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About The Song Project, Greg F wrote:
  I also have in mind for next month's genre vote:

Areatha Franklin- Until You Come Back to Me
Areatha Franklin- Don't Play That Song (You Lied)
Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes- The Lost I Lost
Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes- Bad Luck
Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes- If You Don't Know Me By Now
The Main Ingredient- Everybody Plays the Fool
The Spinners- One of a Kind Love Affair
The Spinners- Ghetto Child
Teddy Pendergrass- Turn Off The Lights
Teddy Pendergrass- Love TKO
Barry White- You're the First, The Last, My Everything
The Average White Band- Cut the Cake
The Average White Band- A Love of My Own
The Average White Band- You're Love is a Miracle
Monday, 03.30.15 @ 18:49pm
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About Eric Clapton, bojanthebest wrote:
  Happy Birthday, Eric
Monday, 03.30.15 @ 18:01pm
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About The Song Project, Tom H. wrote:
  Greg F.-
These are the songs from your list that I'd consider for the upcoming Genre Vote:

Glays Knight and The Pips- Neither One of Us (1973)
The Chi-lites- Oh Girl (though I plan on nominating "Have You Seen Her", this song is equally worthy)
Billy Preston- Nothing From Nothing
Billy Preston- Will It Go Around in Circles
Bill Withers- Grandma's Hands
Funkadelic- (Not Just) Knee Deep
Parliament- Aqua Boogie
The Ohio Players- Fire
The Supremes- Stoned Love

Donnie-
These are the songs from your list that I'd consider for the upcoming Genre Vote:

Al Green: You Ought to Be with Me (1972)
Chic: Dance Dance Dance (1978)
Curtis Mayfield: Freddie’s Dead (1972)
Earth, Wind & Fire: After the Love Has Gone (1979)
Gladys Knight & the Pips: On and On (1973)
Gladys Knight & the Pips: Best Thing that Has Ever Happened to Me (1974)
Marvin Gaye: Got to Give It Up (1977)
The Jackson Five: The Love You Save (1970)
The Jackson Five: Got to Be There (1972)
The Jackson Five: Never Can Say Goodbye (1973)
The O’Jays: Back Stabbers (1973)
The O’Jays: Use Ta Be My Girl (1978)
The Spinners: It’s a Shame (1970)
The Spinners: Mighty Love (1974)
The Spinners & Dionne Warwick: Then Came You (1974)
The Temptations: Ball of Confusion (1970)(How is this not in yet??)
The Temptations: Psychedelic Shack (1970)
War: Slippin’ into Darkness (1971)
War: The Cisco Kid (1973)
Monday, 03.30.15 @ 17:37pm
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, Tom H. wrote:
  Song Writer Tiebreakers:

4th:

Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil-2
Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry-1

11th:

Bernie Taupin-2
Mort Shuman-1

15th:

Laura Nyro-2
Dave Bartholomew-1

Producer Engineer Tiebreaker

21st

Timbaland-3
Johnny Otis-2
Eddie Kramer-1
Monday, 03.30.15 @ 11:14am
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, Tom H. wrote:
  Non Performer Industry Final Ranking

Ahmet Ertegun-26
Berry Gordy, Jr.-25
Leonard Chess-24
Dr. Robert Moog-23
Leo Fender-22
Alan Freed-21
Dick Clark-20
Jann Wenner-19
Wolfman Jack-18
Herb Alpert & Jerry Moss-17
Don Cornelius-16
Brian Epstein-15
Lou Adler-14
Clive Davis-13
David Geffen-12
Russell Simmons-11
Jim Marshall (Marshall Amps)-10
Cosimo Matassa-9
DJ Kool Herc-8
Sylvia Robinson-7
Jim Stewart-6
Bernie Lowe-5
Art Rupe-4
Lew Chudd-3
Chris Blackwell-2
Robert W. Pittman-1
Monday, 03.30.15 @ 11:09am
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About the 2015 Inductees, Roy wrote:
  14 more living Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees now eligible to vote on who gets inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame starting in October when the nominees for the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are announced:

01. Bill Withers
02. Elvin Bishop
03. Mark Naftalin
04. Jerome Arnold
05. Sam Lay
06. Joan Jett
07. Gary Ryan
08. Ricky Byrd
09. Chris Layton
10. Tommy Shannon
11. Reese Wynans
12. Billie Joe Armstrong
13. Mike Dirnt
14. Tré Cool
Monday, 03.30.15 @ 08:42am
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About the 2015 Inductees, Roy wrote:
  15 more Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees now eligible to vote on who gets inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame starting in October when the nominees for the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are announced:

01. Bill Withers
02. Elvin Bishop
03. Mark Naftalin
04. Jerome Arnold
05. Sam Lay
06. Joan Jett
07. Gary Ryan
08. Lee Crystal
09. Ricky Byrd
10. Chris Layton
11. Tommy Shannon
12. Reese Wynans
13. Billie Joe Armstrong
14. Mike Dirnt
15. Tré Cool
Monday, 03.30.15 @ 08:38am
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About Janet Jackson, Marissa wrote:
  Janet's nomination is coming and likely this year.

