wu tang clan
shania twain
bjork

Posted by martin on Wednesday, 06.13.07 @ 09:30am

"shania twain"

Are you outta your fuckin mind?!

Posted by shawn mc on Wednesday, 06.13.07 @ 09:54am

cmon she sold 20 million & influenced country music

Posted by martin on Tuesday, 06.26.07 @ 09:59am

"cmon she sold 20 million & influenced COUNTRY music"

Uh huh. And... Three guesses what the operative word is there that makes this ridiculous.

Besides that, sales are at best a secondary element (some even say irrelevant - though I don't think so).

And besides THAT, sassy ol' Shania is the paragon of campy pop crap that dresses itself up in a twangy voice and maybe a hat and points to itself as c-o-u-n-t-r-y. She's Mutt Lang's Canadian version of Britney Spears.

Posted by shawn mc on Tuesday, 06.26.07 @ 10:39am

Correct answer here is Björk and Wu Tang Clan...you were on the money, martin...if only you hadn't thrown in Shania.

There's some other impressive acts for this year, but none that managed a meaty career. Then there's junk like DMB that will get in on name recognition alone, but at least they're a little different from the rest of the mainstream flock, even if they are terminally boring.

Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 06.26.07 @ 20:34pm

Casper: "Then there's junk like DMB that will get in on name recognition alone...even if they are terminally boring."

What a burden it must be to be such so insufferably cool. DMB is poor the dense minions who don't know boring when they hear it, eh? You're positively too hip for the room, Casper - you Pitchfork dork.

Posted by shawn mc on Tuesday, 06.26.07 @ 21:54pm

well they have only hounored 2 country artists into the hall. why no more.

sim sure garth would get in soon

Posted by martin on Friday, 07.13.07 @ 12:56pm

Dave Matthews, Sheryl Crow, Snoop Dogg are the biggest names here

Posted by Dave on Monday, 08.27.07 @ 05:01am

Bjork, Dave Matthews Band and Sheryl Crow are absolute locks.

The two rap/hip-hop acts that have the most chance are The Roots and Wu-Tang Clan, and they both deserve a spot for being arguably the most innovative and original acts from that era.

Posted by Antonio on Thursday, 09.6.07 @ 18:22pm

shut it shaw & all u anti pop people shut it they will put whatever DAM GENRE IN THE ROCK HALL

Posted by martin on Wednesday, 12.19.07 @ 05:49am

Blink 182
They basically formed the 2000's in rock music.
Unfortunately, it died with bands like Fall out boy.

Posted by Travis on Thursday, 02.7.08 @ 20:52pm

I don't know anything about Blink 182...but I know someone who isn't going to agree with you...lol!!!!

Posted by Terry on Thursday, 02.7.08 @ 21:10pm

Barney the Purple Dinosaur (who will be 88,002,018 years old when eligible) and Jordy (who will be thirty years old when eligible) are missing from this list.

Posted by Gregory Pietsch on Sunday, 03.23.08 @ 09:33am

Can we just skip this year and induct more old acts that still won't have gotten in by 2019? Because outside of the two rap giants (The Roots and the Wu-Tang Clan), this year is pretty out of it. Look...I know Bjork will make it in (as much as I personally despise her work), and Snoop, Dave, and Sheryl are good possibilities, but is anyone really that excited about inducting Sheryl Crow into the hall of fame? And will Snoop even be alive by this time?

Had Liz Phair just released Exile in Guyville and had a horrible, Holly-esque accident, she'd be a lock (not that I'd wish that fate on anyone). But considering her recent work, she needs to pick it up over the next decade.

Posted by Trey on Tuesday, 07.8.08 @ 14:42pm

Clarification: When I said "Good possibilities", I meant "good" as in "likely", not good as in "quality acts"...

Posted by Trey on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 16:38pm

AFI
Blink-182
Dave Matthews Band
The Roots
Shania Twain
Snoop Dogg
Wu-Tang Clan

Posted by Justin on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 02:26am

Locks for induction, providing the basis follows the same pattern it has for a while now:

Dave Matthews, Sheryl Crow, Shania Twain

Various drool-worthy artists who will get some play:

Counting Crows/Collective SoulBlink 182/Liz Phair/Snoop/Wu Tang

Will fly under the radar: Grant Lee Buffalo

And finally, the we wish to be daring award: Bjork

I am often told music is a means to understaing the different cultures of the world (to a degree). I can only assume the following in regards to Bjork:

That within the vertically devastated terrain of Iceland, the sole means of true communication is to select the target you wish to communicate with and then bellow like a banshee in that general direction until noticed. Perhaps in a land whose main exports I believe to be Vikings, whale blubber, and Yetis, this has become a tried and true means of eccefctive communication, but I'm not so sure this translates into effective rock. But then again this may merely be my skewed attitude coming into play here.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 09.28.08 @ 09:38am

slt tu es la bb jai lanvi de

Posted by kady on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 12:25pm

Sunny Day Real Estate!

