The Miracles

Rock & Roll Hall of Famer

Category: Performer*

Inducted in: 2012

Inducted by: Smokey Robinson

Inducted Members: Warren “Pete” Moore, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Bobby Rogers, Marvin Tarplin, Ronald White


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Shop Around (1960)
The Tracks Of My Tears (1965)
The Tears of a Clown (1967)

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The Miracles were inducted in 2012 without ever having appeared on the ballot. They were named by a special subcommittee.

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The MIRACLES are one of the greatest singing groups of ALL TIME !!! Not only that , but also one of the most INFLUENTIAL !! AND THAT'S ALL THE MEMBERS, NOT JUST SMOKEY !!!THE MIRACLES STARTED THE ENTIRE MOTOWN PHENOMONON!!! Unlike the Temptations , Supremes , & Four Tops, THE MIRACLES wrote almost all of their OWN material ,ALL OF THEM ...NOT JUST SMOKEY !! Don't believe it ?? Just read the writing credits on their records!!! They don't just list "Robinson" as the credited writer, but " ROBINSON, ROGERS, MOORE, WHITE , AND TARPLIN !!! ALL OF THEM !!! THIS INFORMATION IS READILY AVAILABLE ! WHY THE RRHOF INDUCTION COMMITTEE DIDN'T GET IT IS BEYOND ME !! OR MAYBE THEY JUST DIDNT TRY ! If you need further proof, just Go on AMAZON or your local music store, and pick up the DVD: SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES: THE DEFINITIVE DVD COLLECTION ( part of the new Motown "definitive DVD series ". 3 of the original MIRACLES are interviewed : Pete Moore, Smokey Robinson, and Bobby Rogers.It is revealed on this DVD something long time MIRACLES fans always knew.... that ALL OF THE MIRACLES wrote their many hits .... not just SMOKEY !!! not only that , but 9 of the Temptations first 12 hits were written by the MIRACLES TOO !!! AND , THAT'S JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBURG!!! they've also written for MARVIN GAYE ("AINT THAT PECULIAR","I'LL BE DOGGONE","ONE MORE HEARTACHE") MARY WELLS ( "MY GUY", "TWO LOVERS" "THE ONE WHO REALLY LOVES YOU " "WHAT TWO CAN EASILY DO"),THE CONTOURS ( "FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE".... (later covered by the J GEILS BAND), "THAT DAY WHEN SHE NEEDED ME") THE MARVELETTES ("DON'T MESS WITH BILL","MY BABY MUST BE A MAGICIAN, " THE HUNTER GETS CAPTURED BY THE GAME" ... AND ALSO HITS BTY KIM WESTON, BRENDA HOLLOWAY, THE FOUR TOPS, AND MORE !!! HOW MANY MIRACLES SONGS (OR ANYONE ELSES) DID THE TEMPTATIONS OR THE SUPREMES WRITE ?? THINK ABOUT IT. But THEY'RE IN THE HALL OF FAME AND THE MIRACLES ARE NOT ?! AND FOR THOSE WHO SAY SMOKEY WAS THE GROUP'S ONLY TALENTED WRITER, I SAY,"WHAT ABOUT "LOVE MACHINE " WRITTEN BY MIRACLES PETE MOORE & BILLY GRIFFIN.... A MULTI- MILLION SELLING #1 POP SMASH....That came from the self-written platinum album "CITY OF ANGELS"..."WHERE WAS SMOKEY WHEN THAT ONE WAS WRITTEN ? IN FACT JANN WENNER'S OWN ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE LISTS THE MIRACLES # 32 on their list of "THE IMMORTALS: THE 50 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME" .... MAKING THEM THE TOP -RANKING MOTOWN GROUP IN THE LISTING .... ALL OF THEM .... NOT JUST SMOKEY !!!(DO YOU SEE A PATTERN HERE ?) HOW CAN WENNER'S OWN MAGAZINE RANK THE MIRACLES SO HIGH ON THIS LIST , AHEAD OF SUCH ARTISTS AS MADONNA, ERIC CLAPTON , & THE DOORS, AMONG OTHERS.... AND YET EXCLUDE THEM FROM RRHOF INDUCTION ? I SUGGEST TO A N Y O N E WHO FEELS THAT THE MIRACLES DON'T DESERVE INDUCTION.... LOOK UP " THE MIRACLES ON WIKIPEDIA. SEE HOW MANY ARTISTS HAVE COVERED THEIR SONGS. SEE HOW MANY HITS THEY'VE WRITTEN FOR OTHERS. SEE HOW IMPORTANT THEY WERE IN THE FORMATION OF MOTOWN. You can't GET more influential than THE MIRACLES... in ANY musical genre!!! then look up the RONETTES ,or PERCY SLEDGE by comparision....see if they even come CLOSE.... IN HIT RECORDS OR INFLUENCE !!! IF YOU'RE NOT CONVINCED BY THEN THAT THE MIRACLES- SMOKEY ROBINSON, BOBBY ROGERS, PETE MOORE, RONNIE WHITE, MARV TARPLIN, & CLAUDETTE ROGERS- ROBINSON- DONT DESERVE INDUCTION INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME....THEN NO ONE SHOULD !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 06.10.07 @ 23:21pm


Bill, it's common internet knowledge that typing in all CAPS is the face to face equivalent to shouting, which, in the physical world acheives the effect of having people immediately preoccupied with annoyance and actually NOT listening to what you are saying, which is both ironic and a waste for you. Works the same way here. The all caps works against you and I wish you would stop it. Now.

Posted by shawn mc on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 01:06am


Please stick to the point in question.The purpose of this site is to determine whether The Miracles merit induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Please limit your comments to this issue. Thank You.

Posted by Bill G on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 06:44am


"Please stick to the point in question.The purpose of this site.."

Bill, I'm happy to stick to the discussions on The Miracles or your conspiracy theories - but if you're going to shout at me or hit me with a mallet while you make your comments, I may go off point - just for a moment - in order to ask you to turn your fu*king bullhorn off, mm-kay?

Don't be sanctimonious.

Posted by shawn mc on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 10:05am


I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I just recently read something that really burns me . In 2004 Jann Wenner's ROLLING STONE magazine published their list of "THE IMMORTALS: THE FIFTY GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME". On this list,THE MIRACLES are listed as number 32, which makes them not only the highest - ranking MOTOWN group in the listing (the SUPREMES ,TEMPTATIONS ,& THE FOUR TOPS all ranked lower, and didnt even make the top 50 ,and,of ALL Motown artists,only STEVIE WONDER & MARVIN GAYE are ranked higher ), but also puts them ahead of such stellar artists as NEIL YOUNG, MADONNA,ROY ORBISON, and THE DOORS.How can WENNER'S own magazine rank THE MIRACLES so high on this list of all- time legends,and yet , at the same time, exclude them from ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION ? Does that make sense to you ? Not to me. Notice , his list didn't just mention "SMOKEY ROBINSON", BUT rather "SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES", acknowledging that the ENTIRE GROUP merited inclusion..Also as I continued to scan this list , I found that, of this IMMORTAL TOP 50,EVERY SINGLE ARTIST ON THE LIST IS IN THE ROCK HALL OF FAME EXCEPT for four: RUN DMC,NIRVANA,PUBLIC ENEMY, and THE MIRACLES.And the MIRACLES have been FAR MORE influential ,and their songs FAR MORE COVERED then ALL OF THESE ARTISTS PUT TOGETHER !!! Also, as I scanned the next fifty on the list (51-100),several artists ranked BELOW the MIRACLES are RRHOF inductees, such as JACKIE WILSON,PARLIAMENT/FUNKADELIC,AEROSMITH,FRANK ZAPPA,& ERIC CLAPTON,among others. WHICH ONCE AGAIN BEGS THE QUESTION: " WHY AREN'T THE MIRACLES , MOTOWN'S LEGENDARY FIRST GROUP, NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME ??

Posted by bill g on Sunday, 07.8.07 @ 11:26am


Beating dead horses is what this site is all about. You have made the case, I agree with you, The Miracles should have been inducted along with Smokey.

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 07.8.07 @ 12:00pm


Thanks, Dezmond. A lot of other people feel the same way. Regardless of whether a person loves R&B music in general, or Motown in particular , the fact remains that artists and groups that deserve to be inducted into the RRHOF SHOULD be inducted.... and this applies to prog. rock and other musical genres as well . the MIRACLES are not just any garden- variety group,, they are one of the ALL -TIME GREATS. 4 OF THEIR SONGS ARE IN THE GRAMMY HALL OF FAME. They were inducted into VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME YEARS AGO. The artists that have covered their songs are a WHO'S WHO of some of the GREATEST NAMES in the industry..... in many different musical genres ...POP AND ROCK ARTISTS, R&B and HIP-HOP ARTISTS.... even JAZZ AND COUNTRY ARTISTS.AND,ALMOST ALL OF THEIR SONGS WERE SELF- WRITTEN. Plus , their historical importance as MOTOWN'S FIRST GROUP. No what the label went on to do afterwards, or how many great artists it discovered , THE MIRACLES WERE THE FIRST.THEIR HITS BUILT THE LABEL,(taking MOTOWN RECORDS from local obscurity to national success) and to quote Wikipedia, " the MIRACLES success paved the way for all future MOTOWN stars" Many of their compositions actually launched the careers of their fellow artists, several of which have already been inducted. 2007 marks the 20th anniversary of SMOKEY'S individual induction. It also marks the 50th anniversary of the MIRACLES'recording debut. The surviving original members , all but one of which are still alive, are approaching 70 years of age. Let's hope that this blacklisting against THE MIRACLES finally comes to an end, so they can be deservingly inducted , while most of them are still alive.

Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 09.16.07 @ 23:36pm


I agree with Shawn here - if not for any other reason, reading all caps is straining on the eyes...

Posted by Anon on Monday, 09.17.07 @ 10:03am


I'm just a "Love Machine" and I won't work for nobody but you!!! That was there biggest hit in the post Smokey era.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Monday, 09.17.07 @ 15:48pm


The Miracles (without Smokey) also had a #13 Pop smash with "Do It Baby" , and a Top 10 R&B hit with "Don't Ya Love It" , as well as a Platinum album with The "City Of Angels" LP. Their song "Love Machine" from that album went all the way to # 1 on the pop charts, (something Smokey has yet to do as a solo artist, his highest charting solo hit has been "Being With You" , which reached #2} So many people over the years (the RRHOF induction committee included)have had the misguided impression that Smokey was The Miracles' only talented songwriter. They were wrong. They were all talented songwriters.All of their names are on the writing credits of their many hits. Miracles bass singer Pete Moore , and Smokey's replacement, Billy Griffin, co- wrote the entire "City Of Angels" LP. Smokey had nothing to do with the writing and production of this album. The Miracles had a total of 7 charting singles with Billy Griffin. That they didn't have even more may have had more to do with corporate politics inside Motown, rather than any lack of talent with The Miracles themselves ,(read "lack of promotion"), which explains why they eventually left the label for Columbia Records in the mid '70's. No artist would have a song go all the way to #1 on the pop charts, and have their very next single ("Night Life") chart no higher than # 60 R&B ,unless their was something s e r i o u s l y wrong at the corporate level.

Posted by Bill G on Monday, 09.17.07 @ 21:16pm


On behalf of The Miracles, please visit their web site: www.theoriginalmiracles.net
We look forward to your comments and support.
Thank you,
The Miracles

Posted by J Sorensen on Monday, 01.21.08 @ 08:38am


Yea, i'm disgusted at the omission of the Miracles, and i think personally that Smokey must fight harder for their induction. It makes me sick to my stomach to see someone like Madonna or Grandmaster Flash get in and not the Miracles.

Posted by tony detroit on Sunday, 04.20.08 @ 09:52am


Yes,Tony. I'm disgusted too. Not only because THE MIRACLES are one of the ALL TIME GREAT vocal groups , but also because they have the credentials to BACK IT UP. As I said before, 4 of their songs are in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME. 3 of their songs are in ROLLING STONE'S list of the 500 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIME. They even have 3 songs in THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME'S OWN list of THE 500 SONGS THAT HELPED SHAPE ROCK AND ROLL !! ( How can they honor the SONGS , but NOT THE GROUP THAT RECORDED THEM ?) Their 1965 "GOING TO A GO- GO" ALBUM is in ROLLING STONE'S list of THE 500 GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME. They have been awarded the national RHYTHM AND BLUES ASSOCIATION'S PIONEER AWARD, and have been inducted into THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME. And, ALL of THE MIRACLES (except Claudette) have been awarded the prestigous BMI award for songwriting!! They are in ROLLING STONE'S list of THE IMMORTALS: THE 50 GREATEST ARTISTS OFF ALL TIME!! ( http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5939231/the_immortals__the_greatest_artists_of_all_time_32_smokey_robinson_and_the_miracles). They had MOTOWN'S FIRST # 1 R&B hit,the FIRST MILLION SELLER, and were the FIRST MOTOWN ARTISTS EVER to have a # 1 RECORD IN BRITAIN !!! ( That's right, THE MIRACLES. NOT THE SUPREMES OR TEMPTATIONS !!) And , how did they get there ? TALENT ,GREAT PERFORMANCES, AND CLASS !! They didn't get there by taking off their clothes, and publishing a book about it. They didn't get there by spewing profanities, and recording a song about it.They got there because they were GOOD!! Their accomplishments have EXCEEDED those of many groups and artists that HAVE BEEN INDUCTED .And, I DARE ANYONE to prove that either of the 2 inducted artists you mentioned have as many of their songs covered by as many diverse artists, as THE MIRACLES . To give only ONE person in the group (Smokey) , all of the credit and accolades , while ignoring the other 5 ( Bobby, Ronnie , Marv, Pete, and Claudette ), is not only WRONG, it's CRIMINAL. They started from the beginning, just like him, They co- wrote the songs, just like him , They did all the tours , played all the cheap, dirty dives ,recorded all the songs, endured all of the dangers and rigors of touring ....JUST LIKE HIM. SO ,WHY HAVE THEY BEEN BLACKLISTED FROM INDUCTION INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME ??

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.26.08 @ 00:23am


I'm not a fan of the Miracles myself, but it would be foolish to not recognize their impact (not to mention the fact that Smokey wouldn't have gotten inducted when he did without the Miracles). They're one of three major Motown acts of the 60's that still need to be inducted (along with the Marvelettes and Jr. Walker & the All-Stars).

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 04.26.08 @ 00:57am


You mean four....Don't forget Mary Wells !!

Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 05.4.08 @ 12:20pm


Touche. She has been nominated before. Plus, I'd like to see the Marvs. and All-Stars make it, but don't really think Mary should.

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 05.6.08 @ 16:37pm


The people of Detroit must be infuriated over the MIRACLES' omission. They were the FIRST MAJOR GROUP to put DETROIT on the musical map, long before THE SUPREMES, TEMPTATIONS & THE FOUR TOPS were even HEARD OF. Do you know of any grass roots efforts there to get The MIRACLES inducted ? The people of Cleveland (the O'Jays hometown) really pushed for THE O'JAYS to get in , and now ,they're inducted.

Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05.7.08 @ 06:37am


Thank you, Bill G., for all the information you have posted about the Miracles. When I linked here, I didn't realize the Miracles has not been inducted along with Smokey. There is no doubt, the sound of this great group made its tremendous mark on the music industry...so why isn't the entire group inducted????!!!! They certainly have my vote!!!!!

Posted by mmd4tj on Monday, 06.16.08 @ 13:09pm


I also think that BILLY GRIFFIN, The MIRACLES lead singer during the 1970's, who replaced SMOKEY ROBINSON IN '72, and gave them their BIGGEST HIT EVER, The MULTI-MILLION SELLING "LOVE MACHINE", "DO IT BABY", another 1974 MILLION SELLER , and the Top 10 R&B HIT " DON'TCHA LOVE IT should ALSO be inducted WITH The other MIRACLES. He had a total of 9 charting singles with the group between 1972 - 1978 , and co-wrote (with original MIRACLES member PETE MOORE), THE GROUP'S PLATINUM album, "CITY OF ANGELS" . The MIRACLES have been recently been chosen ,in 2009, to recieve (finally!) their star on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME . (SMOKEY already recieved a solo one several years ago). For details , check out this site : http://chicagoathome.com/dct/62/id/263911/mid/1798/Rush--The-Miracles-Getting-Walk-Of-Fame-Stars.aspx

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.28.08 @ 07:54am


You're very welcome, mmd4tj ... and , thanks for posting !!

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.9.08 @ 23:25pm


More honors and accolades for THE MIRACLES : Their million selling song, "THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS", was honored by the RECORD INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA (RIAA) as #127 on their list of the "SONGS OF THE CENTURY"-the 365 Greatest Songs of the 20th Century, and On May 14, 2008, the song was preserved by the LIBRARY OF CONGRESS as an "culturally, historically and aesthetically significance" to the NATIONAL RECORDING REGISTRY.Also, Cable TV network VH-1 chose The Miracles as # 61 in their list of the 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME. Pretty impressive credentials for a group that THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME doesn't feel is worthy of induction,isn't it ?

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.19.08 @ 09:50am


What is the explanation from the Rock Hall for not inducting Smokey Robinson and the Miracles as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles? Did Smokey Robinson record albums as Smokey Robinson before he recorded albums as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles?

The Supremes, The Temptations, The Four Tops, and Gladys Knight and The Pips were all inducted. Why are The Miracles being treated like Wings, The Silver Bullet Band, The E Street Band and The Revolution?

Posted by Roy on Monday, 09.8.08 @ 10:56am


I think you have to ask Smokey this question? Just like you have to ask Bruce why the E. Street band wasn't inducted.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 09.8.08 @ 11:03am


Smokey NEVER recorded a SINGLE SONG as a solo artist prior to 1972. All of his 50's ,'60's ,and early '70's recordings were as a member of THE MIRACLES. In fact,the group WAS NOT originally known as "Smokey Robinson" & The Miracles. They originally were known simply as "THE MIRACLES" for the first 10 years of their existance. According to the group's 2006 MOTOWN DVD release: "SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES: THE DEFINITIVE PERFORMANCES", the only reason for the name change, was because it was a marketing move on the part of MOTOWN RECORDS head, BERRY GORDY JR, to expand the group's fan base . According to MIRACLES members SMOKEY ROBINSON, BOBBY ROGERS, and PETE MOORE,(who were all interviewed on the DVD), MOTOWN'S market research revealed that whenever a lead singer's name was put in front of a group's name , the group made more money for performance fees because the public was able to connect with that lead singer.This is the same reason why THE SUPREMES' name was changed to "DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES" . and MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS' name was changed to MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS. SMOKEY also made it clear that,despite the name change,ALL of THE MIRACLES continued to make AN EQUAL SHARE for concerts and record royalties. SMOKEY didn't make any more or less money than the other MIRACLES . In fact, he didn't need to . HE WAS THE VICE-PRESIDENT OF MOTOWN RECORDS, and ALREADY MADE AN EXECUTIVE'S SALARY. So,he didn't need it.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 09.9.08 @ 06:30am


That still doesn't explain why they were not inducted. When the Miracles get inducted, will they be inducted as main performers or in the sidemen category? Will Smokey be inducted a second time?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.9.08 @ 07:40am


They should, and will, be MAIN PERFORMERS.They were MOTOWN'S FIRST GROUP. That makes them historically important . THE MIRACLES, in fact , are the single MOST IMPORTANT GROUP ON THE MOTOWN LABEL.They had the label's FIRST MILLION- SELLING RECORD, OVER 50 CHART HITS and have 4 SONGS IN THE GRAMMY HALL OF FAME. Smokey didn't do this all by himself. If inducted , SMOKEY WILL THEN BE A DOUBLE INDUCTEE,just as CURTIS MAYFIELD (inducted solo , and as a member of THE IMPRESSIONS ), MICHAEL JACKSON (inducted solo, and as a member of the JACKSON FIVE) , and ERIC CLAPTON, (INDUCTED 3 TIMES , SOLO, With CREAM, AND WITH DEREK & THE DOMIMOS). THE MIRACLES as a GROUP ,are scheduled to get a STAR on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME in early 2009.

Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 09.9.08 @ 13:32pm


Yes to the Miracles

Posted by mrxyz on Tuesday, 09.9.08 @ 15:26pm


To answer your other question,Roy,the only reason , or reasons, that THE MIRACLES haven't yet been inducted can ONLY be attributed to TWO THINGS .... STUPIDITY AND POLITICS !!! There is NO WAY that a group with their credentials, level of influence, and historical importance (they were THE BEGINNING OF THE ENTIRE MOTOWN PHENONOMON,not to mention their over 50 chart hits)can be TOTALLY IGNORED YEAR AFTER YEAR, FOR TWO DECADES,while 80's RAPPERS, MTV STARS, and ONE-HIT WONDERS CONTINUE TO BE INDUCTED YEAR AFTER YEAR) can be blamed on ANYTHING ELSE !!

Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 06:51am


To learn more about the history of the phenomonal group , check out this site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles

...You'll see why they deserve ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION....And why they should have gotten it YEARS AGO.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 09.28.08 @ 12:05pm


.... or you can simply click on the "WIKIPEDIA" link at the top on this page.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 09.28.08 @ 12:07pm


1) Motown's first group.

2)Motown's first million-selling act.

3)Over 50 chart hits.

4) 4 songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME.

5) 3 songs in ROLLING STONE'S list of the "500 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIME".

6) One album in ROLLING STONE'S LIST OF "THE 500 GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME".

7) 3 SONGS in THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME'S OWN LIST of the "500 SONGS THAT HELPED SHAPE ROCK AND ROLL". (How can they honor the SONGS,BUT NOT THE GROUP THAT RECORDED THEM ?

8) Every member except One (Claudette), winners of the prestegious BMI AWARD for SONGWRITING .

9) Inductees into the VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME.

10) Winners of THE RHYTHM and BLUES FOUNDATION'S PIONEER AWARD.

11) One song ,"The Tracks Of My Tears", chosen by the Record Industry Association Of America (RIAA) as # 127 in it's list of the " SONGS OF THE CENTURY- The 365 GREATEST SONGS OF THE 20TH CENTURY.

12)That same song (The Tracks Of My Tears) preserved by the LIBRARY OF CONGRESS as an "culturally, historically and aesthetically significance" to the NATIONAL RECORDING REGISTRY.

13) Getting a star on THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME in early 2009.

14) The ONLY MOTOWN GROUP during the 1960's that WROTE AND PRODUCED THEIR OWN MATERIAL (ALL of the members , not just their lead singer.)

15) Between 1959 (when Motown was first formed) until 1964, THE LABEL'S ONLY CONSISTANT HITMAKING ACT .

16)"The Tracks Of My Tears"- was also chosen as one of the "Top 10 BEST SONGS OF ALL TIME" by a panel of 20 top industry songwriters and producers including Hal David,Paul McCartney, Brian Wilson, Jerry Leiber,and others as reported to Britain's "MOJO" music magazine.

17) More than 40 of their songs covered by literally HUNDREDS of other artists ...from many different musical genres... POP, ROCK, COUNTRY, REGGAE, MOR(EASY LISTENING), JAZZ ,as well as R&B/SOUL.

18) ALL MEMBERS..writers of hit songs by MARVIN GAYE, MARY WELLS, THE TEMPTATIONS, THE MARVELETTES, KIM WESTON, THE CONTOURS, BRENDA HOLLOWAY, THE FOUR TOPS, and many more....20) Unlike many groups,THE MIRACLES are on ALL 3 LISTS OF THE "100 GREATEST ARTISTS ON ALL TIME"....VH-1'S,BILLBOARD'S, AND ROLLING STONE'S ...So,one can't help but ask...."Why not even CONSIDERED FOR INDUCTION" ? If they reached the point of nomination...they'd get in FOR SURE....SO,SOMEONE is seeing to it that THEY DON'T EVEN GET NOMINATED !!!


19) And... if THATS NOT ENOUGH....
BETWEEN 92 TO 93% OF ALL WHO VOTE ON THIS SITE CONSISTANTLY SAY THAT THEY DEFINITELY DESERVE RRHOF INDUCTION...

..... But STILL NOT INDUCTED AFTER OVER 20 YEARS.

.....NOT EVEN ON THE RRHOF'S LIST OF THOSE "PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED" FOR INDUCTION.

" THE MIRACLES "

20) Unlike many groups,THE MIRACLES are on ALL 3 LISTS OF THE "100 GREATEST ARTISTS ON ALL TIME"....VH-1'S,BILLBOARD'S, AND ROLLING STONE'S ...So,one can't help but ask...."Why not even CONSIDERED FOR INDUCTION" ? If they reached the point of nomination...they'd get in FOR SURE....SO,SOMEONE is seeing to it that THEY DON'T EVEN GET NOMINATED !!!


Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.31.08 @ 08:25am


(re-directed from elsewhere on this site) -by Lax 25:Bill G, I agree with you on Jerry Butler. Butler was as equally important with the Impressions as was Curtis Mayfield: along with his own solo works. I continue to disagree, however, on your prowess for inducting the Miracles on their own accord. It could happen, yet with Smokey Robinson already inducted, it is not feasible to induct Robinson a second time.

Now, I do realise it sounds odd coming from a poster that has lobbyed for Peter Gabriel to be inducted. The matter is, neither Gabriel, nor any of the classic line-up of Genesis (particularly Steve Hackett and Tony Banks along with Peter Gabriel) have yet been inducted. In this case, the tree has not had a branch be inducted. While with the Miracles, the leading figure of the group, Smokey Robinson, is already an inductee. In the aforementioned Peter Gabriel lobbying, it is certain that Gabriel is the certain inductee of the Genesis tree. I am still of the belief that a special acheivement induction format for Gabriel, Hackett, and Banks as both a collective and individuals is likely for the Class of 2009; though if the inductee list is filled, then a likely Performers category induction for Peter Gabriel at least will occur in 2010. Thus, while it is certainly commendable to gain notice of the legacy of the Miracles; I am not certain an induction is necessary when Smokey Robinson is already inducted.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.31.08 @ 08:39am


(my reply to Lax25's comment, also re- directed.)
Lax25....While I respect your opinion concerning THE MIRACLES, again, I must disagree. you're basically saying that it's OK for other groups , such as THE IMPRESSIONS, to be inducted collectively,AND their two principals,JERRY BUTLER and CURTIS MAYFIELD ,to be inducted separately....BUT not so with THE MIRACLES. (Two sets of rules).While THE IMPRESSIONS were a very important group, the fact is simply that THE MIRACLES WERE FAR MORE IMPORTANT. Their appearance , and subsequent success, marked THE BEGINNING OF THE ENTIRE MOTOWN PHENOMONON!! They OPENED THE DOORS FOR EVERY MOTOWN ACT THAT FOLLOWED THEM !! They had more and bigger hits than the IMPRESSIONS, AND MORE MILLION SELLERS. 16 Top 20 BILLBOARD POP Hits and seven Top Tens....more than DOUBLE the number of THE IMPRESSIONS on BOTH CHARTS .This comparision between these two groups was ALSO a topic for discussion on SIRIUS radio recently. ALL of the male members of THE MIRACLES WERE SONGWRITERS ...only TWO of the Impressions were ...and to be frank, JERRY BUTLER didn't stay with the group very long before going solo. Of course, SMOKEY was and is a creative force to be reckoned with....but , consider this: Music critics and historians have many times pointed out about the distinct drop in the quality and consistancy in SMOKEY'S musical composing output after 1967. That time period DIRECTLY CO- RELATES to the point at which he stopped collaberating with the OTHER MIRACLES.... and began co- writing with Motown staff songwriters, such as AL CLEVELAND, TERRY JOHNSON, etc. THE MIRACLES hitmaking output went into a kind of a dead zone from 1968-1970, with few bright spots during that period (Tunes like Yester Love, Special Occasion,Point It Out,etc. were all great songs, but didn't exactly set fire to the charts, and didn't measure up to the quality of "The Tracks Of My Tears". "Ooo Baby Baby","My Girl", or other great songs he composed WITH the MIRACLES). To attempt to minimize the talents and importance of BOBBY ROGERS,PETE MOORE, the late RONNIE WHITE,and MARV TARPLIN is not only UNFAIR, IT'S INACCURATE. Even SMOKEY HAS GONE PUBLIC , PRAISING THEIR TALENT AND ABILITIES !! If THE MIRACLES WERE AS UNIMPORTANT AS YOU (and the RRHOF) IMPLY...THEN WHY IS IT THAT THEY APPEAR ON ALL 3 LISTS OF THE TOP 100 ARTISTS OF ALL TIME.... VH-1'S, ROLLING STONES...AND BILLBOARD'S ? OVER THIRTY YEARS AFTER THEIR LAST CHART HIT ?...A fact that would STILL BE TRUE WHETHER SMOKEY'S NAME WAS PUT IN FRONT OF THE GROUP.... OR NOT ? And while you're thinking about that question...answer THIS ONE...Would you (and others) have been so prone to minimize the importance of the MIRACLES IF MOTOWN HADN'T MADE THE DECISION TO PUT SMOKEY'S NAME UP FRONT ? And would the same misfortune have ALSO befallen THE IMPRESSIONS had Curtis Mayfield's name HAD ALSO BEEN PUT UPFRONT?

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.31.08 @ 08:41am


(this comment made by the Claw-redirected from elsewhere on this site)
That said, I would say most of us will agree with you that The Miracles should have been inducted along with Smokey. It was a big mistake they only inducted him, one of their biggest. The reason I think they shouldn't be nominated, is not that I don't think The Miracles deserve to get in the Hall, but that a second induction for Smokey would make his solo work more important than it is. Sure, the name one of his solo hit singles was the main influence to name a genre "Quiet Storm", but his solo work is not nearly as influential as his work with The Miracles. On the other hand, both The Impressions and Curtis Mayfield's solo work made a big impact on music history, in different genres.

I do think The Miracles should be inducted, but not the regular way. I don't want to see them appear on a ballot, I want the Hall of Fame to admit and correct their mistake by inducting them right away, adding "& The Miracles" to Smokey's name. And off course, they should get an invitation to the induction ceremony. That way, their work could get celebrated without inducting Smokey Robinson twice.

Posted by The Claw on Friday, 10.24.08 @ 04:17am

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.31.08 @ 08:44am


Another thing I'd to mention (while it's on my mind) is this: On their "100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME" telecast,when ranking THE MIRACLES, VH-1 refered to them as "THE PILLARS OF THE MOTOWN SOUND". PLURAL....NOT SINGULAR. (NOT JUST SMOKEY).HOW can the RRHOF induct all of the BRANCHES of THE MOTOWN TREE...WHILE IGNORING THE ROOTS ??

Posted by Bill G on Friday, 10.31.08 @ 08:50am


(this Comment is by Stan Crawford, re- directed here from elsewhere on this site:)

To Bill G. & LAX---Bill G is right when it comes to Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. Actually LAX if anyone would deserve special awards or nominations--Smokey Robinson Deserves it before anyone in Genesis---But in all honesty neither will get special induction ceremonies. Smokey can get inducted in the non performer catagory for his song writing skills but he will be inducted as a performer more likely!!! As for Genesis and Peter Gabriel---All performers that's it for them!!! and obviously not until next year or later because THEY ARE A GOOD BAND THAT HAS FAILED TO MAKE LEGENDARY STATUS!!!

Posted by Stan Crawford on Saturday, 10.18.08 @ 10:00am

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.31.08 @ 08:56am


This is Bill G. I'm in the process of re- directing several comments about THE MIRACLES/RRHOF controversy from elsewhere on the FUTURE ROCK HALL website here, because they're directly applicable to this issue. More comments follow.....

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:10am


(this is the comment that I first made that started the firestorm):

THE MIRACLES are RANKED HIGHER than ALL OF THE OTHER TOP MOTOWN GROUPS on BOTH OF THESE LISTS.... THE SUPREMES, THE TEMPTATIONS, THE FOUR TOPS, GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS, AND MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS....SO, WHY ARE ALL OF THESE GROUPS INDUCTED...WHILE THE MIRACLES ARE NOT ??

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:14am


(Here's what happened next....LET THE GAMES BEGIN...)

Bill G.,

You are very determined on behalf of the Miracles, which is noble and right. But you surely know yourself the hard answer to your question. The RHOF deemed to separate Smokey from the Miracles. Then they inducted him as a solo artist.

I checked and 8 of 10 of Smokey Robinson's "essential" songs are songs done while lead singer in the Miracles. But I doubt if the RHOF would now be inclined to make a separate induction of the Miracles. Think your best strategy is to get the RHOF to amend(?) Smokey's induction to include "& The Miracles." If you were able to get Smokey himself onboard with that idea, it should certainly be possible. Would he?

I think you should take your case directly to Smokey Robinson. You could write 50,000 words on this site and might just be wasting your time (sorry, people might agree, but nobody here can actually DO anything). If yor serious about this, go straight on to Smokey and convince HIM to do what you think is right.

Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 10.15.08 @ 16:42pm

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:18am


(My reply to Telerock:)

Hi, Telarock. I understand and agree what you're saying, but consider this:
The RRHOF inducted THE IMPRESSIONS and Curtis Mayfield separately;

THE JACKSON FIVE and Michael separately;

THE BEATLES and 3 of their individual members separately

....And ERIC CLAPTON 3 times.

and this comimg year, if LITTLE ANTHONY & THE IMPERIALS are inducted...

SAMMY STRAIN will be a DOUBLE INDUCTEE...HE STARTED with THE IMPERIALS many years ago(LATE 50'S / EARLY 60'S)...SANG WITH,AND WAS A MEMBER OF THE O'JAYS from '76 until 1992...WAS INDUCTED AS A MEMBER...
AND THEN, RETURNED TO THE IMPERIALS IN 1992...AND SANG WITH THEM UNTIL HE RETIRED IN '04.
JOHNNY CARTER WAS ALSO INDUCTED TWICE...AS A MEMBER OF THE DELLS... AND THE FLAMINGOS.

So as you can see, the RRHOF has ALREADY set precedents for artists to be inducted more than once YEARS AGO. All they have to do is induct SMOKEY TWICE....This time WITH the MIRACLES.
Smokey recieved a star on THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME many years ago....Now , in early 2009, THE MIRACLES as a GROUP wil be honored....which means he'll be a DOUBLE HONOREE.
There's no reason the RRHOF can't do the SAME THING.

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:20am


Bill G.,

You got me caught up in this thing now, but thats okay, cause its an interesting case.

You essentially are going for a dual induction of Smokey (one w/Miracles, one w/o), and there are several precedents for that. The Impressions and Curtis Mayfield is a good example (so I looked into it). The major difference is that The Impressions went in first as a group (1991), then Curtis went in as a soloist (1999). That's the order that should have gone down with The Miracles and Smokey. But having Smokey go in first as a soloist (1987) makes it now difficult to get The Miracles to complete the dual induction. Of course you know all that (but readers here maybe dont).

Now there is one other major hitch. ICO The Impressions, the 10 "essential" songs listed are all different ones than the 10 given for Curtis as a soloist - altogether 20 different songs given ICO that dual induction.

Of the 10 essential songs given for Smokey Robinson, 8 of them are with The Miracles, 2 of them w/o. Its a jumbled situation. I still think you should go and work this out with Smokey Robinson - when they get together for the Star on Hollywood Walk of Fame, that would be a good opportunity?

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 11:30am

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:22am


Bill G.,

You got me caught up in this thing now, but thats okay, cause its an interesting case.

You essentially are going for a dual induction of Smokey (one w/Miracles, one w/o), and there are several precedents for that. The Impressions and Curtis Mayfield is a good example (so I looked into it). The major difference is that The Impressions went in first as a group (1991), then Curtis went in as a soloist (1999). That's the order that should have gone down with The Miracles and Smokey. But having Smokey go in first as a soloist (1987) makes it now difficult to get The Miracles to complete the dual induction. Of course you know all that (but readers here maybe dont).

Now there is one other major hitch. ICO The Impressions, the 10 "essential" songs listed are all different ones than the 10 given for Curtis as a soloist - altogether 20 different songs given ICO that dual induction.

Of the 10 essential songs given for Smokey Robinson, 8 of them are with The Miracles, 2 of them w/o. Its a jumbled situation. I still think you should go and work this out with Smokey Robinson - when they get together for the Star on Hollywood Walk of Fame, that would be a good opportunity?

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 11:30am

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:24am


On afterthought, there one more important variable. The Miracles continued on with new lead singer after Smokey left, and had at least one major hit song "Love Machine." So when you bring up the dual induction idea, perhaps you mean to induct The Miracles as a free-standing group (not with Smokey Robinson's name in front)? That makes the problem even more difficult.

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 11:55am

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:25am


....Not really, Telarock. Because "THE MIRACLES" (minus Smokey's name up front), was the group's ORIGINAL NAME ANYWAY ....for the first 10 years !! If you can, pick up a copy of THE MIRACLES' MOTOWN 2006 "Definitive DVD".(It's available on AMAZON & EBAY.). 3 of the Miracles are interviewed, Smokey,Bobby ,and Pete. During the 70 minute interview,they mentioned that the only reason Motown head BERRY GORDY changed ther name was because MOTOWN'S market research revealed that whenever a lead singer's name was put in front of a group, that group made more money for performance fees,because the audience could more greatly identify with that lead singer.The SUPREMES and VANDELLAS NAMES WERE CHANGED FOR THE SAME REASON. However , Smokey made it clear during the interview that, while the group's earnings increased, he NEVER made any MORE OR LESS money than the other MIRACLES. All of the group members made an EQUAL SHARE for royalties and personal appearences.As to your other question , their song "DO IT BABY" was also a million-seller and peaked at #13 pop on the BILLBOARD HOT 100 (YOU CAN SEE THEM PERFORMING IT ON THE DVD ,AND ON YOUTUBE) .AND "DONT'CHA LOVE IT" went Top 10 R&B .They had six other charting singles as well.Smokey had MORE AND BIGGER HITS WITH the MIRACLES, than he did by himself . Also ,Their song LOVE MACHINE (featuring Smokey's replacement ,BILLY GRIFFIN hit #1 POP. Smokey HASN'T hit #1 as a solo artist....The closest he came was with "BEING WITH YOU",which reached #2. Please do me a favor. When you get a chance, go to WIKIPEDIA, and look up "THE MIRACLES" (Yes, that's how they're listed) Read the article...and let me know if what you read , in your opinion,qualifies them for RRHOF induction or not. Then look up THE RONETTES and PERCY SLEDGE (both inducted)...compare them to THE MIRACLES ... AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. Thanks.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 18:34pm

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:26am


(from Telerock:)

Okay, have done the research. Forget the comparisons to other groups (only gets you sidetracked).

Let's say you are right, and The Miracles deserve to be nominated as a free-standing group, which probably will necessitate a rewrite of Smokey Robinson's solo induction - because you are NOT advocating for a group called "Smokey Robinson and The Miracles" your case is for the group called "THE MIRACLES." (Hope that at least defines your argument correctly.) What would be the steps needed for that outcome?

We both would allow that Smokey Robinson does belong in the RHOF as a solo inductee. He did 25 solo albums and had solo hit songs, as well as doing a lot of writing and production work with Motown.

If the committee nominated The Miracles, you would have it be on the same basis as say, The Temptations, w/o any lead billing. You want both Smokey and Billy Griffin listed simply as individuals of the one group. There's no problem with that logic that I can see.

The problem is that induction is a voting process. Smokey Robinson was already voted in with 8 of 10 of his essential songs being the group's songs. How you gonna reset that? Just getting ONCE through the nominating committee is like running a gauntlet of rottweilers, and having to wear bacon pants! (something I heard ... mayby not funny?) Point is, you need to look for a way around that whole process. The only way I know is to get Smokey Robinson involved. Get HIM on board.



Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 21:13pm

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:31am


The fact of the matter is ,the RRHOF violated THEIR OWN RULE by inducting SMOKEY as a SOLO ARTIST IN 1987. SMOKEY NEVER RECORDED A SINGLE SONG AS A SOLO ARTIST PRIOR TO 1972. His ENTIRE RECORDED OUTPUT from the beginning of his career (1957) until 1972 was as a member of THE MIRACLES.Counting forward from that year ,the year of his first solo recording ,25 years forward, he WOULDN'T HAVE QUALIFYED AS A SOLO ARTIST UNTIL 1997, NOT 1987, the year he WAS inducted. This is what happened to CURTIS MAYFIELD, which is why THE IMPRESSIONS were inducted FIRST, THEN CURTIS LATER . THE MIRACLES as a GROUP,however, qualified in the VERY FIRST YEAR of RRHOF inductions,1987,as they had been around 30 years by then. This controversy concerning THE MIRACLES and the RRHOF has recieved significant attention on SIRIUS radio in recent weeks. The question is...are they going to do the right thing ,and AMEND their mistake...or are they going to continue to ignore MOTOWN'S legendary FIRST GROUP...AND REFUSE TO INDUCT THEM AT ALL ? SMOKEY DIDN'T WRITE ALL OF THOSE HITS BY HIMSELF...one look at the records will prove THAT. (Robinson,Rogers,Moore,White, Tarplin)...AND..The OTHER inducted MOTOWN groups DIDN'T WRITE ANY....but THEY'RE IN...and THE MIRACLES ARE NOT ?? What distorted logic dictated THAT ? It's not like The Miracles were BACKUPS OR SIDEMEN...like THE E-STREET BAND OR THE COMETS. They were all one cohesive group... and SMOKEY WAS JUST A MEMBER , LIKE ALL OF THE OTHERS. Even the decision to make him lead singer in THE FIRST PLACE WAS A GROUP DECISION !! THE RRHOF VIOLATED ALL OF THEIR OWN RULES IN ORCHESTRATING THIS FARCE...Maybe one day they'll make it right. I don't know if SMOKEY can do it all himself,but ,if he has any power at all to do so , he should . He has nothing to lose, and everything to gain. At the very least, the other Miracles,BOBBY,RONNIE,PETE, CLAUDETTE,MARV, AND BILLY,WILL BE IN. At the very MOST, HE'LL BE A DOUBLE INDUCTEE. Not a bad feather to put in your cap, right ?

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.17.08 @ 13:45pm

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:32am


Bill, now you/we r at least coming near a solution, which is good - this thread has gotten very long. (FYI, I have my own particular favorite artists to promote.) Now if indeed Smokey Robinson has nothing to lose, may in fact gain from it, he should speak up. Afterall, he is on the inside. He's a member of the RHOF club. He is empowered "to make it right."

If HE comes forward and says The Miracles should be in the RHOF, the governors will certainly listen. If he stays mute, that ironically speaks loud (against yor cause). The easiest thing would be to amend Smokey Robinson's induction to be "Smokey Robinson & The Miracles." (what happens then with Billy Griffin?) Any other solution is harder because it would likely require the whole vote process. I can't imagine Smokey would agree to remove his name? And I don't think you can just instate The Miracles as a new entity - not without voting? True, Smokey Robinson shouldn't mind because he would then be as you said a double inductee. But this latter option, the one you favor, doesn't go down well. At least not with me. Because then you would have two separate entities inducted by virtue of only one election.

Its a hard knot. But what I suggest (humbly) for you to do is to define a clear-cut course of action. Take into account what is reasonable and what is feasible. (Don't curse the darkness, light a candle.) Put together a plan and get after the people who can DO something. I'm not saying you will have your way in the end. I haven't even heard the other side of the story in this case. Does anybody out there have another side to this?

No more railing here please, Bill. We've covered this and now we understand your whole point. Go and crash down your argument on the right people!

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 10.17.08 @ 16:34pm

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:34am


Bill, as usual, am having an afterthought. Because its a fresh new induction of "The Miracles" you seek, you probably need to get that through the nominating committee. I've had some experience in doing that - its a tuff nut to crack! Even if you could get The Miracles nominated in the regular way (a real Miracle it might be), you still need to get them elected. That's why it makes sense (to me) to go for the amendment "& The Miracles". Seems to be that's what you wanted back in 1987?

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 10.17.08 @ 17:12pm

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:35am


(and then, Lax25 commented:)

I stand corrected on a great deal of the facts, Bill G.

I need to poitnout, though, a few things. Gladys Knight and Martha Reeves were essentially inducted on their own: it just felt right to include the Vendellas and the Pips as well considering the inseperable nature presented. As well, there is a difference of opinion in regards to if it is the Supremes or Diana Ross and the Supremes as it became widely known. On that matter, Diana Ross may already be inducted on her own accord then.

Regarding the Miracles, it is possible that the ship has sailed for a seperate induction. We all know that Smokey Robinson is inducted; it therefore entails that his entire works and writings are included. And that does include the Miracles songs and albums.

Why, then, would Robinson need to be inducted again, only this time with a group? As well, I doubt the induction in 1987 of Smokey Robinson would be amended to include the Miracles 21 years after the fact.

Look, if you get one singular individual inducted into the RRHOF, either as only themselves or after a group induction, that ends all matters of induction. For instance, Eric Clapton is not going to be inducted for the fourth time to accomodate Derek and the Dominoes. That was for all purposes Clapton, and Eric Clapton was inducted on his own in 2000.

Likewise, my lobbying efforts have been used to campaign for the eventual induction of Peter Gabriel on his own accord primarily. I am of the inference that Gabriel will be inducted liekly in a special acheivement format for the Class of 2009: this would include the classic lineup of Genesis and each members' individual works, particulary Gabriel, Steve Hackett and Tony Banks. Now, Gabriel could also go in as a non-performer which may be a stretch. If not this time, then Gabriel is a shoo-in for 2010 in the Performers Category.

Now then, when Peter Gabriel does get inducted on his own accord, that will be the end of the matter for his induction. By every inference and knowledge given, Gabriel is the lock for induction in the Genesis tree. Now, my preference would be for a special acheivement induction format that would include the Genesis works and the entire individual works of the classic lineup, or at least its main figures. Yet, even if an induction goes only for Peter Gabriel, his Genesis songs and recordings are included for induction. Thus, Genesis from inception through 1975 will be inducted: it will be either with Peter Gabriel, or in the special acheivement format.

In another point, Lionel Richie may likely be inducted in the near future, hopefully by 2010. A Richie induction will include the songs and recordings of the Commodores from inception through 1981. Much like the Smokey Robinson edict, the Hall of Fame has more reason to induct Lionel Richie on his own, and eschew inducting the Commodores in the group format. And frankly, Richie would in all likelihood prefer it this way; it is his own induction eventually.

To note, it is a great honor to be inducted into the RRHOF with a group. To be inducted as an individual, notably after a group induction, is much sweeter and revered. And to be inducted with a group after being inducted on your own is rather odd. Neil Young, for instance, was inducted in 1995, then with Buffalo Springfield was inducted again in 1997. Young was at the ceremonies in 1995. He was not there two years later. In the next two or so years, Sting will be considered and likely inducted for his individual works. I can guarentee you that Sting might look forward to that induction, as opposed to being content with going in with the Police.

Thus, Smokey Robinson, in my belief, is more content being inducted on his own. Lionel Richie will be inducted on his own. And out of all branches of the Genesis tree, Peter Gabriel will be the one that is certain to be inducted, likely in a special acheivement form with his bandmates in 2009; though other processes may take place.

Hope this clarfies some words,

Lax25



Posted by Lax25 on Friday, 10.17.08 @ 19:14pm

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:52am


"King of Motown". Gee Telarock you seem to have a thing for "Kings"??? LOL If it were not for Gordy and the "The Miracles" it could of been Smokey who... ???
Smokey is great but the Miracles are the greatest..
As in The Stones as a group they are TOP of the Charts.. alone they are good .
Hopefully the Facts will win out not the re -write of History...
LETS HOPE YES TO THE MIRACLES {We could all use some}

Posted by mrxzy on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 11:54am


(This was my 2-part reply:)

To Lax 25: (Pt 1). Thank You for your comments. in reply, let me make a few points IN FAVOR of The Miracles being inducted. These are valid points that I've made comments on elsewhere.
Point One: The Miracles had a total of not one,not two, but NINE charting singles without Smokey. Three of these reached the Top 10 of Billboard's R&B chart, "Do It Baby", "Love Machine", and "Don't Cha Love It". The first two of those songs were million-plus sellers, and "Love Machine" was a multi-million seller. It also reached #1 on the Billboard Pop Chart...something that Smokey HAS YET to do as a solo artist....his highest - charting solo single was "Being With You" , which reached #2.
Point Two: The Miracles "City Of Angels" album , from which "Love Machine" was taken , went Platinum....also something Smokey has yet to do solo...although he has had several solo Gold albums to his credit.
Point Three: Curtis Mayfield was BY FAR the creative composing genius behind his group ,The IMPRESSIONS. Sam Gooden and Fred Cash didn't write songs , and the group's original lead, JERRY BUTLER was & is a writer, but had long since left the group. Yet , The Impressions AND Curtis were given separate inductions into the Hall. Why not the Miracles ?
I submit to you this: ALL OF THE MIRACLES were writers (Except Claudette). ALL OF THEIR NAMES WERE LISTED AS WRITERS ON THEIR SONGS (not to mention songs by THE TEMPTATIONS, MARVIN GAYE, MARY WELLS, ETC. ...NOT JUST SMOKEY'S. How many times have you picked up an album by THE MIRACLES or THE TEMPTATIONS...looked at the writing credits and seen the names ROBINSON, ROGERS, MOORE ,WHITE , and TARPLIN...as opposed to just "ROBINSON" by itself ? I've seen PLENTY!! The other MIRACLES were BIG contributors to their body of work...yet THE OTHER INDUCTED MOTOWN GROUPS DIDN'T WRITE ANY !!! Name ONE song written by ANY member of THE TEMPTATIONS or THE SUPREMES that reached the Top 10. How about the Top 20 ?...How about even the Top 40? (good luck looking ). Now , how about THE MIRACLES ? THERE ARE DOZENS !!! Don't BELIEVE IT ? Go to Wikipedia and check out this site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_The_Miracles_members . (End of Pt 1)



Posted by Bill G on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 02:07am

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 12:13pm


To Lax 25 (Pt.2)

Again, I submit to you this: HOW CAN THE SUPREMES, THE TEMPTATIONS,THE FOUR TOPS, MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS, and GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS BE INDUCTED ...WHO (with a few exceptions) DIDN'T WRITE SONGS....while the MIRACLES , who wrote or co- wrote literally DOZENS OF HITS, with and without Smokey,BE COMPLETELY IGNORED?
That platinum CITY OF ANGELS album was written IN IT'S ENTIRETY BY MIRACLES PETE MOORE & BILLY GRIFFIN.Smokey had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WRITING OR PRODUCTION OF THIS ALBUM..( so much for the theory that THE MIRACLES could do nothing without HIM.
So much for reasons why THE MIRACLES SHOULDN'T BE inducted.
Now, let me tell you why I think they SHOULD.
1) Historical Importance/First of Genre: Motown is considered a genre unto itself... because it was the FIRST form of R&B/Black Music that broke down all racial and ethnic barriers with it's popularity.
THE MIRACLES were the FIRST MOTOWN GROUP. It was their groundbraking success that opened the doors and paved the way for ALL OTHER MOTOWN STARS.They also had MOTOWN'S first-ever million-selling record: "SHOP AROUND". From the 5 year period from 1959 whem Motown Records was first formed , until 1964,THE MIRACLES were the label's ONLY CONSISTANT HITMAKING ACT.
2) "Influence"-While on Wikipedia, if you check here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles#Cover_versions , you'll find that THE MIRACLES are THE MOST COVERED MOTOWN GROUP OF ALL TIME. The list of artists that have covered their songs includes artists from many different musical genres: POP, JAZZ, COUNTRY, MOR/EASY LISTENING,ROCK AND HIP-HOP.... as well as SOUL/R&B. They were JOHN LENNON'S favorite group...several of the BEATLES songs ...including ASK ME WHY and SEXY SADIE ,were DIRECTLY INFLUENCED BY MIRACLES' SONGS.... and that's a fact you can check !!
3) CREATIVITY: we already talked about this one: THE MIRACLES WROTE THEIR OWN STUFF....THE OTHERS DIDN'T. SMOKEY is a songwriting genius.... no one is denying that...but to give him ALL OF THE CREDIT ....WHEN ALL OF THE GROUP'S MEMBERS WERE PART OF THE WRITING AND PRODUCING PROCESS.... IS DEFINITELY UNFAIR. They started from the beginning...just like him. They co- wrote the songs... just like him...they did all of the dates, played all of the cheap, dirty dives,endured all of the dangers and rigors of touring...JUST LIKE HIM....so where does it say that HE SHOULD GET ALL OF THE PROPS AND ACCOLADES....AND THEY GET NONE. They had THE SAME ORIGINAL MEMBER LINEUP FOR 17 YEARS !! IF THE RRHOF did this to the MIRACLES....THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IT to ALL THE MOTOWN GROUPS.....AND INDUCTED ONLY DIANA ROSS, DAVID RUFFIN, LEVI STUBBS, MARTHA REEVES , AND GLADYS KNIGHT. Did THESE people get inducted as "solo' artists ? No. They were inducted with their groups !!! I'm not saying that Smokey does not deserve individual recognizion....BUT..HE'S ALREADY GOTTEN IT !! MANY TIMES OVER .... as have MICHAEL JACKSON,ERIC CLAPTON,the aforementioned CURTIS MAYFIELD,AND EACH INDIVIDUAL BEATLE (except Ringo...and HE'LL probably get in solo before long) All of these people have been inducted solo... AND with their groups....Smokey has been inducted solo over 20 years ago. And please keep in mind... that his name WAS NOT ORIGINALLY PUT IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP...FOR MANY YEARS THEY WERE SIMPLY KNOWN AS "THE MIRACLES".... NOT "Smokey Robinson" & The Miracles.
It's time for the RRHOF to do the right thing,and induct SMOKEY ROBINSON,(again), BOBBY ROGERS, PETE MOORE , RONNIE WHITE (RIP),CLAUDETTE ROBINSON, MARV TARPLIN, AND BILLY GRIFFIN.
In fact , it's long past time.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 02:11am

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 12:18pm


Oh, and one more thing...Smokey HAS reunited with THE MIRACLES...SEVERAL TIMES. Check out the INFO,PICTURES ,LINKS AND THEIR NEW DVD HERE :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 02:31am

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 12:19pm


Then , Phillip replied , concerning Lax25's comment about Gladys Knight's and Martha Reeves' "individual inductions"...)