Can't wait to hear the haters squirm and bitch & moan.
Monday, 03.30.15 @ 02:25am
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, PopeCharming wrote:
  I'm sorry, Darren- that should be Berry Gordy for 24 points.
Sunday, 03.29.15 @ 22:42pm
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, PopeCharming wrote:
  for the 4th:

Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil- 2
Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry- 1

for the 11th:

Bernie Taupin- 2
Mort Shuman- 1

For the 15th:

Laura Nyro- 2
Dave Bartholomew- 1

Ahmet Ertegun- 26
Alan Freed- 25
Alan Freed- 24
Jann Wenner- 23
Dick Clark- 22
Robert W. Pittman- 21
Leonard Chess- 20
Leo Fender- 19
DJ Kool Herc- 18
Lou Adler- 17
Clive Davis- 16
Russell Simmons- 15
Sylvia Robinson- 14
Wolfman Jack- 13
Chris Blackwell- 12
Dr. Robert Moog- 11
Jim Stewart- 10
Brian Epstein- 9
Jim Marshall (Marshall Amps)- 8
Don Cornelius- 7
David Geffen- 6
Lew Chudd- 5
Art Rupe- 4
Herb Alpert & Jerry Moss- 3
Bernie Lowe- 2
Cosimo Matassa- 1


Sunday, 03.29.15 @ 22:39pm
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About Jethro Tull, Enigmaticus wrote:
  Although I agree that Jethro Tull is long overdue for Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame induction, the Nominating Committee may not get around to inducting them for a few more years.
Sunday, 03.29.15 @ 20:30pm
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, Philip wrote:
  Tie-breakers:

Ellie Greenwich And Jeff Barry
Mort Shuman
Dave Bartholomew

Johnny Otis
Timbaland
Eddie Kramer


Industry votes, 26 points on down:

Ahmet Ertegun
Berry Gordy, Jr.
Dick Clark
Alan Freed
Dr. Robert Moog
Leonard Chess
Bernie Lowe
Cosimo Matassa
Wolfman Jack
Brian Epstein
Art Rupe
Leo Fender
Lew Chudd
Jim Stewart
Lou Adler
Herb Alpert & Jerry Moss
Clive Davis
Robert W. Pittman
David Geffen
Chris Blackwell
DJ Kool Herc
Russell Simmons
Don Cornelius
Sylvia Robinson
Jim Marshall (Marshall Amps)
Jann S. Wenner
Sunday, 03.29.15 @ 12:48pm
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About Steve Miller Band, walter wrote:
  steve should have been in the hall years ago.i don't understand what the heck the voters are thinking. considering some of the duds they voted in,it makes me shake my head.his early albums are fabulous.
Sunday, 03.29.15 @ 09:50am
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About The Song Project, Printthelegends wrote:
  @SotN alright, that sounds about right. Thanks for the history! I participate in this project a bunch, but not as much as many others. But maybe it should be voted into the main project at this point though at this point?

Would anyone support that vote?
Sunday, 03.29.15 @ 03:11am
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About Roy Hamilton, bill g wrote:
  ****ROY HAMILTON****

This man should be in the ROCK AND ROLL HALL of FAME !!!

"WHY?" you ask .

Have you heard his music ?

Have you READ his Wikipedia article ??

(I didn't THINK so.)

Here it is....

Roy Hamilton (April 16, 1929 – July 20, 1969)[1] was an American singer, who achieved major success in the United States R&B and pop charts in the 1950s. He is best known for his recordings of "You'll Never Walk Alone", "Unchained Melody" and "You Can Have Her".[

BIOGRAPHY :

Born in Leesburg, Georgia, United States, Hamilton moved to Jersey City in 1943, studied commercial art, had operatic and classical voice training, and was a heavyweight Golden Gloves boxer, before joining the gospel quartet, The Searchlight Singers in 1948. In 1947, he entered and won an amateur talent show at the Apollo Theater with his rendition of "You'll Never Walk Alone". However, he did not record commercially until 1953, when he was discovered singing in a New Jersey club by a local DJ Bill Cook, who became his manager. Columbia Records saw him as a possible "crossover" singer with a foothold in both pop and R&B, and signed him to their subsidiary label Epic. His first single, "You'll Never Walk Alone", became an R&B number 1 for eight weeks, and a national US Top 30 hit in 1954, and shot Hamilton to fame.

