Uncovering the Next Generation's Hall of Fame
The 2019 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees
The 2019 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominees were officially announced on Tuesday, October 9th. The induction ceremony will be back in New York on Friday, March 29th. Here are the 15 nominees:
- The Cure
- Def Leppard
- Devo
- Janet Jackson
- John Prine
- Kraftwerk
- LL Cool J
- MC5
- Radiohead
- Rage Against the Machine
- Roxy Music
- Rufus featuring Chaka Khan
- Stevie Nicks
- Todd Rundgren
- The Zombies
Check out some ballot predictions here.
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1333 comments so far (post your own)Makes sense that Depeche Mode got holded back for The Cure. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:17am |
So glad that Todd, Devo, and Roxy Music finally got the love they deserve. Posted by Tinky Winky on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:22am |
garbage Dump Ticket Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:35am |
Outstanding list this year. Even a worst case scenario of 5 inductees will still be an impressive group. Posted by Darren on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:35am |
Since the nominees are finally revealed, here is my final prediction for the Class of 2019 Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:41am |
First class in a long time where all the nominees are worthy, no throwaway nominations like solo Sting or *shudders* the J. Geils Band. Posted by Tinky Winky on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:44am |
@Zuzu If you don't like it, don't vote. Simple. Also stop complaining about it. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:50am |
No Kool & The Gang, no Commodores, no Jethro Tull, no King Crimson, no Foreigner, no Doobie Brothers! Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:52am |
Fauxreigner would've only made this list even lamer... Posted by Demon Seeding on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:56am |
Devo Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 08:58am |
Just another mediocre ballot. Only looking at artists they feel comfortable with, following the Rolling Stone “bias”. Lack of women, ethnic minorities (and it’s somehow WORSE than last year in the cultural and gender diversity department) and they’re continuing to avoid inducting anything really all that recent. Posted by Nicky Joe on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 09:12am |
Garbage dump ticket Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 09:18am |
@Zuzu you already said that. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 09:41am |
10 members of Rufus nominated Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 09:51am |
http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 09:59am |
Pretty decent ballot in my opinion. I'll be rooting for Radiohead, RATM, The Cure, LL Cool J, and either Roxy, Janet, or Kraftwerk. Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:03am |
If I had a ballot: Posted by Gassman on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:06am |
My first ballot I voted for included Def Leppard, Janet Jackson, Kraftwerk, Radiohead, and the Zombies. Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:22am |
Since Tom Morello is on the committee, he'll vote for at least his own band (Rage Against the Machine) and MC5 (as RATM covered "Kick Out the Jams") Posted by Tommy Wimmer on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:23am |
THE 2019 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:25am |
THE 2019 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES Posted by Tinky Winky on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:30am |
THE 2019 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:33am |
It's a really good list this. We finally got the announcement for the 2019 nominees. I will have to decide on who I predict for Inductees. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:45am |
Wow, there are only 15 nominees. Even so, the traditional “prog” artists which might be expected are missing. However, I nevertheless had voted for LL Cool J, Todd Rundgren, Stevie Nicks, The Zombies and Roxy Music. Posted by [email protected] on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 10:50am |
Like many others, I’ll never forget the first time I heard John Prine...it was 5 minutes ago on YouTube. Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:06am |
No Monkees, no Jan & Dean, no Chubby Checker, no Dionne Warwick, no Willie Nelson, no Carole King, no Tina Turner, no Mary Wells, no Marvelettes, no Spinners Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:08am |
I only got 5 right this year on my top 60! 4 if you don't count Chaka Khan solo. Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:25am |
I was wrong on a whole bunch. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:29am |
If John Prine is on the ballot they better give us 6 or 7 inductees this year. Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:34am |
The RRHOF Committee made it easy for me this year. Only 15 Nominees. 1.Def Leppard 2. The Cure 3. Stevie Nicks 4. Radiohead 5. Roxy Music. *6. LL Cool J if they go 6. It's possible my The Zombies Musical Excellence pick still in play. Don't understand this ballot because LL Cool J, Janet Jackson, The Zombies, could still be frozen out. Zuzu talked about John Prine before. On this ballot, I would be surprised if Def Leppard and Stevie Nicks were not inducted. Todd Rundgren give those FRL Regulars a hand for picking him on their Nominees ballot. I'd give this ballot a B. No Bad Company, Procol Harum, Depeche Mode, Judas Priest etc. KING Posted by KING on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:36am |
Disappointed with this list in coordination with the last 8 or 9. Will go into more detail as I get time, but I will be a minority in appreciating the Def Leppard pick. Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:40am |
Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones is pushing for Janet, Todd and Radiohead. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:49am |
Stevie Nicks is the only one on the ballot who has been inducted before. This will be her second induction, and she will become the first female to be a 2-time Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inductee! Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:53am |
Some more thoughts: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:54am |
They might induct Brian Eno twice this year! Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 11:57am |
I knew there was something I forgot to add: people in the media have been making it clear Radiohead is not a fan of the Hall and won't perform if they're inducted. That's what caused them to not be inductees last time. If Radiohead is snubbed a second time, I wonder if The Cure or the Zombies will be in their place! Something I just thought of. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:00pm |
Timothy, Posted by Greg P. on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:01pm |
@Roy, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:02pm |
Robert Hilburn wants John Prine, Stevie Nicks, Kraftwerk, Roxy Music, Radiohead and Rage Against The Machine inducted! Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:03pm |
@Greg P. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:03pm |
Disappointed with this list in coordination with the last 8 or 9. Will go into more detail as I get time, but I will be a minority in appreciating the Def Leppard pick. Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:09pm |
Some preliminary thoughts. Not making a prediction just yet, this could go lots of ways. Two of my snubs finally get nominated for the first time: Roxy Music and Devo. Thst makes me happy. Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:18pm |
@ Tim Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:26pm |
I'm shocked Outkast didn't get a nom. Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:45pm |
Seems like The Zombies are the biggest no-brainer from this crop. They are literally the only classic rock band from the sixties and seventies on the ballot. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:49pm |
By "Leppard doing terribly last time" I was instead refering to today's revelation that Priest had like nobody voting for them last year. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 12:59pm |
Sorry for any typos. On a cheap tablet in Switzerland. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 13:01pm |
This year’s list is rather.....blah. Posted by Mark on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 13:03pm |
Early Influence will be announced later, Mark. Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 13:08pm |
They just need to make an executive decision and induct Kraftwerk. The influence is off the charts, but they never will get enough votes. Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 13:14pm |
Very happy to see The Cure and Kraftwerk on the ballot again. The two biggest snubs IMO. Posted by MichaelEU on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 13:16pm |
Four locks: Posted by Tinky Winky on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 13:20pm |
My predictions Posted by Nicky Joe on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 13:55pm |
The only lock on this list is: Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 13:58pm |
One third of the ballot is crap. Posted by Mo-Ja'al on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 14:49pm |
Well I got nine right: Posted by Zoot Marimba on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 15:13pm |
Well, there you go - something Zuzu and I agree on for a change, and that we are seeming to go against the predominant opinion on: Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 15:23pm |
One of the things bugging me is Stevie Nicks. Yes, she is a talent and her contributions to Fleetwood Mac saved the band in the mid 70s. Yes, "Stand Back" and "Edge of Seventeen" are true rock ballads. However, she is not on the plane of Paul McCartney when it comes to staying relevant. I'm not a fan of multiple inductions just for the sake of inducting them (Ringo Starr a couple years back wasn't merited either IMO), but that slot could have gone to Pat Benatar, Kate Bush, or a myriad of other deserving women who have not yet tasted the recognition they deserve. She did open some doors, but far more with Mac than on her own. This is one candidate that will get a lot of hype that I don't see as worthy over others shunned. Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 15:51pm |
Totally agree on Nicks. She is cool, but not Hallworthy on her solo career. This is irritating when you have someone inducted once, you are supposed ignore that contribution already honored if considering a second induction. Especially true for the ex-Beatles. Since the Beatles were already inducted, they should only been judged on poat-Beatles work for their second induction. Under that criteria, no for Ringo, no for Harrison. Doubtful for Paul, borderline for for John. Under the same argument, no to Stevie Nicks. As much as I love her. Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 16:27pm |
Totally agree on Nicks. She is cool, but not Hallworthy on her solo career. This is irritating when you have someone inducted once, you are supposed ignore that contribution already honored if considering a second induction. Especially true for the ex-Beatles. Since the Beatles were already inducted, they should only been judged on poat-Beatles work for their second induction. Under that criteria, no for Ringo, no for Harrison. Doubtful for Paul, borderline for for John. Under the same argument, no to Stevie Nicks. As much as I love her. Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 16:27pm |
I wonder if Irving Azoff made the nomination happened for Stevie Nicks like he did for Bon Jovi; I pretty much see him as the hidden guy on the Nom Com. Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 16:54pm |
On Stevie Nicks: I'm happy to see Stevie Nicks will be inducted twice soon. She's influenced many singer/songwriter types for 35+ years. Nicks has starred in 2 of the best rock duets in the last 50 years. Stop Dragging My Heart Around with Tom Petty and Leather & Lace with Don Henley. Like Kevin Bacon, you probably could link Stevie Nicks to just about every major artist through recording or touring with that artist in a few moves. Another thing on Stevie. She lost some important music friends in Tom Petty and my guess she knew Glenn Frey Eagles too. Probably could sing a Tom Petty song or give some good stories. Posted by KING on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 17:31pm |
STEVIE NICKS LIKELY VOTERS FOR HER INDUCTION: The Eagles, The Heartbreakers, Fleetwood Mac (That's 17 votes), Jackson Browne, Linda Ronstadt, Madonna, Heart, Rod Stewart, etc. I'm probably forgetting some other possible voters. KING Posted by KING on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 18:13pm |
My thoughts on this year's nominees: Posted by richie on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 18:25pm |
I see a lot of people writing off RATM. Are they forgetting that not only is Tom Morello a member of the nominating committee, but also has extensive ties to classic rock figures (i.e. Bruce Springsteen) and hip-hop figures alike (many of whom may be more inclined to vote than the grumpy old rockish anyway). Posted by Tinky Winky on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 18:30pm |
@Tinky Winky Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 19:07pm |
Am I the only one who’s honestly a little shocked at Devo getting a nomination? I mean to most of the general population they are nothing but a cheesy 80s one-hit wonder. Also I’m a bit surprised that Stevie Nicks is doing so well, I didn’t know she had so many supporters. Rooting for Janet & The Cure Posted by Christian on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 20:12pm |
I'm shocked about Devo too. I guess the Rock Hall needed a WTF nominee and Devo fit that. Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 20:35pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 20:43pm |
John Prine. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Say those 2 phrases quickly. LOL Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 20:44pm |
@Follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 21:13pm |
@Christian, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 21:24pm |
Observations: Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 21:25pm |
People seem to forget whose votes actually count. I do not think that the fan vote will show who gets inducted this year. Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 21:37pm |
Chuck Yarbrough of Cleveland.com has Todd and Stevie as shoo-ins (or no-brainers), Janet to get inducted for popularity reasons (and it's possible since the Induct Janet site is very big), Def Leppard and Kraftwerk. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 21:43pm |
When I was at the Hall this summer, Stevie Nicks led the fan suggestion ballot at the Hall of Fame itself (not the official fan ballot, but one where you can choose from just about any eligible act in history) by a wide margin. I am sure that many of those who voted for her are casual visitors who might not even know that Fleetwood Mac is in as a group. But she clearly has a strong fan base. Posted by James K. on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 21:58pm |
^ I think Stevie has more fans than you think, James lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 22:04pm |
Stevie has fans of Fleetwood Mac primarily. I can literally name 10 other women I'd rather see be the first female Clyde McPhatter clubber than Stevie Nicks. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 22:53pm |
@Zuzu OK, if YOU could pick the 15 nominees for a hypothetical 2019 vote, who would it be? Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 22:55pm |
I wonder if there will be an Aretha tribute at the ceremony (too far ahead, I know) and who would perform. Hopefully Annie Lennox will be one of them, so she can get back on the ballot next year Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 22:59pm |
Do they? Then why do the voters reject them? Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 23:04pm |
@Zuzu Also also, David Bowie, Depeche Mode, Gary Numan, Joy Division, New Order, , Bjork, The Cars, Eurythmics, Devo (also deserves to get in), Talking Heads, and Duran Duran have cited Kraftwerk as a major influence. Bowie's song "V-2 Schneider" was inspired by them. Joy Division inspired numerous new wave, goth, and eventually, grunge and nu-metal. They have ton on R&R. People just don't appreciate their music and/or probably inpatient to stick through their songs. They're just like Chubby Checker. Underrated, but important. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 23:11pm |
@Zuzu type in "kraftwerk beatles" in Google, you will be surprised. People like radio-friendly fluff, that's why Def Leppard is getting in. If it was up to ME, Bon Jovi would get kicked out of the Hall. He's not influential!! ABBA isn't influential. Dire Straits just got in because of Money For Nothing. N.W.A should have never been considered to get in. I don't even know who Dave Clark Five is. Madonna is'nt rock. But why did they get in?? Because they're soft. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 23:19pm |
No, you don't get it, Zuzu thinks Lionel Richie and Jimmy Buffett are rock and roll legends and should get in, guys. He's totally believable. I mean, Kraftwerk, who cares about those guys? It's all about soft rock ballads and margaritas! [/sarcasm] Lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 23:46pm |
Thoughts and opinions on this year's crop: Posted by Ian on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 23:58pm |
I know two of the ten women Phillip would rather see as Clyde McPhatter Club members are Tina Turner w/out Ike and Carole King as a performer, but the other 8 will have to wait. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 02:04am |
Well I got nine right: Posted by Zoot Marimba on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 02:35am |
Michael Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 06:54am |
For the record, we inducted Devo in 2010 into our Hall. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 06:57am |
I will share some more thoughts. I am disappointed that Jethro Tull were NOT nominated. I guess they may go through what the Moody Blues went thru for a couple years. I should day It wont be as long as that. We will NOT wait another 20 Years for a J Tull nomination. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 08:11am |
@Zuzu are you serious? OK, Let me copy and paste some words in here... Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 09:45am |
Michael Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 10:05am |
By the way, what the heck is garage rock. It sure as hell was not happening in the 60s. We had garage Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 10:21am |
@Zuzu You did not answer my question. Is Ramones and Metallica not rock? Disco is not rock and never will be considered rock. Rufus/Chaka Khan isn't rock, they're funk, so they should'nt even be in. Listen, just because your "60" dosen't mean you automatically assume that all music after the 70's as bad. The 70's had some pretty terrible music, like disco. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 10:22am |
@Zuzu here's some garage rock bands: The White Stripes, The Strokes, The Stooges, MC5, Garage also lend into punk and grunge, but you don't care about Nirvana or Dead Kennedys so ignore this part. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 10:27am |
I want to know how the hell the ramones got in. Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 10:38am |
What about Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 10:52am |
@Zuzu OK, just because you're an old person dosen't mean that you can make up nonsense, and YOU don't get called on it, like you saying that punk isn't rock. Ramones got in because they're extremely influential. Besides they were in since 2002, why is it now an issue? Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 10:55am |
@Zuzu out of all the people in your list, I only see Pet Benatar deserving in the Rock Hall Of Fame Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 10:57am |
Michael Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 11:22am |
Michael, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 11:40am |
I'm having a very hard time not outright laughing at some of the comments spewed about how metal and punk and prog are not rock. The RRHOF is what it is. It will be criticized by everyone for something, but it has decided that almost every genre, which HAS evolved from old rock and roll, belongs in the Hall of Fame. I really don't see how everything must rest on teeny bop and AM rock from the 60s and 70s in lieu of Iron Maiden or Jethro Tull. Frankly, I don't know what Zuzu's motive is other than to spew doom and gloom because her fan-centric view of what constitutes good music to her is the only thing she feels belongs in the HOF. There are a million casual uninformed people out there who sound the same way. On this message board, I would expect there to be some give and take about stuff, not outright "my way or the highway" rhetoric. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 11:46am |
Ben you are not a Boomer. you are gen x. You think Journey is an 80s band despite the fact that they formed in the early 70s. This is why you say prog is rock but you are wrong. To start with some of the bands that are called prog were in the rock section. The only bands that I remember being in the prog section were King Crimson, Genesis and Kansas. Kansas crossed over with Point of No Return. Prog did not dominate the 70s. Rock did and it was not hard rock and it was not the Brits. Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 11:54am |
K-Dawg calling metal and punk is not only laughable but revisionist history. It is getting old. The hall is getting called on who they are trying to put in by the way. Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 12:05pm |
62 Nominees Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 12:12pm |
I also Can understand Old Metal as a genre. I am NOT a huge Metal fan. The Metal I do like is 1972-1990. So we all know thats the Old era of Metal. I am actually sorry that Judas Priest was NOT nominated again. The heaviest band nominated is Def Leppard. I like the Lep better anyway personally. Long ago in the 80s I saw some Metal shows. I saw Twisted Sister and Ratt. Those wouldnt fit badly in the Hall. There is also the Scorpions. I never saw them in concert but they are deserving. I am NOT a Big Metal guy. I know and like some. 2 others worth mentioning are Queensryche and Whitesnake. I am NOT running home for Old 80s Metal. Inam still playing music tributes to my Dad from the 1940s and 50s which is a whole other ballpark. See ya later. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 12:13pm |
One could argue Rage is harder, but they are steeped in so many genres, it is a crapshoot. Def Leppard is definitely the most traditional heavy band that would suit the "Rock Rules" 80s hair guy though ;) I agree with your sentiment that you can't pigeonhole anything though, Ben. Enjoy your dad's oldies Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 12:29pm |
Ben Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 12:33pm |
My predictions: Posted by Evan on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 12:58pm |
“I'm having a very hard time not outright laughing at some of the comments spewed about how metal and punk and prog are not rock.” Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 13:18pm |
67 Nominees Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 13:19pm |
Timothy Posted by KING on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 14:20pm |
I am staying clear of any controversial talk. I was shopping at record stores in 1978,1979. I have lived in New York my whole life. There was NO special prog section here in New York. So Emerson, Lake and Palmer was filed alphabetically after the Eagles. That just did NOT happen in New York. I shopped at Record World in Rego Park, NY a lot. Those Prog comments were meant for Enig. I am Gen X person. But I like a lot of Baby Boomer acts. The earliest acts I love are the Beatles,Rolling Stones,the Who,Bob Dylan and Simon & Garfunkel. There is alll kinds of Rock that dominated the 1970s. Yes and Emerson,Lake and Palmer were prevelant but also for sure acts like the Grateful Dead,the Allman Brothers Band and Chicago. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 14:58pm |
King, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 15:18pm |
Ben, Posted by richie on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 15:33pm |
@Zuzu Jimmy Buffett? Please tell me you're joking. He's not influential. Tell me what qualifies him for Rock and Roll, because he dosen't fit in it. Also, what's the REO test?? I want to fill that one out. Also also, who's REO Speedwagon. Instead of insulting me, how about actually telling me some valid information about them and why I should think they should be in the Hall Of Fame. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 15:38pm |
Anyone who thinks that the way a particular record store in the 70s divvied up their inventory of records as being the arbitrator on what is and is not 'rock' is completely insane, IMO. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 15:50pm |
A Halloween-themed class out of these 15: Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 16:08pm |
@Paul in KY If anything, SHE's a part of "gen waa i want it now." She keeps on complaining about how sacred REO Speedwagon and Jimmy Buffett isn't in. Hypocrisy. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 16:25pm |
Ben Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 18:08pm |
Paul Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 18:33pm |
@Zuzu Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 18:41pm |
A decent ballot. Janet as one of the biggest R&B stars of the 80's-90's should be a safe bet as should Radiohead, sadly the latter may see one of the other "alt" nominations (The Cure, Kraftwerk) passed up which would be a shame as both are massively deserving and in Kraftwerk's case, long overdue. Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 18:44pm |
Michael Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 18:58pm |
@Zuzu for Jimmy Buffett, I only saw that Toby Keith, Garth Brooks, and Blake Shelton was inspired by him. I actually saw a lot of controversy about him. Apparently he was busted a couple of times for drugs. For REO Speedwagon, I saw absolutely nothing, i guess their one of those bands that has a couple of good songs, like Devo. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 19:19pm |
Alright everyrtbody. Here it is my predictions for the 2019 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 19:31pm |
Ben, Posted by richie on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 19:45pm |
I wasn't only one to notice that Jimmy Buffett has been getting attention lately. Did you know that last year Huey Lewis opened for him. Look also at who he is connected to. Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 20:18pm |
I come here for the entertainment. Posted by Classic Rock on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 20:58pm |
I gotta admit, I'm on the fence about whether or not to predict John Prine. He's the type of singer/songwriter the Hall loves to induct... but he's even more obscure than Laura Nyro. He's more of a insider secret than Los Lobos or Big Star. Plus, the singer/songwriters that have been inducted mostly have at least that one song that they are instantly linked to and people identify them by. James Taylor, "Fire And Rain;" Cat Stevens, "Peace Train;" Randy Newman, either "Short People" or "I Love L.A.;" Joni Mitchell, "Big Yellow Taxi;" Joan Baez, "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down;" Leonard Cohen, "Hallelujah." John Prine, ...??? Right now, I'm thinking he's gonna be another Laura Nyro: if they keep at it, he'll get in around the third nomination, but probably not the first. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 21:23pm |
Stevie Nicks' solo nomination is not necessarily surprising, but certainly unnecessary. The massive fan poll support for her is frustrating as well, I wonder how many of those are confusing her stellar work with Fleetwood Mac (which is already inducted) with her solo works. Posted by Paul K. on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 21:36pm |
Phillip, it's the 'Paradise' song. Other artists & bluegrass/country fans also love it. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 21:37pm |
Michael, I just wouldn't engage her. Waste of time. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 21:38pm |
Okay Paul, I binged on John yesterday on Spotify, but I don't remember if I heard that one. My favorites were about the American flag decal and Let's Talk Dirty In Hawaiian. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 22:02pm |
Paul Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 22:17pm |
John Prine is a good choice as a nominee and deserves induction. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 22:40pm |
I have to say this is one of the more interesting mixed group of candidates in a while. You have 3 acts that should have already been inducted. LL Cool J, MC5, and Kraftwerk. And then a punch of acts insuring yet again this will not be the year for them. Not because they are better qualified but instead because of their weight as names on the ballot. Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/10/2018 @ 23:34pm |
First of all, I have to say I love this site, and Thanks to All who make it happen. Now, for the nominees, I believe Judas Priest should go in before Def Lepperd, but I understand that bands don't usually get nominated 2 years in arrow. So Def Lepp gets in for being the most "Rock" band, albiet commercial, in the list, riding their once huge popularity blast. Next I like Roxy Music for their innovative and influential creativity, where so many bands who came after were inspired by them. Throw Kraftwerk in there for basically the same reasoning, and pretty much creating and fulfilling an entire new genre of experimental, electro- pop music. So Kraftwerk, Yes. Myself, I prefer Tangerine Dream and Shadowfax(new age?). I love that Devo gets nominated, but still a little early for them. How about a Gary Numan nomination? He is still putting out great and creative work. 3 in, afew to go. Much as I hate to declare, but I feel Janet Jackson gets in, to satisfy the female, R&B aspect and diversity of artists, which happens every year. Plus she was just too hugely popular. Personally, I think Pat Benatar should already be in, before Joan Jett, Janet J. or Stevie Nicks. Stevie is Great, absolutely, and deserving, but not before Pat. Her dominance in the Rock world of women should not be denied. Maybe ask Ann and Nancy on Pat's continuing snub. Does anybody think it may be because of her band not being popular? Pat is not a solo artist.. So #4 for 2019 goes to Janet Jackson. As much as I like The Cure, they have a shot, but I think The Smiths should probably go in before them, and both bands should go in before Radiohead. John Prine has certainly put out some excellent music, and his first album is fantastic and timeless, but I don't know. So, I am going out on a limb and going really old school for The Zombies at #5. I know they were a major impact at the time and put out some great and groundbreaking music, plus being highly influential. So #5 for The Zombies, although my favorite pick from that time period would be Steppenwolf, I believe they got nominated last year. Now being The Zombies are not a major, commercially favorable act, this would warrant a 6th entry. It is a bit early for Rage, and I can't go Stevie, Radiohead, The Cure, Devo, for previous reasons stated. So I am going to throw out there the MC5, for the Raw and raucous rage of the revolutionary rock spectacle that they were. The intensity broke ground for punk and hardcore. So either MC5 at #6, or if not them, maybe fan favorite, The Cure, gets in, as they are loved by many, and are well deserving. So, bending the rules here a little, but I am predicting 6 total. Def Lepperd, Roxy Music, Kraftwerk, The Zombies, MC5, Janet Jackson, and for the wild card, maybe The Cure, or extreme long shot and personal favorite, DEVO.. Posted by Will N. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 01:36am |