"I need to poitnout, though, a few things. Gladys Knight and Martha Reeves were essentially inducted on their own: it just felt right to include the Vendellas and the Pips as well considering the inseperable nature presented."--Lax.

WTF? No they were not inducted on their own. Just because the front person for a group for a group is listed separately doesn't mean the group is inducted when in fact it is THE GROUP LISTED as the inductee. Martha Reeves' and Gladys Knight's solo accomplishments are hardly noteworthy, which is why in the group's discographies, nine times out of ten, you might see the solo stuff included in such cases. Martha as a soloist has no chance of getting in (and I say this as a fan of Martha & the Vandellas). Same with Gladys Knight. Her highlight as a soloist was as one of the "Friends" on Dionne Warwick's "That's What The Friends Are For." As another for instance... Frankie Lymon had a solo career, but it was "Frankie Lymon And The Teenagers" who were inducted, not just the frontman. Lymon will never be inducted as a soloist.

In the case of Smokey Robinson, there is a big enough and distinct enough body of work to separate his solo work from that of the Miracles. The same cannot be said for solo Knight or Reeves.

"As well, there is a difference of opinion in regards to if it is the Supremes or Diana Ross and the Supremes as it became widely known. On that matter, Diana Ross may already be inducted on her own accord then."

No she is not. The Supremes are listed as the inductee in 1988. She has not been inducted (or even considered) as a soloist.

"And out of all branches of the Genesis tree, Peter Gabriel will be the one that is certain to be inducted, likely in a special acheivement form with his bandmates in 2009."

Keep telling yourself that. But it's more likely that all nine Performer nominees will be inducted because the vote comes out as a nine-way tie.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 10.18.08 @ 00:36am

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 12:24pm


To Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 12:24pmpoint Two: The Miracles "City Of Angels" album , from which "Love Machine" was taken , went Platinum....also something Smokey has yet to do solo...although he has had several solo Gold albums to his credit.

I agree It is The Miracles that made it and Him big .. Funny most of the "King" have lost the luster when they pushed the King thing ..I always wonder why they need to be a "KING". Seems a lack of self assurance to me lol They were most times better before being the "KING" or were never that good to begin with.....Yes Smokey is Good but as mentioned the hits and my hat off to the Miracles..!!!
YES to the Miracles!!!

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 12:54pm


(This comment is from Benny...re- directed frpm the RUN-DMC SITE:)

To: Bill(ALL CAPS)G.
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Ref: "FOR THOSE WHO SAY SMOKEY WAS THE GROUP'S ONLY TALENTED WRITER, I SAY,"WHAT ABOUT "LOVE MACHINE " WRITTEN BY MIRACLES PETE MOORE & BILLY GRIFFIN.... A MULTI- MILLION SELLING #1 POP SMASH...."
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Now I see where you are coming from. Are you indeed above ref Mr. Griffin? You are very adamant about The Miracles.



Posted by Benny on Friday, 10.10.08 @ 17:44pm

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 13:18pm


Yes, Benny . I'm refering to Billy Griffin. But , ALL of The Miracles were talented songwriters,and have written songs for many different artists , so that's why I take issue with the RRHOF's decision to induct Smokey Robinson alone.
when you get a chance , go to Wikipedia, and you'll see what I mean . Look up this heading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_The_Miracles_members

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 13:19pm


I totally agree with you, mrxyz!!
It's funny, the people who are voting against the Miracles either don't know the group's songs or accomplishments ...or have never bothered to look them up in WIKIPEDIA to just see what this group HAS done. Their impact on the industry has been far reaching and considerable...and they DO deserve induction.
Or, they're just not fans of the group.... and , that's OK,because everybody is not going to be a fan of every group.
But, if you look at their site , and see just how many artists have covered their songs, from every different musical genre...including POP,ROCK, COUNTRY,REGGAE,MOR,AND SOUL/R&B...
You'll see that there are a LOT of MIRACLES fans out there.
I am a fan of the Miracles, and have been all of my life.But, I'm not just speaking from a fan's perspective.
To all who disagree,all I have to say is....
go to their site in Wikipedia, and read it.And see what they've done.
The facts will speak for themselves.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 13:38pm


Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 13:38pmTo all who disagree,all I have to say is....
go to their site in Wikipedia, and read it.And see what they've done.
The facts will speak for themselves

Agreed Bill G.
Funny about FACTS it seems that FACTS can get in the way of or when the History is re- written,with disregards and respect to the FACTS..

It was the TEAM not the so called KING that made the "The Miracles". If it were not for the TEAM it could of been Smokey who.?

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 13:49pm


I guess I'm a little surprised that the Miracles weren't inducted with Smokey. What an ego he must have to go in without his group...there's no recollection that he actually threw a fit about it. His so-called solo hits were vanilla at best. The real memorable songs were performed by "Smokey Robinson & the Miracles".

Unfortunately, that is going to be a hard one to remedy, since Smokey had already taken all the credit. Yes, he wrote a few hits, but he was inducted as a performer, I believe. The nominating committee would also have to admit that they goofed...fat chance of that happening!!

Bill G....I feel your pain, man!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.1.08 @ 16:30pm


Thanks, Gitarzan....it's nice that someone does !!

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 11.2.08 @ 02:13am


The MIRACLES will be recieving their star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame on Friday, March 20th 2009.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 03.16.09 @ 21:14pm


The MIRACLES will be recieving their star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame on Friday, March 20th 2009.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 03.16.09 @ 21:14pm
Is that the Rock Walk..?

Posted by mrxyz on Monday, 03.16.09 @ 21:21pm


Not sure. I read an article today, (3/17) and it said their star would be near Smokey's individual star, and that of other Motown artists. here's the essence of the article:



The Miracles to be Honored With Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame!

The Miracles will be honored with the 2,381st star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on March 20, 2009 at 11:30 a.m., joining an elite group of performers and entertainment industry professionals.

The star honorees are the original Miracles’ lineup: Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White (posthumously), Pete Moore, Smokey Robinson, and the First Lady of Motown, Claudette Robinson. Additional members to be included in the ceremony include: Marvin Tarplin and Billy Griffin.


The Motown Sound began in 1959 with The Miracles, the very first of Berry Gordy’s massively successful pool of performers. From their unpolished start, they were special, diamonds in the rough. Gordy, already a successful songwriter, with hits by the likes of Jackie Wilson and Etta James, heard it in their voices and in the songs scribbled in Smokey’s notebook.

With Gordy, The Miracles launched the “Sound of Young America,” and the rest is musical history. From their doo-wop roots, with songs like “Bad Girl” and “Got A Job,” to the 60’s and 70’s smashes “Shop Around,” “You Really Got A Hold On Me,” “Ooo Baby, Baby,” “Tears Of A Clown,” “Do It Baby” and “Love Machine,” The Miracles tore down barriers of intolerance, and got the people of the world dancing.

The group’s songwriting talents, close harmonies, precise choreography, and the smooth lead tenor sounds of Smokey Robinson was a combination equivalent to musical dynamite. Add the premier guitar work and songwriting of Marvin Tarplin, career-long companion to The Miracles, and you’ve got the soundtrack of a generation.

The music has never stopped. 50 years after they began, original member and beloved tenor/baritone Bobby Rogers still tours and records with a new lineup. Founding members Claudette Robinson and Pete Moore occasionally join them for special performances. She’s that lilting voice on the top of the harmonies - her beauty and sweetness made her the crush of countless teenage boys. And yes, she really was the first girl singer ever signed to Gordy’s hit-making company. Pete is that irreplaceable smooth, deep bass on the bottom, which made songs such as ‘Doggone Right’ and ‘Got A Job’ unforgettable.

Smokey Robinson performs non-stop as a solo artist, his falsetto and charm intact, causing another generation of girls to swoon. Always, all perform in memory of late member Ron White.

Even the oldest songs are fresh today. When they began, little did they know that they were singing and writing songs that would become music standards. Everywhere we go in the 21st century, their voices and those songs are heard daily.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 03.17.09 @ 21:32pm


All of the six original members will be honored : Bobby Rogers, Pete Moore,Smokey Robinson, Ron White (posthumously), Marv Tarplin, And Claudette Rogers-Robinson. Also, the group's first and most important replacement member, Billy Griffin, who replaced Smokey in 1972, and sang with the group til 1978 (Do It Baby,Love Machine, Don't Let It End, etc) ,will be honored . All of the surviving members will be present. Motown Founder ,Berry Gordy Jr.,and Stevie Wonder will also be among those present to honor The Miracles.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 03.17.09 @ 21:44pm


Now...About that RRHOF Induction.....

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 03.17.09 @ 21:50pm


MIRACLES GET WALK OF FAME HONOUR

SMOKEY ROBINSON’s soul supergroup THE MIRACLES are to be honoured with the 2,381st star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
The founding members of the group, including Robinson and Pete Moore, will unveil the star on 20 March (09).
Motown boss Berry Gordy and soul legend Stevie Wonder will honour the Miracles.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 03.17.09 @ 22:34pm


Well. It finally happened this past Friday.(3/20/09)... The MIRACLES FINALLY ,FINALLY got their star on The Hollywood Walk of Fame(it's about TIME)... and I was there to see it. CONGRATS to SMOKEY,(now a DOUBLE HONOREE), BOBBY, PETE, CLAUDETTE,the family of RONNIE, and BILLY GRIFFIN . (Marv Tarplin,however, was inexplicably absent....Does anyone know why ?) OH, and another thing....the star says "THE MIRACLES" (the group's original name...NOT "Smokey Robinson" & The Miracles...that's also how they're listed in Wikipedia), and how they SHOULD BE. Hopefully, this will FINALLY convince the RRHOF Induction Committee that The Miracles are a GROUP...Not just "Smokey Robinson-and-his-background-singers". Let's hope for a 2010 induction.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 03.22.09 @ 23:14pm


I could NEVER understand why so many people praise The Temptations & The Supremes , who ,in point of fact ,never wrote a SINGLE MAJOR HIT FOR ANYBODY , while THE MIRACLES , WHO WROTE & PRODUCED DOZENS of hits for themselves and numerous other artists ,(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_The_Miracles_members) have had to wait 50 YEARS to get a star on the Walk of Fame... and have STILL NOT BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK &ROLL HALL OF FAME AS OF 2009. Hopefully , getting this star will force the RRHOF to PAY ATTENTION .

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 03.23.09 @ 23:08pm


MORE RE-DIRECTED COMMENTS....
"deemand wrote:
I can disagree Dameon. Get over it BILL G, it would take a miracle for the Miracles to get in. Not gonna happen."

Thank you for sharing that.

" Philip wrote:
While I don't disagree with Bill, I wanna point out that Stevie Wonder also wrote a lot of his own stuff, and he was on Motown during the 60's".

Hello again, Philip. Good to hear from you . I just wanted to repeat what I said. Here's my quote:
What's more,out of ALL of the 60's MOTOWN GROUPS,THE MIRACLES were the ONLY ONES that wrote their own material....THE OTHERS DIDN'T.
The operative word here is "GROUP" . I wasn't talking about solo artists. You're quite right about Stevie...he DID write a lot of his own material...as did Marvin Gaye...but The Miracles were the only GROUP that did. However, even those 2 artists owe a LOT to The Miracles .Stevie Wonder was actually DISCOVERED by them . On March 20th 2009, I was there at the Miracles Hollywood Walk of Fame induction,and Stevie Wonder was one of the featured speakers. He said, and I quote: "Without The Miracles, there would have been no Stevie Wonder".
As for Marvin , his 1st two million-selling records,I'LL BE DOGGONE, and "AINT THAT PECULIAR",were written by ROBINSON, ROGERS, MOORE, WHITE, and TARPLIN.
3 guesses who THEY are.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 06.3.09 @ 08:10am


I don't understand why The Miracles weren't inducted with Smokey Robinson

Posted by Keebord on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 21:59pm


Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 06.8.09 @ 19:59pm


Nobody does. I can't believe they still haven't corrected their mistake. It's like inducting Diana Ross, but not The Supremes.

Posted by The_Claw on Thursday, 09.25.08 @ 02:36am

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 06.8.09 @ 20:04pm


It's like how they inducted Paul McCartney but not Wings. They're emphasizing the frontman.

Posted by on Tuesday, 02.24.09 @ 17:07pm

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 06.8.09 @ 20:06pm


The Miracles should've gone in with Robinson.

Carole King's career should garner her another induction, and Neil Sedaka also merits induction.

Posted by Steve Z on Monday, 06.1.09 @ 23:21pm

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 06.8.09 @ 20:48pm


Speaking of "emphasizing the frontman", maybe someone can tell me why OTHER MOTOWN GROUPS, where the lead singer's name was "out front" weren't ALSO victims of this prejudicial treatment. The RRHOF inducted: Gladys Knight AND The Pips (not Gladys alone). Martha Reeves AND The Vandellas (not Martha alone), and Diana Ross AND The Supremes (not Diana alone ). So... WHY DID THEY DO IT TO THE MIRACLES ???

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 06.9.09 @ 21:06pm


Bill G., we all know that the Miracles should have been inducted with Smokey. It is getting very old you repeating that all the time, it does no good telling all of us this, maybe you should try and contact someone who can help get them inducted instead of bringing it up here every few days.

Posted by Brian on Tuesday, 06.9.09 @ 22:11pm


I was responding to a comment posted on Monday from an unknown poster, Here's the quote:


"It's like how they inducted Paul McCartney but not Wings. They're emphasizing the frontman."

Posted by on Tuesday, 02.24.09 @ 17:07pm

Also , since my last posts , prior to this past week ,were back in March,I don't think that qualifies as "every few days". I was merely responding to recent posts I saw on the subject that were posted by Steve Z, The Claw, Dameon, and Philip.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 06.10.09 @ 07:49am


.....Or. do you think that the recent posts of il.com and otillatroya to this site are a little more relevant...?

Posted by Bill G . on Wednesday, 06.10.09 @ 08:00am


Keebord....Thanks for the nod to The Miracles. I hope they get in . I think , however , that given their historical importance as Motown's first group, not to mention their many accomplishments in the industry, they should go in as MAIN PERFORMERS, not sidemen. Remember, Smokey Robinson was a member of this group, and , for many years, they were collectively known as "The Miracles.... not "Smokey Robinson" and The Miracles...and Smokey was included as a member of the group. On their 2006 R.I.A.A Certified Gold Motown DVD :Smokey Robinson & The Miracles: The Definitive Performances, Miracles members Bobby Rogers, Smokey Robinson, and Pete Moore were interviewed. They explained that the only reason why Motown head Berry Gordy changed their name to spotlight Smokey was to boost the group's earnings for live performance fees. But , Smokey made it clear , that he NEVER made any more or less than the other Miracles. ALL of them made an EQUAL SHARE for concerts and record royalties...something that would have NEVER happened if the other Miracles were "only sidemen" .They were all members of the ONE GROUP...and Smokey was JUST A MEMBER...just like all of the others.

Posted by Bill G, on Tuesday, 07.7.09 @ 20:09pm


I'm aware of that Bill G, but I reasoned that if they most likely would get in it would be as sidemen. Don't get me wrong however, I'd much rather see them get in as performers than sidemen.

Posted by Keebord on Tuesday, 07.7.09 @ 20:14pm


Makes you wonder how Smokey would've sounded WITHOUT the Miracles or if those hits would've been as big. For the most part, I'm not that fond of his "solo" efforts...

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 07.7.09 @ 20:15pm


I think the Crickets might get in as sidemen (see Scotty, Bill, & D.J.) as a consolation prize...I don't know that they'd accept it, though.

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 07.7.09 @ 20:18pm


It would be kind of weird if all of the other Motown artists (Supremes, Gladys & The Pips,Vandellas, Temptations,J-5, Marvin, Stevie,etc got in as performers, but the ONE Motown act that opened the doors for all of the others got in as "sidemen". Especially since Smokey DIDN'T EVEN QUALIFY to be inducted as a solo atrist in 1987 when he was inducted.
Also , The Crickets and The Midnighters were both originally known by their collective names before Buddy Holly's and Hank Ballard's names were put "out front" of their respective groups. The lead singers got inducted...the groups didn't.(just like The Miracles) On the other hand , I'm not too sure about The Comets. Was Bill Haley's originally out front ? Does anybody know ?

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.8.09 @ 00:27am


When Smokey stopped writing with the other Miracles, Bobby, Ronnie , Pete , and Marv,(Claudette did not write songs), the hits weren't as big and the songs weren't as good...Without Smokey, The Miracles had 9 charting singles , 2 of which went Gold , and 1 Platinum (the #1 smash, "Love Machine" )...and 1 Platinum Album , "City Of Angels" (all the songs of which were written by Miracles Pete Moore and Billy Griffin), as a solo artist,Smokey hasn't had a #1 hit OR a Platinum Album as a solo artist...but The Miracles have had BOTH. So much for the lie that The Miracles could do nothing without him.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.8.09 @ 12:22pm


The Miracles are long, long, long, overdue induction. It's an embarassment on behalf of the RRHOF and their nomination and voting committee. I hope the original Miracles (Claudette, Smokey, Bobby, & Pete) will live to receive this honor that they truly deserve. Original member Ron White is deceased. For some of us Miracles Motown fans the honor will be bitter sweet as its taken too long, and too little acceptable reason of why not, to wait for what? An induction from a questionable orgranization? That's my personal opinion. INDUCT THE MIRACLES!!! Finally!

Posted by C. Green on Friday, 07.24.09 @ 20:05pm


Original Miracles member MARV TARPLIN should also be inducted. The HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME ignored him when the other original Miracles were honored. The Miracles , Berry Gordy, and Motown / Miracles fans were not happy with this decision, so they just went ahead and brought him up on stage with the rest of the group anyway. You can see the photo here...
http://www.varley.net/images%20-%202007/Gloria%20White,%20Marvin%20Tarplin,%20Bobby%20Rogers,%20Stevie%20Wonder,%20Claudette%20Rogers,%20Smokey%20Robinson,%20Billy%20Griffin,%20Berry%20Gordy.jpg . he's standing just to the right of the Supremes' Mary Wilson.Marv played on virtually ALL of their hits, and CO-WROTE MANY OF THEM!!

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.25.09 @ 00:48am


Marv was mentioned on the liner notes of the group's very first album, HI....WE'RE THE MIRACLES... and was listed as an original group member. He was also on the covers of their next 3 albums...COOKIN' WITH THE MIRACLES,I'LL TRY SOMETHING NEW, and THE FABULOUS MIRACLES (long before Smokey's name was put in front of the group.) The covers of all of these albums can be viewed in Wikipedia under their respective titles.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.25.09 @ 00:55am


The MIRACLES have won just about EVERY MAJOR MUSIC INDUSTRY AWARD there is...EXCEPT RRHOF induction. Don't believe it ? Check these stats:

1) Motown's first group.

2)Motown's first million-selling act.

3)Over 50 chart hits.

4) 4 songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME.

5) 3 songs in ROLLING STONE'S list of the "500 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIME".

6) One album in ROLLING STONE'S LIST OF "THE 500 GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME".

7) 3 SONGS in THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME'S OWN LIST of the "500 SONGS THAT HELPED SHAPE ROCK AND ROLL". (How can they honor the SONGS,BUT NOT THE GROUP THAT RECORDED THEM) ?

8) Every member except One (Claudette), winners of the prestigious BMI AWARD for SONGWRITING .

9) Inductees into the VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME.

10) Winners of THE RHYTHM and BLUES FOUNDATION'S PIONEER AWARD.

11) One song ,"The Tracks Of My Tears", chosen by the Record Industry Association Of America (RIAA) as # 127 in it's list of the " SONGS OF THE CENTURY- The 365 GREATEST SONGS OF THE 20TH CENTURY.

12)That same song (The Tracks Of My Tears) preserved by the UNITED STATES LIBRARY OF CONGRESS as an "culturally, historically and aesthetically significance" to the NATIONAL RECORDING REGISTRY.

13) Recieved a star on THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME on March 20th, 2009.

14) The ONLY MOTOWN GROUP during the 1960's that WROTE AND PRODUCED THEIR OWN MATERIAL (ALL of the members , not just their lead singer.)

15) Between 1959 (when Motown was first formed) until 1964, THE LABEL'S ONLY CONSISTANT HITMAKING ACT .

16)"The Tracks Of My Tears"- was also chosen as one of the "Top 10 BEST SONGS OF ALL TIME" by a panel of 20 top industry songwriters and producers including Hal David,Paul McCartney, Brian Wilson, Jerry Leiber,and others as reported to Britain's "MOJO" music magazine.

17) More than 50 of their songs covered by literally HUNDREDS of other artists ...from many different musical genres... POP, ROCK, COUNTRY, REGGAE, MOR(EASY LISTENING), JAZZ ,as well as R&B/SOUL. THE MIRACLES ARE THE MOST COVERED MOTOWN GROUP OF ALL TIME !!

18) ALL MEMBERS..writers of hit songs by MARVIN GAYE, MARY WELLS, THE TEMPTATIONS, THE MARVELETTES, KIM WESTON, THE CONTOURS, BRENDA HOLLOWAY, THE FOUR TOPS, and many more....

20) ON VH-1'S LIST of the "100 GREATEST ARTISTS ON ALL TIME".

21) Inductees into THE DOO-WOP HALL OF FAME.

22) Chosen by ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE AS # 32 IN IT'S LIST OF "THE IMMORTALS: THE 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME (THE MIRACLES are the HIGHEST RANKING MOTOWN GROUP ON THEIR LIST... and the ONLY one ranked in the top 50....above THE SUPREMES, TEMPTATIONS,4 TOPS, VANDELLAS , AND PIPS.

23) gave a ROYAL COMMAND PERFORMANCE for none other than QUEEN ELIZABETH in 1968...

24) Winners of the AWARD OF MERIT from THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF COMPOSERS, AUTHORS, and PUBLISHERS (ASCAP) .

25) Winners of numerous Gold and Platinum Records.

26) Their 2006 Motown DVD collection, "Smokey Robinson & THE MIRACLES: THE DEFINITIVE PERFORMANCES" has been Certified Gold by the R.I.A.A. (Record Industry Association of America)

27)On BILLBOARD MAGAZINE'S list of 'THE 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME".

......And the RRHOF doesn't think THAT group is worthy of induction ???

THE MIRACLES are among THE BEST OF THE BEST. They were the groundbraking group that started THE ENTIRE MOTOWN PHENOMONON !!!

A fact that gives them even GREATER credibility, is , as mentioned before,that they wrote ALMOST ALL OF THEIR OWN MATERIAL, while the OTHER Motown groups DIDN'T.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.25.09 @ 01:34am


I know that some people are getting tired of my constantly mentioning The Miracles , and please understand,it is not my intention to annoy anyone. But I have a reason for doing so. Unlike many artists profiled on this site, TIME IS NOT ON THE MIRACLES' SIDE. They are approaching 70 years of age,and Ronnie White has already passed on. I would hate to see any more of them leave this Earth before they recieve this honor that, frankly , should have been bestowed on them DECADES AGO. Pete Moore, Bobby Rogers, Marv Tarplin, Claudette Robinson, Smokey Robinson, Ronnie White and Billy Griffin should be inducted. Now.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.25.09 @ 02:01am


JUST RELEASED
...In time for MOTOWN RECORDS' 50TH ANNIVERSARY: The MIRACLES' FIRST 5 ALBUMS have just been released as part of a special 50th anniversary 2 CD limited release entitled : "THE MIRACLES: DEPEND ON ME". Features "HI...WE'RE THE MIRACLES" (their first album), "COOKIN' WITH THE MIRACLES" ,"I'LL TRY SOMETHING NEW", "THE FABULOUS MIRACLES", and "THE MIRACLES: RECORDED LIVE ON STAGE". Features the ORIGINAL ALBUM COVER ARTWORK and LINER NOTES to ALL 5 albums....PLUS A 24 PAGE BOOKLET... with group historical info and new comments from SMOKEY ROBINSON and CLAUDETTE ROBINSON. Hear the beginnings of MOTOWN as seen through the music of it's FIRST GROUP and recording act. Available NOW on the MOTOWN SELECT website or on AMAZON.

Posted by Bill G . on Sunday, 08.16.09 @ 10:40am


One of the Best out of Motown I hope they get in...

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 08.16.09 @ 10:51am


Me too, mrxyz...and thanks again for posting.

Also, I'd like to invite anyone who still thinks that their name was always "Smokey Robinson and The Miracles" to get their brand new "DEPEND ON ME" 2 CD set,(on Motown Records), which features the ORIGINAL FRONT AND BACK COVERS of their FIRST FIVE albums from the early sixties...It will prove what I've always been saying: that the group's original name/billing was simply "THE MIRACLES". That is how they're listed in WIKIPEDIA....and that is what their star on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME says.That is ALSO the name under which they should've been inducted ...THEIR COLLECTIVE NAME... not just one individual in the group. Smokey should have been inducted in the NON-PERFORMER CATEGORY as a writer - producer... and then THE MIRACLES should have been inducted as a GROUP.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 08.25.09 @ 00:38am


I think that this just might be THE MIRACLES' year. (I HOPE so, anyway). Here's why I say that:

1) There's been a LOT of media attention surrounding the group in the wake of their receiving a star on THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME this past March.

2)There has ALSO been a lot of media attention surrounding MOTOWN RECORDS this year...as 2009 is the label's 50'th anniversary...and The MIRACLES were the label's first artists...and the first stars.
3) There's also been a lot of publicity surrounding their new 2-CD SET "THE MIRACLES:DEPEND ON ME"...which, interestingly, is the FIRST new release on this group in DECADES in which the group's ORIGINAL name/billing has been restored...being simply billed as "THE MIRACLES"...NOT "SMOKEY ROBINSON" and THE MIRACLES.And, all SIX original members are on the cover...including MARV TARPLIN and CLAUDETTE ROBINSON.

4)THE IMPERIALS and THE MIRACLES were good friends, and often toured together, and ANTHONY mentioned and acknowledged them on IMPERIALS' induction this year. That , and with SMOKEY being their inductor, once again cast media attention on the group.

5) A recent article that I just read on the group,posted just 3 days ago, which hinted that induction might be just around the corner . the article is on this site: http://www.blurt-online.com/features/view/438/

6) A new 50th Anniversary Motown exhibit at THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME'S MUSEUM ...just launched a short time ago.

....Of course,all of this could mean everything ...and it could mean nothing . I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.31.09 @ 07:50am


excerpt rom the "Blurt online" website article, "GONNA TAKE SOME MIRACLES" : dated August 28, 2009- written by Rick Allen:

"There is no more damning truth of the utter worthlessness of the "honor" of being in the so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame than that Smokey Robinson was not inducted until 1987 and the Miracles as a group not until the end of the first decade of the 21st century almost fifty years after "Shop Around" earned them and Motown Records their first certification for a million selling single." (end of quote).
...Does Rick know something that we don't? Are The Miracles FINALLY going in after 22 years of being ignored? (I'm sure they're starting to feel like Susan Lucci by now).

The complete article can be read at this site: http://www.blurt-online.com/features/view/438/


Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 09.7.09 @ 09:12am


Bill G...I truly do sympathize with what you're saying, but the fact of the matter remains that the induction should've been "Smokey Robinson & the Miracles"...period. Smokey's solo work was actually pretty lame, and if they're talking about his songwriting prowess, then he should've been inducted as a "non-performer". I don't know that the Miracles' work (which I'm very familiar with) without Smokey is strong enough to warrant induction...they deserved to be inducted with him...another induction that we'll label "just plain stupid".

The biggest disappointment is the fact that Smokey should never have stood for it...

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 09.7.09 @ 09:47am


Hi, Gitarzan !! Good to hear from you again. Yes, the way this whole thing was done was stupid, and made no sense. I think that all parties involved were wrong.

But, that said , I also think that ,based on the numerous comments made by the bloggers on this site,there is an inaccurate public perception about this group. They were NOT always called "Smokey Robinson and The Miracles"...simply "The Miracles"...and Robinson was included as a member of the group.People are still looking at the Miracles and Smokey as separate entities. They were not.Their accomplishments were synonymous. They even made the same money for record royalties and live concerts. NO WAY did The E Street Band make as much as Springsteen!!
Unlike what some have posted, there is no comparision between The Miracles and The E Street Band...because Bruce Springsteen did not start his career as a member of that group...The E Street Band didn't come until later.Nor was there ever a E Street Band album where Springsteen's name WASN'T put upfront.Smokey, however,DID start his career as a member of The Miracles. He was in the group from Day One.

Motown Records, after over four decades, has finally seen, and corrected the problem. The group's new 2009 5 album, 2 CD compilation," The Miracles: Depend On Me"(the early albums). finally restores the group's original name/billing....WITHOUT Robinson's name upfront...and all of the group's original members are on the cover...including Robinson. There has NEVER been an E Street Band album featuring Springsteen where his name WASN'T upfront.
There were PLENTY of Miracles albums featuring Smokey that DIDN'T feature his name upfront...5 of them are featured in this collection. Also,and please correct me if I'm wrong,but I don't ever recall an album or CD by The E Street Band apart from Bruce. The Miracles recorded 7 albums without Smokey...featuring Billy Griffin: Renaissance, Do It Baby, Dont-Cha Love It,The Power Of Music,Love Crazy,The Miracles,and Greatest Hits.They also recorded 9 charting singles.Two of those singles went Gold and 1 Platinum (the #1 hit "Love Machine"). Their "City Of Angels" album also went Platinum.They proved that they could have hits without Robinson. The E Street Band never had any hits without Springsteen. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 09.7.09 @ 11:11am


Hey, Bill...I definitely agree with you. It's kinda like when David Ruffin was pushing for the Temptations being renamed "David Ruffin & the Temptations". The Miracles should've remained as such...just like the Temps.

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 09.7.09 @ 11:26am


Exactly. Usually, this sort of thing happens when original members of a group leave. The lead singer gets top billing. The Four Seasons, The Animals, and The Supremes are all examples of this.But, it never should have happened to The Miracles simply because , as a fellow blogger recently stated to me on the Amazon website, NONE OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS HAD LEFT. It was also the Robinsons,(Smokey & Claudette),her cousin Bobby Rogers,Pete Moore, Ronnie White, and Marv Tarplin. This "putting Smokey's name upfront" thing may be the biggest single reason why he got inducted...alone..but , it DOESN'T explain why other Motown groups, like Gladys & The Pips, and Martha & The Vandellas...not to mention non Motown acts , like Elvis Costello & The Attractions got inducted collectively.There is clearly a hidden issue here.
If indeed, there had been problems between the Miracles members in the past, they are appearently solved now. They were together on The Miracles' DVD, and when the group got their star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame this past March. This is Motown Records' 50th Anniversary year.It would be great if the label's first and most inportant act got an RRHOF nomination and induction. Maybe it will even result in a Miracles' reunion tour...something fans have hoping to happen for 37 years.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 09.7.09 @ 12:21pm


This is Motown Records' 50th Anniversary.(1959-2009). The RRHOF HAS to acknowledge that in some form or fashion. They have set up an entire "Motown 50" commerative exhibit at the Hall recently. Someone from the legendary label HAS to go in this year. The RRHOF is also highly political. They pay close attention to awards recently given by others. If anyone from Motown is inducted, it will HAVE to be an artist or group from the label's classic 60's golden era...which rules out later Motown artists such as RICK JAMES, THE COMMODORES, OR LIONEL RICHIE (solo). that leaves MARY WELLS, JR WALKER & THE ALL-STARS (the original hit line-up, Jr Walker, Willie Woods, James Graves and Vic Thomas),THE MARVELETTES,(Wanda, Gladys, Katherine,Georganna,and Wyanetta,(Juanita?)), or THE MIRACLES (collectively, which would mean, again , the original line-up, Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White, Pete Moore,Claudette Robinson, Marv Tarplin,and a second induction for Smokey, this time as part of the group, and possibly also Billy Griffin).Out of all of these,THE MIRACLES,in my opinion, would be the most likely to be inducted. They just got a star on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME barely 6 mo ago, and they were the label's first,and most important act. Plus , SMOKEY just inducted THE IMPERIALS this year,and , with their acceptance speech,they acknowledged The Miracles. I could be wrong, But I think that if ANYONE from Motown is inducted...it's going to be THE MIRACLES.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 09.7.09 @ 19:57pm


OK, so...the RRHOF now has a really cool Motown 50 exhibit. That's nice. and , they've put BOBBY ROGERS' SUIT in the Hall of Fame...HIS SUIT. Well, WHOOP-DE-DOO!! They're willing to put The Miracles' CLOTHES in the Hall Of Fame....BUT NOT THEM !!! What an insult .

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 01.4.10 @ 11:49am


From "The Village Voice" Friday, Oct. 30 2009

"Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 25th Anniversary Celebration"
Madison Square Garden
Thursday, October 29

Article by By Kory Grow

Meanwhile, soul legend Smokey Robinson, who sang "Tracks of My Tears" with Wonder, expresses remorse that his band, the Miracles, aren't members. None of the musicians take the Rock Hall lightly--except David Crosby, who compares it to the way his cinematographer father used his Oscar as a doorstop.

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 01.30.10 @ 20:59pm


Will Smokey Robinson be included as an inductee when the Miracles are inducted? They better not do something stupid like induct them in the sidemen category without Robinson!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.31.10 @ 02:03am


...Let's hope that The MIRACLES even GET INDUCTED. The Hall has BLACKLISTED and IGNORED THEM FOR 22 YEARS !!! All one has to do is click on their Wikipedia link and read their site to see that their accomplishments as a GROUP exceed many artists and groups that HAVE been inducted !!! Smokey and Bobby will be 70 years old next month. Claudette is just a couple of years younger, and Marv Tarplin will be 69. Pete Moore will soon be 71... Billy Griffin is almost 60 and Ronnie White has already left us. People all over the web and all around the world have been pondering this question..."HOW MUCH LONGER DO THE MIRACLES HAVE TO WAIT ?"

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 01.31.10 @ 22:00pm


What is the explanation from the Rock Hall for not inducting Smokey Robinson and the Miracles as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles? Did Smokey Robinson record albums as Smokey Robinson before he recorded albums as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles?

The Supremes, The Temptations, The Four Tops, and Gladys Knight and The Pips were all inducted. Why are The Miracles being treated like Wings, The Silver Bullet Band, The E Street Band and The Revolution?

Posted by Roy

I think you have to ask Smokey this question? Just like you have to ask Bruce why the E. Street band wasn't inducted.

Posted by Dameon

Smokey NEVER recorded a SINGLE SONG as a solo artist prior to 1972. All of his 50's ,'60's ,and early '70's recordings were as a member of THE MIRACLES. In fact,the group WAS NOT originally known as "Smokey Robinson" & The Miracles. They originally were known simply as "THE MIRACLES" for the first 10 years of their existance. According to the group's 2006 MOTOWN DVD release: "SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES: THE DEFINITIVE PERFORMANCES", the only reason for the name change, was because it was a marketing move on the part of MOTOWN RECORDS head, BERRY GORDY JR, to expand the group's fan base . According to MIRACLES members SMOKEY ROBINSON, BOBBY ROGERS, and PETE MOORE,(who were all interviewed on the DVD), MOTOWN'S market research revealed that whenever a lead singer's name was put in front of a group's name , the group made more money for performance fees because the public was able to connect with that lead singer.This is the same reason why THE SUPREMES' name was changed to "DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES" . and MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS' name was changed to MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS. SMOKEY also made it clear that,despite the name change,ALL of THE MIRACLES continued to make AN EQUAL SHARE for concerts and record royalties. SMOKEY didn't make any more or less money than the other MIRACLES . In fact, he didn't need to . HE WAS THE VICE-PRESIDENT OF MOTOWN RECORDS, and ALREADY MADE AN EXECUTIVE'S SALARY. So,he didn't need it.

Posted by Bill G.

That still doesn't explain why they were not inducted. When the Miracles get inducted, will they be inducted as main performers or in the sidemen category? Will Smokey be inducted a second time?

Posted by Roy

They should, and will, be MAIN PERFORMERS.They were MOTOWN'S FIRST GROUP. That makes them historically important . THE MIRACLES, in fact , are the single MOST IMPORTANT GROUP ON THE MOTOWN LABEL.They had the label's FIRST MILLION- SELLING RECORD, OVER 50 CHART HITS and have 4 SONGS IN THE GRAMMY HALL OF FAME. Smokey didn't do this all by himself. If inducted , SMOKEY WILL THEN BE A DOUBLE INDUCTEE,just as CURTIS MAYFIELD (inducted solo , and as a member of THE IMPRESSIONS ), MICHAEL JACKSON (inducted solo, and as a member of the JACKSON FIVE) , and ERIC CLAPTON, (INDUCTED 3 TIMES , SOLO, With CREAM, AND WITH DEREK & THE DOMIMOS). THE MIRACLES as a GROUP ,are scheduled to get a STAR on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME in early 2009.

Posted by Bill G

To answer your other question,Roy,the only reason , or reasons, that THE MIRACLES haven't yet been inducted can ONLY be attributed to TWO THINGS .... STUPIDITY AND POLITICS !!! There is NO WAY that a group with their credentials, level of influence, and historical importance (they were THE BEGINNING OF THE ENTIRE MOTOWN PHENONOMON,not to mention their over 50 chart hits)can be TOTALLY IGNORED YEAR AFTER YEAR, FOR TWO DECADES,while 80's RAPPERS, MTV STARS, and ONE-HIT WONDERS CONTINUE TO BE INDUCTED YEAR AFTER YEAR) can be blamed on ANYTHING ELSE !!

Posted by Bill G

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.14.10 @ 05:27am


Two of The MIRACLES turned 70 years old yesterday, Smokey Robinson and Bobby Rogers. let's hope The Miracles don't get inducted into the RRHOF posthumously.

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 02.20.10 @ 14:31pm


The Supremes, The Temptations, The Four Tops, and Gladys Knight and The Pips were all inducted. Why are The Miracles being treated like Wings, The Silver Bullet Band, The E Street Band and The Revolution, and not being treated like the Pips?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 09:02am




The Supremes, The Temptations, The Four Tops, and Gladys Knight and The Pips were all inducted. Why are The Miracles being treated like Wings,s?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 09:02am


Since they are all the same band in many ways they should be..IN LOL

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 09:07am


1961 - The first year The Miracles charted a single as The Miracles

1963 - The first year The Miracles charted an album as The Miracles

1967 - The first year the group charted as Smokey Robinson & the Miracles on both the albums and singles charts. 1967-1987 - That's only 20 years, not 25 years!!

1973 - The first year Smokey Robinson charted on both the singles and albums charts as a solo artist, and he was inducted in 1986. That's 13 years, not 25 years!!

It is still not clear if a Miracles induction will be in the main performers category and include Smokey Robinson, which would make the Rock Hall look stupid for not inducting them as the Miracles in the first place in 1987, or if the Miracles will be inducted without Smokey Robinson in either the main performers category or the sidemen category, which would look stupid as well!!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 09:32am


The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame's blacklisting of The Miracles is one of the greatest (of many) acts of unfair treatment that organization has ever committed . Not inducting the group, INTACT , back in 1987, has sent shockwaves among Motown fans , and music lovers in general,around the world, and even Smokey has protested their decision. using his time in the Miracles to count for his 25 year qualification/induction into the RRHOF,as a solo artist, while discarding the other original Miracles, BOBBY ROGERS, PETE MOORE , CLAUDETTE ROGERS ROBINSON, MARV TARPLIN, and the late RONNIE WHITE, and the group's first and most important replacement member, BILLY GRIFFIN , is a black mark on this organization and an issue that is NOT GOING TO GO AWAY until this influential and universally- loved group GETS INDUCTED. The Miracles have accomplished TOO MUCH in their career, set TOO MANY MILESTONES,and given us TOO MANY great songs ...(many of which have taken on the stature of classics), to simply be ignored and relegated to the footnotes of history, while dozens of less-deserving artists continue to be nominated and inducted year after year. Roy is correct.Since Smokey didn't release his first solo recording until 1973,1998 would have been the FIRST year he would have qualified as a performer. Only in the NON-PERFORMER category , as a writer/ producer/ record executive , would he have qualified to have been inducted sooner. Motown founder and first president , BERRY GORDY JR, said ,at the group's Hollywood Walk of Fame Induction ceremony on 3/20/2009, "WITHOUT THE MIRACLES, MOTOWN WOULD NOT BE THE MOTOWN IT IS TODAY".

Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 13:27pm


THE MIRACLES as a GROUP, qualified in the very first year of RRHOF inductions... but NOT Smokey as a solo artist. All of the other major Motown groups that have been inducted, were inducted INTACT. Gladys Knight & The Pips, Martha & The Vandellas, The Supremes, The Temptations, The Four Tops , and The Jackson Five. But,it was THE MIRACLES that opened the doors and paved the way for ALL of these groups , and ALL OTHER Motown acts that followed them. They were the Motown label's first recording artists,the first stars, and the label's first singer-songwriters, and without the money their hit records recorded from the label's founding in 1959 until 1964 generated, the label would not have SURVIVED for Gordy to discover , sign, and develop the many acts that followed them .

The Miracles also have the distinction of having more GRAMMY HALL OF FAME-inducted songs than ANY other Motown group, and are BY FAR, the MOST - COVERED Motown group of all time.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 13:44pm


Bill G...it's just a hunch, but I think Smokey himself had an awful lot to do with getting inducted on his own...his solo career really doesn't warrant it. I think he'd like everyone to believe he WAS the Miracles. With that way of thinking, I don't think they can get in by themselves. I think it would've been just as much of a travesty if Littl Anthony would've been inducted without the Imperials...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 13:49pm


1961 - The first year The Miracles charted a single as The Miracles.

posted by Roy.


Actually, Roy, 1961 was the year of The Miracles' first million-seller, "Shop Around" . But their first national charting single on the Bilboard Pop Hot 100 was in 1959 , with "Bad Girl". They charted on the R&B charts even before that , in 1957 with "Got A Job",among others.

Bill G...it's just a hunch, but I think Smokey himself had an awful lot to do with getting inducted on his own...his solo career really doesn't warrant it. I think he'd like everyone to believe he WAS the Miracles. With that way of thinking, I don't think they can get in by themselves. I think it would've been just as much of a travesty if Littl Anthony would've been inducted without the Imperials...


Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 02.28.10 @ 13:49pm

I sincerely hope that's not true, Gitarzan, because if it is , then The Miracles would have no chance of ever making it in. I would like to think that they have a chance to get in one day soon.

Since the RRHOF has had a history of having done this to other groups as well, I'd like to think it's their fault ...but on the other hand, Smokey may or may not know more than he's telling.


The RRHOF HAS , SO FAR. INDUCTED :

SMOKEY ROBINSON without THE MIRACLES
BILL HALEY without THE COMETS
BUDDY HOLLY without THE CRICKETS
HANK BALLARD without THE MIDNIGHTERS
BOBBY WOMACK without THE VALENTINOS
JAMES BROWN without THE FAMOUS FLAMES
DION DiMUCCI without THE BELMONTS
BRUCE SPRINGSTTEN without THE E STREET BAND

So, Gitarzan ,as you can see, the RRHOF has shown a pattern of inducting lead singers of groups in the past, while ignoring the groups that made them famous. They later changed this stupid policy, but never went back and retroactively inducted there earlier groups .
Stupid? incredibly so. Will they make it right ?

Who knows .

Posted by Bill G . on Monday, 03.1.10 @ 00:18am


Ok, Bill.... Bobby without the Valentinos? Seriously? That's like complaining about Linda Ronstadt being inducted without the Stone Poneys (if she ever gets inducted)... the Valentinos as a group don't merit it.

The Belmonts... really you could leave or take... both incarnations had an equal number of BIG NAME songs that are well remembered, but solo Dion also had a lot more minor hits, plus his solo career was more pronouncedly different than the Belmonts, who were a relatively late-arriving doo-wop group with little that distinguished them.

Famous Flames... probably more deserving as Side-Men... same as the JB's.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 03.1.10 @ 16:21pm


They inducted Bob Marley, but not The Wailers.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 03.2.10 @ 03:59am


I think what The Claw meant to say is that they didn't induct The Wailers but they DID induct Bob Marley

Posted by Joker on Tuesday, 03.2.10 @ 17:52pm


The difference between the Miracles and all those other groups is that the Miracles started out as the Miracles and it lasted for almost 10 years!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.3.10 @ 02:33am


Thanks, Roy! I,ve been trying to TELL people that all along .

If anyone doesn't believe it, Please pick up the group's new 2-CD SET: THE MIRACLES: DEPEND ON ME

This 50th Anniversary collection has The MIRACLES' first 5 albums..with a foldout containing THE FRONT AND REAR COVERS OF ALL 5 ALBUMS... and you'll SEE what Roy and I have been saying is true: The group was originally billed as THE MIRACLES... not "SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES....and you'll hear some great Early Motown music besides!!!
I also urge everyone that has been voting against The Miracles...or are just unfamiliar with the group,to pick their Motown DVD "SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES: THE DEFINITIVE PERFORMANCES" (available on AMAZON, the HIP-O SELECT website , and elsewhere) You'll be able to see a fascinating 70 minute interview with Miracles PETE MOORE, SMOKEY ROBINSON, and BOBBY ROGERS...where they discuss the beginnings of Motown (The Miracles were Motown's first recording act) , histories behind their greatest hits ...and the reason for the NAME CHANGE( it's not the reason that you think).
(This DVD has been awarded Certified Gold status by the RIAA).
Smokey mentions that ,even with the name change, he NEVER made any more or less than the other Miracles. All of the group's members made an EQUAL SHARE for concerts and record royalities. A fascinating video account

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.3.10 @ 10:39am


Also, of ALL of these groups listed, THE MIRACLES had ,BY FAR, the LONGEST CHART RUN. They charted on the BILLBOARD HOT 100 for 19 CONSECUTIVE YEARS !!! 1959-1978. None of these other acts even COME CLOSE!!
And they charted on the BILLBOARD R&B CHARTS even BEFORE that...as early as 1957, with "Got A Job"....which means they had a 21 year Billboard R&B chart run .
The more you learn about this group,the more you realise just how STUPID their omission from the RRHOF is !!! Politics or no....THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN KEPT OUT !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.3.10 @ 10:56am


A wonderful band of artist They should have already been in

Posted by L-7 on Wednesday, 03.3.10 @ 10:59am


The Miracles

Smokey Robinson
Donald Griffin
Bill Griffin
Claudette Rogers
Bobby Rogers
Emerson Rogers
Ronald White
Clarence Dawson
James Grice

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.3.10 @ 16:29pm


The Miracles

Smokey Robinson
Warren "Pete" Moore
Donald Griffin
Bill Griffin
Claudette Rogers
Bobby Rogers
Emerson Rogers
Ronald White
Clarence Dawson
James Grice

Which members will be inducted?

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.3.10 @ 16:35pm


Grice, Dawson , and Emerson left the group early on, when they were still known as THE MATADORS. When they offically became known as THE MIRACLES, on their first album, Motown Records listed the original members as : WILLIAM "SMOKEY" ROBINSON
CLAUDETTE ROGERS ROBINSON
WARREN "PETE" MOORE
RONALD "RONNIE" WHITE
ROBERT "BOBBY" ROGERS
and MARVIN "MARV" TARPLIN.

also the group's most important replacement,
WILLIAM "BILLY" GRIFFIN'
who took Smokey's place in 1972,and recorded 7 albums with the group, including their biggest album ever, the Platinum "CITY OF ANGELS" LP,and their biggest single ever, the multi- million seller, "LOVE MACHINE". These are most likely , the members that will be inducted...(if it ever happens).

Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 03.3.10 @ 18:55pm


MARVIN TARPLIN IS NOT LISTED AS A MEMBER ON ALL MUSIC GUIDE, THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED, BUT HE IS MENTIONED IN THE BIO I THINK.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 02:21am


The Miracles

Smokey Robinson
Warren "Pete" Moore
Donald Griffin
Bill Griffin
Claudette Rogers
Bobby Rogers
Emerson Rogers
Ronald White
Clarence Dawson
James Grice
Marvin Tarplin

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 04:44am


Yes , Roy. Marv Tarplin is definately an original member of THE MIRACLES. His contributions to the group were monumental.

