KC & the Sunshine Band

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Will KC & the Sunshine Band be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
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This one of the tightest, most talented bands I had ever seen...nothing phony about them at all...and they had tremendous energy, put on a GREAT show. Alas, they also suffer from the "Chic Syndrome" (I kinda like that way of describing it)!

Maybe in another time and place...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 09:29am


As a weekends-overnight disc jockey working for a station that plays retro music on the weekends, I can say that I hope they never get in. They may be talented, but when talented people put out dreck... you familiar with the phrase "polished turd"? My fav song by this entity is KC's "Give It Up" which was a solo effort.

I like their motives though... make music that's idiot-proof: no one will ever question what the song's title is because it's so obvious. Unfortunately, as a deejay, I can tell you they didn't entirely succeed. I get calls from people who f*** up KC & the Sunshine Band's song titles. They won't get in because they dumbed down their music, which will never go over well with the nominating committee.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 09:45am


Philip...I couldn't agree with you more!! Change the lyrics, and the song probably has a whole different culture. A prime example of a song being "dumbed down" was "Maniac" by Michael Sembello...it was originally about a serial killer!!! Had to make it fit that movie, though...

Now it's about mindless dancing...sound familiar???

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 09:51am


In a weird way, though, I really did respect them for what they did. I used to think it was a wonderful conceptual coup waged against the snobbishly elite in the music industry, and I thought that was awesome. Then I realized they were nowhere near the only ones dumbing down their lyrics: the Ohio Players, Chic, the GAP Band (whose grooves I think were way more serious than Chic's, but I don't play guitar either, so I'll have to defer to you), etc.

Also... "Chic Syndrome"... I like it! Keep this up and soon FRH will need to have a glossary page for phrases used in our discussions. So far I've noticed we've got "(playing the) Sledge Card" and "(suffering from) Chic Syndrome." Too awesome.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 10:00am


Philip...I have another good euphemism!!! If you've been "Madonna'd", you're either;

A) Totally and completely undeserving of HOF consideration.
Or;
B) Should've never been inducted in the first place!!!

I think that's a euphemism that carries a lot of weight...LOL!!!! My contempt for her has no limits....

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 11:20am


In my opinion, Bonnie Raitt and Patti Smith have been Madonna'd just to name two. I have to go with Isaac Hayes too. Correct me if I'm wrong but did he contribute anything to music besides providing the theme for "Shaft?" (I never thought that theme was very good).

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 11:55am


And of course the biggest one to get Madonna'd, Jann Wenner himself LOL!

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 11:56am


Get out. Right now. Really, if you think the only things Isaac Hayes contributed to music were the Theme from Shaft and Chocolate Salty Balls, you don't deserve talking about music ever again.

BTW that's a really bad eupemism. Madonna herself wasn't even Madonna'd. Couldn't we name it after someone who really didn't deserve it? ;)

Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 12:06pm


I dunno. Getting Madonna'd is a little too close to the Sledge Card for my tastes.

And yes, Isaac Hayes deserved it. Listen to his other soul stuff. Really some amazing stuff there. Bonnie Raitt, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to. Heralded as a bluesy mama, whatever that means, I don't know enough about her, really. She's never interested me that much. Patti Smith, yes she deserves it. One of the most respected and influential punk musicians, not to mention punk females.

And for crying out loud, YES Jann Wenner belongs. Megalomaniacal he may be, but for crying out loud, as founder and longtime editor-in-chief of Rolling Stone magazine, probably the quintessential trade publication outside of Billboard, biased as it may be, he's still deserving of the honor.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 12:08pm


The true meaning of Madonna'd: You're Madonna'd when you got a truly deserving induction in the Hall of Fame, but are still being discussed because some people just can't accept it. Sometimes because they don't understand the criteria for being inducted, sometimes because they don't agree with their criteria, and sometimes just because they don't see what all the fuzz is about.

