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These artists released their first recording in 1986, which made them first eligible for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2011 (which would be the 2012 Induction Ceremony). For a list of artists who were inducted at the 2012 Ceremony, click here. All currently eligible artists are listed here. Artists aleady inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame can be found here.
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132 comments so far (post your own)guns & roses & salt n pepper
Posted by martin on Wednesday, 06.13.07 @ 09:22am
In a perfect world, there would be no doubts about Guided By Voices, They Might Be Giants, and Yo La Tengo being welcomed with open arms. Unfortunately, they'll have troubles arriving onto the ballot. If only the Pitchfork staff were the ones that had the final say on whose up for nomination...
...looks like the only can't miss is Guns 'n Roses, an act that I can hardly discern from the rest of the crowded field of 80's hair bands.
Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 06.13.07 @ 21:18pm
Just to let you know, having Glam Rock influences does not constitute one's music as hair metal. There's a difference between the poofy hair and shallowlyrics of a band like Poison or Cinderella and a band like GNR widely considered as the more rough edged, Stonesy altenative to that metal.
Guns N' Roses barely even qualify as metal. I would say they possess more of hard rock sound of a Who or Rolling Stones with mixture of Elton John balladry,punk influences, glam influences, and even some progressive influences.
While certain indulgent music videos lessened the effect of their music, their talent,popularity and influence on the rock landscape can't be denied.
That being said, Guided by Voices do warrant induction as well.
I also believe that Babyface deserves to be inducted, although I do not feel that he will. His impact on 90's R&B alone really does make him the Phil Spector of his time.
Posted by Jason on Monday, 07.23.07 @ 01:55am
Guns N' Roses is the only lock this year.
Posted by Antonio on Thursday, 09.6.07 @ 18:52pm
GNR and TMBG for this year. pray to god Axl gets the old band back together
Posted by Mike on Friday, 09.7.07 @ 13:56pm
Guns and Roses is the only lock.
It will be great to see all the ORIGINAL members back together even if it is only for one night and a few songs.
Posted by Emma on Thursday, 09.13.07 @ 15:51pm
This one is easy
G&R
The Jayhawks
They Might Be Giants
Crowded House
Poison
I'd love to see Matthew Sweet, but I don't think he has had a lasting career.
Posted by jungleland on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 07:31am
Cinderella? Poison? Guns & Roses?? Hell, Yanni and the New Kids on the Block are about as credible! Yo La Tengo and the Melvins are about the only worthy bands on the list. Much as I love Lyle Lovett, he doesn't rock, and Babyface? You're kidding me, right??
From the recent trends though, this is the direction we're heading in: schlock bands that sold a shitload of piss-poor records to a bunch of wasted 12 year olds that are still wearing spandex. Hall of Shame is more like it!
Posted by Bobzilla on Friday, 02.15.08 @ 20:54pm
GNR has to be a lock. If a nomination causes a reunion and tour id kill myself shortly after since my life would be complete. GNR cant be denied. The most successful, talented, volitaile and unpredictable band of their era. Bands with careers spanning 20 plus years achieved what GNR did in 5 years.
Posted by Nick on Monday, 05.26.08 @ 14:51pm
There is absolutely jack about Guns N Roses that is "unpredictable," and GnR have been going for 21 years, incase you forgot.
Posted by Liam on Monday, 05.26.08 @ 14:59pm
GNR have been going longer than 21 years in case you forgot. Prob about 23. I was refering to the period of 88 to 93 when they were in their absolute prime and dominated record sales, radio and video play and touring revenue. Or did you forget?
Posted by Nick on Monday, 05.26.08 @ 15:18pm
"Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide" came out in '86, making it 22, so we're both wrong.
I never realised that success equated to talent. Oh wait, it doesn't, and if you had better argumentative skills you'd not use crap arguments like that.
Posted by Liam on Monday, 05.26.08 @ 15:25pm
First off, if you have read "Slash" or "W.A.R." you would know the first inception of the "Appetite" line-up went on tour in Summer 1985. Hence, my crazy 23 years theory. Second, Im fairly certain i never said success equals talent. I was refering to that guy with the top hat who shreds guitar and one of the greastest frontmen in rock history. Any dumbshit who plays guitar or has the slightest ear for music will sing the praises of Slash. Then again, you my friend, are not just any dumbshit. Youre a special breed of dumbshit only found on message boards, coffee shops and anywhere considered a hippie hotspot.
Posted by Nick on Monday, 05.26.08 @ 23:28pm
No, I'd never waste my time reading some sh*tty book about some overrated guitarist who I have absolutely no interest for.
I play guitar, and I could care less for Slash. I tend to go for guitarists with discernable talent and skill. Robin Guthrie, Frank Zappa, Joey Santiago, Johnny Marr, Will Sergeant, Steve Vai, Chuck Berry, Dave Davies, Jimmy Page, Robert Fripp, Eddie Van Halen, Andy Gill, Johnny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien and a few thousand others come to mind. Guitarists who I assume you're totally familiar with.
Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 05.27.08 @ 09:19am
Right on Nick give it to Liam! Nick you need to understand that Liam hates all of the 80's metal scene. He thinks that he is so smart yet in real life he holes up at his computer and probably can't have a verbal conversation. He loves to play the devils advocate. He likes rock n roll...supposedly plays guitar....and dislikes Slash. WOW Liam who cease to amaze me.
Posted by moterfly on Tuesday, 05.27.08 @ 17:59pm
It's called an opinion; if that amazes you simply because it differs to yours, then you're an incredibly small-minded person. And yes, I do play guitar, and I find Slash to be amongst rock's most overated guitarists. Adjectives and phrases relevant to his playing include: bloated, egoistical, repetetive, generic, simplistic, bland.
Quite ironic that the guy that can't even grasp the most basic rules of grammar says that I "probably can't have a verbal conversation." Doubtful that you noticed it, moron.
Posted by Liam on Wednesday, 05.28.08 @ 05:20am
"Moron"
I see some things never change
Posted by zippity do on Wednesday, 05.28.08 @ 14:13pm
Right or wrong, the only one on this list that I see getting in 2012 (2011 ballot) is GnR. There are a few on there that I think might get in, but on first year of eligibility, GnR. Again, right or wrong, that's just my guess.
Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 05.28.08 @ 21:08pm
As I see it, the only one eligible in 2011/2012 that will get in is Guns'n'Roses. They Might Be Giants are a remote chance since the did have some commercial success, but for sure 2011/2012 will be G'n'R battling with eight others previously on the ballot (or perhaps with an 2008/2009-eligible artist previously considered but not on any ballot).
For those who think influence is important, that is no reason to despair. I can easily imagine G'n'R being inducted in the same ceremony as the New York Dolls, to one of whose members they once wrote a tribute to.
Posted by Julien Peter Benney on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 02:14am
I can only see Guns N' Roses from that group
Unfortunately, Salt N Peppa and Eric B & Rakin will probably be inducted because the committee has a boner for rap crap right now
Posted by Keebord on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 12:08pm
Keebord, I do not see Salt N Pepa and Eric B & Rakim getting in as easily as I can earlier rap artists like the Sugarhill Gang, Beastie Boys, Run DMC, LL Cool J and (in 2012/2013) Public Enemy and N.W.A. They simply do not have the same reputation in the music industry that the most famous rappers do.
If the Sugarhill Gang and Beastie Boys do not get in at the 2009/2010 or 2010/2011 ballots, they could certainly still get in amongst the backlog of artists likely as I see it to dominate future ballotting until the leaders of the rap and grunge revolutions become eligible.