I dont see that the RRHOF would consider Clarence Dawson
James Grice or Claudette's brother
Emerson Rogers, as they were only with the group a short time , and weren't present on any of the group's hits. They weren't even known as the Miracles back then .

Posted by Bill G on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 16:12pm


http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gpfoxqe5ldae

Any idea why Marv Tarplin is not mentioned at all on the Miracles All Music Guide page?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 16:22pm


Dont know. He's listed everywhere ELSE....including Motown Records offical liner notes on the Miracles' albums. Has his own site in Wikipedia , too. You can find it under his own name... and on their site " The Miracles members".

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 03.4.10 @ 23:52pm


Gassman- the Miracles are not inducted. Smokey was inducted alone.

Posted by Bill G on Friday, 03.26.10 @ 07:33am


Yeah I know, I just figured I put the two together

Posted by Gassman on Friday, 03.26.10 @ 11:07am


A lot of people simply don't realise that, between the beginning of Motown Records in 1959, until 1964, THE MIRACLES W E R E MOTOWN.

Nobody else on the label had any hits ... or they simply weren't signed to the label yet.

Where do you think that Berry Gordy got the money to sign,develop, and promote all of the other acts on the label ? Without The Miracles,it just wouldn't have happened . Their hits literally kept the label ALIVE during those critical early years.
Nobody had even HEARD of The Supremes, Temptations , or 4 Tops prior to 1964...but EVERYBODY had heard of The MIRACLES !!

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 04.10.10 @ 11:07am


This is crap too! along with not inducting Connie Francis, The "great hall" has bypassed The Miracles. The Miracles are one of the greatest groups of all time and Smokey Robinson's vocal and compositional skills are still unbeatable! The fact that they aren't in the hall of fame, But Jimmy Cliff is blows my mind! This hall is nothing but a piece of shit!

Posted by Batiste on Thursday, 04.29.10 @ 01:27am


Smokey's "vocal and compositional skills" are inducted. Only without The Miracles.

Posted by The_Claw on Thursday, 04.29.10 @ 01:40am


Every thing that The Miracles ever did, they did TOGETHER. Smokey didn't write all of those hits by himself. They wrote together, recorded together , performed together, the whole 9 yards. They should have been INDUCTED together . All of The other major Motown groups were inducted intact . The MIRACLES should have been as well.
Smokey should have been inducted in the NON- PERFORMER CATEGORY as a writer /producer/record executive ...and them THE MIRACLES SHOULD HAVE GONE IN AS A GROUP.

The Miracles also proved they could write hits apart from Robinson. The City of Angels album and it's hit single , LOVE MACHINE, both went PLATINUM. Smokey was nowhere around when THOSE were written.
The Miracles had 9 charting singles and several hit albums without Robinson. They would probably have had even MORE , if not for corporate politics within Motown . ( read "Lack of Promotion), which is probably why they eventually left the label for Columbia in the late 70s.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 05.7.10 @ 13:30pm


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame biography

Smokey Robinson (vocals; born February 19, 1940)

Save for founder Berry Gordy, no single figure has been more closely allied with the Detroit-based recording empire known as Motown than William “Smokey” Robinson. In addition to leading the Miracles, Robinson served as a Motown producer, songwriter, talent scout and Gordy’s most trusted confidant and right-hand man.

”He reminded me of me - so excited and passionate about his music,” Gordy wrote in his autobiography, To Be Loved. Robinson’s Miracles were the second act signed to Gordy’s management and production company. Everything at Motown was a family affair in those days. The Supremes (first known as the Primettes) wound up auditioning at Motown because Diana Ross was a neighbor of Robinson’s, and Primettes guitarist Marv Tarplin became an accompanist, arranger and cowriter in the Miracles.

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles scored twenty-seven pop-soul hits at Motown between 1960 and 1971, including the classics “You’ve Really Got a Hold on Me,” “Mickey’s Monkey,” “Going to a Go-Go” and “I Second That Emotion.” They also explored the sweeter side of soul with a string of exquisite ballads sung by Robinson in a satiny falsetto. The Miracles’ brightest moments on record - “Ooh Baby Baby,” “The Tracks of My Tears” and “The Tears of a Clown” foremost among them - still kindle memories for those who came of age in the Sixties.

The Miracles began as the Matadors, a five-member harmony group who sang original songs by the prolific, teenaged Robinson. Their lineup included Robinson, Ronnie White, Warren Moore, and siblings Bobby and Claudette Rogers. The Matadors charmed Gordy at an impromptu audition, and the renamed group’s first single ("Got a Job” b/w “My Mama Done Told Me") was released on Robinson’s eighteenth birthday in 1958. The Miracles’ first hit, “Shop Around,” established Gordy’s Tamla label on the national scene and paved the way for Motown’s family of labels and artists. “Shop Around,” which had a rawer, bluesier feel than much of the Miracles’ later work, sold a million copies in early 1961.

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles were founded upon devotion and constancy. The Miracles recorded on Tamla through 1976, and Robinson remained allied with Motown’s original imprint as a solo artist through the mid-Eighties. Robinson married Claudette Rogers in 1959, and their union lasted twenty-seven years. She withdrew from the Miracles’ touring lineup in 1965, leaving them a quartet, but continued to sing on every Miracles record until Robinson’s departure from the group in 1972.

Robinson’s words mingled sincerity and eloquence, often describing love with unique metaphors. Bob Dylan once pronounced him America’s “greatest living poet.” As a singer, Robinson could evoke joy, sadness and their bittersweet combination with his velvety high tenor. Legend has it that audience members would break into tears when Robinson and the Miracles sang “The Tracks of My Tears.” Even the notoriously hard-to-please Berry Gordy proclaimed the song a masterpiece. It also presaged another tear-streaked classic, “The Tears of a Clown,” which in 1970 became the Miracles’ first Number One pop hit. The period 1963 to 1966 found the group operating at a creative and commercial peak, including the release of their best album, the hit-filled Going to a Go-Go.

Excluding compilations, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles released fifteen albums for Motown,. On his own Robinson recorded sixteen albums for Tamla and Motown. He also wrote and produced for numerous other Motown artists, including Marvin Gaye ("Ain’t That Peculiar,” “I’ll Be Doggone"), the Temptations ("Get Ready,” “The Way You Do the Things You Do,” “My Girl"), Mary Wells ("My Guy,” “You Beat Me to the Punch") and the Marvelettes ("Don’t Mess With Bill,” “The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game").

In July 1972, Robinson parted ways with the Miracles, and both entities enjoyed continued success. Robinson’s biggest solo hits - “Cruisin’” (#4) and “Being With You” (#2) - came in the late Seventies and early Eighties. A fixture at Motown, he served as vice-president until the company’s sale to MCA in 1988. He remained with the label as an artist for two more years after that. In the late Eighties he beat an addiction to cocaine, documented in his autobiography In My Life. After Motown, Robinson continued to record, re-emerging on Motown in 1999 with Intimate. The born-again singer released his first gospel album, Food for the Spirit, in 2004.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 08:05am


He didn't write 'em or sing 'em alone...so he shouldn't have been inducted alone.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 16:11pm


*** RE-DIRECTED FROM THE "2011 PREDICTIONS" SITE:***

Also I don't think the Miracles will ever get their due either. An induction for the Miracles will garner little mainstream attention, press, and ticket sales, so the HOF isn't going to waste this potential to go back and correct a now 23 year old mistake. That's unfortunate but, it's the way it is. I wouldn't even be surprised if the HOF didn't try to induct the Miracles as sidemen, which would be a disgrace, but I feel the same about Wanda Jackson getting in as an Influence, when she clearly should've been in the Performers category."


"Bill G: I am impressed with your consistent advocation for inducting the rest of The Miracles into the RRHOF. Indeed, it does remind me of mine and others' advocacy for an induction for Peter Gabriel; an advocacy that is paying off, and continues to pay off. I will say, though, that if the rest of The Miracles were to be inducted, it already would have happened by now. I think that a 23 year gap between inducting Smokey Robinson, and then The Miracles, is a bit of a problem. As I mentioned before regarding Bruce Springsteen with respect to The E Street Band, it seems that a Miracles induction effectively (though not in actuality) took place when Robinson was inducted. It may not be correct, but there it is".

For those who don't think that The MIRACLES are a "name act", or that they've been forgotten by the public at large, consider this:

Here is a list of all of the "name acts" that ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE ranked BELOW The MIRACLES in it's list of "THE IMMORTALS: THE 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME (the Miracles are ranked at #32):(Don't take MY word for it...go to the 'IMMORTALS" page on this site and read it for YOURSELVES):



33.The Everly Brothers
34.Neil Young
35.Michael Jackson
36.Madonna
37.Roy Orbison
38.John Lennon
39.David Bowie
40.Simon and Garfunkel
41The Doors
42.Van Morrison
43.Sly and the Family Stone
44.Public Enemy (2012)
45.The Byrds
46.Janis Joplin
47.Patti Smith
48.Run-DMC
49.Elton John
50.The Band
51.Howlin' Wolf
52.The Allman Brothers Band
53.Eric Clapton (3 time RRHOF Inductee)
54.Dr. Dre (2017)
55.Grateful Dead
56.Parliament/Funkadelic
57.Aerosmith
58.Sex Pistols
59.Louis Jordan
60.Joni Mitchell
61.Tina Turner
62.Etta James
63.Phil Spector
64.The Kinks
65.Al Green
66.Cream
67.The Temptations
68.Jackie Wilson
69.Carl Perkins
70.The Police
71.Frank Zappa
72.AC/DC
73.Radiohead (2017)
74.Hank Williams
75.The Eagles
76.The Shirelles
77.Beastie Boys (2007)
78.The Stooges
79.The Four Tops
80.Elvis Costello
81.The Drifters
82.Eminem (2021)
83.N.W.A. (2012)
84.James Taylor
85.Black Sabbath
86.Tupac Shakur (2016)
87.Gram Parsons (1992)
88.Miles Davis
89.The Yardbirds
90.Carlos Santana
91.Ricky Nelson
92.Guns N' Roses (2011)
93.Booker T. and the MG's
94.Nine Inch Nails (2014)
95.Lynyrd Skynyrd
96.Martha and the Vandellas
97.Diana Ross and the Supremes
98.Roxy Music (1995)
99.Curtis Mayfield
100.Lee "Scratch" Perry (1994)

Almost ALL of the artists are ALREADY IN THE RRHOF. Why not the MIRACLES ??

Keep in mind , that this is the SAME Rolling Stone Magazine that has denied the MIRACLES entry into the RRHOF FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS !!!

The Miracles are ALSO on BILLBOARD MAGAZINE'S AND VH-1'S ALL- TIME TOP 100 ARTIST'S LISTS.

If the Miracles have been "forgotten" by the public at large, then WHY...
1. Did their 2006 "Definitive" DVD go CERTIFIED GOLD ?
2. Did they get a STAR on the Hollywood Walk of Fame ...20 years AFTER Smokey got his individual star?
3. Do they have FOUR SONGS in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME ... THE MOST OF ANY MOTOWN GROUP (yes, even more than The Supremes and Temptations.
4.Over 50 of their songs have been covered by hundreds of other acts ...IN VIRTUALLY EVERY musical genre...including JAZZ, COUNTRY & WESTERN, EASY LISTENING, POP, ACAPELLA,RAP/HIP HOP,ROCK,BLUEGRASS,REGGAE, R&B/SOUL, AND MORE

I don't know about YOU, but THE MIRACLES look like a HALL OF FAME worthy group to ME !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 08.13.10 @ 07:34am


****** 50TH ANNIVERSARY MIRACLES TRIBUTE******


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6rr0EXntiI

Many thanks to CLAUDETTE ROBINSON, SMOKEY ROBINSON,PETE MOORE, BOBBY ROGERS, MARV TARPLIN. and BILLY GRIFFIN for 50 YEARS OF GREAT MOTOWN MUSIC and MEMORIES ... from the Miraculous MIRACLES !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 08.14.10 @ 13:54pm


....AND R.I.P. to the late great RONNIE WHITE.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 08.14.10 @ 14:18pm


I guess when The Miracles get inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in the main performers category with Smokey Robinson, the Rock Hall can tell us that the induction of Smokey Robinson in 1987 was an early induction for his solo career. HA HA!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.18.10 @ 10:09am


THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME


THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BIOGRAPHY

Smokey Robinson (vocals; born February 19, 1940)

Save for founder Berry Gordy, no single figure has been more closely allied with the Detroit-based recording empire known as Motown than William "Smokey" Robinson. In addition to leading the Miracles, Robinson served as a Motown producer, songwriter, talent scout and Gordy's most trusted confidant and right-hand man.

"He reminded me of me - so excited and passionate about his music," Gordy wrote in his autobiography, To Be Loved. Robinson's Miracles were the second act signed to Gordy's management and production company. Everything at Motown was a family affair in those days. The Supremes (first known as the Primettes) wound up auditioning at Motown because Diana Ross was a neighbor of Robinson's, and Primettes guitarist Marv Tarplin became an accompanist, arranger and cowriter in the Miracles.

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles scored twenty-seven pop-soul hits at Motown between 1960 and 1971, including the classics "You've Really Got a Hold on Me," "Mickey's Monkey," "Going to a Go-Go" and "I Second That Emotion." They also explored the sweeter side of soul with a string of exquisite ballads sung by Robinson in a satiny falsetto. The Miracles' brightest moments on record - "Ooh Baby Baby," "The Tracks of My Tears" and "The Tears of a Clown" foremost among them - still kindle memories for those who came of age in the Sixties.

The Miracles began as the Matadors, a five-member harmony group who sang original songs by the prolific, teenaged Robinson. Their lineup included Robinson, Ronnie White, Warren Moore, and siblings Bobby and Claudette Rogers. The Matadors charmed Gordy at an impromptu audition, and the renamed group's first single ("Got a Job" b/w "My Mama Done Told Me") was released on Robinson's eighteenth birthday in 1958. The Miracles' first hit, "Shop Around," established Gordy's Tamla label on the national scene and paved the way for Motown's family of labels and artists. "Shop Around," which had a rawer, bluesier feel than much of the Miracles' later work, sold a million copies in early 1961.

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles were founded upon devotion and constancy. The Miracles recorded on Tamla through 1976, and Robinson remained allied with Motown's original imprint as a solo artist through the mid-Eighties. Robinson married Claudette Rogers in 1959, and their union lasted twenty-seven years. She withdrew from the Miracles' touring lineup in 1965, leaving them a quartet, but continued to sing on every Miracles record until Robinson's departure from the group in 1972.

Robinson's words mingled sincerity and eloquence, often describing love with unique metaphors. Bob Dylan once pronounced him America's "greatest living poet." As a singer, Robinson could evoke joy, sadness and their bittersweet combination with his velvety high tenor. Legend has it that audience members would break into tears when Robinson and the Miracles sang "The Tracks of My Tears." Even the notoriously hard-to-please Berry Gordy proclaimed the song a masterpiece. It also presaged another tear-streaked classic, "The Tears of a Clown," which in 1970 became the Miracles' first Number One pop hit. The period 1963 to 1966 found the group operating at a creative and commercial peak, including the release of their best album, the hit-filled Going to a Go-Go.

Excluding compilations, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles released fifteen albums for Motown,. On his own Robinson recorded sixteen albums for Tamla and Motown. He also wrote and produced for numerous other Motown artists, including Marvin Gaye ("Ain't That Peculiar," "I'll Be Doggone"), the Temptations ("Get Ready," "The Way You Do the Things You Do," "My Girl"), Mary Wells ("My Guy," "You Beat Me to the Punch") and the Marvelettes ("Don't Mess With Bill," "The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game").

In July 1972, Robinson parted ways with the Miracles, and both entities enjoyed continued success. Robinson's biggest solo hits - "Cruisin'" (#4) and "Being With You" (#2) - came in the late Seventies and early Eighties. A fixture at Motown, he served as vice-president until the company's sale to MCA in 1988. He remained with the label as an artist for two more years after that. In the late Eighties he beat an addiction to cocaine, documented in his autobiography In My Life. After Motown, Robinson continued to record, re-emerging on Motown in 1999 with Intimate. The born-again singer released his first gospel album, Food for the Spirit, in 2004.

TIMELINE

February 19, 1940: William "Smokey" Robinson is born in Detroit, Michigan.

1955: Smokey Robinson forms a group - first named the Matadors, then the Miracles - at Detroit's Northern High School.

February 19, 1958: "Got a Job," the first single by the Miracles, is released on the End label. Its release coincides with leader Smokey Robinson's eighteenth birthday.

November 7, 1959: Smokey Robinson marries fellow Miracle Claudette Robinson. The marriage will last twenty-seven years and yield two children, Berry and Tamla.

October 15, 1960: "Shop Around," credited to "The Miracles (featuring Bill "Smokey" Robinson)," is released. The first national hit for Berry Gordy's Tamla label, it tops the R&B chart for eight weeks.

June 16, 1961: Hi We're the Miracles, the first album by the Smokey Robinson-led group, is released.

November 2, 1962: The first live "Motortown Revue," featuring such Motown artists as the Miracles, opens in Boston.

December 29, 1962: "You've Really Got a Hold On Me," by the Miracles, enters R&B chart, where it will become the group's second Number One R&B hit.

March 6, 1965: "My Girl," written by Smokey Robinson and Ronnie White of the Miracles, becomes a #1 hit for the Temptations.

November 1, 1965: Going to a Go-Go, by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, is released. It reaches #8 and yields four hits: "Ooo Baby Baby" (#4 R&B, #16 pop), "The Tracks of My Tears" (#2 R&B, #16 pop), "My Girl Has Gone" (#3 R&B, #14 pop) and "Going to a Go-Go" (#2 R&B, #11 pop).

January 27, 1967: The release of "The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage" marks a change in artist credit from "The Miracles" to "Smokey Robinson and the Miracles." The song will peak at #20.

April 1968: Greatest Hits, Vol.2, by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, reaches #7. It will be the highest-peaking album of the group's career.

December 12, 1970: "The Tears of a Clown," by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, reaches Number One for the first of two weeks.

July 14-16, 1972: Smokey Robinson and the Miracles' concert performances in Washington D.C. are recorded for the album 1957-1972, which ends Robinson's quarter century with the band he founded. Robinson graduates to a solo career, and the Miracles replace him with Billy Griffin.

November 15, 1972: Smokey Robinson's final single with the Miracles, "I Can't Stand to See You Cry," is released.

1974: The Miracles' "Love Machine," the group's biggest hit of the post-Smokey Robinson era, reaches Number One.

April 19, 1975: A Quiet Storm, the third solo album by Smokey Robinson, is released. The title would be adapted as both the name of a radio format and a romantic subgenre of soul, as defined by Robinson.

March 21, 1981: The biggest hit of Smokey Robinson's solo career, "Being With You" (#1 R&B, #2 pop), is released.

January 21, 1987: Smokey Robinson is inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at the second annual induction dinner. Daryl Hall and John Oates are his presenters.

February 1994: Motown issues The 35th Anniversary Compilation, a four-CD overview of Smokey Robinson and the Miracles' remarkable career.

February 27, 1997: Smokey Robinson reunites with the Miracles to be honored at the eight annual Rhythm and Blues Foundation's Pioneer Awards in New York.

February 24, 1999: Smokey Robinson receives a Lifetime Achievement Award at the 41st annual Grammy Awards in Los Angeles.

April 2004: Smokey Robinson releases Food for the Spirit, his first gospel album and first album of any kind in five years.


THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME BIOGRAPHY

Legendary Grammy winner, Smokey Robinson is the only man in musical history to simultaneously be in the Songwriters Hall of Fame, the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame and honored by NARAS as a "Living Legend."

In many respects, Smokey Robinson, writer of over 1,000 songs, qualifies for the title, "Mr. Motown." The celebrated Detroit native played a key role in helping transform the motor city and the record company named after it, into an international center popular music.

Robinson's hit recordings, with his wonderful and memorable vocal group, The Miracles, while produced in Detroit with that very recognizable Motown sound, cross all contemporary boundaries and cultures. Motown was pop music, the kind that dominated best-selling and radio performance charts. For much of that period of the early 60s and 70s, Smokey Robinson was the inspiration for and creator of the biggest songs of the day.

Since the age of six, Robinson has been writing music. His initial success came as a first-grader writing a song for an elementary school play. With this one slight taste of success under his belt, Robinson continued writing, after the nightly demands of homework had been met, until three years later, as a teenager, he had the good fortune of an accidental meeting with Berry Gordy, Jr., the founder and head of Motown Records. Gordy became the producer for Smokey Robinson and The Miracles, and the combination of talents resulted in many hit recordings, including "Way Over There," the first record released on the Motown subsidiary label, Tamla Records, and "Shop Around," which went to number one on all national charts.

Across the years, Robinson's writing efforts resulted in a bevy of major hits for The Miracles, like "I Second That Emotion," "Going to a Go Go," "You Really Got a Hold on Me," "Tears of a Clown," and one of the most memorable, "The Tracks of My Tears."

But writing for The Miracles ultimately became a kind of springboard for other songwriting successes. Robinson is well-remembered for "My Guy" and "Two Lovers" for Mary Wells; "The Way You Do the Things You Do," for the remarkable and enduring Temptations; "Ain't That Peculiar" and I'll Be Doggone," for the late Marvin Gaye; and "Don't Mess with Bill" and "The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game," for The Marvelettes.


THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME BIOGRAPHY

Of all the R&B vocal groups formed in Detroit, Michigan, USA, in the mid-50s, the Miracles proved to be the most successful. They were founded at the city's Northern High School in 1955 by Smokey Robinson (b. William Robinson, 19 February 1940, Detroit, Michigan, USA), Emerson Rogers, Bobby Rogers (b. 19 February 1940, Detroit, Michigan, USA), Ronnie White (b. 5 April 1939, Detroit, Michigan, USA, d. 26 August 1995) and Warren 'Pete' Moore (b. 19 November 1939, Detroit, Michigan, USA). Emerson Rogers left the following year, and was replaced by his sister Claudette, who married Smokey Robinson in 1959. Known initially as the Matadors, the group became the Miracles in 1958, when they made their initial recordings with producer Berry Gordy. He leased their debut, 'Got A Job' (an answer record to the Silhouettes' major hit 'Get A Job'), to End Records, produced a duet by Ron (White) And Bill (Robinson) for Argo, and licensed the classic doo-wop novelty 'Bad Girl' to Chess Records in 1959.

The following year, Gordy signed the Miracles directly to his fledgling Motown Records label. Recognizing the youthful composing talents of Smokey Robinson, he allowed the group virtual free rein in the studio, and was repaid when they issued 'Way Over There', a substantial local hit, and then 'Shop Around', which broke both the Miracles and Motown to a national audience. The song demonstrated the increasing sophistication of Robinson's writing, which provided an unbroken series of hits for the group over the next few years. Their raw, doo-wop sound was further refined on the Top 10 hit 'You Really Got A Hold On Me' in 1962, a soulful ballad that became a worldwide standard after the Beatles covered it in 1963. Robinson was now in demand by other Motown artists: Gordy used him as a one-man hit factory, to mastermind releases by the Temptations and Mary Wells, and the Miracles' own career suffered slightly as a result.

They continued to enjoy success in a variety of different styles, mixing dancefloor hits such as 'Mickey's Monkey' and 'Going To A Go-Go' with some of Robinson's most durable ballads, such as 'Ooh Baby Baby' and 'The Tracks Of My Tears'. Although Robinson sang lead on almost all the group's recordings, the rest of the group provided a unique harmony blend behind him, while guitarist Marv Tarplin - who co-wrote several of their hits - was incorporated as an unofficial Miracle from the mid-60s onwards. Claudette Robinson stopped touring with the group after 1965, although she was still featured on many of their subsequent releases.

Exhausted by several years of constant work, Robinson scaled down his writing commitments for the group in the mid-60s, when they briefly worked with Holland/Dozier/Holland and other Motown producers. Robinson wrote their most ambitious and enduring songs, however, including 'The Tears Of A Clown' in 1966 (a belated hit in the UK and USA in 1970), 'The Love I Saw In You Was Just A Mirage', and 'I Second That Emotion' in 1967. These tracks epitomized the strengths of Robinson's compositions, with witty, metaphor-filled lyrics tied to aching melody lines and catchy guitar figures, the latter often provided by Tarplin.

Like many of the veteran Motown acts, the Miracles went into a sales slump after 1967 - the year when Robinson was given individual credit on the group's records. Their slide was less noticeable in Britain, where Motown gained a Top 10 hit in 1969 with a reissue of 'The Tracks Of My Tears', which most listeners imagined was a contemporary record. The success of 'The Tears Of A Clown' prompted a revival in fortune after 1970. 'I'm The One You Need' became another reissue hit in Britain the following year, while 'I Don't Blame You At All', one of their strongest releases to date, achieved chart success on both sides of the Atlantic.

In 1971, Robinson announced his intention of leaving the Miracles to concentrate on his position as vice-president of Motown Records. His decision belied the title of his final hit with the group, 'We've Come Too Far To End It Now' in 1972, and left the Miracles in the unenviable position of having to replace one of the most distinctive voices in popular music. Their choice was William 'Bill' Griffin (b. 15 August 1950, Detroit, Michigan, USA), who was introduced by Robinson to the group's audiences during a 1972 US tour. The new line-up took time to settle, while Smokey Robinson launched a solo career to great acclaim in 1973. The group responded with Renaissance, which saw them working with Motown luminaries such as Marvin Gaye and Willie Hutch. The following year, they re-established the Miracles as a hit-making force with 'Do It Baby' and 'Don'tcha Love It', dance-orientated singles that appealed strongly to the group's black audience. In 1975, 'Love Machine' became the Miracles' first US chart-topper, while the concept album City Of Angels was acclaimed as one of Motown's most progressive releases.


THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS BIOGRAPHY

To hear Smokey Robinson shine his way through his "The Tears of a Clown" is to understand a lovely, perfect moment in American music. A Detroit native and the very soul of Motown, a singer's singer, a poet's own poet, everyone's giving, loving clown—do these begin to describe the miracle that is Smokey Robinson- Fellow Kennedy Center Honoree Bob Dylan once rapturously called Robinson "America's greatest living poet." That is an unguarded, disarmingly emotional response to a musician whose emotions never fail to ring true. Think not only of his lyrics to "Tears of a Clown," but also of "The Track of My Tears," "Shop Around," "You've Really Got A Hold On Me," "My Guy," "The Way You Do the Things You Do," "Get Ready," "It's Growing," "I Second That Emotion," "Sweet Harmony," "Baby Come Close," "Baby That's Backatcha," "I Am I Am," "The Agony And The Ecstasy," "Open," "Quiet Storm," and "Let Your Love Shine On Me." Impressive by any standards as a string of hits, taken together they add up to a body of work that has transformed and defined American music across any pop, soul, R & B, or Rock and Roll divide. Perhaps Bob Seeger put it best in Rolling Stone magazine, when he recalled nostalgically how "I used to go to the Motown revues, and the Miracles always closed the show. They were that good, and everybody knew it. Not flash at all. The Supremes had bigger hits. The Temptations had the better dance moves. The Miracles did it with pure music. Back then the radio played the rougher stuff, [but] Smokey Robinson – they played him all day. Everybody loved his songs, and he had a leg up on all the other singers, with that slightly raspy, very high voice. Smokey was smoky."

That he wrote his own songs seemed like so much icing on a sweet cake. Everybody loved his songs, everybody still does. Together with The Supremes, The Temptations and the Four Tops, Smokey Robinson—with the Miracles and on his own as a composer, producer and hit-maker—was a powerful and influential creative force alongside Motown's visionary Berry Gordy in combining the naïve sweetness of mainstream American pop with the gritty sensuality of the most daring of rhythm and blues. Doo-wop came of age, and the Motown sound was born.

William Robinson was born and raised in Detroit, where as a child he was nicknamed "Smokey" because of his love of Westerns. He was just 15 when he founded a doo-wop group called The Five Chimes with four friends from Northern High School. Playing Detroit clubs, they renamed the group The Matadors in 1957, and were joined by Bobby Rogers, Pete Moore; Ronnie Whites and Smokey Robinson's future wife, Claudette Rogers. They changed names again, to the Miracles, and they met up with the young Berry Gordy, Jr., who in 1958 co-wrote for them the single "Got A Job," a humorous, nevertheless very positive answer song to The Silhouettes' hit "Get a Job." The song came true: young Smokey really got a job. Gordy founded Tamla Records in 1959, soon reincorporating it as Motown Records, with his friend and protégé Smokey Robinson as vice-president by 1961. The rest, it is not exaggeration to note, is music history. The Miracles bridged the worlds of doo-wop and soul, with Robinson as their guiding light. After what proved to be a warm-up single called "Way Over There," Smokey Robinson and the Miracles' second release for Motown, "Shop Around," established a sound that would cool and caress a generation. It was their first million-seller. Throughout the 1960s and early '70s, music and musician alike grew in assurance, from elegant ballads to easy, throbbing dance numbers like "Mickey's Monkey" and "Going To A-Go-Go." Robinson's activity was not limited to The Miracles, either. As a generous songwriter and producer, he created "My Guy" for the sassy Mary Wells, and "My Girl" for the inimitable Temptations. But it was Robinson's own voice, the silky cooing and wooing of everything from "Ooo Baby Baby" right through the immortal "Tears Of A Clown" that forever marked the soundtrack of Baby Boomers' lives.

After Motown's glory days, Robinson continued to thrive on his own. His final hit with The Miracles was 1972's "We've Come To Far To End It Now" and—like the Supremes' bittersweet "Some Day We'll Be Together"—it signaled the end of an era but also the dawn of reinvigorated artistic maturity. Smokey Robinson grew jazzier, perhaps mellower, certainly never a slave to the disco fashion but very much in touch with the pulse of music lovers. His work became more subtle, still yielding unforgettable hits such as "Sweet Harmony" and "Just My Soul Responding." His album A Quiet Storm turned out to be the apotheosis of a golden era of R & B even as a new generation's hip-hop and rap peered not far in the horizon. It was with A Quite Storm that Robinson gave notice that smooth, lush and gorgeous ballads could never be out of place in our hearts. "As a kid, this is what I wanted my life to be," Smokey Robinson once said, confessing that "Not in my wildest dreams did I ever dare to dream that it would be this." He was voted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988. In 1991, he won a Soul Train Music Award for Career Achievement. Never one to rest on his laurels, this poet laureate of love released his first Gospel album, Food for the Spirit, in 2004. In 2006, Howard University conferred on Smokey Robinson an honorary Doctor of Music degree.


THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME BIOGRAPHY

The Miracles were honored with the 2,381st star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Hollywood Chamber of Commerce President and CEO Leron Gubler presided over the ceremony. Guests included Berry Gordy and Stevie Wonder.

7060 Hollywood Boulevard on March 20, 2009.

The star honorees are the original Miracles' lineup: Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White (posthumously), Pete Moore, Smokey Robinson, and the First Lady of Motown, Claudette Robinson. Gloria White, wife of the late Ronnie White and Billy Griffin, former lead singer of The Miracles were also on hand for the celebration.

The Motown Sound began in 1959 with The Miracles, the very first of Berry Gordy's massively-successful pool of performers. From their unpolished start, they were special, diamonds in the rough. Gordy, already a successful songwriter with hits by the likes of Jackie Wilson and Etta James, heard it in their voices and in the songs scribbled in Smokey's notebook.

With Gordy, The Miracles launched the "Sound of Young America," and the rest is musical history. From their doo-wop roots, with songs like "Bad Girl" and "Got A Job," to the 60's and 70's smashes "Shop Around," "You Really Got A Hold On Me," "Ooo Baby, Baby," "Tears Of A Clown," "Do It Baby" and "Love Machine," The Miracles tore down barriers of intolerance, and got the people of the world dancing.The group's songwriting talents, close harmonies, precise choreography, and the smooth lead tenor sounds of Smokey Robinson was a combination equivalent to musical dynamite. Add the premier guitar work and songwriting of Marvin Tarplin, career-long companion to The Miracles, and you've got the soundtrack of a generation.

The music has never stopped. Fifty years after they began, original member and beloved tenor/baritone Bobby Rogers still tours and records with a new lineup. Founding members Claudette Robinson and Pete Moore occasionally join them for special performances. She's that lilting voice on the top of the harmonies - her beauty and sweetness made her the crush of countless teenage boys. And yes, she really was the first girl singer ever signed to Gordy's hit-making company. Pete is that irreplaceable smooth, deep bass on the bottom, which made songs such as 'Doggone Right' and 'Got A Job' unforgettable.

Smokey Robinson performs non-stop as a solo artist, his falsetto and charm intact, causing another generation of girls to swoon. Always, all perform in memory of late member Ronnie White.

Even the oldest songs are fresh today. When they began, little did they know that they were singing and writing songs that would become music standards. Everywhere we go in the 21st century, their voices and those songs are heard daily.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 07:53am


Smokey Robinson inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Smokey Robinson inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles inducted into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame, Smokey Robinson receives the Kennedy Center Honors, The Miracles are enshrined with a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 12:37pm


Smokey Robinson is enshrined with a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Smokey Robinson is inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Smokey Robinson is inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles are inducted into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame, Smokey Robinson receives the Kennedy Center Honors, The Miracles are enshrined with a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)

I guess when The Miracles get inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in the main performers category with Smokey Robinson, the Rock Hall can tell us that the induction of Smokey Robinson in 1987 was an early induction for his solo career. HA HA!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 12:59pm



The MIRACLES' blacklisting from the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME is one of the WORST examples of discriminatory politics that organization has ever committed .They deserved to have been inducted 2 DECADES AGO.

THEY ARE THE HIGHEST- RANKING MOTOWN GROUP on ROLLING STONE'S list of the TOP 50 IMMORTALS, and have MORE GRAMMY HALL OF FAME inducted songs than ANY OTHER MOTOWN GROUP.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 13:18pm


Did you read all the biographies yet, Bill G.?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 13:32pm


"Did you read all the biographies yet, Bill G.?"

Posted by Roy

Yep. sure did, Roy. Thanks for posting them .

Did you ever get The Miracles' Motown DVD ?

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 15:22pm


Not Yet.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 15:58pm


Smokey Robinson's 1983 enshrinement on the Hollywood Walk of Fame didn't come with a biography.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 16:02pm


THE MIRACLES DVD: CERTIFIED GOLD BY THE R.I.A.A !!

http://www.reelinintheyears.com/pr17.html

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08.19.10 @ 19:44pm


***REDIRECTED FROM THE "2011 PREDICTIONS"THREAD***

I thought we already addressed this " Miracles vs. E-Street Band" issue a LONG TIME AGO. There is NO COMPARISON between the two. THE MIRACLES were NOT "sidemen" for Smokey. He was simply a member of the group, just like all of the others,Pete,Ronnie, Bobby, Claudette, and Marv.They all started together.They all made the SAME MONEY for record royalties and personal appearences.Smokey NEVER recorded as a solo artist until AFTER HE LEFT THE MIRACLES in 1972. "Smokey Robinson" was NOT a SEPARATE ENTITY from "The Miracles" .They were all EQUAL MEMBERS of the SAME GROUP. The E-Street Band, on the other hand , WERE SIDEMEN. Bruce Springsteen DID NOT BEGIN his career as a member of this group, as Smokey did with The Miracles. He started as a SOLO artist, and The E-Street Band didn't come until later. They were NOT equal partners with Springsteen,nor did they share equal royalties.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 08.20.10 @ 07:34am


The Miracles started out as The Miracles. Get it? They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years. Then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown. A Miracles induction better include her! I'm sure the Rock Hall won't forget, even though she was not a part of the group when they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, she qualifies for induction. She was inducted with the Miracles in the Vocal Group Hall of Fame and the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 08.20.10 @ 08:03am


They'd better induct MARV TARPLIN too!! He is an ORIGINAL MEMBER, yet, The Hollywood Chamber Of Commerce dissed him when the rest of the group was honored. How they could honor BILLY GRIFFIN, who isn't an original member, (though he does deserve it) , while ignoring MARV , who IS an original, just doesn't make sense, any more than it did for the RRHOF to induct Smokey alone . The "Soul Patrol" website protested Marv's exclusion (the Chamber also initially excluded Billy , but THAT decision was reversed:

http://www.soul-patrol.com/soul/smokey.htm

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 08.20.10 @ 14:00pm


1.Bobby and Claudette are NOT siblings. They are cousins.

2."Excluding compilations, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles released fifteen albums for Motown".

The Miracles recorded far more than 15 albums. Check Wikipedia".

"Add the premier guitar work and songwriting of Marvin Tarplin, career-long companion to The Miracles, and you've got the soundtrack of a generation."

Marv Tarplin was NOT a "career-long companion" of The Miracles. He WAS a member of The Miracles...plain and simple. Motown Records' official liner notes on the Miracles' albums SAY SO.
If the group ever gets inducted, Marv and Claudette should be inducted with them.

(I wish these so-called biographers would get their facts straight).

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 08.21.10 @ 07:59am



http://rockhall.com/inductees/smokey-robinson/bio/

1987 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.23.10 @ 07:30am





You can email Anthony DeCurtis, Terry Stewart and Dave Marsh and tell them about The Miracles.

ADeCurtis at aol dot com
suhl at rockhall dot org
RockRap at aol dot com

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 09.18.10 @ 20:21pm


The email I sent!:

The Miracles started out as The Miracles. Get it? They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years. Then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown.

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)

I guess when The Miracles get inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in the main performers category with Smokey Robinson, the Rock Hall can tell us that the induction of Smokey Robinson in 1987 was an early induction for his solo career, or admit to your mistake!

The Miracles have to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles in the main performers category, NOT THE SIDEMEN CATEGORY!! and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well!!

The Miracles for Induction

Smokey Robinson
Claudette Rogers
Warren "Pete" Moore
Robert "Bobby" Rogers
Ronald "Ronnie" White
Marvin Tarplin
Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 03:23am


Roy, your letter has all the grace and tact of the Spanish Inquisition.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 04:17am


If you think Roy is bad, look at Bill G!

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 04:37am


Roy, your letter has all the grace and tact of the Spanish Inquisition.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 04:17am

My induction speech for Chicago is coming!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 05:54am


(cough,cough,cough...)

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 08:49am


Just checked out Smokey Robinson's entry at the Rock Hall site. Barring a surprise, I wouldn't count on The Miracles being inducted- the bulk of Smokey's entry focuses on The Miracles, with just the last paragraph discussing Smokey's solo endeavors.

Posted by JR on Wednesday, 09.22.10 @ 12:54pm


This is Bill G. The following are comments re- directed from other threads on the FRL site:


"As I mentioned before, if the real Rock Hall were to induct The Miracles, it already would have occured by now. Interestingly, if the Revisited Rock Hall were to have inducted Smokey Robinson and The Miracles seperately, they would have done so. Alas, inducted in the Revisited Rock Hall is The Miracles with Smokey Robinson. In all accounts, an induction for Robinson yet again. It is confusing, yes. But there it is".

You may be right. I may be crazy. But it just may be a lunatic The Miracles are looking for.

If 20 years could go by from the time that Smokey got an individual star on The Hollywood Walk of Fame,until the Miracles got one as a GROUP on 3/20/09....Anything's possible.
We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
(cough,cough) There's no more deserving group ANYWHERE. So, "there it is".
(cough cough). Sorry, gotta reach for the Robitussin. 'Nite all.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 00:14am

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 16:44pm


Man i should see a doc COUGHrushyeselpMC5andironmaidenCOUGH

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 04:16am

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 16:45pm


No....you just need a "Miracle". you choose. Smokey,Bobby,Ron, Pete, Marv , or Claudette?

(Seriously,though, I know you may or may not be familiar with The Miracles (not your genre or era)...so, I invite you to go "The Miracles" page on FRL and read the comments,then click on the "Wikipedia" link and read it...Then you'll see why I'm so adamant about getting them inducted).

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 16:46pm


LAX.... Ditto. (I could be wrong, but I sense that you view The Miracles and Smokey Robinson as separate entities. i.e. Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band). They were not.The Miracles started out as simply "The Miracles",and Smokey was simply included as a member of the group. He (originally) did NOT have top billing, nor did he make any more or less than the other members of the group,even AFTER he got top billing.So, when I say, "The Miracles" I'm including Smokey as a member of the group.

If Curtis Mayfield,Eric Clapton, Michael Jackson, and 3 of the individual Beatles could be inducted separately, AND with their groups, there's no reason why the RRHOF can't do the same thing with The Miracles. You yourself are going for a separate induction for Peter Gabriel,despite the fact that Genesis has already been inducted, INCLUDING HIM.
Same principle.
The Miracles are one of Rolling Stone's Top 50 "Immortals". Artists above and below them on that list have already been inducted. They should have been in by now.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 16:47pm


To make a final point, I do view Smokey Robinson and The Miracles as one entity. In that the Robinson version of the Miracles is given the honors; wheras the post-Robinson Miracles do not. Sad to say, but the rest of the Miracles did not carry the proverbial weight of the group in the same manner of importance that Smokey Robinson did. I made the same case, a while back, regarding Lionel Richie with respect to the Commodores. In all respects, Lionel Richie was the Commodores. Or should I say, the Commodores were Lionel Richie beofre Richie started recordings and tours on his own accord.

Roy is on the NomCom, thus he has the inside information:),

Lax27

Posted by Lax27 on Monday, 09.20.10 @ 20:09pm

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 16:48pm


"To make a final point, I do view Smokey Robinson and The Miracles as one entity. In that the Robinson version of the Miracles is given the honors; whereas the post-Robinson Miracles do not. Sad to say, but the rest of the Miracles did not carry the proverbial weight of the group in the same manner of importance that Smokey Robinson did".

Unlike the other Motown groups , that did not write or produce their own material,Miracles Ron White, Bobby Rogers,Pete Moore, and Marv Tarplin co- wrote MANY of The Miracles' hit songs, flip sides, and album cuts...with and without Smokey...as well as songs by other Motown acts. The Motown Songbook is full of songs credited to Robinson, Rogers, Moore, White, and Tarplin..including hits by Marvin Gaye,(Ain't That Peculiar, I'll Be Doggone, One More Heartache,Take This Heart Of Mine),Mary Wells ( What Love Has Joined Together, My Guy, The One Who Really Loves You, Two Lovers),The Temptations (My Girl, Since I Lost My Baby,It's Growing,The Way You Do The Things You Do,Get Ready,Fading Away,etc,etc,etc.
These songs were not just Smokey compositions. They were co- written by his fellow Miracles as well.The Miracles also co wrote almost all of their own hits as well, including the million-selling Grammy Hall Of Fame Inductee "The Tracks Of My Tears", Going To A Go-Go,My Girl has Gone, Ooo Baby Baby, and many more. None of the other inducted Motown groups, ( Temptations, Supremes,Four Tops,Vandellas,& Gladys & The Pips were songwriters,except for the odd tune here and there.Yet ,it didn't prevent THEIR inductions.
To attempt to minimize the accomplishments of the other Miracles is not only unfair, it's inaccurate. They were ALL a BIG part of the group's success, and ALL of them deserve induction...not just Smokey.
The group's 1965 Gold Album , "Going To A Go-Go", with the exception of only one song , was written, in it's entriety, by The Miracles.

This album has been ranked as #271 in Rolling Stone's list of "The 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time".

After Smokey's departure, The Miracles came up with the Platinum album, "City Of Angels",including the album's #1 smash,"Love Machine".The ENTIRE ALBUM was written and produced by Miracle Pete Moore, and Billy Griffin, Smokey's replacement. Robinson had nothing to do with the writing and production of this album.

If ANY Motown group deserves induction, it's The MIRACLES.They have contributed so many songs to American culture , sung by them, and others, that have ,in effect, become the soundtrack to our lives.


Posted by Bill G.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 16:49pm


****From Wikipedia****

During this period,(1959-1965) The Miracles were the most popular group on the (Motown) label. The Miracles' success paved the way for all future Motown stars, and, as a result, the group was the headlining act of the Motor Town Revue, a nationwide package concert touring show which showcased Motown artists. Their exciting live performances earned them the nickname, "The Showstoppers".Commenting to Rolling Stone Magazine, Bob Seger said,"I used to go to the Motown revues, and the Miracles always closed the show. They were that good, and everybody knew it." [1] The group also influenced a significant number of outside performers as well, particularly The Beatles, who covered The Miracles' "You Really Got a Hold on Me" on their second album, With the Beatles. John Lennon of the Beatles acknowledged Smokey Robinson as one of his favorite writers, and named the Miracles' "I've Been Good To You" as one of his favorite songs. Another Beatles song, Ask Me Why, also written by Lennon, was influenced by The Miracles' hit "What's So Good About Goodbye". George Harrison also greatly admired Robinson and paid tribute to him in his 1976 song 'Pure Smokey', while The Rolling Stones covered their 1965 hit "Going to a Go-Go". The Hollies covered the group's 1963 smash "Mickey's Monkey". The Zombies also covered "You've Really Got a Hold On Me", while The Who covered The Miracles' hit, "I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying". While the British Invasion meant the end of many American artists' recording careers, it had very little effect on The Miracles, who continued having hits throughout this period. In fact, The Miracles were a major influence on many British Invasion groups in particular.In addition, artists of many diverse musical genres have covered their songs, including Jazz, Country & Western, MOR, Reggae, Hip-Hop, Rock, and Pop, as well as R&B/Soul. (See "Cover Versions" section).

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 16:51pm


" Just checked out Smokey Robinson's entry at the Rock Hall site. Barring a surprise, I wouldn't count on The Miracles being inducted- the bulk of Smokey's entry focuses on The Miracles, with just the last paragraph discussing Smokey's solo endeavors".

Posted by JR on Wednesday, 09.22.10 @ 12:54pm

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 17:21pm


Why they are not in is strange

Posted by mrxyzomg on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 18:06pm


****50th Anniversary MIRACLES Tribute****

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6rr0EXntiI

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 09.26.10 @ 01:02am


****THE RRHOF BLACKLISTING OF The MIRACLES****

What do the fans think? check out their opinions HERE:

http://www.amazon.com/tag/rhythm%20and%20blues/forum?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx96T5CZYCDQKK&cdThread=Tx2IUOLQ1YJKED9

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 10.17.10 @ 12:55pm


http://www.hitparadehalloffame.com/inductees2.html

They have not been inducted into or nominated for the Hit Parade Hall of Fame yet either.

I wonder how they will be inducted. It will most likely be as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.29.10 @ 04:39am


**RE-DIRECTED FROM THE "ROCK HALL PROJRCTED" SITE**

*****The Miracles'induction paragraph*****


The Miracles w/ Smokey Robinson
(Detroit, Michigan / 1955 – 1983; 1993 – present)

Induction paragraph:

In 1955, some Detroit High School students decided to form a musical group, The Five Chimes. In this group there was William "Smokey" Robinson, Warren "Pete" Moore, and Ronnie White. With a few changes, by 1957, these 3 where joined by Bobby Rogers and his cousin, Claudette, whose brother was once a member of the group, until Uncle Sam came calling. One year later guitarist Marv Tarplin joined the group. No one knew it then, but these 6 talented teen-agers were to soon change the world of Pop music forever. Called by this time, "The Matadors”, they went to an audition held by Jackie Wilson's managers, which they failed!! But Jackie's young songwriter, Berry Gordy, saw something special in the young group, not just because of their unique sound, but because their lead singer had a notebook of 100 songs...which he had written himself. Gordy became the group's manager and mentor, and with one final name change to "The Miracles", 3 legends were born: the group, the mentor, and the label that they formed. This was the beginning of Motown Records!

The Miracles were more than just a singing group. They were the vanguard act of an entirely new musical movement and genre: "The Motown Sound", the sound that changed Black Music, and by extension, all of Pop Music, forever. Their career was a series of firsts: Motown's first group, its first singer/songwriters, their first #1 record, their first million seller, the first Motown act to appear on Dick Clark's American Bandstand and their success paved the way for all future Motown stars.

Over the next 19 years, The Miracles recorded hit after hit, with million-selling songs such as "You've Really Got a Hold On Me”, "Mickey's Monkey", “I'll Try Something New”, “Ooo Baby Baby”, “Going To A Go-Go”, the multi-award-winning "The Tracks Of My Tears", "I Second That Emotion", "More Love", "The Tears Of A Clown", "Baby Baby Don't Cry, "Do It Baby", "Love Machine, and many more. Their exciting on-stage performances earned them the nickname "The Showstoppers" and soon they became stars all over the world.

While the British Invasion brought an end to many American artists recording careers, It had very little affect on The Miracles, who continued having hits throughout this period. They were, in fact, a major influence on many British Invasion acts including The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Hollies, and The Zombies who have all covered Miracles tunes. British group ABC did a tribute song; ''When Smokey Sings'' and they even gave a Royal Command Performance for Queen Elizabeth II.

Smokey Robinson was called by Bob Dylan "America's Greatest Living Poet." They have also written many hit tunes for other artists under the Motown banner, such as The Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Mary Wells, The Marvelettes and many more, while literally scores of other artists, in every musical genre, have covered Miracles songs.

The Miracles have won numerous awards and accolades... including 4 songs inducted into The Grammy Hall Of Fame (the most of any Motown group),A star on The Hollywood Walk Of Fame,3 songs on Rolling Stones "500 Greatest" list. Their song "The Tracks Of My Tears" has been entered into the United States Library Of Congress.
In 1972, lead singer Smokey Robinson, now a Motown Vice President, retired from the group, and with new lead singer Billy Griffin, both The Miracles and Smokey enjoyed continued success.

Inducted by: Berry Gordy,Jr. (I changed this, because I felt that The Miracles should be inducted by the man who was there with them from the beginning).

Inductees: Billy Griffin, Warren "Pete" Moore, Bill "Smokey" Robinson, Bobby Rogers, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Marv Tarplin and Ronnie White (posthumously)

Performance playlist:
1. “Shop Around”
2. “The Tracks of My Tears”
3. “The Tears of a Clown”

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 10.31.10 @ 13:02pm


Also, a fact not widely publicized, is that EVERY MEMBER of THE MIRACLES (except Claudette) is a winner of the prestigious BMI Songwriters'Award...NOT JUST SMOKEY...which is why ALL OF THEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN INDUCTED.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 10.31.10 @ 13:48pm


ARTISTS WHO WERE INDUCTED INTO THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME AND RECEIVED THE GRAMMY LEGEND AWARD IN THE SAME YEAR:

01. 1990 - Smokey Robinson

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.15.10 @ 18:55pm


Here's one for you, Roy.

ARTISTS WHO HAD A SONG IN THE BILLBOARD TOP 10,WHILE HAVING A "TRIBUTE" SONG IN THE TOP 10 AT THE SAME TIME:
SMOKEY ROBINSON.

ABC recorded a tribute song called "When Smokey Sings" that referenced his influence on the music industry. The single peaked at #5 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. For the week of October 3, 1987, it dropped to #8[13] as Smokey Robinson's single "One Heartbeat" was peaking at #10.[14] That instance of having a tributor and tributee in the Billboard Top 10 at the same time was a rarity if not a unique event.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 11.15.10 @ 20:52pm


JOE TEX, DARLENE LOVE,LL COOL J,THE RONETTES,PERCY SLEDGE,CHUCK WILLIS. THE J GEILS BAND....over THE MIRACLES ?? ARE YOU CRAZY ??? No. the Induction Committee is.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 11.21.10 @ 09:37am


*COMMENTS RE- DIRECTED FROM THE "STEVE PERRY" PAGE*

" Babyface great songwriter for self and others should be in. Guess that's why Smokey Robinson is in solo, but not with the Miracles".