Some notable examples: Grandmaster Flash, Patti Smith, Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 12:28pm


The Dark Side of the Stone: You are pretty influential, was one of the dominant artists in your genre, but, unfortunately, Jann Wenner and his friends at RS didn't like you, your music, your genre even. Too bad, you got on the Dark Side of the Stone. You might get inducted, but it won't be simple and it will take a long, long time.

Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 12:32pm


Ok, forget the glossary idea. True glossary entries are ones you stumble upon incidentally, not ones you go out of your way to create and define.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 12:39pm


Claw...you and I agree on a lot of things, but will never agree on Madonna...she took the "Sledge Card" and took it to a whole new level. I've tried to be objective about her, but quite frankly, could never understand what all the fuss surrounding her was all about. If we strictly go by her music, which should be the first thing considered, without MTV she wouldn't have hardly gotten out of the gate...so to speak. It's what she did visually that got people's attention. I think of a song like "Love To Love You Baby" by Donna Summer...a song that exuded sensuality...so much so that some stations wouldn't play it. That to me is the mark of a great song. On the other hand, with a song like "Like A Prayer", the video was the controversy, not the song. Madonna, to my knowledge, was never that expressive in her music, and without MTV would've never got the chance to even attempt it after a couple of singles. It was always the visual aspect. This particular HOF is about the music...not the videos that accompany it.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 12:51pm


Well excuse me for not knowing enough about Isaac Hayes

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 13:16pm


Philip how on Earth can you say Jann Wenner deserves to be inducted? He has done nothing but cause anger and frustration because of his ignorant pigheaded views

And Bonnie Raitt didn't deserve to be inducted before so many more deserving artists.

I could care less about Patti Smith

Posted by Gustav on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 13:23pm


Come to think of it, I don't think Madonna deserves to have anything named after her. Even a word that denotes a negative connotation.

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 13:27pm


"Philip how on Earth can you say Jann Wenner deserves to be inducted? He has done nothing but cause anger and frustration because of his ignorant pigheaded views."--Gustav

Baloney. He's caused a lot more besides anger and frustration. As a prominent trade publication, Rolling Stone has become almost a rite of passage that can seriously elevate an artist's career. You cannot deny the impact that Rolling Stone magazine has had upon the world of rock 'n' roll, and music overall. Not to mention the subsequent publications that have arisen in its wake. Like I said, he's an egomaniac, but dammit, he has done his share to help in the perpetuation of rock 'n' roll music.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 13:33pm


He may have done his share but he certainly wasn't the only one who had his "share." And are you actually telling me you stand behind the man and his exhibit in the ugliest building on the planet?

Posted by Gustav on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 13:37pm


I haven't seen his exhibit, so I can't speak to it, and frankly "ugliest building on the planet" is highly subjective. And I agree he is biased as hell, and I sure as heck don't agree with half of his bats*** political views. So what? That doesn't change the fact that Rolling Stone magazine was and still is an important player in the rock'n'roll industry. Whether you like it or not, it doesn't.

But the question is not "Is he the MOST deserving Non-Performer?" but rather, "Is he A deserving Non-Performer?" The answer to that is yes.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 13:43pm


lol The_Claw. The way you talk about Isaac Hayes sounds as if you would have loved to get a room with the man who had "Salty balls." Why don't you shove your claw where the sun don't shine.

By the way, someone said Patti Smith was punk. That statement is funnier than me.

Hustle. Hustle.

Posted by joker on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 13:44pm


Actually, Philip...there's a lot of publications that pre-dated RS that deserve recgnition as well. As much as this might shock you, Guitar Player would be one of them. The articles aren't only about how artists play (even though that has been instrumental in a lot of great player's routine). Another publication that was always making a statement about popular culture (albeit a satirical one) and was immensely popular was...MAD!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 13:59pm


Philip...the reason I said "shock" you was..."consider the source".....LOL!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 14:01pm


lol It's all good, Gitarzan. I don't like Jann S. Wenner's politics, or the way he's run the HoF lately, but to deny the tremendous impact he's had via his publication is just choosing to remain ignorant. Just because you don't like the guy doesn't mean you don't acknowledge his accomplishments.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 14:03pm


As much as I am no fan of Wenner's influence over the Hall, I can't see how anyone could go against his induction. RS has been staggeringly influential over it's time, and in the early days it was influential for the good of the music. Every now and then they'll come back to it and really do something good, but they've stalled over new stuff. What they could do for modern rock today if they had the courage to act on it is awesome to think about.