This is the toughest ballot for me to nail down in quite a few years. Stevie Nicks is the only solid No for me. It's going to be fun watching the least credible nominee win the ridiculous fan vote this year. Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 01:55am |
Rock Hall CEO Greg Harris and His Minions are not even TRYING to give the ILLUSION that they want R&B Artists in the Hall. Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 03:19am |
Bill G, Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 03:35am |
Phillip, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 04:01am |
Classic Rock, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 04:02am |
"Bill G, Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 04:16am |
Ian, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 04:35am |
Very excited to see Devo nominated. Also I know he was probably never going to be included but it would have been nice to have Josh Freese included as a member for induction. I mean he's been Devo's drummer for the last 12 years but on top of that just consider every other band he's been a part of or done session work for. Posted by Dan on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 07:29am |
My predictions for this year's inductees: Posted by richie on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 11:27am |
richie, Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 12:26pm |
Bill G., Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 13:11pm |
I'm predicting: Posted by Shrek on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 13:18pm |
It seems that nearly everyone is in agreement on Stevie Nick's here. That will make her the first female member of the currently all male Clyde McPhatter club. What other female acts would everyone consider potential future members? It does not have to be in the next few classes, but artists that do deserve a look. Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 13:57pm |
https://people.com/tv/les-moonves-tried-to-destroy-janet-jackson-career-super-bowl-2004-report/ Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 14:23pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsTQtGSIUgk Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 14:49pm |
Good posts by the FRL Regulars! Here's an early KING Top 6 plus Todd Rundgren Musical Excellence. Posted by KING on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 14:50pm |
Bill shame on you Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 15:53pm |
https://www.rockhall.com/fanvote/standings Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 15:58pm |
Bill, Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 17:27pm |
Bill shame on you Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 17:38pm |
Oh and another thing.... Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 17:45pm |
Bill G., Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 18:06pm |
War belongs more than Styx or REO Speedwagon Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 19:07pm |
Zuzu: Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 19:20pm |
This ballot is laughable with exception of 1 or 2, particularly because multiple artists are getting a 2nd, 3rd, EVEN 4th nomination, yet an extremely musically talented group like ELP is ignored again?? Even with the massive contributions to rock music that Keith Emerson made?? Most of these artists would not even be able to play remotely as good as Keith but they are nominees??? And almost as funny about this list is that one member of a nominated band is also a nom comm member?? That's blatantly & totally egregious!!! HOF -- you ARE a joke pulling this kind of crap!!!! Posted by ELP fan on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 19:45pm |
It's obvious with Zuzu that she's a troll and her only intent to cause distance and irritation and throw everybody off. Maybe if we don't feed the troll, she'll go away, we already fed her too many leftovers. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 20:01pm |
Bill Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 21:11pm |
ELP Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 21:16pm |
Devo Posted by Michael on Thursday, 10/11/2018 @ 22:13pm |
Bill Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 01:15am |
My predictions for the final inductees are as follows: Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 01:48am |
When I had first seen this list of nominees, my question had been- Where is the real list and who substituted the real list for this, at the last moment? Or who cut the original list by 9 nominees? If I was Jann, I would be absolutely furious! In my honest opinion, this is the worst list of nominees that the Rock Hall Nominating Committee has put together in at least 4 years. It’s really difficult to be passionate about most of the artists on this list. Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 02:09am |
Bill Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 05:25am |
https://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_hall-of-fame-nom-2019.html Posted by Roy on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 07:13am |
Hi Enig! I actually like this list. Maybe I have been assimilated in the hive too :) Could have used more women and an additional R&B act, but I don’t think a truly bad class of inductees can be created from this list. I have 3 out of your top 5 in my personal top 5. Go Roxy Music! Nicks is at the bottom of my list, though. I don’t think her solo work is HOF worthy. But even if she would get in (and it looks like that will be realistic), I wouldn’t be bummed out. Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 07:27am |
This is a more difficult list of nominees to choose from. As far as Roxy Music I agree with richie that they're going to be hurt by the fact that they were more popular overseas in Britain and the rest of Europe than they were in America,and as shown with the Eurythmics being loved doesn't guarantee an induction. This goes back to how the Voting Body is right now. So my list was the first draft. Posted by Ben on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 08:12am |
When the nominees were first announced, my gut reaction was that the list was underwhelming. But I have to say, as the days have passed, I find this list more and more exciting. There were a handful of artists that I was only peripherally familiar with, so it's been exciting to dig into those catalogs and discover some great music. I agree that any combination of 5 will make a good induction class. My daily votes on the Rock Hall site are for the following: Posted by Greg P. on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 09:48am |
Greg P., Posted by Ben on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 11:37am |
It's funny. Pretty much every thoughtful article or post that I have read about this year's crop say the same things about Stevie Nicks: Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 13:25pm |
Now I want to say I am NOT picking Radiohead at alll this time. I am NOT a fan and yet I predicted them for the 2018 class. I really dont know much about them and didnt Care for the Music of theirs I checked out on You Tube last year. Then they gave that statement in which they snubbed the Hall. And naturally they didnt get enough Votes. So now its this Year. I am not picking them again. Posted by Ben on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 13:38pm |
Ben, Posted by richie on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 14:15pm |
Now, I will rank the nominees in order from my least favorite to most favorite: Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 14:17pm |
Richie, John Prine is beloved by many artists. He's supposed to be a pretty cool guy to hang out with, etc. They certainly respect his song catalog. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 14:44pm |
An interesting group this year. Some thoughts: Posted by Steve Z on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 14:50pm |
Paul in KY, Posted by richie on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 14:53pm |
Richie, I don't think he deserves induction either & I really like him, have seen him perform, etc. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 15:12pm |
The_Claw, Posted by richie on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 16:55pm |
I heard that Joe Walsh's reaction to this years list was that he held his nose. Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 17:32pm |
I think some people who are in the Hall should loose their rights to a ballot if they haven't voted in a long enough time. I doubt anyone who got in the hall in the 80's still votes. Posted by Follower on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 17:51pm |
Hi Richie, this early in the game my predictions switch from day to day. I can see Stevie Nicks winning the fan ballot, and until now the winner of the fan ballot always got inducted, so that makes her the only one I am truly certain of. John Prine seems like a guy with a lot of respect among his peers, so he has a decent shot. Same with The Zombies: both Colin Blunstone and Rod Argent are well-respected musicians, and there are no comparable acts on the ballot. They could get the nod as well. Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 18:59pm |
Just for fun, here's every artist with at least one diamond album (sold 10 million copies) not in the hall. NOE stands for not old enough. Posted by Follower on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 19:33pm |
Just for fun, here's every artist with at least one diamond album (sold 10 million copies) not in the hall. NOE stands for not old enough. Posted by Follower on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 19:45pm |
Oops, Accidentally said Creed twice. Creed are NOE. Posted by Follower on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 19:47pm |
Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 20:18pm |
Well, I certainly agree with Enigmaticus that it's a critic-oriented ballot and the reason for that is pretty obvious. The NomCom must be well aware of the backlash from its all-classic rock radio classes and was trying to force the Voting Committee to pick other sorts of acts by not nominating artists who get much classic rock airplay. Posted by Sean on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 21:05pm |
Zuzu, Posted by Follower on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 21:24pm |
Critics Ticket!!!! How? Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 21:28pm |
People need to stop sleeping on The Cure possibly getting in. They're doing well on the fan vote and they got a lot of supporters. I also think Radiohead's continued apathy as opposed to Def Leppard's 180 degree turn to being optimistic of their chances of getting in is why Radiohead won't get in. Radiohead is considered a safe bet but please believe they probably won't get in. I don't think the Hall will take kindly to artists who got in only to spit on it. Look at how the Sex Pistols responded to it and look how they treated Dire Straits. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 21:36pm |
@Follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 21:38pm |
Follower, Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 21:42pm |
Little Timmy Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 21:52pm |
The NomCom has a lot of problems, but I think getting rid of the voting privlages for the inductees is a good thing because Flavor Flav doesn't care about The Zombies and Art Rupe, who is 101, probably doesn't vote anyway. He wouldn't look into Rage Against the Machine anyway. Posted by Follower on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 22:21pm |
After a certain amount of time not voting, of course. If only the Hall told us when they last voted. Posted by Follower on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 22:26pm |
Good grief. Why are some people just trying to egg on arguments and predict doom and gloom to the nom com? Joe Walsh is one person, and he has been eccentric and outspoken his entire post-80s Eagles life. What he says is his opinion and in no way necessarily means it is what anyone else is thinking that has any pull. I think the classic rock bend is affecting other genres, and it probably is going to shift. The Zombies, though talented, even being considered right now is proof that the old guard needs to start considering new blood. There are other acts in the 70s and elsewhere that need to go in unquestionably, but the time for recognizing every single 50s and 60s band that had even the most passing influence is coming to an end. Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 22:35pm |
Zuzu, Posted by Classic Rock on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 22:36pm |
Oh! I know some of the answers to that one, Classic Rock! Posted by Philip on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 23:09pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Philip on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 23:16pm |
I'm curious who Donovan, John Mellencamp, and Ronnie Spector would vote for on these 15 artists. Zuzu, I'm wondering which 3 Chicago area artists do you feel are the most deserving of the RRHOF? There are so many good artists from Chicago or moved to Chicago for awhile. I think Styx deserves more consideration with all the platinum albums they collected and a platter of great hits. Posted by KING on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 00:07am |
KING, Posted by Philip on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 01:21am |
K-Dawg. Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 06:14am |
"I just wish we could get larger classes out of it." - Philip Posted by Steve Z on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 09:27am |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 10:56am |
Okay, unlike those individuals on the “Who Cares About The Rock Hall” podcast, I definitely do not like this list. Nor, do many of my colleagues and peers which have seen it. The problem with critics is primarily that they are impressed by artists who are ephemeral. There are undoubtedly several ephemeral artists on this list. On the other hand, I prefer artists who have longevity, instead of those whose work only includes a few noteworthy albums. With that being said, I have been voting for: Stevie Nicks, Roxy Music, The Zombies, Todd Rundgren and one other different artist who is not Janet Jackson, MC5, Def Leppard, nor Radiohead. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 11:47am |
Steve Z Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 12:03pm |
Phillip, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 12:15pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 12:19pm |
Also, I don't mean to egg on with that troll but is she a Donald Trump voter? LOL Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 12:21pm |
Dezmond, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 12:27pm |
Little Timmy Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 12:30pm |
The Zombies are good, there's no denying. But it's like nominating Velvet Revolver after GnR. You're scraping the bread crumbs to get every morsel of a genre. Personally, I think Herman's Hermits, who never attained superstar status, would be a better Brit Invasion band to go in than the 2 hit wonder Zombies, but again, it's just my opinion. lol Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 13:05pm |
The Rock Hall nominating committee is playing some kind of game I think. They won't nominate the Monkees until The Zombies are inducted. The Monkees will be their replacement on the ballot. They are playing an even worse game with Kool & The Gang and the Commodores. They won't nominate them until The Spinners, The Meters, War, Rufus, and the JB's are inducted, and that's just wrong! Kool & The Gang and the Commodores would get inducted on the first try. I don't know how much racism has to do with it. Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 14:10pm |
What makes you think the Monkees will EVER get nominated? Posted by KXB on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 14:19pm |
Motley Crue will go in next after Leppard. They are trying to slowly put the hair bands in. However, if Poison ever gets nommed, whoever makes it should have their voting rights taken away permanently. Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 14:28pm |
As someone who loves the Monkees, I don't think they stand a chance getting even nominated! Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 14:38pm |
@K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 14:40pm |
K-Dawg Posted by Nicky Joe on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 14:56pm |
I have to say that I am pretty disappointed with this list of nominees. No Pat Benatar, Spinners, Jethro Tull, or Guess Who. It is good to see Def Leppard nominated however. Stevie Nicks is already in with Fleetwood Mac.I don't agree with her making it in solo when so many other acts are completely snubbed, although she is more deserving than Ringo Starr. Posted by MarkTesla on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 15:32pm |
I have to say that I am pretty disappointed with this list of nominees. No Pat Benatar, Spinners, Jethro Tull, or Guess Who. It is good to see Def Leppard nominated however. Stevie Nicks is already in with Fleetwood Mac.I don't agree with her making it in solo when so many other acts are completely snubbed, although she is more deserving than Ringo Starr. Posted by MarkTesla on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 15:33pm |
Is Devo truly worthy of induction to the Hall of Fame? I personally think not. At least the J Geils Band wasn't nominated again. LL Cool J will probably get in. Hopefully Def Leppard. The Cure-maybe in a few years. Same with Radiohead. Posted by MarkTesla on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 15:41pm |
Sorry Nicky Joe, MOST of those acts you mentioned aren't EVER getting nominated/inducted go matter what! Posted by KXB on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 16:41pm |
FAN BALLOT UPDATE Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 16:46pm |
So far, in the history of the fan ballot, only two artists-Nine Inch Nails and Judas Priest-haven't been inducted. What are the chances the current top 5 of Stevie Nicks, Def Leppard, The Cure, Todd Rudgren, and The Zombies might give us a third? Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 17:18pm |
I meant to say of artists who placed in the Top 5. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 17:20pm |
I do have to say, as a person not enjoying the Nick's nomination on this ballot, I think she is getting wrongly portrayed as unworthy of induction. I always try and look at already inducted acts, and the least deserving set the bar for induction. In that case her solo work and longevity,, not to mention popularity, far outshine many already enshrined. Her influence doesn't just stop outside of Fleetwood Mac's discography. Not to mention her attention to detail in songwriting, production, and choice of collaborators (and I am not just talking about duet partners). I think it is a bit unfair to relegate her to this shoo in status without giving credit to why she is undoubtedly a stand out act. It takes quite the star to claw out from under a band as big as Fleetwood Mac. Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 17:55pm |
"The Rock Hall nominating committee is playing some kind of game I think. They won't nominate the Monkees until The Zombies are inducted. The Monkees will be their replacement on the ballot. They are playing an even worse game with Kool & The Gang and the Commodores. They won't nominate them until The Spinners, The Meters, War, Rufus, and the JB's are inducted, and that's just wrong! Kool & The Gang and the Commodores would get inducted on the first try. I don't know how much racism has to do with it." Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 18:06pm |
Remember when I said that the LAST R&B GROUP inducted was LITTLE ANTHONY & THE IMPERIALS.....and THAT was NINE YEARS AGO ?? * Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 18:14pm |
So when was the last time a country artist was nominated and inducted? Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 19:01pm |
Johnny Cash? In like 1989? Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 19:50pm |
Zuzu, Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 20:09pm |
K-Sawg Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 20:10pm |
What does it matter if it's a white woman, a black woman, a purple woman, or a polka-dotted woman? Point is, as has been established, women are grossly underrepresented in the hall. Janet Jackson isn't everyone's taste, but she deserves to be in IMO. Same with Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, maybe even Jennifer Lopez someday. Lil Kim is probably the first rap female artist to deserve induction (I believe she becomes eligible next year) Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 20:19pm |
Chris Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 20:22pm |
K-Dawg Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 20:32pm |
Bill Withers was nominated and inducted in 2015. Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 20:44pm |
And for the record, I've previously stated Pat Benatar and Kate Bush belong. This is an addendum. Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 20:49pm |
Def Leppard are ahead of Stevie Nicks right now. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 20:59pm |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 21:02pm |
@Follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:02pm |
@MarkTesla, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:14pm |
Now who wrote that wiki entry. Look at what the early rock and rollers say. Only country and blues are brought up. Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:16pm |
Go listen to Move It On Over then Listen to Rock Around the Clock Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:28pm |
@Timothy Pernell Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:31pm |
Enig, to answer your question posted to me: I'm not 100% certain when. I take my time over the course of the nomination season. First, I post a reaction, then I do merits, then taste, then predictions. That's the usual pattern. Right now, I'm taking time to research the artists a bit more fully, binge-listening to each of them in turn, even ones that I think I'm pretty familiar with. Posted by Philip on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:38pm |
@Follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:40pm |
@Follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:41pm |
@Follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:42pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:45pm |
A list of bands that should've been nominated: Posted by Michael on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:48pm |
Thoughts? Posted by Michael on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:48pm |
@Timothy Pernell Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:49pm |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:55pm |
Michael, Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/13/2018 @ 23:59pm |
Its not a ballot, just a list of bands that haven't been nominated this year. Or maybe it IS a ballot, and i'm too dumb to notice lol Posted by Michael on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 00:03am |
@Follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 00:25am |
@richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 00:29am |
If things keep going one way with someone stirring drama. I may just hope for the 5-6 go in that irritates this person the most Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 00:34am |
K-Dawg, Posted by Philip on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 00:40am |
Kraftwerk and Devo on the same ballot, how do you feel about that? Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 01:58am |
I'm a little disappointed in the list. I've said that before. It skips too many genres and definitely has provoked much thought and diverse opinions here. That being said, if Def Leppard, Kraftwerk and the Cure go in, I'd be a little satisfied. Todd Rundgren should also be considered, as it is more to get him out of the way since he should've been in years ago. Janet Jackson is important to me, as she is someone who finally will get some of the songbirds of the 80s and 90s rolling since the Hall has decided to ignore the powerful voices that propelled Billboard beyond Madonna. If it's some combination of the Zombies or Stevie Nicks going in, I am going to be disappointed in the committee for following a path that doesn't really let the rest of the deserving candidates have much of a chance for enshrinement in the near future. I love Michael's list, but if the nomcom had been inducting 6-7 a year instead of the current 5, we might have some, if not most of these groups in now. It is frustrating, but it's par for the course. I know I really haven't said anything that hasn't already been covered, but it's good to rehash. Have a great night all Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 02:43am |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 03:35am |
Michael- Posted by EDS on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 07:21am |
Philip, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 07:58am |
Hey Ben, Posted by Philip on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 09:21am |
Now let’s take some time to see the ballot through somebody who belongs to either the Baby Boomer generation, or Generation Jones. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 10:52am |
Re: The 2019 Rock Hall Nominees List: Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 11:04am |
Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 11:06am |
Enig, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 11:41am |
I'm not going to bother with a prediction this year! It's complicated! Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 11:41am |
Timothy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 13:47pm |
Enig, you just listed 5 out of their 8 albums as being essential. I think that's a pretty decent run. Posted by Greg P. on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 14:37pm |
Depeche Mode was influenced by Kraftwerk. Nine Inch Nails was influenced by Depeche Mode. Linkin Park was influenced by Nine Inch Nails. Twenty One Pilots was influenced by Linkin Park Posted by Michael on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 17:04pm |
Both Roxy Music and Kraftwerk are pretty influential. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 17:08pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 19:39pm |
"Expect primarily those of Gen X and The Millenials to be even remotely interested in this ballot." -Enig Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 19:42pm |
Ben, Posted by richie on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 20:03pm |
Zuzu, Posted by Chris F. on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 20:06pm |
Timothy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 20:32pm |
Chris F., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 20:51pm |
Holy shit, this is a ballot that just might resuscitate my interest in the RNRHOS! I'm being cautiously optimistic here, as past trends show how the nominating committee has made unforgivable blunders. My personal take on this year's ballot Posted by Zach on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 20:52pm |
Timothy, Posted by MarkTesla on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 20:57pm |
Oh, and if the Hall wants my attention/respect back, they need to induct at least 3 of the following as Early Influences (a category in dire need of some additions who should have been included 30 years ago): Posted by Zach on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 21:06pm |
DarinRG, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 21:18pm |
Great discussion Ben and Zach. I think it's an interesting ballot and it would be difficult who the Final 5 or 6 Inductees will be. I think Def Leppard and Stevie Nicks are strong bets but after that I wouldn't bet my house or savings account. Posted by KING on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 21:48pm |
King Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 23:07pm |
The Beatles farting got more interest. Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 23:14pm |
While I don't agree with her incoherent rants, I do agree that the idea of pushing all those bands in just to put them in would be a grave mistake. This ballot should serve best to take care of a couple of pioneering acts that both recognize previously unacknowledged genres (electronic and new wave), and put in a talented 70s songwriter and a popular rock band who both qualifies as genuine 80s metal and hair/arena rock. Oh, and Janet. That being said, it's a significant shift because we're trying to open the door to get more modern, with the 80s and 90s being on the horizon. Prog will get its due; so will more classic 70s and 80s bands. We need to resist the temptation to take some favorite from the nomcom's personal stash that is mediocre in retrospect (I'm talking to you J Geils Band). It's not my favorite ballot, but it's not the worst I've ever seen. A ballot like King proposes, no offense sir, would do far more damage to the RRHOF than any induction of a seemingly undeserving act would. Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 00:40am |
To clarify, I'm talking about this 2018/19 ballot to induct the likes of Kraftwerk, the Cure, or Roxy Music, and treat the 2020 noms the typical way, deserving bands, not retreads because the nomcom wants its pets to sip the champagne Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 00:52am |
K-DAWG Posted by KING on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 01:07am |
I have seen many people post on this site their support for acts like Kate Bush and Roxy Music making the Hall of Fame. But I feel these artists did not make enough of an impact in America to warrant induction. Groups such as The Who, Led Zeppelin, and Elton John were successful and influential here as well in Britain and other countries. If Bush and Roxy were inducted, why not Stereophonics and Blur? Why not Slade and Status Quo? Why not Cliff Richard and Robbie Williams? Or Fremch superstar Johnny Halliday? Or Latin American giant Luis Miguel? Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 01:10am |
So, my point is that for a Hall whose voters are mostly American, they must judge the importance and influence that artists have had in this country to have any relevance, in my humble opinion. Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 01:15am |
And yes, I know Roxy Music had a big hit in America with "Love Is The Drug", but still overall, not a Hall of Fame act. Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 01:22am |