Posted by S L Ballard.

"Wait and see. LL Cool J will get in eventually, but I think it's the Beastie Boys who get the nod this year. I wouldn't have an issue with Babyface getting in as a Non-Performer, and the issue of The Miracles not being in is baffling. I don't really know what to say to that".

Posted by Sam

Well, he had a couple of solo hits or one, but don't think a big enough solo career to write home to moma. Could see him in as songwriter b/c he wrote hits for everyone...Temptations "My Girl", Mary Wells "My Guy" on and on and was Gordy's right hand, probably. But then, what was the name of those other guys in the group... Unlike Tempts, etc., the Miracles was Smokey.

Posted by S L Ballard

The Miracles were an anomaly (spelling?) among the Motown groups in that they wrote their own material, credited to all of them, not just Smokey. Most Motown groups or performers sang material that had been written for them, which makes it a double standard that the Hall uses that as an excuse for keeping The Monkees out. They actually still continued to have hits after Smokey departed, and they were also one of the original Motown groups. (actually, they were THE original Motown group-Bill G.) You can't say you've properly represented R&B if you don't have them in. It turns out Smokey's solo career first began in 1973, which would have made him eligible for the Hall in 1998; however, he was inducted in 1987 (one of the first people inducted), meaning that the Hall broke their own rules. Apparently they did the same thing with Rod Stewart.

The names of The original MIRACLES are WELL KNOWN to Motown fans the world over.Their names are on the writing credits to NUMEROUS HITS by the Temptations, Marvin Gaye,Mary Wells,The Marvelettes,Brenda Holloway,Kim Weston and The Contours, as well as on records by their OWN GROUP. They are:

1.William "Smokey" Robinson
2.Robert "Bobby" Rodgers
3.Claudette Rodgers Robinson (Bobby's cousin and Smokey's ex wife )
4. Ronald "Ronnie" White (now deceased)
5. Warren "Pete" Moore, and
6. Marvin "Marv Tarplin.

ALL of these people had a share in making The MIRACLES successful. ALL of them recorded the songs, co- wrote the tunes, did the tours,...you name it. But, when it came to the RRHOF handing out the credits and flowers...only Smokey got the credit.

..At least the HOLLYWOOD CHAMBER OF COMMERCE was a little more accurate . After giving Smokey an individual star on The Walk Of Fame some 20 or so years ago, They awarded THE MIRACLES one as a GROUP on March 20th of last year (2009) . It's long past time for the RRHOF to own up to their mistake and give these people the credit they deserve.

Without MOTOWN , there would have been NO Stevie Wonder, no Supremes or Diana Ross, NO Jackson 5 or Michael, NO Commodores or Lionel Richie, no Marvin Gaye. MOTOWN was the vehicle by which ALL OF THEM found fame and fortune .

...but , without THE MIRACLES, there would have been NO MOTOWN .Berry Gordy HIMSELF said it on March 20th 2009.

Stevie also acknowledged it at that that same ceremony as well. I know. I was there. He tearfully said, and I quote:

" Without THE MIRACLES, there would have been NO STEVIE WONDER. I owe EVERYTHING that I have to The MIRACLES."
All of these ,and numerous other artists, were just BRANCHES of the Motown tree.

THE MIRACLES were the ROOTS.ALL of them. Not just SMOKEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4k5zz_B7nU


Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 15:23pm


Here is more with STEVE WONDER from THE MIRACLES' STAR CEREMONY:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm0LbdMggVI

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 15:28pm


"The Miracles were an anomaly (spelling?) among the Motown groups in that they wrote their own material, credited to all of them, not just Smokey. Most Motown groups or performers sang material that had been written for them, which makes it a double standard that the Hall uses that as an excuse for keeping The Monkees out."

Actually, I think he meant to say "THE MIRACLES"...NOT "THE MONKEES" .

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 15:33pm


Wouldn't be surprised to see this debate going on 5, 10, 15, etc... years from now. LOL

For whatever reason, the HOF committee probably feels The Miracles are represented well in the Performer category with Smokey Robinson as an inductee. Whether that's right or not is another story.

Posted by JR on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 15:48pm


....It's NOT right. That's WHY the debate .

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 17:44pm


Smokey persuaded Gordy to "be the man" instead of "work for the man." Miracles had hits after Smokey - apparently no one knew or cared... He was just too big of a stand out in the group and he wrote not only for group, but others mega hits. I thought Nesbitt (?spelling) of the Monkeys was a writer. Did you say the Hall likes R&B, guess whether you wrote it or not. And, of course Rod Stewart belongs in the Hall or they w/hear from me. You might call him R&B.

Posted by Sam.
----

"If they choose to induct those who they consider to be the elite, then they'll have a legitimate shot. Same thing applies to LL Cool J."

Think he may just be considered "elite" with a hit show under his belt.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 18:23pm


CURTIS MAYFIELD essentially IS The IMPRESSIONS. He wrote and produced all of the hits, and sang lead on them .Sam Gooden and Fred Cash didn't write songs...and Jerry Butler departed the group very early,essentially writing his OWN songs but not those of the group.

But, this didn't stop the RRHOF from inducting BOTH ENTITIES- The Impressions in 1991...and Mayfield solo in 1999.There are great similarities between the two groups.

So, why the prejudicial,political attitude against inducting THE MIRACLES ??

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 18:55pm


****THE MOTOWN STORY****

An audio recording.

http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc19780/m1/

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 11.28.10 @ 09:39am


YEAR AFTER YEAR, for OVER TWO DECADES,The Miracles have been ignored...passed over for induction, having not even been NOMINATED, NOT EVEN ONCE in the entire history of the ROCK and ROLL HALL OF FAME.Up until this very day, NO ONE in the ROCK and ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION COMMITTEE has given the slightest explanation for The Miracles' snub, while year after year, less deserving artists, with NOWHERE NEAR the Miracles'credentials, get nominated and/or inducted:

(no offense intended to the following artists or their fans):

1.DARLENE LOVE
2.CHIC
3.JOE TEX
4.CHUCK WILLIS
5.J.GEILS BAND
6.GRANDMASTER FLASH & THE FURIOUS FIVE
7.LL COOL J
8.PERCY SLEDGE
9.LAURA NYRO
10 DR.JOHN
11.THE RONETTES
12.THE PRETENDERS
13 BLONDIE
(there are numerous others).

NONE of these artists can boast of having over 50 chart hits. NONE of these artists can boast of having 4 songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME. NONE of them can boast of having influenced the British Invasion, or being the vanguard act of a musical movement as big or as groundbraking as THE MOTOWN SOUND... and NONE OF THEM HAVE HAD THEIR SONGS COVERED BY as big , or as diverse a group of artists as THE MIRACLES.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.19.10 @ 12:55pm


Don't believe it ?

Check out the proof right HERE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles#Cover_versions

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.19.10 @ 12:56pm


Numerous publications have asked the same question...why have The Miracles...a group that should be NO-BRAINERS for RRHOF induction, been ignored, blacklisted,NOT EVEN BEEN CONSIDERED for induction ...while almost all of their contemporaries, in and out of Motown...been enshrined into the Hall ?

Here is the latest: taken from GOLDMINE,the famous oldies music magazine, dated just days ago, 12/15/10, that asks why Motown's 3 M's The Miracles, Marvelettes, and Mary Wells-have been omitted from Rock Hall Induction:

GOLDMINE MAGAZINE :
http://www.goldminemag.com/tag/claudette-robinson

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.19.10 @ 13:02pm


DICK CLARK interviews THE MIRACLES (L to R) Ronnie White,Pete Moore,Bobby Rogers,and Billy Griffin (Smokey's replacement)...on the occasion of their chart run of the Platinum-selling "CITY OF ANGELS" album and it's #1 smash hit, "LOVE MACHINE" (1976)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rFsQSHyalU

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.19.10 @ 13:45pm


The MIRACLES... singing their 1976 Platinum single,

"LOVE MACHINE" (1976)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E9P_2_Fx3Y&feature=related

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.19.10 @ 13:50pm


THE MIRACLES (L to R ) PETE MOORE,BOBBY ROGERS, the late RONNIE WHITE, and BILLY GRIFFIN ...SINGING THEIR 1975 Million Seller "Do It Baby"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPZWr0uN6Pw&NR=1

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.19.10 @ 13:57pm


THE MIRACLES (L to R):

Pete Moore, Bobby Rogers,Ronnie White, and Smokey Robinson ...singing Their classic 1965 million-seller , "THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwkZrj2VT4


This song:

1.Has been selected by ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE as one of the 500 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIME.

2. Has been inducted into THE GRAMMY HALL OF FAME.

3.Has been selected as one of THE ROCK and ROLL HALL OF FAME'S 500 SONGS THAT SHAPED ROCK and ROLL (3 50).

4. HAS been Ranked by the RIAA (The Record Industry Assoiation of America) at #127 in its list of the SONGS OF THE CENTURY - the 365 GREATEST SONGS of the 20th CENTURY.

5.On 14 May 2008 the song was preserved by the United States Library of Congress as an "culturally, historically, and aesthetically significance" to the National Recording Registry.

6.Was also awarded "The Award Of Merit" from The American Society of Composers, Authors,and Publishers (ASCAP) for Miracles members/composers Pete Moore, Marv Tarplin, and Smokey Robinson.

7. Was ranked at #5 of the Top 10 Best Songs of All Time by a panel of 20 top industry songwriters and producers including Hal David, Paul McCartney, Brian Wilson, Jerry Leiber, and others as reported to Britain's Mojo music magazine.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.19.10 @ 14:17pm


ALL OF THIS....From a group that the RRHOF says is not worthy of induction.

Think about it.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 12.19.10 @ 14:28pm


Goldmine-The famous oldies music magazine, recently issued an article on 12/15/10 , in it's continuing series on " Artists who should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but are not".

This article is about the 3M's of Motown: Miracles,Marvelettes,and Mary Wells: Missing from the Rock Hall.

Check it out HERE:

http://www.goldminemag.com/blogs/mary-miracles-marvelettes-motowns-missing-from-rock-hall/comment-page-1#comment-177481

...and feel free to make comments.

R.I.P. to Ronnie White.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 01.30.11 @ 11:51am


I've been thinking ahead to the fall and about what I'd choose. I can't really choose who I'd nominate, but I can decide who I'd induct.

-The Miracles (tip of the hat to Bill G. for persistance)"

Posted by Sam.






"I'd pick...

The Miracles (I'm not familiar with many R&B groups and I like Tears Of A Clown so yeah)"

Posted by GFW

....Hey Guys-Good call.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 01.30.11 @ 13:40pm


http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_halloffame_side.html

Marv Tarplin is listed as a Sideman on the Digital Dream Door list of candidates for the Rock Hall

Marv Tarplin

As a guitarist for Motown, most frequently with the Miracles, Tarplin carved out one of the most distinctive sounds of the 60's. Further bolstering his candidacy is his frequent co-writing credits with Smokey Robinson on such classics as "Tracks of My Tears", "Going To A Go Go" and "I Second That Emotion", all featuring brilliant hooks he was known for.

Qualifications: 8 - Unquestioned Credentials

Posted by Roy on Monday, 02.14.11 @ 15:13pm


Speaking of "brilliant hooks" , listen to Miracle Marv Tarplin's hooks on THIS ONE...from the MIRACLES' 1970 album, "A Pocketful Of Miracles"

"You've Got The Love I Need"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKQclt8O-pQ

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.23.11 @ 19:24pm


Here's an interesting anomaly...

THE MIRACLES sing their 1966 Top 20 hit ,

"(COME 'ROUND HERE) I'M THE ONE YOU NEED"...

in English and ITALIAN !!

Produced by Holland-Dozier-Holland


This song was also a Top 20 Hit in England, peaking at # 13 on the British charts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi_cKozEg40

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.23.11 @ 19:31pm


The Miracles started out as The Miracles. Get it? They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years. Then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown.

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)

I guess when The Miracles get inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in the main performers category with Smokey Robinson, the Rock Hall can tell us that the induction of Smokey Robinson in 1987 was an early induction for his solo career, or admit to your mistake!

The Miracles have to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles in the main performers category, NOT THE SIDEMEN CATEGORY!! and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well!!

The Miracles for Induction

Smokey Robinson
Claudette Rogers
Warren "Pete" Moore
Robert "Bobby" Rogers
Ronald "Ronnie" White
Marvin Tarplin
Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.3.11 @ 23:49pm


I honestly don't understand why there wasn't a total uproar when Smokey Robinson was inducted without the Miracles. Just imagine the uproar if Freddie Mercury went in without Queen. What would people say say if they induct Kurt Cobain without Nirvana?

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 07:22am


^ Ignore the double "say" in that post.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 04.4.11 @ 07:23am


There WAS a total uproar.Fellow Motowners, music industry insiders, and Disc Jockeys all over America protested The Miracles' snub back in 1987,and the protests still continue to this day. Sirius Radio did an entire week of shows about it, and Sirius-XM disc jockey COOL BOBBY B has a site on this issue, available HERE :
http://www.myspace.com/coolbobbyb/blog/530612588

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 02:43am




Goldmine Magazine reported on the snubs of The Miracles, Marvelettes, and Mary Wells
HERE:
http://www.goldminemag.com/blogs/mary-miracles-marvelettes-motowns-missing-from-rock-hall/comment-page-1#comment-177481

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 02:44am



***OTHER ARTICLES PROTESTING THE MIRACLES' RRHOF SNUB***

http://www.claycoleshow.com/Rock_Hall.html

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 02:48am


More on The MIRACLES:
http://www.notinhalloffame.com/articles.php?article_id=63

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 02:55am


***STILL MORE***
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles#Later_years.2C_The_RRHOF_controversy.2C_awards_and_accolades

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 02:57am


***MORE ON THE MIRACLES/RRHOF CONTROVERSY***
http://faac.us/adf/messages/131452/169938.html

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 03:00am


***STILL MORE on THE MIRACLES***
http://blurt-online.com/features/view/438/

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 03:05am


***STILL MORE ON THE MIRACLES***
(from the "Soulwalking UK" Website:
***MORE on The MIRACLES***
http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/Miracles.html

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 03:10am



Hey, thanks Bill G. and Roy for all the links and for helping me stay informed!

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 08:56am


***The MIRACLES***
What does CLAUDETTE ROBINSON think of The Miracles' RRHOF SNUB? listen to her interview HERE:

http://www.soul-patrol.net/rb_claudette.ram

SOUL PATROL Audio interview: Claudette Robinson of THE MIRACLES (board member of THE RHYTHM & BLUES FOUNDATION

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 14:50pm


I hope the The MIRACLES are under serious consideration for ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME Induction. They deserve it more than HALF of the artists that are in there.....and it's a TRAVESTY that they have been ignored all of these years !!

It’s a SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS when, on Motown’s 50TH ANNIVERSARY, THE LABEL’S FIRST GROUP and it's FIRST and most IMPORTANT recording act CAN’T GET INDUCTED into the RRHOF,DUE TO POLITICS and STUPIDITY, while dozens of less-deserving acts with FAR FEWER HITS, and far less influential,are getting inducted every year. There’s NO WAY that you can convince me that ONE-HIT WONDER PERCY SLEDGE, THE RONETTES (8 HITS) , AND GRANDMASTER FLASH (??!!) DESERVE INDUCTION over the MIRACLES .The MIRACLES were THE ONE ACT WHOSE SUCCESS OPENED THE DOORS for EVERY MOTOWN ACT THAT FOLLOWED THEM….With over 50 CHART HITS, 4 songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME , 3 SONGS in ROLLING STONE’S LIST OF THE 500 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIME,AND EVEN 3 songs in the Rock and Roll Hall’s OWN list of the 500 SONGS THAT HELPED SHAPE ROCK AND ROLL,Inductees into the DOO WOP HALL OF FAME, THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME,…and even the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME, where they just got their star this past March 20th,2009, THE MIRACLES ARE AMONG THE BEST OF THE BEST . They are by NO MEANS “sidemen” or “backups”!! Even WITHOUT SMOKEY, they had 9 charting singles,a Platinum Album (1976's”City of Angels”, a Gold single, “Do It Baby”, and and a multi-million- selling #1 Platinum single ( Love Machine) Smokey hasn’t had a Platinum album OR a #1 Pop Hit as a solo artist… but The MIRACLES (without him) HAVE HAD BOTH !!! They are also far and away THE MOST COVERED MOTOWN ACT OF ALL TIME… with more than 50 of their songs covered by literally HUNDREDs of other acts..in every different musical genre: POP, SOUL, COUNTRY, REGGAE, MOR, JAZZ, …BLUEGRASS, EVEN RAP & HIP-HOP !!! They were JOHN LENNON’S favorite group: several Beatles songs, such as “Ask Me Why” and “Sexy Sadie”, were DIRECTLY INFLUENCED by Miracles songs…and that’s a fact you can CHECK !! Not only that , but The MIRACLES were the ONLY Motown group during the sixties that wrote their OWN MATERIAL…. ALL OF THEM…NOT JUST SMOKEY !! The Temptations didn’t, The Supremes didn’t , nor did the Four Tops,The Jackson Five or The Vandellas… But THE MIRACLES DID . (ALL of them...NOT JUST SMOKEY. But, those other acts get inducted… while The Miracles DON’T ?? What distorted logic dictated THAT ? Do you really mean to tell me that THE MIRACLES were good enough to have given a ROYAL COMMAND PERFORMANCE for QUEEN ELIZABETH,which they did in 1968, but not good enough for Induction ??
The RRHOF’S Ill- advised attempt to honor Smokey apart from his group, while other artists, such as CURTIS MAYFIELD, MICHAEL JACKSON, and ERIC CLAPTON ,WERE HONORED SEPARATELY, and WITH THEIR GROUPS , smacks of unfairness .Even Motown founder BERRY GORDY said… at the groups’ HWOF induction on 3/20/09 …”Without THE MIRACLES. Motown would NOT be the Motown it is today”
He ought to KNOW.

These people are now in their 70's. They've been BLACKLISTED from the RRHOF and IGNORED for 23 YEARS...FOR NO GOOD REASON, WHILE MOST OF THEIR MOTOWN LABELMATES HAVE BEEN IN THE HALL FOR YEARS !!! HOW MUCH LONGER DO THEY HAVE TO WAIT ???

PLEASE INDUCT SMOKEY ROBINSON, BOBBY ROGERS, CLAUDETTE ROBINSON,PETE MOORE, the late RONNIE WHITE. MARV TARPLIN, and BILLY GRIFFIN ...THE MIRACLES ....as a GROUP, INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME...WHILE THEY'RE STILL ALIVE TO SHARE THE HONOR !!!

Posted by Bill on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 07:27am


http://www.harveyrobbins.net/id2.htm

I don't see The Miracles listed here for the Doo Wop Hall of Fame. Does anyone have a link? Are they being inducted next year?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 07:42am


www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz5kr9hb6Hc

Doo Wop Hall of Fame Concert

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 07:47am


Who would be fined if The Miracles were inducted? What policy would be broken?

Posted by Xdc1 on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 08:14am


There are 2 different DOO-WOP HALLS of FAME. THE ORIGINAL Doo-Wop Hall of Fame (which , I believe,no longer exists) listed The Miracles as Inductees. The newer one (which very subtlely) lists itself as Doo-Wopp Hall Of Fame - notice the difference in spelling)- is more recent , has different owners and administrators) has not, so far, inducted The Miracles.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 12:05pm


The original Doo-Wop Hall of Fame (founded 1987 and based in Hollywood California) has a Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Doo-Wop-Hall-of-Fame/318267995256

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 12:21pm


The newer organization is called the "Doo-Wopp Hall Of Fame Of America" -a totally different organization. their site is http://www.harveyrobbins.net/id2.htm

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 12:22pm


***CORRECTION***
The ORIGINAL Doo-Wop Hall of Fame DOES still exist. it was formed in 1987 by Lonnie Cook , also has another site:http://www.meetup.com/Doo-Wop-Hall-of-Fame/

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 12:29pm


I also found this, it appears to be an online, fan-created Hall of Fame, no mention of the Miracles anywhere that I could find:

http://doowopjukeboxhalloffame.com/

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 12:42pm


*****THE MIRACLES******
**FLASH** THE MIRACLES have just been inducted into the HIT PARADE HALL of FAME !!
http://www.hitparadehalloffame.com/artistbios/a2011artist_pages/SmokeyRobinsontheMiracles.html
ALL members of the group were included in the induction were included (although someone should tell the committee that it's MARV TARPLIN, not "Mary Tarpin" .

The Miracles' "Hall of Fame" Awards:
Grammy Hall Of Fame
Vocal Group Hall Of Fame
Doo-Wop Hall Of Fame
Michigan Rock and Roll Legends Hall of Fame
The Peoples'Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame[33]
Hollywood Walk Of Fame
....and now THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME !!
JUST ONE MORE REASON THAT MAKES THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME LOOK EVENMORE STUPID FOR NOT INDUCTING THEM !!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 21:33pm


*****OOPS !!*****
IT'S JUST A NOMINATION!! SORRY ABOUT THAT !! (THOUGH IM SURE THAT THEY'LL GET IN !!)

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 21:38pm


Maybe I should just go back to posting commercials for " Blue Cheer " (LOL).

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 21:42pm


NOW IN STORES
SPECIAL COLLECTORS EDITION
ROLLINGSTONE
THE 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME
PAGE 118-119 TELLS YOU WHO VOTED

PAGE 46 - # 32 - SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES

ARTICLE ABOUT SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES WRITTEN BY BOB SEGER

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 22:13pm


http://www.hitparadehalloffame.com/artistbios/a2011artist_pages/SmokeyRobinsontheMiracles.html

Smokey Robinson & the Miracles nominated for the 2011 Hit Parade Hall of Fame. All members mentioned except for Billy Griffin. The 2011 inductees will be announced in January or February of 2012. Strange, but that's how The Hit Parade Hall of Fame operates. The announce the inductees for the previous year, in the following year!

Smokey Robinson & the Miracles bio:

William "Smokey" Robinson was born February 19, 1940 in Detroit, Michigan. He, along with Claudette Rogers , Ronald White, Pete Moore, Bobby Rogers & Marv Tarplin are the original members of The Miracles, a group known as the creators of the “Motown Sound”. The Miracles have sold over 40,000,000 records worldwide, winning numerous Gold and Platinum Record awards along with four
Grammy’s, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and induction into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame and the Doo-Wop Hall of Fame. Starting in 1960, “Shop Around” was the first of eight Gold singles. “You’ve Really Got a Hold on me”, “Mickey’s Monkey”, I second that Emotion”, “Baby, Baby Don’t Cry”, “The Tears of a Clown”, “Love Machine” and “Do It Baby” would follow. As a solo artist, Smokey Robinson added four more Gold records with
“Cruisin’”, “Being With You”, “Just To See Her” and “One Heartbeat”. In 1987 Robinson was inducted into the “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame” and honored at the Kennedy Center in 2006.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 22:27pm


In 1978, Billy Griffin and Pete Moore retired from performing to concentrate on songwriting. Griffin later went on to enjoy a briefly successful solo career in the 1980s, scoring a hit with "Hold Me Tighter in the Rain" in 1982. Ronnie White and Bobby Rogers recruited new members Dave Finley and Carl Cotton.[5] After reuniting with Smokey Robinson on the Motown 25 television special in 1983, (minus Ronnie White), the Miracles essentially disbanded and ceased to perform. Sadly,twenty years later, Cotton was murdered after an altercation in Detroit on September 14, 2003.

Motown held a 35th anniversary retrospective for the Miracles in 1993, and Ronnie White and Bobby Rogers decided to reunite the group. The two of them and Dave Finley recruited Sidney Justin (formerly of Shalamar) as the new fourth member, and began making personal appearances and touring. White, the last founding member remaining in the group, died of leukemia in 1995, and the other three members carried on as a trio.

In 1987, Smokey Robinson was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist. In a move that has since sparked much controversy, the other original Miracles – Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White, Pete Moore,Marv Tarplin, and Claudette Robinson – were not inducted. Nor was '70s Miracles lead singer Billy Griffin.[6] This has miffed Robinson, Motown alumnus, music industry insiders, and Miracles fans, who feel the entire group deserves induction.[7] [8] Particularly so, since Rolling Stone Magazine had already listed The Miracles among its Immortals—The 50 Greatest Artists Of All Time and because the group has three songs on The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame's own list of The 500 Songs That Helped Shape Rock and Roll. The Miracles as a group were honored with the national Rhythm and Blues Foundation's Pioneer Award in 1997, and inducted into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame in 2001.

New York City's newspaper, The Village Voice, in its issue of Oct. 30th, 2009, in reporting on the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame's 25th Anniversary Concert, stated in an interview with Smokey, that he expressed "regret" that the rest of The Miracles weren't inducted into the Hall Of Fame with him. [9] In December, 2010, Goldmine, the famous oldies music magazine, in its continuing series on "Artists Who Should be in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, But Are Not", focused on The Miracles, Marvelettes, and Mary Wells. About The Miracles, author Phill Marder stated :"If the Supremes got in with Diana Ross and the Vandellas made it in with Martha Reeves and the three other Tops made it in with Levi Stubbs, how could the Miracles, who were much more important, not get in with Smokey?" Read more: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame still missing 3 Motown stalwarts | Goldmine Magazine http://www.goldminemag.com/blogs/mary-miracles-marvelettes-motowns-missing-from-rock-hall#ixzz1G244zef6 Little Anthony and The Imperials, on their 2009 induction into the RRHOF, mentioned The Miracles as well. yet, The RRHOF Induction Committee has continued to ignore the group, for unknown reasons.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 22:50pm


http://www.soul-patrol.net/rb_claudette.ram

In an interview with SOUL PATROL Claudette Robinson of THE MIRACLES stated the following:

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame may feel that The Miracles are in the hall of fame because of the fact that Smokey was inducted in 1987. Robert (Bobby) Rogers (a member of the Miracles) has spoken to some of the board members of the Hall of Fame, and they said The Miracles are already in there, and Bobby said no we're not! Maybe Smokey was inducted because of his songwriting. There is no envy. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

What a joke!!!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 23:09pm


In addition to the aforementioned songs , The Miracles' tunes THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS, GOING TO A GO-GO and OOO BABY BABY also were million-plus sellers, AS WERE THE GOING TO A GO GO and CITY OF ANGELS albums. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tracks_of_My_Tears

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 01:07am


Here are more Wikipedia references:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_to_a_Go-Go_(song)

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 01:14am


****The MIRACLES****
HERE'S MORE: FROM WIKIPEDIA:
Here are more Wikipedia references: CITY OF ANGELS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Angels_(album)
A platinum selling album- over 1 million copies sold

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 01:17am


*****THE MIRACLES****
Miracle PETE MOORE'S CORPORATE WEBSITE-WBMM ENTERPRISES :AWARDS including the group's PLATINUM ALBUM for CITY OF ANGELS: http://www.gbelv.com/pete_moore_awards.html

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 01:23am


****OOO BABY BABY****
A million-selling Gold Record for The Miracles:
http://www.gbelv.com/pete_moore_awards.html

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 01:29am


If CURTIS MAYFIELD can be inducted solo,and also with THE IMPRESSIONS.
MICHAEL JACKSON solo , and with THE JACKSON FIVE,
CLYDE McPHATTER solo, and with THE DRIFTERS,
JOHNNY CARTER with THE FLAMINGOS and THE DELLS,
SAMMY STRAIN with THE IMPERIALS and THE O'JAYS,
3 INDIVIDUAL members of THE BEATLES as well as THE GROUP ITSELF,
And ERIC CLAPTON 3 TIMES...

...How can they justify inducting SMOKEY ROBINSON as a SOLO ARTIST...
While just THROWING AWAY the OTHER MIRACLES....
while giving him SOLE credit for ALL OF THE GROUP'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS...
WHEN BOBBY, PETE, RONNIE and MARV CO-WROTE and CO PRODUCED MANY OF THE GROUPS SONGS...and CLAUDETTE held things down on the HOME FRONT?? ...
and BILLY GRIFFIN sang lead on and CO-WROTE THE GROUP'S BIGGEST SINGLE AND ALBUM EVER !!
History proves that EVERYTHING that THE MIRACLES EVER DID....THEY DID AS A GROUP !!...
SO WHY IS ONE PERSON GETTING ALL OF THE CREDIT...
WHILE THE REST ARE BEING JUST THROWN AWAY ??

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 01:47am


I've never had the impression Mr. Robinson was particularily 'miffed' over the non-induction of the Miracles.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 07:16am


Daryl Hall and John Oates gave the induction speech for Smokey Robinson in 1987.

Who should give the induction speech for The Miracles? Who ever gives the speech better go all out and talk about how ridiculous it was for the idiots at the Rock Hall to induct Smokey Robinson without the Miracles in 1987, and state the reasons.

If the group had never been renamed they would have been inducted as The Miracles in 1987.

They never should have been renamed!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 07:56am


http://www.hitparadehalloffame.com/artistbios/a2011artist_pages/SmokeyRobinsontheMiracles.html#

Click on the STAR on the top right of this link to vote for The Miracles

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 08:15am


For some reason, the above link didn't work for me, but this one did:

http://www.hitparadehalloffame.com/artistbios/a2011artist_pages/SmokeyRobinsontheMiracles.php

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 08:29am


Sorry the above link isn't clickable, your gonna have to copy/paste it, I don't know how to make the clickable link option on here.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 08:30am


You have to post your link above your text. The way I always do. Leave a space between.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 10:49am


Thanks Roy!

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 10:56am


Jesus Bill G stop stressing out about this. Complaining here won't help.
And The Jakcson five were a bigger band than the miracles were, or atleast the miracles minus Smokey Robinson.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 12:41pm


Without The Miracles there would have been NO MOTOWN (Berry Gordy himself said it.) then where would the Jackson Five, Supremes , Temptations, Four Tops , etc. etc. etc. have been ?

Besides, I'm not the only one making comments here.

Of course, I could do a commercial for Blue Cheer .

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 14:06pm


Take Smokey out of the band and they certainly would not of been as big as they were.
I think Kraftwerk is an absolutely vital inclusion and a ridiculous exclusion from the hall but you don't see me POSTING IN ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME ABOUT IT.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 14:11pm


ALL CAPS ? ME ?? SURELY YOU JEST.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 14:22pm


The Miracles had their biggest single and album ever 5 years after Smokey left. (Love Machine and City Of Angels).

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 14:25pm


NO, I DO NOT JEST.

Well that was way after they "Created" Motown. What i'm saying is if they didn't have Smokey in the beginning.
The Miracles should be in the hall, added onto Smokey's induction, not as an seperate band or hell you may as well add in all the other soul backing groups as their own thing.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 15:01pm


This issue has already come up numerous times before.

There are many similarities between the Miracles , and say, the Impressions.

Both groups had a star lead singer who was also the groups main writer - Smokey Robinson and Curtis Mayfield .
Both groups were R&B vocal groups who started in the fifties ....and scored their greatest success in the sixties...and continued success in the seventies.

The big difference is that the other Miracles co- wrote the hits with Smokey , while Impressions Sam Gooden and Fred Cash did not co- write with Curtis.
Both groups' lead singers had successful solo careers.
Yet, the RRHOF gave Mayfield a separate solo induction ....as well as inducting him with the group. This is the same thing that should have happened with The Miracles .
The other Miracles were not "back-up "singers for Smokey . They , like The Impressions , were all members of the same group. They all made the same equal share in royalties and personal appearances. Smokey didn't make any more of less than the rest.
Smokey , due to his impact on the music industry , deserves a separate induction (which he's already gotten) ....but The Miracles as a group (including him), deserve induction as well. just like Mayfield and The Impressions.
The problem is that sometimes people have a tendency to look upon Smokey and the other Miracles as separate entities. They were not . Their accomplishments were synonymous.There have even been instances where Miracles Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White , and Claudette Robinson have sang lead on Miracles tunes .

Just as a side point, I have been not a regular blogger on this site for quite a while - I was responding to recent posts by Tahvo, Roy ,and others concerning the Miracles / RRHOF controversy.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 20:10pm


NOW IN STORES
SPECIAL COLLECTORS EDITION
ROLLINGSTONE
THE 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME
PAGE 118-119 TELLS YOU WHO VOTED

PAGE 46 - # 32 - SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES

ARTICLE ABOUT SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES WRITTEN BY BOB SEGER

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 21:22pm


Who should give the induction speech for the Miracles?

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 21:23pm


If it ever happens, I would say Berry Gordy,The man who was there with them from the beginning. The Miracles were with Berry since before Motown Records was formed. It would mean things would finally have gone full circle.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.8.11 @ 23:06pm


***The Miracles'page on Facebook***
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Smokey-Robinson-The-Miracles/185372012320

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.10.11 @ 22:25pm


***BORDERS'50th Anniversary MIRACLES Tribute***
http://www.bordersmedia.com/motown/smokey.asp

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.10.11 @ 22:57pm


****THE MIRACLES'DEFINITIVE DVD (MOTOWN)****
***R.I.A.A.CERTIFIED GOLD SELLER-STILL AVAILABLE***
http://www.amazon.com/Smokey-Robinson-Definitive-Performances-1963-1987/dp/B000JMK6IK/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.10.11 @ 23:02pm


I've got this funny feeling now. It smells fishy. Something tells me the Rock Hall renamed the Sideman category, "The Award for Recording Excellence" in preparation for the induction of The Miracles, because they already inducted Smokey Robinson without the Miracles in the main performers category, which the Rock Hall now knows was a mistake, and they don't want to induct Smokey Robinson again with The Miracles in the main performers category. So, the Rock Hall renames the Sideman category "The Award for Recoding Excellence" because they want to induct The Miracles, but The Miracles were not really Sidemen. Very sneaky! They'll induct The Miracles without Smokey Robinson (even though he was a Miracle to begin with) and they will induct Billy Griffin with The Miracles even though he wasn't a sideman when Smokey was with the group, hence the reason the Rock Hall changed the name of the category from Sideman to The Award for Musical Excellence.

How many of you would be upset if The Miracles were inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame without Smokey Robinson, and in the Sideman Category (The Award for Musical Excellence)? I know I would be very upset, even though they would finally be called inductees, but not in the right category. It would make their induction less significant! An insult!

The Supremes, The Temptations, and The Four Tops get inducted in the main performers category, but The Miracles get inducted in the sideman category and without Smokey Robinson. That would be very sad!!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 09:29am


If they try to do THAT, It will cause as big an uproar as when they failed to induct The Miracles back in 1987 !! Motown and Miracles fans the world over will be really pissed !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 09:37am


It would be kinda shitty. They should really just admit they made a mistake and add the rest of the miracles onto Smokey's induction.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 10:33am


It would be kinda shitty. They should really just admit they made a mistake and add the rest of the miracles onto Smokey's induction.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 10:33am

And how would that play out? Like amending the constitution? Would The Miracles Rock Hall trophies read 1987, or 20??. Would there be an asterisk next to their name in the Rock Hall bio. Would this look silly to anyone? Would anyone be upset?

The best thing is for the Rock Hall to ignore their rules this time (no one can die or get sued for this) and nominate and induct The Miracles in the main performers category, and just consider Smokey Robinson's 1987 induction and early induction for his solo career. So what if he's in there twice. Lots of other artists are in there twice too.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 10:58am


It would be kinda shitty. They should really just admit they made a mistake and add the rest of the miracles onto Smokey's induction.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 10:33am

And how would that play out? Like amending the constitution? Would The Miracles Rock Hall trophies read 1987, or 20??. Would there be an asterisk next to their name in the Rock Hall bio. Would this look silly to anyone? Would anyone be upset?

The best thing is for the Rock Hall to ignore their rules this time (no one can die or get sued for this) and nominate and induct The Miracles in the main performers category, and just consider Smokey Robinson's 1987 induction and early induction for his solo career. So what if he's in there twice. Lots of other artists are in there twice too.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 10:58am


NOMINATE AND INDUCT THE MIRACLES IN THE MAIN PERFORMERS CATEGORY

THE MIRACLES FOR INDUCTION INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

William "Smokey" Robinson
Warren "Pete" Moore
Robert "Bobby" Rogers
Ronald "Ronnie" White
Claudette Rogers
Marvin Tarplin
Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 12:02pm


I think it'd be better if they did add them and not take up another space.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 14:40pm


What they need to do is stop playing games with this group . First, the RRHOF fails to nominate them . EVER. Then, they induct Smokey. ALONE. Next , Digital Dream Door suggests inducting Marv Tarplin . AS A SIDEMAN.And then , they have the unmitigated GALL to put Bobby Rogers' SUIT into the Hall of Fame,HIS SUIT. BUT NOT HIM .
These organizations need to stop piecing out THE MIRACLES and INDUCT THEM.ALL OF THEM. They deserve it. And this issue is not going to go away until they do !!

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 15:00pm


The Miracles are the most historically important group on the Motown label. They :

1. Were Motown's first group.
2. Had the label's first million- seller.
3. Were the first Motown act to play Dick Clark's American Bandstand.
4. Were the headline act of the famous Motortown Revue touring shows of the early sixties.
5. Were the ONLY Motown group during the Sixties that wrote and produced their own material.
6. Are the ONLY Motown group to have FOUR SONGS inducted into the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME.
7.Are THE MOST COVERED Motown group of ALL TIME (almost 60 of their songs have been covered by other artists , from the Doo-Wop era, right until today, by RAPPERS and contestants on AMERICAN IDOL.
8. Are in the VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME.
9. Recieved a star on THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME.
10. Have been reciepents of the BMI SONGWRITERS' award (all of them...not just Smokey.)
11. Have recieved the RHYTHM and BLUES FOUNDATION'S PIONEER AWARD.
12. Have 3 songs in ROLLING STONE'S list of the 500 GREATEST SONGS of ALL TIME.
13. Were inducted into the original DOO-WOP HALL of FAME.
14. Are the HIGHEST RANKING Motown group on ROLLING STONE'S list of the 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME
15.Under the terms of the National Recording Preservation Act of 2000, the Library's National Recording Preservation Board announced The Miracles' million seller, "Tracks of My Tears" being "culturally, historically, and aesthetically significant" to preserve for all time in the United States Library of Congress.
16. Heck, they even have a STREET and a PARK named after them in their native Detroit.
17. Their success paved the way for ALL OF THE MOTOWN ARTISTS THAT FOLLOWED THEM .
Have 3 songs on THE ROCKand ROLL HALL of FAME'S list of THE 500 SONGS THAT SHAPED ROCK AND ROLL.
18. ON BILLBOARD'S and VH1'S LISTS (1998) of the 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME.
....HOW MANY MORE ACCOPLISHMENTS DOES A GROUP HAVE TO ACHIEVE IN ORDER TO GET INDUCTED ??

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 20:06pm


THE MIRACLES (1955-1965)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That


SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together


THE MIRACLES (1973-1977)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1973 Renaissance
02. 1974 Do It Baby
03. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
04. 1975 City Of Angels
05. 1976 The Power Of Music
06. 1977 Love Crazy

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 20:51pm


THE MIRACLES (1955-1965)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That


SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together


THE MIRACLES (1973-1977)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1973 Renaissance
02. 1974 Do It Baby
03. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
04. 1975 City Of Angels
05. 1976 The Power Of Music
06. 1977 Love Crazy

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.11 @ 20:51pm


***DVD***

(SMOKEY ROBINSON & ) THE MIRACLES

The Definitive Performances (2006)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Definitive_Performances_(1963%E2%80%931987)

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.13.11 @ 21:44pm


William "Smokey" Robinson (ALIVE)
Claudette Rogers (ALIVE)
Warren "Pete" Moore (ALIVE)
Robert "Bobby" Rogers (ALIVE)
Ronald "Ronnie" White (DEAD)
Marvin Tarplin (ALIVE)
Billy Griffin (ALIVE)

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 07:28am


I think if they had inducted them as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles then they couldn't have inducted Billy Griffen with them because he was a members of The Miracles, not Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. When Smokey Robinson was inducted in 1987, it had been only 14 years since Billy Griffin joined The Miracles, but he still could have been inducted with The Miracles if they had been inducted in 1987. The rules state that it's 25 years after the first release of album or single that an artist becomes eligible for induction. It doesn't say a member has to have been with the group for 25 years, or that you have wait 25 years after you joined a group to become eligible. Timothy B. Schmidt was with The Eagles for only 17 years when he was inducted with them. Sammy Hagar was with Van Halen for 22 years when he was inducted with them.

Plus, some are saying that the hits they had as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles were bigger and better than the hits they had as The Miracles.

Also, they say that Claudette wasn't with the group long enough, she didn't sing on all the tracks, she didn't tour or perform in public with the group when she was raising her children, she only appeared on the albums. How the hell does that disqualify her? She is called the first lady of Motown!

Bottom line, they never should have been renamed Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. I'm thinking the Rock Hall is thinking that if they inducted them as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, then the work they did as the Miracles wouldn't count in that induction.

By the way, the album, Make It Happen, from 1967, and the album, Tears Of A Clown, from 1971, are the same album with the same cover, but different title, and they both charted.

This album was actually an example of corporate greed at work; it was only grafting a new title onto an old album. Motown merely reissued Make It Happen with a fresh title to fill the gap as internal problems were preventing the completion of a new Miracles record. Of course, most of the songs were great, since "More Love" and "Love I Saw In You Was Just A Mirage" were among the many fine tunes on the album. But it was just an early example of the label's constant recycling of their hits, which is now standard operating procedure.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 08:04am


THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1977)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That
08. 1973 Renaissance
09. 1974 Do It Baby
10. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
11. 1975 City Of Angels
12. 1976 The Power Of Music
13. 1977 Love Crazy


SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 08:13am


THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

25 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
13 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey & Billy combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson
06 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 08:40am


THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

25 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
13 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey & Billy combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson)
06 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 08:44am


Billy didn't join the group until Smokey left in 1972. They never recorded together. However, Claudette Rogers Robinson was on all of the Miracles' recordings. Even after she stopped touring with the group in 1964, she continued to record with them, until her husband Smokey left.

The Miracles Hollywood Walk Of Fame Report:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4k5zz_B7nU

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 09:39am


The Miracles had SHOP AROUND, YOU'VE REALLY GOT A HOLD ON ME,THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS,GOING TO A GO-GO and MICKEY'S MONKEY, as THE MIRACLES. All of these songs were MILLION-SELLERS.

The MIRACLES should be inducted while most of them are STILL ALIVE. What is the RRHOF waiting for ?

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 09:44am


Billy didn't join the group until Smokey left in 1972. They never recorded together.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 09:39am

Yes, I know. I was just saying that when you combine the number of albums The Miracles produced as The Miracles with Smokey Robinson, and then as The Miracles again with Bill Griffin, you get 13 albums. 7 with Smokey and 6 with Billy.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 16:32pm


Oh,OK, Sorry, Roy. I just didn't understand.Hey..did you know that Billy Griffin also recorded a second album with The Miracles on Columbia after "Love Crazy" ? It was simply entitled "The Miracles" and it came out in 1978. It was the group's final album, and it has a magic lamp on it, and featured the singr "Mean Machine". You can see it HERE:

http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/miracles.html

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 18:00pm


I'm guessing that last album never charted. It's not listed on The Miracles page on Wikipedia either. Do we know the real name of Mean Machine? He obviously won't be inducted.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 21:30pm


THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

26 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
14 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey & Billy combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson)
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That
08. 1973 Renaissance
09. 1974 Do It Baby
10. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
11. 1975 City Of Angels
12. 1976 The Power Of Music
13. 1977 Love Crazy
14. 1978 The Miracles

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.11 @ 21:35pm


"I'm guessing that last album never charted. It's not listed on The Miracles page on Wikipedia either. Do we know the real name of Mean Machine? He obviously won't be inducted."

Sorry, Roy . That was a typo. I meant to say the single "Mean Machine".

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.16.11 @ 04:11am


What is the actual reason why they weren't nominated and inducted as The Miracles in 1987, aside from the fact that the people at the Rock Hall are idiots?

Has there ever been an official statement made by Jann Wenner, Ahmet Ertegun or anyone from the Rock Hall concerning The Miracles?

What is the theory, besides stupidity?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.16.11 @ 10:36am


"What is the actual reason why they weren't nominated and inducted as The Miracles in 1987, aside from the fact that the people at the Rock Hall are idiots?

Has there ever been an official statement made by Jann Wenner, Ahmet Ertegun or anyone from the Rock Hall concerning The Miracles?

What is the theory, besides stupidity?"

Posted by Roy

From the inception of the Rock Hall until today , NO OFFICAL EXPLANTION has ever been given for The Miracles' snub, and NO MEMBER of the Nominating Committee has EVER explained WHY the Miracles have failed to garner EVEN A NOMINATION... EVER.

It's an issue that has been , in effect, swept under the rug...thinking that people simply wouldn't notice,or maybe they thought that inducting Smokey alone would suffice. But The Miracles are too big, too popular, and too influential a group for that to have happened.Music industry insiders, Disc Jockeys, Motown alumni, and Motown and Miracles fans have been protesting this "solo induction" ever since it happened in 1987.

On 2/15/1998, The Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper, in reporting on the Miracles' snub, issued this statment:

"Smokey Robinson was inducted into the Rock Hall as a solo artist in 1987, even though he made his most famous Motown recordings with a band - the Miracles. The other original Miracles - Ronnie White, Bobby Rogers, Pete Moore, Claudette Rogers Robinson and guitarist Marv Tarplin were not inducted. Things can also get confusing when a band is led by a high-profile front man or named after one."

The editors of the website "NOT IN THE HALL OF FAME" recently issued this statement:

"If there is a mantra for the next selection it might simply be “what about the rest of us?”. With the induction of their original lead singer, Smokey Robinson, the Miracle’s quest for induction may have a bigger obstacle facing them any other on this list.


It is hard to argue that Robinson deserved induction. He was certainly the face and voice behind Motown’s very successful band the Miracles, of which he was with from their inception to 1972. However, the key here; is that Smokey is in the Hall as a solo performer; which is a little curious considering the bulk of his success came with the Miracles. With Robinson already in, the rest of the Miracles seem to have been overlooked despite the massive success they achieved. What is sometimes forgotten is that they achieved their biggest hit, Love Machine, occurred five years after Smokey left. One has to wonder if the Hall will look at the group as a whole, as they certainly have every credential to be Cleveland bound."
http://www.notinhalloffame.com/articles.php?article_id=63

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.16.11 @ 11:47am


***I LIKE IT LIKE THAT***
A 1964 SMASH for THE MIRACLES

Check out the group's AWESOME harmonies, Marv Tarplin's guitar...and that CRAZY backbeat !!!

***DYNAMITE!!***

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MskGjP0pEJc

P.S. on the original 45 record, the song is credited to "THE MIRACLES" not Smokey Robinson & The Miracles" .

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.16.11 @ 13:14pm


The song was written by Miracles members Smokey Robinson and Marv Tarplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/Miracles-NM-soul-45-rpm-I-Like-Like-That-Tamla-/300541822649?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item45f9b046b9#ht_500wt_665

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.16.11 @ 13:18pm


****I LIKE IT LIKE THAT****

That song was the title cut of THE MIRACLES' RAREST ALBUM- 1964'S I LIKE IT LIKE THAT, with was withdrawn from the U.S. shortly after it's original release...and released in Europe. A copy has recently surfaced for sale there.
http://cgi.ebay.com/MIRACLES-Like-Like-That-orig-UK-LP-1964-RARE-/110672920231?pt=B%C3%BCcher_Unterhaltung_Music_CDs&hash=item19c49ebea7#ht_945wt_881

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.16.11 @ 15:35pm


***I Like It Like That Album***

Sorry, wrong site . here it is :

http://cgi.ebay.com/MIRACLES-Like-Like-That-orig-UK-LP-1964-RARE-/110672920231?pt=B%C3%BCcher_Unterhaltung_Music_CDs&hash=item19c49ebea7#ht_945wt_881

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.16.11 @ 18:27pm


http://www.hitparadehalloffame.com/artistbios/a2011artist_pages/SmokeyRobinsontheMiracles.html

THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME

Smokey Robinson & the Miracles nominated for the 2011 Hit Parade Hall of Fame. All members mentioned except for Billy Griffin. The 2011 inductees will be announced in January or February of 2012. Strange, but that's how The Hit Parade Hall of Fame operates. They announce the inductees for the previous year, in the following year!

Smokey Robinson & the Miracles bio:

William "Smokey" Robinson was born February 19, 1940 in Detroit, Michigan. He, along with Claudette Rogers , Ronald White, Pete Moore, Bobby Rogers & Marv Tarplin are the original members of The Miracles, a group known as the creators of the “Motown Sound”. The Miracles have sold over 40,000,000 records worldwide, winning numerous Gold and Platinum Record awards along with four
Grammy’s, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and induction into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame and the Doo-Wop Hall of Fame. Starting in 1960, “Shop Around” was the first of eight Gold singles. “You’ve Really Got a Hold on me”, “Mickey’s Monkey”, I second that Emotion”, “Baby, Baby Don’t Cry”, “The Tears of a Clown”, “Love Machine” and “Do It Baby” would follow. As a solo artist, Smokey Robinson added four more Gold records with “Cruisin’”, “Being With You”, “Just To See Her” and “One Heartbeat”. In 1987 Robinson was inducted into the “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame” and honored at the Kennedy Center in 2006.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 07:51am


The Tracks Of My Tears,Going To A Go-Go, and OOO Baby Baby were also million- sellers...verified by Miracle Pete Moore on his corporate website (WBMM Enterprises), and by the reference works Hits Of The Sixties: The Million Sellers by Demitri Coryton & Joseph Murrells, as well as The Book Of Golden Discs- by Joseph Murrells.
http://www.gbelv.com/pete_moore_miracles_facts.html

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 04.18.11 @ 09:37am


Does the Rock Hall know something that we don't? Did the Miracles not really sing on all the albums? Did they lip-synch in concert? Is there some secret being kept? Hush hush!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.19.11 @ 06:46am


Hit after hit . Classic after classic. The most covered Motown group of ALL TIME . The group with the most Grammy Hall of Fame inducted songs of ANY Motown group.

....But they don't deserve induction, but PERCY SLEDGE, THE RONETTES , AND DARLENE LOVE DO ??

Think about it.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.20.11 @ 02:22am


*****THE MIRACLES*****

For over 2 decades , this group has been COMPLETELY IGNORED by the RRHOF Induction Committee...having NOT EVEN BEEN NOMINATED..NOT EVEN ONCE in the entire 26 year history of the RRHOF.

This , despite the fact that their credentials and quality of their recorded output DWARF that of many inducted artists.

Their "influence" factor is through the roof !!

From Wikipedia:

The Miracles, Motown's first group,are far and away,the most covered Motown group of all time. Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world - in every major musical genre - over the last 50 years. Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists.