More than anything else, what get's people (I think) is the fact that he has in essence been inducted into his own Hall. I mean, it's not really HIS Hall, but we all get the picture. It feels like a lot of backslapping and glad-handling, and it comes off as sycophantic. Sometimes like those lists they put together.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 14:37pm


I think we can all agree that all those lists really have started to seem ridiculous. How can you compile a list of 100 Greatest Vocalists or whatever that new one is called. I could make a better list in 20 minutes! RS really need to stop acting as if they have the final say on anything music related.

Posted by Gustav on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 14:45pm


No argument there. I for one prefer the "100 Greatest ____ " lists on digitaldreamdoor.com to be a lot more of an accurate representation than most of the stuff RS creates.

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 14:48pm


This has been a long Saturday for KC and the Sunshine Band

Posted by Connor on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 14:52pm


I think we can all agree that all those lists really have started to seem ridiculous. How can you compile a list of 100 Greatest Vocalists or whatever that new one is called. I could make a better list in 20 minutes! RS really need to stop acting as if they have the final say on anything music related.

Posted by Gustav on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 14:45pm
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Get ready to explode, then, while I write this. I have a printout of a page off RS's website. It's old, from when the R& R Hall gave it's list of what it thought the most important albums of all time were. RS made it a point to compare their take w/the Hall's. I will not give you the official breakdown, but I will quote from the page here:

"At the end of the day, it's all a matter of opinion and taste, and it's all relevant, right? WRONG. It comes down to the empirical, hard and fast rules of ROCK & ROLL! And who wrote those rules? Why, we did, of course!

Kidding (kinda). What list do you think is more 'definitive"?"

That is the exact quote at the bottom of the page, reprinted verbatim. I still have this page lying around cause w/out it I can't find the combo to my basement locker, but I always knew one day these words would be useful for something. I won't even mention the name of the writer here, because it pretty much sums up the collective opinion of where they think they rank in the R&R pecking order.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 15:01pm


I'm not sure how the topic changed from KC & The Sunshine Band to Jann Wenner's spot in the Hall, but here's my $0.02: Why the hell should Jann Wenner be in the Hall? The whole idea of a music HoF is that is for, uh, MUSICIANS. I can understand letting in producers or non-performing songwriters but magazine publishers? Gimme a break. Having Jann Wenner in the R&RHoF makes about as much sense as having Stephen A. Smith in the Basketball HoF (and they're both complete morons BTW).

And don't even get me started on RS. I may not know too much about its "glory days" that Cheescrop alludes to, but I do know this. RS mindlessly bashed one good album after another from roughly 1975 to 1990 and lumped them all under the "corporate rock" label (you've all heard my rant on that term on another page) only to get on their hands and knees for all the alternative crap of the 90's. Today its nothing more than a left-wing propaganda newsletter that reads like it was edited by Stalin himself. The only unleashing a loathesome publication like RS should get you into is the ninth circle of hell.

Face facts, people. The only reason why Wenner is in the Hall is because he runs the place and needed to inflate his already massive ego. He's more or less the Vince McMahon of music. But at least Vinny Mac actually contributed something to his craft.

Posted by Randy on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 15:37pm


Randy, no one's denying that his running the Hall had something to do with it. But it's not all there is to him. If nothing else, you have to admit, that these lists that put out are 1) fun to make and read and 2) productive because they generate discussion, which is always good. No one's saying Rolling Stone is the final word, but let's not kid ourselves, Rolling Stone was, and to some degree is, the print version of American Bandstand or the Ed Sullivan Show. Being in/on it meant something, and still has some meaning. Look how many thought RUSH was finally going to be nominated when they finally appeared on the cover of the magazine this past year. And ironically, the fact that they aren't on the ballot sort of destroys the idea of Rolling Stone being the end-all be-all.