Michael, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 01:45am |
Duran Duran, Eurythmics, and the Smiths will all eventually make the Hall of Fame. Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 01:52am |
KING, that's kind of what we have already. It's a 60-40 split, which is pretty common to how it goes, and most years, the first time nominees still end up comprising most of the inductees. I still say bigger classes are the answer. Zuzu postulates that it's the wrong artists being nominated; but with bigger classes you get through the alleged "garbage dump" quicker, and you're eventually forced to deal with the acts that she believes are the quality candidates, theoretically. Of course, it's also possible that the NomComm could show no shortage of acts that wouldn't pass muster with her either, but I think that'd be a much less likely possibility. Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 02:52am |
Philip, Posted by Ben on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 09:18am |
@MarkTesla, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 10:53am |
Oh sorry Ben. I haven't made that post yet. And it'll be some time before I do. Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 11:02am |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 11:12am |
If you could kick out 2 bands from the 2019 ballot, who would it be? For me, it would be Def Leppard and Janet Jackson Posted by Michael on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 12:06pm |
Timothy, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 12:53pm |
Enig, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 13:02pm |
Michael, Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 13:04pm |
King Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 13:22pm |
If I could axe two, Stevie Nicks (as stated before, if someone is going to go in as a 2x female inductee, someone like Tina Turner would be much more deserving) and Devo (I'm sorry, I know they are much bigger than "Whip It" but with all the other significant genre bands like The Cure, Kraftwerk and Roxy Music on the ballot, they just are on here seemingly so that the Hall can say "oh look, we at least nominated them". Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 13:46pm |
Zuzu, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 13:48pm |
King Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 13:56pm |
Zuzu, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 13:57pm |
Zuzu, Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 14:16pm |
Mark Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 14:29pm |
Commenting for me is not leaving me alone. Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 14:32pm |
ZUZU Posted by KING on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 15:58pm |
I know it might be beyond the scope of this message board, but am I one of a few that thinks Herman's Hermits is more deserving than the Zombies? They had a staying power and really did chart a few times. I don't know if they're considered Brit invasion, but they are British... Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 16:19pm |
King Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 16:44pm |
@K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 16:56pm |
@richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 17:00pm |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 18:49pm |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 18:57pm |
Perhaps even more baffling is the exclusion of Procol Harum. Procol Harum is one of the co-founders of “prog.” Yes, I know that ‘A Whiter Shade Of Pale,’ had been inducted in the Singles Category earlier this year, but Procol Harum’s lack of a nomination in almost indefensible. In addition to The Moody Blues and Jefferson Airplane, Procol Harum had been a nascent influence on Rush. Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 19:08pm |
KING, Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 19:40pm |
Perhaps even more baffling is the exclusion of Procol Harum. Procol Harum is one of the co-founders of “prog.” Yes, I know that ‘A Whiter Shade Of Pale,’ had been inducted in the Singles Category earlier this year, but Procol Harum’s lack of a re-nomination in almost indefensible. In addition to The Moody Blues and Jefferson Airplane, Procol Harum had been a nascent influence on Rush. Oh by the way, if Procol Harum had been on this list; they would have probably been inducted. Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 19:56pm |
I am hoping for: Posted by The Mo-Ja'al on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 19:59pm |
I am hoping for Def Leppard and MC5. And Pat Benatar, Chubby Checker, The Spinners, Jethro Tull, the Guess Who, Foreigner, Stone Temple Pilots, and Smashing Pumpkins are waiting. Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:20pm |
My revised predictions for this year's inductees(if six): Posted by richie on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:22pm |
Phillip, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:22pm |
richie, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:27pm |
Enig, Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:39pm |
Richie Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:47pm |
KING, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:51pm |
Enig, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:55pm |
Phillip, Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 20:59pm |
It would be interesting to see some of you list artists that were inducted into the Hall who you feel do not belong. I'll go with Randy Newman and solo Ringo Starr. Posted by MarkTesla on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 21:03pm |
But what about Billy Idol? Posted by Michael on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 21:48pm |
It would be interesting to see some of you list artists that were inducted into the Hall who you feel do not belong. I'll go with Randy Newman and solo Ringo Starr. Posted by Donnie on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 22:11pm |
John Prine could be this year's Laura Nyro, don't count him out so much. Posted by Follower on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 23:17pm |
Follower, Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 23:22pm |
Donnie, Buffalo Springfield is more than that. They have a great legacy. They performed at Woodstock. They have several great songs which have become classic rock staples (my favorite being Bluebird). Do yor research. Posted by The Mo-Ja'al on Monday, 10/15/2018 @ 23:24pm |
Zulu, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 00:34am |
Richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 01:35am |
@MarkTesla, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 01:47am |
Mark Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 05:58am |
Zuzu, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 08:55am |
Timothy, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 09:12am |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 09:47am |
Donnie, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 11:02am |
For Devo fans, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 11:12am |
Philip, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 11:34am |
"For Devo fans, Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 11:50am |
@MarkTesla Devo was one of the pioneers of new wave and alternative music. Also, Whip It isn't even their best song, it's Girl U Want. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 11:56am |
Funny thing i that it is the name of one of the characters in Ir's a Wonderful Life Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 12:10pm |
To The Dude and Michael, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 12:13pm |
new wave is not considered rock and roll. It does not speak well for Devo's chances Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 12:23pm |
IMO, The Carter Family isn't influential enough. They only got popular because of Johnny Cash. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 12:28pm |
@Zuzu New Wave is rock. Punk is rock. Metal is rock. Progressive Rock is rock. Just because that record store you visited in the 70's that had metal and the others split into different sections DOES NOT MEAN IT'S NOT ROCK. There is tons of subgenres that came from rock. You can't put records from Moody Blues, Sex Pistols, Depeche Mode, and Metallica into the same row. That's too confusing! That's why they're split into other areas. Also, REO Speedwagon and Styx is rock, I don't know if you knew that. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 12:36pm |
If new wave is not rock and roll, why are the Cars in? New Wave is the beginning of alternative rock, which paved the way for Nirvana and the grunge era. The Cure should be going in, and Depeche Mode should have gone in a couple years ago. There are a few other bands who are also more than deserving, but these are the glaring omissions. Zuzu, you seem to be well-educated on the genre you choose to like (50s-60s rock and pop of the era), but the assertions that nothing good came out after 1965 is just mind-boggling Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 12:36pm |
Chubby Checker turned the Twist into a cultural phenomenon. Anybody on the nom com that thinks this should not count needs to be shown the door. Anybody who does not realize that the most important thing about rock and roll is that it was a cultural phenomenon. Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 12:42pm |
That's not The Twist. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 12:55pm |
The Twist is that Chubby Checker will never be inducted as a Performer. And if he does get in, he will be an Early Influence and he'll get in the year 2030. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 13:06pm |
New wave is indeed rock lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 13:22pm |
Not exactly sure of where to post this, as it doesn't really pertain to the 2019 nominees, but this page is the non-project related page that seems to have the most eyes on it, so I'm posting it here. Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 13:26pm |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 13:32pm |
They're always inconsistent with stuff, and they seem to pick and choose their artists based on a coin flip, most noticeably with Bob Welch and Fleetwood Mac. That being said, if they're going to include anyone, Steve Miller's band should be there--and change the damn name to "The Steve Miller Band" the way it should be, please. Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 13:33pm |
@MarkTesla "Q:Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!" and "Freedom Of Choice." Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 13:49pm |
Michael, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 13:52pm |
For me the most glaring snub of band members is the fact that The Wailers still aren't in even though Bob Marley has been for years. No doubt Marley is a global superstar who deserves a spotlight, but he didn't generally perform as a solo singer/songwriter - there were a lot of musicians helping to make and fill out his music. Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 14:28pm |
K-Dawg & Shrek, Posted by Steve Z on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 14:47pm |
I just went to Joan Jett & the Blackhearts' page and I thought Kasim Sulton was inducted as a member, but his name isn't on there... Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 14:55pm |
The fan vote standings are interesting... Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 14:59pm |
They've never inducted all of the fan vote top five, just always have inducted the #1 choice, so far. Going beyond five inductees seems to be a matter of either very close votes (their claims) or making sure they dip down to grab a committee favored direction (what we all perceive to be the truth). Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 15:05pm |
Donnie, Buffalo Springfield is more than that. They have a great legacy. They performed at Woodstock. They have several great songs which have become classic rock staples (my favorite being Bluebird). Do yor research. Posted by Donnie on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 15:24pm |
Donnie Posted by KING on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 16:04pm |
@Shrek, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 18:23pm |
@Donnie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 18:26pm |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 19:14pm |
"I was on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame website perusing through the inductee pages when I noticed some "irregularities" regarding which band members were inducted. The first I noticed was that Glouster "Nat" Rogers was missing from the inductee page for Little Anthony and the Imperials. This could've been a simple mistake, as the page surely has several typos on other pages (for example - on the Clash's page, Topper Headon is simply listed as "Nicky" and on the Famous Flames's page, Stallworth is listed as just "Baby." Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 20:03pm |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 20:04pm |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqSU5_WGozA Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 20:22pm |
For Janet Jackson, Def Leppard and Stevie Nicks fans, why should they be in the hall of fame?? I honestly don't understand why people want them in Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 21:54pm |
"IMO, The Carter Family isn't influential enough. They only got popular because of Johnny Cash. " This might be the single most clueless comment I've ever read on the internet and what has it got to do with the 2019 nominees? Posted by dana on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 22:04pm |
@michael Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 23:05pm |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 23:17pm |
I'd only eliminate Percy Sledge from the Hall. Have Freddie King and Miles Davis switch places. Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 23:31pm |
For the record, Judas Priest put out their first album, "Rocka Rolla" in 1974, and had 5 studio albums and one live album already released before the NWOBHM happened. Def Lepperd, yes, were a part of it. Young, they were, 18-19 years old at the time, I believe. Both are deserving of induction, JP should be first, but it looks like Lepperd will make it in ahead of them, with this group. Posted by Will N. on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 00:34am |
Ben, I'm not sure what you're asking. I haven't made any prediction for the 2019 inductees, and I thought you were talking about the 2019 nominees, which I recapped on the nominees discussion thread and posted on my blog. But I've made no post about actually predicting the nominees yet. And I don't operate on a timeline or deadline. I get my thoughts up when I do. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 00:54am |
@ Timothy, I read an article earlier today in UCR on why Judas Priest was not nominated this year. It said they did not score well last year in the final voting, after doing well in the fan voting. So they decided to nominate Def Lepperd instead. The story it was derived from is listed here in Rock Hall News. DEVO was nominated because Dave Grohl is a big fan, Paul Shaffer is pushing for The Zombies. Little Steven has been advocating for Procol Harum every year, and David Fricke has been trying for the Guess Who. The group of women on the committee went for Stevie Nicks after debating over possibles, Pat Benatar, The Go-Go's, Eurythmics, and Cindi Lauper. Posted by Will N. on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 01:29am |
I wonder what the fan vote would look like if people were required to cast all five votes. If you go there now you can just vote for Def Leppard like so many other people do. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 02:34am |
I do want to beg to differ something I keep seeing about Def Leppard. They are being called a band that is getting in that capitalizes just because they are a heartthrob group, a la Bon Jovi. Def Leppard does have some real roots in heavy metal. There is not one song on Hysteria that does not kick arse. Rick Allen is such an inspirational story, what he has done with one arm. And he NEVER shows it off. This is a group that I have loved for 30 years, and definitely belongs among the rock legends in the Hall. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 03:00am |
I do want to beg to differ something I keep seeing about Def Leppard. They are being called a band that is getting in that capitalizes just because they are a heartthrob group, a la Bon Jovi. Def Leppard does have some real roots in heavy metal. There is not one song on Hysteria that does not kick arse. Rick Allen is such an inspirational story, what he has done with one arm. And he NEVER shows it off. This is a group that I have loved for 30 years, and definitely belongs among the rock legends in the Hall. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 03:00am |
I do want to beg to differ something I keep seeing about Def Leppard. They are being called a band that is getting in that capitalizes just because they are a heartthrob group, a la Bon Jovi. Def Leppard does have some real roots in heavy metal. There is not one song on Hysteria that does not kick arse. Rick Allen is such an inspirational story, what he has done with one arm. And he NEVER shows it off. This is a group that I have loved for 30 years, and definitely belongs among the rock legends in the Hall. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 03:00am |
I do want to beg to differ something I keep seeing about Def Leppard. They are being called a band that is getting in that capitalizes just because they are a heartthrob group, a la Bon Jovi. Def Leppard does have some real roots in heavy metal. There is not one song on Hysteria that does not kick arse. Rick Allen is such an inspirational story, what he has done with one arm. And he NEVER shows it off. This is a group that I have loved for 30 years, and definitely belongs among the rock legends in the Hall. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 03:00am |
Sorry for the quadruple post! Computer froze Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 03:01am |
Philip, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 06:43am |
@follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 07:14am |
@K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 07:16am |
Looking at past fan votes and I noticed something interesting: in the 2017 fan vote, Judas Priest made the final top 5 position but eventually lost out on the 2018 induction (I'm guessing Nina Simone won over the ballot picks over them). I didn't realize how unpopular or unmotivated the Hall has been with them. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 07:39am |
My bad about ELO! :( I meant the 2015 poll for the 2016 inductees, they did get in around 2017. But other than that, my other points stand. :) Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 07:40am |
Timothy, Posted by Greg P. on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 07:53am |
Timothy, Posted by Greg P. on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 07:53am |
Timothy mentioned earlier that he found it strange that the Hall of Fame keeps passing on Pat Benatar. I totally agree!! She was a dominant force in Rock music for years, had a great voice, and excellent songs. Does anyone have an idea of why the nominating committee is so resistant to her? Also, do any of you have reasons why you believe she shouldn't be in? Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 08:46am |
I believe Judas Priest will be and should be in the Hall of Fame. They were a successful and influential group that unfortunately has not been inducted. We know there is a bias against heavy metal among the voters. But Priest is helped by the fact they received airplay on Rock stations and videos shown on MTV. I know that a lack of airplay hinders Iron Maiden's Hall chances. But Iron Maiden was also successful and influential, especially on a global scale. And certainly deserving of induction. Def Leppard received far more radio play than those other bands, and had many fans who weren't metal heads. Often derided as hair metal or pop metal, they made some imaginative and inventive hard rock. And were/are a favorite of mine. It's time to put Def Leppard in the Hall of Fame. I'm confident that they will make it in December. And while I consider myself a Guitar rock fan who isn't necessarily a metal head, I hope Judas Priest and Iron Maiden are also recognized soon. Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 09:12am |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 09:17am |
Could've sworn ELO was nominated twice! But Rock Hall archives are hard to search. Especially past fan votes. :/ Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 09:20am |
Janet adds another honor to her list of 2018 honors: https://variety.com/2018/music/news/janet-jackson-receive-global-icon-award-mtv-emas-1202982633/ Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 09:24am |
Follower, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 09:25am |
@Mark Tesla, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 09:27am |
Follower, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 09:30am |
Percy Sledge performed at Steven Van Zandt's wedding. Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 10:03am |
@dana sorry for me being stupid and clueless, Carter Family will get in as an early influence in the year 2030 as well. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 10:19am |
Greg Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 10:42am |
Zuzu, that's completely irrelevant to my post. I was responding to Timothy who had thought ELO was nominated twice. I was only pointing out that they had only been nominated once. I'm sure it was another "garbage dump" ballot and most of the people on it aren't rock based on where their records were shelved in your hometown record stores 40 years ago. But what do I know, I'm just a kid who needs to stop reading propaganda. Posted by Greg P. on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 11:02am |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 11:27am |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 11:35am |
@The_Claw, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 12:12pm |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 12:22pm |
@ Mark Tesla, - You had questioned as to why Pat Benatar gets passed over for nomination, and I believe it may have to do with who would get inducted with her, as far as her band. Neil Girardo, her husband since 1982, and guitarist and songwriter since the beginning, may be a sticking point. I don't know if she would even accept induction without him. They are a tight team, personally and musically, and she would not have the success without him. The rest of the band were solid also, her past drummer was on 9 albums, her bass player joined in 1995, and her longtime keyboardist left in 2007 to join the E-Street band. As K-Dawg had posted earlier, Steve Miller and Bob Seger were inducted as solo, so what is up with that? Also Pat Benatar's first 7 albums were certified Platinum, and she, Neil, and a few select band members, needs to be nominated and inducted ASAP. Posted by Will N. on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 12:27pm |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 12:37pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 12:38pm |
Will N., Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 13:31pm |
If there's a group I feel a sense of urgency to get in, it's Kraftwerk. They truly are the pioneers of electronic rock, which is the ancestor of techno that is popular around the rest of the world. Further, they were the inspiration for new wave. Without them, there is also no Daft Punk, who are far more collaborative than Ms. Nicks with all the genres and teamups they have done with so many, who arguably should be HOFers in a few years themselves. I see the inspirational bands being lumped together somewhat as "not their year", but Kraftwerk is a band I feel that should've been in 10 years ago Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 13:34pm |
MarkTesla, was at University of KY at the time & I could have gone to that Who show up in CInn where they had the stampede & 4 or 5 people died. Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 13:49pm |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 14:01pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 14:10pm |
Paul in KY, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 14:27pm |
To Ben and Paul, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 14:42pm |
Shrek, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 15:19pm |
Wil N. Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 15:28pm |
Timothy, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 15:33pm |
@richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 17:32pm |
@Will N., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 17:34pm |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 17:44pm |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 20:02pm |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 20:25pm |
Mark Tesla, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 20:49pm |
Ok then, how about this for a prediction: Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 21:23pm |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 22:26pm |
Follower, Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 22:32pm |
@ Mark Tesla, We both have acknowledged the fact that there seems to be some sort of issue or complication holding back the nomination of Pat Benatar. I do know she was one of the acts being considered among women artists along with Stevie N., Cindi Lauper, The Go-Go's, and Eurythmics. The committee chose to go with Stevie this time, and this is according to a report in the Rock Hall News. As far as her not being Rock enough, her first 2 albums rock out for sure. "Crimes of Passion", her second, would be my favorite, and the song "Hell is for Children", about child abuse, is probably the hardest rocker. Now would she accept if nominated without Neil Girardo. He would probably say to go ahead, it's OK, but she might have an issue with it, and if they would be performing, he would be right there with her. Also it would provide her with a platform to speak up for band members not inducted, if Neil G. didn't make it in. Will have to see how the process unfolds, and for so many deserving bands, it is a helluva long process. Posted by Will N. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 00:22am |
@ Mark Tesla, We both have acknowledged the fact that there seems to be some sort of issue or complication holding back the nomination of Pat Benatar. I do know she was one of the acts being considered among women artists along with Stevie N., Cindi Lauper, The Go-Go's, and Eurythmics. The committee chose to go with Stevie this time, and this is according to a report in the Rock Hall News. As far as her not being Rock enough, her first 2 albums rock out for sure. "Crimes of Passion", her second, would be my favorite, and the song "Hell is for Children", about child abuse, is probably the hardest rocker. Now would she accept if nominated without Neil Girardo. He would probably say to go ahead, it's OK, but she might have an issue with it, and if they would be performing, he would be right there with her. Also it would provide her with a platform to speak up for band members not inducted, if Neil G. didn't make it in. Will have to see how the process unfolds, and for so many deserving bands, it is a helluva long process. Posted by Will N. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 00:23am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 06:41am |
richie, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 09:17am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 09:50am |
Questlove's thoughts on the Hall of Fame committee process was interesting. He exposed one thing: the committee is definitely clueless on at least ONE PERSON who isn't in yet (Todd Rundgren). Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 09:55am |
Ben, Posted by richie on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 11:38am |
@ Timothy, Yes, you are correct in stating Pat Benatar has always been listed as just Pat, but in reality her band is a major contributor to her music. Similar to Joan Jett, just not billed that way as with the Blackhearts. Wiki states, "Although billed as a solo artist, Benatar recorded and toured with a consistent set of band members over most of her career." Looking at it, I don't think her band would be nominated, but I believe Neil Giraldo would slide in if she was to be inducted, since they are such an established team. Also, Todd R. is an interesting discussion because he has also had his own different bands, as Utopia was a key component in his career. Posted by Will N. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 11:50am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 12:00pm |
Ben, I encourage you to listen to "Autobahn" by Kraftwerk on YouTube or somewhere. Even if you're not a huge fan of electronic music, their sounds influenced the new wave that came out in the 80s, among them the lauded Duran Duran. And they are the godfathers of techno. Their music may not be for everyone, but they are by and large what most of the world's preferred genre of rock music is influenced from. They belong in the hall. Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 12:29pm |
I believe the following HOF members can all be counted on the vote for John Prine if they bother to turn in a ballot: Jerry Lee Lewis, Don Everly, Bob Dylan, Ringo Starr, Brian Wilson, Keith Richards, Carole King, Paul Simon, Roger McGuinn, Chris Hillman, Van Morrison, John Fogerty, Bob Weir, Robert Hunter, Duane Eddy, Robbie Robertson, Garth Hudson, Neil Young, Dickie Betts, Roger Waters, Jorma Kaukonen, Jack Casady, Joni Mitchell, Stephen Stills, Carlos Santana, Timothy B Schmidt, Randy Meisner, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, John Sebastion, James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt, Mike Campbell, David Byrne, Elvis Costello, Dave Mason, Jackson Browne, Bob Segar, Bono, Adam Clayton, Artimus Pyle, Mike Mills, Peter Buck, Michael Stipe, Bill Berry, John Mellencamp, Wanda Jackson, Tom Waits, Dr. John, Ron Wood, Chad Smith, Donovan, Sonny Curtis, Jerry Allison, Randy Newman, Nils Lofgren, Little Steven, Max Weinberg, John Oates, Cat Stevens, Elvin Bishop, Bill Withers, Joan Baez, Mark Knopfler, and Guy Fletcher. Posted by Shrek on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 12:30pm |
@Shrek, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 12:36pm |
The thing about Kraftwerk, is that to truly appreciate what it was they accomplished, you need to listen to those albums and then take into account *when* they were released. Listening in 2018 to their sound, it may not sound particularly revolutionary with the preponderance of electronic music that is around. It's easy to listen to them now and think, "Radiohead uses these kind of sounds but has more interesting arrangements and better lyrics". But Autobahn came out in 1974, when the biggest single of the year was "Kung Fu Fighting" and Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road was the #1 album of the year. Kraftwerk didn't just influence the direction of music, they influenced how it was made, as they were inventors of electronic instruments in order to achieve the new sounds they were making. Posted by Shrek on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 13:17pm |