Among these are:

"Going to a Go-Go" - The Rolling Stones, The Hags, and Secret Affair.
"I Second That Emotion" - Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, José Feliciano.
"(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " - The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's
"If You Can Want" - The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon.
"Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway
"Much Better Off" - J Dilla.
"You've Got The Love I Need" -J Dilla, Raekwon.
"A Legend In Its Own Time" - J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven").
"Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair.
"I Don't Blame You At All"- Rosetta Hightower.
"Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark.
"You're So Fine and Sweet"- The Undertakers.
"I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels.
"Would I Love You"-Len Barry.
"Happy Landing"- The Temptations.
"Special Occasion- Jim Gilstrap.
"I'll Try Something New" - Diana Ross & The Supremes with The Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me")
"My Girl Has Gone" - Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker.
"Yester Love" - Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra.
"The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" - The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques[disambiguation needed]
"Love Machine" - Wham!, Thelma Houston
"Determination" - The Contours.
Choosey Beggar - Chazz Dixon, Debby Boone.
"I've Been Good To You" - Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations.
"Mickey's Monkey" - Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters.
"More Love" - Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb.
"Ooo Baby Baby" - Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature
"Shop Around" - Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, among numerous others.
"The Tears of a Clown" - La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins .
"The Tracks of My Tears " - Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamaría, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others
"Darling Dear" - The Jackson Five.
"Who's Loving You" - The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa.
" You've Really Got a Hold on Me" - Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, and She & Him among many others.
"I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" - The Who, Jimmy James.
"From Head to Toe" - Elvis Costello, Chris Clark
"A Fork in the Road " - Rebbie Jackson
"Way Over There" - The Royal Counts, The Temptations, Edwin Starr, The Marvelettes, New Man, Eddie Adams Jr.
"(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" - Chuck Jackson
"What's So Good About Goodbye" - Giant Sunflower, The Temptations , Quix*O*Tic
"More, More, More of Your Love" - Bob Brady & the Con Chords
"Doggone Right" - Bobby Davis.
"After All" - The Supremes, The Marvelettes.
"Swept For You Baby" - The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby).
"The Hurt is Over" - The DT's
"Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore.
"Save Me" - The Undertones
"(You Can) Depend On Me" - The Temptations, The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway.
"Baby Baby Don't Cry" - Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt.
"Can You Love a Poor Boy" - Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker.
"Bad Girl" - Dazz Band.
"That's What Love Is Made Of" - Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians.
"We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts[disambiguation needed]
"Here I Go Again" - Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones.
"Point It Out"' - The Supremes and The Temptations.
"Got A Job" - The Marcels
"Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" - The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson.
"Give Me Just Another Day" - Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5")
"Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited).
"Who's Gonna Take The Blame" - Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long").

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.20.11 @ 11:59am


Send an email to all the following, explaining why the Miracles should be inducted. Make sure to specify how they should be nominated and inducted (Main Performers Category) and which members have to be inducted.

president at rockhall dot org
mthresher at rockhall dot org
mrutledge at rockhall dot org
suhl at rockhall dot org
ADeCurtis at aol dot com
RockRap at aol dot com (Dave Marsh)

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 11:21am


For crying out loud, The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted 12 members of the Grateful Dead in 1994, including Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the band! That's right, they inducted the lyricist as a member of the band! They inducted a non-performer in the performers category! So, the Rock Hall better induct Marv Tarplin with The Miracles. Marv Tarplin was a member of the Miracles. He was not a sideman.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 11:21am


THE MIRACLES

THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Billy Griffin

THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME NOMINEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marv Tarplin


The 2001 Vocal Group Hall of Fame excludes Marv Tarplin, and I think Billy Griffin, because they were inducted as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. The website does not clearly state which members were inducted.

The 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame excludes Marv Tarplin

The 2011 Hit Parade Hall of Fame excludes Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 11:46am


http://www.vocalgrouphalloffame.com/inductees/smokey_miracles.html

Hey Bill G.

Check the Smokey Robinson and the Miracles page on the Vocal Group Hall of Fame website and tell me who are those two men standing behind Claudette in the picture slideshow from the 2001 ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 11:53am


http://www.walkoffame.com/the-miracles

The new bio page for the Miracles at the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Same bio from 2009, different web address.

Actually, it's only the original Miracles line-up who were inducted. Billy Griffin just attended, but was not inducted, and neither was Marv Tarplin.

Opening line:

The star honorees are the original Miracles' lineup: Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White (posthumously), Pete Moore, Smokey Robinson, and the First Lady of Motown, Claudette Robinson.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 12:16pm


THE MIRACLES

THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME NOMINEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marv Tarplin


The 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame excludes Marv Tarplin and Billy Griffin.

The 2011 Hit Parade Hall of Fame excludes Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 12:20pm


Unlike the Hollywood Walk of Fame, The Rock And Roll Hall of Fame would include Billy Griffin in the induction. They can't ignore Love Machine. It was too big of a hit!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 12:26pm


The 2001 Vocal Group Hall of Fame excludes Marv Tarplin and Billy Griffin.

The 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame excludes Marv Tarplin and Billy Griffin.

The 2011 Hit Parade Hall of Fame excludes Billy Griffin.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 12:28pm


Unlike the Hollywood Walk of Fame, The Rock And Roll Hall of Fame would include Billy Griffin in the induction. They can't ignore Love Machine. It was too big of a hit!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 12:26pm

I agree! Billy G. (Bill G?) for the Hall of Fame!

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 14:51pm


"Hey Bill G.

Check the Smokey Robinson and the Miracles page on the Vocal Group Hall of Fame website and tell me who are those two men standing behind Claudette in the picture slideshow from the 2001 ceremony."

Of course, Roy. to the left of Claudette, is her cousin, Miracles member Bobby Rogers. to the right is Miracle Pete Moore

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 15:32pm


****The MIRACLES*****
The SOUL PATROL website delivered a angry protest over the omissions of MARV TARPLIN and BILLY GRIFFIN from Hollywood Walk Of Fame honors ...after the protest , they decided to include BILLY GRIFFIN, but still excluded MARV TARPLIN, which makes no sense, since MARV was an ORIGINAL MEMBER, while BILLY WASN'T, and he should have been included .

http://www.soul-patrol.com/soul/smokey.htm


Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 20:10pm


The fans weren't too happy about it, either.
From the "SOULFUL DETROIT" website:

http://faac.us/adf/messages/188095/188352.html?1232479416

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 20:16pm


***Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart - The MIRACLES***

A 1966 hit from Motown's first group.

It kicks !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoypnyD-v-U

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.23.11 @ 01:00am


Billy Griffin also sang lead on another million-selling Miracles single, 1974's "DO IT BABY"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WgziMo9Q7U

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 04.25.11 @ 01:40am


****DO IT BABY****
The Miracles with Billy Griffin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_It_Baby

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 04.25.11 @ 01:42am


http://www.futurerocklegends.com/Nominating_Committee.php

The people responsible for not inducting The Miracles as The Miracles in 1987

You would think these people would know what to do

The 1986 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee

Ahmet Ertegun
John Hammond
Bob Hilburn
Bob Krasnow
Kurt Loder
Norm N. Nite
Nile Rodgers
Seymour Stein
Jann Wenner
Jerry Wexler

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.28.11 @ 07:24am


New York City's newspaper, The Village Voice, in its issue of October 30, 2009, in reporting on the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame's 25th Anniversary Concert, stated in an interview with Smokey, that he expressed "regret" that the rest of The Miracles weren't inducted into the Hall Of Fame with him. In December, 2010, Goldmine, the famous oldies music magazine, in its continuing series on "Artists Who Should be in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, But Are Not", focused on The Miracles, Marvelettes, and Mary Wells. About The Miracles, author Phill Marder stated :"If the Supremes got in with Diana Ross and the Vandellas made it in with Martha Reeves and the three other Tops made it in with Levi Stubbs, how could the Miracles, who were much more important, not get in with Smokey?

*****GOOD QUESTION*****
**AMAZON.COM RHYTHM AND BLUES DISCUSSION FORUM:**

"Do you think that THE MIRACLES should be inducted into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME ?"
http://www.amazon.com/tag/rhythm%20and%20blues/forum?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx96T5CZYCDQKK&cdThread=Tx2IUOLQ1YJKED9

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.29.11 @ 02:05am


MOTOWN GROUPS with songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME:

THE MIRACLES: FOUR.

1.Shop Around
2.The Tears Of A Clown
3.The Tracks Of My Tears
4.You've Really Got A Hold On Me

THE SUPREMES: THREE.

1.Stop In The Name Of Love
2.Where Did Our Love Go
3.You Keep Me Hanging On

THE TEMPTATIONS: TWO.

1.My Girl
2.Papa Was A Rolling Stone

THE FOUR TOPS: ONE.

1.Reach Out I'll Be There

MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS: ONE

1.Dancing In The Street

GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS: ONE

1.Midnight Train To Georgia*

THE JACKSON FIVE:ONE

1. I Want You Back

*Recorded after the group left the Motown label.

THE SUPREMES: INDUCTED
THE TEMPTATIONS:INDUCTED
MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS: INDUCTED
GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS: INDUCTED
THE JACKSON FIVE: INDUCTED
THE FOUR TOPS: INDUCTED

** THE MIRACLES: N O T I N D U C T E D **

....and not EVEN NOMINATED, EVEN ONCE, IN OVER 25 YEARS!!






Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.30.11 @ 02:16am


It is indeed a travesty that the people that The MIracles WROTE FOR are in the Hall, but they are not . The RRHOF has even gone so far as to put one of Bobby Rogers' SUITS in the Hall of Fame ....at their 50th Anniversary Motown exhibit...can you believe THAT ??? HIS SUIT !!! They have the unmitigated NERVE to put the Miracles SONGS in the Hall Of Fame, their CLOTHES in the Hall of Fame...their LEAD SINGER in the Hall of Fame .... the PEOPLE THEY WROTE SONGS FOR in the Hall of Fame....BUT NOT THEM !!! What an insult !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.30.11 @ 02:36am


Their induction better not be an addendum to Smokey Robinson's 1987 induction, and Smokey Robinson better be included with The Miracles when they are inducted as The Miracles, and nothing else. Their trophies better read 20??, not 1987.

How many of you would be upset if it was an addendum?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.30.11 @ 06:44am


I'd be VERY UPSET, Roy, because the RRHOF should have NEVER committed this travesty in the first place.

***Billy Griffin's Bio***

From the "Soulwalking U.K. Website:

http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/billy%20griffin.html

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 05.1.11 @ 14:49pm


How about this, Adding them to Smokey's induction, and having a thing at the ceremony along the other inductees that year.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 05.1.11 @ 16:03pm



The Miracles deserve the SAME induction that everybody else got ...plus a PUBLIC APOLOGY for having been ignored all of these years. No addendums, no inducting some members while ignoring others, no politics , no "sidemen" inductions,no political foolishness. A REAL INDUCTION...IN THE MAIN PERFORMERS CATEGORY. Motown's FIRST GROUP DESERVES IT !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 09:38am


THE MIRACLES

William "Smokey" Robinson
Claudette Rogers
Warren "Pete" Moore
Robert "Bobby" Rogers
Ronald "Ronnie" White
Marvin Tarplin
Billy Griffin

THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

26 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
14 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey & Billy combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson)
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

13 Hits as The Miracles
13 Hits as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That
08. 1973 Renaissance
09. 1974 Do It Baby
10. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
11. 1975 City Of Angels
12. 1976 The Power Of Music
13. 1977 Love Crazy
14. 1978 The Miracles

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

SINGLES

01. 1961 Ain't It Baby
02. 1961 Shop Around
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 A Love She Can Count On
05. 1963 Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 You've Really Got a Hold on Me
07. 1964 (You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man in You
08. 1965 Come on Do the Jerk
09. 1973 Don't Let It End ('Til You Let It Begin)
10. 1974 Do It Baby
11. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
12. 1975 Love Machine
13. 1977 Spy for Brotherhood

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

01. 1965 My Girl Has Gone
02. 1965 Ooo Baby Baby
03. 1965 The Tracks of My Tears
04. 1966 (Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need
05. 1966 Choosey Beggar
06. 1966 Going to a Go-Go
07. 1966 Whole Lot of Shakin' in My Heart (Since I Met You)
08. 1967 I Second That Emotion
09. 1967 More Love
10. 1967 The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage
11. 1969 Abraham, Martin and John
12. 1969 Here I Go Again
13. 1970 Tears of a Clown

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 10:49am


The miracles may need inducting, but Smokey's solo career dosen't, and your idea supports that.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 10:55am


The Inductees

01. 1997 The (Young) Rascals
02. 1997 Parliament-Funkadelic
03. 20?? The Miracles

No confusion there, and they both just happened to get inducted in the same year. They started out as The Rascals, and then they changed their name to The Young Rascals, and they get inducted as The (Young) Rascals. This was an induction for their entire body of work, both, as The Rascals and The Young Rascals. Same thing with Parliament-Funkadelic, but different story. Two bands with the same members producing albums at the same time, but under different names.

So inducting The Miracles as The Miracles would count their entire body of work in the induction, including the work produced as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, since Smokey Robinson was a Miracle to begin with!

Don't expect to see them being inducted as The Miracles/Smokey Robinson & The Miracles! That would be extremely stupid!

Joy Division/New Order is next!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 11:25am


Hey Bill, did you send emails to those Rock Hall people I listed above?

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 11:27am


No, Roy, not yet. I'm trying to think of a way to present The Miracles' case in such a way so that they won't think I'm angry at them for ignoring the group all these years.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.3.11 @ 00:14am


Also...does anyone have Bob Hilburn's e-mail address? He said in a separate blog that he was going to suggest The Miracles for nomination 2 years ago...I'd like to contact him also. Again, many thanks again, Roy. I'm going to prepare a standard e-mail recommending the Miracles to all of these people...and I've also sent the emails you gave me to people on several other Deejays and other industry people.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 13:48pm


Send an email to all the following, explaining why the Miracles should be inducted. Make sure to specify how they should be nominated and inducted (Main Performers Category) and which members have to be inducted.

president at rockhall dot org (Terry Stewart)
mthresher at rockhall dot org
mrutledge at rockhall dot org
suhl at rockhall dot org
ADeCurtis at aol dot com (Anthony DeCurtis)
RockRap at aol dot com (Dave Marsh)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 15:16pm


http://www.roberthilburnonline.com/index.html

robert dot hilburn at gmail dot com

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 15:29pm


Also...does anyone have Bob Hilburn's e-mail address? He said in a separate blog that he was going to suggest The Miracles for nomination 2 years ago

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 13:48pm

robert dot hilburn at gmail dot com

Do you have the link to the page where Hilburn talks about the Miracles?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 15:43pm


NOMINATE AND INDUCT THE MIRACLES INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (MAIN PERFORMERS CATEGORY)

THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson (ALIVE)
02. Warren "Pete" Moore (ALIVE)
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers (ALIVE)
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White (DEAD)
05. Claudette Rogers (ALIVE)
06. Marvin Tarplin (ALIVE)
07. Billy Griffin (ALIVE)

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)
THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 20?? ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (The Miracles)

The Miracles started out as The Miracles. They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years. Then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown. The Miracles have to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles in the main performers category, NOT THE SIDEMEN CATEGORY!! and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well!! No one would get hurt if Smokey Robinson is inducted with The Miracles. No laws would be broken. Consider Smokey Robinson's 1987 induction an early induction for his solo career, or admit that the Rock Hall made a mistake by not nominating and inducting The Miracles as The Miracles in 1987. Inducting the group as The Miracles (not Smokey Robinson & The Miracles) would also allow for the induction of Smokey Robinson's replacement, Billy Griffin.

Example:

The Inductees

01. 1997 The (Young) Rascals
02. 1997 Parliament-Funkadelic

No confusion there, and they both just happened to get inducted in the same year. They started out as The Rascals, and then they changed their name to The Young Rascals, and they get inducted as The (Young) Rascals. This was an induction for their entire body of work, both, as The Rascals and The Young Rascals. Same thing with Parliament-Funkadelic, but different story. Two bands with the same members producing albums at the same time, but under different names. So inducting The Miracles as The Miracles would count their entire body of work in the induction, including the work produced as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, since Smokey Robinson was a Miracle to begin with!

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted 12 members of the Grateful Dead in 1994, including Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the band! That's right, they inducted the lyricist as a member of the band! They inducted a non-performer in the performers category! So, the Rock Hall better induct Marvin Tarplin with The Miracles. Marvin Tarplin was a member of the Miracles. He was not a sideman. He was their guitarist and songwriter.

DON'T DO WHAT THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME, OR THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME, OR THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME DID!

THE MIRACLES

THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin

THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

26 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
14 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey & Billy combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson)
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

13 Hits as The Miracles
13 Hits as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That
08. 1973 Renaissance
09. 1974 Do It Baby
10. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
11. 1975 City Of Angels
12. 1976 The Power Of Music
13. 1977 Love Crazy
14. 1978 The Miracles

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

SINGLES

01. 1961 Ain't It Baby
02. 1961 Shop Around
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 A Love She Can Count On
05. 1963 Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 You've Really Got a Hold on Me
07. 1964 (You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man in You
08. 1965 Come on Do the Jerk
09. 1973 Don't Let It End ('Til You Let It Begin)
10. 1974 Do It Baby
11. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
12. 1975 Love Machine
13. 1977 Spy for Brotherhood

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

01. 1965 My Girl Has Gone
02. 1965 Ooo Baby Baby
03. 1965 The Tracks of My Tears
04. 1966 (Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need
05. 1966 Choosey Beggar
06. 1966 Going to a Go-Go
07. 1966 Whole Lot of Shakin' in My Heart (Since I Met You)
08. 1967 I Second That Emotion
09. 1967 More Love
10. 1967 The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage
11. 1969 Abraham, Martin and John
12. 1969 Here I Go Again
13. 1970 Tears of a Clown

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 18:00pm


Here's the link, Roy.

http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1092/2009-Inductees-To-The-R-amp-RHoF?page=2

When you get there , you'll see that all of the comments are numbered. scroll down to comment # 22.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 22:50pm


It is on Charles Crossley's 2009 RRHOF blog page. Heres the quote:

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In a few weeks I will have my final list on acts not yet in the HoF and some of it is already surprising me(let alone probably some of you),but I will address people who are not in the HoF while some of their partners are (E. Street Band for example) and I'll say that The Miracles should be in the HoF,Smokey didn't do it alone and they are vastly more important than any post 1965 act is."

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 22:51pm


NOMINATE AND INDUCT THE MIRACLES INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (MAIN PERFORMERS CATEGORY)

THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson (ALIVE)
02. Warren "Pete" Moore (ALIVE)
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers (ALIVE)
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White (DEAD)
05. Claudette Rogers (ALIVE)
06. Marvin Tarplin (ALIVE)
07. Billy Griffin (ALIVE)

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)
THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 20?? ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (The Miracles)

The Miracles started out as The Miracles. They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years. Then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown. The Miracles have to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles in the main performers category, NOT THE SIDEMEN CATEGORY!! and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well!! No one would get hurt if Smokey Robinson is inducted with The Miracles. No laws would be broken. Consider Smokey Robinson's 1987 induction an early induction for his solo career, or admit that the Rock Hall made a mistake by not nominating and inducting The Miracles as The Miracles in 1987. Inducting the group as The Miracles (not Smokey Robinson & The Miracles) would also allow for the induction of Smokey Robinson's replacement, Billy Griffin.

Example:

The Inductees

01. 1997 The (Young) Rascals
02. 1997 Parliament-Funkadelic

No confusion there, and they both just happened to get inducted in the same year. They started out as The Rascals, and then they changed their name to The Young Rascals, and they get inducted as The (Young) Rascals. This was an induction for their entire body of work, both, as The Rascals and The Young Rascals. Same thing with Parliament-Funkadelic, but different story. Two bands with the same members producing albums at the same time, but under different names. So inducting The Miracles as The Miracles would count their entire body of work in the induction, including the work produced as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, since Smokey Robinson was a Miracle to begin with!

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted 12 members of the Grateful Dead in 1994, including Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the band! That's right, they inducted the lyricist as a member of the band! They inducted a non-performer in the performers category! So, the Rock Hall better induct Marvin Tarplin with The Miracles. Marvin Tarplin was a member of the Miracles. He was not a sideman. He was their guitarist and songwriter.

DON'T DO WHAT THE VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME, OR THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME, OR THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME DID!

THE MIRACLES

THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin

THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

26 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
14 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey & Billy combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson)
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

13 Hits as The Miracles
13 Hits as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That
08. 1973 Renaissance
09. 1974 Do It Baby
10. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
11. 1975 City Of Angels
12. 1976 The Power Of Music
13. 1977 Love Crazy
14. 1978 The Miracles

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

SINGLES

01. 1961 Ain't It Baby
02. 1961 Shop Around
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 A Love She Can Count On
05. 1963 Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 You've Really Got a Hold on Me
07. 1964 (You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man in You
08. 1965 Come on Do the Jerk
09. 1973 Don't Let It End ('Til You Let It Begin)
10. 1974 Do It Baby
11. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
12. 1975 Love Machine
13. 1977 Spy for Brotherhood

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

SINGLES

01. 1965 My Girl Has Gone
02. 1965 Ooo Baby Baby
03. 1965 The Tracks of My Tears
04. 1966 (Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need
05. 1966 Choosey Beggar
06. 1966 Going to a Go-Go
07. 1966 Whole Lot of Shakin' in My Heart (Since I Met You)
08. 1967 I Second That Emotion
09. 1967 More Love
10. 1967 The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage
11. 1969 Abraham, Martin and John
12. 1969 Here I Go Again
13. 1970 Tears of a Clown

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.11.11 @ 06:22am


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1092/2009-Inductees-To-The-R-amp-RHoF?page=1

When the R&RHoF first started, if someone's name was separate from the rest of the group, the nominators tended to nominate the "main person" rather than the whole group.

STUPID!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.11.11 @ 06:34am


*** MOTOWN 50TH ANNIVERSARY: MIRACLES TRIBUTE ***
http://www.bordersmedia.com/motown/smokey.asp

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 05.11.11 @ 21:21pm


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Posted by weterynarz_warszawa

[translation] " INDUCT THE MIRACLES INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME IN 2012" !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.12.11 @ 01:31am


Hey. Are you related to Zitzbath Zark from the Upper Martian Colonies ? I hear The Miracles are big up there .

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.12.11 @ 01:35am


****The Miracles' relationship map****

http://www.muckety.com/Miracles/5023522.muckety

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 05.13.11 @ 09:30am


If BERRY GORDY was on the Induction Committee, THE MIRACLES would have been inducted years ago. He KNOWS how important they were to the formation of his company.Smokey , as an inductee, now has voting power.He also knows about the historical importance of his group.
Do the right thing, Smoke !!

Phil Spector has friends on the Committee. That is the only possible explanation why two of his artists, Darlene Love and The Ronettes , got inducted, Yet , 2 similar Motown artists, The MARVELETTES, and MARY WELLS, both have accomplishments that DWARF those of the 2 SPECTOR artists...but they have yet to be inducted.
Case in point: THE MARVELETTES have had over 3 TIMES the chart hits of the RONETTES, and , as MOTOWN'S first successful girl group, are more influential to boot.They opened the doors for The Supremes and The Vandellas , both of whom are now inducted, but the Marvelettes are not. They also had Motown's first # 1 Pop hit, "Please Mr. Postman" (tell me that didn't influence The Carpenters).
Mary Wells influenced every female pop and R&B singer of the era, and The Beatles stated publicly that she was their favorite American singer.

The Miracles, Marvelettes , and Mary Wells, the 3M's of Motown, all should have been inducted YEARS AGO.But two lesser stature Spector artists are in. It just proves ...it's not what you know...but WHO you know.

http://www.goldminemag.com/blogs/mary-miracles-marvelettes-motowns-missing-from-rock-hall#comments

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 05.14.11 @ 14:27pm


"Without THE MIRACLES, Motown would NOT be the Motown it is today."
- Berry Gordy Jr, speaking at The Miracles Hollywood Walk Of Fame Star Ceremony,March 20th,2009.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 05.14.11 @ 14:42pm


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1515/The-Miracles

The Miracles thread on Our Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05.20.11 @ 07:08am


The Miracles

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

The Miracles started out as The Miracles. They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years, and then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, and then they became The Miracles again. The Miracles were Motown's first group. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown. The Miracles have to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles, and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well. Inducting the group as The Miracles (not Smokey Robinson & The Miracles) would also allow for the induction of Smokey Robinson's replacement, Billy Griffin.

The Rascals changed their name to The Young Rascals, and they were inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame as The (Young) Rascals. This was an induction for their entire body of work, both, as The Rascals and The Young Rascals. Same thing with Parliament-Funkadelic, but different story. Two bands with the same members producing albums at the same time, but under different names. So inducting The Miracles as The Miracles would count their entire body of work in the induction, including the work produced as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, since Smokey Robinson was a Miracle to begin with!

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted 12 members of the Grateful Dead in 1994, including Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the band! That's right, they inducted the lyricist as a member of the band! They inducted a non-performer in the performers category! So, the Rock Hall better induct Marvin Tarplin with The Miracles. Marvin Tarplin was a member of the Miracles. He was not a sideman. He was their guitarist and songwriter.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.25.11 @ 22:09pm


Not only that , but MARV TARPLIN was pictured on their album covers...and was listed on their very first album, HI, WE'RE THE MIRACLES, as an original group member.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marv_Tarplin

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.26.11 @ 00:07am


The Miracles

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

The Miracles started out as The Miracles. They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years, and then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles for 7 years, and then they became The Miracles again for 5 more years. The Miracles were Motown's first group. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown. The Miracles have to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles, and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well. Inducting the group as The Miracles (not Smokey Robinson & The Miracles) would also allow for the induction of Smokey Robinson's replacement, Billy Griffin.

The Rascals changed their name to The Young Rascals, and they were inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame as The (Young) Rascals. This was an induction for their entire body of work, both, as The Rascals and The Young Rascals. So inducting The Miracles as The Miracles would count their entire body of work in the induction, including the work produced as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, since Smokey Robinson was a Miracle to begin with!

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted 12 members of the Grateful Dead in 1994, including Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the band! That's right, they inducted the lyricist as a member of the band! They inducted a non-performer in the performers category! So, the Rock Hall better induct Marvin Tarplin with The Miracles. Marvin Tarplin was a member of the Miracles. He was not a sideman. He was their guitarist and songwriter.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.26.11 @ 07:17am


Good news. I just found out today that, though he was not present at the Hollywood Walk of Fame Induction on March 20th 2009, Marv Tarplin did indeed, get his star , as the other Miracles did.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.26.11 @ 20:20pm


Where's or who's your source?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.26.11 @ 21:22pm


I talked to Jeanne Sorensen yesterday. She works for The Miracles Organization, and is in regular touch with Marv,Claudette, and Bobby .She books shows for the current Miracles group,and is in charge of their website,originalmiracles@sbcglobal.net. We have been working together on ways to get TheMiracles into consideration for RRHOF nomination in 2012

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 05.27.11 @ 11:56am


Jeanne is good friends with Marv, and talks to him on a regular basis.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 05.29.11 @ 11:46am


So why does the Hollywood Walk of Fame biography say that only the original members of The Miracles were actually inducted.

Quote

The star honorees are the original Miracles' lineup: Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White (posthumously), Pete Moore, Smokey Robinson, and the First Lady of Motown, Claudette Robinson.

Marv Tarplin and Billy Griffin were in attendance but not inducted.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.29.11 @ 12:23pm


Could you ask Jeanne Sorensen if she knows whether or not Marv Tarplin and Billy Griffin were inducted with the rest of The Miracles into The Vocal Group Hall Of Fame. Their website does not state exactly which members were inducted. The others were obviously inducted, but not clear on Marv Tarplin and Billy Griffin.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.29.11 @ 16:25pm


The editors of the SOUL PATROL website reported 2 years ago that MARV and BILLY were originally excluded.The other Miracles protested this.Obviously the decision by the Hollywood Chamber Of Commerce was reversed, because Billy was present to get his star, and Marv got one too, although I dont know exactly when he recieved it. I'll contact Jeanne and get back to you.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 05.30.11 @ 03:22am


Don't forget to ask if Marvin Tarplin and Billy Griffin were inducted with the rest of the Miracles into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05.31.11 @ 06:33am


Will do, Roy !

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.31.11 @ 22:46pm


Roy: Jeanne wants you to contact her . The E-Mail address is : originalmiracles@sbcglobal.net

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 06.3.11 @ 09:32am


I emailed her with all the emails of all the people from the Rock Hall. I'm guessing that's what you two were up to since you didn't answer my question about the Vocal Group Hall of Fame inductees. I asked her in a separate email. I also emailed her that whole list of Miracles members who have to be inducted and why, the albums, the singles, the comparisons to The Young Rascals and The Grateful Dead. Plus the category they have to be inducted in.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06.3.11 @ 22:59pm


I didn't answer, because she told me check on it and get back to me. She wasn't sure at the time . She said she'd let me know soon. She is personally acquainted with all of the surviving Miracles, and talks to Marv , Bobby, and Claudette on a regular basis.She also knows Smokey, Pete, and Billy Griffin.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 06.3.11 @ 23:20pm


....That's how I found out that Marv got his HWoF star....because Marv told her.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 06.3.11 @ 23:23pm


****The MIRACLES on THE T.A.M.I SHOW (1964)****
SMOKEY ROBINSON, BOBBY ROGERS,PETE MOORE, RONNIE WHITE, and MARV TARPLIN rock the house at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhKbHbX2O7o&feature=fvsr

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 06.5.11 @ 09:52am


*****THE MIRACLES "DO IT BABY"*****

Featuring Billy Griffin: A 1974 Million- Seller-on Soul Train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZsu-Uv27tA&feature=related

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 06.10.11 @ 23:38pm


****The MIRACLES:OOO BABY BABY****
Live on Britain's READY STEADY GO (1965)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RDUYOSpH9w

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.11.11 @ 00:10am


****THE MIRACLES****
Songs featuring Claudette Robinson on lead (with Smokey singing background)
"My Heart Says Yes" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDPxZVkyAik

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.11.11 @ 00:17am


****THE MIRACLES****
Songs featuring Claudette Robinson on lead (with Smokey singing background)
"Mr Misery" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAQk1BKSLcs

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.11.11 @ 00:18am


****THE MIRACLES****
Songs featuring Claudette Robinson on lead (with Smokey singing background)- "Wah Watusi" (cover of The Orlons hit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjFeIUUh9tg&feature=related

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.11.11 @ 00:23am


****THE MIRACLES****
Songs featuring Claudette Robinson on lead (with Smokey singing background)- "After All" (1962)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMQiNTG-Bg4&feature=related

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.11.11 @ 00:25am


****THE MIRACLES****
Songs featuring Claudette Robinson on lead (with Smokey singing background) "Father Dear" (1962)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d3gvYU1IbA&feature=related

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.11.11 @ 00:29am


****THE MIRACLES****
Songs featuring Claudette Robinson on lead (with Smokey singing background)
"Mr Misery" (alternate take)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZblLn2HrT1Y

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.11.11 @ 00:38am


*****THE MIRACLES****
Claudette Robinson makeover
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1065637193898

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 06.11.11 @ 00:41am


****The MIRACLES- "ALL I WANT IS YOU"****

A 1959 DOO-WOP hit...A Motown/ Berry Gordy Production...released on CHESS RECORDS. (Note Marv Tarplin's guitar work). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHRD-6aFxb4&feature=channel_video_title
This song also appears on the album "The MIRACLES GREATEST HITS FROM THE BEGINNING".

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 06.12.11 @ 18:18pm


*****The MIRACLES*****

A History in Pictures- http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/Miracles.html

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 06.14.11 @ 13:26pm


....yer welcome, Treadmill !

*****THE MIRACLES*****
(Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need" Bilingual Italian-English remix
The single peaked at number 17 on the Billboard Hot 100, and at number four on Billboard's R&B singles chart. It was also a Top 20 hit in England, but not until February 1971, when it peaked at number 13. "(Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need" was the most successful single featured on their album Away We a Go-Go, and has been covered by acts such as The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, and The GP's .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi_cKozEg40

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 06.26.11 @ 22:27pm


This was the group's last single release as "THE MIRACLES" before Smokey got top billing .

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 06.26.11 @ 22:29pm


Could 2012 be the year for The Miracles?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 07.7.11 @ 07:49am


Hope so. A lot of recent events have been happening that are bringing attention to the group.
Smokey was interviewed on On Saturday, June 18, 2011, at the
Roll Hall of Fame Museum’s Foster Theater. During the interview, Smokey said that he has been
actively campaigning for the induction of ALL of the Miracles into the Rock n
Roll Hall of Fame.The video was streamed live on The Rock Hall website that day.3 members of the Nominating Committee were in attendance, and 1 of them , Dr. Lauren Onkey,the Rock Hall’s Vice President of Education and Public Programs, actually conducted the interview. Her response to Smokey was : "I second THAT emotion ".

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 07.8.11 @ 18:10pm


I hope he specified how they should be nominated and inducted (The Miracles) in the main performers category, and which members. As if the Rock Hall doesn't know.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.8.11 @ 21:33pm


http://rockhall.com/event/Smokey/live/

Smokey was interviewed on On Saturday, June 18, 2011, at the Roll Hall of Fame Museum’s Foster Theater. During the interview, Smokey said that he has been actively campaigning for the induction of ALL of the Miracles into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.The video was streamed live on The Rock Hall website that day. 3 members of the Nominating Committee were in attendance, and 1 of them, Dr. Lauren Onkey, the Rock Hall’s Vice President of Education and Public Programs, actually conducted the interview. Her response to Smokey was : "I second THAT emotion ".

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 07.9.11 @ 06:30am


***The MIRACLES HONORED on THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME*** http://thescoopla.com/1215/honors-on-the-hollywood-walk-of-fame

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.9.11 @ 21:55pm


When the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame first started, if someone's name was separate from the rest of the group, the nominators tended to nominate the main person rather than the whole group.

STUPID!

The Supremes, The Temptations, The Four Tops were all inducted! Why not The Miracles?

The Miracles should have been inducted in 1987 as the Miracles, not as Smokey Robinson. To this day, still no Miracles in the Rock Hall, but 2012 could be the year.

The Miracles

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

The Miracles started out as The Miracles. They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years, and then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles for 7 years, and then they became The Miracles again for 5 more years. The Miracles were Motown's first group. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown. The Miracles have to be nominated and inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles, (in the main performers category; not the sidemen category) and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well. Inducting the group as The Miracles (not Smokey Robinson & The Miracles) would also allow for the induction of Smokey Robinson's replacement, Billy Griffin.

The Rascals changed their name to The Young Rascals, and they were inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame as The (Young) Rascals. This was an induction for their entire body of work, both, as The Rascals and The Young Rascals. So inducting The Miracles as The Miracles would count their entire body of work in the induction, including the work produced as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, since Smokey Robinson was a Miracle to begin with!

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted 12 members of the Grateful Dead in 1994, including Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the band! That's right, they inducted the lyricist as a member of the band! They inducted a non-performer in the performers category! So, the Rock Hall better induct Marvin Tarplin with The Miracles. Marvin Tarplin was a member of the Miracles. He was not a sideman. He was their guitarist and songwriter.

THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

26 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
14 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey & Billy combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson)
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

13 Hits as The Miracles
13 Hits as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That
08. 1973 Renaissance
09. 1974 Do It Baby
10. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
11. 1975 City Of Angels
12. 1976 The Power Of Music
13. 1977 Love Crazy
14. 1978 The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

SINGLES

01. 1961 Ain't It Baby
02. 1961 Shop Around
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 A Love She Can Count On
05. 1963 Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 You've Really Got a Hold on Me
07. 1964 (You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man in You
08. 1965 Come on Do the Jerk
09. 1973 Don't Let It End ('Til You Let It Begin)
10. 1974 Do It Baby
11. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
12. 1975 Love Machine
13. 1977 Spy for Brotherhood

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

SINGLES

01. 1965 My Girl Has Gone
02. 1965 Ooo Baby Baby
03. 1965 The Tracks of My Tears
04. 1966 (Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need
05. 1966 Choosey Beggar
06. 1966 Going to a Go-Go
07. 1966 Whole Lot of Shakin' in My Heart (Since I Met You)
08. 1967 I Second That Emotion
09. 1967 More Love
10. 1967 The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage
11. 1969 Abraham, Martin and John
12. 1969 Here I Go Again
13. 1970 Tears of a Clown


THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson (ALIVE)
02. Warren "Pete" Moore (ALIVE)
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers (ALIVE)
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White (DEAD)
05. Claudette Rogers (ALIVE)
06. Marvin Tarplin (ALIVE)
07. Billy Griffin (ALIVE)

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)
THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 20?? ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (The Miracles)


THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin


The people responsible for not nominating and inducting The Miracles as The Miracles in 1987

You would think these people would know what to do

The 1986 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee

Ahmet Ertegun
John Hammond
Bob Hilburn
Bob Krasnow
Kurt Loder
Norm N. Nite
Nile Rodgers
Seymour Stein
Jann Wenner
Jerry Wexler


In an interview with SOUL PATROL Claudette Rogers Robinson of THE MIRACLES stated the following:

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame may feel that The Miracles are in the hall of fame because of the fact that Smokey was inducted in 1987. Robert (Bobby) Rogers (a member of the Miracles) has spoken to some of the board members of the Hall of Fame, and they said The Miracles are already in there, and Bobby said no we're not! Maybe Smokey was inducted because of his songwriting. There is no envy. We'll have to wait and see what happens.


Smokey was interviewed on On Saturday, June 18, 2011, at the Roll Hall of Fame Museum’s Foster Theater. During the interview, Smokey said that he has been actively campaigning for the induction of ALL of the Miracles into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.The video was streamed live on The Rock Hall website that day. 3 members of the Nominating Committee were in attendance, and 1 of them, Dr. Lauren Onkey, the Rock Hall’s Vice President of Education and Public Programs, actually conducted the interview. Her response to Smokey was : "I second THAT emotion ".


The First R&RHoF Screw-Up Started with the First Group Inducted - Where's Bobby Nunn and Leon Hughes of the Coasters?

The Inductees

The Coasters

Carl Gardner
Cornell Gunter
Billy Guy
Will "Dub" Jones

Not Inducted

Bobby Nunn
Leon Hughes

Here's some trivia everyone on this board probably knows - the first group inducted into the R&RHoF were the Coasters in 1987.

Now, by "screw-up", I'm not talking about snubbing a group over and over and over and over. If that were a screw-up, there would be a few hundred screw-ups by the second year, and the R&RHoF would never recover.

No, by "screw-up", I mean they either failed to induct all the important members of a group, they forgot to induct a group along with its lead singer, or they inducted someone in one category when it was far more appropriate to induct them in another category.

Now, of the Coasters' songs, how many people here feel "Searchin'" (#3 in 1957) and "Young Blood" (#8 in 1957) were important songs? I mean, yes, we're only talking about two songs, and one could say we're only talking about one single, since both songs were on each side of what was called a "double A side" single. Well, consider this: after the fragmentation of the Robins, when Bobby Nunn and Leon Hughes joined Carl Gardner and Billy Guy to form the Coasters, the Coasters recorded a number of songs, mostly if not entirely Leiber and Stoller songs. None of them really broke through until "Searchin'" and "Young Blood" both went top ten. "Searchin'" and "Young Blood" put the Coasters on the map. It's from those two songs that all the other songs sprung. And Nunn and Hughes were on those two songs, as well as all their hits prior.

And Nunn and Hughes left the group after those two songs, replaced by Cornell Gunter and Will "Dub" Jones joined the group. Gardner, Guy, Gunter and Jones had top ten hits with "Yakety Yak", "Charlie Brown", "Along Came Jones" and "Poison Ivy". Well, I'm not sure if Jones was with the group for "Yakety Yak", but he was definitely there by "Charlie Brown."

Gardner, Guy, Gunter and Jones were the only ones inducted. Nunn and Hughes were not.

This wouldn't happen nowadays. Nowadays, every member present during important recordings is inducted. Well, unless the group has 100 members like Parliament-Funkadelic did, which then they turn it over to an expert to help them sort out who should be inducted (16 members were chosen to be inducted).

This issue becomes important when one considers that the only one of the six of these guys who is still alive is Leon Hughes. The rest are all dead.

So when you talk of the Miracles or the Midnighters or the Crickets or the Comets or Bruce Johnston or Gram Parsons or Bob Welch or Ronnie James Dio or whoever else you want to talk about, please also remember Bobby Nunn and Leon Hughes of the Coasters.

They were unfortunately the first.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 07.10.11 @ 22:59pm


Roy, how come you keep bringing the same thing up about the Miracles? We all know they should have been inducted with Smokey.

Posted by Brian on Sunday, 07.10.11 @ 23:31pm


The problem isn't that they should have been inducted....the problem is that they weren't. Motown's first group deserves much better that to be simply relegated to the footnotes of history, while numerous much-less-deserving artists get inducted year after year.
It would have been much different if Smokey had the bulk of his greatest success as a solo artist. the fact is, he didn't. The bulk of his greatest success was as a member of The Miracles....and EVERY MEMBER OF THAT GROUP was responsible for that success, not just him.
The RRHOF really needs to seriously re- evaluate the decision they made regarding The Miracles in 1987. The Miracles deserve that.
Smokey and Bobby are each 71. Claudette is 68. Marv is 70. Pete will be 72 in November, 2011.Ronnie has already left us, and Billy Griffin,has got to be nearing 61.

Let's hope they get inducted while the the majority of the group's members are still alive.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 07.11.11 @ 02:49am


Also, The BELMONTS , Fred Milano, Angelo D'Aleo,& Carlo Mastrangelo,weren't inducted with Dion,The FAMOUS FLAMES, Bobby Bennett,Johnny Terry, Lloyd Stallworth, and the late great Bobby Byrd, weren't inducted with James Brown,Bill Isles (an original member,who sang with the group for the first 7 years) wasn't inducted with The O'Jays, and Joe Long was not inducted with The Four Seasons (despite the fact that he was on some of the group's biggest hits.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 07.11.11 @ 16:41pm


Also, while I'm venting, consider this:
How can THE MIRACLES be on of Rolling Stone's Top 50 IMMORTALS,yet at the same time, not be inducted ?

Or, even NOMINATED...not EVEN ONCE...IN OVER 25 YEARS.
It is NOT simply "all about Smokey". Even HE knows it. That's why he's been actively campaigning to get the Miracles in as a GROUP.
Bravo to you,Smoke! Let's hope they get in.
****THE MIRACLES IN 2012****

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 07.12.11 @ 10:23am


Like Roy said, I think that the MIRACLES should get in as MAIN PERFORMERS...NOT SIDEMEN. And Smokey, Marv Tarplin, Claudette Robinson, and Billy Griffin should be included with Bobby, Ronnie and Pete. No more "piecing out" members of the group. No more inducting some, while ignoring others .No "sidemen" award,or "Awards for Musicial Excellence".No Booby Prizes,or afterthoughts. MAIN PERFORMERS.PERIOD.
Due to their ages, this may be our last chance to honor one of the greatest groups of all time while the majority of them are still alive. THEY DESERVE IT!!!
***THE MIRACLES IN 2012***

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 07.12.11 @ 10:31am


Actually, if Berry Gordy isn't chosen to give the induction speech for the Miracles, I think Hall & Oates should do it, since they were the ones who gave the induction speech for Smokey Robinson in 1987, which should have been a Miracles induction. Hall & Oates could mention that in their speech and talk about how silly it was.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 07.12.11 @ 22:20pm


Berry Gordy would be the preferred choice, since he was the man who was there with them from the beginning,(Gordy and The Miracles were together since before the formation of Motown Records), but Hall & Oates would be okay. As long as they don't choose some off-the-wall choice like Justin Timberlake...who they used to induct The O'Jays. Totally wrong choice. He wasn't even BORN when the O'Jays had their first chart hits...I doubt very seriously that their songs were played in his home growing up.That would be like having the New Kids induct James Brown !!

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 07.12.11 @ 23:35pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAxjAdnrU5U&list=PL8CC868B5C4F36488

The Rock Hall's Smokey Robinson interview from June 2011 has been uploaded by the Rock Hall on YouTube. The part where he talks about the Miracles induction was not uploaded.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 07.20.11 @ 00:41am


ALL of the Miracles co-wrote and co- produced the songs...not just Smokey (despite what the media would have you believe). That's why I take issue with The RRHOF' 1987 decision to induct Smokey alone.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.21.11 @ 09:32am


***From "THE MIRACLES" article in WIKIPEDIA:***

Behind the scenes, Robinson (often assisted by the other Miracles), handled most of the songwriting and production for not only the Miracles, but for most of the acts on Motown during this early period. During the first half of the 1960s, Robinson tutored labelmates The Supremes and The Temptations. Indeed, by the time each group had its breakthrough hit in 1964, the Miracles had already issued a double-LP greatest hits album, Greatest Hits from the Beginning.
In addition to penning their own material, Miracles Robinson, White, Rogers,Tarplin, and Moore wrote for many of their labelmates as well. Motown hits written, but not recorded, by members of the Miracles include songs for the Temptations ("The Way You Do The Things You Do", "My Girl","Don't Look Back","I'll Be in Trouble" , "You've Got to Earn It" , "Since I Lost My Baby","It's Growing" "My Baby","Get Ready"), Mary Wells ("My Guy", "The One Who Really Loves You","What Love Has Joined Together","You Beat Me to the Punch", "Two Lovers"), Marvin Gaye ("I'll Be Doggone","One More Heartache", "Ain't That Peculiar","Take This Heart of Mine"), The Marvelettes ("Don't Mess With Bill", "The Hunter Gets Captured by the Game"), The Contours ("First I Look at the Purse", "That Day When She Needed Me"), and Brenda Holloway ("When I'm Gone", "Operator").

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.21.11 @ 09:34am


****BOBBY ROGERS of THE MIRACLES****

YouTube interview with singer/ songwriter BOBBY ROGERS of THE MIRACLES: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZKoOnbE6Jk

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.28.11 @ 08:51am


When the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame first started, if someone's name was separate from the rest of the group, the nominators tended to nominate the main person rather than the whole group.

STUPID!

The Supremes, The Temptations, The Four Tops were all inducted! Why not The Miracles?

The Miracles should have been inducted in 1987 as the Miracles, not as Smokey Robinson. To this day, still no Miracles in the Rock Hall, but 2012 could be the year.

The Miracles

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

The Miracles started out as The Miracles. They were the Miracles for 8 years, and charted as The Miracles for 8 years, and then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles for 7 years, and then they became The Miracles again for 5 more years. The Miracles were Motown's first group. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown. The Miracles have to be nominated and inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles, (in the main performers category; not the sidemen category) and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well. Inducting the group as The Miracles (not Smokey Robinson & The Miracles) would also allow for the induction of Smokey Robinson's replacement, Billy Griffin.

The Rascals changed their name to The Young Rascals, and they were inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame as The (Young) Rascals. This was an induction for their entire body of work, both, as The Rascals and The Young Rascals. So inducting The Miracles as The Miracles would count their entire body of work in the induction, including the work produced as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, since Smokey Robinson was a Miracle to begin with!

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted 12 members of the Grateful Dead in 1994, including Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the band! That's right, they inducted the lyricist as a member of the band! They inducted a non-performer in the performers category! So, the Rock Hall better induct Marvin Tarplin with The Miracles. Marvin Tarplin was a member of the Miracles. He was not a sideman. He was their guitarist and songwriter.

THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

26 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
14 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey & Billy combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson)
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

13 Hits as The Miracles
13 Hits as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

13 Years as The Miracles
07 Years as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That
08. 1973 Renaissance
09. 1974 Do It Baby
10. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
11. 1975 City Of Angels
12. 1976 The Power Of Music
13. 1977 Love Crazy
14. 1978 The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

SINGLES

01. 1961 Ain't It Baby
02. 1961 Shop Around
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 A Love She Can Count On
05. 1963 Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 You've Really Got a Hold on Me
07. 1964 (You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man in You
08. 1965 Come on Do the Jerk
09. 1973 Don't Let It End ('Til You Let It Begin)
10. 1974 Do It Baby
11. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
12. 1975 Love Machine
13. 1977 Spy for Brotherhood

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

SINGLES

01. 1965 My Girl Has Gone
02. 1965 Ooo Baby Baby
03. 1965 The Tracks of My Tears
04. 1966 (Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need
05. 1966 Choosey Beggar
06. 1966 Going to a Go-Go
07. 1966 Whole Lot of Shakin' in My Heart (Since I Met You)
08. 1967 I Second That Emotion
09. 1967 More Love
10. 1967 The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage
11. 1969 Abraham, Martin and John
12. 1969 Here I Go Again
13. 1970 Tears of a Clown


THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson (ALIVE)
02. Warren "Pete" Moore (ALIVE)
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers (ALIVE)
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White (DEAD)
05. Claudette Rogers (ALIVE)
06. Marvin Tarplin (ALIVE)
07. Billy Griffin (ALIVE)

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)
THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 20?? ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (The Miracles)


THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers

THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

THE 2011 HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin


The people responsible for not nominating and inducting The Miracles as The Miracles in 1987

You would think these people would know what to do

The 1986 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee

Ahmet Ertegun
John Hammond
Bob Hilburn
Bob Krasnow
Kurt Loder
Norm N. Nite
Nile Rodgers
Seymour Stein
Jann Wenner
Jerry Wexler


In an interview with SOUL PATROL Claudette Rogers Robinson of THE MIRACLES stated the following:

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame may feel that The Miracles are in the hall of fame because of the fact that Smokey was inducted in 1987. Robert (Bobby) Rogers (a member of the Miracles) has spoken to some of the board members of the Hall of Fame, and they said The Miracles are already in there, and Bobby said no we're not! Maybe Smokey was inducted because of his songwriting. There is no envy. We'll have to wait and see what happens.


Smokey was interviewed on On Saturday, June 18, 2011, at the Roll Hall of Fame Museum’s Foster Theater. During the interview, Smokey said that he has been actively campaigning for the induction of ALL of the Miracles into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.The video was streamed live on The Rock Hall website that day. 3 members of the Nominating Committee were in attendance, and 1 of them, Dr. Lauren Onkey, the Rock Hall’s Vice President of Education and Public Programs, actually conducted the interview. Her response to Smokey was : "I second THAT emotion ".

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.29.11 @ 06:04am


*** TWO FOURTH GRADERS INTERVIEW SMOKEY***

Two Fourth Grade students do a Documentary on Smokey and actually interview him...are YOU SMARTER THAN A FOURTH GRADER ?? is Smokey?? Let's find out: (LOL) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVpWcaUkNC8

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 07.29.11 @ 13:37pm


***TWO FOURTH GRADERS INTERVIEW SMOKEY***
...And here's Part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOcpAc7WkCE&NR=1

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 07.29.11 @ 13:44pm


On July 12th 2011, The editors of GOLDMINE, the famous oldies music magazine, have just chosen THE MIRACLES as one of "THE 20 GREATEST DOO-WOP GROUPS OF ALL TIME". here is the list:

LITTLE ANTHONY & THE IMPERIALS

THE MIRACLES

DION & THE BELMONTS (why is Dion inducted solo ?)