Posted by Shawn on Wednesday, 10.22.08 @ 15:32pm

I think blink 182 (awsome) and dave matthews band (awsome) cause they contributed to music

Posted by BBC on Monday, 11.10.08 @ 23:02pm

really wanted to feel excitement for this year for some reason but only found that clutch was the only band here worth my precious time.

Posted by argh on Tuesday, 02.3.09 @ 10:12am

blink 182 all the freakin way!!!
i dont care bout anyone on the list except
crows

Posted by BAGHEAD on Saturday, 03.14.09 @ 12:54pm

should there be a god:

bjork
blink 182
the roots
wu tang

Posted by Tom on Monday, 04.6.09 @ 01:06am

This is an interesting year that I feel I could look at now. Assuming that:

1) all the key artists of the rap revolution like Public Enemy, N.W.A. and A Tribe Called Quest
2) alternative bands Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nine Inch Nails and the Pixies

will all already be inducted by 2017/2018, we are left with the Wu-Tang Clan as the only certainty: in a sense, they were the last pioneer in the hip-hop world. Snoop Dogg, the Roots and DJ Shadow might be possibilities but whether they have enough influence on other bands to get in.

Of the remaining artists, I am inclined to strongly question Björk when one considers that Kate Bush - one of her predecessors - has never been discussed at all six years after being eligible. The past induction of the Pretenders, on the other hand, makes me imagine Shania Twain and Sheryl Crow may well have a chance.

The way John Cougar Mellencamp got in makes me think the DMB - who I thought sounded a little like them ten years ago - are also a good chance.

Posted by Julien Peter Benney on Saturday, 06.13.09 @ 05:03am

AFI
Blink-182
Collective Soul
Dave Matthews Band
Everclear

Posted by Nick on Monday, 07.6.09 @ 07:11am

A slightly difficult year; I don't really consider any of these artists "great." If Alice Cooper or KISS can't make it in any year prior to this, then this might be their best shot at it.

My votes:
Liz Phair (the closest thing to a lock here; her critical success makes her a strong candidate)
Wu-Tang Clan
Rancid
Snoop Dogg
Counting Crows

The (likely) inductees:
Liz Phair
Dave Matthews Band (ugh...)
Sheryl Crow
Shania Twain
Snoop Dogg

A bit of a crap class if it ends up being that (any class with Dave Matthews Band in it [and trust me, Dave Matthews Band WILL get in someday] will suffer a massive blow to its credibility).

On a side note, anybody who claims that Blink-182 or AFI have even a remote chance of induction is clearly thirteen or fourteen years old; almost every body outside of that age group (you know, people who can actually MAKE qualified criticism of music) can barely tolerate their stuff.

Posted by AreUExperienced on Monday, 07.13.09 @ 19:46pm

The (likely) inductees:
Liz Phair
Dave Matthews Band (ugh...)
Sheryl Crow
Shania Twain
Snoop Dogg

A bit of a crap class if it ends up being that (any class with Dave Matthews Band in it [and trust me, Dave Matthews Band WILL get in someday] will suffer a massive blow to its credibility).

Posted by AreUExperienced on Monday, 07.13.09 @ 19:46pm
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You think maybe a band like Collective Soul could end up being elected? Like you say, the class is weak. I don't know if you're one of those people who get freaked out regarding commercial popularity. I think anyone who doesn't worship at the altar of indie rock could make a case for Collective Soul's success during this time. They had a boatload of hits from 1994-2000, and they had the #1 rock song at least two or three times ("Shine" in 94, "December" in 95, and "Heavy" in 99). What do you think?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 07.14.09 @ 06:27am

Collective Soul had some great songs, but sadly them and the rest of the post-grungers really have no chance of induction in my opinion. The same with '80s arena rock. These artists will be seen as commercial bands and bands that have cashed in on grunge's popularity. Also, the fact that several of these post-grunge acts have sometimes been viewed as "Christian rock" doesn't help. Though I believe the rest of alternative music will be treated pretty highly by the commitee.

Posted by Dude Man on Tuesday, 07.14.09 @ 09:17am

D.M.

What makes you think that they will look kindly at the Alternative Acts of the early 90's when they have not even started to consider some of the Post-punk, New Wave and "left of the dial" bands of the late 70's, early 80's: Joy Division, New Order, Cars, Richard Hell, etc., etc. Even a band like INXS which started out on "Left of the Dial" has not really received the look see that they deserve.