That list Shrek had was 65 votes. Wonder what 65 votes does? Is that enough to get in or do you need 100 or 200 or more? Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 13:53pm |
Paul in KY, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 15:12pm |
Paul in KY, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 15:13pm |
On Percy Sledge: Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 16:00pm |
I have a question relating to criteria for nomination and induction, which I am not quite clear on, that I would like to present to the field. Say for example, Ronnie James Dio was brought up for nomination, and he had been in multiple bands over his career before forming his own band, Dio. Would his entire body of work be under consideration, including Elf, Rainbow, Black Sabbath, Dio, and Heaven and Hell, or just his own band Dio? I'm sure there are other artists that would fall into a similar situation. Posted by Will N. on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 00:41am |
Will N, I think it is probably subjective. In the case of Stevie Nicks, I feel she is already acknowledged for her Fleetwood Mac work for their induction. To contrast, Dio or say, Dave Navarro (someone who is not in yet), would probably have their entire body of work looked at with a special emphasis on their solo career. For the people mentioning collaborations with other artists, specifically the performer category really is for those that are established stars on their own without help of others. If it seems I'm singling out Stevie's situation, I kind of am. That is an excellent point to bring up, however. Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 01:30am |
Stevie Nicks has the votes. She will be Inducted in this 2018-2019 cycle. Tina Turner would be a logical next female nominee choice in the 2019-2020 cycle. She would be the next 2x woman inductee. Janet Jackson might be able to sneak in this year. KING Posted by KING on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 03:00am |
K-Dawg, Posted by Ben on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 06:36am |
I did not even realize that Stevie Nicks turned 70 this year. She still seems younger to me, mid-60's, and although I've always felt her solo work to be very good, but not exceptional, her songwriting and performances with Fleetwood Mac are phenomenal. So if she were to be voted in with this class, I am OK with it. Maybe we'll have 2 women, as Janet has a great shot also. On Tina Turner, I noticed she is in her late 70's now, probably still in great shape too. And is Roxy Music the sleeper candidate? They were pioneers in the Glam Rock era, starting in the early 70's, were highly influential to numerous bands, multi-talented, and strove for musical excellence and quality recordings. Posted by Will N. on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 07:30am |
Will, I would think that in Dio's case they would be looking at the whole body of work. Caveated by (to me) that if he had already been inducted as a member of another act, then that act should not be considered (IMO). Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 07:52am |
I just addressed the Kraftwerk issue. I have my Varied but Classic Rock tastes BUT I keep an open mind. I certainly do with the Cure, also on the Ballot. Back in the 80s I was NOT a fan at all. I was a Fan of alll the Good Old 60s and 70s Rock as well as Van Halen, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, The Cars, Dire Straits and soo many others. But the Cure I did NOT dig. A lot of my friends in College loved them and that is why I know they had an influence. It was just NOT with me. There is plenty of people Closed minded on here. I try Hard NOT to b. If I dont like somebody That is NOT a reason to disregard them. Posted by Ben on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 09:18am |
Ben, Posted by MarkTesla on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 10:47am |
Ronnie James Dio-the greatest voice ever in hard rock and heavy metal. Posted by MarkTesla on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 10:51am |
Nothing wrong with a good mourning period for someone you loved & was so much a part of your life. Please return when you feel able to. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 10:53am |
I do think two female artists will be inducted in 2019. If true, Stevie & Janet got it in the bag. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 11:26am |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 11:54am |
Ben, Posted by Steve Z on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 12:56pm |
Ben: Sorry about your father...I'll be thinking of you and your family during this time. Take whatever time you need. Posted by SotN on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 13:05pm |
I commented in earlier threads regarding current nominees. Posted by Mark on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 17:39pm |
I didn't even realize this was going on, as I've been quite busy for some time now. Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 19:44pm |
@richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 01:19am |
Didn't they used to nominate 21 and induct 6? Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 01:26am |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 02:00am |
Richie Posted by KING on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 02:06am |
Nine Inch Nails and Judas Priest are the only top 5 acts still not in the Hall. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 02:31am |
Here's a fun little exercise. Music Living Legends. How many of these music legends are as legendary as Stevie Nicks or larger. It's probably a short list. Some music legends have died recently...Aretha Franklin, Chris Cornell, Glenn Frey, Prince, Tom Petty etc. Let's look at living music legends. Acclaim, Fame, Influence, Innovation, Respect Among Peers, Longevity, Success. Posted by KING on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 02:34am |
KING, Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 02:47am |
KING, Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 03:05am |
Nine Inch Nails and Judas Priest are the only top 5 acts still not in the Hall. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 03:36am |
Chris F, Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 03:38am |
K-Dawg, Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 03:55am |
@Chris F., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 11:15am |
KING, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 11:19am |
@Anonymous, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 11:29am |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by Nick on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 11:55am |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 13:11pm |
Nick and Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 14:41pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 15:08pm |
Richie, Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 15:46pm |
Isn't the Award for Musical Excellence a seperate category (i.e. one which none of the nominees could get inducted in)? Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 16:30pm |
It is a separate category, but people have been nominated as performers and have been induced as Sidemen or Early Influences. In Todd's case, he was in several bands and was a notable music producer, so the Award for Musical Excellence would be a way to honor all of that as well as his solo work. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 16:48pm |
Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 17:01pm |
Richie Posted by KING on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 17:11pm |
KING, Posted by richie on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 17:21pm |
"You keep saying about the lack of the merit of Nicks solo career for 2x induction. A fair assessment. As we see in the case of life or the RRHOF, life isn't fair. If it was fair Bad Company, David Gates & Bread, Iron Maiden, Procol Harum,The Cure, Scorpions etc would have been inducted long ago. Stevie Nicks solo had several gold records and a few good hits Edge Of Seventeen and Stand Back." - KING Posted by joker on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 22:10pm |
It seems that Chaka Khan is in a unique situation where, IMO, her best work was with Rufus, but probably her more popular period was her solo stuff. I think in totality she is worthy of induction, but not sure how that plays out. I believe 2 of the 3 women will go in this year, and the other will go in next year. I originally predicted Janet J. for this class, and then added Stevie, after further review. Someone had mentioned earlier there is a Stevie Nicks/ Chaka Khan connection, that they are friends and share a mutual respect and admiration for each other, which could have some positive effect. I could see Stevie and Chaka/Rufus this year, and Janet and maybe Pat Benatar next year, 2 women artists in back to back years. Also Def Lepperd should be a lock, no real Rock competition from the heavier genre. Posted by Will N. on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 22:21pm |
I still think Stevie will get in this year. I'll actually be shocked if she doesn't. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 22:28pm |
@Will N., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 22:29pm |
So basically even Stevie Nicks can get the AME because of her great solo work and work with Fleetwood Mac. Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 23:00pm |
@ Timothy, Yes. Although, I would like to see Rufus get voted in, even as, at first I didn't give them much of a chance, they could get some support. I suppose I am weighing all the possibilities, and trying to formulate some kind of chemistry for this class. Originally, I did not feel Stevie's solo work, post Fleetwood Mac, was strong enough, but I think it goes way beyond that with her. As Chris F. stated so well earlier, iconic and enigmatic, and I will add otherworldly and spiritual. She seems to have the momentum going in her favor, and the Lyndsey B. suing the Mac should have no effect on her at all. That is all contractual.. I am also leaning a bit towards Todd Rundgren. All of his great material from the 70's tends to get overlooked. "Something/Anything","A Wizard, A True Star" and with Utopia, "Ra","Oops!Wrong Planet", and "Adventures in Utopia". Posted by Will N.Yes on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 23:11pm |
Yeah. Stevie WILL get in. But always expect the unexpected! Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 23:53pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 00:01am |
"So KING if Don Henley, whose solo career happened at the same exact time as Stevie Nicks and experienced about the same amount of success as Stevie Nicks, was nominated next year; would you have a problem with that?" Posted by Sean on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 00:30am |
If we have to have a vaguely adult contemporary offshoot of a '70s supergroup, I think Phil Collins, Sting, and Steve Winwood would make more sense than Henley and Nicks, probably in that order. Posted by Sean on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 00:35am |
Totally agree, Sean. The problem is making sense isn't something the Hall does very consistently... Posted by joker on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 00:58am |
Last thing anyone wants is a Don Henley solo induction lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 03:11am |
Good FRL discussion. I would say Winwood would receive induction before Phil Collins and Sting. Steve Winwood is slightly older than Phil Collins and Sting. I think Steve Winwood is in a similar position as Stevie Nicks. 50+ years in the music business. Highly respected and talented musician. Since Winwood's last nomination, he'd pick up more votes from ELO, Moody Blues, YES, Rush, and several other bands. He'd be close to a lock. Posted by KING on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 03:32am |
As I had expected, most of those aficionados of “prog” are definitely not onboard with this ballot. Now, if Jethro Tull and Duran Duran had been on this ballot, then there would have been significantly different results. Overall, most of the “prog” community cannot get behind Roxy Music. In fact some of them have even said that they definitely do not like Roxy Music. They do not feel this way, however about ELP, King Crimson, Supertramp, Procol Harum, or those two aforementioned bands (Jethro Tull and Duran Duran). Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 10:46am |
Though I did say earlier that The Cure seems to be sure to get in, I did notice that the Hall still does have an American bias with their inductees. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 17:34pm |
Dave Marsh and I may disagree about Percy Sledge but he seems to agree with me about Janet. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 17:47pm |
I'm pretty much Dave Marsh still gets a ballot. He just doesn't serve on the nominating committee anymore. Posted by Nick on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 17:55pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 18:00pm |
richie, Posted by Philip on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 18:38pm |
They don't care about anybody. They induct only the frontmen without the backing groups, like you said they don't care if the entire band shows up, they induct artists to attract people to the ceremony rather than acting like an honor society. Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 18:56pm |
With all of the predictions, different viewpoints, and wide assortment of information and hypothesis pouring in, I find it hard to arrive at definite set of inductees. I am feeling there will be 6 voted in due to the equal level of talent, and not too many clear cut choices. In an attempt to revise and narrow down the field, I am stating Def Lepperd as a definite,#1.. For #'s 2 & 3, I would say 2 out the 3 women candidates will take those. Out of Stevie N.,Janet J., and Rufus/Chaka Khan, 2 will go in, I'm leaning Stevie, and would like Chaka, but uncertain there. For the #4 slot, one of the 2, either Kraftwerk or Roxy Music, and I'm giving Roxy the nod.. #5 will go to The Cure, the Zombies, or the MC5. And #6 will be the slot for Todd Rundgren to get in, or possibly John Prine, but Todd should have the edge there. The 6th spot will provide the opportunity for a Todd R., Zombies, or MC5 to get in. As much as I would like to see Devo get selected, they will have to wait a few more years. Posted by Will N. on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 22:48pm |
@Nick, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 23:32pm |
Will N., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 23:35pm |
They put Stevie Nicks on the ballot to siphon off Janet's votes to keep her OUT of the Hall. Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 23:38pm |
And, since CHAKA & RUFUS are already 3-time losers, Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 10/21/2018 @ 23:42pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 00:51am |
I don't like how they are including artists like Al Green, Run-DMC, and Donna Summer. These artists are clearly not rock in any way. Why would you put them in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Because they are major artists and it attracts them to the dinner. I guess no one cares about this anymore. Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 02:03am |
I understand why people are saying Stevie's nomination was political on purpose but I still feel the Hall could pull in a surprise. Maybe I'm just optimistic? Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 02:11am |
Chris F., Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 04:10am |
Anonymous, how is Bob Marley not rock? He is the epitome of a rock artist. As Timothy said, it's the "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame, not the "Headbangers Ball" Hall ;) Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 04:12am |
Maybe Anonymous felt inspired because it is almost Halloween, but I doubt that the Hall inducted Donna Summer to "attract her to dinner". Posted by The_Claw on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 04:19am |
How many times do I have to say this ?? Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 05:08am |
Or...at least it's SUPPOSED to be. Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 05:11am |
Hi everyone! Posted by Lax35 on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 09:01am |
Lax35, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 09:19am |
Lax35, Posted by Nick on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 09:48am |
Lax35, very sorry to hear of your Aunt's passing. Cancer sucks. Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 13:07pm |
Lax35, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 13:46pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 13:52pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 14:22pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 14:48pm |
One more thing for now I'm going to add. I can't stress enough for my own personal opinion how important the Cure going in is. They open the door for new wave. While other acts, the Clash and Talking Heads notably, have new wave elements, the Cure and Depeche Mode are the kings of the genre. It also symbolizes that the RRHOF acknowledges they are ready to admit the 80s are not just about old hard rockers and glam. Metal is on a similar path, but obviously Priest and Iron Maiden were left off this ballot, which is as dumb as leaving Depeche Mode off. I do think DM has more criteria to goin than the Cure, but Robert Smith and company are undoubtedly the face of new wave. My disappointment if they don't get in would only be rivaled by Kraftwerk's omission, and to a far greater extent, Miss Jackson if you're Nasty. Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 15:32pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 15:58pm |
Regarding The Cure, I think a lot of people are failing to realize that having them on the same ballot with Roxy Music, Kraftwerk, Devo, and heck, MC5 just harms all of their chances immensely. These groups were NOTHING like each other musically, but they draw from the same well of having a lot of love from critics and barely get anything played on classic rock stations (if at all). Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 16:30pm |
Yeah I'm still pulling for The Cure to get in. They're the new wave/alternative rock act to beat if we go on the FRL and Rock Hall votes alone. And Radiohead has officially returned to my "they better be in it this time" list. I'm actually pulling Todd to be the singer-songwriter to get in as a performer. Think about it: the way the Hall votes, I think they're not gonna put John Prine in just on the Todd note alone. John picked a bad year to get nominated. Had it been 19 nominees, he might've stood a chance. But the way Questlove was talking, there might be more push to let Todd in since some thought he was already in. And then there was two or three more and this is where things get tricky... Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 16:38pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 16:43pm |
"This class should be headlined by Janet Jackson. She is the most deserving, most popular, and most entertaining of the bunch." - Chris F Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 16:45pm |
Casper, Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 16:47pm |
There's kind of a beautiful irony that Leppard and Nicks are the only "American classic rock radio" picks and are getting similar vote totals that are far above everyone else. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 16:49pm |
Point being, if the rumor is true that the #1 fan ballot choice gets inducted every time no matter what, then why on earth would you want any other act to finish near your favorite? Under that scenario, the selections in the #2-#5 slots do not matter. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 16:50pm |
Chris F, it is Paul Shaffer who goes to bat for The Zombies annually. It probably helps that he is a keyboardist and The Zombies, obviously, are renowned for Rod Argent's skills in that area. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 16:58pm |
Strategically speaking, a vote for Todd Rundgren is the dumbest for which anybody could cast a ballot. Anybody that knows even the slightest about how the process works would be better at rolling the dice and assuming he gets in via Musical Excellence at worst. That could then open the door up for five or six performers NOT named Todd Rundgren to get in via the main category. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:06pm |
Likewise, it's a VERY savvy move to vote for The Zombies NOW if you even remotely think they should be inducted as Performers, ever. Otherwise, the Singles category ("Time of the Season" or "She Not There" - the former extra dumb given the classic LP it comes from) looms its controversial head...perhaps MC5 ("Kick Out The Jams") also need to get in soon or risk being backdoored. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:08pm |
Casper, Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:10pm |
The band most in trouble due to the Singles category? Easy. The Monkees. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:11pm |
No question that Janet was the biggest thing at her peak, even more than Def Leppard. I agree that her induction would bring a lot of interest from the general public. Chaka Khan? Not so much. Questlove needs to let that one go in my opinion. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:17pm |
Or just backdoor her via Musical Excellence. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:20pm |
Casper, Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:25pm |
Seriously, if they stuck to that pattern for just a few years, there would seemingly be nobody left who did their important work pre-1970 that REALLY deserves it and you'd get in SO many names from after then via the ballot and Musical Excellence categories. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:33pm |
Casper, Posted by Chris F. on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:33pm |
They really should just draw a clear line. Performers get 25 years of eligibility and if they don't get in, relegated to the Singles and/or a new Albums category. That would make the ballots more and more focused on the 80s and beyond as the years go on. Perhaps stick to a yearly ballot of 20 names so that these acts all get a lot of chances to be inducted during their 25 year eligibility period. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 17:38pm |
Gonna bust out the latest Whitburn books in a second in order to discuss popularity. Enjoy, I guess. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 18:29pm |
Top Pop Albums 1955-2016 Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 18:43pm |
Top Pop Singles 1955-2015 Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 19:02pm |
Combined US Popularity Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 19:12pm |
Interestingly, Janet's commerical peak at the tail-end of the 1980s was not enough for her to even make the Top 50 artist list on the singles charts for that decade. But she is #2 for the 1990s behind Mariah Carey. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 19:24pm |
The 2019 Commercial-Appeal-Only Class: Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 19:29pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 20:53pm |
Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 20:56pm |
So it being called the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" and not the "Rock Hall of Fame" is an excuse to have all these artists who play other types of music? Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 20:58pm |
"Point being, if the rumor is true that the #1 fan ballot choice gets inducted every time no matter what, then why on earth would you want any other act to finish near your favorite? Under that scenario, the selections in the #2-#5 slots do not matter." - Chris F Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:08pm |
@Anonymous, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:10pm |
Chris F., great writeup on the nominees! Excellent analysis. Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:16pm |
Lynryd Skyryrd went in on nom 7. Talk about a complete travesty... Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:21pm |
http://futurerocklegends.com/2019_Nominees.php#379453 Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:32pm |
Came across Billboard doing a 100 Greatest Alternative Artists via the 30th anniversary of the Alternative Songs chart. They did this rank-down along with the 300 most successful songs just a few weeks ago. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:42pm |
Came across Billboard doing a 100 Greatest Alternative Artists via the 30th anniversary of the Alternative Songs chart. They did this rank-down along with the 300 most successful songs just a few weeks ago. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:42pm |
Understood. It's up to them what defines "rock and roll" whether I agree or not. Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:54pm |
Hmmm. Looking at the list of what was big on the alternative charts, you can kind of get the sense of why the Hall's old guard on both the nominating committee and the voting body just feel there isn't much of merit from the 80s and beyond. Of course, that's because they are ignoring indie or left-of-center acts like Tori Amos or yet to be nominated hip hop acts like Outkast, etc. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:54pm |
BTW, the reason acts like Skynyrd or David Bowie or Pink Floyd had to inexplicably wait is rather obvious to me. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 21:57pm |
The Hall's problem with the voting body has been the same throughout the decades. They need to give younger artists and younger writers voting status and that will help balance things out. Otherwise, you're going to keep asking the ancient and elderly to evaluate music that was released when they turned sixty years of age and beyond. Do you really expect them to favor Radiohead over their own recording peers or childhood/teenage LP favorites? Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 22:00pm |
Wow, Casper, busting out the commercial tracking data. That's usually Roy's or my bailiwick. Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies. Posted by Philip on Monday, 10/22/2018 @ 23:29pm |
@Paul in KY, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 02:05am |
Casper, Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 09:54am |
Ah, I know Of Monsters and Men, actually and they are solid. I did not think that they had enough radio hits to be at #99 so I figured it was some other group. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 10:08am |
@ Timothy, Yes. Although, I would like to see Rufus get voted in, even as, at first I didn't give them much of a chance, they could get some support. I suppose I am weighing all the possibilities, and trying to formulate some kind of chemistry for this class. Originally, I did not feel Stevie's solo work, post Fleetwood Mac, was strong enough, but I think it goes way beyond that with her. As Chris F. stated so well earlier, iconic and enigmatic, and I will add otherworldly and spiritual. She seems to have the momentum going in her favor, and the Lyndsey B. suing the Mac should have no effect on her at all. That is all contractual.. I am also leaning a bit towards Todd Rundgren. All of his great material from the 70's tends to get overlooked. "Something/Anything","A Wizard, A True Star" and with Utopia, "Ra","Oops!Wrong Planet", and "Adventures in Utopia". Posted by Will N.Yes on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 11:02am |
Casper, Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 13:07pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 13:31pm |
I can't even look at the fan vote results anymore. It's too painful to watch. Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 14:10pm |
Who are you rooting for, Michael? Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 15:22pm |
Who are you rooting for, Michael? Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 15:22pm |
My ballot, if I were permitted to vote: Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 16:06pm |
The following acts have been long ignored (or nominated yet passed over for marginal acts) and must be inducted for evolving rock 'n' roll into an art form and their innovations/re-inventions: Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 16:37pm |
Zach - My biggest criticism of your list for induction is that I would consider it a travesty to induct The Special and Madness without having Prince Buster, Ernest Ranglin, Toots And The Maytals, Lee Scratch Perry, or The Wailers (only Bob Marley was inducted without The Wailers)in the HOF, among other Ska and Reggae greats. To me that would be like putting Led Zeppelin and Cream in the HOF without having inducted people like Muddy Waters and John Lee Hooker. Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 17:14pm |
Shrek, I did not intend to omit those greats of Ska and reggae. Both genres are in dire need of greater representation of the Hall. I am humbly apologetic for the unintentional omissions. My list was not intended as an end-all, be-all, but a beginner. I should also add that the Specials and Madness are worthy choices for their advancing of ska; the Specials did it by blending ska with punk (and then later reggae, exotica, and other styles on their second album, More Specials) and Madness did it by adding British music hall and pub rock influences. The 2-tone movement was a huge deal in the UK in 1979-81, and had far-reaching effects domestically and abroad (i.e., American acts like the Untouchables and Mighty Mighty Bosstones, adjacent bands like UB40 and Dexy's Midnight Runners) Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 17:42pm |
Thanks for the clarification Zach. Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 19:35pm |
Zach, Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 19:39pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 19:46pm |
Shrek, my list of acts whom I believe are unworthy of induction was a response to an inquiry posed by Mark Tesla. The original post follows, verbatim: Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 20:16pm |
@Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 21:02pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 21:19pm |
@Timothy Pernell Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 21:24pm |
Michael, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 00:43am |
Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 00:44am |
I posted this on The Immortals last month, but I think I'll repost it here, as this is a better place. Now that we know the 2019 class, there's only one act not old enough in the book.: Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 04:15am |
What's with all the "R"s on this year's ballot? Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 10:02am |
In the fan vote, is it me or has the numbers for Stevie stopped growing so much? Todd's catching up... Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 10:22am |
Could be strategic. Best way for Def Leppard fans to pad the lead is to NOT vote for Stevie Nicks. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 12:02pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 12:34pm |
I still think that fan ballot is a disastrous idea. I can't wait for the nominating committee to finally make a mistake and stir up a bees nest of the most die hard fanbases. Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 12:53pm |
Follower, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 13:50pm |