He followed up with a string of singles that reached both R&B and pop audiences, many of which were popular show tunes of the day. These included "If I Loved You So" (#4 R&B), "Ebb Tide" (#5 R&B), "Hurt" (#8 R&B), "Unchained Melody" (#1 R&B, #6 pop), and "Don’t Let Go" (#2 R&B, #13 pop).[citation needed] His style and sound directly influenced later artists such as Elvis Presley, Jackie Wilson, Jerry Lee Lewis, Charlie Rich and the the Righteous Brothers, all of whom covered his music .

In mid-1956, Hamilton announced his retirement due to his illness with tuberculosis and exhaustion, but returned the following year. When he came back, he adopted the harder gospel sound of his youth, to compete with rock and roll and the emerging soul sound. Hamilton appeared in the film Let's Rock, in 1958. His last hit record, "You Can Have Her" (#6 R&B, #12 pop), came in 1961, and was followed by the album Mr. Rock And Soul (1962). The Epic label treated Hamilton as a major star and issued sixteen albums by him. However, by the mid 1960s, his career declined while recording with MGM and then RCA.

In mid-1956, Hamilton announced his retirement due to his illness with tuberculosis and exhaustion, but returned the following year. When he came back, he adopted the harder gospel sound of his youth, to compete with rock and roll and the emerging soul sound. Hamilton appeared in the film Let's Rock, in 1958. His last hit record, "You Can Have Her" (#6 R&B, #12 pop), came in 1961, and was followed by the album Mr. Rock And Soul (1962). The Epic label treated Hamilton as a major star and issued sixteen albums by him. However, by the mid 1960s, his career declined while recording with MGM and then RCA.

His final recordings were made in Memphis, Tennessee, at record producer Chips Moman's American Sound Studio at the same time that Elvis Presley recorded there in early 1969.[6] Songs released from those sessions were versions of James Carr's "The Dark End of the Street", Conway Twitty's "It's Only Make Believe", and "Angelica", a Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil song that had been submitted to Presley, but which he then turned over to Hamilton.

Later years and death

Hamilton died later in 1969, not long after suffering a stroke, at age 40, in New Rochelle, New York. Hamilton's "You'll Never Walk Alone" disc was brought in from the US by a sailor friend of Gerry Marsden. As a result, Gerry & the Pacemakers recorded the track to further success.

Hamilton was inducted into the Georgia Music Hall of Fame in 2010.

"Hurt".

"Ebb Tide"

"Unchained Melody"

"Don't Let Go"

"You'll Never Walk Alone"

How many artists were influenced by , and recorded these songs ??

Roy Hamilton should be inducted !!!



Sunday, 03.29.15 @ 00:13am
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, Darren wrote:
  Final Rankings for Round 18 (of 18) of the 2014 Non-Performers - Songwriters and Non-Peformers - Producers / Engineers re-rankings are now complete.

Here are the current 2014 Non-Performers - Songwriters re-rankings:

1. Gerry Goffin & Carole King
2. Holland-Dozier-Holland
3. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
4 (tie). Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil
4 (tie). Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry
6. Otis Blackwell
7. Barrett Strong & Norman Whitfield
8. Doc Pomus
9. Jesse Stone
10. Ashford & Simpson
11 (tie). Bernie Taupin
11 (tie). Mort Shuman
13. Allen Toussaint
14. Burt Bacharach and Hal David
15 (tie). Dave Bartholomew
15 (tie). Laura Nyro


Here are the final tiebreaker ranking results:

Gerry Goffin & Carole King - 62
Holland-Dozier-Holland - 60
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller - 55

Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil - 41 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker)
Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry - 41 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker)

Otis Blackwell - 35 (3 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker)
Barrett Strong & Norman Whitfield - 35 (1 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker)

Doc Pomus - 34
Jesse Stone - 30
Ashford & Simpson - 27

Bernie Taupin - 25 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker)
Mort Shuman - 25 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker)

Allen Toussaint - 24
Burt Bacharach and Hal David - 22

Dave Bartholomew - 14 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker)
Laura Nyro - 14 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker)


We will have a tiebreaker vote to break up the unresolved ties in this vote. Anyone who has participated in this project can vote. To vote, select one non-performer from each pairing. In the event of a tie, the previous rankings listed on this board will be used to break the tie.

4th:

Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil
Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry

11th:

Bernie Taupin
Mort Shuman

15th:

Dave Bartholomew
Laura Nyro


Voting will end at 10 PM Central on Monday the 30th.