FRANKIE LYMON & THE TEENAGERS (thanks for the correction,Charles)

THE CADILLACS

THE CLOVERS

THE DEL-VIKINGS

THE COASTERS

JAY & THE AMERICANS

THE ORIOLES

THE PLATTERS

THE RAYS

THE FLAMINGOS

THE DRIFTERS

THE DUPREES

THE CHANTELS (nominated, but not inducted into the RRHOF)

THE CRESTS (RIP JOHNNY MAESTRO)

SHEP & THE LIMELITES

THE HEARTBEATS

THE SKYLINERS

THE SPANIELS

LEE ANDREWS & THE HEARTS

(NOTE: they say the Top 20, but there are actually more that 20 groups on the list. Also, where are THE MOONGLOWS, THE mighty DELLS, and HANK BALLARD & THE MIDNIGHTERS ??)

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.30.11 @ 13:17pm


***THE MIRACLES featuring CLAUDETTE ROBINSON***

" MR MISERY "

an unreleased (until recently)by THE MIRACLES featuring CLAUDETTE ROBINSON lead vocals...with Smokey's voice clearly audible in the background ,along with BOBBY, RONNIE, and PETE.THIS ONE COULD HAVE BEEN A HIT !!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGkxtz_8yMo

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.30.11 @ 16:05pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4k5zz_B7nU

Video of The Miracles 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08.2.11 @ 07:45am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrtGhh3qj0

Video of The Miracles 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08.2.11 @ 07:46am


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

Inductees:

00. 1987 Smokey Robinson
01. 1988 The Supremes
02. 1989 The Temptations
03. 1990 The Four Tops
04. 20?? The Miracles

VERY SAD THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE 80s OR EARLY 90s FOR THE MIRACLES!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08.2.11 @ 07:58am


****THE MIRACLES IN 2012****
http://www.wix.com/reedmusic/the-miracles#!cast-your-vote
Please go to this site and cast YOUR VOTE for THE MIRACLES to be inducted into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. For the first time ever, Smokey has given his official endorsement for ALL of the Miracles to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.This is significant.It's NOW OR NEVER. Due to the advanced ages of THE MIRACLES ,this may indeed be OUR LAST CHANCE to honor one of the GREATEST GROUPS OF ALL TIME ... while the majority of it's members are STILL ALIVE.

Smokey and Bobby Rogers are 71.
Claudette Robinson is 69.
Marv Tarplin is 70.
Pete Moore is 72.
Ronnie White, sadly, is no longer with us.
Billy Griffin is 61.

Please help to get the Miracles on the ballot as MAIN PERFORMERS...NOT "SIDEMEN"...and please express this to the Nominating Committee. SEND YOUR COMMENTS AND ENDORSEMENTS TO THIS SITE, and We will make sure this list gets to the RRHOF Nominating Committee.This committee meets in about ***1 month*** It's now or never !!Please go to this site and PLACE YOUR VOTE ASAP !! Thank You.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 08.2.11 @ 12:34pm


****THE MIRACLES IN 2012****
http://www.wix.com/reedmusic/the-miracles#!cast-your-vote
Please go to this site and cast YOUR VOTE for THE MIRACLES to be inducted into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. For the first time ever, Smokey has given his official endorsement for ALL of the Miracles to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.This is significant.It's NOW OR NEVER. Due to the advanced ages of THE MIRACLES ,this may indeed be OUR LAST CHANCE to honor one of the GREATEST GROUPS OF ALL TIME ... while the majority of it's members are STILL ALIVE.

Smokey and Bobby Rogers are 71.
Claudette Robinson is 69.
Marv Tarplin is 70.
Pete Moore is 72.
Ronnie White, sadly, is no longer with us.
Billy Griffin is 61.

Please help to get the Miracles on the ballot as MAIN PERFORMERS...NOT "SIDEMEN"...and please express this to the Nominating Committee. SEND YOUR COMMENTS AND ENDORSEMENTS TO THIS SITE, and We will make sure this list gets to the RRHOF Nominating Committee.This committee meets in about ***1 month*** It's now or never !!Please go to this site and PLACE YOUR VOTE ASAP !! Thank You.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 08.2.11 @ 23:44pm


http://www.wix.com/reedmusic/the-miracles#!

The Miracles at wix/reedmusic

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.3.11 @ 06:06am


This is a case where an addendum is the right option, unlike The Miracles, who should be nominated and inducted!

Bobby Nunn and Leon Hughes should be added on to The Coasters inductees. They were full members of the group and performed on major hits!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.15.11 @ 07:35am


To Bill

I read somewhere, but I forgot where, that Smokey Robinson actually released a single as a solo artist before he charted with The Miracles, but his single never charted. It's from the 1950's. Do you know the name of the song and what year it was released? Do you have a link to the cover of the single or the actual song itself? This would make Smokey Robinson's 1987 Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction valid for a solo induction since his first single was over 25 years earlier, and it would make a bigger case for The Miracles, not like they need one anyway.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.15.11 @ 07:47am


Actually it was a Smokey Robinson and Mary Wells duet from 1963 "I Want You 'Round" which never charted and maybe never released at the time. 1963 to 1987, that's only 24 years, not 25.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.15.11 @ 10:58am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c2ta8ooLYw

From Bill G.

This so-called "solo" single that everyone has been talking about really wasn't a "solo" single at all. The song was a non-charting novelty tune called "It", and it was released in 1959, credited to "Ron and Bill". "Ron" was Miracles member RONNIE WHITE, and "Bill" was BILL "SMOKEY" ROBINSON. Since THE MIRACLES had ALREADY existed BEFORE and DURING the release of this "one-off" single, and TWO of the MIRACLES were on it, it could HARDLY be considered a SMOKEY SOLO RELEASE.The group's first charting single on the Billboard Hot 100, "BAD GIRL" was released the SAME YEAR, and the Miracles had released songs that had charted regionally and on the Billboard R&B Charts THE YEAR BEFORE. ("Got A Job","I Cry","Your Love (Is All I Need)").Thus, the whole idea of "IT" being a SOLO single was really incorrect, because RONNIE was on it too. It was a DUO . not a "SOLO", and The Miracles WERE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE DURING AND PRIOR TO IT'S RELEASE.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.15.11 @ 20:05pm


http://www.answers.com/topic/ron-bill

From Bill G.

Ron & Bill was a short-lived incarnation of Ronnie White and Smokey Robinson from the early days of the Motown organization -- the credit appeared on one record, the single "It" b/w "Don't Say Bye Bye," released on the Tamla label, which was the label's attempt at charting with a novelty tune. Actually, the A-side is very pretty, with superb singing and exquisite choruses, and if the effort here was to imitate "The Purple People Eater" or "The Flying Saucer," as suggested by Bill Dahl in his notes for The Complete Motown Singles, Vol. 1 1959-1961, then the label ended up with something smoother and more sophisticated than either of those sides, and one well worth hearing as straight R&B. The record constitutes an understandably obscure event in the life of the singer and the history of the Miracles. ~ Bruce Eder, Rovi

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.15.11 @ 20:06pm


"Actually it was a Smokey Robinson and Mary Wells duet from 1963 "I Want You 'Round" which never charted and maybe never released at the time. 1963 to 1987, that's only 24 years, not 25."
Posted by Roy.

If this so-called "solo" release (again, NOT a "solo" but another DUO-if indeed it WAS EVER released), came out in 1963, again,THE MIRACLES were ALREADY IN EXISTENCE, having released their third million-selling Top 10 hit,"Mickey's Monkey", that year.Just ANOTHER REASON why their being passed over for nomination and induction in favor of "Solo Smokey" was reprehensible and unfair.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 08.16.11 @ 02:04am


It looks to me as if the RRHOF was looking for ANY OBSCURE LOOPHOLE that they could in order to give Smokey a SOLO INDUCTION. It wasn't necessary. All they had to do was induct him in the NON-PERFORMER category as a songwriter/producer/record executive. The other MIRACLES shouldn't have had to be sacrificed to put Smokey in alone . 8 of the 10 "ESSENTIAL SONGS" that the RRHOF LISTED FOR HIM on their site were MIRACLES SONGS. What an unfair slap in the face to Motown's First Group. ALL OF THEM WERE ON THOSE SONGS....ALL OF THEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN CREDITED. The RRHOF SIMPLY SWEPT THE ISSUE UNDER THE RUG back in 1987...thinking that it would just "go away". Instead, over 25 years later, it has just gotten BIGGER. This issue WILL NOT go away until The Miracles are inducted.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 08.16.11 @ 13:08pm


^That, and the fact that Robinson's bio focuses primarily on his work with The Miracles. His sol work alone would not be sufficient to warrant induction. But, as noted on this site, it's not the only instance where the lead was inducted, leaving the rest of a group behind.

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 08.16.11 @ 15:39pm


This is ONE group that should NEVER have been left behind. They (the Nomination Committee) broke the rules to leave The Miracles out. Now they should bend the rules to let them in.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08.18.11 @ 09:36am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAxjAdnrU5U&list=PL8CC868B5C4F36488

Smokey was interviewed on On Saturday, June 18, 2011, at the Roll Hall of Fame Museum’s Foster Theater. During the interview, Smokey said that he has been actively campaigning for the induction of ALL of the Miracles into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.The video was streamed live on The Rock Hall website that day. 3 members of the Nominating Committee were in attendance, and 1 of them, Dr. Lauren Onkey, the Rock Hall’s Vice President of Education and Public Programs, actually conducted the interview. Her response to Smokey was : "I second THAT emotion ".

The Miracles 2009 induction onto the Hollywood Walk of Fame, all the fan emails to the Rock Hall, and Smokey Robinson's Rock Hall interview with Dr. Onkey this year is a sign!!

The Miracles will finally be inducted into The Rock Hall in 2012!

The 2012 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

The Miracles

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Friday, 08.19.11 @ 06:49am


I hope so, Roy. They've waited too long already.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 08.19.11 @ 12:02pm


No one would die if The Miracles were nominated and inducted in the main performers category and Smokey Robinson was inducted a second time. So what! No laws are being broken!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 08.19.11 @ 18:52pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAxjAdnrU5U&playnext=1&list=PL8CC868B5C4F36488

I have added comments about The Miracles Rock Hall inductionto to all the clips of Smokey Robinson being interviewed by the Rock Hall on the Rock Hall's official YouTube page. The Rock Hall will read them and get with the program and induct The Miracles.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 08.21.11 @ 21:23pm


Sidemen ?

The Silver Bullet Band ? - YES!

The E Street Band ? - YES!

The Revolution ? - YES!

The Miracles ? - NO!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08.22.11 @ 09:42am


That's correct, Roy. The Miracles WERE NOT sidemen for Smokey...and NEVER WERE. They were all part of the SAME GROUP, and Smokey was just a member ...just like all of the rest.He (BY HIS OWN ADMISSION on The Miracles DVD) even made THE SAME MONEY as the other members for royalties and personal appearances.

***NO "SIDEMEN" AWARDS for THE MIRACLES.PERIOD.***

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.22.11 @ 13:44pm


Thought folks would like to see this:
http://www.wix.com/reedmusic/The_Miracles

Posted by Jeanne Sorensen on Monday, 08.22.11 @ 19:27pm

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 08.23.11 @ 10:57am


Over 50 chart hits... over 19 consecutive years...FOUR SONGS in THE GRAMMY HALL OF FAME...3 SONGS in Rolling Stone's list of the 500 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIME... One song entered into the UNITED STATES LIBRARY OF CONGRESS...Multiple BMI Songwriter's Award Winners...3 songs in The ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME'S LIST OF THE 500 SONGS THAT SHAPED ROCK AND ROLL...ALMOST 60 of their songs covered by SCORES of other artists...1 album in Rolling Stone's list of the 500 GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME...Inductees into the Doo-Wop Hall of Fame, The Vocal Group Hall of Fame The Michigan Rock and Roll Legends Hall Of Fame...and nominated for The Hit Parade Hall Of Fame...winners of "The Award Of Merit" from The American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers (ASCAP)...and winners of The Rhythm & Blues Foundation's Pioneer Award ...1 song chosen as one of The Top 10 Greatest Songs of All Time by a panel of 20 top industry songwriters and producers...including PAUL McCARTNEY,HAL DAVID,BRIAN WILSON, and JERRY LIEBER...Referred to by no less an authority than QUINCY JONES as " The Beethovens of The 20th Century... On Rolling Stones', Billboard's, and VH-1's lists of the 100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME...honored with a star on The HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME...and SOME OF YOU WANT TO PUT THEM IN AS SIDEMEN ??? To make room for SOMEONE MORE DESERVING ??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME ???

Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 08.24.11 @ 11:35am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhKbHbX2O7o
***The MIRACLES LIVE on The T.A.M.I SHOW***

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 08.24.11 @ 11:54am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2GBs-vJOlQ
***THE MIRACLES CLOSE THE SHOW IN ENGLAND ON "READY,STEADY,GO" (1965)***
(flanked by Dusty Springfield and other Motown greats)

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 08.24.11 @ 11:55am


This is ONE group that should NEVER have been left behind. They (the Nomination Committee) broke the rules to leave The Miracles out. Now they should bend the rules to let them in.

***AS MAIN PERFORMERS***

...And do it before we lose any more of them !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08.25.11 @ 13:49pm


https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=238776709500707&id=43211139456

Future Rock Legends has obtained information from their source at the Rock Hall about the latest artists who have been considered for nomination, but didn't make the final nominees list. In other words, they were nominated to be nominated, but didn't make the final nominees list this year, or maybe some of them did. The Miracles are not mentioned. So I don't know what this means. It could mean The Miracles made the final nominees list this year, which will be revealed in September, it could mean they were not considered at all, but it better not mean that they are being inducted in the sidemen category (Award for Musical Excellence).

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.27.11 @ 08:05am


It would be a real slap in the face if The Miracles were inducted in the "Sidemen" category (now called "Award for Musical Excellence"), after all of their contemporaries , including many of their Motown labelmates, got inducted in the "Main Performers" category. What an insult to Motown's first group. That would imply that they "weren't good enough" to be inducted as Main Performers", and that that they were "sidemen" to Smokey, which is really not true, because, as Roy said , Smokey , too, was a member of The Miracles to BEGIN WITH .

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 08.27.11 @ 11:39am


From the THIRD ESTATE SUNDAY REVIEW:

Evidence that SMOKEY DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR RRHOF INDUCTION AS A SOLO ARTIST when he was inducted in 1987:

Now might be a good time to note how the rules are regularly bent by the Hall for males.(or ANYONE it sees fit. MY words, not theirs-Willgee). Smokey Robinson was inducted into the Hall in 1987 as a performer. While Smokey is intensely talented and has made many real contributions that qualify him for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, there's no denying that he wasn't qualified to be inducted in 1987. The Miracles? Absolutely. Smokey? No. The rules dictate that a minimum of 25 years must have elapsed since your first recording was released for you to qualify. That would mean Smokey Robinson (and not the Miracles or Smokey Robinson and the Miracles) would have had to begin his solo career in 1962. As even the Hall notes, "In July 1972, Robinson parted ways with the Miracles, and both entities enjoyed continued success. " As a performer, Smokey Robinson (solo) was not eligible to be inducted until 1997".

SMOKEY did NOT RECORD a SINGLE SONG as a SOLO ARTIST until 1972.Counting ahead 25 years from that date, 1997 (or 1998)would have been THE EARLIEST he would have qualified as a solo artist, NOT 1987, the year he WAS inducted.* The MIRACLES as a GROUP, however, qualified in the VERY FIRST YEAR of RRHOF INDUCTIONS, as they had been around over 30 years by then. This was a deliberate attempt by "CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS" to REWRITE HISTORY,and LEAVE THE MIRACLES OUT as a deleted footnote.
But,it hasn't worked.

*Note:The ONLY way Smokey could , and should have been POSSIBLY inducted into the RRHOF prior to 1992 would have been in the NON-PERFORMER category, as a writer-producer. BUT , that's not how he was inducted. He was inducted as a PERFORMER , which , according to RRHOF rules , requires the 25 year MININUM rule. Thus , the RRHOF violated their OWN rule , and , in so doing, did a SERIOUS INJUSTICE to PETE MOORE, BOBBY ROGERS, MARV TARPLIN , the late RONNIE WHITE, and CLAUDETTE ROBINSON.

It will be interesting to see how the RRHOF reacts now that THE MIRACLES have recieved their STAR on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame. That honor is only reserved for artists that have reached the PINNACLE of show business success, something that would NEVER have been bestowed upon a group that is a "DELETED FOOTNOTE" .

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 08.27.11 @ 21:02pm


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BROKE ITS OWN RULES!

The Miracles (First Eligible for the Rock Hall in 1984-1985) Not inducted yet!!

Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (First Eligible for the Rock Hall in 1990-1991)

Smokey Robinson (First Eligible for the Rock Hall in 1997-1998) Inducted ten years too early in 1987!!

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BROKE ITS OWN RULES!

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.27.11 @ 21:27pm


Roy, Smokey recorded solo for End records in 1958 before recording with the Miracles. It's a borderline obscene technicality, but he was inducted when eligible.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 08.27.11 @ 23:37pm


Roy, Smokey recorded solo for End records in 1958 before recording with the Miracles. It's a borderline obscene technicality, but he was inducted when eligible.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 08.27.11 @ 23:37pm

Was this something that was actually released, or was it stored away?

Bill G.. what do you have to say about this?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 08.28.11 @ 06:22am


"Bill, Smokey recorded solo for End records in 1958 before recording with the Miracles. It's a borderline obscene technicality, but he was inducted when eligible."

Posted by Philip

OK, Philip, Let's just say for point of argument that Smokey recorded a solo song. The question is not that he did. The real question is "Did THE MIRACLES exist during this time. The answer is YES.The Miracles have been around since 1955...and began recording in 1957...1 year BEFORE this so-called "solo" single.
Now...here are the facts about this supposed "solo" single.

This so-called "solo" single that everyone has been talking about really wasn't a "solo" single at all. The song was a non-charting novelty tune called "It", and it was recorded in 1958 and released in 1959, credited to "Ron and Bill". "Ron" was Miracles member RONNIE WHITE, and "Bill" was BILL "SMOKEY" ROBINSON. Since THE MIRACLES had ALREADY existed BEFORE and DURING the release of this "one-off" single, and TWO of the MIRACLES were on it, it could HARDLY be considered a SMOKEY SOLO RELEASE.The group's first charting single on the Billboard Hot 100, "BAD GIRL" was released the SAME YEAR, and the Miracles had released songs that had charted regionally and on the Billboard R&B Charts THE YEAR BEFORE. ("Got A Job","I Cry","Your Love (Is All I Need)").Thus, the whole idea of "IT" being a SOLO single was really incorrect, because RONNIE was on it too. It was a DUO . not a "SOLO", and The Miracles WERE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE DURING AND PRIOR TO IT'S RELEASE.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 08.28.11 @ 09:51am


http://www.pressherald.com/life/go/rock-n-roll-never-forgets_-its-sure-a-good-imitation_2011-03-10.html

***THE PORTLAND PRESS-HERALD PICKS IT'S TOP 10***

On Monday, September 5, 2011 , Portland, Oregon's newspaper, The Press Herald , chose it's Top 10 choices of the artists/groups that should be inducted into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame without delay. Here's the list, in no particular order:

1. Johnny Burnette
2. The Miracles
3. Link Wray
4. The Moody Blues
5. Deep Purple -
6. Gordon Lightfoot
7. War
8. Warren Zevon
9. The Cars
10. KISS

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 09.6.11 @ 00:39am


"Bill G. -- the Musical Excellence Award is not the same as the Sidemen award -- it's likely to be much more flexible than that."

Posted by Future Rock Legends

Perhaps. But THE MIRACLES deserve to go in as MAIN PERFORMERS....everyone here KNOWS THAT.

They've been victims of bias and politics since day one...they deserve much better.
The MIRACLES get the booby prize, while people like PERCY SLEDGE,BUFFALO SPRINGFIELD, DARLENE LOVE,BLONDIE, and THE RONETTES get in as MAIN PERFORMERS ?? Give me a BREAK !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 15:48pm


Do not insult Blondie, they are deserving as hell.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 16:01pm


Sorry . I don't mean to insult other artists or their fans . I'm just sick of the bias and political crap. Miracle Bobby Rogers is now 71.He recently said that "The one thing I'd like to do before I die is to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame". He's right....and he really does deserve it.Allegedly , he is not doing well. It truly is sad for a truly DESERVING group such as The Miracles to be passed over year after year for over two decades, while all of their 50's and 60's contemporaries get inducted, including most of their Motown labelmates.But , they have the unmitigated GALL to put his SUIT in the Hall of Fame !! Not fair at all.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 16:54pm


I believe they should retract Smokey's induction and in its place put smokey robinson and the miracles, have a ceremony for them before the other artists getting inducted.
That sound good to you?

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 17:37pm


If The Miracles do get nominated in the main performers category, they will be inducted on the first try!! All inductees would vote for them! They are a shoe-in! Get them in the right way and get it over with!

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 20:24pm


Did The Miracles ever perform on The Ed Sullivan Show?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 20:52pm


Yes, The Miracles performed on Ed Sullivan!

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 21:01pm


http://www.amazon.com/Motown-Gold-Ed-Sullivan-Show/dp/B005D0TERW/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1315707366&sr=1-1

"If The Miracles do get nominated in the main performers category, they will be inducted on the first try!! All inductees would vote for them! They are a shoe-in! Get them in the right way and get it over with!"

Lets hope so.

"Yes, The Miracles performed on Ed Sullivan!"


Posted by Roy

Yes , Roy.they made 2 appearances on Sullivan. Those performances, as well as those of all of the other Motown artists, are part of a BRAND NEW 2-DVD SET to be released on September 13th,2011, entitled:

"MOTOWN GOLD from THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW"

It will feature performances from ;

THE MIRACLES
THE SUPREMES
THE FOUR TOPS
THE TEMPTATIONS
MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS
GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS
STEVIE WONDER
MARVIN GAYE &
THE JACKSON FIVE
















Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 22:22pm


"I believe they should retract Smokey's induction and in its place put smokey robinson and the miracles, have a ceremony for them before the other artists getting inducted.
That sound good to you?"

Posted by GFW

I don't really care, GFW, as long as they get in...but NOT as "sidemen".

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 09.10.11 @ 22:43pm


THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
03. Ronald "Ronnie" White
04. Warren "Pete" Moore
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.11.11 @ 06:58am


Aside from vocals, which instruments did each member of The Miracles play on record if any? Did they ever use outside musicians on their records? Did Marvin Tarplin play guitar as well as bass guitar? Did Marvin Tarplin and Claudette Rogers leave The Miracles the same year as Smokey Robinson did? Did Marvin and Claudette ever appear on any Miracles albums with Billy Griffin?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.11.11 @ 07:36am


The Funk Brothers

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.11.11 @ 20:14pm


THE MIRACLES
THE SUPREMES
THE FOUR TOPS
THE TEMPTATIONS
MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS
GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS
STEVIE WONDER
MARVIN GAYE &
THE JACKSON FIVE


Ironically,ALL of these artists are inducted into The Hall of Fame....EXCEPT The Miracles...the FIRST artists on the Motown label... the group who's success OPENED THE DOORS for ALL of the others.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 09.12.11 @ 15:35pm


http://www.discogs.com/artist/Riley+Hampton?anv=Riley+C.+Hampton&filter_anv=1

"Aside from vocals, which instruments did each member of The Miracles play on record if any? Did they ever use outside musicians on their records? Did Marvin Tarplin play guitar as well as bass guitar? Did Marvin Tarplin and Claudette Rogers leave The Miracles the same year as Smokey Robinson did? Did Marvin and Claudette ever appear on any Miracles albums with Billy Griffin?"

Posted by Roy

1) Smokey played piano when writing, but there is no indication that he played when The Miracles recorded, although it is possible. Marv Tarplin played on all Miracles recordings and on tour as well. Billy Griffin also played as well.

2) Marv Tarplin left the Miracles one year after Smokey and Claudette left.He left to tour and write songs with Smokey, once Smokey decided to do limited touring as a solo artist.

3)Once Marv left the Miracles,he was replaced in the group by Billy Griffin's brother, Donald Griffin.

4) The Funk Brothers are on 95% of Miracles recordings,although in the early days, they did some recordings at RCA Recording Studios in Chicago, under the direction of famed producer/arranger Riley C. Hampton. The group also occasionally recorded in Los Angeles as well.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 09.14.11 @ 12:28pm


A mystery to end all mysteries. Smokey's in w/out them RT @questlove wait....how are The Miracles NOT in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame?!?!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.15.11 @ 10:42am


http://twitter.com/#!/questlove

questlove Questo of The Roots
wait....how are The Miracles NOT in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame?!?!
1 hour ago

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.15.11 @ 10:44am


All my loooong emails to Dr. Onkey, Jim Henke, Dave Marsh, Anthony DeCurtis, Terry Stewart, Robert Hilburn and all the others at the Rock Hall will make sure that The Miracles are nominated and inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the main performers category, and that all members are inducted as The Miracles because The Miracles came first!!

THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
03. Ronald "Ronnie" White
04. Warren "Pete" Moore
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.15.11 @ 10:55am


http://projects.latimes.com/hollywood/star-walk/the-miracles/

****THE SHOWSTOPPERS****

The MIRACLES' HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME PAGE-THE LOS ANGELES TIMES.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 09.20.11 @ 14:28pm


Sad news to report:

Miracles guitarist Tarplin, co-writer of "Tracks of My Tears" dies at 70
Susan Whitall/ Detroit News Music Writer
Motown's Marv Tarplin, who as a guitarist and songwriter was a vital part of Smokey Robinson & The Miracles' sound, has died.
The Atlanta, Ga. native was 70 and living in Las Vegas at the time of his death. Details of when and how are still sketchy, but Jeanne Sorensen, who books engagements for the Miracles today out of Metro Detroit, said that Tarplin's daughter Talese Tarplin confirmed that her father died in Las Vegas. Marv Tarplin left Michigan, and the Miracles, in 1973.
Billy Wilson of the Motown Alumni Association sent out an email alert late Friday afternoon that Tarplin had died, lauding him as the Miracles' "secret weapon."
"I've known Marv since I was 15," Sorensen said. "The Miracles were playing in New York, where I grew up, and I went to the Brooklyn Fox to see them. End of story, I was Miraclized."
Unlike most Motown studio musicians, who stayed in the "Snakepit" at Hitsville on West Grand Boulevard from the beginning, Tarplin was a full-fledged member of the Miracles, recording and touring with them, and appearing on album covers as a member of the group.
While Tarplin was briefly with the Supremes, in their early, Primettes days, Robinson liked his guitar sound and grabbed him for the group. Tarplin was with the Miracles from their first Motown recordings in the late '50s.
He was vital to the group's sound not only as a guitarist, but because he co-wrote many Miracles hits with Robinson, including "The Tracks of My Tears," "Going to a Go-Go," and "The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage." Tarplin also co-wrote (with Robinson), "Ain't That Peculiar" and "I'll Be Doggone," for Marvin Gaye.
Reluctantly, Tarplin moved out to California from Detroit along with Robinson in 1973, and he continued to tour and co-write with Robinson, working on "Cruisin'" and "Being With You" with him.
Since retiring from touring with Robinson in 2008, Tarplin lived a quiet life in Las Vegas. "Marvin was a gentleman, very private. That's what was endearing about him," said Sorensen.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 03:06am


Now , with Marv's death , two of The Miracles have now left us....with still no Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction.

This is truly a sad occasion for Miracles and Motown fans worldwide.

For the members of this internationally loved and admired group to leave us one by one ...after being shafted by the RRHOF YEAR AFTER YEAR....WITH STILL NO INDUCTION...OR EVEN A NOMINATION ,in favor of musical artists with not even a TENTH of their talent, is truly a travesty.

But for those of us who grew up with The Miracles and their music , who remember their emotion-packed performances and Marv's great guitar work on classics such as GOING TO A GO-GO, THE LOVE I SAW IN YOU IS JUST A MIRAGE, CRUSIN, I LIKE IT LIKE THAT , BABY BABY DON'T CRY, THAT'S WHAT LOVE IS MADE OF , and , MOST OF ALL...the immortal TRACKS OF MY TEARS, among numerous other songs, many of which he co wrote , an era has truly come to an end. Our condolences to Marv's daughter, Talese, The other Miracles, and the Tarplin family.

Rest in Peace Marv . Your music and talent will not be forgotten.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 03:07am


Marvin "Marv" Tarplin of The Miracles

(13 June 1941 – 30 September 2011)

His guitar riffs at the intro of The Miracles' million-seller "The Tracks of My Tears" , are among the most famous in Pop music history.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 03:15am



http://www.detnews.com/article/20110930/ENT04/109300454/1361/Miracles-guitarist-Tarplin--co-writer-of-%E2%80%9CTracks-of-My-Tears%E2%80%9D-dies-at-70

Last Updated: September 30. 2011 7:27PM

Miracles guitarist Tarplin, co-writer of “Tracks of My Tears” dies at 70

Susan Whitall/ Detroit News Music Writer

Motown's Marv Tarplin, who as a guitarist and songwriter was a vital part of Smokey Robinson & The Miracles' sound, has died. The Atlanta, Ga. native was 70 and living in Las Vegas at the time of his death. Details of when and how are still sketchy, but Jeanne Sorensen, who books engagements for the Miracles today out of Metro Detroit, said that Tarplin's daughter Talese Tarplin confirmed that her father died in Las Vegas. Marv Tarplin left Michigan, and the Miracles, in 1973. Billy Wilson of the Motown Alumni Association sent out an email alert late Friday afternoon that Tarplin had died, lauding him as the Miracles' "secret weapon." "I've known Marv since I was 15," Sorensen said. "The Miracles were playing in New York, where I grew up, and I went to the Brooklyn Fox to see them. End of story, I was Miraclized." Unlike most Motown studio musicians, who stayed in the "Snakepit" at Hitsville on West Grand Boulevard from the beginning, Tarplin was a full-fledged member of the Miracles, recording and touring with them, and appearing on album covers as a member of the group. While Tarplin was briefly with the Supremes, in their early, Primettes days, Robinson liked his guitar sound and grabbed him for the group. Tarplin was with the Miracles from their first Motown recordings in the late '50s. He was vital to the group's sound not only as a guitarist, but because he co-wrote many Miracles hits with Robinson, including "The Tracks of My Tears," "Going to a Go-Go," and "The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage." Tarplin also co-wrote (with Robinson), "Ain't That Peculiar" and "I'll Be Doggone," for Marvin Gaye. Reluctantly, Tarplin moved out to California from Detroit along with Robinson in 1973, and he continued to tour and co-write with Robinson, working on "Cruisin'" and "Being With You" with him. Since retiring from touring with Robinson in 2008, Tarplin lived a quiet life in Las Vegas. "Marvin was a gentleman, very private. That's what was endearing about him," said Sorensen.

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Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 04:20am


THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson (ALIVE)
02. Warren "Pete" Moore (ALIVE)
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers (ALIVE)
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White (DEAD)
05. Claudette Rogers (ALIVE)
06. Marvin "Marv" Tarplin (DEAD)
07. Billy Griffin (ALIVE)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 04:29am


Rolling Stone Magazine has not reported the passing of Marv Tarplin yet on their website.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 04:30am


If an artist can be inducted more than once in the main performers category, than I guess that means Smokey Robinson can be inducted in the main performers category and then inducted again in the Award For Musical Excellence category with The Miracles, but I really hope it doesn't come to that. I really hope the Rock Hall doesn't do something stupid like inducting The Miracles without Smokey Robinson as a Miracle.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 04:59am


R.I.P Marvin Tarplin

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 10:25am


"Rolling Stone Magazine has not reported the passing of Marv Tarplin yet on their website."

Posted by Roy.

I'd be suprised if they report it AT ALL. Because then, they'd have to report how their RRHOF Nom Com gave Marv and the other Miracles the royal SHAFT for 26 years.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 11:21am



Marvin "Marv" Tarplin (June 13, 1941 – September 30, 2011) was an American guitarist and songwriter, best known as the guitarist for 'The Miracles during the 1950s through the early 1970s. He was one of the group's original members and co-wrote several of their hits, including "The Tracks of My Tears".

Career

Referred to as The Miracles' "secret weapon",Tarplin began his career accompanying a teenage Detroit, Michigan girl group known as The Primettes (later The Supremes). The Primettes sought an audition with Motown Records, and Tarplin played guitar as they performed for Miracles lead singer Smokey Robinson. Robinson was impressed by Tarplin's guitar playing, and lured him away from the Primettes to join The Miracles. Tarplin joined The Miracles in 1958. In the 2006 Motown DVD release, Smokey Robinson & the Miracles: The Definitive Performances 1963-1987, Robinson and fellow Miracles Pete Moore and Bobby Rogers commented that Tarplin's unique guitar playing style was reminiscent of the late Curtis Mayfield, and was the inspiration behind many of their greatest hits.
Whilst Tarplin remained with the Miracles for as long as Robinson was their lead singer, he is only present on the cover of three Miracles albums: Cookin' with The Miracles (1962), I'll Try Something New (1962), and The Fabulous Miracles (1963). He is mentioned, though not pictured, on the back cover of the group's first album, Hi... We're The Miracles (1961), and listed as an original group member. As a songwriter, Tarplin helped co-compose many of the Miracles' hit singles, amongst them the million-selling Grammy Hall of Fame winner "The Tracks of My Tears" for which he received the ASCAP Award Of Merit (1965), "My Girl Has Gone" (1965), "I Like It Like That", (1964), "Going to a Go-Go" (1965), "The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage" (1967), and Point It Out (1968).
In addition, Tarplin co-wrote several Robinson produced hits by Marvin Gaye, including the Top 10 million selling hits, "Ain't That Peculiar" and "I'll Be Doggone". His guitar work was featured on Gaye's Top 40 hit, "One More Heartache", which he also co-wrote, and another of Gaye's chart hits, 1965's "Take This Heart of Mine". He also played on The Four Tops 1970 Top 20 hit, "Still Water (Love)", co-written by Robinson. Tarplin also appeared with the group on The Ed Sullivan Show, the 1964 film, The T.A.M.I. Show, the 1965 CBS television special, Murray The K - It's What's Happening, Baby, and virtually all of the group's personal appearance concerts worldwide, including the Motortown Revue shows in the early 1960s.

Tarplin left the Miracles in 1973, shortly after Smokey Robinson and his wife Claudette left the group. His replacement in The Miracles was Donald Griffin, brother of Billy Griffin.[citation needed]
Robinson and Tarplin continued to collaborate as writers on Robinson's solo recordings, including the Top 10 hits "Cruisin'" (1978) and "Being with You" (1981). Tarplin also continued to play guitar on record and in concert for Robinson, and, until 2008, continued to tour with Robinson. In 2007, Milwaukee, Wisconsin musician, Paul Cebar, paid homage to Tarplin with his song "Marv's Fluttering Guitar (For Marv Tarplin)" from the album Tomorrow Sound Now For Yes Music People.[citation needed]
Tarplin retired from touring in 2008. Tarplin is also pictured on the cover of the 2009 Motown CD release, The Miracles-Depend On Me:The Early Albums (2009).

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame controversy

In 1987, Smokey Robinson was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist. However, in a decision that has since sparked much scrutiny, debate, and controversy, Tarplin, and the other original members of The Miracles, Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White, Pete Moore and Claudette Robinson, were not. The Miracles met the qualifications, as did Robinson, they have not, to date, been inducted.

Family

Tarplin and his former wife, Sylvia, (who died in 2004), had daughters named Talese and Eboney.


Tarplin's death, in Las Vegas, was announced on September 30, 2011.

Awards

Tarplin, and the other Miracles (except Claudette), has been a multiple winner of The BMI award for Songwriting. (Reference: Ebony, October 1971, pg 169)
Tarplin, along with fellow Miracles Pete Moore and Smokey Robinson, was the winner of "The Award Of Merit" from The American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers (ASCAP) for co- composing "The Tracks Of My Tears".
British music magazine Mojo chose Tarplin as one of the '100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time'.
The Miracles were honored with a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame on March 20, 2009.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 11:51am


http://harlemhappening.blogspot.com/2011/09/fw-theblacklist-2-maa-report-death-of.html

HARLEM HAPPENINGS

FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2011

Fw: [TheBlackList-2] MAA REPORT: THE DEATH OF MARV TARPLIN (Miracles former guitar player)

MOTOWN ALUMNI ASSOCIATION

MAA Special Report: The Death Of Marv Tarplin
A hero passed...

Motown's "secret weapon" Marv Tarplin dead at 70

Marvin "Marv" Tarplin (born 13 June 1941, in Atlanta, Georgia) today at the age of 70.You can't express how much this one man meant to those of us dreaming to make it in the music business. His quiet mystique and unconcerned demeanor would make you believe he was just an ordinary guy. But his creative back beat rhythms on guitar allowed the powers that be to find the creative juices to formulate what would become major classic hits for Motown.

Referred to as The Miracles' "secret weapon",Tarplin began his career accompanying a teenage Detroit, Michigan girl group known as The Primettes (later The Supremes). The Primettes sought an audition with Motown Records, and Tarplin played guitar as they performed for Miracles lead singer Smokey Robinson. Robinson was impressed by Tarplin's guitar playing, and asked the primettes if they could borrow him for some shows. Gradually luring him away from the Primettes to join The Miracles. Tarplin joined The Miracles in 1958.

Tarplin's playing technique along with Smokey Robinson's lyrical flair became the inspiration for most of the Miracles hit songs.

While Tarplin remained with the Miracles for as long as Robinson was their lead singer, he is only present on the cover of three classic Miracles albums: Cookin' with The Miracles (1962), I'll Try Something New (1962), and The Fabulous Miracles (1963). He is mentioned, though not pictured, on the back cover of the group's very first album, Hi... We're The Miracles (1961), and listed as an original group member. As a songwriter, Tarplin helped co-compose many of the Miracles' hit singles, amongst them the million-selling Grammy Hall of Fame winner "The Tracks of My Tears for which he received the ASCAP Award Of Merit (1965), "My Girl Has Gone (1965), "I Like It Like That, (1964), "Going to a Go-Go (1965), "The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage (1967), and Point It Out (1968).

In addition, Tarplin co-wrote several Robinson produced hits by Marvin Gaye, including the Top 10 million selling hits, "Ain't That Peculiar and "I'll Be Doggone. His guitar work is featured prominently on Gaye's Top 40 hit, "One More Heartache, which he also co-wrote,and another of Gaye's chart hits, 1965's "Take This Heart of Mine. He also played on The Four Tops 1970 Top 20 hit, Still Water (Love),co-written by fellow Miracle Smokey Robinson. He also appeared with the group on The Ed Sullivan Show, the 1964 motion picture The T.A.M.I. Show, THE 1965 CBS television special, Murray The K - It's What's Happening, Baby, and virtually all of the group's personal appearance concerts worldwide, including the legendary Motortown Revue shows in the early 1960s.[citation needed]

Tarplin left the Miracles in 1973, shortly after Smokey Robinson and his wife Claudette left the group. His replacement in The Miracles was Donald Griffin, brother of Billy Griffin, Robinson's replacement in the group.

Robinson and Tarplin continued to collaborate as writers on Robinson's solo recordings, including the Top 10 hits "Cruisin' (1978) and "Being with You (1981). Tarplin also continued to play guitar on record and in concert for Robinson, and, until 2008, continued to tour with Robinson. In 2007, Milwaukee, Wisconsin musician, Paul Cebar, paid homage to Tarplin with his song "Marv's Fluttering Guitar (For Marv Tarplin)" from the album Tomorrow Sound Now For Yes Music People.

Tarplin's phenomenal skills as a guitarist and songwriter were demonstrated on many hits of The Miracles, as well as many studio recordings and concert appearances. He served in The Miracles for well over a decade until joining Smokey Robinson after Smokey departed from The Miracles to pursue a solo career. Tarplin is also pictured on the cover of the 2009 Motown CD release, The Miracles-Depend On Me:The Early Albums (2009) .His guitar riffs at the intro of The Miracles' million-seller "The Tracks of My Tears" , are among the most famous in Pop music history.
Tarplin retired from touring in 2008.
Marv was preseded in death by his wife, Sylvia, (who died in 2004) They have a daughter named Talese
Footnote: More information will be delivered as it comes in.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.1.11 @ 21:27pm


Another point that I don't think anyone has made is that the R&R HoF broke its own rules to put Smokey Robinson in to the Hall by himself. The qualifying rule is that the artist is eligible 25 years after they have put out a record. Smokey was inducted in 1987, based on the year 1986, which is 25 years after 1962. The artist Smokey Robinson did not chart a record until 1973. The MIRACLES were the artists who put out a record in 1962. They weren't even called 'Smokey Robinson and the Miracles' until some years later. In NO OTHER instance has the R&R HoF split an individual out of a group and only let that individual in based on the recording/qualifying year of the whole group. The 'artist' is the whole act, whether a solo artist or a whole group, in EVERY other case. What was the point of their decision?? Why on earth did they make this decision?? Yes, Smokey was the most important musical figure in the group but the same can be said for MANY other groups that were inducted and the committee did not select out those individuals and exclude the rest of the members. This is the biggest slam in the history of the Hall of Fame, in my opinion, and has continued to disturb me for 24 years!!!

Posted by Toni Gail on Sunday, 10.2.11 @ 00:46am


One small point: I do think it's odd that this website is saying the Miracles have been eligible since 1984 (1985 induction ceremony) since the Hall of Fame did not exist until the first induction ceremony in 1986. Just sayin'

Posted by Toni Gail on Sunday, 10.2.11 @ 00:50am


So what are you saying? Are you saying that every artist on this website who qualified for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame before 1986, the year of the first Rock Hall induction cceremony, should just have their qualification year changed on this site to 1986 because there was no Rock Hall before 1986? If an artist first qualified for the Rock Hall any year before 1986, that's just the year they would have qualified for the Rock Hall had the Rock Hall existed before 1986, but it didn't. If an artist first qualified for the Rock Hall any year before 1986, that's just the year they would have qualified for the Rock Hall (according to the 25-year rule) regardless of whether or not a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame existed. That is why you see the qualification years you see on this website for the hundreds of artists who qualified before 1986.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.2.11 @ 07:02am


***THE MIRACLES' ACCOMPLISHMENTS COMPARED TO THE 2012 NOMINEES:***

FREDDIE KING (are you kidding ? only 2 charting albums and 4 charting singles on the Hot 100 )

THE SPINNERS (HOF worthy, but did NOT write their own material, any more than THE SUPREMES or TEMPTATIONS did.)

LAURA NYRO (great writer, but only 1 charted hit, and no charting albums at all . should have been nominated as a non-performer)

THE BEASTIE BOYS (you're kidding, right ?? see ERIC B. and RAKIM)

DONNA SUMMER ( the only bona fide STAR of the disco era....but that was a much- maligned era,and nowhere NEAR THE MIRACLES' influence. worthy, yes. Before The MIRACLES ? no.

WAR (HoF worthy, yes. see DONNA SUMMER)

ERIC B. and RAKIM (their 6 years of chart success and only 4 albums CAN'T POSSIBLY match THE MIRACLES' longevity or success. too many '80's RAP acts are being considered WAY too soon , considering that late '60's-early 70's soul artists have been COMPLETELY IGNORED by the "great hall". (the MANHATTANS, CHI-LITES , STYLISTICS, DELFONICS, BARRY WHITE, DRAMATICS,MAIN INGREDIENT, HAROLD MELVIN & THE BLUE NOTES, THE COMMODORES, LOU RAWLS, etc,etc,etc).

RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS, GUNS AND ROSES,THE CURE, HEART (enormously successful rock acts, chosen obviously to sell tickets, and are favorites of the Nominating committee , NONE of which have had their songs covered by as big or as diverse the number of artists as THE MIRACLES. Some should go in now, (HEART), others later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles#Cover_versions_and_Influence

DONOVAN (HOF worthy, but not before THE MIRACLES. Can't match their chart record)

THE FACES/THE SMALL FACES (very few charting records, again, obviously Nom Com favorites...see THE STOOGES)

CHAKA KHAN and RUFUS ( probably worthy...can't match THE MIRACLES' charting singles record... BUT MORE SUCCESSFUL ALBUM-WISE. Influential...but not to the extent of the MIRACLES.CHAKA is one the greatest female singers, though. If they could include RUFUS with HER, WHY COULDN'T THEY INCLUDE THE MIRACLES WITH SMOKEY ??

Those are only MY opinions, based on facts as well. Others' opinions may differ .

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 09:41am


CURTIS MAYFIELD is the closest example I can think of where the Hall of Fame did things in the RIGHT WAY. Both Curtis and Smokey were both master songwriters and producers. Both were lead singers of their respective groups . But in Mayfield's case, his GROUP , The IMPRESSIONS, were inducted FIRST, in 1991.ALL of them. Then, in 2003, Mayfield was inducted solo, albeit posthumously, in 2003.

This is the SAME way it should have happened with THE MIRACLES. THE GROUP FIRST, (because they qualified first), THEN Smokey later.
Instead, in one of the most GLARING instances of BIAS and POLITICS in Hall of Fame history , Smokey was inducted ALONE... during the period that THE MIRACLES qualified COLLECTIVELY, then the GROUP was DISCARDED,as if non-important.

The BIG DIFFERENCE is THIS:
The OTHER MIRACLES, Bobby Rogers , Ron White, Pete Moore, and Marv Tarplin were ALL songwriters and producers too ! So was Smokey's replacement , Billy Griffin.All were responsible for writing ther many hits,and numerous hits for other artists.The only member of the Miracles who was NOT a songwriter was Claudette Robinson (of course, when would she have TIME to write...she was too busy raising her and Smokey's KIDS !!)

Impressions members Sam Gooden and Fred Cash were NOT songwriters...BUT that didn't prevent THEIR inductions.Now, how does the RRHOF explain THAT ?? And how do they justify leaving THE MIRACLES out in the COLD for 26 years... WITHOUT A SINGLE NOMINATION...not even ONCE ??

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 10:15am


Bill G., as always, your impassioned promotion of The Miracles is appreciated. BUT, on Freddie King. No, they aren't kidding. His nomination is overdue. His chart success does not tell the whole story. If one of the criteria is "influence," Freddie influenced many rock guitar icons very directly. Clapton and SRV are on record as stating that King was one of their primary influences. Clapton, Vaughan and Jeff Beck have all covered King's songs on their records.

Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 12:32pm


Rolling Stone, Billboard, CNN, MSNBC!: None have reported the death of Marvin Tarplin!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 13:10pm


They probably don't think it's relevant sadly.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 16:07pm


http://www.friendsatrest.com/4696/memorials/marv-tarplin/

****Tribute to Miracle Marv Tarplin****

Posted by Bill G on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 17:09pm


"Bill G., as always, your impassioned promotion of The Miracles is appreciated. BUT, on Freddie King. No, they aren't kidding. His nomination is overdue. His chart success does not tell the whole story. If one of the criteria is "influence," Freddie influenced many rock guitar icons very directly. Clapton and SRV are on record as stating that King was one of their primary influences. Clapton, Vaughan and Jeff Beck have all covered King's songs on their records."

Posted by Dezmond.

Point taken, Dezmond. I didn't mean to downplay Freddie King's accomplishments in any way. But....

How many guitarists do think that MARV TARPLIN has influenced ? Just his guitar licks at the beginning of THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS are among the most famous in Pop Music history. The simple fact that British Pop music magazine MOJO has honored Marv Tarplin as one of the 100 GREATEST GUITARISTS OF ALL TIME should give you a clue.Also the fact that he is a ASCAP and BMI Award winner is another. But when you also consider the fact that Marv wrote the music for some of greatest hit records of all time just underscores the total CLUELESSNESS that the Nominating Comittee has displayed in denying Marv ane the other Miracles induction:

SONGS CO-WRITTEN BY MARV TARPLIN INCLUDE:

THE MIRACLES HITS:

The Tracks of My Tears.
My Girl Has Gone
The Love I Saw In You Was Just A Mirage.
I Like It Like That.
Come On Do The Jerk
Going To A Go-Go
Doggone Right
Point It Out

MARVIN GAYE HITS:

Ain't That Peculiar
I'll Be Doggone
One More Heartache
Take This Heart Of Mine

SMOKEY ROBINSON (solo)

Crusin'

Being With You

This is just a partial list .


Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 19:20pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cebar

Guitarist and Bandleader Paul Cebar actually recorded a tribute to Miracle Marv Tarplin entitled "Marv's Fluttering Guitar (For Marv Tarplin)" from the album Tomorrow Sound Now For Yes Music People.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 19:25pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marv_Tarplin

For more info, please check out this site.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 19:26pm


How many artists have THE MIRACLES influenced ?
How many have covered their songs? You don't want to know. Get ready for a TIDAL WAVE !!

Cover versions and Influence

The Miracles, Motown's first group,are far and away,the most covered Motown group of all time.[32] Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world – in every major musical genre – over the last 50 years.[33] Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists. Among these are:
"Going to a Go-Go" – The Rolling Stones, The Hags, and Secret Affair.
"I Second That Emotion" – Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, José Feliciano,Emilie, Stuck In The Middle , Thelma Jones.
"(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " – The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's
"If You Can Want" – The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon.
"Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway
"Much Better Off" – J Dilla.
"You've Got The Love I Need" -J Dilla, Raekwon.
"A Legend In Its Own Time" – J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven").
"Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair.
"I Don't Blame You At All"- Rosetta Hightower.
"Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark.
"You're So Fine and Sweet"- The Undertakers.
"I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels.
"Would I Love You"-Len Barry.
"Happy Landing"- The Temptations.
"Special Occasion- Jim Gilstrap.
"I'll Try Something New" – Diana Ross & The Supremes with The Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me")
"My Girl Has Gone" – Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker.
"Yester Love" – Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra.
"The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" – The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques[disambiguation needed]
"Love Machine" – Wham!, Thelma Houston
"Determination" – The Contours.
Choosey Beggar – Chazz Dixon, Debby Boone.
"I've Been Good To You" – Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations.
"Mickey's Monkey" – Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats , The Mac Truque.
"More Love" – Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb.
"Ooo Baby Baby" – Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz
"Shop Around" – Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey , among numerous others.
"The Tears of a Clown" – La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins .
"The Tracks of My Tears " – Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamaría, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Björns Vänner (as Ser Jag Ut Att Må Bra?), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others
"Darling Dear" – The Jackson Five.
"Who's Loving You" – The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa.
" You've Really Got a Hold on Me" – Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, and She & Him among many others.
"I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" – The Who, Jimmy James.
"From Head to Toe" – Elvis Costello, Chris Clark
"A Fork in the Road " – Rebbie Jackson
"Way Over There" – The Royal Counts, The Temptations, Edwin Starr, The Marvelettes, New Man, Eddie Adams Jr.
"(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" – Chuck Jackson
"What's So Good About Goodbye" – Giant Sunflower, The Temptations , Quix*O*Tic
"More, More, More of Your Love" – Bob Brady & the Con Chords
"Doggone Right" – Bobby Davis.
"After All" – The Supremes, The Marvelettes.
"Swept For You Baby" – The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby).
"The Hurt is Over" – The DT's
"Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore, Steve Washington.
"Save Me" – The Undertones
"(You Can) Depend On Me" – The Temptations, The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway , Barbara Mason.
"Baby Baby Don't Cry" – Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt.
"Can You Love a Poor Boy" – Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker.
"Bad Girl" – Dazz Band.
"That's What Love Is Made Of" – Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians.
"We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts[disambiguation needed]
"Here I Go Again" – Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones.
"Point It Out"' – The Supremes and The Temptations.
"Got A Job" – The Marcels
"Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" – The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson.
"Give Me Just Another Day" – Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5")
"Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited).
"Who's Gonna Take The Blame" – Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long").
References: Allmusic, The Covers Project,Second Hand Songs, "Who Sampled" website.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10.3.11 @ 19:31pm


"Bill G., as always, your impassioned promotion of The Miracles is appreciated. BUT, on Freddie King. No, they aren't kidding. His nomination is overdue. His chart success does not tell the whole story. If one of the criteria is "influence," Freddie influenced many rock guitar icons very directly. Clapton and SRV are on record as stating that King was one of their primary influences. Clapton, Vaughan and Jeff Beck have all covered King's songs on their records."