Ruh roh... Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 14:55pm |
Casper: Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 21:23pm |
Well, the list is actually a mathematical construct from Billboard via the Alternative Rock airplay charts over the last thirty years. It's not perfect though since big hits now tend to chart WAY longer as the format has only allowed LESS music to thrive, and generally, less memorable music over the last 10+ years. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 22:13pm |
If Roxy Music gets in, it'll be because of Brian Eno. After all, Dire Straits and Electric Light Orchestra got in due to having members that are highly respected in the field. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 22:39pm |
If Roxy Music gets in, it'll be because of Brian Eno. After all, Dire Straits and Electric Light Orchestra got in due to having members that are highly respected in the field. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 22:46pm |
Follower, Posted by richie on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 22:55pm |
The 60’s are over. Look at the last few nominee lists. As it should be, the door is closing on them. Take an act that debuted in 1969, they have been eligible since 1994 (24 years). That’s enough time. Move on. This is the Hall Of Fame, not the hall of very good. Posted by Classic Rock on Wednesday, 10/24/2018 @ 23:05pm |
Casper, Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 10/25/2018 @ 01:26am |
@ Classic Rock Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 10/25/2018 @ 01:29am |
Casper, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/25/2018 @ 02:18am |
Ugh... I always miscontrue history lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/25/2018 @ 02:25am |
I wondered if Def Leppard will get more votes than last year’s ballot winner. I could see Stevie make to a million too in second. Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 10/25/2018 @ 09:13am |
Here are my official predictions for this year's inductees (if six): Posted by richie on Friday, 10/26/2018 @ 15:26pm |
Richie, Posted by Chris F. on Friday, 10/26/2018 @ 15:58pm |
Here are my official predictions for this year's inductees (if six): Posted by richie on Friday, 10/26/2018 @ 16:11pm |
King's Final Call 2018-2019 Induction Votes. Posted by KING on Friday, 10/26/2018 @ 17:36pm |
October 26 is still pretty early and for now I stick with my five/six inductees that I already picked (for now) lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 10/26/2018 @ 18:32pm |
Lord... even on a great post, I manage to screw up. Todd is in my list of the performers getting inducted. So yeah, it's up between really RATM and the Zombies as inductee #6. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 10/26/2018 @ 18:39pm |
KING, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 10/26/2018 @ 21:27pm |
A mild analysis Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 00:18am |
@ Anonymous Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 10:33am |
The Dude, Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 11:35am |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 12:32pm |
@ Richie Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 13:02pm |
@The Dude, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 14:49pm |
The Dude & Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 16:16pm |
Isn't Tom pushing for Def Leppard? Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 21:50pm |
I believe that the nominating committee considers any one of the artists in the final mix to be possible inductees. They are the ones who nominated them, and will be voting on them, feels they all have the credentials, so in no way can anyone say they are not worthy of induction. They have already stated that they prefer to diversify the vote, and try not to vote too heavy in one particular genre or style, or era. So you should see 2 out of 3 female artists(Stevie, Janet, though I would love to get some Funk in there w/ Rufus-Chaka}. Also 2 Brit acts, Def Lepperd, and either Roxy Music or The Cure. And The Cure was obviously influenced by Roxy Music. Aside from Bowie, T. Rex, and Slade, Roxy Music was huge in instrumenting the Glam rock scene. You should also see 2 pre-1980's acts, not counting Stevie. You could see Roxy and Todd Rundgren, The Zombies are in play, and longshots MC5 or DEVO. Excluding the longshots, Pick 6 of the 8 bands/artists I mentioned, and you got it. Could be 3 Brit artists, 2 women, and Todd R., possibly. Why couldn't John Prine get the Musical Excellence award, as well?.. your thoughts? Timothy, I know you are already ruling out Rufus/Chaka, but I still feel Roxy Music gets overlooked quite a bit..Bryan Ferry, especially. Posted by Will N. on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 22:35pm |
Timothy, Posted by Philip on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 01:13am |
Philip, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 04:44am |
I should clarify. When I say that Rufus and Chaka Khan and Roxy Music and other acts like Prine don't have the votes for 2019, I'm surely NOT saying that these acts are "unworthy" of an induction. In fact, I think all fifteen deserve to get in. But because of the voting process and the limit of how many inductees they allow each year, some artists are more worth an induction for some than others. That's all I was saying. And I agree that they SHOULD induct Rufus and Chaka, but they simply won't this year. That's all I was saying. Like I said, I'm a huge fan of Rufus and Chaka and had I been part of the 1,000 folks that decide who gets in, they'll be high on the list. Also if I was part of the Rock Hall, I'll bring back the inductee number to eight and Rufus and Chaka Khan would be in there. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 04:48am |
@ Timothy, Absolutely, I totally agree with you about the voting process, and generally speaking, is what I was referring to, not anyone's personal opinions or predictions. I think everyone has criticized the Hall, at some point, of this artist should not be in and this band got snubbed. I really find this all very interesting, because normally people do not realize how the whole process works, and what all goes on behind the curtain. They usually just question and complain about the results. To me, it's all good. I am enjoying checking it all out, and everybody's great input, information and speculations. Posted by Will N. on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 11:43am |
@ Will, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 15:33pm |
So the 90s are "classic rock" now? I know how times change but the format has to end somewhere. Why not just split it into decades? Posted by The Mo-Ja'al on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 18:08pm |
@ The Mo-Ja’al Posted by The Dude on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 18:37pm |
Valuable rock and the like basically started being underground in the mid-90s onward with the commercial and artistic possibilities being fully realized circa mid-00s. Posted by Casper on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 18:53pm |
Well thank groodness for sites like Pandora where you can customize your own stations. Posted by The Mo-Ja'al on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 19:55pm |
Although, I mostly prefer owned music when I listen to my favorites. But if ya’ll think streaming and the hipsters who work for Pitchfork are killing terrestrial radio, think again. It’ll become less copeate and more local-frenidly with more diversity almost like it was before the Telecommunications Act of 1996 was signed. However, the radio industry will continue to impact the Rock Hall. Posted by The Dude on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 20:13pm |
*corporate Posted by The Dude on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 20:17pm |
@The Dude, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/29/2018 @ 00:22am |
@ Tim Posted by The Dude on Monday, 10/29/2018 @ 01:17am |
All this talk of the changing tides of mainstream rock music stations and the evolution toward pop and pop rock becoming more the focus of "rock and roll" brings up an interesting situation. Existentially, as the 2000s rock fades into the 2010s, where there have been an ever-shrinking arrival of newer traditional rock groups making an impact, are we going to see a potential switch one day in the 2030s or so to possibly an all-pop ballot of nominees? It might be fascinating to see. On the flip side, all the types that scream that 60s and 70s rock is the only true rock and roll might not be around to see it. This is just from an observation trying to be objective, not an attack on any one type of fan. Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 10/29/2018 @ 01:46am |
Been just as many important acts that are outside or mostly outside the mainstream...Arcade Fire, The National, The Strokes, LCD Soundsystem, Cat Power, Fleet Foxes, Father John Misty, Sufjan Stevens, blah blah blah. Posted by Casper on Monday, 10/29/2018 @ 02:11am |
@Dude, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 10/29/2018 @ 08:34am |
Ok, so which group/act is going to surprise us and get in, the surprise act that always seems to miss being predicted? I would say John Prine stands a good chance (not a deserving one at this point, but a potential nod to go in). He was the left field choice the nom com always seems to dredge out of nowhere. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 10/31/2018 @ 02:27am |
I’m hoping for Roxy Music to make it so the Hall can keep the 60’s and 70’s Prog train going, but I can take Todd Rundgren if that won’t happen this year. I’m also rooting for MC5. So far, the Stooges and Velvet Underground are in, and we need one more band to complete “the Holy Trinity of Proto-Punk.” Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 10/31/2018 @ 10:41am |
Either Roxy Music or MC5. Those would be the surprises. I don't think Prine would be a surprise since singer-songwriters are almost automatically inducted. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/31/2018 @ 13:14pm |
I don't think there'll be any surprises this year, I really think that the inductees this year (if six) will be the ones that I'm predicting will get in this year (The Cure, Def Leppard, Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, Todd Rundgren and The Zombies). Posted by richie on Wednesday, 10/31/2018 @ 13:26pm |
If the voters are going to make the 2019 induction ceremony look anything like the 2018 or 2016 induction ceremony: Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10/31/2018 @ 14:58pm |
Just looked at the RRHOF fan vote standings, Radiohead better watch out again... Roxy Music is trying to pull ahead of them now in the same way RATM did! Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 10/31/2018 @ 21:23pm |
@ Roy, I prefer your last list with the 6 inductees, and I think there will be 6 because it is such a level playing field, with only Lepperd as the standout artist,(No other Hard Rock competition). One change I would infer into your Pick 6, would be to slot Roxy Music into #4, and then The Cure and The Zombies would duke it out for the 6th position. 2 women artists, 3 Brits, and Todd R., well because he is Todd Rundgren, for eff's sake.. Posted by Will N. on Thursday, 11/1/2018 @ 01:17am |
I'm going with Roy's last list as well. These are the people I feel WILL make it in 2019. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/1/2018 @ 08:49am |
While we wait for the winners of the ballot, are there anybody you want them to present your picks as inductors? Here are mine as a wishful thinking if my predictions came true entirely. Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 11/1/2018 @ 11:49am |
The Dude, Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 11/1/2018 @ 13:42pm |
I've got a feeling we're going to have a mostly "solo artists" induction ceremony in 2019, and if all the Rock elites actually vote for John Prine then... Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/1/2018 @ 13:49pm |
@ Chris Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 11/1/2018 @ 13:56pm |
The Dude, Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 11/1/2018 @ 14:06pm |
I still think that this year's inductees (if six) will be The Cure, Def Leppard, Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, Todd Rundgren and The Zombies. Posted by richie on Thursday, 11/1/2018 @ 22:58pm |
@Roy, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/2/2018 @ 00:15am |
@The Dude, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/2/2018 @ 00:16am |
@richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/2/2018 @ 00:22am |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Friday, 11/2/2018 @ 00:32am |
You really have to look past Stevie Nick's, post Fleetwood Mac, solo work, which is substantial with formidable highlights, and very good, maybe not great, IMO. I had to look at her overall songwriting achievements, and her ability to rise above the normality, and into the crystal vision realm, that inspires her creativity. She pretty much took Fleetwood Mac over the top with her great, haunting, and mesmerizing songs. Check out the credentials, "Rhiannon", "Dreams", "Landslide", "Silver Spring"(my favorite), "Sara", "Gypsy", "Sisters of the Moon"{another favorite}, "Gold Dust Woman", and probably forgetting a few. Even though all were written while with Fleetwood Mac, she dominates these fantastic compositions, with the Mac basically being her backup band, and although all her work done with the band is credited to F.Mac, the writing, the inspiration, and the influence must be taken into consideration. Posted by Will N. on Friday, 11/2/2018 @ 01:22am |
https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/09/race_and_the_rock_hall_how_ign.html Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 11/2/2018 @ 07:14am |
Bill, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/2/2018 @ 11:12am |
Who should induct Def Leppard this year? Posted by Classic Rock on Saturday, 11/3/2018 @ 00:56am |
CR, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/3/2018 @ 01:04am |
@ Classic Rock Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 11/3/2018 @ 08:47am |
Plus Dylan has never inducted anyone so why would he start now? LOL Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/3/2018 @ 12:09pm |
@ Tim Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 11/3/2018 @ 12:14pm |
Dude, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/3/2018 @ 16:04pm |
I'm thinking the Dylan Inducting Def Leppard was a joke... Posted by Paul in KY on Saturday, 11/3/2018 @ 22:03pm |
My initial thought as well, was that comment was just a goof, throwing some red meat out there. I think a good possibility to induct John Prine, if selected, would be Bonnie Raitt. Posted by Will N. on Saturday, 11/3/2018 @ 23:01pm |
Paul in KY, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 00:02am |
I mean "CR's not a fan of Def Leppard". <_< Lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 00:02am |
Only way that would work would be how many votes did everyone else get. Like when Heart and Donna Summer were nominated in 2012, I was like you: "they STILL ain't gonna induct Donna. They just put Heart in there so they can say 'HEY we inducted a few women this time!'" Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 02:28am |
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/488267/rock-hall-regrets-donna-summer-snub Posted by WILLIAM GORDON on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 03:00am |
WILLIAM GORDON, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 05:37am |
"Unfortunately, the message is this- if you are a female r & b artist, you will most probably be inducted posthumously. However, if you are a male rapper- you are much more likely to be inducted." Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 12:42pm |
Enig- Posted by WILLIAM GORDON on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 12:56pm |
P.S. Posted by WILLIAM GORDON on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 13:00pm |
Yes, Bob Dylan inducting Def Leppard was a joke. I assumed the absurdity of the suggestion to be obvious. Anyway, everyone knows that Stevie Wonder...aw, forget it. Posted by Classic Rock on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 15:31pm |
Damn William, tell us why you're really mad LOL Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 17:31pm |
https://www.rockhall.com/fanvote/standings Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 17:33pm |
The teenage me enjoyed Def Leppard quite a bit, but that has been quite a while ago now. As far as the HOF, they had TWO diamond albums. I know that sales doesn’t mean much to many people with votes, but TWO diamond albums, that’s good enough for me. Posted by Classic Rock on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 17:49pm |
@ Classic Rock Posted by The Dude on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 18:02pm |
I still think that this year's inductees (if six)is going to be The Cure, Def Leppard, Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, Todd Rundgren and The Zombies. Posted by richie on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 18:44pm |
@Dude, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 19:04pm |
Timothy, Posted by richie on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 19:20pm |
Here’s a fun little list. Since Def Leppard is the last band to have more than one diamond awards from the RIAA, I’ve been wondering who would be the next rock band to have that kind of achievement for the second time even if it’s a single. Posted by The Dude on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 19:54pm |
Journey and then U2. Don't know about the others though unless they do an Eagles lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 20:26pm |
I dunno, Dude, the Hits compilations for Journey and their appearances on tons of playlists kind of cannibalize the sales for Escape. Posted by Casper on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 20:40pm |
And if you were to adjust for sales in a declining sales environment, Green Day would obviously be double diamond with American Idiot having been their second LP to achieve that success. 5 million copies in the US of that record (I think) in 2004 is more impressive than 10 million of Dookie a decade prior. Posted by Casper on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 20:42pm |
And if you were to adjust for sales in a declining sales environment, Green Day would obviously be double diamond with American Idiot having been their second LP to achieve that success. 5 million copies in the US of that record (I think) in 2004 is more impressive than 10 million of Dookie a decade prior. Posted by Casper on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 20:42pm |
"Do you not like Def Leppard? Lol just asking." Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 22:06pm |
People who are longtime bloggers to this site will remember what I said a few years ago: Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 22:10pm |
Interesting that there is one band there (Linkin Park) that isn't in the RRHOF yet, obviously first off because they aren't eligible til about 2026. I've heard some arguments why they're not worthy, but if you look at their innovations, with 2 vocalists in contrasting styles that sing complementary to each other, AND having sold so many albums, if they don't become a compelling case. Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 22:29pm |
Interesting that there is one band there (Linkin Park) that isn't in the RRHOF yet, obviously first off because they aren't eligible til about 2026. I've heard some arguments why they're not worthy, but if you look at their innovations, with 2 vocalists in contrasting styles that sing complementary to each other, AND having sold so many albums, if they don't become a compelling case. Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 22:30pm |
@ Bill Posted by The Dude on Sunday, 11/4/2018 @ 22:45pm |
WILLIAM GORDON, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 11/5/2018 @ 00:58am |
@William, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/5/2018 @ 02:40am |
http://www.vulture.com/2018/10/all-15-2019-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominees-ranked.html Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/5/2018 @ 08:55am |
Why would Bill Wyman hate Def Leppard so bad? Fellow countrymen whose careers took very similar paths as the Stones Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 00:53am |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 02:07am |
Interesting developments in the Rock Hall fan vote: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 02:11am |
The Cure*, I said Culture lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 02:12am |
Oh and Todd has over 204,000 votes now. :) Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 02:14am |
Hi Everyone. I said I would be back sometime in November. It takes awhile to get over the death of a father when you were close to him your whole life.I am alright Now. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 06:14am |
K Dawg Posted by Mark on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 09:12am |
In my honest opinion, this is absolutely the worst possible ballot that the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Nominating Committee has created since 2015. Those of you who are aficionados of alternative music should probably be enthusiastic; whereas those of us who are aficionados of “prog” are extremely disinterested! With slightly more than a month to go, please compare this year’s ballot to last year’s ballot. Do you really think that Def Leppard and Stevie Nicks will approach 1 million votes by the deadline? By comparison, The Moody Blues had garnered almost a million votes last year. The “prog” aficionados essentially have no one to root for. :-P Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 10:06am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 10:36am |
Ben, Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 11:04am |
@Enig, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 11:33am |
@richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 12:09pm |
Another reason the fan vote numbers are down from last year - the added verification step for email addresses. Last year, I was voting from 4 different email addresses, using old work emails. You just entered the address and voted. This year, the first time you signed up, they sent a verification to the email address with a link you had to go and click on. This year, I am only using one email address, 5 votes a day. Compare that to last year, where I was using my 5 votes across 4 email addresses to cast 20 votes per day. I wonder how many people were using multiple emails to vote last year. Posted by Greg P. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 12:11pm |
@Greg P, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 12:26pm |
TImothy, Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 12:35pm |
Timothy, Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 12:37pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 12:56pm |
Philip, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 13:35pm |
Chris F., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 13:37pm |
TImothy, Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 13:48pm |
I meant "but to do it before then? Doesn't make sense". Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 13:56pm |
Philip, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 13:59pm |
Is there anyone besides Clyde McPhatter (and Eric Clapton) that deserve induction three or more times? Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 14:55pm |
Cool. We're on the same page then. Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 14:55pm |
I have yet to make a proper prediction. I will do so now on the day where a lot of political predictions will meet their fate. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 15:09pm |
Surprise gamble? I am willing to bet that Kraftwerk has received a sizable chunk of support over the years, hence why they keep ending up on the ballot. I don't think they're a pet project of anyone the way Chaka Khan is for Questlove. Kraftwerk could conceivably be a bit of a shocker and finally gain admission. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 15:11pm |
"And Smokey's induction in 1987 is probably still the weirdest induction in history, even weirder than Clyde getting in because he actually fit the Rock Hall's 25-year rule, and much weirder than James Brown because, despite being a member of the Famous Flames, he was more famous as a standalone act so the committee, probably not knowing better, felt James was always the star, why not? But at least the Flames and the Miracles eventually got in, why haven't the Dominoes and Bill Ward?" Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 15:14pm |
Bill, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 16:47pm |
Just found an interesting list from Business Insider called "The 100 most popular rock bands of all time." If you're gonna react, read the descriptions first and asterisk symbols are the inductees. Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 17:49pm |
Just to let ya know, I accidentally added the symbol on Fall Out Boy by mistake since they're not eligible yet. Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 17:52pm |
Any list that doesn't include Soundgarden, Nine Inch Nails, Judas Priest and the Jimi Hendrix Experience is a garbage list. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 18:22pm |
The Dude, you also gave Foreigner a Rock Hall designation and not Alice Cooper. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 18:55pm |
Also, you marked the Doors as not in. Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 20:10pm |
Inducting JAMES BROWN and SMOKEY ROBINSON alone , without the singing groups that made them famous, was a MISTAKE. Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 20:18pm |
***TYPO*** Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 20:29pm |
Edited version of one of my previous comments. I was on a rush for something. Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 20:40pm |
As a big fan of popularity as criteria I have to say that list is trash. In no world should Wikipedia page views be counted as a metric. And when creating a list of popular artists it needs to be constructed in a way that the list can not be picked apart by changing focus on the weight given to any included criteria. Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 21:38pm |
@Bill, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 21:53pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 22:53pm |
"I do find it weird they would add James' name to the JB's because he wasn't even a member lmao'" Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 23:14pm |
And...speaking of Hank Ballard & The MIDNIGHTERS, Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 23:21pm |
@Bill, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 23:44pm |
Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/6/2018 @ 23:54pm |
@ Casper, You had listed 5 British acts as picks for induction, but I don't think the Hall would vote in 5. I would agree with you on 3, DL, hopefully Roxy Music, and the 3rd would be between The Zombies and The Cure. Anyway, figure on 3 of these 4. This year has been proclaimed, I've heard, as the Year of the Woman, so why not 2 women artists this year. Stevie has just turned 70 this year, and Janet is due, seems like her time is here. As Timothy stated, the Hall will usually induct at least one R&B/Rap artist. Also will agree with you on Todd Rundgren, somehow he should get voted in with the #6 slot. The Cure(well deserving), may get edged out if The Zombies and Roxy Music get more support. Robert Smith's influences are interesting. Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, of course, thnx to older brother. He listened to Nick Drake a lot at age 10, then big on the Glam scene, with Bowie, T.Rex, Slade, Sweet, and *Roxy Music*, as influences. Also Alex Harvey Band was huge, then with Punk emerging, was into Pistols, Stranglers, Buzzcocks, the Banshees, Costello, and Wire. And finally, after touring with Siouxsie & Banshees, he gathered inspiration from that, and albums by Nico, Brian Eno, and Psychedelic Furs, in making the album, "Pornography". Posted by Will N. on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 02:15am |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF_tKfP5VE0 Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 04:00am |
Will, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 04:28am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 05:53am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 11:20am |
Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 12:36pm |
Since last night, there have been some moves on the fan vote. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 13:01pm |
The 2019 Songwriters Hall of Fame nominees have been announced and they are: Posted by richie on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 13:21pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 15:02pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 15:50pm |
Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 16:23pm |
@richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 16:57pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 20:04pm |
Reposting my picks. I'm sticking with it and holding out hope Kraftwerk will get in, but I'm going to amend one thing. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 21:16pm |
@Chris F., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/7/2018 @ 23:03pm |
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1060191676399017986 Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 07:18am |
ROY Posted by KING on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 12:03pm |
THE NOMINEES FOR THE 2019 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 13:19pm |
KING, Posted by richie on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 17:24pm |
Chris F, your nomination number comparisons aren't quite apt. Those earlier inductees faced much, much stronger competition than these modern ones. If anything, the more nominations an act piles up at this point only seems to make it more likely that they WON'T again and recent history clearly favors those making their first ballot. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 18:04pm |
richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 19:06pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 19:08pm |
Looks like Joe and Kristen from Who Cares About The Rock Hall are now part of the Voting Body. Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 21:11pm |
ROY Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/8/2018 @ 21:58pm |
@Dude, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 00:03am |
On the Songwriters, Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, was surprised they are not in yet. Tommy James, well he and the Shondells should be in as a performer, but if this is the first step, OK. To me, this would be such a minimal percentage of what Tommy and his band contributed to rock and roll. Annie and Dave, pretty awesome, I'm good with that pick. John Prine, yes, and Tom T. Hall is very cool. He had the humor element sometimes apparent in his songwriting, not quite like Ray Stevens, but similar. Sorry, I am not familiar with some of the pre- 60's-70's nominees to comment on. Cat Stevens obviously wrote many great songs, as well. Posted by Will N. on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 01:10am |
Casper, Posted by Chris F. on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 02:47am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 07:05am |