The way it looks right now, until this lame nominating committee gets every 50's and early 60's band in, they will not look at anything other than the obvious or those who were absolute critical darlings.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 07.14.09 @ 14:36pm

It will be interesting to see how Wu-Tang does. If people want to complain about rap in the rock hall, I think this would be a benchmark decision for future rap and hip-hop artists. I also wonder if they would consider all of the solo albums under the Wu-Tang banner since this is where much of their legacy is. No chance of a first year induction but they are an interesting future prospect.

Everyone else: Snoop Dogg is a possibility but if NWA or at least Dr. Dre doesn't get in he won't. Liz Phair's career didn't amount to anything. The Roots never made a massive splash outside of hip-hop. Dave Matthews Band...I could never fathom what people saw in them but unfortunately they seem more likely for this group of artists. Collective Soul have modern classic rock plastered all over them but their lack of critical support is their achilles heel. Sheryl Crow has a chance, if only for popularity and the necessity for more female presence in the hall. DJ Shadow is a part of the world the rock hall hasn't even begun to touch so it's a big no here. Blink 182...the enduring popularity of punk-pop and its derivatives would suggest a possibility but the hall will stop here with Green Day.

I personally push hard for Bjork's induction. Debut, Post, Homogenic, starring in Lars Von Trier's quasi-musical melodrama masterpiece Dancer in the Dark, Vespertine. Major stuff here and one of the few artists I genuinely look forward to hearing more from year after year.

Posted by Elastic Man on Tuesday, 07.14.09 @ 21:58pm

Well, Dameon this is how I see it. New wave artists(Elvis Costello, Blondie, Talking Heads, The Pretenders) and post-punk artists(U2, The Police) have been inducted and I believe more are on the way(I actually think the B-52s have a good chance of getting in).

Richard Hell has an alright chance in my opinion. If it took Patti Smith several extra years to get in and considering the hall has many punk acts, he has a firm shot.

R.E.M. have already been inducted, first year eligible. Alternative is a relatively young genre and already has a representative in the hall. And Nirvana are sealed to get in first year.

Posted by Dude Man on Tuesday, 07.14.09 @ 22:36pm

Cheesecrop,

Hmm...I think this is the second time I've responded to a question of yours. How interesting...please don't view that remark as derogatory, either: as you may or may not be able to tell, I enjoy discussing music greatly, so I'm more than happy to respond.

I think that commercial success is an important part of a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame candidate's resume. For example, Prince has sold nearly forty million records in the United States alone; few would dispute the notion that he is one of the most original musicians in the history of rock and roll and he rightly deserves his place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. However, let's imagine an alternate reality where Prince never became Prince; instead of the forty million US records he's sold, let's imagine he only sold, say, five or ten million records. That would have damaged Prince's case severely; without his massive popularity, he would have had a harder time gaining support as he might have been viewed more as a sex-obsessed oddity than the innovative superstar he actually is. In instances like this, I think commercial success plays a big role: when you're either as big or radically inventive as Prince was, people need to be in agreement that you're a worthy candidate for the HoF, and record sales are an excellent indicator of how people view (or viewed) you.

However, commercial success does not necessarily make or break an artist's chances of induction in to the Hall, especially if the artist's music is not particularly commercially-oriented. For example, the Velvet Underground are one of the most influential groups of all-time and are beloved by seemingly every music-oriented publication known to man, but they sold very few records in their day due to the avant garde nature of most of their catalog. When you take in to account the Underground's massive influence, though, as well as noting the fact that most (or at least many) people, if asked, would know who you're talking about, then record sales seems almost trivial.

Although I am a fan of indie rock, record label status generally does not matter to me so long as the material being produced is not altered substantially to suit mainstream tastes; in other words, as long as an artist doesn't sell out, they're cool with me. Bearing this in mind, I don't think Collective Soul were sell-outs; their success was legitimate and their sound didn't change dramatically. However, despite their commercial success, I just don't think that Collective Soul has a shot at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You're certainly right in that Collective Soul made some good records, but they didn't do any thing great; their records come no where near the work produced by Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Weezer in the same time frame. Let's face it: you can sell one-hundred million records, but if critics don't like your stuff and musicians don't find you important or influential, than the chances of you getting inducted in to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are slim indeed. Perhaps coming about at a revolutionary time in rock history hurt them, but regardless, I don't think Collective Soul did enough worthwhile stuff to be worthy of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Thanks for the question once again; I had fun answering it. Hopefully, you're not a die-hard fan of Collective Soul, but if you are, then I'm sorry if my honesty offends you in any way, shape, or form.