Here are the current 2014 Non-Performers - Producers / Engineers re-rankings:

1. Phil Spector
2. Jerry Wexler
3. George Martin
4. Quincy Jones
5. Gamble & Huff
6. Brian Eno
7. Sam Phillips
8. John Hammond
9. Thom Bell
10. Dr. Dre
11. Tom Dowd
12. Glyn Johns
13. Giorgio Moroder
14. Ralph Bass
15. John Peel
16. Rick Rubin
17. Milt Gabler
18. Willie Mitchell
19. Lee "Scratch" Perry
20. Todd Rundgren
21 (tie). Eddie Kramer
21 (tie). Johnny Otis
21 (tie). Timbaland
24. Syd Nathan
25. Joe Meek
26. Robert "Mutt" Lange
27. Daniel Lanois
28. Ted Templeman
29. Martin Hannett


Here are the final tiebreaker ranking results:

Phil Spector - 87
Jerry Wexler - 80
George Martin - 78
Quincy Jones - 77
Gamble & Huff - 72
Brian Eno - 65
Sam Phillips - 64
John Hammond - 61
Thom Bell - 56

Dr. Dre - 53 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker Voting)
Tom Dowd - 53 (1 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker Voting)

Glyn Johns - 45
Giorgio Moroder - 44
Ralph Bass - 40
John Peel - 38

Rick Rubin - 37 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker Voting)
Milt Gabler - 37 (1 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker Voting)

Willie Mitchell - 36

Lee "Scratch" Perry - 33 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker Voting)
Todd Rundgren - 33 (1 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker Voting)

Eddie Kramer - 31 (1 Highest Vote In Tiebreaker Voting)
Johnny Otis - 31 (1 Highest Vote In Tiebreaker Voting)
Timbaland - 31 (1 Highest Vote In Tiebreaker Voting)

Syd Nathan - 30
Joe Meek - 28
Robert "Mutt" Lange - 27
Daniel Lanois - 24

Ted Templeman - 6 (2 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker Voting)
Martin Hannett - 6 (1 Higher Votes In Tiebreaker Voting)


We will have a tiebreaker vote to break up the unresolved tie in this vote. Anyone who has participated in this project can vote. To vote, rank all three non-performers in order of preference.

21st:

Eddie Kramer
Johnny Otis
Timbaland

In the event of a tie, rankings will be determined by the number of 1st place votes received. If that still doesn't resolve the tie, the previous rankings will be used.

Voting will end at 10 PM Central on Monday the 30th.
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 23:50pm
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, Darren wrote:
  Initial tiebreaker voting is now closed for Round 1 (of 18) of Non-Performer - Industry re-ranking.

These 26 non-performers in the industry category (there was a tie for 25th) scored highest in the tiebreaker and are eligible for ranking between #1 and #25 and will be involved in the final ranking process:

Ahmet Ertegun
Alan Freed
Art Rupe
Bernie Lowe
Berry Gordy, Jr.
Brian Epstein
Chris Blackwell
Clive Davis
Cosimo Matassa
David Geffen
Dick Clark
DJ Kool Herc
Don Cornelius
Dr. Robert Moog
Herb Alpert & Jerry Moss
Jann Wenner
Jim Marshall (Marshall Amps)
Jim Stewart
Leo Fender
Leonard Chess
Lew Chudd
Lou Adler
Robert W. Pittman
Russell Simmons
Sylvia Robinson
Wolfman Jack


To vote, rank all 26 non-performers in order of preference. The top-ranked performer will get 26 points, the second-ranked performer will get 25, etc.

The 25 highest-scoring performers will be ranked between #1 and #25.

Voting will end at 10 PM Central on Monday the 30th.
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 23:25pm
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About The Song Project, joker wrote:
  As I try to stumble to my feet in the wake of the blitzkrieg of song suggestions for the upcoming genre vote, it occurred to me that anyone who needs help figuring out what to nominate probably isn't qualified to vote.