There were 6 inductees in the main performers category in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2017. It could happen again in 2019 because of the weak ballot. There were 7 in 2004. Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 08:17am |
CURRENT STANDINGS Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 08:34am |
The only nominees on the 2019 ballot I can see all the surviving black 50s-60s-70s R&B-Motown inductees voting for are The Zombies, Rufus and Chaka Khan, Janet Jackson. Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 08:39am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 09:57am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 10:02am |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 10:02am |
“You mean from the people who own the Rock Hall Pod Twitter? I notice that too. Bet they vote for Janet lol they talked about her a few weeks ago.” Posted by The Dude on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 12:15pm |
Ben, Posted by richie on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 12:44pm |
There are 5 solo acts on the ballot. If all 5 of them get enough votes, we'll get 7 inductees because there will be enough time to squeeze in all their acceptance speeches and performances before midnight. Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 13:02pm |
Chris F, I'm making the point that earlier nominations groups were STRONGER in terms of name recognition, generally. And, obviously, there were just so many A-list names with unimpeachable credentials being inducted into the early 00s, etc. Posted by Casper on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 15:01pm |
BTW, I am really really looking forward to the Singles inductees this year and I believe they'll announce them with the actual inductees soon (which may include an NP or two that we didn't see coming). They can really clean up a lot of the 50s/60s backlog by backdooring a bunch of key artists that really don't have a prayer to get in via the ballot (and probably SHOULDN'T be on the ballot taken space from all these major 70s/80s/90s snubs). Posted by Casper on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 15:06pm |
BTW, who do you all think is the #1 name that has not been on a ballot that would have the easiest road to induction? Posted by Casper on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 15:10pm |
I like Casper's thinking. My 2 biggest snubs I felt this year were the Monkees and Bad Company, along with Depeche Mode. I am happy that the Cure is on the ballot for at least some recognition of new wave/pre-grunge alternative, but the cloudiness of their induction really makes me think the nom com is forever stuck in their incomprehensible bubble, nominating John Prine and seeming to only include Kraftwerk as a token instead of the slam dunk they should have been 5 years ago. Jethro Tull is another I think should be there without a thought. And what of the 80s pop scene that has a few giants but is otherwise silent? Whitney Houston needs to go so Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men and others can be included. Of course, this is predicated on Janet getting in this year, which even seems to have a hard time. Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 15:57pm |
Casper Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 16:36pm |
I understand votes are hard to predict. Can't go on the fan ballot because that's also unpredictable. We've seen people who made the top five but not necessarily get in. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 16:52pm |
Fan vote update: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 16:55pm |
Timothy, Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 16:57pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 16:58pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 17:03pm |
The Belmonts should go in in 2019 as an addendum to Dion, and Wings, The Silver Bullet Band, and the Revolution should go in in the sidemen category (musical excellence). Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 22:30pm |
Imagine Todd Rundgren and Brian Eno in the same room! Posted by Roy on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 22:33pm |
@ Roy Posted by The Dude on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 23:02pm |
I'd rather see Dion And The Belmonts put in as a separate group, and get Dion a second induction. Posted by Philip on Friday, 11/9/2018 @ 23:56pm |
The Belmonts should go in in 2019 as an addendum to Dion, and Wings, The Silver Bullet Band, and the Revolution should go in in the sidemen category (musical excellence)." Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11/10/2018 @ 00:48am |
My guess for inductees: Posted by Classic Rock on Saturday, 11/10/2018 @ 14:05pm |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 11/11/2018 @ 08:33am |
The problem is with voting is that people tend to focus on record sales and popularity instead of influentially. Influentially should be first when it comes to voting. That's why Kraftwerk and (sadly) Radiohead are low on the fan vote. People only know them as "that weird german band the rock hall keeps on putting in" and "that band that has creep." People don't bother looking into their discography or the band's history. Luckily the fan vote dosen't matter. Posted by Michael on Sunday, 11/11/2018 @ 11:52am |
Michael Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11/11/2018 @ 12:09pm |
Ben, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/11/2018 @ 12:44pm |
Michael, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/11/2018 @ 14:21pm |
^ Or Todd Rundgren in the place of either Rage and Prine. I'm really more excited for Todd. I want him in as bad as I want Janet! Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/11/2018 @ 14:22pm |
IMO, there is multiple other bands that deserve to get in before Def Leppard. Posted by Michael on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 02:16am |
Todd's now 80k votes from getting #2. Was 82-83k for the longest but Stevie continues to stall on the fan vote. Heck, both Todd and the Zombies could drop her to #4 (okay that may be pushing it a bit). But what an interesting development on the fan vote, huh? Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 04:24am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 07:10am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 13:35pm |
Philip posted his Five I's today! Posted by Follower on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 14:25pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 17:11pm |
Ben, Posted by richie on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 18:46pm |
Richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 19:30pm |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 19:38pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 20:48pm |
I've stayed consistent with who I expect to get in, but I do like Richie's thinking for the most part. I just can't understand why the nom com, whereas they screwed the pooch repeatedly this year by omitting a metal act or prog most notably, isn't giving Kraftwerk the "John Prine" treatment here, as they really are the best example of someone on this ballot who opened up a significant genre in electronic music, and really are the godfathers of that genre. If nothing else comes of this, if they only want to induct token acts to appease certain fans (which can be argued literally for almost any of the favored acts to be inducted), the biggest right they can remedy with this "critics ballot" is to put in Kraftwerk and show at least that they recognize the brand of music that is basically the soccer of the music world (unquestionably the most popular everywhere outside of North AMerica). Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 11/12/2018 @ 21:50pm |
They only nominate acts like Kraftwerk to prove a point (same with Prine to be honest). These artists are very indelible to music and if life was fair, instead of ANNOUNCING nominees, just announce all fifteen of them as inductees. But this nom com doesn't do that. It's frustrating! Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/13/2018 @ 00:16am |
I will be disappointed, but not altogether surprised, if John Prine gets in as a performer. He is one of those that comes out of nowhere just to get nominated, seemingly just because one member of this elitist club has a bee in their bonnet. I'm very happy J Geils isn't in the running this year, I hadn't mentioned that yet. I hope, in this instance, I'm wrong. However, we all know this nom com...and the "what the hell" picks are not uncommon Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 11/13/2018 @ 01:19am |
John Prine won't be a bad inductee pick. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/13/2018 @ 01:26am |
And I don't mean to take away from Darlene but her induction took away any hopes of getting the Crystals in. That's why it's a WTF pick... not because I don't like Darlene (I really dig her) but the truth's the truth lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/13/2018 @ 01:27am |
To me, there are two names that would be bad inductee picks and I would be very disappointed if they got in this year, and they are Stevie Nicks and John Prine, I just don't think either of them deserves induction IMO, I really think that their spots should have gone to Pat Benatar/Tina Turner and Willie Nelson/Gram Parsons because they're all much more deserving of induction than Nicks and Prine IMO. Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/13/2018 @ 01:44am |
K-Dawg was thinking about the 'Kraftwerk Conundrum': Seminal band that started a whole new genre that you (the voter) personally hate. Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 11/13/2018 @ 07:30am |
I think Devo will get in before Kraftwerk. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/13/2018 @ 17:40pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 07:45am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 08:41am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 11:38am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 11:41am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 11:45am |
I always have seen the Laura Nyro induction as a bit of a sham. Her closest comparison, though not by career heights, is Carole King. If the Hall could not find King worthy of a performer induction then why have Nyro find a spot so easily? Add to that the fact she was the least qualified act of her year and it makes you wonder how she was enshrined. Nyro was a wonderful writer, and had a beautiful earthy sound to her voice. Still, she is not worthy of induction. Even as a songwriter she is not a solid pick. She is a part of the story of modern music, but a Hall of Fame should seperate the legends and icons from the rest of the crowd. Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 13:28pm |
Chris Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 13:51pm |
Chris F., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 15:15pm |
John Prine is not thinking of the Hall of Fame, it looks. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 18:15pm |
@ Tim Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 18:22pm |
@Dude, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 19:24pm |
Dude and Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 11/14/2018 @ 20:48pm |
The Zombies have a few things going for them. They were a talented band. They had a couple hit songs. They have one of the most famous quoted lines ever from "Time of the Season" (Who's Your Daddy). Unfortunately for them, they are just a band who tailed the Brit Invasion and for some reason are a pet project for one or more of the Nom Com members. Herman's Hermits and the Monkees are 2 of the few remaining late 60s acts who need a long hard look ahead of the Zombies; alas, Chris and many others are right, the Zombies will get in on merit that is not quite deserved Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 02:55am |
Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 03:27am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 06:11am |
In October, 2012 the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Nominating Committee had sought to correct previous oversights and had finally nominated Rush to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame after nearly 14 years of eligibility. Then everything had been getting better with the long overdue inductions of Yes in 2017 and The Moody Blues In 2018- finally the “holy trinity” of prog had been inducted. Then October, 2018 came along and the “prog” community who had expected Jethro Tull, Procol Harum and Duran Duran to receive a nomination had been severely disappointed. Instead of any of those aforementioned bands, we had been left Roxy Music, Kraftwerk, The Zombies and Todd Rundgren to represent “progdom.” To say the least most of us had been extremely disappointed. The good rapport that the Rock Hall had generated had nearly been erased in one stultifying move. If we include Radiohead, which I am quite reluctant to do, then we have five less than satisfactory representatives of our favorite genre. Even so, I do believe that these 5 artists merit induction. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 09:57am |
The Rock Hall roundtable hears Questlove is trying to get Don Cornelius into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They better. Dick Clark was inducted 29 years earlier (1990). Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 11:37am |
@Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 11:39am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 11:56am |
https://www.canadaswalkoffame.com/induction-year/2018 Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 12:46pm |
Here are my final and official predictions for this year's inductees (if six): Posted by richie on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 13:25pm |
roy Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 13:28pm |
THEY ARE ALL IN ALREADY! Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 13:57pm |
IF THEY INDUCT 7: THIS IS WHO I HOPE GOT THE TOP VOTES Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 14:03pm |
Roy Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 14:09pm |
They nominated just fifteen this year so it's a good chance they'll induct six people this year. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 14:36pm |
Roy, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 14:37pm |
richie, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 15:51pm |
Ben, Posted by richie on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 16:47pm |
It still baffles me that in 2018, with the 1990s becoming available that we are stuck with 3 female nominees on this ballot. That the concept of having 2 inducted would make this year stand out among others. The idolatry of the 60s guy groups and the 70s rock band are far behind the Hall. Yet these ballots still act like a 1950s tour showing of their girl singer. Looking at articles words like "token" pops up far to many times when discussing the 3 females on the ballot. A shame since the 3 women on this ballot actually outshine many already inducted acts. I guess that may be the silver lining. The 3 women chosen to represent their styles are all beyond worthy. Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 17:42pm |
As much of a stink the Hall itself made about how women have been sadly undervalued in the Hall and one of them wanting Janet Jackson in, it'll be pathetic if by next month, they find a way to screw up still. But I feel they may finally make an exception and induct at least two women for 2019's class. "May" being the keyword lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 19:07pm |
Hmm. I have a theory that it is basically IMPOSSIBLE now for R&B/Hip Hop artists to get inducted unless it's their first ballot. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 19:23pm |
^ Forgot Public Enemy. Also first ballot. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 19:25pm |
@Casper, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 19:29pm |
AND she's coming off a headline-making year with new music, just finished her tour, earning a lot of industry awards, etc. That's the one big advantage over all fourteen other acts. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 19:31pm |
As I said, NWA was aided by an Oscar nominated, blockbuster film that was released just prior to them being voted in. That sort of thing goes beyond "she released a new album and has a big tour!" to the general voter. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 19:36pm |
Casper, Posted by Chris F. on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 21:37pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/15/2018 @ 22:51pm |
In October, 2012 the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Nominating Committee had sought to correct previous oversights and had finally nominated Rush to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame after nearly 14 years of eligibility. Then everything had been getting better with the long overdue inductions of Yes in 2017 and The Moody Blues In 2018- finally the “holy trinity” of prog had been inducted. Then October, 2018 came along and the “prog” community who had expected Jethro Tull, Procol Harum and Duran Duran to receive a nomination had been severely disappointed. Instead of any of those aforementioned bands, we had been left with Roxy Music, Kraftwerk, The Zombies and Todd Rundgren to represent “progdom.” To say the least most of us have been extremely disappointed. The good rapport that the Rock Hall had generated over the past several years had nearly evaporated in one stultifying move. If we include Radiohead, which I am quite reluctant to do, then we have five less than superlative representatives of our favorite genre. Even so, I do believe that these 5 artists merit induction. Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 01:40am |
The R&B groups and other Soul acts are not getting inducted because of 4 reasons. 1. Many of the HOF acts in that genre are dying out. They lose critical votes for Induction. 2. Some of those that are inducted in R&B are singular artists or singers when these Classic rock acts have 6 or 7 HOF members. That's an advantage to the Classic Rock Nominees. Just look at the number of Bon Jovi, Deep Purple, Fleetwood Mac,or Van Halen inducted compared to a Bill Withers or a Darlene Love. Voting time, that gives plenty of advantage to Classic Rock Acts. 3. Getting on the ballot itself. Obviously, a good R&B group can't get inducted if they are not on the ballot. The RRHOF might have to have more 2x nominee types on the ballot. Tina Turner (Solo) or bring back Ben E. King. The late Ben E. King was a FAV and popular singer of many. Maybe, putting a popular figure like a Lionel Richie or a Diana Ross on the ballot might break the ice. The Spinners were gaining traction a few cycles ago with good support and then haven't been selected again 4. The Elimination Theory. 2 or 3 R&B acts of similar success and talent eliminate each other on the ballot. Voters sprinkle their votes over several R&B artists where they can't get 1 to break through. I think this is happening with Chaka Khan. This time she's up against Janet and LL Cool J. These are some popular and successful stars. There's some that probably vote for all 3 but probably some pick Janet and some other artists. It's a vicious cycle for R&B. Not enough voters voting for the R&B artists since many HOF R&B groups have died or are a singular vote. That's difficult going up voters with 6 or 7 in these Classic Rock groups. As you have noticed, more Classic Rock groups are being inducted. Cheap Trick, The Cars, Steve Miller, KISS, etc. I'm curious if Lionel Richie or Tina Turner showed up on the ballot what would happen. KING Posted by KING on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 01:52am |
KING, Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 02:58am |
Enig, who is 'Sue'? Not picking up on that name. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 06:59am |
@K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 08:09am |
@King, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 08:15am |
PaulinKY, Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 09:48am |
Thank you, Enig, for the clarification. See her comments now! Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 11:13am |
King does make some valid points. Although I think it is also important to point out that older R&B acts in the Hall act just like those inducted "Classic" Rock bands do. They tend to not vote for the new voices. It is why this Hall is having a hell of a time bringing in acts debuting later. If Shirley Alston (Owens?) of The Shirelles turned in a ballot is she more likely to pick Janet Jackson or someone like The Zombie? One hailing from the same era, the other part of the same genre. Posted by Chris F. on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 13:30pm |
Chris, I saw LL Cool J at Lolla & it was one of the most enjoyable sets I saw that weekend. The man has star power. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 13:38pm |
Crossover votes for the R&B/Hip Hop artists could be real important. As in, votes from the voters that AREN'T pre-determined to vote for R&B/Hip Hop candidates. Posted by Casper on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 14:18pm |
Either y'all are predicting that or y'all just want some RACIAL HELLFIRE next month. LMAO. XD Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 21:28pm |
Interesting predictions here: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 21:43pm |
I still think that this year's inductees (if six) are going to be: Posted by richie on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 22:48pm |
Richie, the Hall is about how many names they can pack in the Hall. They're gonna be airing this at the Barclays Center. What better than to put Janet, Stevie and LL all in one sitting? Besides Janet and Stevie, I don't see no other act pulling in this weight. Not even Def Leppard. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/16/2018 @ 23:44pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 00:31am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 05:21am |
The fan poll ends Dec 9. Will they make the announcement later that week? Tuesdays & Thursdays seem to be when they make them. Posted by Mike on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 09:25am |
If I’m not mistaken, the Hall annually reveal their classes a week before Christmas. Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 10:30am |
Mike, Posted by richie on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 10:31am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 10:39am |
Edit: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 10:41am |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 11:02am |
Let's rate them on a four point scale based on induction worthiness. Clearly Deserving, Borderline: Deserving, Borderline: Not Deserving and Not Deserving. Posted by Casper on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 16:29pm |
Anyone else see the new verification for the daily fan vote? They're getting pretty ridiculous and annoying to count 5 individual votes..."select the images with cars" Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 17:05pm |
In October, 2012 the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Nominating Committee had sought to correct previous oversights and had finally nominated Rush to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame after nearly 14 years of eligibility. As we are most certainly aware, once Rush had been nominated then they had been inducted immediately afterwards. Then everything had been getting better with the long overdue inductions of Yes in 2017 and The Moody Blues In 2018- finally the “holy trinity” of prog (Rush, Yes and The Moody Blues) had been inducted. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 18:16pm |
Casper, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 18:41pm |
Eng Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 18:48pm |
Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 19:01pm |
Clearly deserving: The Cure, Def Leppard, Devo, Janet Jackson, Kraftwerk, LL Cool J, MC5, Radiohead, Rage Against The Machine, Roxy Music, Rufus With Chaka Khan, Todd Rundgren, The Zombies. Posted by richie on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 19:21pm |
Not to several million people. This has gone way too far. Enugh is enough. Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 19:42pm |
Y'all still here? Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 19:46pm |
Timmy Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 19:53pm |
Are you going back to your playpen? Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 19:55pm |
Zuzu, Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 20:25pm |
What makes you think you are constucive? Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 20:39pm |
You speak for the mouse in your pocket? Rock and roll transcends all genres. There are deservedly some early 60s acts not in, but it's time for the 80s and 90s. Don't worry, maybe Tommy James will get a song nomination. Sorry couldn't resist ;) Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 21:01pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 21:33pm |
I think that John Prine will get a backdoor induction via the Ahmet Ertegun Award for Lifetime Achievement (aka Non-Performer) this year for his songwriting, I just don't think that he deserves a Performer induction so I think that the Hall made a big mistake by nominating him as a Performer this year, he's far more remembered for being an influential songwriter/composer, so I think that he's more likely to get inducted via the backdoor via the Ahmet Ertegun Award for Lifetime Achievement (aka Non-Performer) this year for his songwriting rather than get an induction as a Performer. Posted by richie on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 22:01pm |
richie, Posted by Chris F. on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 22:44pm |
Sorry you can not stand the truth. Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 23:50pm |
Chris F., Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 00:24am |
@Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 00:27am |
@richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 00:29am |
No one's paying attention but Todd keeps rising up in votes on the fan vote. With less than three weeks left, y'all think he can get within striking distance of Stevie's numbers?! Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 03:23am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 06:21am |
Ben and Timothy, Posted by richie on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 10:49am |
Richie Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 15:05pm |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:26pm |
The Songwriter Hall of Fame splits itself into performer and non performer groups. Prine is listed as a Performer there. What will be odd, or sad truthfully, is if he manages to take Janet's spot in the Rock Hall this year and Mariah's spot in the Songwriters Hall. An induction of either into the two Halls opens the door for the other though. Interesting since Janet and Mariah have a mutual appreciation for each other. Posted by Chris F. on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:26pm |
@Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:27pm |
Also, Mariah has Missy Elliott also fighting for an induction so I could see them inducting Missy and Prine over Mariah. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:28pm |
Todd's now 76k votes away from Stevie. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:30pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:35pm |
@Chris F, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:38pm |
Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:40pm |
I think that John Prine is far more likely to get inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame this year than get inducted into the Rock Hall this year. Posted by richie on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 16:44pm |
Timothy, Posted by Chris F. on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 17:07pm |
Richie Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 19:10pm |
Zuzu, Posted by richie on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 19:33pm |
Ladies and gentlemen, at least two possible 2019 inductees taking a pic together: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 20:54pm |
Chris, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 20:56pm |
Good chance Janet might be one of the inductees: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 21:00pm |
Todd Rundgren is far more favored to step in the RRHOF than John Prine. Prine is more suited for the songwriters category. However, as previously stated, the voters have a mind numbing habit of bringing up out of the blue candidates who have no business being in the performer wing. Todd has done it as both a performer and an influential songwriter. On the surface, people may just remember 'Hello It's Me", but he epitomizes the 70s AM sound that only a few groups (Steely Dan the most notable) have gotten in so far. He is clearly one of the 5 or 6 most deserving IMO. Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 02:37am |
And, this is an irrelevant observation this year, but if Janet had already been in as she should be, Mariah very well might be on this list instead of her...after Janet and Whitney, she's the next great "diva" who awaits her rightful place in Cleveland.... Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 02:40am |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 02:59am |
WORST CASE SCENARIO Posted by Roy on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 08:34am |
That's why they need Todd, Janet, Def Leppard and Stevie there...we can take one of the "boring" picks and possibly add a sixth. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 10:31am |
Ugh, I meant to say "Freedom of Choice" for DEVO. LOL Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 10:35am |
Actually, My final and official predictions for this year's inductees (if six) are: Posted by richie on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 11:37am |
Roy, Posted by Philip on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 13:26pm |
Philip, how about Patti doing 'Sister Anne'? Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 13:30pm |
Philip, how about Patti doing 'Sister Anne'? Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 13:31pm |
Philip, how about Patti doing 'Sister Anne'? Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 13:31pm |
Patti doing ANYTHING MC5 would be badass tbh. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 17:04pm |
Todd now 75k away from Stevie... wonder how close he can get to by December 9th? Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/19/2018 @ 17:06pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/20/2018 @ 07:04am |
The ones I mentioned are allll the Nominees that can get large Votes. But NOT all of those can get in. MC5 is NOT one of them that can even get Large Votes. The ones above Can. Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/20/2018 @ 10:24am |
My final and official predictions for this year's inductees (if six) are: Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/20/2018 @ 12:26pm |
@Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/20/2018 @ 13:10pm |
Darn, Timothy, don't you read my comments ;-) Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 11/20/2018 @ 15:07pm |
Paul, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/20/2018 @ 17:11pm |
My final and official predictions for this year's inductees (if six) are: Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/20/2018 @ 18:00pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 06:50am |