Posted by AreUExperienced on Wednesday, 07.15.09 @ 18:44pm

"Let's face it: you can sell one-hundred million records, but if critics don't like your stuff and musicians don't find you important or influential, than the chances of you getting inducted in to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are slim indeed."-AreUExperienced

In some cases lately it seems that's exactly what the committee is looking for...whatever sells tickets.

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 07.15.09 @ 19:11pm

Blink 182
Dave Mathews Band

Posted by Alex on Tuesday, 11.10.09 @ 09:54am

Shouldn't 311 be in here since their first major record came out in 93? For some reason they have them listed that their first record came out in 90

Posted by Ken on Wednesday, 11.18.09 @ 14:53pm

Dave Matthews Band, Counting Crows, and Blink 182.

They are the best on the list, especially DMB, and for anyone that says they shouldn't be is pretty much a moron. The Wu Tang Clan, RAP IS NOT MUSIC! It's awful, and does not require talent. Blink and Counting Crows are great as well.

Posted by jibbles89 on Wednesday, 12.23.09 @ 10:50am

Blink-182 all the way theres no way they won't get in. I mean they broke up for 4 years and then they came back and it started something huge. Every one was happy they got back together, theres never bin so much excitement for a band getting back together ever. They sold almost 20 million copies of just one single album. There music videos are like no other I mean running down the streets naked thats classic. No one could forget about that, I mean even people who don't like rock no who Blink-182 is. I mean What's My Age Again, Dammit, All The Small things, First Date, I Miss You. These are not just regular singles there songs that are going down as classics that every one knows them wether you no who Blink-182 is or not. And its only gonna get better with there new album coming out in late 2010. 100% there gonna be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Ivan on Saturday, 02.13.10 @ 22:03pm

How does selling more than 31 million records all time, and grossing 530 million dollars of the 2000 decade alone not make you qualified for the hall of fame? Dave Matthews Band has been a huge name in music for the past 20 years. I can understand how some people do not like their music, but they are completely original compared rock bands today.

Posted by Danny on Thursday, 03.18.10 @ 18:21pm

Danny...go look at the induction criteria and tell us if it says anything about record sales (which I can assure you that it doesn't). Besides that, 31 million albums sold is really not that much...some artists have done that with ONE!!!

There's really not much that's original about them...

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 03.18.10 @ 18:30pm

oh come on AFI ftw!!, these brought Post-hardcore to the maintream and have been through loads of different types of music like electronic music and alterntive rock but at the same time they have stuck to ther punk roots what is very rare for a band of any type of music.

also they are 1 of the very few punk bands to have 2 platnum albums (Decemberunderground 1 million +, Sing the sorrow 1 millon +) and one whats nearly platnum (Art of Drowning 800,000+) now someone, tell me one of the other candiates who has done better than that?

Posted by Tom on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 11:47am

1. Bjork - incredible body of work

2. DJ Shadow - absolute shoe in. changed the course of hiphop/techno, practically invented turnablism as a genre.

3. Snoop Dogg - he is in

4. The Roots - you just wait and see

5. Blink 182 - all the small things that get you votes

Please no:
DMB - no originality
Sheryl Crow - too crabby
Liz Phair - no talent whatsoever
Shania is hot but too country

Posted by 3MTA3 on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 17:44pm

I believe Snoop Dogg, Wu Tang Clan, blink-182, Shania Twian will get in.

Dave Matthew's Band can eventually.

And AFI maybe someday, but maybe not.

Posted by MC on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 15:45pm

Bjork is definitely a lock, and for good reason.
I doubt Blink-182 will get in.
DMB will probably get in, regardless of what you might think about them.
Not immediately, of course, but sometime before 2030.

As Trey said earlier, the only chance Liz has of getting in is if she had died around the time a decade ago, before her poorly received "comeback" albums.

If Shania and Sheryl can play the "We have oodles of commercial success, therefore we should get in" card successfully, they seem like strong contenders for eventual inclusion.

Wu-Tang Clan and Snoop Dogg are near locks, but The Roots seem pretty unlikely.
DJ Shadow may be too experimental for the Hall, but if they can realize his influence on his genre, then he should get in.

Posted by Daniel on Wednesday, 06.9.10 @ 18:42pm

I like DMB but I don't think they should be inducted. Ditto for Collective Soul, who have little chance (unlike DMB who will likely be in eventually.) Maybe to Wu-Tang Clan, maybe to Bjork... otherwise, that's a very weak class. A good year to play catch-up, 2018.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 06.27.10 @ 21:46pm

I think both Blink 182 & Everclear are worthy candidates for induction at some point in time.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 06.28.10 @ 06:17am

Blink's a bit overhyped in my mind.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 06.30.10 @ 21:03pm