Thought for the day:

It isn't a crime worthy of capital punishment if you sit out the dance cause you don't know the steps.
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 20:00pm
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About The Song Project, SotN wrote:
  Printthelegends: I think it's because of Take Me to Church's sleeper hit status: it was put into Voter's Choice via Lax31 in June of last year, when it was starting to get very slight traction. It didn't fully become a hit until later in the year (November-December), so by the time it was in the Top 5, it had already been in VC for half a year.
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 16:54pm
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About The Song Project, Printthelegends wrote:
  I'm a little confused about why "Take Me to Church" is in the Voters Choice and not the main Song Project. That song was a big hit.
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 14:21pm
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About Little Anthony and the Imperials, The_Claw wrote:
  Don't know why these groups can't get inducted, Bill. They don't seem to have anything against R&B in general: since Little Anthony & The Imperials, they have inducted Darlene Love, Hall & Oates, Donna Summer and Bill Withers. Bobby Womack was inducted in the same year as Little Anthony & The Imperials. And if they truly had something against R&B Groups, The "5" Royales wouldn't have made it either. I thought last year at least one of the groups you mentioned would get inducted, whether it was War, Chic, The Marvelettes or The Spinners. Maybe next year?
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 09:29am
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About The Immortals, Roy wrote:
  The Cascades * John Stewart * Lobo * Jermaine Stewart * Take That * The Watts Prophets
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 08:37am
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About Gil Scott-Heron, Roy wrote:
  THE WATTS PROPHETS
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 07:40am
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About Little Anthony and the Imperials, bill g wrote:
  ***LITTLE ANTHONY & The IMPERIALS***

"THE VERY LAST"

ANOTHER THING THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION....


And this is REALLY SIGNIFICANT. Apart from R&B groups inducted by Special Committee (Miracles, Famous Flames, and Midnighters-2012) and R&B groups inducted as Early Influences (The "5" Royales-2015) LITTLE ANTHONY & THE IMPERIALS were the very LAST R&B-IDENTIFIED GROUP that was actually inducted into the ROCK and ROLL HALL of FAME by the Voting Body.

"THE VERY LAST"

In the SIX years SINCE their INDUCTION in 2009, NOT ONE SINGLE R&B GROUP HAS BEEN VOTED IN. NOT ONE !!!

THE SPINNERS were nominated TWICE. THEY DIDN'T GET IN.

THE MARVELETTES were nominated TWICE. THEY DIDN'T GET IN EITHER.

CHAKA KHAN and RUFUS were nominated once...NO, SORRY.

WAR (which is more of a Latin/R&B group) has been nominated at least 3 times...NO SIR !!

And, we're not even gonna TALK about CHIC.

Does that mean that there's SOMETHING WRONG with R&B Groups ...?

...Or , is there SOMETHING WRONG....

....With the ROCK and ROLL HALL of FAME ??

(Think about it)
Saturday, 03.28.15 @ 02:39am
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About The Song Project, Donnie wrote:
  @ Greg F

Awesome inclusions for P-Funk. Those would be two of my top choices from them.

For your other songs, I would support the following the most...

Either Billy Preston song
Bill Withers- Grandma's Hands
The Ohio Players- Fire
The Supremes- Stoned Love
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 19:40pm
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About The Song Project, Donnie wrote:
  Nick, you posted one of the songs I was planning on nominating for the general election this upcoming month. Beings I don't want anyone to steal it from me, I'm gonna nominate the following songs in the General Vote...

Marvin Gaye- Got to Give it Up
Stevie Wonder- As

As for the songs I have planned for the Genre vote, those haven't been listed by anyone. They're lesser known songs from 70's R&B, so I don't think I have to worry about someone else taking them.

As for all of the songs listed, all are great songs. I think I'll work on a list tonight of 70's R&B groups/artists for all of us to consider.
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 19:33pm
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About The Song Project, Nick wrote:
  Here is a list of songs I think would be great on the 70s R&B genre vote in April; let me know if anyone would support these songs (and this is to also inspire others what to nominate):