Understand, Timothy. I don't read em all either! Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 06:58am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 12:54pm |
73,605 votes now separates Stevie & Todd in the fan vote. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 12:59pm |
So Timothy, are you now saying Janet won't go in? The 5 you listed are a classic rock um, fanatic's wet dream. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 13:26pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 14:32pm |
I think you read it completely wrong, @K-Dawg, but it's understandable, this forum is not exactly one you can easily quote from lol Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 14:59pm |
E-Rockracy predicts Def Leppard, Janet, LL, Stevie, the Zombies and Radiohead to get inducted. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 15:05pm |
I actually think E-Rockracy's picks would be a great class. I'm really hoping The Cure get in, but not holding my breath on that one. I don't have a strong opinion either way on Stevie Nicks. While I agree that her solo career may not scream Hall worthy, I'm all for more women being inducted. And if Stevie being inducted opens the door for Tina Turner, Pat Benatar, The Go-Go's, etc., then I say put her in. Posted by Greg P. on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 15:42pm |
Apologies, Timothy lol. I'm fighting a bit of sickness and my brain is kind of fried right now. I am holding my hopes that at least the Cure gets in, so maybe we can have some semblance of a recognition of different and unexplored genres which are already long overdue to be in the Rock Hall Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 17:47pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 11/22/2018 @ 06:34am |
FINAL PREDICTION Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/22/2018 @ 07:59am |
THE 2019 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES Posted by Roy on Thursday, 11/22/2018 @ 08:17am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/22/2018 @ 09:58am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/22/2018 @ 10:04am |
@Roy, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/22/2018 @ 10:08am |
My final predictions for this year's inductees (if six) are The Cure, Def Leppard, Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, Todd Rundgren and The Zombies. All six of those acts that I just mentioned are the ones that I feel very strongly about and I really think that those six acts that I just mentioned (The Cure, Def Leppard, Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, Todd Rundgren and The Zombies) will be this year's induction class (if six). Posted by richie on Thursday, 11/22/2018 @ 10:34am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Friday, 11/23/2018 @ 05:21am |
As much as I love John Prine, I just don't think that he deserves a Performer induction, I just think that his nomination as a Performer this year was a wasted one and I really think that the Hall made a big mistake by nominating him as a Performer, he's far more remembered for being an influential songwriter/composer, his nomination as a Performer this year really should have went to one of the following acts: Posted by richie on Friday, 11/23/2018 @ 11:10am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/23/2018 @ 11:11am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 06:51am |
@ Ben Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 09:08am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 13:49pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 20:39pm |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 23:07pm |
Tom Lane's list is basically what my five inductees list is (Def Leppard, Janet, Stevie, Todd and the Zombies). And unless they change their mind, this might be the list next month. If a sixth, according to Tom, it's LL or Radiohead or Roxy Music being the sixth inductee... Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 23:10pm |
My final predictions for this year's inductees (if six) are: Posted by richie on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 01:04am |
richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 03:46am |
How the hell did Def Leppard drop to 7th place on FRL voting? Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 05:22am |
How the hell did Def Leppard drop to 7th place on FRL voting? Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 05:24am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 07:42am |
@Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 12:23pm |
@Roy, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 12:24pm |
Todd is now 69,888 votes away from Stevie. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 12:26pm |
It is interesting to read the discussions on who may vote for who, and all the reasons why, and everyone makes a lot of great points and analysis. One thing I am wondering and has not been mentioned much, is the factor of opportunities that are currently present. What I am getting at, is will the voters cast for an artist that may not be possibly nominated again for quite some time, and would that notion help artists like Roxy Music, John Prine, or maybe longshot Devo. Everybody knows that Radiohead is great enough and will be in sooner than later, so why not cast that vote for a deserving band or artist that someone has relentlessly pursued to get nominated. I'm sure there is a lot of effort involved in that process. Is this something that sometimes hurts the chances of Janet J., The Cure, or LL Cool J.? Will voters consider passing on a band like Radiohead, and make them wait, in favor of their more favorite underrated artist, that may not get another chance in the near future. Many, many great bands and performers have had to wait, or are still waiting. Just seems like this would be another variable to consider affecting the voting process and outcome. Posted by Will N. on Sunday, 11/25/2018 @ 22:16pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 05:34am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 12:10pm |
Todd and Stevie are now 68,738 votes from each other. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 12:13pm |
Neil Young is not as out of touch with more recent music like I imagine Clapton, Pete Townshend, and the guys in Pink Floyd would be. Posted by Donnie on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 16:54pm |
@ Posted by The Dude on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 17:13pm |
The "Todd" fans are cheating. The whole fan vote continues to be bogus. They're using a temporary email bot to generate a fake email address .... confirm it .... and vote. And then continue it daily. Posted by Marissa on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 17:36pm |
@Marissa, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 18:46pm |
MC Ren basically confirmed he voted for these five today: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 18:54pm |
I mean "accusing Janet of not being in the top five". Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 19:15pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 19:34pm |
I, for one, would love for your prediction to be right that the Cure, instead of Radiohead, will get in. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 22:47pm |
HOF nominee John Prine's latest album shot back to the top of iTunes after CBS Sunday Morning interview. http://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=314315&title=PRINE-TIME-TV Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 23:04pm |
The jj propaganda is getting old! Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 11/26/2018 @ 23:29pm |
No offense to Enig or others who Janet isn't their cup of tea, she is all but a shoo-in for the hall this time. I just can't believe the voters would whiff 2 years in a row on some of the biggest names who are needing to get in. I'd love to see the Cure or Todd Rundgren who are laughably overdue, but Janet is almost as guaranteed as the gentlemen from Sheffield...80s loud, 80s proud Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 02:20am |
Now that the voting days are counting down (12 days and counting), I feel I can finally give more honest thoughts on WHY I picked who I picked to go in the 2019 class, why some folks will not go in yet and why some should stop being nominated for good before they wind up like CHIC. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 02:50am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 05:36am |
K-Dawg Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 07:01am |
Of course, it is only my opinion, but who do I think will be inducted? Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 09:51am |
Who do I really want to see inducted from this list? Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 09:58am |
I think the only way R&CK could even benefit from a Hall of Fame INDUCTION is if a lot of the older R&B inductees were still ALIVE. It's a mistake to assume the only folks that would vote for Janet for example would be the younger HOF inductees and just them only... R&CK wouldn't benefit from a nonpartisan voting bloc, I don't think. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 10:21am |
@Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 10:23am |
Eng Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 10:29am |
Timmy Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 10:36am |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 11:05am |
Richie, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 13:44pm |
Timothy Pernell, Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 16:33pm |
Richie Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 16:58pm |
Zuzu, Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 17:15pm |
Zuzu, Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 17:25pm |
Richie Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 17:40pm |
Hi Zuzu, This is Richie's Mom replying back to you. Richie has already apologised to you for any disrespect you feel he has given you. It was never intended. Richie does however have the right to his opinions & many of his friends on Twitter agree with him. He respects now the fact that you have your opinions as well. He has never meant any harm towards you so can we please now just move on & not take time away from all who wish to post on this awesome site. Thank you & many blessings. Posted by richie on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 18:02pm |
Sherry isn't it Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 19:34pm |
Can we PLEASE get back on topic? o_O Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 20:10pm |
@ Tim Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 20:20pm |
Timmy Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 20:52pm |
DL (and the rest of the top six) benefited from the lack of populist U.S. rock acts because most of them were basically inserted to the Hall in quick succession. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 20:53pm |
Janet signs with the Paradigm Talent Agency. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 20:55pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 11/28/2018 @ 05:36am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy Pernell on Wednesday, 11/28/2018 @ 13:03pm |
richie, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 11/29/2018 @ 06:09am |
Ben, Posted by richie on Thursday, 11/29/2018 @ 10:24am |
Ben, Posted by richie on Thursday, 11/29/2018 @ 10:24am |
I'm figuring that it's hard to predict what can seriously happen. Prine may surprise me if he isn't inducted right away. That would mean an upset of some sort. This is probably the hardest list to predict who will go in. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 11/29/2018 @ 12:46pm |
There is one name that can keep Stevie from getting votes. This involves the anger of artist of holding their noses with nom com garbage. I think !!it may hit the fan. Start listening to what the artist that vote say. What others want do not really count at this point. Brown nosers with ballots will not turn the tide. Look at what has happened in the past. From things that the artist it is obvious that they think think the nom com is fudging figures. Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 11/29/2018 @ 13:07pm |
My predictions for the final inductees are as follows: Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 11/29/2018 @ 17:14pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by richie on Thursday, 11/29/2018 @ 19:41pm |
@K-Dawg: Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/30/2018 @ 02:00am |
Of course, it is only my opinion, but who do I think will be inducted? Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 11/30/2018 @ 09:50am |
Might as well give my 2 cents. Think there will be 5, plus the 'Musical Excellence' one. Posted by paul in KY on Friday, 11/30/2018 @ 10:19am |
Janet's less than 13k from 200k votes. Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/30/2018 @ 13:38pm |
My final and official predictions for this year's inductees (if six) are: Posted by richie on Friday, 11/30/2018 @ 13:42pm |
My final and official predictions for this year's inductees (if six) are: Posted by richie on Friday, 11/30/2018 @ 14:40pm |
richie, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 06:57am |
It is now December and in slightly less than 2 weeks, the Rock Hall fan vote will be finished. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 07:34am |
It is now December and in slightly less than 2 weeks, the Rock Hall fan vote will be finished. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 07:41am |
Now that it's December, I can finally be confident about who I think will enter the Hall. I've done this over and over again but before, I wasn't entirely too sure of. Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 14:27pm |
timmy Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 15:10pm |
Y'all are aware that this can end up being another classic rock class, right? Posted by Casper on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 16:05pm |
Casper Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 16:56pm |
That is does not mean superior if black - that is so racist. Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 17:00pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 17:14pm |
Fan vote update (top six): Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 17:17pm |
You are a sad old woman & no one gives a f*ck what you think. Posted by Paul in KY on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 21:11pm |
Paul Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 21:42pm |
So guys, I got a question, if you have to pick just three of the artists who are in the top 5 who you think the Hall will pick, which one will it be (and that's besides Def Leppard)? Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/1/2018 @ 22:47pm |
Lost in the shuffle of all this who should vs who will get in, on a personal note, I am beyond excited that Def Leppard will taste the Cleveland champagne. For me, Hysteria is the album that really introduced me to an electronic sound for heavy metal, and "Rocket" "Pour Some Sugar On Me", and "Love Bites", in particular, were staples of school dances and good times. They get thrown around being lumped as just an "arena rock" band, but they justifiably are heavy metal, they are hard rock, and they are badazz. I've already mentioned the determination of Rick Allen to come all the way back after losing his arm to become one of the best drummers of his era, handicap or no handicap. The only knock is they seem to have lost their edge as the 90s hit, but they've never stopped touring, and they've never stopped trying. Not the most popular opinion, but Def Leppard belongs. Posted by K-Dawg on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 00:59am |
I'm with you on that, K-Dawg. Posted by Timothy on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 01:43am |
My personal predictions are: Posted by The_Claw on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 03:36am |
To answer Timothy's question, my guess is that Def Leppard, Stevie Nicks, and the Zombies would have the best chances, although I think Todd Rungren is also likely for induction too. Posted by Donnie on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 03:42am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 06:08am |
Donnie, Posted by Timothy on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 11:57am |
Timothy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 12:42pm |
Enig, Posted by Timothy on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 14:22pm |
KING'S FINAL RRHOF INDUCTEES 2018-2019 CYCLE PREDICTIONS. Posted by KING on Sunday, 12/2/2018 @ 19:35pm |
Timothy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 04:34am |
It is now December 3, and in slightly less than 1 week, the Rock Hall fan vote will be finished. Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 05:37am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 06:10am |
When is the last day to vote in the official poll? Posted by Roy on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 08:15am |
December has arrived! Posted by Roy on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 08:16am |
Four things I’m waiting for this month: The Winners of the Rock Hall Ballot, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for Nintendo Switch, New AFI EP/Mini Album, and Christmas. Posted by The Dude on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 09:14am |
One week left for official ballots, 6 days left for the fan vote. The announcement will be here before we know it. I always say the nominee announcement is like Christmas (you don't know what's going to be under the tree) and the inductee announcement is like the Super Bowl (you know who's playing, now you find out who will win). This year is so wide open that the announcement will actually be a genuine surprise. In previous years, it was easy to kind of pick out who would get in. Assuming the tradition of Fan Vote winner being inducted continues, Def Leppard seems like the only certainty. I can't wait for next week!! Posted by Greg P. on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 09:41am |
So when are they going to announce the inductees? Posted by Follower on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 10:25am |
Follower, Posted by Timothy on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 10:58am |
Timothy, Posted by Greg P. on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 11:32am |
Greg, Posted by Timothy on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 14:17pm |
Timothy, Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 14:42pm |
Have they listed which members of each band would be inducted? Posted by Follower on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 21:42pm |
Follower, Yes they did. I don't know where it's listed though, although I know all 8 members of Def Leppard would be included for one. With so many single person acts nominated, there isn't much mystery this year though. Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 12/3/2018 @ 23:26pm |
Follower, Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/4/2018 @ 00:04am |
IF you go to the Rock Hall's website, they have bio pages for each of the nominees. On the page it shows the members who are nominated. Posted by Greg P. on Tuesday, 12/4/2018 @ 08:41am |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 12/4/2018 @ 09:33am |
Paul, Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/4/2018 @ 11:04am |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 12/4/2018 @ 20:42pm |
If Tim is right, 7 members of the Def ones will be included, according to the bio. Vivian Campbell is indeed among them, as he should be ;) Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 12/4/2018 @ 21:40pm |
Enig, Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 00:18am |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 01:20am |
I think you hinted at it. Which craft were you? Were you a union member? Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 01:27am |
Philip, Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 02:26am |
I Voted in the official Fan Vote. I voted last night for Def Leppard,Stevie Nicks,John Prine, Todd Rundgren and the Zombies. But this morning just now I voted for 4 the same and Roxy Music instead of Todd R. I wanted to give support to Roxy Music. They could use the help. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 05:51am |
Philip, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 10:02am |
Future Rock Legends Predicts the 2019 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 12:10pm |
Future Rock Legends Predicts the 2019 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 12:12pm |
Roy Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 12:29pm |
It would be a travesty for Janet to be left off. That roster of inductees looks like another classic rock ballot type. The last thing I want to see is the closeminded "Rock only" fans getting their wind and uttering their "Good job, next kick out all rap/pop/r&b because it's not rock" rant. I'm really annoyed that they might be putting in a 2 hit wonder that was more or less a footnote on the British invasion over a pop star who has sold more albums and been more influential on the pop side WITH some rock elements and at the same time, while it shouldn't be a token thing, there need to be more African American women in the Hall, and she definitely belongs. Sorry I am too lazy to paragraph this ;) Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 13:10pm |
K-Dawg Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 13:40pm |
Even if Janet doesn’t have enough votes from the voting body, she will get in by the Nom Com’s/Management’s choice (See Nina Simone). Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 13:56pm |
Dude Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 14:16pm |
@ Zuzu Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 14:41pm |
The Dude, Posted by Nick on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 15:29pm |
@ Nick Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 16:12pm |
Frustrating, Dude, as they've had over 30 years to get the old stuff in, and are long overdue to pay much more attention to the 80s. The 90s are becoming backlogged as well. Bad Company and The Monkees are 2 of my "classic rock" bands I feel are long overdue, but at some point, the majority of the ballot should be bands from the later decades. We are a scant 7 years away until the 2000s acts start becoming eligible. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 16:42pm |
I wonder if the guy who runs this website has a ballot. He has to have been noticed by the Hall. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 16:54pm |
All one has to do is go back to FRL archives to see who they picked last year. LOL Posted by Timothy on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 16:56pm |
Just for anyone wondering, these were the FRL's 2018 picks: Posted by Timothy on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 17:05pm |
They also got two wrong for 2016's induction list, one of which included Janet. Posted by Timothy on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 17:10pm |
Dude Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 17:14pm |
K-Dawg Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 17:20pm |
I am not the one slinging insults at people and their intelligence. You view your "rock n roll" because of the era you grew up in. Don't be myopic and realize that the RRHOF is very, VERY diverse, as it should be. The 80s was as important to some as your precious 60s was to you. Zuzu, your post is borderline incomprehensible. Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 18:03pm |
With the Cars, Bon Jovi, and Dire Straits now in, that should marked as the Hall’s acceptance with the 80’s. Def Leppard and Janet will make it, and I’m also hoping for the Cure as well to keep the New Wave train going. If not, then I’ll take Todd since he did jumped on that bandwagon other than prog. Posted by The Dude on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 19:01pm |
The Dude, Posted by Timothy on Wednesday, 12/5/2018 @ 19:49pm |
Since folks are wondering, I thought I'd give an update: the rough draft is done. I'll proofread it hopefully sometime in the next couple days when I can keep my eyes awake and not add an endless string of a single character ("fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff") from nodding off while I type. Meanwhile, goodnight one and all. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 00:17am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 03:53am |
@ Ben Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 08:57am |
*they’re not in the Hall yet. Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 09:02am |
Dude, not to disagree with your sentiment at all, but Radiohead has 3 songs ("Creep" "High and Dry" "Karma Police"). Compare that to the darlings of the nom com the Zombies, who have 2. Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 10:52am |
@ K-Dawg Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 11:14am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 11:16am |
'Paranoid Android' also a well known song by them. Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 11:54am |
Who is everyone's "sleeper" pick? Is there someone not being named that has a good chance to sneak in under the radar? John Prine seems to be a dark horse for sure, I really wish Kraftwerk would get a look--as a performer, not a song/music excellence nod. Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 13:12pm |
For me, a 'sleeper' pick would be Roxy Music. Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 13:50pm |
Roxy Music is my sleeper pick too. Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 14:08pm |
Roxy Music is mine's. Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 15:42pm |
Philip, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 15:53pm |
If nothing else, it's the best chance he's had since getting nominated, imo. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 15:59pm |
Guys, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 15:59pm |
Philip, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 16:02pm |
I gave him a 50-50 shot, he was the sixth seed, and they did induct six that year, so it was a correct prediction on my part. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 16:30pm |
Most people saw it as a near absolute certainty. Same for Nina Simone. I don't think an A-level black candidate can NOT get in. I mean, how many ballots do you really need to be on when there's like 15-21 names on the ballot? To finish in the top five or six could mean just getting like 38% of the vote or whatever. And someone like 2Pac or Nina Simone, essentially ends up on every critic's and black person's ballot. Game over. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 16:48pm |
Hmm, that's actually a good question. Someone said Nina Simone was the most voted of the 2018 class... Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 17:01pm |
She finally did it. Janet Jackson now has over 200,000 fan votes on the Rock Hall fan vote... Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 17:03pm |
Well, we know that the following names must have done pretty well in the 2018 voting which is why they are back for 2019. Judas Priest was said to have done horribly in the balloting and isn't back for that reason, so I really doubt anybody would be re-nominating candidates that did poorly in the prior year. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 18:58pm |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 22:04pm |
Ben, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 22:34pm |
In all fairness, Radiohead is the shakiest of the "sure things" I seeded. I only seeded them 3% more sure than Janet, and originally had Roxy seeded #4. I just don't see a class where both Stevie and Janet get in, and I'm having a hard time believing Janet will get in and Stevie doesn't. I wish I had more faith in the voting bloc, but I don't. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 23:22pm |
Philip, Posted by Timothy on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 01:35am |
One thing about Joe Elliott: he's a humble cat. As humble as Prine! Posted by Timothy on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 02:19am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 02:47am |
Ben, Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 03:10am |
Timothy, I'm of the same opinion as you when it comes to the four "locks" that most people are predicting. As in, I'm expecting Def Leppard/Rundgren/Zombies and thinking Nicks will be comfortably shut out (even if there's six inductees, etc.) Posted by Casper on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 03:41am |
K Dawg, Posted by Ben on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 05:16am |
IMO, Stevie has a better solo career than Sting. Not a whole lot better, but (to me) definitely/measurably better. Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 07:39am |
It is now December 7, and in slightly more than 2 days, the Rock Hall fan vote will be finished. Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 09:47am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 12:22pm |
It's very frustrating to hear the words "next time", but moreso for new wave. Time after time, Depeche Mode has been denied, and according to some prognosticating, The Cure may suffer the same fate. Much as Enig is about prog, and he is right about it being ignored for so long, I want to see the new wave bands, the forefathers of grunge, get their due. Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Green Day are in; they wouldn't have broken through as easily were it not for Depeche Mode, The Cure, and the other bands that set the scene for rock not having to be all about head banging and leather and big hair. Posted by K-Dawg on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 13:08pm |
OK, it's gonna be December 9th soon and the fan vote ends after 11:59 p.m. All ballot votes will come in that Monday afterwards. Posted by Timothy on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 19:25pm |
2019 Nominees And Inductees. Posted by KING on Friday, 12/7/2018 @ 21:19pm |
King, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 06:37am |
King, Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 11:40am |
Charles Crossley just said something very interesting on his Twitter, he said, of the supposed 1,000 who are given a ballot, only 250 of those ballots are returned! And since this list is more critic favorites than populists, I wonder what change that will do for some of the nominees. That's why I'm skeptical now of Stevie's chances. It's also possible if this is true, the Cure may have more than a shot too... this is gonna be really interesting! Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 11:45am |
King, Posted by Ben on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 11:52am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 11:58am |
Most of the predictions from the Hall watchers are almost simultaneously predicting two women will enter the Hall at the same time. If it so happens that both Janet Jackson and Stevie Nicks are inducted, it would be the first time in 26 years that two women were inducted at the same time as performers. But it depends on how strong their numbers are overall. Many are predicting Stevie to be smooth-sailing while wondering about Janet's chances. I would say it's kinda unpredictable with Stevie than I thought initially. We'll see what happens! If this comes true, then watch the Hall go "see, the Year of the Women, we inducted two women, you happy?" Lol Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 12:11pm |