Posted by Julien Peter Benney on Friday, 09.26.08 @ 21:31pm
Guns n' Roses are overrated IMO but I do think they get in.
The most deserving from this year IMO are Guided By Voices and Yo La Tengo. You can make an argument for the Melvins, Spacemen 3 & They Might Be Giants I guess. I always thought Crowded House was one of the better Top 40 bands of the period as well, but not enough to get in.
Posted by ms.music on Saturday, 09.27.08 @ 20:09pm
gnr terrible band except for slash but theyll get in. poison prolly will, melvins should but prolly wont
Posted by argh on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 13:10pm
Slim Whitman
The Buckinghams
Family
Chris Rea
Kris Kristofferson
Tammy Wynette
Tony Orlando
Sergio Mendes
Robert Miles
Greg Trooper
Trooper
Lisa Germano
Rick Derringer
Phoebe Snow
Karla Bonoff
Bobby Caldwell
Go West
Clannad
Tone Loc
Young MC
Kool Moe Dee
Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @ 06:43am
"Keebord, I do not see Salt N Pepa and Eric B & Rakim getting in as easily as I can earlier rap artists like the Sugarhill Gang, Beastie Boys, Run DMC, LL Cool J and (in 2012/2013) Public Enemy and N.W.A. They simply do not have the same reputation in the music industry that the most famous rappers do.
If the Sugarhill Gang and Beastie Boys do not get in at the 2009/2010 or 2010/2011 ballots, they could certainly still get in amongst the backlog of artists likely as I see it to dominate future ballotting until the leaders of the rap and grunge revolutions become eligible"
Your totally wrong.Eric.B and Rakim are better than every rapper/group you named.The cold crush brothers wrote the suger hill gangs one hit and I think there overrated and not to be compared to rakim who is one of the all time greats.The beastie boys are/were garbage and overrated.LL was good but not as good as rakim and nwa is newer than eric.b and rakim not to mention nwa only had one good album.Salt and pepper shouldnt get in though they were terrible and Eric.B & Rakim should they were great.
If the beastie boys get in and not Eric.B and Rakim I will be pissed.Even wu-tang clan should get in before the beasties.
Posted by Chris on Monday, 12.1.08 @ 21:10pm
Guns N' Roses
Babyface
Eric B. & Rakim
New Kids on the Block
Salt N Pepa
The Melvins
Belinda Carlisle
Posted by Brentley on Sunday, 12.14.08 @ 12:20pm
I only see Guns N Roses as a first year!
Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 01.15.09 @ 15:23pm
Tears For Fears had lots of good music
Posted by Martin on Monday, 01.19.09 @ 14:33pm
DEEP PURPLE, WHITESNAKE, RAINBOW
Posted by Stig on Wednesday, 02.4.09 @ 05:11am
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tony Bennett
Dean Martin
Sammy Davis Jr.
Mel Torme
Peggy Lee
Ella Fitzgerald
Harry Belafonte
Perry Como
Eartha Kitt
Barbra Streisand
Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.17.09 @ 14:57pm
Bing Crosby - No
Frank Sinatra - Yes
Tony Bennett - 50/50
Dean Martin - Yes
Sammy Davis Jr. - Yes
Mel Torme - 50/50
Peggy Lee - Yes
Ella Fitzgerald - Yes
Harry Belafonte - Yes
Perry Como - No
Eartha Kitt - Yes
Barbra Streisand - 50/50
Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.17.09 @ 14:57pm
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I know, I added those opinions on.
Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 02.17.09 @ 17:53pm
EARLY INFLUENCE OR LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT INDUCTEES
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tony Bennett
Dean Martin
Sammy Davis Jr.
Mel Torme
Peggy Lee
Ella Fitzgerald
Harry Belafonte
Perry Como
Eartha Kitt
Barbra Streisand
Liza Minnelli
Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02.18.09 @ 15:32pm
EARLY INFLUENCE
Bing Crosby
Frank Sinatra
Tony Bennett
Dean Martin
Sammy Davis Jr.
Mel Torme
Perry Como
Harry Belafonte
Peggy Lee
Billie Holiday
Ella Fitzgerald
Eartha Kitt
Barbra Streisand
Liza Minnelli
ALREADY INDUCTED
Louis Armstrong
Dinah Washington
Etta James
Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.3.09 @ 16:34pm
GnR are a lock, even though I hate them. Would love to see the Melvins also, but they'll probably have to wait if they ever get in.
Posted by Ash on Saturday, 03.14.09 @ 23:41pm
I believe Dwight Yoakam should be added to your list. Not only can he play rockabilly, but many of his infulences play country rock music.
Posted by Glenda sue Kitchel on Tuesday, 04.7.09 @ 16:24pm
I was wondering how come metallica got in this year?they're first release was in 84. So they shouldve been inducted next year. Two yrs before gnr. Weird how these things work. But I am so glad they are finally getting in. And just hope axl is there to accept.
Posted by kim on Saturday, 04.11.09 @ 22:47pm
Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Dionne Warwick, Patti LaBelle, Roberta Flack, Linda Ronstadt, Bette Midler, Carole King, Carly Simon, Gloria Gaynor, Donna Summer, Dick Dale, Harry Belafonte, Chubby Checker, Gram Parsons, Cat Stevens, Jim Croce, Willie Nelson, Neil Diamond, Tom Jones, Randy Newman, Merle Haggard, Leon Russell, Joe Cocker, Barry White, Ashford and Simpson
Peter, Paul and Mary, The Kingston Trio, The Surfaris, The Hollies, Herman's Hermits, Jan and Dean, The Monkees, Chicago, Genesis, Yes, Rush, Deep Purple, King Crimson, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Jethro Tull, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper, KISS, Thin Lizzy, Heart, Cheap Trick, The Cars, Hall & Oates, Dire Straits, The Stooges, The New York Dolls, The Doobie Brothers, Electric Light Orchestra, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Kool & The Gang, The Commodores, War, Chic, Boston, Kansas, Journey, Styx
Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.17.09 @ 03:44am
An unbelievably terrible year; this is the year that Cheap Trick, Alice Cooper and New York Dolls (all of whom should have been inducted years ago) make it.
My votes:
Guns N' Roses (the lock; thank God this class has them)
Guided by Voices (they won't get in, but they're a good band and deserve at least SOME love, which they will hopefully get in this weak year)
As you may be able to tell from my preface, I would proably vote for Alice Cooper, Cheap Trick, and New York Dolls, as well, but I only list artists up for first-time induction in the "my votes" section.
The (likely) inductees:
Guns N' Roses
Alice Cooper
Cheap Trick
New York Dolls
If the last three artists don't get in this year, I'll completely discredit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as they clearly wouldn't know great music if it hit them on the back of the head. All three are very influential and have sold their fair share of records (except for the Dolls, but their direct influence on Ramones and Sex Pistols MORE than makes up for that), and it shocks me that they aren't in yet.
Posted by AreUExperienced on Monday, 07.13.09 @ 20:37pm
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
C'mon Rock'N'Roll Hall of Fame pull your heads out of your four point contact and vote in the Worlds Greatest Power Pop Band!! America's Beatles!
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick
Posted by TrickyTolles on Sunday, 09.27.09 @ 00:32am
Guns N Roses
Soundgarden
Posted by Alex on Tuesday, 11.10.09 @ 09:41am
Soundgarden's eligibility date must've been pushed back on this site...so if 2011 is the year, then they'll be a ballot/induction lock along with GNR.
Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 12.9.09 @ 19:26pm
Guns N' Roses.
Posted by Ivetta on Sunday, 12.13.09 @ 06:29am
MY 2011 NOMINEES
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Donna Summer
Sugarhill Gang
Janet Jackson
Guns N Roses
Stevie Ray Vaughan
The Zombies
Chubby Checker
Big Mama Thornton
They Might Be Giants
Posted by Lucario on Sunday, 12.27.09 @ 11:59am
Performers
Ace
Clarence Carter
Gene Chandler
Don Covay
Major Lance
Billy Stewart
Irma Thomas
Toots and The Maytals
Johnny "Guitar" Watson
The Caravans
Jimmy Smith
The Jets
Klymaxx
Ready For The World
Lawrence Welk
Minnie Riperton
David Foster
Sheriff
Alias
Mr. Mister
Shalamar
Jody Watley
The Blue Jays
The Fourmost
The Four Lads
The New Christy Minstrels
The First Edition
Leon Redbone
Early Influence
Archibald
Amos Milburn
Billy Eckstine
Bull Moose Jackson
Buddy and Ella Johnson
Billy Wright
Cecil Gant
Charley Patton
Clara Ward Singers
The Dixie Hummingbirds
Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson
Five Blind Boys Of Mississippi
Illinois Jacquet
Julia Lee
Joe Liggins
Joe Morris
Jimmy Preston
Jimmy Witherspoon
Larry Darnell
Lionel Hampton
Lucky Millinder
Nellie Lutcher
The Pilgrim Travelers
Pine Top Smith
Paul "Hucklebuck" Williams
The Ravens
Roy Milton
The Sensational Nightingales
Sister Rosetta Tharpe
Tiny Bradshaw
The Treniers
Wild Bill Moore
Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.29.09 @ 09:57am
Roy, would you be so kind as to narrow your choices down to eight performers and one early influence? Thank you.
Posted by Lucario on Tuesday, 12.29.09 @ 12:46pm
i see ONE that stands out from them all, Guns N Roses!!
Posted by heyyy on Wednesday, 12.30.09 @ 16:50pm
where in the hell is Alice Cooper ?
Should have been inducted already
Damn Shame
Posted by Billy on Monday, 03.15.10 @ 23:03pm
What about Journey? They were around LONG BEFORE Guns N Roses and Cindrella! And when I speak of inducting Journey I mean the REAL JOURNEY with Steve Perry!
Posted by Lisa on Sunday, 03.21.10 @ 18:20pm
I can't believe Deep Purple aren't on that list. They've been going 42 years - still recording and touring, sold over 100 million albums, they were the biggest album seller in the US in 1973 (more than Zeppelin, Stones anyone!) 3 albums in the top ten at 1 point, were in the Guinness book of Records as the loudest band in the world, written the most famous guitar riff ever as well as influencing thousands of guitar players. Not to mention influencing Metallica, Iron Maiden, Def Leppard etc Sabbath are only in there cos Ozzys a big celeb these days. Back in the day they were 3rd behind Zep and Purple in terms of popularity.
Alice Cooper should be there too.
Posted by stratpack on Tuesday, 03.23.10 @ 07:49am
Concrete Blonde - you know, the latest fad group called Lady Antebellum owes majorly to Concrete Blonde.
Guns N Roses - they brought feeling/stories/emotion/anger even back to hard rock, which was mostly only about partying in the mid 80s.
Salt N Pepa - I think personally that 'Push It' is easily the most played dance song of all time.
Posted by 3MTA3 on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 16:36pm
2011 hopes
Mose Allison
Peggy Lee
Chicago
Donavon
Peter Paul an Mary
Kingston Trio
Leon Russel
Dr John
Ella Fitzgerald
The Zombies
Ringo
Carol Kay
Chubby Checker
Surfais
Kingsmen
Grass Roots
Runaways
Carpenters
Monkeys
Johnny Winter
Jimmy Page
Cats Stevens
Tiny Tim
Big Bopper
Sony & Cher
Neil Diamond
Johnny Rivers
Link Wray
Connie Frances
Patsy Kline
Annette Funicello
Herbie Hancock
Ike Turner
Joan Baez
John Mayall and the BluesBreakers
To name a few I would be happy if 1 got in...
Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 22:40pm
2011 hopes
Mose Allison
Peggy Lee
Chicago
Donavon
Peter Paul an Mary
Kingston Trio
Leon Russel
Dr John
Ella Fitzgerald
The Zombies
Ringo
Carol Kay
Chubby Checker
Surfais
Kingsmen
Grass Roots
Runaways
Carpenters
Monkeys
Johnny Winter
Jimmy Page
Cats Stevens
Tiny Tim
Big Bopper
Sony & Cher
Neil Diamond
Johnny Rivers
Link Wray
Connie Frances
Patsy Kline
Annette Funicello
Herbie Hancock
Ike Turner
Joan Baez
John Mayall and the BluesBreakers
To name a few I would be happy if 1 got in...
add ons Crickets
Big Brother and the Holding Company
Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 22:52pm
011 hopes
Mose Allison
Peggy Lee
Chicago
Donavon
Peter Paul an Mary
Kingston Trio
Leon Russel
Dr John
Ella Fitzgerald
The Zombies
Ringo
Carol Kay
Chubby Checker
Surfais
Kingsmen
Grass Roots
Runaways
Carpenters
Monkeys
Johnny Winter
Jimmy Page
Cats Stevens
Tiny Tim
Big Bopper
Sony & Cher
Neil Diamond
Johnny Rivers
Link Wray
Connie Frances
Patsy Kline
Annette Funicello
Herbie Hancock
Ike Turner
Joan Baez
John Mayall and the BluesBreakers
To name a few I would be happy if 1 got in...
add ons Crickets
Big Brother and the Holding Company
Fire Balls
Fabulous Wailers
Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 22:52p
Posted by mrxyz on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 22:55pm
I can't believe Iron Maiden isn't even mentioned on that list. I mean Iron Maiden have done more for music than Metallica...
Posted by Forestis on Saturday, 03.27.10 @ 15:47pm
I can't believe no one listed Bruce Hornsby and the Range. They have won 3 grammy's. Also he did induct the grateful Dead into the hall of fame so you know that the recognize him as an artist. He is so underrated it isn't funny. There is a reason he won best new artist in 1987 he is one of the best.
Posted by mgregg on Monday, 04.5.10 @ 12:39pm
J. Geils Band is getting a lot of attention with the release of Peter Wolf's new album.
Posted by folkfan on Wednesday, 04.7.10 @ 16:09pm
Guns N' Roses probably will make it.
Posted by MC on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 15:12pm
GUNS N ROSES
Posted by ricardo requena on Monday, 04.26.10 @ 08:33am
Whoa. What happened to Deep Purple, Rush, Thin Lizzy, and Stevie Ray Vaughan? Every single one of those people I just mentioned dusts anyone on this list.
Posted by Obelix on Wednesday, 04.28.10 @ 18:28pm
Where is Willie Nelson he was just not a country singer but one of the greatest songwriters of all genre of music.
Stevie Ray Vaughan needs consideration also.
Posted by cl mccormick on Sunday, 05.2.10 @ 22:22pm
Why aren't Bon Jovi, Boston, Foreigner, and Journey not on the list?
Those four bands contributed a lot to the music world, as well as had some of the most noticeable songs in history.
Posted by Dave R. on Monday, 06.14.10 @ 15:51pm
Where is BON JOVI?! This is a thread for the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame, isn't it?