Al Green: You Ought to Be with Me (1972)
Chic: Dance Dance Dance (1978)
Curtis Mayfield: Freddie’s Dead (1972)
Donna Summer: Heaven Knows (1979)
Earth, Wind & Fire: Fantasy (1976)
Earth Wind & Fire: That’s the Way of the World (1977)
Earth, Wind & Fire: After the Love Has Gone (1979)
Gladys Knight & the Pips: On and On (1973)
Gladys Knight & the Pips: Best Thing that Has Ever Happened to Me (1974)
Ike & Tina Turner: Nutbush City Limits (1973)
James Brown: Hot Pants (1971)
James Brown: Get On the Good Foot (1972)
James Brown: The Payback (1973)
Marvin Gaye: Got to Give It Up (1977)
Prince: I Wanna Be Your Lover (1979)
The Jackson Five: The Love You Save (1970)
The Jackson Five: Got to Be There (1972)
The Jackson Five: Never Can Say Goodbye (1973)
The O’Jays: Back Stabbers (1973)
The O’Jays: I Love Music (1975)
The O’Jays: Livin’ for the Weekend (1975)
The O’Jays: Use Ta Be My Girl (1978)
The Spinners: It’s a Shame (1970)
The Spinners: Mighty Love (1974)
The Spinners & Dionne Warwick: Then Came You (1974)
The Staple Singers: Let’s Do It Again (1975)
The Temptations: Ball of Confusion (1970)
The Temptations: Psychedelic Shack (1970)
War: Slippin’ into Darkness (1971)
War: The Cisco Kid (1973)
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 14:23pm
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About Jethro Tull, DDHeadDDS wrote:
  Just toured the HOF. Had to go back a second time after viewing signature wall. Had gotten to T, and much to my shock, no Tull. Walked back to A, and no Anderson. Couldn't leave the place fast enough.
Have followed the band since Aqualung, Saw my first concert in 1972. "Thick as a Brick" stage performance. Never thought I would hear better musical intricacies, or more cerebral lyrics. Still searching for lyrics, although I must confess, to being a "Dead Head" since'75, and believe Jerry and the boys set the musical intricacy bar to an unsurpassed level.
What drugs are the nominating committees taking to look past Tull/Anderson. I certainly want no part of them, or their drugs.
Unrivaled stage shows, millions of records sold, die hard fan following, complex and tight musicianship, lyrics to make a person think, and a minstrel blush. And a one legged flute soloist as an ever endearing and enduring icon. What more could the supposed hallowed halls of Rock n Roll possibly want? Beastie Boys and Guns n Roses, I guess.
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 14:14pm
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About Jethro Tull, DDHeadDDS wrote:
  Just toured the HOF. Had to go back a second time after viewing signature wall. Had gotten to T, and much to my shock, no Tull. Walked back to A, and no Anderson. Couldn't leave the place fast enough.
Have followed the band since Aqualung, Saw my first concert in 1972. "Thick as a Brick" stage performance. Never thought I would hear better musical intricacies, or more cerebral lyrics. Still searching for lyrics, although I must confess, to being a "Dead Head" since'75, and believe Jerry and the boys set the musical intricacy bar to an unsurpassed level.
What drugs are the nominating committees taking to look past Tull/Anderson. I certainly want no part of them, or their drugs.
Unrivaled stage shows, millions of records sold, die hard fan following, complex and tight musicianship, lyrics to make a person think, and a minstrel blush. And a one legged flute soloist as an ever endearing and enduring icon. What more could the supposed hallowed halls of Rock n Roll possibly want? Beastie Boys and Guns n Roses, I guess.
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 14:04pm
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About The Song Project, Nick wrote:
  I would also support Bill Withers' "Grandma's Hands."
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 13:52pm
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About The Song Project, Nick wrote:
  Greg F,
Bill Withers' "Use Me" is already in the song project; I would support the following songs from your list:
-Gladys Knight & the Pips: Neither One of Us
-Donna Summer: Dim All the Lights
-Chic: I Want Your Love
-The Chi-Lites: Oh Girl

i would support the Ohio Players' "Fire" if the ballot isn't stacked (which I'm sure it will be).

Hard to think Gladys Knight & the Pips have just one song in the song project; 2 other songs from them I think are worthy is "Best Thing that Has Ever Happened to Me" and "On and On." Happy to see you supporting them.

I think for the 70s R&B, some artists we definitely need to consider are The O'Jays, The Spinners, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Al Green, the Jackson Five, and Earth Wind & Fire. Almost all the "major" artists I listed are vastly under-represented in the song project and should be top priority for the genre vote.

I'm gonna comprose a list shortly of songs for the R&B 70s vote to see if there's interest.
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 13:50pm
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About The Song Project, Greg F wrote:
  Some songs I have in mind for the genre vote next month:

Glays Knight and The Pips- Neither One of Us (1973)
Brook Benton- Rainy Night in Georgia
The Chi-lites- Oh Girl
Billy Preston- Nothing From Nothing
Billy Preston- Will It Go Around in Circles
Bill Withers- Use Me
Bill Withers- Grandma's Hands
Stephanie Mills- What'cha Gonna Do With My Lovin
Rufus & Chaka Khan- Sweet Thing
Rufus & Chaka Khan- Do You Love What You Feel
Funkadelic- (Not Just) Knee Deep
Parliament- Aqua Boogie
The Ohio Players- Fire
The Ohio Players- Skin Tight
Chic- I Want Your Love
Chic- My Forbidden Lover
Donna Summer- Dim All The Lights
The Supremes- Stoned Love

Friday, 03.27.15 @ 13:21pm
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About The Song Project, Paul K wrote:
  Josh - When you put it like that, I would support and vote for your proposed genre vote. Perhaps if you relabel it as "Songs with a Religious Theme" it might garner more support.