Posted by Dezmond.

Point taken, Dezmond. I didn't mean to downplay Freddie King's accomplishments in any way. But....

How many guitarists do you think that MARV TARPLIN has influenced ? Just his guitar licks at the beginning of THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS are among the most famous in Pop Music history. The simple fact that British Pop music magazine MOJO has honored Marv Tarplin as one of the 100 GREATEST GUITARISTS OF ALL TIME should give you a clue.Also the fact that he is a ASCAP and BMI Award winner is another. But when you also consider the fact that Marv wrote the music for some of greatest hit records of all time just underscores the total CLUELESSNESS that the Nominating Comittee has displayed in denying Marv and the other Miracles Rock Hall of Fame induction:

SONGS CO-WRITTEN BY MARV TARPLIN INCLUDE:

THE MIRACLES HITS:

The Tracks of My Tears.
My Girl Has Gone
The Love I Saw In You Was Just A Mirage.
I Like It Like That.
Come On Do The Jerk
Going To A Go-Go
Doggone Right
Point It Out

MARVIN GAYE HITS:

Ain't That Peculiar
I'll Be Doggone
One More Heartache
Take This Heart Of Mine

SMOKEY ROBINSON (solo)

Crusin'

Being With You

This is just a partial list .It doesn't include album cuts and flip sides. There are many .


Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10.4.11 @ 12:59pm


In addition, as a member of The MIRACLES,Marv played on virtually ALL of their songs. His influence on their sound was so great, He has been described as The Miracles' "secret weapon".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cebar

Guitarist and Bandleader Paul Cebar actually recorded a tribute to Miracle Marv Tarplin entitled "Marv's Fluttering Guitar (For Marv Tarplin)" from the album Tomorrow Sound Now For Yes Music People.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10.4.11 @ 13:08pm


If an artist can be inducted more than once in the main performers category, than I guess that means Smokey Robinson can be inducted in the main performers category and then inducted again in the Award For Musical Excellence category with The Miracles, but I really hope it doesn't come to that. I really hope the Rock Hall doesn't do something stupid like inducting The Miracles without Smokey Robinson as a Miracle.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 09:54am


http://www.billboard.com/news/marv-tarplin-miracles-guitarist-dies-at-1005384562.story#/news/marv-tarplin-miracles-guitarist-dies-at-1005384562.story

The tributes to departed Miracles member MARV TARPLIN continue to pour in.This one is from BILLBOARD MAGAZINE dated today, Oct. 5th.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 13:14pm


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15180656

****MARV TARPLIN of THE MIRACLES 1941-2011****

Here is another tribute from the BBC, also dated today.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 13:20pm


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118043817?refCatId=16

****MARV TARPLIN of THE MIRACLES 1941-2011****

Here's a tribute from entertainment magazine VARIETY DATED 10/3/11.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 13:24pm


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/arts/music/marv-tarplin-motown-guitarist-and-songwriter-dies-at-70.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

****MARV TARPLIN of THE MIRACLES 1941-2011****

Here is a tribute to Marv from the NEW YORK TIMES dated 10/4/2011

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 13:28pm


http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oct/03/marv-tarplin

****MARV TARPLIN of THE MIRACLES 1941-2011****

A eulogy and tribute from the U.K. newspaper THE GUARDIAN.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 13:35pm


***THE MIRACLES'MARV TARPLIN OBITURARY***

**From the UK NEWSPAPER " The Guardian"**

Soft and dreamy, a perfect pre-echo of the song's exquisitely swooning melancholy, the guitar lead-in to The Tracks of My Tears, the 1965 hit by the Miracles, remains one of the most evocative and immediately recognisable introductions of its kind. It was the work of Marv Tarplin, who has died aged 70, and who remained the musical lieutenant of the group's leader, William "Smokey" Robinson, for almost half a century until his retirement in 2008.

Tarplin shared the composing credits of The Tracks of My Tears with Robinson and Warren "Pete" Moore, which ensured a healthy income from numerous cover versions, including those by Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight, Bryan Ferry, Linda Ronstadt, Billy Bragg and Rod Stewart. None of them, however respectable, could recreate the magic of the original, to which the film director Oliver Stone turned when, in the 1986 film Platoon, he needed a piece of music that would evoke all the longing for home experienced by soldiers in Vietnam.

In one of the few interviews given by this quiet, self-effacing man who preferred country and western music to R&B, Tarplin told me that he had been "fooling around" with his Gibson Les Paul Custom guitar, playing phrases from Harry Belafonte's Banana Boat Song, when inspiration struck. "That's where I got the idea," he said. "Belafonte had calypso-type tunes, and it's basically the same chord changes – three chords, turned around a little bit." He took the idea to Robinson.

"Marvin is a brilliant guitarist whose music has always inspired me," Robinson told me. "I wrote all the words with the exception of the first three lines of the chorus thing, the bit that says: 'Outside, I'm masquerading / Inside, my hope is fading.' Pete Moore wrote that." When they took the finished song into the Motown Records studio, Robinson's falsetto floated with heartbreaking elegance over a cushion of Tarplin's guitar, the voices of the other Miracles, and the nonpareil rhythm team of the bass guitarist James Jamerson and the drummer Benny Benjamin.

Berry Gordy Jr, the president of Motown and Robinson's close friend and business partner, heard a test pressing of the new recording at one of the company's weekly product-evaluation meetings. He recognised a masterpiece when he heard it, and asked Robinson to do no more than repeat the chorus at the end before scheduling the record for immediate release. In the US, the result sold 1m copies, reaching No 2 in Billboard's R&B chart (held out of the No 1 spot by James Brown's Papa's Got a Brand New Bag) and No 16 in the pop chart. In Britain it failed to register until 1969, when it was reissued and reached the top 10, subsequently becoming acknowledged as one of the very finest pop records of its era.

It was not the only Miracles hit to owe its musical foundation to Tarplin's imagination. Others included I Like It Like That (1964), Going to a Go-Go (1965), The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage (1967), Doggone Right and Point It Out (both 1969), while one of the biggest hits of Robinson's solo career came in 1979 with Cruisin', on which they shared the songwriting credits. The pair also co-wrote two hits, I'll Be Doggone and Ain't That Peculiar, based on licks provided by Tarplin, for Marvin Gaye in the mid-60s.

Born in Atlanta, Georgia, Tarplin moved to Detroit with his family during childhood. There, his mother enrolled him in piano lessons before he picked up the guitar. He was walking into a Detroit night club, the Flame Show Bar, one day in 1959 when he was hailed by the four members of an all-girl vocal group, the Primettes, who had seen him from the window of their rehearsal room across the street. Two of them, Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson, attended Northeastern high school with Tarplin. The third and fourth were Betty McGlown and Diane (later Diana) Ross. He became their guitarist, accompanying them as they undertook their first professional engagements, performing cover versions of such songs as The Twist and There Goes My Baby. Later that year they auditioned for Robinson, who was acting as Gordy's talent scout at the fledgling Motown label. Robinson promised them an audition with Gordy – which eventually took place, resulting in their subsequent career (minus McGlown) as the Supremes – and he also asked Tarplin to undertake a handful of dates with the Miracles, who had just enjoyed their first hit with Got a Job. That handful of shows would turn into a 49-year professional relationship.

Vocal groups of that era often included a guitarist, whose primary function was to liaise with the musicians providing the backing for package tours or theatre engagements. The Clovers had Bill Harris, the Moonglows had Billy Johnson, and the Miracles had Tarplin. A few months earlier, the inexperienced group had endured the ordeal of turning up at the Apollo theatre in New York – "our first big-time gig," Robinson wrote in his autobiography – with only the most rudimentary chord charts to give the house band, and despite the help of Ray Charles, who took pity on the naive youngsters, the engagement was a disaster. The arrival of Tarplin ensured that never again would they find themselves so exposed.

The guitarist featured in the group's publicity photographs, and he appeared on the covers of the Miracles' first three albums, clearly a fully fledged member, although he later receded into the background. His role meant that he did not become one of the Funk Brothers, Motown's celebrated roster of session men, who seldom went on the road but spent their lives in the Snakepit, as the studio at the label's headquarters was known. Only when the Miracles were at work there, or Robinson was producing Gaye, the Temptations, the Marvelettes or the Supremes, was he called upon to record.

He joined the group in time for their (and Motown's) first million seller, Shop Around, in 1960. Among the earliest products of his songwriting collaboration with Robinson was a ballad called I Can't Believe, which appeared on the B-side of Everybody's Gotta Pay Some Dues, a medium-sized hit in 1961. His playing, which in its deceptive simplicity bore some resemblance to that of Curtis Mayfield, was prominent on You Really Got a Hold On Me (covered by the Beatles on their second album); Going to a Go-Go, which featured his driving chorded riff; and The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage, to which he provided plangent acoustic 12-string figures.

When Robinson broke away from the group to launch a separate career in 1973, he invited Tarplin to join him in Los Angeles, where Gordy had set up a new Motown headquarters. At first the guitarist demurred, preferring to stay in Detroit with the remaining members of the group, but he soon changed his mind and relocated to southern California, where he resumed his career alongside the man once described by Bob Dylan as "America's greatest living poet".

Tarplin appeared with the members of the Miracles in Motown's 25th anniversary television special in 1983, alongside the Supremes, Gaye, Stevie Wonder, the Temptations, the Jackson 5 and others, in an echo of the Motown revues of the early years. Mojo magazine's list of the 100 greatest guitarists of all time, published in 1996, included him at No 99. In retirement, he made his home in Las Vegas. His wife, Sylvia, predeceased him in 2004. He is survived by their daughter, Talese, and by two daughters, Lisa and Eboney, from another relationship.

• Marvin Tarplin, guitarist and songwriter, born 13 June 1941; died 30 September 2011

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 15:47pm


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/smokey-robinson-guitarist-marv-tarplin-dead-at-70-20111005

Rolling Stone Magazine finally reports the death of Marvin Tarplin

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 16:15pm


Took them long enough. After everyone ELSE did a tribute. Probably a bad conscience for giving Marv and the other Miracles THE ROYAL SHAFT for all these years by not inducting them !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 16:48pm


****SONGS WRITTEN OR CO-WRITTEN BY MIRACLE MARV TARPLIN:****

Research by CHARLES CROSSLEY.

One of the talents Marv Tarplin has repeatedly been reported to have is as a songwriter, but it's amazing that, short of All Music Guide (and even then), no one has attempted to list all the songs Tarplin has co-written. So, here is my attempt, arranged chronologically except for the last three, which I can't place the year. Feel free to fill in the blanks.

"I Can't Believe", The Miracles (1962)
"I Like It Like That", The Miracles (1964, #27 Pop)
"You're So Fine And Sweet", The Miracles
"Ain't That Peculiar", Marvin Gaye (1965, #8 Pop)
"The Tracks Of My Tears", The Miracles (1965, #16 Pop, #2 R&B)
"My Girl Has Gone", The Miracles (1965, #14 Pop, #3 R&B)
"Going To A Go-Go", The Miracles (1965, #11 Pop, #2 R&B)
"My Business, Your Pleasure", The Miracles
"One More Heartache", Marvin Gaye (1966, #29 Pop)
"Take This Heart Of Mine", Marvin Gaye (1966, #44 Pop)
"You're Not An Ordinary Girl", The Temptations (1966)
"The Love I Saw In You Was Just A Mirage", Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (1967, #20 Pop, #10 R&B)
"Dancing's Alright", Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (1967)
"Doggone Right", Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (1969, #32 Pop)
"Point It Out", Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (1969, #37 Pop)
"Promise Me", Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (1969)
"The Hurt Is Over", Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (1969)
"You Neglect Me"", Smokey Robinson & The Miracles (1969)
"Flower Girl", Smokey Robinson (1971)
"When Sundown Comes", Smokey Robinson (1971)
"Precious Little Things", The Supremes (1972)
"Baby Come Close", Smokey Robinson (1973, #27 Pop)
"Just My Soul Responding", Smokey Robinson (1973)
"It's Her Turn To Live", Smokey Robinson (1974, #82 Pop)
"Asleep On My Love", Smokey Robinson (1974)
"Fulfill Your Need", Smokey Robinson (1974)
"Just Passing Through", Smokey Robinson (1974)
"Open", Smokey Robinson (1976, #81 Pop)
"Madam X", Smokey Robinson (1978)
"Cruisin'", Smokey Robinson (1979, #4 Pop)
"I've Made Love To You A Thousand Times" (1983, #68 R&B)
"Why Do Memories Hurt So Bad", Smokey Robinson (1987)
"The Philly Dog", Earl Van Dyke
"Baby I'm Glad Things Worked Out So Well", Marvin Gaye
"Lost For Words", The Four Tops



Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 20:34pm


MARVIN "MARV" TARPLIN (1941-2011)

ROLLING STONE

Smokey Robinson Guitarist Marv Tarplin Dead at 70 Musician co-wrote 'Tracks of My Tears,' many more

By MATTHEW PERPETUA
OCTOBER 5, 2011 10:00 AM ET

Marv Tarplin, the Motown guitarist and songwriter behind Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, died on Friday at his home in Las Vegas at the age of 70. His cause of death has not yet been determined.

Tarplin began his career at Motown in the late Fifties as the guitarist in the Primettes, a teenage girl group that later evolved into the Supremes. He was drafted into Robinson's band, where he would go on to write the memorable chord progression at the center of the group's classic hit "Tracks of My Tears."

In addition to his work with Robinson, Tarplin collaborated with Marvin Gaye on the hits "I'll Be Doggone" and "Ain't That Peculiar." The guitarist never stopped working with Robinson, continuing to write, record and perform with the singer until Tarplin's retirement in 2008.

BILLBOARD

Marv Tarplin, Miracles Guitarist, Dies at 70
by Marc Schneider, N.Y. | October 05, 2011 9:55 EDT

Marv Tarplin, the guitarist whose riffs and melodies helped frame the sound of one of Motown's biggest acts, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, died on Friday (Sept. 30) at home in Las Vegas. He was 70.

A cause of death has not been determined, a rep for the Miracles said.

Tarplin brought his first-rate guitar abilities to Motown in the late 1950s as a backing musician in the Primettes, a precursor group to The Supremes. When Smokey Robinson, already with the label, formed the Miracles he plucked Tarplin and made him an original member.

Known primarily as a vocal group, he was rarely used in promotional material for the wildly popular group during its heyday. Billy Wilson of the Motown Alumni Association called him the group's "secret weapon" in comments picked up by the BBC.

"You can't express how much this one man meant to those of us dreaming to make it in the music business," Wilson said. "His creative backbeat rhythms on guitar allowed the powers that be to find the creative juices to formulate what would become major classic hits for Motown."

As a songwriter, Tarplin co-wrote Miracles hits including "Tracks of My Tears," "My Girl Has Gone" and "The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage." Although "Tears" was not one of the Miracles' biggest charting songs, it is widely regarded as one of their finer moments and was covered by the likes of Aretha Franklin and Linda Ronstadt, who made it a Top 40 hit in 1975.

He later collaborated with Robinson on solo hits such as 1979's "Cruisin" and "Being With You." He also co-wrote songs for other Motown artists, including Marvin Gaye and The Four Tops. Tarplin continued touring with Robinson until he retired in 2008.

Tarplin is survived by three daughters. His wife, Sylvia, died in 2004.

THE NEW YORK TIMES

Marv Tarplin, Motown Guitarist and Songwriter, Dies at 70
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.
Published: October 4, 2011

Marv Tarplin, the Motown guitarist and songwriter who shaped the sound of Smokey Robinson and the Miracles and was a co-writer of “The Tracks of My Tears” and other hits, died on Friday at his home in Las Vegas. He was 70.

Marv Tarplin, standing at center with a guitar, with Smokey Robinson and the Miracles around 1962 in Detroit.

The latest on the arts, coverage of live events, critical reviews, multimedia extravaganzas and much more. Join the discussion. The cause of death has not been determined, a spokeswoman for the Miracles, Jeanne Sorensen, said.

Mr. Tarplin had a knack for coming up with catchy riffs and melodies. He was fooling around with a calypso song he had heard Harry Belafonte sing, rearranging the chords, when he came up with the three-chord vamp that formed the backbone of the 1965 hit “The Tracks of My Tears,” for which Mr. Robinson wrote some of the most poignant lines in pop music.

Mr. Tarplin wrote much of the music for several other Miracles hits, including “My Girl Has Gone,” “Going to a Go-Go” and “The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage.”

He also collaborated on several songs that Marvin Gaye recorded. Two of the songs he wrote for Mr. Gaye (with Mr. Robinson and others) reached No. 1 on the rhythm-and-blues charts in 1965: “I’ll Be Doggone” and “Ain’t That Peculiar.”

Mr. Tarplin first came to Berry Gordy Jr.’s Motown label in the late 1950s as a guitar player for the Primettes, a teenage girl group that later became the Supremes. Mr. Robinson, who was already with the label, auditioned the group and told the singers to keep working, but he hired away Mr. Tarplin on the spot to play for the Miracles. It was the start of a five-decade collaboration.

“Marvin was a brilliant guitarist whose music has always inspired me,” Mr. Robinson told the British newspaper The Guardian.

When Mr. Robinson began his solo career in 1972, Mr. Tarplin initially stayed with the Miracles in Detroit, but he moved to Los Angeles to work with Mr. Robinson the next year. Over the next decade he contributed music to many of Mr. Robinson’s most memorable songs as a solo artist, including the hit “Cruisin’ ” in 1979. He continued touring with Mr. Robinson until he retired in 2008.

Mr. Tarplin was born in Atlanta on June 13, 1941, and moved with his family to Detroit, where his mother enrolled him in piano classes before he picked up a guitar and found his vocation. He was walking into a Detroit nightclub called the Flame Show Bar when members of the Primettes shouted out to him, saying they had seen him from their rehearsal space across the street. Two of them, Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard, had gone to Northeastern High School with Mr. Tarplin. He agreed to become their guitarist, playing with them at their early gigs and attending their Motown audition. It was a decision that changed his life.

Mr. Tarplin’s wife, Sylvia, died in 2004. He is survived by their daughter, Talese Tarplin, and two daughters from another relationship, Lisa and Ebony Tarplin.

VARIETY

R&B songwriter-guitarist Marv Tarplin dies
Co-wrote hits for Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye
By CHRISTOPHER MORRIS

Songwriter-guitarist Marv Tarplin, who contributed to major hits by the Miracles, Smokey Robinson and Marvin Gaye, died Sept. 30 of unknown causes in Las Vegas. He was 70.

Born in Atlanta, Tarplin came to Motown Records as the accompanist for the Primettes, the Detroit girl group that became the Supremes. Tarplin's playing impressed singer-producer-songwriter Robinson, who drafted Tarplin as a full-time member of his vocal unit the Miracles in the late '50s.

Besides contributing his distinctive guitar work to the Miracles' singles and albums, Tarplin co-wrote several hits for the group with Robinson, including "The Tracks of My Tears" (No. 2 R&B/No. 16 pop, 1965), "My Girl Has Gone" (No. 3 R&B/No 14 pop, 1965), "Going to a Go-Go" (No. 2 R&B/No. 11 pop, 1966) and "The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage" (No. 10 R&B/No. 20 pop, 1967).

Additionally, he collaborated on the writing of Gaye's "I'll Be Doggone" (No. 1 R&B/No. 8 pop, 1965), "One More Heartache" (No. 4 R&B/No. 29 pop, 1966) and "Ain't That Peculiar" (No. 1 R&B/No. 8 pop, 1965)

Tarplin stayed on with the Miracles until Robinson's exit in 1972. He co-wrote Robinson's solo hits "Cruisin'," which reached No. 4 on the pop and R&B charts in 1979, and "Being With You," a No. 1 R&B and No. 2 pop entry in 1981.

After years backing Robinson on tour, Tarplin retired to Las Vegas in 2008.

He is survived by three daughters.

BBC

Miracles guitarist Marv Tarplin dies at 70

Marv Tarplin (top centre) joined The Miracles in 1958.

Marv Tarplin, Motown guitarist with Smokey Robinson and The Miracles, has died at his Las Vegas home aged 70.

Tarplin was one of the group's original members and co-wrote several of their hits including Tracks of My Tears, which was released in 1965.

He remained with the group until 1973, and continued to collaborate and tour with Robinson until retiring in 2008.

A spokeswoman for The Miracles said the cause of death had not yet been determined.

Born in Atlanta, Georgia, Tarplin first came to Berry Gordy Jr's Motown label in the late 1950s as a guitar player for the Primettes, a teenage girl group that later became the Supremes.

Robinson, who was already with the label, hired Tarplin on the spot to play for The Miracles.

He went on to co-write hits including My Girl Has Gone, Going to a Go-Go and The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage.

The guitarist also co-wrote I'll Be Doggone and Ain't That Peculiar for Marvin Gaye in the mid-60s.

After Robinson went solo in 1973, Tarplin continued their musical relationship and co-wrote the singer's hits Cruisin' and Being With You.

Billy Wilson of the Motown Alumni Association paid tribute to Tarplin as The Miracles' "secret weapon".

"You can't express how much this one man meant to those of us dreaming to make it in the music business," Wilson said.

"His creative backbeat rhythms on guitar allowed the powers that be to find the creative juices to formulate what would become major classic hits for Motown."

Tarplin is survived by three daughters.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 20:56pm


So, Rolling Stone Magazine calls Marvin Tarplin Smokey Robinson's guitarist; Billboard Magazine and the BBC call Marvin Tarplin The Miracles guitarist; The New York Times calls Marvin Tarplin Motown guitarist; and Variety calls him as R&B guitarist. Pathetic how Rolling Stone highlighted Smokey Robinson's name in their article on Marv Tarplin, but not the Miracles. I am going to flood that article with responses about how The Miracles should be inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 21:08pm


Roy...you really need to bring it down a peg. You are making this site unpleasant for the casual visitor like me with the endless posts about the Miracles. Perhaps you should direct your energies to people who can actually affect the nominations. But the 2012 nominations are in...so no matter how many posts you put out there, they will not change.

Posted by Paul on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 21:39pm


Paul wrote:

Perhaps you should direct your energies to people who can actually affect the nominations.

Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 21:39pm

I already emailed all those people!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.5.11 @ 22:50pm


There would be no tempts,supremes,stevie wonder marvin gaye mary wells with out the miracles. They should have gone in when Smokey went in

Posted by keith on Thursday, 10.6.11 @ 11:27am


"Without The Miracles, Motown would not be the Motown it is today".
Motown Founder

Berry Gordy Jr.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10.6.11 @ 12:52pm


...And so the rappers bypass The Miracles to get on the RRHOF's radar screen for nomination and induction ? I don't buy it . This is supposed to be THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. The best of the best. The most influential, the most important. The Miracles meet those qualifications in spades . Rolling Stone Magazine listed them among it's Top 50 IMMORTALS: THE 50 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME. Yet not even a nomination in 26 years ?? Motown's first group ? The artists whose success opened the doors to all of the rest ? Originators of the entire Motown genre ? The most historically important group on the label ? Their omission is a crime not only against them, but against Rock and Roll !!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10.6.11 @ 13:28pm


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/smokey-robinson-remembers-marv-tarplin-his-collaborator-of-six-decades-20111006

ANOTHER ARTICLE FROM ROLLING STONE ADDED TODAY ABOUT MARVIN TARPLIN

Smokey Robinson Remembers Marv Tarplin, His Collaborator of Six Decades' He was one of my best friends. This news is like a dagger to my heart'

By ANDY GREENE
OCTOBER 6, 2011 4:05 PM ET

R&B legend Smokey Robinson pays tribute to his great friend and collaborator Marv Tarplin, the Motown guitarist and songwriter, who passed away in Las Vegas last week.

Marv Tarplin was invaluable to my career. He's always been my most important collaborator.

I met Marvin way back in the day. You see, Diana Ross and I grew up together. When Berry Gordy started Motown she called me. She was still in high school then. She said, "Smoke, I've got this group that I want you to listen to. I want you to sign us to Motown." She came in and auditioned for me. There was four of them because they had another girl named Barbara. Marvin was playing guitar for them. At the time, the Miracles had no musicians whatsoever. We were getting ready to go on tour and we had all kinds of problems working with various bands on the road.

I asked Diana if we could take Marvin on tour with us. She said yes. The Supremes weren't popular at the time, so he just stayed with us. After they became the real Supremes and became who they became, he might have regretted it – but he never said anything like that to me. Now, Diana and I are very, very close. When she sees me today, the first thing she always says is, "Hey Smoke, what happened to my first guitar player?"

Marvin was very melodic. He had a way he strummed the guitar that was very soulful and very bluesy. That's what initially captured my attention. He came up with a lot of melodies that I wrote songs to. He always had the guitar riffs. He would give them to me on tape and I'd see what I could come up with. Together, we made "The Tracks of My Tears," "Going To A Go-Go" and many more. He was also one of my best friends. This is real tough loss.

Marvin was very inward unless you knew him. He never really looked for the limelight. He had enough because he was with the Miracles all those years. After I left, he stayed with them for two months. Then he called me. I had moved to Los Angeles. He said, "Hey man, I'm going to come out there to live with you. I don't like being here without you. I'll just come out there and we'll just write some songs." This was around 1973, and by 1975 we put out my solo album Quiet Storm.

He stayed in my touring band until 2008. By that point, I think he had had enough. He did get ill shortly after that, but I think he wasn't sick when he left. He had a touch of arthritis and his fingers weren't moving like they used to. He got to the point where he said, "Ok, that's it." He had been touring with me since 1961.

We last spoke three weeks ago. It was great conversation. We talked about music and he told me about a royalty check that he'd just gotten. The news of his death was like a dagger to my heart.

As told to Andy Greene.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.6.11 @ 20:39pm


"There would be no Tempts,Supremes,Stevie Wonder Marvin Gaye Mary Wells with out the Miracles. They should have gone in when Smokey went in"

Posted by Keith

You got THAT right !!

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10.11.11 @ 03:28am


LATEST ISSUE OF ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE WITH STEVE JOBS ON THE COVER.

THIS ARTICLE CALLS MARV TARPLIN MOTOWN GUITARIST AND MIRACLES GUITARIST

PAGE 24: TRIBUTES

BERT JANSCH, MARV TARPLIN, SYLVIA ROBINSON

MARV TARPLIN, MOTOWN GUITARIST

Miracles guitarist Marv Tarplin, who worked with Smokey Robinson for 50 years, died September 30th in Las Vegas. He was 70. Tarplin co-wrote some of the Miracles' greatest songs, including "Tracks of My Tears" and "Going to a Go-Go," as well as Marvin Gaye's "Ain't That Peculiar" and "One More Heartache." Robinson quit the Miracles in 1972, but Tarplin remained his guitarist until 2008, when he was sidelined by arthritis. "His guitar playing was very melodic, soulful and bluesy," says Robinson. "He was absolutely the most important collaborator of my career. Hearing the news of his death was like a dagger to my heart."

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.14.11 @ 07:18am


Marvin Tarplin qualifies for the Songwriters Hall of Fame. Smokey Robinson was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1990. There's a chance that Marv Tarplin could be inducted into both the Rock Hall and the Song Hall in the same year, if The Miracles are inducted in the Musical Excellence category in 2012 and Marv Tarplin is announced as a posthumous inductee for the 2012 Song Hall. The Rock Hall might even induct The Miracles in the Musical Excellence category, but induct Marv Tarplin separately in the sideman category. Oh wait, what am I saying, that's the same category now!! I really hope though that when the inductees for the 2012 Rock Hall are announced, we won't also be told that The Miracles are being inducted in the Musical Excellence category. I really hope all my emails to all the members of the nominating committee at the Rock Hall helps to stop that from happening and that the Rock Hall does the right thing and nominates all 7 Miracles in the main performers category in the future. So what if they have to induct Smokey Robinson a second time. The Hollywood Walk of Fame did!!

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.15.11 @ 05:55am


Smokey without the Miracles? Very strange.

Posted by Robert on Tuesday, 11.15.11 @ 11:33am


To induct Smokey Robinson without The Miracles is like inducting Laurel without Hardy. Inducting Larry and leaving out Curly and Moe.Inducting Diana and leaving out Mary and Florence. It just doesn't make any SENSE.The RRHOF knows it too, That's why they haven't been to give a suitable explantion as to WHY in 26 YEARS.

The Miracles' success as a GROUP positively DWARFS his solo success. Everybody knows it.Even Smokey. That's why he has been pushing for their induction. But The RRHOF has been ignoring him for YEARS. No explanation. No reason WHY. NOTHING.NO INDUCTION In 26 YEARS.For one of the most deserving,and influential groups EVER.And now they're inducting RAPPERS and 80's MTV STARS ??

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 11.15.11 @ 16:38pm


"There would be no Tempts,Supremes,Stevie Wonder Marvin Gaye Mary Wells with out the Miracles. They should have gone in when Smokey went in"

Posted by Keith

Keith is 100% right. Members of The Miracles directly discovered The Supremes and Stevie Wonder. Marvin Gaye began HIS career as The Miracles' drummer...and they wrote his first 2 million-sellers. They also wrote Mary Wells' hits too.Mary Wells , though not in the Hall, has at least been nominated at least twice, in 1986 and '87.All of the other aforementioned artists have been inducted. Yet, The Miracles, the group that made their success possible, have failed to garner even ONE NOMINATION.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 11.15.11 @ 17:26pm


Bill G wrote:

Do you think that Smokey Robinson specified a solo induction , and left the other Miracles, Bobby Rogers, Claudette Robinson, Pete Moore, Marv Tarplin, Ronnie White, and Billy Griffin...out ?

What brought this on? Did you hear something? Why would he do that? Did he ever get into any arguments with the other members of The Miracles? Is Smokey Robinson secretly full of himself, and not even The Miracles know about it? Does the Rock Hall know something we don't? Is there some secret about The Miracles being kept by Motown that would shock the world if it were revealed? Were The Miracles lip-singing the whole time? Did any of you ever attend a Miracles concert? Did each of the members sing into the microphones? Has anyone from the Rock Hall ever given an explanation as to why The Miracles were not inducted in 1987? Robert Hilburn?

Although Robert Hilburn is probably the most outspoken of the "smaller is better" crowd, we don't know who came up with the idea of inducting Smokey Robinson and not the Miracles. It may have been as easy as someone saying "Hey, Smokey Robinson is eligible!" and everyone focused on Smokey. One thing I feel certain of - this was not Smokey's idea. He would have inducted everyone.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.28.11 @ 18:37pm


Bill, he doesn't seem to have made much of a stink about him being inducted & them not. I've read where he 'regrets' it & thinks they should be inducted, but you seem much more bent up about it than he does (IMO).

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 11.29.11 @ 07:18am


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1515/The-Miracles


"Bill, he doesn't seem to have made much of a stink about him being inducted & them not. I've read where he 'regrets' it & thinks they should be inducted, but you seem much more bent up about it than he does (IMO)".

Posted by Paul in KY

Well, Paul , that's because:

1) The Miracles have always been my all-time favorite group.
2) Their credentials DWARF that of many inducted artists, and
3) Because they truly DESERVE to be inducted...regardless of whether Smokey thinks so or not. (and he actually does.)

I think that THE MIRACLES got a RAW DEAL....and most other people think so too. That's why there are so many sites protesting their omission.

Of , by the way ,I ony made the first comment in that previous post . The other two were made by Roy and Charles Crossley respectively. You can see the entire thread on Charles' "Top Of The Charts: The Miracles" forum on the above link.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 12.6.11 @ 04:04am


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1515/The-Miracles

Sorry for the typos. I MEANT to say:

Oh , by the way ,I only made the first comment in that previous post . The other two were made by Roy and Charles Crossley respectively. You can see the entire thread on Charles' "Top Of The Charts: The Miracles" forum on the above link

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 12.6.11 @ 04:07am


Bill, understood all your points about why you care so much (and I basically agree with your take). Care to comment on my take on Smokey?

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 12.6.11 @ 10:28am


"Bill, understood all your points about why you care so much (and I basically agree with your take). Care to comment on my take on Smokey?"

Posted by Paul in KY

I have 2 theories,but please understand, I don't know how right I am about either of them:

The first one is Charles Crossley's theory:

1)In 1987, when this fiasco occured, Smokey's solo career was HOT, hotter than it has ever been before or since. He had a Top 10 Gold Album, "One Heartbeat,that boasted 4 hit singles , 2 of which had hit the Top 10, won a Grammy Award for one of the tracks, "Just To See Her", and,at that time,these events put Smokey on the RRHOF's radar screen. Someone at the RRHOF realized that Smokey was eligible, and everyone focused solely on Smokey.At that time ,the other Miracles had long since retired: Their last big hit, the #1 smash "Love Machine", had been 12 years before..and they had since retired.Smokey graciously accepted the induction...but he may (or may not) have known that it was on the basis of the Miracles' collective works that he was being inducted.The NomCom put him on the Nominees list, and he went in alone.

2) In the early days of the RRHOF, an unfortunate practice at the time was to induct ONLY the lead performer of certain notable pioneering groups...IF THE FRONT MAN'S NAME WAS LISTED SEPARATELY. Examples:

HANK BALLARD was inducted without THE MIDNIGHTERS
DION DiMUCCI was inducted without THE BELMONTS
BUDDY HOLLY was inducted without THE CRICKETS
BILL HALEY was inducted without THE COMETS
JAMES BROWN was inducted without THE FAMOUS FLAMES
and SMOKEY was inducted without THE MIRACLES.
(Although BILLY WARD was the leader of THE DOMINOES, He was not the group's lead singer, CLYDE McPHATTER and JACKIE WILSON were.They were each inducted on the basis of their solo careers...(and Clyde also with THE DRIFTERS), but the GROUP has yet to be inducted).

In time,this practice was abandoned, but the Hall Of Fame,so far,has not gone back and retroactively inducted these earlier groups...it should have happened YEARS AGO.

3)The CLAUDETTE ROBINSON THEORY:

Original Miracles member (and Smokey's ex-wife) Claudette Robinson, in a recorded interview with SOUL PATROL,stated that she thinks Smokey got inducted alone based on his songwriting...but she also added that she didn't know why the RRHOF had since failed to do a second induction of the entire GROUP. She stated: "We'll just have to wait and see what happens".(the only problem with THAT is CURTIS MAYFIELD, another phenomenal songwriter, was inducted as a solo artist....but ONLY after his group, THE IMPRESSIONS were inducted FIRST (notice that Curtis' name was NOT "up front" of his group).

4)There is a final theory, but it is not a popular one...and I HOPE that I'm wrong about this one:
Smokey simply wanted to be inducted alone, then realized what he did...and changed his mind after the fact.
But, this is simply inconsistent with the kind of person Smokey is. Case in point: 20 years ago, he received and individual star on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME. In 2009 The MIRACLES finally got a GROUP STAR. Here is his reaction on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrtGhh3qj0

I tend to agree with Charles Crossley. I think that Smokey would have included the entire group.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 12.6.11 @ 12:44pm


http://www.soul-patrol.net/rb_claudette.ram

Claudette Robinson of The MIRACLES -recorded interview with SOUL PATROL.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 12.6.11 @ 12:46pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZKoOnbE6Jk&feature=related

Tom Meros' interview with original Miracles member BOBBY ROGERS

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 12.6.11 @ 14:05pm


No Miracles anywhere!!!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.7.11 @ 06:50am


Bill, excellent comments vis a vis Smokey. I'm thinking it may have been Theory #2.

Appreciate your dedication to The Miracles.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 12.7.11 @ 07:57am


Thanks,Paul. Let's hope they don't get inducted posthumously. Ronnie White passed away in 1995, and we just lost Marv Tarplin on 9/30/11.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 12.8.11 @ 03:30am


**JANN WENNER**

"ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME CONTROVERSY"

(From Wikipedia)

"Wenner has endured quite a bit of controversy during his career, as it relates to his involvement in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Fans and supporters of several artists, which include Steve Marriott, Chicago, Deep Purple, KISS, The Monkees, Electric Light Orchestra, Yes, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Motörhead, Jethro Tull, Linda Ronstadt, The Miracles, The Marvelettes, Mary Wells, The B-52s, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Rush, The Guess Who, Bachman–Turner Overdrive and The Moody Blues, have placed a large amount of blame on Wenner for keeping them out of the Hall of Fame. They claim Wenner has lobbied to keep them from consideration and nomination to the Hall based on personal bias and a dislike for their music. Supporters of Beatles/Mersey Beat champion and manager, Brian Epstein, also feel that he has been unfairly precluded from nomination for honor in the Non-Performer category. This omission has given rise to much speculation as to the possible reasons for Wenner's consistent snubbing of Epstein's arguably inestimable contribution to the infrastructure of rock and roll."

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 13:43pm


http://www.goldminemag.com/blogs/mary-miracles-marvelettes-motowns-missing-from-rock-hall#comments

****THE MIRACLES****

"ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME CONTROVERSY"

From Wikipedia:

"In 1987, Smokey Robinson was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist. In a move that has since sparked much controversy, the other original Miracles – Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White, Pete Moore,Marv Tarplin, and Claudette Rogers – were not inducted. Nor was '70s Miracles lead singer Billy Griffin. This has miffed Robinson, Motown alumnus, music industry insiders,Disc Jockeys, and Miracles fans, who feel the entire group deserves induction. Particularly so, since Rolling Stone Magazine had already listed The Miracles among its Immortals—The 50 Greatest Artists Of All Time and because the group has three songs on The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame's own list of The 500 Songs That Helped Shape Rock and Roll, and also due to their historical importance as Motown's first group. The Miracles as a group were honored with the national Rhythm and Blues Foundation's Pioneer Award in 1997, and inducted into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame in 2001.
New York City's newspaper, The Village Voice, in its issue of October 30, 2009, in reporting on the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame's 25th Anniversary Concert, stated in an interview with Smokey, that he expressed "regret" that the rest of The Miracles weren't inducted into the Hall Of Fame with him.[16] In December, 2010, Goldmine, the famous oldies music magazine, in its continuing series on "Artists Who Should be in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, But Are Not", focused on The Miracles, Marvelettes, and Mary Wells. About The Miracles, author Phill Marder stated :"If the Supremes got in with Diana Ross and the Vandellas made it in with Martha Reeves and the three other Tops made it in with Levi Stubbs, how could the Miracles, who were much more important, not get in with Smokey?" Read more: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame still missing 3 Motown stalwarts Little Anthony and The Imperials, on their 2009 induction into the RRHOF, mentioned The Miracles as well. yet, The RRHOF Induction Committee has continued to ignore the group, for unknown reasons.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 13:51pm


GOLDMINE MAGAZINE recently selected THE MIRACLES as one of the "20 GREATEST DOO-WOP GROUPS OF ALL TIME"

**THE MIRACLES**

Most Motown groups sounded like, well, Motown. But The Miracles, particularly their early releases, fit into doo-wop right down to the primitive, garage-like sound of the recordings. Even the group’s initial effort, “Got A Job,” was a direct response to The Silhouettes’ doo-wop standard “Get A Job.” “Bad Girl,” “Shop Around,” “I’ve Been Good To You,” “I’ll Try Something New,” “Way Over There” and “Depend On Me” all permeated doo-wop radio playlists before the group evolved into a giant hit machine.



OTHER FAMOUS GROUPS NOT INDUCTED WHEN THEIR LEAD SINGERS WERE

From Goldmine

"If the reasoning is that the Hall of Fame’s policy at the outset was that just the main star was inducted, that policy has changed as The Attractions were inducted with Elvis Costello, the Texas Playboys made it with Bob Wills, the Pips were inducted with Gladys Knight, the Imperials with Little Anthony, the Vandellas with Martha Reeves and the Heartbreakers with Tom Petty.
So perhaps the Hall of Fame should have a special segment this year to announce the induction of The Crickets and The Comets along with The Miracles and The E Street Band.
At the same time, perhaps a committee could be formed to study the arguments concerning not only The Blue Caps and The Rebels, but also The Midnighters (with Hank Ballard), The Famous Flames (with James Brown), The Belmonts (with Dion), The Wailers (with Bob Marley), The Silver Bullet Band (with Bob Seger) and Crazy Horse (with Neil Young).
Ballard’s records were almost always with the Midnighters. In fact, he tried a go without them, but quickly reassembled them when success didn’t follow. Yes, he wrote “The Twist” (see the fourth installment of this series), but The Midnighters performed the song – and the dance. Brown was a superstar with and without The Famous Flames, but who would have been there with his cape if not for The Flames? Dion had a solid, hit-filled career after leaving The Belmonts. But Dion & The Belmonts were one of early Rock’s most successful vocal groups, and The Belmonts had a few hits of their own after Dion left."

"Meanwhile, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame…let’s start cleaning up some injustices and get some of the deserving supporting cast members inducted with their leaders.

Better late than never."

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12.9.11 @ 14:12pm


Once again, Diana Ross has already been inducted as a Supreme (though there is nothing remotely supreme about her), and to put it quite frankly, that's the only work she's ever done that matters. If one of the most important Motown acts of all time, The Miracles, can't be inducted why should Diana Ross be a double inductee and get honoured for her lackluster solo career?

Not just "no" to Diana Ross, HELL NO to Diana Ross.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 12.12.11 @ 15:30pm


****From THE DETROIT NEWS****

Dated December 08. 2011 8:12PM


Motown's Miracles to appear on PBS' 'Pop, Rock & Soul' tonight

Article by Susan Whitall/ Detroit News Music Writer

Fans can get a historic last glimpse of several founding members of Motown's Miracles Thursday night on the T.J. Lubinsky-produced music program "Pop, Rock & Soul," at 11 p.m. on Detroit Public Television, Channel 56 (WTVS). The show repeats at 9 p.m. Friday, 10 p.m. Saturday and 10 p.m. Sunday on the station.
The concert will feature what could be Miracle Bobby Rogers' last onstage appearance with the group.
Rogers, one of the original Miracles and a prolific co-writer with Smokey Robinson (they co-wrote "First I Look at the Purse" for the Contours), has been in failing health for some time. But he was able to perform with the group, including original member Claudette Robinson, and newer Miracles, lead singer Mark Scott, Tee Turner and Dave Finley, at the taping in Pittsburgh earlier this year.
Text DETNEWS to 64636 to get breaking news alerts on your phone.
The Miracles were Smokey Robinson's original group at Motown, and the unique harmonies of Rogers, Robinson, Ronald White and Pete Moore were integral to songs like "Shop Around," "Oo Baby Baby," "Going to a Go-Go," "You Really Got a Hold on Me," and their other hits, as was the guitar playing of Marv Tarplin, who died recently in Las Vegas.
Robinson split from the Miracles in 1972 to go solo.
It's been a tough few years for the Miracles. Apart from the death of Tarplin, the group is conspicuously absent from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, although Smokey Robinson is in — as a solo act. By any standards, it's hard to separate Smokey from the Miracles. Most of his best-known hits date from when he and the Miracles formed a tight unit, but chances of the Miracles getting in seem to grow dimmer every year.
swhitall@detnews.com
(313) 222-2156


From The Detroit News:

http://detnews.com/article/20111208/ENT04/112080461/Motown’s-Miracles-to-appear-on-PBS’-‘Pop--Rock-&-Soul’-tonight#ixzz1gNh7sV3l

Ronnie White died in 1995, Marv Tarplin just passed on Sept. 30 of this year, and now word comes to us that Miracle Bobby Rogers is doing poorly.
In the meantime , THE BEASTIE BOYS, LL Cool J,Eric B and Rakim, and Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five, artists that WEREN'T even BORN when The Miracles' hits ruled the airwaves, are getting nominated and or inducted year after year.

The systematic BLACKLISTING of The Miracles from the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME has to rank among the worst cases of BIAS and POLITICS in Pop Music history.

Their SONGS are in the Hall Of Fame.
Their LEAD SINGER is in the Hall Of Fame.
Their clothes are in the Hall Of Fame

....BUT THEY AREN'T.



Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 12.12.11 @ 23:32pm


Inducting Smokey Robinson without The Miracles was like inducting Elton John without Bernie Taupin.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.14.11 @ 19:29pm


Wait a minute, Smokey Robinson was nominated in 86 and 87, and inducted in 87. Why didn't he say anything to the Rock Hall to stop them from nominating him as Smokey Robinson again, and nominate The Miracles?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12.18.11 @ 16:47pm


http://soulfuldetroit.com/archive/index.php/t-3991.html

Smokey was never told that he was being inducted on the basis of his entire career, including the Miracles' collective works. He just thought he was being inducted for his solo career. Unlike Martha Reeves , who had a very limited solo career after The Vandellas , Smokey has had a successful solo career after The Miracles , although it wasn't as successful as his career with them was. The RRHOF deemed to induct him solo, then close the books , leaving BOBBY, RONNIE, PETE, CLAUDETTE, and MARV out in the cold. And , if THEY didn't get in , you KNOW that BILLY GRIFFIN , as a replacement member, wouldn't get in either.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 12.21.11 @ 14:49pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iRiGqYeoQ4

***HEY, CHECK THIS OUT***

When Smokey left THE MIRACLES in 1972 , his wife Claudette and Marv Tarplin left too. On his 1980 solo album,WARM THOUGHTS, Smokey and Claudette did this duet song together , "WINE WOMEN ,AND SONG.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 12.21.11 @ 14:58pm


***WINE WOMEN ,AND SONG***

Written by Miracles members Smokey Robinson and Marv Tarplin, along with Pam Moffett.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 12.21.11 @ 15:05pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Bpj8GtnPw&feature=related

****MY GIRL HAS GONE by THE MIRACLES (1965)****

A Top 20 BILLBOARD POP HIT that reached the Top 10 on the R&B Charts

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 12.24.11 @ 12:08pm


***** R.I.P.Marv Tarplin of The Miracles *****

10/11/2011

Marv Tarplin, guitarist for Smokey Robinson and The Miracles and a songwriter in his own right, died on 30 September 2011 at the age of 70.

Marvin Tarplin was born on 13 June 1941 in Atlanta, Georgia. His family moved to Detroit, Michigan, where his mother enrolled him in piano classes. Eventually Mr. Tarplin would take up the guitar, which became his instrument of choice. He began his professional career after walking into the Flame Show Bar in Detroit and he was recruited as the guitarist for the girl group The Primetttes (two of who went to school with Mr. Tarplin). He played at their early gigs, and it would be when he played at their audition for Motown that his life would be changed forever. The audition was seen by Smokey Robinson, who recruited him as one of The Miracles. The Miracles released their first single, "It," in 1959. They released three more singles in 1959 and 1960, none of them doing very well on the charts. It was with "Shop Around," released in 1960, that The Miracles would have their first hit. The single went to #2 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #1 on the Billboard R&B chart.


The Miracles would go onto become one of the most successful R&B groups of all time. Much of their success would be due to Marv Tarplin's unique playing style, which was a bit reminiscent of Curtis Mayfield. In addition to playing guitar, Mr. Tarplin would also have success as a songwriter. He co-wrote several of The Miracles' hits, including "I Like It Like That," "Tracks of My Tears," "Come On Do the Jerk," and "Going to a Go-Go." He also wrote hits for Marvin Gaye, including "Ain't That Peculiar," "I'll Be Doggone," and "One More Heartache."


In 1972 Smokey Robinson and his wife Claudette left The Miracles. Marv Tarplin remained with The Miracles until 1973, when he joined Smokey Robinson in his solo career. Mr. Tarplin would continue to collaborate with Mr. Robinson, co-writing several of his solo hits. Among the songs which Mr. Tarplin co-wrote were "Cruisin'" and "Being With You." He would continue to play guitar with Smokey Robinson until 2008, when he retired from touring.


Marv Tarplin was often referred to as "The Miracles' secret weapon" and there can be no reason to doubt that his guitar work was much of the reason for the group's success. The combination of Smokey Robinson's powerful vocals and Marv Tarplin's singular guitar work gave The Miracles a sound unlike any other R&B group at the time. Indeed, Marv Tarplin is often counted as one of the greatest guitarists of all time. As a songwriter he was also very talented, winning the BMI award for Songwriting multiple times. Indeed, it was Mr. Tarplin who created the distinctive three chord riff that formed the backbone of the song "The Tracks of My Tears." A great guitarist and a great songwriter, Marv Tarplin was an immensely talented man.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 12.28.11 @ 10:11am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2AO3cYA8sE&feature=related

****GOING TO A GO-GO by THE MIRACLES****

**A 1966 clip of a 1965 million-seller-Billboard # 11 Pop,# 2 R&B from NBC's HULLABALOO**

"Going to a Go-Go" is a 1965 single recorded by The Miracles for Motown's Tamla label. Issued in December 1965, "Going to a Go-Go" peaked at number 11 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States the following spring. In addition, the single peaked at number-two on the Billboard Hot R&B Singles chart and was The Miracles' fifth million-selling record.

Smokey Robinson sings lead on "Going to a Go-Go", which he co-wrote with fellow Miracles Pete Moore, Bobby Rogers, and Marv Tarplin.

Inspired cover versions by THE ROLLING STONES,PHIL COLLINS,THE HAGS, and SECRET AFFAIR.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 12.28.11 @ 12:14pm


http://rockhallmonitors.blogspot.com/2011/07/front-man-fever.html

Front Man: Smokey Robinson
Left Behind: the Miracles
Temperature: 103. Let’s face it, this omission borders on the obscene. Robinson did release records for End Records in 1958, but barring that, he would have been simply ineligible for the solo induction he received in 1987. The Miracles are a huge piece of Motown’s legacy, and are right up there with the Four Tops, the Temptations, and the Supremes. Seriously, Hall Of Fame, this is one that gravely needs correction.

