Kansas and Toto have top 50 rock songs in history and are only playing 1000-man-capacity theatres as of now?
And "one-hit wonder" a-ha even toured in the USA in arenas three/four years ago.
No one really cares about Kansas and Toto despite knowing their songs, but they don't care about the bands themselves. Their hits are enduring, but the bands themselves are dead in popularity. No one gives them a fxxk today...
Also, another case is Survivor. They sold 10–40 million albums worldwide, not much different from Kansas. They had a bigger hit, "Eye of the Tiger," bigger than any Kansas song, and their Spotify monthly listeners are more than Kansas. Both only have two hits over 100 million streams.
Of course, Survivor is not deserving. But no rawk fans argue for Survivor because they are "not rawk," yet they argue for Kansas? No one really thought Survivor as serious candidates, but similar resume Kansas are very deserving? Come on...
Again, I am just saying, if the Rock Hall just nominates "big" rap acts without good acclaim, it will just be a waste of spots... So no to the likes of TI, Ludacris in recent years... They won't get the votes, despite being "more popular" and way bigger names than the likes of Nas, DLS... The latter would have a way better chance of being voted in than the former ones.
Ask yourself, would their resumes be viewed differently from Mariah Carey's in the voters' minds? Their induction chance will be worse version of Mariah Carey. For rap/contemporary R&B acts, they have to be well respected and cool to prevent them from being perceived as Walmart music/bubblegum music by voters from other genres/backgrounds. This is unfair but true...
Also, I feel rock hall should try to nominate Lauryn Hill & Fugees together, their resume will suddenly similar to... Nirvana and probably shoe-in.... And I would say likes of TLC, D'Angelo, Erykah Badu will be easier to be voted in than Mariah Carey...
Boyz II Men won't be voted in easier as well, probably a way harder sell to voters than Mariah Carey. I am curious about New Edition, their induction chance is also... worse version of Mariah Carey...
A-ha isn't an American act. They had an iconic MTV video (top 10 ever) and they did a bond song. That is basically their whole exposure to American audiences. Besides Abba, what artists got inducted that weren't from the UK, Canada, and America?
Kansas and Toto clearly surpass actual inductees. Cheap Trick? Steve Miller? Peter Frampton?
Most bands have 10 year runs (or less). For Kansas and Toto to still have massive songs when they were played to death, says something. Their hits are top 50 all-time successful rock songs.
It was kind of obvious in hindsight Collins was not performing because of health, even having him show up is a major boost because this might be his last public appearance for all week now. Many artists become crapshoots to see if they will come when the potential is silm.
So far we have:
Billy Idol - Showing up and performing.
Wu-Tang Clan - Showing up and performing.
Phil Collins - Showing up but not performing.
Oasis - Trolling about this so might or might not, leaning towards will especially with Disney documentary giving incentive for them to show.
New Order - Potentially showing up but secretive about everything, Peter Hook will though.
Sade - Who even knows what is going on with them lol.
Iron Maiden - Confirmed not showing up.
Luther Vandross - Obviously passed so will be tributed.
With your only confirmed performers Idol and Wu-Tang, they really need at least Oasis to show up to make this a lucrative ticket. New Order and Sade would be good supports, even if the likelyhood of a full New Order reunion is zero and Sade likely will not even acknowledge the induction
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