They are one of the greatest bands of the '80s, which means their first album was released before '86.
Guided by Voices and Poison were good, but still, we're missing way too many even bigger and better bands.
Posted by molecule on Monday, 06.14.10 @ 15:57pm
To Dave R. and molecule:
The reason Bon Jovi, Boston, Foreigner, and Journey are not on this list is they are not first eligible in 2011. All four bands are already eligible. Also none of these bands are that worthy of getting into the Hall of Fame.
Posted by Gassman on Monday, 06.14.10 @ 17:51pm
Tom Waits? Willie Dixon? Howling Wolf?
Posted by Philo Beddoe on Saturday, 06.19.10 @ 22:25pm
Tom Waits? Willie Dixon? Howling Wolf?
Posted by Philo Beddoe on Saturday, 06.19.10 @ 22:25pm
Guns shouldn't be inducted but they probably will. I think Soundgarden will make it eventually (and rightfully so), but they might be forced to wait behind Nirvana and Pearl Jam. The Melvins should be inducted but probably won't. Eric B. & Rakim should be inducted, I hear.
Posted by Sam on Friday, 06.25.10 @ 20:26pm
I haven't really thought about any predictions for Cleveland's Class of 2011 but maybe I should have, don't they announce the nominees a month from now after all? Anyway, I'll thinks about it. Expect to hear more from me within the next few weeks on the topic
Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Sunday, 08.1.10 @ 13:20pm
"think"
Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Sunday, 08.1.10 @ 13:25pm
What about Alice Cooper? How can they leave out this band.
Posted by Karl on Wednesday, 08.25.10 @ 08:53am
Alice Cooper is already eligible, but I agree he should be inducted.
Posted by Sam on Thursday, 08.26.10 @ 17:58pm
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Posted by susie davis on Wednesday, 09.29.10 @ 12:35pm
Hellooooooooooooooooo......... Chicago and Blood, Sweat and Tears should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Think of the ensemble of the group. Santana had along with Carlos Santana, great drummer Micheal Shrieve and original members from Journey, Gregg Rollie and Neal Schon, also legends in their craft. Parliament Funkadelic had a great ensemble that included George Clinton, Bootsy Collins and Bernie Worrell. Sly and the Family Stone.. Sly Stone, Larry Graham, eventually on his own with Graham Central Station and drummer Gregg Errico. Black Sabbath besides Ozzy and Iommi had R.J. Dio and an Appice. All of these groups are inducted but one group with Robert Lamm, James Pankow, Peter Cetera,Terry Kath, Danny Seraphine, Walter Parrazaider and Bill Champlin and another with Al Kooper, David Clayton Thomas,Bobby Colomby, Fred Lipsius, Jim Fielder, Randy Brecker, Lew Soloff,and even Tom Malone, Lou Marini, Georg Wadenius, jazz greats Mike Stern and the late Jaco Pastorius aren't!? Miles Davis is probably ashamed to be above and see what is happening with The Hall of Fame. PLEASE Induct Chicago and Blood, Sweat and Tears!
Posted by Brad on Sunday, 10.3.10 @ 00:42am
WILLY DEVILLE (Mink DeVille band) a true original rock and roll music composer, musician and performer whose lifelong passionate dedication, contibution to and rare ad remarkable performances o great rock and roll music continues to influence and inspire his fellow and future rock and roll musicians and fans from around the world!
Posted by Kat on Sunday, 10.3.10 @ 17:08pm
Soundgarden
and possibly the melvins for having influenced them
also, they might be giants
the rest can go to hell including GnR
Posted by ranjit on Sunday, 10.3.10 @ 18:02pm
weird al yankovic
Posted by t on Thursday, 11.18.10 @ 21:56pm
Analysis of these. Here, I'll give an overview of the top 5 commercial successes from this class:
Guns 'n' Roses (also the most critically acclaimed of this bunch)
Why they will get in: Great band. Heads and shoulders above the rest of their class in success. They have plenty of friends connected to/in the Hall who will support them.
Why they won't get in: Odds are slim that the current Axl-led incarnation will show up, let alone perform, so any performance would be Slash, Duff and Matt (maybe with Izzy, but probably not) with a guest vocalist, and maybe another guest or two. How many people would tune in to watch that? In addition, the Hall's shown a distaste towards plenty of Hard Rock.
Who would benefit from their induction? Well, some of those Hard Rock snubs I alluded to might be rectified after that. If Slash shows up, he'll probably give Motley Crue a shout-out. Hopefully their induction would get KISS, New York Dolls, MC5 and Alice Cooper (that's assuming he doesn't get in on this try, which I think he will) back on the ballot; there are at least good chances of those.
Verdict: No doubt they get in. Strong chances for getting in first ballot, it could be tougher second year if they don't, third year Nirvana could overshadow them, but after that it gets easier. If not first ballot then a few years after. Lock.
New Kids on the Block
Why they will get in: A commercial power-house, the second biggest success story here behind Guns 'n' Roses. For a couple of years they were one of the biggest bands in not just the US but the whole world, to the tune of 70 million records sold. The induction of ABBA last year and this year's nomination of Neil Diamond has shown they don't view pop music as a dirty word.
Why they won't get in: They were detested by both critics and rock purists back in their heyday, and nothing's really changed since then. Specifics on this: There are two teen idols in the Hall, and those are Frankie Lymon & the Teenagers and The Jackson 5. They got in because they were such titans of R&B that it was difficult to overlook them. Teen idols with the exception of them, from The Monkees to Take That to Britney Spears, have struggled for respect; that's just how it is, fairly or unfairly.
Who would benefit from their induction? Obviously the stand-out teen idols that followed them: The Backstreet Boys, N'SYNC, Britney. It may also force the Hall to get The Monkees on the ballot, as they did eventually become legit. Maybe other major pop stars from NKOTB's heyday like George Michael could have an easier shot.
Verdict: Highly unlikely, for the reasons I mentioned. Fairly or unfairly, the Hall would lose lots of the credibility they have left if this happened.
Poison
Why they will get in: A fun band with some decent tunes. Are respected in some quarters for how hard they work. The fact that Bon Jovi is probably getting in this year means that they should have an easier time. with it.
Why they won't get in: Critics. Many Hard Rock and Metal fans will also fight this happening. Shoot, even in the hair metal/pop-metal world some people despise them, as they've sometimes been accused (apparently Nikki Sixx did) of watering the sound down and contributing to it's ruin.
Who would benefit from their induction? They might give Motley a proper look. Def Leppard might get on the ballot, as might other overlooked glam and Hard Rock artists. KISS might get back on the ballot, as might New York Dolls. Other hairbands might get in as well, like Ratt and Warrant.
Verdict: Odds are slim to none. Motley Crue, Def Leppard and KISS would all have to get in before they got a proper look, and I don't see that happening.
Bobby Brown
Why he will get in: Very succesful for a decent period of time. The Hall likes R&B.
Why he won't get in: I don't think he's very important to R&B, and there are other more notable snubs before him. He hasn't been succesful for about 15-20 years, and sometimes his personal life has overshadowed his music. Not very critically respected either.
Who would benefit from his induction? More notable R&B snubs.
Verdict: Slim chances.
Soundgarden
Why they will get in: As far as innovation and influence are concerned they're easily worthy; for one thing they're first-wave grunge. Each member of the band has great chops, and they have plenty of critical respect: They rank high on various Hard Rock related polls, Chris Cornell and Kim Thayil have charted well on various singer and guitarist lists, respectively, and Superunknown is widely considered one of the best albums of the 90's. It sold well as well. They're also the third most critically acclaimed act of this class.