Since the Nom Com will start counting the votes and make their final decisions tomorrow before they reveal our newest class, I’m in a mood to talk about a band that doesn’t have their own FRL page but should to kill some time. Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 12:37pm |
Breaking down the years of when women got in the Hall over the years: Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 12:49pm |
I might be mistaken, but I think you missed Chrissy Hynde with the Pretenders. Circumstantial but still underrepresented. And the one member of the Talking Heads? Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 12:57pm |
@ Tim Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 13:18pm |
Timothy, Posted by richie on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 13:47pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 13:53pm |
I miscounted, 57. Janet could make it 58 if inducted. Stevie is already inducted as a member of Fleetwood Mac. Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 14:27pm |
1996 - Maureen Tucker, Velvet Underground Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 14:50pm |
Forgot about her, thanks, The_Claw. So that's 58. Janet would make it 59 then but that's still a LOW number. Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 16:37pm |
Timothy, Posted by Steve Z on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 16:56pm |
Steve Z, Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 18:06pm |
OK, correct number is 65. Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 18:40pm |
All due respect, the Queen of Fleetwood Mac is Christine McVie. Stevie Nicks is secondary, but a much more noted singles star, relatively speaking ;) Posted by K-Dawg on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 20:39pm |
K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 21:03pm |
@ Timothy, The total number of women inducted would be 67, when you add Ellie Greenwich and Cynthia Weil to your list, both from 2010 for songwriting. And were previously mentioned by Steve Z, here, and by Aaron O. on the Janet Jackson page. And great work on that list.. Posted by Will N. on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 23:28pm |
If that stat about only 200 of the 1000 voters voting is true, maybe we should take away ballot restrictions. Mike Stroller, Art Rupe, Dave Bartholomew, everyone from Sex Pistols, Axl Rose, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, and severl P-Funk members probably don't use their voting privliges, so why not take it away from them so only people who care about the institution bother to vote! Posted by Follower on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 00:25am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 07:10am |
Agree with K-Dawg. Christie McVie is the top dog in The Mac. Posted by Paul in KY on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 08:15am |
Ben, Posted by Timothy on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 10:22am |
I'll be honest here, I just can't see the Rock Hall inducting two women in the Performers category in the same year, I just can't, I think that Janet Jackson will be the sole token female representative this year, I think that Stevie Nicks will be snubbed this year. Posted by richie on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 10:48am |
It is now December 9, and tonight, the Rock Hall fan vote will finally be finished. Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 10:50am |
Not surprised that Chuck D is going for Rage Against the Machine and LL Cool J. Probably think Janet has it in the bag (since he doesn't mention her, I imagine he voted for her lol) but for him to push for RATM and LL at this late rate doesn't bode well for either act, does it? Posted by Timothy on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 12:52pm |
lock John Prine Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 19:08pm |
King Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 19:20pm |
Timmy Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 12/9/2018 @ 19:22pm |
It will definitely be interesting to see what happens when the inductees are announced in 4 days. I'd like to take a moment and recognize all the great posters that bring a vast wealth of knowledge and opinion to such a diverse subject. By and large, this group is more civilized than millions of other netgroups or message boards all over the Internet. I'm glad that people can agree to disagree, or recognize others' valid points; it seems lost on today's Internet. That said, I stand by my earlier predictions and hope the RRHOF will finally begin the process of the 80s and 90s becoming the predominant genre as we prepare for the 2000s. I know my opinion is not everyone's, but good luck to all and this really is my favorite time of year from a musical standpoint. Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 02:30am |
K-Dawg, Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 06:16am |
The poll has closed and I didn't get a final screen shot! Posted by Roy on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 08:13am |
Enig, Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 10:29am |
I wonder why the fan vote total was so low compared to last year. Maybe last year had bigger names? Posted by Follower on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 14:50pm |
I wonder why the fan vote total was so low compared to last year. Maybe last year had bigger names? Posted by Follower on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 14:50pm |
@ Follower Posted by The Dude on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 15:42pm |
Last year and this year are mostly garbage. Fans do not decide. minor Brits that had little to no cred or inf will get more votes. Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 16:05pm |
Zuzu, Posted by Ben on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 17:31pm |
I predict that NO '90s band will be inducted this year and there are only two of them (Radiohead and Rage). There are three '80s bands (Def Leppard, The Cure and Devo), one '70s band (Kraftwerk) and the other two are '60s (Zombies and MC5). The other seven are solo artists from various eras ('70s and '80s). Posted by Timothy on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 17:33pm |
Timothy, Posted by richie on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 18:15pm |
This could be the year for Bernie Taupin! Posted by Roy on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 22:36pm |
Are you saying that because of the article that implied a non-performer would be inducted? Posted by Follower on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 22:55pm |
Are you saying that because of the article that implied a non-performer would be inducted? Posted by Follower on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 22:56pm |
What do I think? I like Richie's predictions better than my own, except that the Zombies should be replaced with another 60s band more deserving, but none are on the ballot, so... Posted by K-Dawg on Monday, 12/10/2018 @ 23:10pm |
My final list of who WILL get in remains the last: Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 00:33am |
@ Follower, Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 02:39am |
@ Follower, Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 02:39am |
@ Follower, Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 02:39am |
K-Dawg Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 05:35am |
I always liked Don Cornelius a lot better than Dick Clark & Soul Train was a much better show (IMO) than Bandstand. Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 06:58am |
Timothy, Posted by Ben on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 06:59am |
Paul Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 08:19am |
Zuzu, Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 12:32pm |
K-Dawg Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 13:01pm |
Def Leppard is hardly some major lock, even if I have them #2 on my 2019 guess list. I'd give The Zombies about a 90% chance and Def Leppard maybe a 65% chance. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 15:52pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 16:46pm |
Ben, Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 16:48pm |
Honestly though, I hope this year, we'll see more early influence inductees like Roy Brown and Wynonie Harris, two artists who arguably started rock and roll as we know it (not Ike Turner; I don't consider "Rocket 88" a "rock and roll" song. Sam Phillips was a snake charmer for the most part). Why they haven't gotten in, I don't even know! Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 16:51pm |
I'm just not seeing any reason the critics would toss votes over to Def Leppard. That automatically hurts them big time. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 17:12pm |
*nominating comittee Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 17:13pm |
I'm going to post my final and official predictions for this year's inductees (if six) one last time and they are: Posted by richie on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 17:23pm |
Metallica is hardly the same sound as Def Leppard, but they definitely could be considered hair metal in a lesser degree. Posted by K-Dawg on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 17:44pm |
Casper, Posted by TImothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 18:07pm |
Casper, Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 18:11pm |
Timothy, Posted by richie on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 18:34pm |
Timothy, Posted by richie on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 18:34pm |
Richie, Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 19:35pm |
Timothy, Posted by richie on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 19:52pm |
The inductees are going to leak tonight or tomorrow. Something tells me that. Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 20:43pm |
Casper, Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 20:45pm |
*rest of the class of 2018 was guitar bands, not ballot. Sorry Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 20:48pm |
Yeah, it would be weird to see Def Leppard missing after Bon Jovi and Journey made it considering those bands had even less critical acclaim. Would they be one of the top five acts chosen by critics? Vs. Kraftwerk, Radiohead, The Cure, Roxy Music, John Prine, Todd Rundgren, The Zombies, and Janet Jackson? Not likely (although I know Chuck Eddy was Def Leppard's biggest critical champion and he's on the Voting Committee.) But you could say that Bon Jovi and Journey got no critical support either and they still made it (I think Def Leppard has more critical support than The Moody Blues or Chicago who got in recently too.) They did make the Rolling Stone greatest albums list when I doubt those others did except for maybe Days of Future Passed. Not that Rolling Stone nearly matters as much as people think it does when it comes to the Rock Hall anyway since I know they love The Cure and The Smiths too and they're still waiting... Posted by Sean on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 21:43pm |
Bill Wyman on Stevie Nicks' possible induction if she's announced as one of them Thursday: Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 22:04pm |
Sean, Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 22:09pm |
Timmy Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 12/11/2018 @ 22:17pm |
https://www.rockhall.com/class-2019-nominees Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 00:26am |
I just want to say as we approach the official announcement that I feel the ones with the most chance are Def Leppard, John Prine and Todd Rundgren and the Zombies. Here again is my full list of predictions for 2019. Posted by Ben on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 07:36am |
My predictions for this year's inductees are Posted by MarkTesla on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 08:45am |
It is now December 12, and in less than two days,, the Rock Hall will announce the 2019 inductees. Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 10:00am |
What the fizzityuck was that thing Thom Yorke just tweeted? I guess that means Radiohead is in. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 19:26pm |
Better yet, why did FRL retweet it? It had nothing to do with the HOF. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 19:44pm |
I really don't care who gets inducted, as long as The Zombies is among those recognized. The devoted fan base, the sold out concerts and the fact that they are still recording new music should be good enough reasons for them to get this honor. Posted by dan on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 19:47pm |
Well, you shouldn't have to worry. I've never felt an induction was MORE likely for someone than The Zombies (excluding no-brainer artists that were on the ballot for the first time). Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 20:11pm |
Seems like they could have informed Radiohead of being inducted early since they're on the other side of the pond. Get it done before the end of the workday Cleveland-time. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 20:13pm |
Who usually leaks the inductees? I believe i heard that every year the inductees get leaked somehow. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 21:02pm |
Probably a news source. I'm guessing several news sources have the list already and are going to post the articles online early. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 21:06pm |
Is it bad that I'm looking for leaks instead of waiting lol Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 21:12pm |
It might just be a random post... Posted by Timothy on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 21:22pm |
You've got about 11 hours left max. You can wait. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 21:22pm |
The Hall does have precedent of electing bands that want nothing to do with it. See the Sex Pistols and the "piss stain" incident... Posted by K-Dawg on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 21:36pm |
Since the GIF that Thom Yorke posted ends with Paddington Bear being in the Hall, perhaps that's what he's trying to say about Radiohead. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 21:41pm |
Since the GIF that Thom Yorke posted ends with Paddington Bear being in the Hall, perhaps that's what he's trying to say about Radiohead. Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 21:41pm |
K-Dawg Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 22:02pm |
I hope Radiohead gets in. They more than enough deserve to get in. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 22:08pm |
OMG. Think I just discovered a leak for reals. Let me check this out. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:01pm |
Yep. If you use this URL Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:03pm |
Zombies are in. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:03pm |
The Cure are in. Janet Jackson is NOT. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:04pm |
Kraftwerk actually works! Wow. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:05pm |
LL Cool J does not work. MC5 does not work. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:07pm |
Rage Against The Machine does NOT work. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:09pm |
@Casper how do you exactly attach the band at the url? I want to find out for myself. Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:09pm |
Oh, wow. It's seven performers. Just realized that. Maybe they are finally listening? Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:11pm |
I don't really use Twitter. Feel free to repost these. The Rock Hall's dumb website has screwed them. I'd love for you all to help embarass them. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:14pm |
Is it like www.rockhall.com/inductees/radiohead? Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:16pm |
About the 2019 Nominees, Casper wrote: Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:19pm |
Yes, Michael. And the URL switches to "2019 inductees" for the seven I mentioned. I could not replicate this with the other names on the ballot. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:19pm |
If this is true, i'm going to be immensely happy Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:21pm |
For The Cure, it's just /cure but then it turns into 2019 Inductees and changes the name to /the-cure. LOL. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:21pm |
Michael, it's an AWESOME class. We need other people to re-tweet this, etc. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:23pm |
The links for the SIX CONFIRMED PERFORMER INDUCTEES: Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:26pm |
Even without Kraftwerk (sorry for my error there), it is still MASSIVE that The Cure got in. This is going to open a lot of doors. Feels like the Hall has finally inducted a proper "alternative" act and now so many dozens of other snubs have a prayer. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:28pm |
Now it looks like Janet Jackson is working too. It appears that that's changed in recent minutes. I wonder if Stevie Nicks didn't get the votes and was put in Musical Excellence like Ringo Starr... Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:30pm |
Christmas came early. Where is everybody? Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:32pm |
Just because I don't see them picking seven and I also don't see any of those others being shunted to Musical Excellence... Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:32pm |
Oh wow. You are right. Janet Jackson is NOW working. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:35pm |
None of the links you listed above are working: "page not found." Shocked and very very happy if Roxy Music, The Cure and Radiohead get in thou. Posted by Nick on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:35pm |
Maybe still 7? Would they let 7 bands get in? Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:38pm |
The Seven Names That Currently Switch To "2019 Inductee" URLS: Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:39pm |
About the 2019 Nominees, Casper wrote: Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:39pm |
It's the url changing in the address bar. The directory switches from inductees to 2019-inductees. If you plug in somebody who doesn't work like Devo or whatever it just shows the inductees page; for the picks presumed to be the actual inductees it switches to the "page not pound" page. Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:40pm |
Nick, I never said the pages were UP. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:42pm |
Well, Jackson and Kraftwerk are next to each other alphabetically (assuming they do it alphabetically by last name and don't put John Prine in between) so they could have a binary on/off switch for each one that they're clicking and somebody made an error and clicked the "yes" radio button one row down... Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:43pm |
They've inducted 7 in the main performers category before. They are not giving Stevie Nicks the Musical Excellence category. That would be stupid. Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:44pm |
Yeah, Sean it's either 7 Performer inductees or Stevie Nicks would have to be the one that they shift over to M.E. I honestly think they are just going with 7 for a big time show... Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:44pm |
Regardless of how the list changes, Radiohead and Cure seem like 100% in? Posted by Michael on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:44pm |
It certainly seems more likely Jackson got in since there's not a lot of crossover there and I think critics post-Les Moonves and black artists were united in her corner, while a lot of the Kraftwerk vote would have gotten split, and it seems unlikely they really made it if the Cure and Roxy Music and Radiohead all did make it, whose voters would have a lot of crossover with Kraftwerk's. Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:45pm |
"They've inducted 7 in the main performers category before. They are not giving Stevie Nicks the Musical Excellence category. That would be stupid." Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:46pm |
WTF? Kraftwerk is TOTALLY in my history. I was right. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:47pm |
Or they just had a bunch of yes/no buttons like I said and Kraftwerk was the row underneath and somebody accidentally clicked that one. If they are capable of messing up things so people can see the nominees in advance, do you think it's impossible they'd make an error like that? Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:50pm |
For those wondering, these six have not changed since I discovered the error: Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:53pm |
Kraftwerk was IN as of 805 PM PST. When I went back and tried again at 824 PM PST, they were not. Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:55pm |
I'm not doubting you. I just think it's a mistake. You think it's malice. Both are easily plausible. I just don't think it's likely Kraftwerk would have gotten in the top five on enough ballots considering The Cure, Radiohead, and Roxy Music also made it. Jackson seems more likely because there is nothing else comparable. Posted by Sean on Wednesday, 12/12/2018 @ 23:59pm |
To reiterate, these are THE SEVEN INDUCTEES that got in from this year's ballot (we know this because the /inductee/(artist name) URL switches to "2019 Inductee") : Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:00am |
Sean, given that people get to vote for five names and those other three cover similar ground, I think it HELPS with the argument that Kraftwerk got in. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:04am |
That's wild. But it would be great if they inducted more than six this year! Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:06am |
I mean, how friggin' disturbing is it that the Hall COULD be deciding all of this stuff at the last minute? Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:06am |
Would they really have it be 7 (or 6) bands? If they do, that's a foot in the right path. Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:07am |
As of right now, Michael, seven names from the ballot got inducted. So it's going to be seven. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:08am |
For sure I understand the logic of why they'd do it if they did it. I just think most people of a critical bent would be more likely to have balanced ballots and switching several between The Cure, Kraftwerk, Radiohead, and Roxy Music, rather than taking all of them. Maybe I'm wrong and the critics are so sick of the populist selections that they've decided simply never to vote for them and vote for critical choices en masse at this point to fight against a class like the last view (indeed, the original ballot itself would be evidence for that where they just took a critics' list and added the top two in the Museum Fan Vote.) Posted by Sean on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:09am |
For the record, none of them work now. But it's possible they probably did a mistake in the Kraftwerk thing and it's possible we may have seven inductees because the Hall is trying to avoid a backlash of any sort! I wonder if someone was reminded "remember when you used to induct more than six? Go back to that." Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:09am |
Having it be only 5 bands was stupid. I hope that Cure, Radiohead, and Kraftwerk get in. Kraftwerk should've been inducted ever since they were first eligible. Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:10am |
Casper Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:11am |
"a class like the last view" Posted by Sean on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:11am |
I mean, good point, Sean...never doubt the Hall when it comes to running things poorly. That has been their MO for decades. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:11am |
Oh god not you. You were the reason why i left this website for a while. Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:11am |
@Casper, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:15am |
Interesting that the links no longer work. I gotta run for now. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:19am |
@Sean, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:19am |
It's interesting. Of course, the Hall's history is even worse when it comes to their website. Still, that'd be a pretty awesome class. It means I went 5 for 7, since I seeded them. Posted by Philip on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:19am |
BTW, the link redirects are still working. I just tried Janet Jackson and it worked. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:21am |
@Casper, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:21am |
What if they put all of them in? Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:22am |
@Casper, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:22am |
Timothy, looks like there is no Rundgren induction whatsoever. I'm sure the URL change would have worked if he was in. I guess they avoided a backdoor induction for him if they are going with SEVEN Performers... Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:27am |
Doesn't mean Radiohead will even show up or that Roxy Music will reunite though...although I think this sort of class makes it WAY likelier for Radiohead to want to be there in the first place than last year's with Bon Jovi and all the classic rock stuff... Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:29am |
https://www.waff.com/2018/12/12/rock-roll-hall-fame-inductees-announced-thursday/ Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:30am |
Timothy, you copy and paste the links I posted and they magically change to error links that read "2019 Inductees"...it only works for those seven artists. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:31am |
@Casper, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:33am |
Have my findings taken off on Twitter or elsewhere yet? Just curious. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:34am |
@Casper, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:36am |
Thx Casper for showing the list early. The suspense has been killing me. Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:42am |
If the list of people that got in was right, I can live with Todd waiting a year. A couple logjams were eased. That said, if Kraftwerk was that close, this is total BS. If they tied Janet, put 8 in. Electronic music is what everyone outside of North America listens to, and they were the godfathers. They've been snubbed, what like 6 times? They should've gone into it in 1999... Posted by K-Dawg on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 00:50am |
@K-Dawg, Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 01:34am |
If this proves to be the case, and you guys all seem to be pretty certain of it. 5 British bands and 2 American women inducted.. Has that ever happened before? It seems a bit unusual, but I am OK with the list if it is valid. I had Todd over Radiohead, and would much have preferred his selection, but he will get in soon. Most all of my picks were selected, if this is correct, and I had figured Prine for the M.E. or Songwriters award. Does this mean he does not have a chance for either of those honors, or does he still have a shot? Posted by Will N. on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 01:42am |
Wake up, people, and start discussing! These are now inductees according to our URL sleuthing: Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 01:43am |
Welp, since Thom Yorke uploaded a video on Twitter, the leak must be real. I can't wait to see pics of him hanging out with Joe and Robert next year. Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 01:51am |
Someone please correct me if my logic or assumptions or knowledge or the rules are inaccurate9. Posted by Joe on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 02:00am |
Nah, the Hall is just really, really friggin' dumb and doesn't update their voting process. This has been pointed out by FRL's owner and by people that visit FRL. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 02:10am |
Will N, concerning Prine (and for that matter, Rundgren), it looks as if there just aren't Musical Excellence inductees this year because there are seven performers that can, theoretically, perform and therefore there isn't enough time to ALSO have some M.E. choices. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 02:12am |
This is the RIGHT class for Radiohead to actually be inducted with...what-the-F did they have in common with last year's bands and some long dead black women? Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 02:33am |
Casper, Thanks for the info. That makes sense, although it seemed like circumstances were leading up to John Prine getting some kind of award, with him garnering some support. I felt he would come up a little short in getting the votes for induction, and it is hard to say when his next opportunity might be. I like the fact they went for 7 inductees, which adds quite a bit more excitement. Should be quite a stir, later on today. Posted by Will N. on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 02:33am |
@Casper wasn't Roxy Music and The Cure one of Radiohead's influences too? Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 02:45am |
@ Casper, Yeah, it will be like a British music HOF reunion, with the American women to hang with. I guess that would be a great way to get them all to show up. You are right, this would be rather enticing to get Radiohead to show up. Plus a lot of Brit fans coming over to NYC, I would guess. This should be interesting.. I am just really happy for Roxy Music, have been pulling for them all along. Posted by Will N. on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 02:45am |
BTW, we'll know in a few hours if we are correct on those seven names, but I'm pretty certain...the same 2019 Inductees part of the URL is where the press release is going to be, etc. Posted by Casper on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 03:25am |
2 hours left... Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 06:03am |
1 hour left... Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 07:00am |
Are they going to livestream it on youtube? Posted by Michael on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 07:29am |
http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 07:33am |
I think so, but only the official announcement. They're gonna discuss the inductees on SiriusXM Channel 106. Posted by Donnie on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 07:33am |
Man, I hope y'all are right! This would be a righteous class. The Cure finally in! Roxy Music & Janet too! Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 07:56am |
It has been confirmed! The rock hall website has been updated. Posted by The_Claw on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 08:04am |
Janet, Roxy Music, Radiohead and The Cure finally got in! YES! YES! YES! :) Posted by Timothy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 08:15am |
Looking back at my final prediction, I was almost a hundred percent right about the winners. Posted by The Dude on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 08:19am |
The Dude and Timothy, Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 09:47am |
Its annoying that Kraftwerk did not make it in. They are my favorite band. I loved seeing Janet Jackson get in though. Posted by rs on Friday, 05/31/2019 @ 02:38am |
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