And Jann Wenner isn't even the first magazine editor inducted into the Hall. That honor went to Paul Ackerman, I believe.

Yes, it is about musicians... that's why three of the four principal categories are about people who actually played/sang music. Happily, the Non-Performer category is a lot less myopic that you'd like it to be. In addition to Producers and Songwriters, they've also inducted Record Label Owners/Founders, Talent Scouts, Disc Jockeys, Concert Promoters, Tour Coordinators, a Variety Show Host, a Musical Instrument Innovator, and a couple Magazine Editors. Broaden your scope, man, cuz you're missing the bigger picture.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 16:00pm


Philip...you're right about 2 things;

1) Rolling Stone has had a major cultural impact over the years...
and;
2) I really don't like Jann Wenner...LOL!!!

Now, how about that KC & the Sunshine Band...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 16:09pm


Like I said, at first I thought they were a brilliantly executed conceptual coup against the snobbishly elite members of the musical society, but then I realized they were nowhere near the only people in town executing that strategy. I have to admit, I now hate "I'm Your Boogie Man," "Boogie Shoes," and "Keep It Comin' Love"... not too fond of "Get Down Tonight" either. Just a little overkill for me... within a single playing of a song!

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 17:00pm


Randy -

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, RS was actually more akin to the Rebel Alliance and not the Empire. I know, hard to believe. I'd say roughly from 67 to right around where you pointed it out, in 75, RS used to have it's proverbial finger on the pulse of rock & roll.

You are right in that they bashed a lot of late 70's and 80's music. Rather than dump on them for jumping on alternative, I'm thankful that the light went on that late in the game. W/out that we'd be going on 30+ yrs of perpetual bashing of modern music. As it is, I never had a real issue of note w/either 80's metal or 90's grunge. I have defended Pearl Jam, Def Lep, Soundgarden, and Motley Crue on this site, and see precious little reason to differentiate any longer.

By the way, I loved that bit w/Vince.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 11.15.08 @ 17:08pm


Well,they deserve to get in much more than chic does.

Posted by S.R on Tuesday, 03.10.09 @ 16:08pm


A perfect example of how selling 100 million records, winning 9 Grammys and having your songs appear in dozens of movies and commercials doesn't mean you're guaranteed an induction in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame.

It takes more.


Posted by classicrocker on Saturday, 08.22.09 @ 14:30pm


It amazes me to see so many nominated artists who were one-hit-wonders or had no more than 1 popular song. KCSB not only had many #1 songs in 70's - 80's, but their music defined a musical era. Even 30 years after their original #1's, you still hear their songs in movies, commercials, etc. It has stood the test of time...and that is what a Hall of Fame is about.

Posted by Ginger on Wednesday, 10.13.10 @ 22:41pm


They are famous for having hit songs with only 9 different words in them ;-)

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 10.14.10 @ 06:20am


They absolutely should be in the hall: they are one of the greatest bands ever, and they were more influential than the critics realize. I can see why the Hall voters don't like them: nothing to get all pretentious about, no fussy details, no introspective lyrics, none of that stuff critics like. The songs sound moronically simplistic at first listening--- even though the music is actually pretty sophisticated. Be that as it may, a totally unhip-looking white guy who plays disco is always going to have problems with the critics, no matter how good he is, and KC was pretty damn good.

Posted by Timothy Horrigan on Sunday, 01.30.11 @ 22:44pm


There are two genres of music the RHOF avoids like the plague: disco and 80s hair metal. That's a shame, because KC and the Sunshine Band were one of the first, and most successful, bands of the disco era. Regardless of one's opinion, the stats don't lie: 5 number 1 singles in a five period plus numerous other charted songs, including a track on the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack. After the Steve Dahl disco demolition at Comiskey Park in 1979, we threw the baby out with the bathwater here; no disco act was able to get a decent break afterwards, except for Donna Summer. I think it's long due to re-examine the artists from that era, and KC deserves a slot in the HOF.

Posted by John Cady on Wednesday, 02.20.13 @ 10:42am


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