Why they won't get in: Hard Rock and Metal aren't areas the Hall knows much about. In addition, Soundgarden didn't really start breaking into the mainstream until Badmotorfinger, and didn't become stars until Superunknown, meaning that some people might overlook them and make them wait behind Nirvana, Pearl Jam, RHCP and Rage Against the Machine.
Who would benefit from their induction? Well, if they were to get in before Nirvana and Pearl Jam (almost no chance of that), then it would be even easier for those bands to get in. The roads for Alice in Chains and Tool would be easier. Some post-grunge bands such as Stone Temple Pilots who owe a debt to them. Early American Alternative bands such as Husker Du, The Replacements and Sonic Youth could be given a proper and fair look after this, as could Soundgarden's first-wave/underground grunge contemporaries such as The Melvins.
Verdict: Actually, I don't think it'll be too difficult. They'll be inducted in due course, it'll just take awhile.
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Other major critical stand-out: Eric B. & Rakim
Why they will get in: Second most critically acclaimed artist from this class behind Guns 'n' Roses, and one of the most respected rap groups of all time. Considered highly important in the world of hip-hop.
Why they won't get in: Their sales are rather low (not that it should matter at all, just saying it could hurt them). In addition, the Hall is struggling with hip-hop: The only first-ballot induction so far is Run DMC. It took three tries to get Grandmaster Flash in, and even they technically didn't get in on that try, when you take into account that The Dave Clark Five would've beaten them for the final spot if everyone had turned their votes in before the deadline. There are earlier hip-hop pioneers not in yet, though either The Beastie Boys or LL Cool J will likely get in on this try.
Who would benefit from their induction? Whichever one doesn't get in on this vote, of course. The earlier hip-hop pioneers could benefit, as could rappers that come later who have a real chance.
Verdict: 50-50 on this one. I think it's just a "wait and see" kind of thing.
I'd induct The Melvins but they'll never even be nominated.
Posted by Sam on Sunday, 11.28.10 @ 08:17am
I also think that the results of this year's inductions will be pivotal to Eric B. & Rakim's chances. All of the rappers inducted so far are both considered to be among the all-time greats and have impacted rock in some way. If the Hall continues this and only inducts those who have affected rock (Beastie Boys, Public Enemy) then Eric B. & Rakim will be left out in the cold. If, however, they induct anyone who they consider to be hip-hop titans, then Eric B. & Rakim will have a very good chance of being inducted. LL Cool J could be inducted this year, and he falls into the "not affected rock, but considered to be among the elite" category, and he could be the first of that kind to be inducted. If he gets in on this try then Eric B. & Rakim will go in my book from "50-50"/"toss-up" to "Strong Chances".
I may have rambled a bit there, but I hope the point was clear.
Posted by Sam on Sunday, 11.28.10 @ 09:13am
American Music Club
Babyface
Boredoms
Cowboy Junkies
Eric B. & Rakim
Guided By Voices
Guns N' Roses
The Jayhawks
Lyle Lovett
Matthew Sweet
The Melvins
Michelle Shocked
Salt N Pepa
Soundgarden
Spacemen 3
They Might Be Giants
Throwing Muses
World Party
Yo La Tengo
Despite what people want to think about GNR and Soundgarden, there are no newly eligibles for this year that really jump out and grab a person by the throat. I seem to be one of the only people of my ilk that actually like GNR, but I don't think that they are as great as their fanboys seem to think. Soundgarden is good enough as well, even hallworthy, but also quite overrated, probably due to their association with "grunge".
Eric B. & Rakim are the third in this trio of "notables". I'd probably rate them easily above the aforementioned groups due to the fact that there is a good argument for Rakim as the greatest MC of all time, whereas GNR and Soundgarden can't be argued as having the greatest anything (Maybe douchebag? See Axl Rose).
Babyface has had an excellent recording career, but as I've mentioned on his page, his place in the hall is most likely as a non-performer.
The two bands on this list that jump out to me are two that people habitually ignore -- Guided By Voices and Yo La Tengo. Both are "indie" legends, this is an almost inarguable fact. "Indie", as a movement, has been producing the most innovative music since the late 70's and it has probably been the most ubiquitous "genre" or movement since the movement proper in the early 90's. This has culminated, almost unbelievably, in Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" nomination for album of the year this year.
Like it or not, it's also the wave of the future. With evermore readily available Lo-fi/DIY methods and the internet, more and more fascinating artists and sounds are being discovered yearly.
I don't really give a shit about "indie" or "mainstream" or whatever. I'm a music fan, and most of the music that I enjoy that has been released over the past 25 or 30 years probably falls under the "indie" umbrella. AND almost ALL of popular music's innovations since the Velvets have come from what some on this site have termed "indie groups".
Note to the Phillistines -- Don't shoot the messenger.
Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 12.2.10 @ 18:05pm
Lets see if I have this straight...
Guns n Roses and Soundgarden don't jump out at you, and those who support them are "fanboys," yet you then pine for the induction of Guided By Voices and Yo La Tengo?
Irony, thy name is Chalkie.
Posted by Ralph on Friday, 12.3.10 @ 08:09am
"Guns n Roses and Soundgarden don't jump out at you"
Nope, not as locks/no-brainers/all-time legends they don't. And if they do to you a history lesson is in order.
"and those who support them are 'fanboys'"
Obviously not, I support both of them and I'm a fanboy of neither group.
"yet you then pine for the induction of Guided By Voices and Yo La Tengo?"
What gave you that impression? Both bands are easily deserving of the Hall and fit all the criterion. Also, I like them. If they don't get inducted (and they most likely won't) I won't pine away or post frothing, irrational comments on their pages.
You shot your eye out Ralphie.
Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 12.3.10 @ 12:15pm
"I seem to be one of the only people of my ilk that actually like GNR"
I like them, but I also don't think they're as great or as deserving as some people would have you believe.
Posted by Sam on Friday, 12.3.10 @ 13:22pm
"Indie", as a movement, has been producing the most innovative music since the late 70's and it has probably been the most ubiquitous "genre" or movement since the movement proper in the early 90's. This has culminated, almost unbelievably, in Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" nomination for album of the year this year.
Like it or not, it's also the wave of the future. With evermore readily available Lo-fi/DIY methods and the internet, more and more fascinating artists and sounds are being discovered yearly.
I don't really give a shit about "indie" or "mainstream" or whatever. I'm a music fan, and most of the music that I enjoy that has been released over the past 25 or 30 years probably falls under the "indie" umbrella. AND almost ALL of popular music's innovations since the Velvets have come from what some on this site have termed "indie groups".
Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 12.2.10 @ 18:05pm
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Chalk - Love your take on everything here, though I do have reservations on some things. First, Gn'R/Soundgarden should be locks. You seem to have a notion that they were just "big-loud-dumb" rock acts. You can make an argument against this, partially in the case of Gn'R, & quite stridently for SG. You reference the indie "movement" of the early 90's. If you are referring to alt-rock, my question is this: wouldn't SG have been outed as a "big-dumb-loud" rock act w/nothing to bring to the table during these yrs., which also happen to coincide w/their peak artistic years?
I'm not really busting your hub here, o.k. I happen to believe that you do have a point in regards to "indie" being a fountain of creativity. I think this discounts Metallica/Megadeth, QueensOTSA, System of a Down, Pearl Jam, Wolfmother, & a few others who might not fit in as well as you'd like (Gn'R/SG in there), but I'll not quibble - HERE. My big problem is: How do you drag Indie into the mainstream sector & hook it up w/harder edged rock?