The problem with leaving it as just "Religious" is that it might have implied that it only encompasses songs of praise and worship, which, while I'm not saying other religions don't have a trove of music, is mostly going to be recognized as being straight up Christian Rock and Gospel. While we're surely an openminded group of probably a wide spectrum of religious beliefs or lack thereof, as a general and stereotypical rule, most followers on a site or project primarily devoted to rock music probably aren't going to prioritize or even be too familiar with religious music, and if they are, it didn't occur to them to enshrine it in a project that mainly focuses on rock and pop and jazz.

Without discussing the actual quality of nonsecular, Christian radio or church friendly music, one problem is that many songs of praise and worship with a major impact on music or society are hard to attribute to a single artist, and if you can, they often predate our project. (i.e, "Amazing Grace")

While there are tens of millions of listeners to that type of music, it somehow remains niche and mutually exclusive exclusive to a certain demographic, with little crossover. Since you're opening it up to any music with a religious theme or undertones, the crossover multiplies phenomenally.
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 12:40pm
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About The Song Project, Nick wrote:
  Tom H., from your list I'd support the following songs:
Billy Joel: Scenes from an Italian Restaurant (1977)
Frank Zappa: Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow (1974)
Jethro Tull: Cross-Eyed Mary (1971)
The Beatles: Please Please Me (1962)
The Chi-Lites: Have You Seen Her (1971)
The James Gang: Funk #49 (1970)

I nominated “Scenes from an Italian Restaurant” last month and almost made it (so if it's nominated again, of course I'd definitely vote for it). "Have You Seen Her Lately" is a great song that should be in the Song Project; if you nominate it I would most likely vote for it (depending on what else is nominated). That would be great for the 70s R&B genre vote thou.
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 10:47am
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About The Song Project, Donnie wrote:
  @ Tom H.

I have other songs in mind to nominate for the Genre vote, so "Have You Seen Her" is all yours. I can't promise that I'll vote for it, because there are so many great songs that could be nominated. But it's definitely a song that should be in our Song HOF.

Also knowing now that "Scenes From an Italian Restaurant" didn't make the cut, that song definitely has my support as well.
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 07:41am
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About The Song Project, Donnie wrote:
  In regards to my thoughts on religious music as a genre for the Genre vote, my first thoughts whenever it's brought up is "Ewwww," I want no part in that. Not religious at all.

But when you put it the way you do, Josh, it could be a viable, working genre, with a lot of diverse genres to be considered. I will not support "Christian Rock" or songs of that ilk, as that music sucks, and will never get any support from me.

But as you stated, there are a lot of great gospel songs, as well as a lot of early country songs rooted in religion that would be good candidates. There's also plenty of songs in the usual suspects like rock, R&B, and even pop that are about religion in some form that would be good candidates.

Depending on what was nominated, I would consider participating. But if it it turns into a bunch of Christian rock, or modern cheesy gospel songs that are used on the televangelist type programs, then count me out.

If I were to participate, I would probably nominate either "Jesus is Just Alright" (Byrds or Doobie Brothers version), "Hear Me Lord" by George Harrison, "Jesus" by the Velvet Underground, or something from Stevie Wonder like "Jesus Children of America" or "They Won't Go When I Go."
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 07:38am
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About The Song Project, Josh wrote:
  I will vote for The Chi-Lites - Have You Seen Her in either a regular vote or the 70's R&B vote. It should be in already.

I have nominated Religious music a few times as a genre vote and there has been almost no support. I'm going to try one more time with a little warning so people can do some research... I gotta ask, what is everyone's opinion on it? It helps a few areas where we have little or no support - most importantly gospel, classic country, Christian rock, and definitely even anti-religious songs like "Dear God" or "Imagine." Religion is just about the biggest theme in music other than sex, drugs, and love, so there is no lack of variety or quality here. I would like feedback (I want this genre vote to stay about the music and the impact religion in music has had on society... not about the personal beliefs of any of us)
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 03:22am
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, PopeCharming wrote:
  Industry figures:

Ahmet Ertegun- 25
Alan Freed- 24
Berry Gordy, Jr.- 23
Jann Wenner- 22
Dick Clark- 21
Robert W. Pittman- 20
Leonard Chess- 19
Leo Fender- 18
DJ Kool Herc- 17
Tom Donahue- 16
Joel Whitburn- 15
Lou Adler- 14
Clive Davis- 13
Russell Simmons- 12
Sylvia Robinson- 11
Wolfman Jack- 10
Chris Blackwell- 9
Dr. Robert Moog- 8
Jim Stewart- 7
Bill Graham- 6
Casey Kasem- 5
Brian Epstein- 4
Seymour Stein- 3
Frank Barsalona- 2
Jim Marshall (Marshall Amps)- 1