Metal proved in the 80's (w/a few exceptions) that it can't go pop, or it loses it's edge. You didn't have to worry about this in the 70's, cause there was plenty of stuff for metal to look fearsome against. Call it the Captain & Tennille ratio: the level of coolness = level of wildness/ % of mainstream acts. Likewise, it also works in the other direction as well. One cannot rebel against James Taylor & Carly Simon by cranking up "A Horse With No Name".
Rock is like a Tootsie Pop in reverse - it must have a solid center to work. Right now there is no solid center to work with, outside of a few acts (Cage The Elephant, Band of Skulls...).
Seattle/Lollapalooza got it right by inviting metalheads to the show, even if they didn't want to acknowledge they were there. Lots of alt-rockers have acknowlegded metal - Dave Grohl, Rivers Cuomo, Billy Corgan. So how do you drag the progeny of GBV & Yo La Tengo back towards the middle? How do you get them to REALLY rock?
Here's hoping for that happy meeting between Thom Yorke & Lemmy Kilmeister. Just think of it...
They could form MotorRadio... or even Head Head... the possibilities are endless!
Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 05:45am
Glenn Danzig
(The Misfits, Samhain, Danzig)
Posted by tl on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 09:11am
"First, Gn'R/Soundgarden should be locks. You seem to have a notion that they were just "big-loud-dumb" rock acts."
I guess this is the krux of the argument. I like both GnR and Soundgarden, and I support their induction. I just don't see them as innercircle no-brainers.
"Metallica/Megadeth, QueensOTSA, System of a Down, Pearl Jam, Wolfmother, & a few others who might not fit in as well as you'd like"
I support all these groups inductions EXCEPT Wolfmother, who's music I find completely and utterly derivative, mainly of Zeppelin.
Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 09:27am
"I support all these groups inductions EXCEPT Wolfmother, who's music I find completely and utterly derivative, mainly of Zeppelin."
How could anyone with 1 functioning ear not born after 1995 not find the music of Pearl Jam "completely and utterly derivative"
Think Grand Funk Railroad's "I'm Your Captain" or Steppenwolf's "Monster"
Posted by Arrow Man on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 12:28pm
"Think Grand Funk Railroad's "I'm Your Captain" or Steppenwolf's "Monster""
Except that those groups suck.
Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 15:42pm
If A = sucks and B = sucks and Pearl Jam = A + B Then
Pearl Jam = sucks x 2
End if
Posted by Arrow Man on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 16:01pm
Meh.
Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 16:08pm
There's nothing wrong with GFR or Steppenwolf. Great rock bands.
Posted by Philip on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 16:35pm
If A = sucks and B = sucks and Pearl Jam = A + B Then
Pearl Jam = sucks x 2
End if
Posted by Arrow Man on Saturday, 12.4.10 @ 16:01pm
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This is only if you're buying into the notion that Pearl Jam is a rip-off of GFR & Steppenwolf.
Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 12.5.10 @ 13:19pm
And it's also only if you believe that GFR & Steppenwolf suck. I don't believe that. I do believe Pearl Jam, shall we say, borrowed heavily from that type of music, especially I'm Your Captain.
Posted by Arrow Man on Sunday, 12.5.10 @ 13:46pm
And it's also only if you believe that GFR & Steppenwolf suck. I don't believe that. I do believe Pearl Jam, shall we say, borrowed heavily from that type of music, especially I'm Your Captain.
Posted by Arrow Man on Sunday, 12.5.10 @ 13:46pm
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Then I take it that you're not necessarily knocking the band. After all, in your first post you said that Pearl Jam were "completely & utterly derivative". However, there's no rule that says you can't still like a band, even if it is "completely & utterly derivative".
There are plenty of cases like you mentioned:
"Satisfaction" + "Black Dog" = Aerosmith
"Walk This Way" + "Back In Black" = Guns N' Roses
"Louie Louie + "Psychotic Reaction" = Ramones
Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 12.6.10 @ 05:20am
Exactly when did the lemonheads, Matthew sweet, and babyface release an album in 1980? And exactly why would any of them be inducted anyway?
Posted by nick s on Monday, 12.6.10 @ 23:32pm
"However, there's no rule that says you can't still like a band, even if it is 'completely & utterly derivative'."
While nobody said a band that has ever been derivative can't make the Hall. I won't name names, but sometimes that excuse has been used. Kind of like Zeppelin and the Stones copping riffs and lyric bits from old bluesmen? Or Elvis supposedly stealing his shtick from black artists? I don't see anybody saying they should be chucked out, and rightfully so. Blur got their start by ripping off The Stone Roses* (they were good Roses copyists, but still). One of the more popular bands of the last decade, Muse, are Radiohead-copyists. Some people have called Nirvana a Pixies-tribute band. The list probably goes on and on. While we're on the subject of Pearl Jam, they were two of the most copied bands of the 90's.
*I saw this claim made on another site, though in a slightly different context, and it opened up a real can of worms:
"Incidentally, The Stone Roses when they started out were Bauhaus/Bunnymen copyists. They recorded some bad singles in the mid 80s that were poor man's U2 and made Cactus World News seem like a good idea. Then they recorded a single that copied a Primal Scream song. The Stone Roses also became Simon and Garfkunkel copyists, Nuggets-copyists, Dukes of Stratosphear copyists, Pale Fountains-copyists, Can-copyists, and Led Zep-copyists...so maybe not a great example if talking about a band being bad as they copied?"
I can't hear any similarities to Zeppelin, Bauhaus or the Bunnymen in the Roses catalogue, but I've been wrong before. Would someone like to confirm or deny the rest of it? What I do know is that the "She Bangs the Drums" B-Side "Mersey Paradise" sounds a lot like "Here Comes the Sun", and "Love Spreads" is a "Voodoo Child" rip-off.
Posted by Sam on Friday, 12.10.10 @ 10:35am
One of the greatest group of musicians and writers from what I can tell is not under consideration and the band is "KANSAS".
HOW CAN THEY NOT BE CONSIDERED
Posted by george on Thursday, 12.16.10 @ 08:42am
ERIC B & RAKIM all the way!
Posted by MC on Wednesday, 01.12.11 @ 14:35pm
"While we're on the subject of Pearl Jam, they were two of the most copied bands of the 90's."
Sorry, that should say "one of the most copied". I was thinking about Alice in Chains at the same time.
Posted by Sam on Saturday, 01.15.11 @ 11:44am
Pretty good list, but do they need to be inducted before other artists before them that have not received honor: Ramsey Lewis, Sonny and Cher, Ashford and Simpson, Barry White, Don Cornelius/Soul Train, Dionne Warwick, Albert King, Rufus Thomas, Glen Campbell, at one time Gospel Music was looked at, they inducted Mahalia Jackson and The Soul Stirrers,how about The Caravans, Andrea Crouch, Rev. C. L. Franklin and others! Disco KC and The Sunshine Band, Donna Summer, The Ohio Players..the hall of fame needs to think about people like this because they have contributed to music years before 1986
Posted by eric less on Thursday, 02.3.11 @ 22:55pm
My list for next years Hall of Fame:
The Shangri-Las
Tommy James & the Shondells
Deep Purple
The Beastie Boys
The Cure
This list is pretty white-have to think of some African American artists.
Posted by chris on Tuesday, 05.3.11 @ 20:58pm
Is there any hard criterion for the non-performer category? I would think that Annie Liebowitz (sp?) would be worthy.
Posted by Joe on Monday, 05.23.11 @ 22:41pm
What about Fela Kuti ???
Posted by Gordy C on Sunday, 06.12.11 @ 14:23pm
"I do believe Pearl Jam, shall we say, borrowed heavily from that type of music, especially I'm Your Captain."
Nah man, wrong. And yeah, those groups do suck.
Posted by Chalkie on Monday, 06.13.11 @ 19:02pm
"I do believe Pearl Jam, shall we say, borrowed heavily from that type of music, especially I'm Your Captain."
Nah man, wrong. And yeah, those groups do suck.
Posted by Chalkie on Monday, 06.13.11 @ 19:02pm
After 6 months that's all you could come up with for an answer? Did you even bother listening to I'm Your Captain or Monster and then to Pearl Jam right after? If you don't hear any similarities then you're in a state of denial.
Posted by Arrow Man on Monday, 06.13.11 @ 20:14pm
I listened to them 6 months ago and noticed a slight similarity but not enough to call them derivative or a ripoff. I pretty much just felt like being obtuse.
Posted by Chalkie on Monday, 06.13.11 @ 20:32pm
Babyface
Bob Geldof
Bobby Brown
Bruce Hornsby and the Range
Cowboy Junkies
Crowded House
Eric B. & Rakim
Glass Tiger
Guns N' Roses
New Kids On The Block
Poison
Roxette
Salt N Pepa
Soundgarden
Yo La Tengo
Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 06.21.11 @ 08:20am
Guns N Roses and Soundgarden are in my opinion the only 2 artist from the new eligible artist who have a chance at induction. If I had to pick an artist that would be in the 3rd slot, it would be Salt N Pepa
Based on the albums and songs project as of 6/23/2011. I would say that this is my predictions for the class of 2012
1. Deep Purple
2. KISS
3. Kraftwerk
4. Red Hot Chili Peppers
5. Roxy Music
GNR will make it in 2013, and Soundgarden in 2016.
Once the album and song project reaches to 2011 music, and is put on hold, then I will make a final prediction for the 2012 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees and inductions
Posted by Kyle on Thursday, 06.23.11 @ 22:20pm
I can't wait for September!
Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.8.11 @ 06:43am
Pretty slim pickin's for 1986. I think both Guns 'n Roses & Eric B. & Rakim will be nominated. I do not believe Axl & company are a lock, however. And with E.B.&R. eligible , that means we won't be subjected to another L.L. Cool J. by default nomination. If any of them actually
get inducted it will be G'n'R. Soundgarden will eventually get in but not right off the bat, not until after Nirvana & Pearl Jam have become eligible(and made it in the first year). Lyle Lovett & Salt & Pepa have a chance of getting in eventually, and Babyface will likely get a non-perfoemer nod somewhere down the line.
Posted by Sounder on Saturday, 07.9.11 @ 01:17am
If your going to take the top bands fron a specific type of music the you have to take Cheap Trick. They are by far the greatest power pop band on the planet. But I feel they will not get considered until thier bus goes over the cliff. Quite a shame.
Posted by Starfish on Thursday, 07.14.11 @ 13:39pm
GNR definitely seem like the best bet for a first-year-eligible nomination(and induction).
Would be cool for Salt N Pepa, as those gals were at the forefront of female rap. But, does SNP have enough GREAT material? Not that that's stopped past nominees- Percy Sledge, anyone?
Posted by JR on Saturday, 07.16.11 @ 13:12pm
As of 7/24/2011......based on both the songs and albums project.....here are the artist I think will make it in 2012 so far
1. Whitney Houston
Call me crazy on this one.......but she hold the same platform as artist like Madonna, Michael Jackson, and Janet Jackson. Although she doesn't have any songs or albums inducted in either project yet.....Her voice can't be denyed.....Mariah Carey will also be in that platform when she's eligible
2. Gun N Roses
It's time for the craziness to happen. the question of all questions. Will Guns N Roses reunite together??? Will Axl and Slash be on stage together??? It will be interesting to see if they will stuck it up or pull a Sex Pistols and Van Halen.
3. Chic
They have been nominated over and over again, so they'll make it in
4. Donna Summer and 5. Gram Parsons
Same case as Chic
My Nominees that will miss the cut in 2012
Electric Light Orchestra, The Cars, Roxy Music, The Cure, Beastie Boys, LL Cool J, Mary Wells, Kraftwerk, Red Hot Chili Peppers, KISS
Posted by Kyle on Sunday, 07.24.11 @ 10:49am
My wishlist this year:
Bad Brains
Captain Beefheart (& His Magic Band)
Joy Division
Kraftwerk
Sonic Youth
Non-Performer:
Lee "Scratch" Perry
No chance of it happening, but hey...
Posted by Chalkie on Wednesday, 08.17.11 @ 19:13pm
GN'R
Soundgarden
Eric B & Rakim
Posted by Cloonie on Monday, 08.22.11 @ 18:11pm
Whitney was a tremendous vocalist at her peak, but she's not in the same league as acts like Madonna and Michael Jackson, in terms of how they changed the entertainment/music landscape or how their work is perceived. It's tough for acts known mostly for their voices to get recognition- see Barbra Streisand. And if the committee doesn't give Whitney serious consideration, don't expect Mimi Carey (whose never been a critical success- at least compared to those who have enjoyed big critical kudos) to be a contender when she's eligible.
Posted by JR on Tuesday, 08.23.11 @ 09:26am
Hall and Oates, for God's sake
Posted by Judy on Friday, 09.9.11 @ 12:21pm
Give me a f#$%ing break! Is the R&R HOF dissing Chicago because richard M. Nixon touted them?
Posted by Rick on Thursday, 09.22.11 @ 13:40pm
WHAT ABOUT BON JOVI AND KISS DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by danny on Wednesday, 01.11.12 @ 21:58pm
what about the moody blues. steppenwolf.chicago.jethro tull. yes.emerson ,lake and palmer these are bands have been overlooked
Posted by scott papel on Thursday, 02.2.12 @ 12:14pm
this page is for discussing bands that first showed up in 1986. but I do agree, those bands have definitely been overlooked.
Posted by GFW on Thursday, 02.2.12 @ 14:32pm
GBV and YLT, as two of the most important 'Indie' bands of all time, with vast bodies of quality work and multiple classic albums to each of their names, undoubtedly deserve induction. However, there is a seemingly insurmountable backlog of snubs ahead of them. Really is a shame.
Posted by Chalkie on Saturday, 06.16.12 @ 14:57pm
"If only the Pitchfork staff were the ones that had the final say on whose up for nomination..."
Yeah, because we totally need 20-something year old hipsters to evaluate what constitutes great music. What are the chances that these schmucks know anything about music dating back before, oh, The Beatles (One of the very few acts to achieve any commercial success that hipsters will admit to liking)?
Pitchfork's a complete joke of a site as far as credible reviews go. Go read Ryan Schneider's condescending review of The Cars Deluxe Edition for proof of Pitchfork's douchebaggery.
Music criticism these days reminds me of a high school cafeteria. All the cliques have to sit at their own tables and excoriate anyone who doesn't fit their preconceived notions about what's "cool" and what isn't "cool". Grow up and leave the high school mentality where it belongs. Yes, it is entirely possible to enjoy both mainstream and independent music without favoring one over the other.
This whole mentality that music that isn't mainstream is automatically great, and that music that is mainstream is automatically bad, needs to be exterminated. It's right up there with the "sell-out" label in terms of obnoxiousness.