Songwriters:

Gerry Goffin & Carole King- 16
Holland-Dozier-Holland- 15
Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller- 14
Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil- 13
Otis Blackwell- 12
Barrett Strong & Norman Whitfield- 11
Bernie Taupin- 10
Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry- 9
Jesse Stone- 8
Burt Bacharach and Hal David- 7
Doc Pomus- 6
Ashford & Simpson- 5
Laura Nyro- 4
Dave Bartholomew- 3
Allen Toussaint- 2
Mort Shuman- 1

Producers:

Phil Spector- 29
George Martin- 28
Jerry Wexler- 27
Brian Eno- 26
Quincy Jones- 25
Dr. Dre- 24
Gamble & Huff- 23
John Peel- 22
Glyn Johns- 21
Joe Meek- 20
Tom Dowd- 19
John Hammond- 18
Syd Nathan- 17
Eddie Kramer- 16
Thom Bell- 15
Willie Mitchell- 14
Giorgio Moroder- 13
Ralph Bass- 12
Sam Phillips- 11
Lee "Scratch” Perry- 10
Robert "Mutt” Lange- 9
Todd Rundgren- 8
Johnny Otis- 7
Timbaland- 6
Rick Rubin- 5
Milt Gabler- 4
Daniel Lanois- 3
Ted Templeman- 2
Martin Hannett- 1
Friday, 03.27.15 @ 01:59am
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, Gassman wrote:
  Darren: Your totals match with mine!

Average Ranking for each induction class:

Average Year First Year Eligibility
18.143 1986 1960
39.000 1988 1962
50.429 1987 1961
52.143 1993 1967
62.286 1990 1964
62.429 1989 1963
89.286 1992 1966
95.429 1999 1973
96.571 1995 1969
101.714 1997 1971
103.571 1994 1968
104.571 1996 1970
109.857 1998 1972
114.571 2004 1978
114.571 2005 1979
122.429 2001 1975
123.143 1991 1965
126.429 2003 1977
127.429 2008 1982
133.571 2002 1976
151.000 2012 1986
153.143 2007 1981
161.143 2010 1984
174.571 2006 1980
175.429 2015 1989
176.286 2009 1983
176.714 2011 1985
178.714 2000 1974
178.714 2014 1988
181.857 2017 1991
183.571 2013 1987
196.000 2018 1992
205.714 2016 1990
207.571 2022 1996
212.429 2020 1994
228.143 2021 1995
230.500 2025 1999
246.143 2029 2003
246.857 2019 1993
249.286 2030 2004
249.571 2026 2000
251.000 2023 1997
274.714 2028 2002
275.714 2024 1998
286.000 2027 2001
Thursday, 03.26.15 @ 23:40pm
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About Revisited Projected Rankings, Philip wrote:
  
N-P: Industry. 25 points on down

Ahmet Ertegun
Berry Gordy, Jr.
Dick Clark
Alan Freed
Dr. Robert Moog
Leonard Chess
Bernie Lowe
Nesuhi Ertegun
Cosimo Matassa
Wolfman Jack
Brian Epstein
Art Rupe
Leo Fender
Lew Chudd
Jim Stewart
Lou Adler
Herb Alpert & Jerry Moss
Clive Davis
Robert W. Pittman
David Geffen
Chris Blackwell
Seymour Stein
Hilly Kristal
Jac Holzman
Mo Ostin

Non-Performers - Songwriters, 16 points on down:

Jerry Leiber And Mike Stoller
Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier, And Eddie Holland
Gerry Goffin And Carole King
Ellie Greenwich And Jeff Barry
Barry Mann And Cynthia Weil
Doc Pomus
Mort Shuman
Jesse Stone
Otis Blackwell
Barrett Strong And Norman Whitfield
Nikolas Ashford And Valerie Simpson
Dave Bartholomew
Laura Nyro
Allen Toussaint
Bernie Taupin
Burt Bacharach and Hal David

Non-Performers - Producers / Engineers: 29 Points on down:

Phil Spector
Quincy Jones
Jerry Wexler
Sam Phillips
Tom Dowd
Kenny Gamble And Leon Huff
Thom Bell
George Martin
Willie Mitchell
John Hammond
Milt Gabler
Giorgio Moroder
Brian Eno
Glyn Johns
Daniel Lanois
Johnny Otis
Rick Rubin
Timbaland
Ralph Bass
Syd Nathan
John Peel
Dr. Dre
Lee "Scratch" Perry
Robert "Mutt" Lange
Todd Rundgren
Eddie Kramer
Joe Meek
Ted Templeman
Martin Hannett
Thursday, 03.26.15 @ 21:14pm
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