Posted by Zach on Thursday, 09.27.12 @ 13:18pm
I wouldn't mind them taking over for a bit, might go for a few alt bands rather than scraping the 60's barrel some more.
Posted by GFW on Thursday, 09.27.12 @ 13:25pm
I agree that the well for eligible 1960s acts has run dry except for The Zombies, The Marvelettes, and perhaps 2 or 3 others.
Ignoring an act who has achieved commercial success AND has lasting musical influence/cultural impact/importance (e.g., Stevie Ray Vaughan) in favor someone who did none of those things is insane and ignorant.
Posted by Zach on Thursday, 09.27.12 @ 13:37pm
When I say alt i mean bands like Joy Division ,The Cure and such.
Posted by GFW on Thursday, 09.27.12 @ 14:03pm
Gotcha. In that case I totally agree with you.
Posted by Zach on Thursday, 09.27.12 @ 14:05pm
"If only the Pitchfork staff were the ones that had the final say on whose up for nomination..."
Yeah, because we totally need 20-something year old hipsters to evaluate what constitutes great music.
Posted by Zach on Thursday, 09.27.12 @ 13:18pm
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No offense meant here...
But aren't you technically a part of this group? :)
I wouldn't go dumping on Pitchfork, even though they are a wee bit elitist. After all, rock & roll should be controlled by people between the ages of 15-25, for the most part. You can't knock them for wanting to get the word out, even if it does contradict what you're feeling.
Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 09.28.12 @ 06:35am
Wasn't rock & roll supposed to be the playground of the common man? There shouldn't be any 1 group of people controlling it because then it reeks of the very elitism that rock & roll is against. Rock & roll is for everyone: black, white, young, old, rich, poor, smart, dumb.
Posted by Arrow Man on Friday, 09.28.12 @ 11:37am
Wasn't rock & roll supposed to be the playground of the common man? There shouldn't be any 1 group of people controlling it because then it reeks of the very elitism that rock & roll is against. Rock & roll is for everyone: black, white, young, old, rich, poor, smart, dumb.
Posted by Arrow Man on Friday, 09.28.12 @ 11:37am
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True. However, rock & roll is primarily made by the young, for consumption by the young. There's no law against 50 yr. old rock & rollers; however, there will always be more 25 yr. old's making it, and consuming it. It's not ageism so much as a matter of lifestyle. How many 50 yr. old's will commit to the rock & roll lifestyle, From The Start Point?
Not many 50 yr. old's are prepared to start in the garage & make their way to the top in this manner.
Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 09.28.12 @ 16:02pm
No offense meant here...
But aren't you technically a part of this group? :)
I wouldn't go dumping on Pitchfork, even though they are a wee bit elitist. After all, rock & roll should be controlled by people between the ages of 15-25, for the most part. You can't knock them for wanting to get the word out, even if it does contradict what you're feeling.
Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 09.28.12 @ 06:35am
To be specific, I'm 24 years old, (Just celebrated my birthday this month). So yes, I am a member of the 15-25 age demographic. I sure as hell don't identify with a lot of people in my age bracket as far music tastes go. I've always gravitated towards music made before I was alive. Part of it is because I have an appreciation and respect for preserving history. That's why I have no tolerance for anyone who can't trace rock 'n' roll, or just music in general, back farther than the Beatles. Sorry but they weren't year zero in music.
I don't necessarily put all the blame for this mentality on my peers. A lot of the music media, especially the abominable classic rawk community, have to bear the brunt of this. When a revisionist documentary like Seven Ages of Rock completely ignores the contributions of the architects of rock 'n' roll, it makes a voice like mine that much more of a necessity. Ignoring the 1950s rock 'n' rollers and the early influences reeks of ignorance, and there's no excuse for that. You can't choose where to begin when you relay history. You have to tell the whole story. It would be akin to doing a documentary on the history of American cinema and ignoring everything that happened before the release of The Godfather (which is as overrated as the Beatles, but that's another story).
I don't intentionally dismiss current music. I just don't have time to discover all the new acts that are out there. I'm having too much discovering musicians who were prevalent before my lifetime. I've been having a ton of fun lately listening to the two-disc Louis Jordan retrospective I recently picked up at the library. I'm sure you're familiar with Jordan's music, but if not, we can discuss him over on his respective page some time.
Even when I do discover new music, it's usually revivalists like Big Bad Voodoo Daddy and J.D. McPherson. It's encouraging and refreshing to see younger musicians take influence from someone like Little Richard or Benny Goodman, as opposed to constantly dredging up the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. It demonstrates that all is thankfully not lost when it comes to the younger generations educating themselves on music history.
The problem with the Pitchfork crowd is that they use their idolatry of indie rock as a status symbol. It's the high school clique mentality in action. It's just as misguided to favor music because it's indie just as it is to favor music because it's popular. I've never fallen into that mind trap thankfully.
This review illustrates why Pitchfork can't be taken seriously as a source of music criticism:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/1319-the-cars-deluxe-edition/
Posted by Zach on Saturday, 09.29.12 @ 20:39pm
I sure as hell don't identify with a lot of people in my age bracket as far music tastes go. I've always gravitated towards music made before I was alive. Part of it is because I have an appreciation and respect for preserving history. That's why I have no tolerance for anyone who can't trace rock 'n' roll, or just music in general, back farther than the Beatles. Sorry but they weren't year zero in music.
I don't necessarily put all the blame for this mentality on my peers. A lot of the music media, especially the abominable classic rawk community, have to bear the brunt of this. When a revisionist documentary like Seven Ages of Rock completely ignores the contributions of the architects of rock 'n' roll, it makes a voice like mine that much more of a necessity. Ignoring the 1950s rock 'n' rollers and the early influences reeks of ignorance, and there's no excuse for that.
etc., etc.
Posted by Zach on Saturday, 09.29.12 @ 20:39pm
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Since your post is right above this, I'll not reprint everything.
When it comes to a show like "Seven Ages of Rock", don't forget that's a British production. The U.K. doesn't have that deep history from the early 50's onward. From our point of view, it's revisionsit history, but from England's point of view, it's the only history they would respond to.
As for the Cars review, note that it was the 90's. In today's world it might be cool to fall all over history & such, but there are times that it felt good to trash history. The 90's were one of those times (right now, they're the last time people thought like that, though it'll change again someday). Personally, I can recall as early as 89, when the Stones & the Who came around for a double dip in the concert market, how my friends and I were wondering why modern acts never received any hype. I guess we were already gearing up for that kind of logic even then.
What I'm saying is, take that Cars review w/a grain of salt. I may have said those same things back then, & I have a Cars Greatest Hits CD myself (though not the one they reviewed; mine's a single disc set).
Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 09.30.12 @ 06:06am
"When it comes to a show like "Seven Ages of Rock", don't forget that's a British production. The U.K. doesn't have that deep history from the early 50's onward. From our point of view, it's revisionsit history, but from England's point of view, it's the only history they would respond to."
You forgot two very important things
1. Rock 'n' roll in the U.K. didn't begin with the Beatles. Cliff Richard and the Shadows, Billy Fury, Johnny Kidd & The Pirates, Tommy Steele, Vince Taylor, and others were active in the U.K. rock 'n' roll scene in the 1950s.
2. Many of the important acts in British rock 'n' roll of the 1960s were influenced by 1950s American rock 'n' rollers. It's all public knowledge, so I don't need to elaborate on this.
Posted by Zach on Friday, 10.5.12 @ 18:55pm
Cinderella should be inducted in the Hall of Fame.
Posted by Nanette Knig on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 13:45pm