Posted by Philip.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 01.1.12 @ 15:55pm


*****THE MIRACLES HOLLYWOOD STAR CEREMONY****



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrtGhh3qj0

****THE MIRACLES HOLLYWOOD STAR CEREMONY****

The MIRACLES get their star on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME,MARCH 20th 2009. Berry Gordy & Stevie Wonder pay tribute to the group. Claudette Robinson accepts on behalf of The Miracles. PETE MOORE, BOBBY ROGERS,SMOKEY ROBINSON, BILLY GRIFFIN, and RONNIE WHITE'S widow GLORIA are present. MARV TARPLIN (notoriously publicity shy) didn't show up, but still got his star, according to my friend Jeanne Sorenson, of The Miracles Organization. R.I.P. Marv

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 01.2.12 @ 14:03pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrtGhh3qj0

****THE MIRACLES HOLLYWOOD STAR CEREMONY****

The MIRACLES get their star on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME,MARCH 20th 2009. Berry Gordy & Stevie Wonder pay tribute to the group. Claudette Robinson accepts on behalf of The Miracles. PETE MOORE, BOBBY ROGERS,SMOKEY ROBINSON, BILLY GRIFFIN, and RONNIE WHITE'S widow GLORIA are present. MARV TARPLIN (notoriously publicity shy) didn't show up, but still got his star, according to my friend Jeanne Sorenson, of The Miracles Organization. R.I.P. Marv

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 01.2.12 @ 14:04pm



If the Rock_Hall does indeed induct the Midnighters, Crickets and Comets, they will have corrected a longtime injustice. Good for them. about 9 hours ago
It will be interesting to see which backing groups the Rock_Hall inducts. Wailers? E Street Band? Miracles? Blue Caps? Famous Flames? about 9 hours ago
Wow! Could there be others? RT @jetfan1 Exclusive! Crickets, Comets, Midnighters to be inducted into the #RockHall about 9 hours ago

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 25, 2012

ARE The Crickets, Midnighters, Comets Rock Hall Bound? The Comets, Crickets and Midnighters may be inducted into the Rock Hall this year.

Got this info from a trusted source.

Rock Hall not confirming this or denying it. They will send out a press release if this happens.

But The Miracles were not sidemen. Smokey was a Miracle to begin with. All those other groups can go in as sidemen using addendums, but not The Miracles. The Miracles have to be nominated and inducted in the main performers category. All 7 members! If the Rock Hall just adds the Miracles to Smokey Robinson's 1987 induction, would Billy Griffin (Smokey's replacement/Love Machine) be included?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01.26.12 @ 22:28pm


Roy,

If they do indeed add the Miracles to Smokey Robinson's induction I would say that there is a chance they might include Billy Griffin. We'll just have to see what happens.

Posted by Greg F on Friday, 01.27.12 @ 04:23am


****MOTOWN GROUPS with songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME:****

THE MIRACLES: FOUR.

1.Shop Around
2.The Tears Of A Clown
3.The Tracks Of My Tears
4.You've Really Got A Hold On Me


THE SUPREMES: THREE.

1.Stop In The Name Of Love
2.Where Did Our Love Go
3.You Keep Me Hanging On


THE TEMPTATIONS: TWO.

1.My Girl
2.Papa Was A Rolling Stone


THE FOUR TOPS: ONE.

1.Reach Out I'll Be There


MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS: ONE

1.Dancing In The Street


GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS: ONE

1.Midnight Train To Georgia*


THE JACKSON FIVE:ONE

1. I Want You Back


*Recorded after the group left the Motown label.

THE SUPREMES: INDUCTED
THE TEMPTATIONS:INDUCTED
MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS: INDUCTED
GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS: INDUCTED
THE JACKSON FIVE: INDUCTED
THE FOUR TOPS: INDUCTED

** THE MIRACLES: N O T I N D U C T E D **

....and not EVEN NOMINATED, NOT EVEN ONCE, IN OVER 25 YEARS!!

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 01.29.12 @ 16:00pm


The Midnighters and The Famous Flames were not sidemen either. Both Hank Ballard and James Brown started their careers as members of their respective groups. Neither group started with their lead singer's names in front of the group. Those groups'ORIGINAL names were The Midnighters and The Famous Flames. PERIOD. James Brown and Hank Ballard weren't EVEN the original lead singers of the groups. Bobby Byrd and Henry Booth were.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 01:03am


Buddy Holly & The Crickets
Bill Haley & His Comets
Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Dion & The Belmonts
Hank Ballard & The Midnighters

When the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame first started, if someone's name was separate from the rest of the group, the nominators tended to nominate the main person rather than the whole group.

Buddy Holly was inducted in 1986 without The Crickets, Bill Haley was inducted in 1987 without His Comets, Smokey Robinson was inducted in 1987 without The Miracles, Dion was inducted in 1989 without The Belmonts, and Hank Ballard was inducted in 1990 without The Midnighters.

The 2012 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inductees were announced back in December: Beastie Boys, Donovan, Guns N' Roses, Laura Nyro, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Small Faces/The Faces, Freddie King, Cosimo Matassa, Glyn Johns, Tom Dowd, and Don Kirshner. The ceremony is in April.

Now there is news that the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame will be making corrections to some of the inductions from 1986, 1987, 1989 and 1990. There is a possibility that they will be inducting The Crickets, The Comets, The Miracles, The Belmonts and The Midnighters in 2012. No word yet on how they will be inducted, whether they will be addendums to the inductions of 1987-1990, or inducted in the sidemen category. The Crickets, The Comets, The Belmonts and The Midnighters were indeed sidemen, but The Miracles were not!!

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles started out as The Miracles. They were the Miracles for 8 years, and they produced albums and charted as The Miracles for 8 years, and then they became Smokey Robinson and the Miracles for 7 years, and then they became The Miracles again for 5 more years after Smokey Robinson left for a solo career. The Miracles were Motown's first group. Claudette Rogers of The Miracles was called the First Lady of Motown. The Miracles have to be nominated and inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as The Miracles in the main performers category; not the sidemen category, and Smokey Robinson should be inducted with them as well as a Miracle. Inducting the group as The Miracles (not Smokey Robinson & The Miracles) would also allow for the induction of Smokey Robinson's replacement, Billy Griffin. If The Miracles do get nominated in the main performers category, they will be inducted on the first try. All inductees would vote for them! They are a shoe-in! Get them in the right way and get it over with!

The Young Rascals changed their name to The Rascals and they were inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 1997 as The (Young) Rascals. This was an induction for their entire body of work, both, as The Young Rascals and The Rascals. So inducting The Miracles as The Miracles would count their entire body of work in the induction, including the work produced as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, since Smokey Robinson was a Miracle to begin with!

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should consider Smokey Robinson's 1987 induction an early induction for his solo career, or admit that they made a mistake. No one would die if The Miracles were nominated and inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in the main performers category and Smokey Robinson was inducted a second time. Many artists have been inducted twice. So what! No laws are being broken! The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame better not induct The Miracles in the sidemen category and without Smokey Robinson. Lots of people would be very angry if this happened and wouldn’t consider it a legitimate induction. The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame better do the right thing! Nominate and induct The Miracles in the main performers category where they belong! The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted The Supremes in 1988, The Temptations in 1989, and The Four Tops in 1990. Why not The Miracles in 1987?

The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducted 12 members of the Grateful Dead in 1994, including Robert Hunter, the lyricist for the band! That's right, they inducted the lyricist as a member of the band! They inducted a non-performer in the performers category! So, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame better induct Marvin Tarplin with The Miracles. Marvin Tarplin was a full member of the Miracles. He was not a sideman. He was their guitarist and songwriter.

The Miracles inductees:

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin "Marv" Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

THE BREAKDOWN

The Miracles | Smokey Robinson and the Miracles | The Miracles

26 STUDIO ALBUMS (TOTAL)
19 STUDIO ALBUMS (The Miracles plus Smokey Robinson and the Miracles without Billy Griffin)
14 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (Smokey Robinson & Billy Griffin combined)
12 STUDIO ALBUMS as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Smokey Robinson)
07 STUDIO ALBUMS as The Miracles (with Billy Griffin)

13 Hits as The Miracles
13 Hits as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

13 Years as The Miracles
07 Years as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1961 Hi... We're The Miracles
02. 1961 Cookin' With The Miracles
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 The Fabulous Miracles
05. 1963 The Miracles Doin' Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 Christmas With The Miracles
07. 1964 I Like It Like That
08. 1973 Renaissance
09. 1974 Do It Baby
10. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
11. 1975 City Of Angels
12. 1976 The Power Of Music
13. 1977 Love Crazy
14. 1978 The Miracles

THE MIRACLES (1955-1965) | (1973-1978)

SINGLES

01. 1961 Ain't It Baby
02. 1961 Shop Around
03. 1962 I'll Try Something New
04. 1963 A Love She Can Count On
05. 1963 Mickey's Monkey
06. 1963 You've Really Got a Hold on Me
07. 1964 (You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man in You
08. 1965 Come on Do the Jerk
09. 1973 Don't Let It End ('Til You Let It Begin)
10. 1974 Do It Baby
11. 1975 Don't Cha Love It
12. 1975 Love Machine
13. 1977 Spy for Brotherhood

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

STUDIO ALBUMS

01. 1965 Going To A Go-Go
02. 1966 Away We A Go-Go
03. 1967 Make It Happen
04. 1968 Special Occasion
05. 1969 Time Out For Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
06. 1969 Four In Blue
07. 1970 What Love Has...Joined Together
08. 1970 A Pocket Full Of Miracles
09. 1970 The Season For Miracles
10. 1971 One Dozen Roses
11. 1971 The Tears Of A Clown
12. 1972 Flying High Together

SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES (1965-1972)

SINGLES

01. 1965 My Girl Has Gone
02. 1965 Ooo Baby Baby
03. 1965 The Tracks of My Tears
04. 1966 (Come 'Round Here) I'm the One You Need
05. 1966 Choosey Beggar
06. 1966 Going to a Go-Go
07. 1966 Whole Lot of Shakin' in My Heart (Since I Met You)
08. 1967 I Second That Emotion
09. 1967 More Love
10. 1967 The Love I Saw in You Was Just a Mirage
11. 1969 Abraham, Martin and John
12. 1969 Here I Go Again
13. 1970 Tears of a Clown

THE MIRACLES

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)
THE 20?? HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 20?? ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (The Miracles)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 01:35am


The Miracles will indeed be inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 2012. I got an email from their management. They did not specify how The Miracles will be inducted though or which members.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 02:37am


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

1988 The Supremes
1989 The Teptations
1990 The Four Tops
2012 The Miracles

SAD!!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 02:57am


The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame

1988 The Supremes
1989 The Temptations
1990 The Four Tops
2012 The Miracles

SAD!!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 02:58am


Maybe the Miracles are getting an automatic induction in the main performers category and Smokey will still get a second induction.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 07:32am


http://www.youtube.com/rocknrolluniverse

Email from Tom Meros of Rock And Roll Universe

The Miracles will be given an automatic induction in the main performers category as "The Miracles" in 2012. Smokey Robinson will be given a second induction. Technically, inducting Smokey again violates the Rock Hall's own rules. Because of the 25 year rule, Smokey either should not have been inducted the first time, or cannot be inducted the second time, but Smokey will indeed be a two time inductee. It will probably be Berry Gordy who gives the induction speech, if not, then they could bring back Hall & Oates to give the induction speech again to poke fun at the first induction of 1987. All 7 members of The Miracles will be inducted.

THE 2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Claudette Rogers
06. Marvin "Marv" Tarplin
07. Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 08:35am


THE MIRACLES

THE 1983 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1987 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 1990 SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2001 VOCAL GROUP HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)
THE 2006 KENNEDY CENTER HONORS (Smokey Robinson)
THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME (The Miracles)
THE 2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME (The Miracles)
THE 20?? HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 09:04am



I'll be delighted to hear the OFFICIAL announcement from the RRHOF that The Miracles are inducted this year. Long overdue - however, referral to an email from The Miracles management - who might that be?

Is Tom Meros an official rep for the RRHOF or The Miracles? Can't find those credentials anywhere.

Posted by Jeanne on Tuesday, 02.7.12 @ 12:01pm


I think that the person that came closest to summing up the right way to handle The Miracles / RRHOF controversy was The Claw. This is what he posted on this site 4 years ago:

"That said, I would say most of us will agree with you that The Miracles should have been inducted along with Smokey. It was a big mistake they only inducted him, one of their biggest. The reason I think they shouldn't be nominated, is not that I don't think The Miracles deserve to get in the Hall, but that a second induction for Smokey would make his solo work more important than it is. Sure, the name one of his solo hit singles was the main influence to name a genre "Quiet Storm", but his solo work is not nearly as influential as his work with The Miracles. On the other hand, both The Impressions and Curtis Mayfield's solo work made a big impact on music history, in different genres.

I do think The Miracles should be inducted, but not the regular way. I don't want to see them appear on a ballot, I want the Hall of Fame to admit and correct their mistake by inducting them right away, adding "& The Miracles" to Smokey's name. And off course, they should get an invitation to the induction ceremony. That way, their work could get celebrated without inducting Smokey Robinson twice."

Posted by The Claw on Friday, 10.24.08

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 01:02am


Actually, I agree with the automatic induction of The Miracles in the main performers category. They shouldn't have to go through the nominating process, since it was the Rock Hall's fault they were not nominated and inducted as The Miracles to begin with in 1987.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 10:03am


Odds remain that The Miracles will not be inducted anytime soon. Smokey Robinson's induction- and the Hall's write-up focusing on The Miracles- supports that. So, I would not be expecting it. Not saying it's not deserved, but...

Posted by JR on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 10:54am


What the hell are you talking about! It has already been confirmed that The Miracles are getting an automatic induction in 2012. All 7 members!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 13:50pm


Let's just wait until tomorrow and just see what happens . It won't be long now . If it takes just one more day to correct a 26-year-old error,I'm all for it. (and I'm probably the biggest Miracles fan on this site,and you guys KNOW it).

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 16:50pm


I certainly won't deny that.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 16:55pm


" I certainly won't deny that".

Posted by GFW

You're supposed to say, "I Second That Emotion" (LOL)

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 17:04pm


I don't think there would be any need to "Shop Around" for a more dedicated Miracles fan than you Bill G. (Sorry for the pun, but I couldn't resist)

Let's hope this news on the Miracles holds true, I wonder what made the Hall finally come to their senses and recognize their error. It's not often they like to acknowledge their mistakes, that's for sure.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 17:16pm


If it doesn't happen, you will see the "Tracks Of My Tears".

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 17:28pm


If it does, I'll say, "I Like It Like That".

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 17:36pm


Okay Roy - Where did you hear that The Miracles induction for all 7 members was confirmed? It is currently 7:40 pm!

Posted by Jeanne on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 19:41pm


http://www.youtube.com/rocknrolluniverse

A media guy named Tom Meros rockroll-history@usa.net. He is a friend of The Miracles. He has interviewed members of The Miracles. You can watch on Youtube. He emailed me on January 28 and I am sure Bill G. got the same email. I didn't check my mail until two days ago. He said that Warren "Pete" Moore got a phone call from the Rock Hall on January 27 telling him that The Miracles were being inducted in April. They are being inducted in the main performers category as "The Miracles" and Claudette, Marv, Pete, Bobby, Ronnie, Smokey have all been notified of their upcoming induction. He does not know about Billy, but obviously he will be told. He also told me not to release this information yet until the Rock Hall makes it official. But like I said I did not read my email until two days ago, and by that time, Future Rock Legends was already informed about the possible inductions of The Miracles, The Crickets, The Comets and The Midnighters by a blogger/twitter named Tom Lane, who knows people at the Rock Hall. We all knew it was coming. Blame Tom Lane.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02.8.12 @ 20:54pm



" Daryl Hall and John Oates gave the induction speech for Smokey Robinson in 1987.

Who should give the induction speech for The Miracles? Who ever gives the speech better go all out and talk about how ridiculous it was for the idiots at the Rock Hall to induct Smokey Robinson without the Miracles in 1987, and state the reasons.

If the group had never been renamed they would have been inducted as The Miracles in 1987.

They never should have been renamed!

Posted by Roy 4/2011

Well, Roy, Hall & Oates would be a good choice.

But...I think that , BY FAR, THE BEST CHOICE TO INDUCT THE MIRACLES would be none other than BERRY GORDY JR...The man who was there with them FROM THE BEGINNING.

The Miracles were with Berry since BEFORE the formation of Motown Records...in fact, Berry,and The Miracles actually FOUNDED Motown together.It is an well-documented historic fact that it was Smokey who convinced Berry to form his own record label IN THE FIRST PLACE....The Miracles were Motown's first group, and without their success,Motown, as we know it today, would have NEVER EXISTED.(Berry said this himself at The Miracles' Hollywood Walk of Fame induction 3 years ago).
Without The Miracles,there would have been NO MOTOWN. That means: NO SUPREMES, NO TEMPTATIONS, NO FOUR TOPS,NO MARY WELLS, NO JR WALKER & THE ALL-STARS, NO MARVIN GAYE OR STEVIE WONDER, NO JACKSON 5 OR MICHAEL, NO VANDELLAS OR MARVELETTES OR COMMODORES (I think you get the picture).The appearance and subsequent success of THE MIRACLES marked a fundamental shift in the direction of popular music.They were just THAT IMPORTANT.They were the spark that caused the worldwide explosion called MOTOWN. And, just IMAGINE how different the world of music (and in general) would be today if Motown had never existed.
It's long past time for this groundbraking and historically important group to get their due. The HIGHEST-RANKING Motown group on ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE'S TOP 50 "IMMORTALS" LIST...and the ONLY Motown group with no less than 4 songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME.
....And an induction by BERRY GORDY would mean that things would have finally gone FULL CIRCLE for The Miracles.

Too bad that Marv and Ronnie won't be here to see it.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 00:58am


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-adds-six-backing-groups-to-the-class-of-2012-20120209

The Miracles will be added to Smokey Robinson's originally 1987 induction. The induction will now be listed as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 01:37am


http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2012/02/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-to-induct.html


***** OKAY GUYS, HERE IT IS*****

We can FINALLY put all of the RUMORS and hearsay to rest.

This is the FIRST OFFICIAL WORD on just WHO is getting inducted tomorrow.

VINTAGE VINYL NEWS, on the above website has reported that THESE ARE THE ARTISTS GETTING INDUCTED:

1. THE MIRACLES:

The inductees will be: Smokey Robinson (1987) - Claudette Rogers, Marv Tarplin, Pete Moore, Bobby Rogers, Ronald White. (Billy Griffin didn't make it.Oh well, at least he got a H.W.O.F. star with the group. Smokey joins the "Clyde Mc Phatter Club)

2. THE MIDNIGHTERS:
Hank Ballard (1990) - Alonzo Tucker, Henry Booth, Charles Sutton, Sonny Woods, Lawson Smith, more (HANK BALLARD joins the Clyde McPhatter club.The original MIDNIGHTERS all get in, and several later replacement members. See my article on "THE MIDNIGHTERS" in Wikipedia.

3.THE FAMOUS FLAMES:

James Brown (1986) - Bobby Byrd, Johnny Terry, Sylvester Keels, Nash Knox, Nafloyd Scott, Bobby Bennett, "Baby Lloyd" Stallworth (JAMES BROWN joins the McPhatter Club - all of the original Flames will go in - including Bobby Byrd and Johnny Terry, plus long serving members Bobby Bennett and Lloyd Stallworth.

4. THE COMETS.

Bill Haley (1987) - Johnny Grande, Billy Williamson, Rudy Pompilli, Al Rex, Franny Beacher, Ralph Jones, Nick Nastos, John Lane and many, many more. BILL HALEY will be joined by ALL of the Comets (SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED DECADES AGO.)

5.THE CRICKETS.

Buddy Holly (1986) - Jerry Allison, Joe B. Maudlin, Niki Sullivan, Tommy Allsup, Carl Bunch, Joe B. Mauldin, J.I. Allison, Sonny Curtis

(BUDDY HOLLY, LIKE BILL HALEY, joins the "Clyde McPhatter Club" and FINALLY , The Crickets get in).

6 .THE BLUE CAPS

Gene Vincent (1998) - Willie Williams, Jack Neal, Dickie Harrell, Cliff Gallup, Johnny Meeks

(FINALLY, THE BLUE CAPS JOIN GENE VINCENT INTO THE HALLOWED "HALL".

This info was actually brought to my attention just minutes ago.This report was actually dated TOMORROW,2/09/2012 . Appearently, someone at the Hall spilled the beans to Vintage Vinyl News.

Here's more:

A special committee made the decision to add each of the groups to the Hall. Terry Stewart, President and CEO of the Hall, told Cleveland.com "There was a lot of discussion about this. There had always been conversations about why the groups weren't included when the lead singers were inducted.

"Very honestly, nobody could really answer that question -- it was so long ago. . . . We decided we'd sit down as an organization and look at that. This is the result. You're looking at some of the lynchpins between rockabilly and vocal-harmony and straight-ahead rock 'n' roll. It speaks to when this music took off. It's a great statement about the early years."

So, there you have it. It's now official.

STILL LEFT OUT:(if this report is complete:

1. The Wailers.

2. The Belmonts.

3. The E Street Band.

4. The Silver Bullet Band.

Please tell me if there's any more.

CONGRATS TO ALL OF THE INDUCTEES, and, if deceased, to their families and decendants.



Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 02:05am


Bill G. - I don't think that any of the originally inducted performers will be inducted agin. It appears that the originally passed over sidemen/fellow performers will be added on to their original induction.

I would add possibly Big Brother & The Holding Company, The Mothers of Invention, Wings and the un-inducted members of the Patti Smith groups.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 02:42am


Many Thanks,Gassman . I guess we'll get more news tomorrow. Meanwhile, I'm going to bed. It has been a LOOONNNG DAY !!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 03:49am


Wait a minute! Is Smokey Robinson being inducted again or not?! Are The Miracles trophies going to read 2012 or 1987? I'm pissed off again!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 04:35am


That vintage vinyl news website stated they are not sure which members from throughout a group's history will be inducted. We have to wait and see what happens. I'm sure Billy Griffein will be inducted with The Miracles if the other Miracles tell the Rock Hall to do it!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 04:57am


That vintage vinyl news website only tells you which groups are being inducted, and who their lead member was and what year the lead member was originally inducted. It does not say whether or not the lead member will be inducted again.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 06:09am


The Miracles will be added to Smokey Robinson's originally 1987 induction. The induction will now be listed as Smokey Robinson & The Miracles.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 01:37am

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 06:56am


http://www.wix.com/reedmusic/the-miracles

THE MIRACLES WEBSITE BREAKS THE NEWS

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 08:17am


This really sucks!! This is who The Miracles page at The Rock Hall lists as inductees:

Warren "Pete" Moore
Robert "Bobby" Rogers
Ronald "Ronnie" White
Claudette Rogers
Marvin "Marv" Tarplin

It does not appear that they are inducting Smokey Robinson or Billy Griffin as Miracles!! I hope someone gets them to change that!!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 09:20am


The Rolling Stone article states "The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will make up for past oversights at this year's induction ceremony by admitting the backing groups of six first-generation rock stars."

It looks like I was off a bit off as these groups will be considered inducted this year. It also appears that The Miracles will be considered by the Hall of Fame as Smokey Robinson's back-up band. They are pretty much saying with this that when Smokey Robinson was inducted in 1987, they felt they were essentially inducting The Miracles with just Smokey Robinson. Finally realizing their mistake, they decided to induct the additional Miracles as pretty much an add on to Smokey's original induction.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 12:13pm


Terrific! While induction via a regular vote didn't look likely, it's great that the Rock hall has gone ahead and made this decision (not just for The Miracles, but the other groups).

Smokey R. is in as a solo act- primarily because of his work with The Miracles, so it's no surprise if his name isn't listed. As for the other guy... not sure.

Posted by JR on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 12:13pm


Roy, the induction will eventually say Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, so Smokey will be one of the listed artists. Therefore, Billy Griffin is the only one left out.

FRL needs to update the Biggest Snubs page. Remaining snubbed backing groups:

The Wailers
The Silver Bullet Band
The E-Street Band
The Belmonts
The Mothers of Invention
Big Brother and the Holding Company
Patti Smith Group
Wings

Personally, I think Big Brother and the Holding Company aren't that deserving. They weren't on enough of Janis's records to really be worth the induction. That would be like inducting The Beach Boys & The Wrecking Crew together except The Wrecking Crew were on far, far more records. Wings is also pretty needless as only two other people were in the band long enough and both had next to no input on what went down. Patti Smith Group is up in the air as well since, again, they don't cover her entire career and there's plenty of other female/male leads that had a consistent roster of people supporting them (even, Weird Al).

Totally think the other five should be in though (The Wailers, Silver Bullet Band, E-Street Band, Belmonts and Mothers of Invention). Would make for a great batch next year.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 15:22pm


BILLY GRIFFIN got da SHAFT. What's up with THAT ? He sang lead with the group from 1972-1978, and sang and co-wrote the biggest single (Love Machine,#1) and the biggest album (City of Angels, Double Platinum) that the group ever had !!! Also "Do It Baby", another million-seller, and "Don't Cha Love It" R&B TOP 10. I guess the Hall was only focusing on the 6 original members of The Miracles.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 16:03pm


IT'S ABOUT TIME !!! IT ONLY TOOK, WHAT? 26 YEARS ??

I WISH THEY HAD INFORMED MARV TARPLIN. AT LEAST HE COULD HAVE KNOWN HE WAS GOING IN BEFORE HE DIED ON SEPT.30TH.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 16:05pm


I think that , BY FAR, THE BEST CHOICE TO INDUCT THE MIRACLES would be none other than BERRY GORDY JR...The man who was there with them FROM THE BEGINNING.

The Miracles were with Berry since BEFORE the formation of Motown Records...in fact, Berry,and The Miracles actually FOUNDED Motown together.It is an well-documented historic fact that it was Smokey who convinced Berry to form his own record label IN THE FIRST PLACE....The Miracles were Motown's first group, and without their success,Motown, as we know it today, would have NEVER EXISTED.(Berry said this himself at The Miracles' Hollywood Walk of Fame induction 3 years ago).

Without The Miracles,there would have been NO MOTOWN. That means: NO SUPREMES, NO TEMPTATIONS, NO FOUR TOPS,NO MARY WELLS, NO JR WALKER & THE ALL-STARS, NO MARVIN GAYE OR STEVIE WONDER, NO JACKSON 5 OR MICHAEL, NO VANDELLAS OR MARVELETTES OR COMMODORES (I think you get the picture).

The appearance and subsequent success of THE MIRACLES marked a fundamental change in the direction of popular music.They were just THAT IMPORTANT.They were the spark that caused the worldwide explosion called MOTOWN. And, just IMAGINE how different the world of music (and in general) would be today if Motown had never existed.

It's long past time for this groundbraking and historically important group to get their due. The HIGHEST-RANKING Motown group on ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE'S TOP 50 "IMMORTALS" LIST...and the ONLY Motown group with no less than 4 songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME.
....And an induction by BERRY GORDY would mean that things would have finally gone FULL CIRCLE for The Miracles.

Too bad that Marv and Ronnie won't be here to see it.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 17:49pm


We've got until April. I'm sure Smokey Robinson and The Miracles will do their part to get Billy Griffin added to the induction. I've emailed Tom Meros about it.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 19:42pm


***THE Mighty MIRACLES..."THE SHOWSTOPPERS" finally get in!! ***

from WIKIPEDIA:

During this period, The Miracles were the most popular group on the label. The Miracles' success paved the way for all future Motown stars, and, as a result, the group was the headlining act of the Motor Town Revue, a nationwide package concert touring show which showcased Motown artists. Their exciting live performances earned them the nickname, "The Showstoppers".Commenting to Rolling Stone Magazine, Bob Seger said, "I used to go to the Motown revues, and the Miracles always closed the show. They were that good, and everybody knew it."[6] The group also influenced a significant number of outside performers as well, particularly The Beatles, who covered The Miracles' "You Really Got a Hold on Me" on their second album, With the Beatles. John Lennon of the Beatles acknowledged Smokey Robinson as one of his favorite writers, and named the Miracles' "I've Been Good To You" as one of his favorite songs. Another Beatles song, Ask Me Why, also written by Lennon, was influenced by The Miracles' hit "What's So Good About Goodbye". George Harrison also greatly admired Robinson and paid tribute to him in his 1976 song 'Pure Smokey', while The Rolling Stones covered the group's 1965 hit "Going to a Go-Go". The Hollies covered the group's 1963 smash "Mickey's Monkey". The Zombies also covered "You've Really Got a Hold On Me" and "Going To A Go-Go" [6], while The Who covered The Miracles' hit, "I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying". While the British Invasion meant the end of many American artists' recording careers, it had very little effect on The Miracles, who continued having hits throughout this period. In fact, The Miracles were a major influence on many British Invasion groups in particular.In addition, artists of many diverse musical genres have covered their songs, including Jazz, Country & Western, MOR, Reggae, Hip-Hop, Rock, and Pop, as well as R&B/Soul.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 20:21pm


So answer me this:

Why did the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induct...

Terry Sylvester with The Hollies?

Sammy Hagar with Van Halen?

Timothy B. Schmit with The Eagles?

Joe Walsh with The Eagles?

Plus all those replacement members with Guns 'N Roses and The Grateful Dead?

But not Billy Griffin with The Miracles?

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 02.9.12 @ 20:31pm


Good grief, I was so hoping this topic would go away with this week's announcement. Enough already. The horse is dead and the bones have disintegrated.

Posted by Paul on Friday, 02.10.12 @ 17:12pm


Sorry, Paul. One more dead horse to disintegrate:

The Miracles' "Hall of Fame" Awards:

Grammy Hall Of Fame

Vocal Group Hall Of Fame

Doo-Wop Hall Of Fame

Michigan Rock and Roll Legends Hall of Fame

The Peoples'Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame

Hollywood Walk Of Fame

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 02.11.12 @ 04:31am


Looks like Smokey's not gonna get that second induction. If The Miracles had gone in as a GROUP in the FIRST place, maybe he might have had a chance.Now, their induction will just be added to his,and it'll be a done deal.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 02.17.12 @ 02:26am


" So answer me this:

Why did the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induct...

Terry Sylvester with The Hollies?

Sammy Hagar with Van Halen?

Timothy B. Schmit with The Eagles?

Joe Walsh with The Eagles?

Plus all those replacement members with Guns 'N Roses and The Grateful Dead?

But not Billy Griffin with The Miracles?"

Posted by Roy

Who knows, Roy . They didn't induct ALONZO TUCKER with THE MIDNIGHTERS... And HE was the FOUNDER OF THE GROUP !!! How weird is THAT !!!

(not to mention that he wrote several of their songs, and hit tunes for numerous other artists, including JACKIE WILSON (Baby Workout, You Don't Know What It Means, No Pity (In The Naked City).

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 02.22.12 @ 14:50pm



I had to request pages on The Miracles, The Midnighters, and The Famous Flames, because frankly, FRL simply didn't have them.I also requested pages on The Dramatics, The Valentinos, Bobby Byrd, (a moot point now, since he just got inducted with the Famous Flames), and The Main Ingredient.I couldn't believe that FRL didn't have one on the Miracles. I guess that , like many of the general populace,It was felt that , once Smokey got in ,it was a "done deal".

Classic R&B and Soul, it seems , just doesn't seem to be a great priority. RUBY & THE ROMANTICS still don't have a page here, despite the fact that they, like The Valentinos,have had their tunes covered by NUMEROUS artists.Yet, the group that stole their name,"The Romantics" have a page here.

I just don't want to see these people , and other artists like them , forgotten in the sands of time .

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has been rightly accused of ignoring ENTRE GENRES of music. Progressive Rock is one.(RUSH, Chicago, etc) Classic late 60's, early 70's Soul & R&B is another. Where are the nominations/ inductions for groups like:

The Spinners (nominated, but passed over)

The Delfonics

Blue Magic

The Manhattans (criminally overlooked,actually started in the early sixties, but , like The O"Jays, didn't take off until the 70's.)

The Stylistics.

The Chi-Lites (fronted by one of the greatest songwriters EVER ...the late Eugene Record)

Barry White (I can't BELIEVE He's never even been considered)

Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes. (the GROUP should go in, not just Teddy P. solo.

The Dramatics (Charles Crossley has been recently pushing for them, and rightly so).

WAR. (they'll be back. Just Watch)

Gene Chandler (another one criminally overlooked. people here keep talking about artists that don't write their own material, but they can't say that about "The Duke"...because he did.He was also a producer,arranger,and Record Executive, working with artists such as Mel and Tim, and Johnny Nash 40 Chart hits in 26 years...but they're considering JOE TEX instead ???)

Dionne Warwick ( I don't to hear it . If you're considering Karen Carpenter, you've GOT to consider HER - Soft Rock-Soft Soul).

Brook Benton (if Dinah's in why not HIM ??)

Chuck Jackson (ANY DAY NOW was just one of MANY hits by this man).

When will THESE artists be considered ??

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 02.29.12 @ 15:54pm


"Thus, while it is certainly commendable to gain notice of the legacy of the Miracles; I am not certain an induction is necessary when Smokey Robinson is already inducted.'

Posted by LAX.

NOT.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 03.5.12 @ 14:03pm


http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120306/ENT04/203060444/1361/Smokey-Robinson-to-induct-Miracles-into-Rock-and-Roll-Hall-of-Fame



From THE DETROIT NEWS-Dated March 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm:

Smokey Robinson to induct Miracles into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

By Susan Whitall
Detroit News Music Writer
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Smokey Robinson (JOE KLAMAR/AFP/Getty Images)

When Motown's Miracles are finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame April 14 in Cleveland, a familiar face — and voice — will take the stage with them: Smokey Robinson, co-founder of the group, lead singer and principal songwriter until 1972. And he won't just be watching.

"Oh yes, I am inducting them in fact," Robinson said excitedly, by phone from Los Angeles. "I've been working on that for probably 20 years." In 1987, he was inducted as a solo act, without the Miracles.

As the years passed, and group members grew older (Robinson is a seemingly ageless 72 now), it seemed less likely that the group would get in on its own.

And yet so many of Robinson's best-loved hits were with the Miracles, with the voices of Warren "Pete" Moore, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Bobby Rogers and Ron White way up in the mix on songs like "You've Really Got a Hold on Me," "Ooo Baby Baby," "The Tracks of My Tears," "The Tears of a Clown," "Going to a Go-Go" and "I Second That Emotion."

In 1967, the group's name was changed from "The Miracles" to "Smokey Robinson and the Miracles." In 1972, Robinson left the group to go solo.

Fortunately, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame redressed its oversight by inducting the Miracles and several other backing groups en masse this year: The Crickets (Buddy Holly), The Midnighters (Hank Ballard), the Famous Flames (James Brown), The Comets (Bill Haley) and The Blue Caps (Gene Vincent).

Inducted as the Miracles, along with Moore, Claudette Robinson, Rogers and White, will be the group's guitarist/songwriter Marv Tarplin.

Robinson has been working on getting the Miracles in since his own induction, "because they deserve to be in there," he says. "So they're finally getting in, I'm inducting them and I'm very excited about that. The only thing I regret is that (the late) Ron White isn't here to see it."

Also being inducted this year: Beastie Boys, Donovan, Guns N' Roses, Laura Nyro, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Small Faces/The Faces, Freddie King, Ahmet Ertegun, Don Kirshner, Cosimo Matassa, Tom Dowd and Glyn Johns.

Tickets for the April 14 induction ceremony are sold out, but fans may buy tickets ($20 each) to attend a live broadcast on a giant screen at the Rock Hall in Cleveland. Doors open at 7 p.m., the show starts at 8 p.m. (and goes on for three-plus hours). Tickets are available at rockhall.com and at the Rock Hall Box Office.

swhitall@detnews.com

(313) 222-2156

Comment:

What is MARV TARPLIN? CHOPPED LIVER? Smokey said that " The only thing I regret is that (the late) Ron White isn't here to see it". MARV just died on September 30th 2011. He was one of the Miracles too. WHAT ABOUT HIM? He wrote many of The Miracles biggest hits, like THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS, GOING TO A GO- GO , I LIKE IT LIKE THAT, "JUST A MIRAGE, MY GIRL HAS GONE , CRUISIN' and more! They just acknowledged him on the Grammys. They'd BETTER invite his DAUGHTER Talese Tarplin to accept...SHE HAS A RIGHT TO BE THERE!

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 03.6.12 @ 17:13pm


ARTISTS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BY SMOKEY ROBINSON

01. Little Anthony & The Imperials (2009)
02. The Miracles (2012)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.6.12 @ 21:27pm


http://www.claudetterobinson.com/wp/photos/

The Miracles* onstage LIVE in England in the early sixties: (L to R): Bobby Rogers,Claudette Robinson, Pete Moore, Ronnie White, Smokey Robinson

*(when they were still simply known as THE MIRACLES...NOT "Smokey Robinson" and The Miracles).

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.7.12 @ 02:51am


***CONGRATS TO The CLAW***
He is the ONLY one who correctly predicted what should, and did happen to solve The Miracles' RRHOF controversy, and he did it HERE ...right on FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS FOUR YEARS AGO, when he said, quote:

"I do think The Miracles should be inducted, but not the regular way. I don't want to see them appear on a ballot, I want the Hall of Fame to admit and correct their mistake by inducting them right away, adding "& The Miracles" to Smokey's name. And of course, they should get an invitation to the induction ceremony. That way, their work could get celebrated without inducting Smokey Robinson twice."

Posted by The Claw on Friday, 10.24.08 @ 04:17am


Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.7.12 @ 03:30am


Thanks, Bill G. It was the only way that made sense. To be honest, I didn't think the RRHOF would actually admit they made a mistake.

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 03.7.12 @ 03:58am


I'm glad that they (finally) did admit their mistake , because all six groups are deserving of inducton. But look at how LONG it took; many key members of those groups are now DEAD, and can't share in the honor.
But, at least 4 of the original 6 Miracles are still alive. R.I.P. to MARV and RONNIE.

I'm sure that Gloria White will probably accept for her late husband. Will Talese Tarplin accept for her Dad ? Does anybody know ?

Also, since the RRHOF Special Committee is starting with older groups first, does anyone know why THE BELMONTS didn't get the nod ?

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.7.12 @ 15:55pm


"Also, since the RRHOF Special Committee is starting with older groups first, does anyone know why THE BELMONTS didn't get the nod ?"--Bill G.

This is just something of a guess, but I would say the following are all contributors:

1. Dion was eligibile for induction as a soloist when he was inducted.
2. His solo career was much bigger than his group's career.
3. The Belmonts had a few hits without Dion (I know, the Miracles had a string without Smokey, but I also would have had the Miracles go through the regular induction process for much of the same reasons.)

I believe that if they watn to acknowledge the Belmonts, it'd be best to nominate "Dion And The Belmonts" for a future ballot.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 03.7.12 @ 19:37pm


I don't think that is the reason why The Belmonts are not being inducted this year. I think it's because they already have too many inductees for this year.

Next year's BONUS (CORRECTIONS INDUCTIONS)

The Belmonts
The Mothers of Invention
The Silver Bullet Band
The E Street Band
The Wailers
Wings
The Revolution

Some will be in the main performers category and some will be in the sidemen category (award for musical excellence).

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03.7.12 @ 20:40pm


Maybe we'll see what happens.

Posted by Greg F on Wednesday, 03.7.12 @ 21:02pm


The problem, as I see it, is this:

We DON'T KNOW if this "Special Committee" thing is just a one-time deal,or if they will continue to induct other deserving groups in the future that didn't get in when their leads did. No one seems to know , and the RRHOF isn't talking.

Like Greg said, we'll just have to wait and see...and hope that they don't make any more mistakes like this in the future.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 03.8.12 @ 01:50am


...It took them LONG ENOUGH to correct THIS ONE !!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 03.8.12 @ 01:55am


NO EXPLANATION for the snubbing of The Miracles' Billy Griffin, and THE MIDNIGHTERS' Alonzo Tucker.(the group's founder).

As far as Famous Flames members NaFLOYD SCOTT, SYLVESTER KEELS , and NASH KNOX, I think that they were snubbed because they were only with the group a short time.They quit after only the second recording session. The Flames that were inducted were the group members who in the group the longest - 10-11 years: original members Bobby Byrd and Johnny Terry,and long serving members LLOYD STALLWORTH and BOBBY BENNETT. They also sang on the most hit records that featured The Flames.I think that the H of F made the right call with The Famous Flames that were inducted..

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 03.8.12 @ 02:06am


http://www.flickr.com/photos/alcue/552815231/in/gallery-salva17-72157623307171424/

**JAMES BROWN & THE FAMOUS FLAMES** on a live TV appearance in Philly back in 1967: Foreground: Left to Right : Famous Flames members LLOYD STALLWORTH, BOBBY BYRD,BOBBY BENNETT, and JAMES BROWN with famed Philly DJ JERRY BLAVAT. Background, members of The James Brown Band.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 03.8.12 @ 02:14am


Speaking of James Brown in general, I actually like that the 6 groups added aren't listed with their frontmen. It leaves some room for the J.B.s to be considered by special committee as well.

Posted by rockstar23 on Thursday, 03.8.12 @ 02:18am


I don't see the J.B.s getting in by special committee...probably in the sidemen/musical excellence category...and only AFTER The original James Brown Band does...if ever. As far as James Brown goes, The Famous Flames are the group first identified and most identified with Brown.They represent the very beginning of his career, and are the group that first introduced James Brown to the world. The James Brown Band didn't come along until years later,and The J.B.s years after that.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 03.9.12 @ 03:16am


The Rock Hall did not call The Miracles Motown's first group in their biography for the Miracles, nor did they call Claudette Rogers Robinson the first lady of Motown. Shame!

Are Smokey and Claudette still married to each other

Posted by Roy on Friday, 03.9.12 @ 09:58am


The Miracles were with Berry Gordy since BEFORE Motown Records was formed. I don't just mean the Motown Label proper ( which they never recorded for... they were on the Tamla subsidiary label), but the Motown Record Corporation PERIOD.

People have been giving the title "First Lady Of Motown" to Mary Wells , Claudette Robinson, AND Diana Ross. BUT ...the Founder and first president of Motown, Berry Gordy Jr. has only given that title to only ONE person...Claudette Robinson. Why ?

From Wikipedia :

"Motown founder Berry Gordy gave Claudette the official title of the "First Lady of Motown", as noted in his autobiography, because, as a member of the Miracles, (Motown's first group and first recording act), she was the first female artist ever signed to a Motown-affiliated record label (Tamla).

Other opinions may differ, but , if Berry says it's Claudette (despite his long-time affair with Ms. Ross), that's good enough for me.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 03.9.12 @ 19:13pm


http://www.marvintarplin.com/

Jeanne Sorensen was a very good friend to departed Miracles member MARV TARPLIN. She has posted a brand-new tribute website to Marv , who passed away this past September 30th 2011. The site can be viewed at the ABOVE LINK.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 03.9.12 @ 19:15pm


http://www.marvintarplin.com/

***MARV TARPLIN 1941-2011***

Tribute by JEANNE SORENSEN of THE MIRACLES ORGANIZATION.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 03.12.12 @ 19:49pm


The Supremes, The Temptations, and The Four Tops should have NEVER gotten inducted before The Miracles, since The Miracles' success made Motown possible, and all of those other acts (and many others) benefited from them. Marvin Gaye began his career as The Miracles' drummer. His first two million-selling records "Ain't That Peculiar" and I'll Be Doggone" were written by Miracles Robinson,Rogers,Moore, White, and Tarplin.Steve Wonder was discovered by Miracle Ronnie White. The Supremes were discovered by Miracle Smokey Robinson. 9 of the first 12 Temptations hits were written by The Miracles,in one combination or another.The Miracles wrote some early Supremes sides too.Also songs by The Contours,Mary Wells, Kim Weston, Brenda Holloway,The Four Tops (their million-selling 1970 hit "Still Water" was written by Smokey (and Frank Wilson), and Miracle Marv Tarplin played on it). One of the J-5's most popular early songs, "Who's Loving You" was a Miracles song. All of these artists directly benefitted from being on Motown.

But, without The Miracles, there wouldn't have ever even BEEN a Motown.

Think about it.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.14.12 @ 16:33pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles#Grammy_Hall_of_Fame

MORE SONGS in the Grammy Hall Of Fame than ANY OTHER MOTOWN GROUP. PERIOD.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 03.14.12 @ 16:38pm


Why isn't Smokey upset about not being in the hall as a Miracle?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.20.12 @ 22:21pm


I think Smokey will bring his 1987 trophy with him to the ceremony and hold it up backstage for the press with the Miracles holding their 2012 trophies.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.20.12 @ 22:23pm


***FROM DIGITAL DREAM DOOR***

**THE MIRACLES**

Smokey Robinson inducted solo - 1987
Of all the oversights in 27 years of the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame, none was more outrageous than the exclusion of the Miracles when Smokey Robinson alone got in during Year Two of the Hall's existence. Not even eligible as a solo performer yet by the Hall's own rules, Smokey was honored while the group he fronted, whose name his did not even appear separately from until 1967, were left out altogether. Considering Smokey was one of the most generous stars ever when it came to including the other members in his songwriting, so they'd get royalties rather than just performance pay, it had to rankle him that they didn't get to share this glory too. No more. The Miracles, it should go without saying, were the heartbeat of Motown in the 60's, one of the best vocal groups ever formed and owners of some of the greatest records rock has ever produced. With their induction the Hall has remedied its most shameful chapter and the biggest miracle is it took this long to do it.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 03.22.12 @ 21:52pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO66w3pbcCA


THE MIRACLES have long been considered one of the greatest vocal groups of all time.

One listen to this, and you'll understand WHY.


***OOO BABY BABY (ACAPELLA)***

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 03.23.12 @ 04:21am


I wonder if Smokey Robinson will be giving the induction speech for The Miracles separately from induction speech for The Blue Caps, The Comets, The Crickets, The Famous Flames, and The Midnighters. That is how it should be done.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 03.25.12 @ 07:50am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Uhnbs6S0o&context=C4c114f0ADvjVQa1PpcFM2P1ofm6CYqrp-VWbETIY_x1-aGlEeKkA=

***MARV TARPLIN of The MIRACLES 1941-2011***


Jeanne Sorensen of The Miracles Organization has posted a new MARV TARPLIN TRIBUTE on YouTube. It can be viewed at the above site.

"MARVIN TARPLIN: A Celebration of Life".

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 03.25.12 @ 22:03pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyXvahXTRK0&feature=related


****" I NEED SOME MONEY" by THE MIRACLES (1958)****


.....doesn't everybody ?



Featuring leads By Smokey and Claudette Robinson and Pete Moore.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 03.27.12 @ 13:42pm


Miracles bass singer and vocal arranger PETE MOORE co-wrote The Miracles' Platinum-selling album, "City Of Angels", with Smokey's replacement, BILLY GRIFFIN. Billy sang lead on the Miracles' biggest single ("Love Machine") and biggest album EVER. Also on the million-selling single "Do It Baby", and the Top 10 R&B hit, Don't-Cha Love It". Griffin recorded 7 albums with the group between 1973-1978. But, Billy was NOT listed among the Miracles' RRHOF inductees. Has Pete spoken up for him ? Will the RRHOF listen ? Is Billy being barred from induction because he is not an original member ??

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 03.29.12 @ 20:54pm


Was You Really Got A Hold On Me by The Miracles the inspiration for You Really Got Me by The Kinks?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 03.31.12 @ 23:51pm


http://www.beatlesebooks.com/hold-on-me

Not sure, Roy. but The Miracles were a DEFINITE influence on THE BEATLES and several other British Invasion groups... As this article on The Beatles' Books website points out:

""Of all the cover songs the Beatles recorded for this album, "You Really Got A Hold On Me" held a special place in their hearts. It was recently recorded by its' writer William "Smokey" Robinson and his group The Miracles and first hit the charts only earlier that year, debuting on the Billboard singles chart on January 12, 1963. Yet just over six months later, the Beatles chose to translate the song themselves. In fact, this was the first song they chose to record for the album.

The Beatles had a special attachment to the music of the Miracles. Many influences can be sited that have contributed to the sound and style of the Beatles music, but Smokey Robinson and the Miracles were definitely on the top of that list during the latter half of 1963. Many of the Lennon/McCartney songs appearing during this period were said, by the authors themselves, to have been inspired by Smokey, including "This Boy," "All I've Got To Do" and "Not A Second Time." So engrossed as they were to capturing the feel of the Miracles music, they decided to cover one of their songs themselves.

In retrospect, an event occurring in 1980 during the recording of Lennon's "Double Fantasy" album sheds some light on the impact of The Miracles music on the career of the Beatles. While recording the vocal track for the hit song "Woman," Yoko commented that John sounded like a Beatle. Lennon corrected her by saying, "Actually I'm supposed to be Smokey Robinson at the moment, my dear, because the Beatles were always supposing that they were Smokey Robinson."

The admiration the Beatles held for Smokey could also be seen as recent as the 2009 Grammy Awards. When Smokey appeared on stage to honor fellow Motown artists The Four Tops, Paul McCartney, who was in the audience, jumped to his feet and admiringly gave him a thunderous standing ovation, as if to honor the man who was one of the greatest influences of his career."

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.1.12 @ 00:02am


http://www.beatlesebooks.com/hold-on-me

Read the FULL ARTICLE at the above link.

Part 2:

"Songwriting History

William "Smokey" Robinson was born on February 19, 1940 in Detroit, Michigan. An uncle gave him the nickname "Smokey Joe" (later shortened to "Smokey") at a young age because of his love for cowboy movies. In 1955, Smokey formed a vocal group called "The Five Chimes" and then, with some personnel changes, it became "The Matadors." Among the new members of this group was Claudette Rogers who later became Smokey's wife.

As the lead singer of "The Matadors," Smokey began touring local hot spots in Detroit and, in 1958 under their new name "The Miracles," released records on End Records and Chess Records through his connection with his newly found friend Berry Gordy. When Smokey suggested to Berry the idea of forming his own record label, "The Miracles" were among the first acts signed to his "Tamla" label (which soon evolved into "Motown Records."

Smokey's close friendship with Berry led to his being appointed vice-president of Motown Records in 1961, as well as working as a successful artist, producer and songwriter for the label. The Miracles single "Shop Around" became the first number one single on the Billboard R&B charts for Motown (#2 on the pop charts). Their career with Smokey as lead singer/songwriter on Motown's "Tamla" label spanned twelve years and 27 top 40 hits on the Billboard pop charts, six of which reached the top ten, including "Mickey's Monkey" (#8), "I Second That Emotion" (#4) and "Baby, Baby Don't Cry" (#8). Their 1970 release "The Tears Of A Clown" was the only number one of Smokey's career, solo or otherwise.

The Miracles fourth top 40 pop hit was also their second top ten (peaking at #8), the self-penned classic "You've Really Got A Hold On Me." The single was released in Britain on the Oriole label but failed to make the charts, although it did get the attention of John Lennon who loved it enough to scarf it up for the Beatles to work up a powerful rendition.

The song has also been covered by many other artists, including Eddie Money and Greg Allman and Cher, and is also a 1998 Grammy Hall Of Fame inductee. The song has also been included in many motion pictures, such as "Nothing But A Man" (1964), "More American Graffiti" (1979), "Mermaids" (1990) and "Striptease" (1996). Smokey himself also did a rendition of the song on Sesame Street, highlighting how the letter "U" had such a hold on him.

Smokey's career as songwriter at Motown included a vast array of hits for other artists, including both "My Guy" by Mary Wells and "My Girl" by The Temptations. Other noteworthy examples are "The Way You Do The Things You Do" and "Get Ready" by The Temptations, "Ain't That Peculiar" and "I'll Be Doggone" by Marvin Gaye and "Don't Mess With Bill" by The Marvelettes. His immense contributions to the Motown label has earned him the title "The King Of Motown."

Smokey left The Miracles in 1972 to pursue a solo career, his final concert appearance with the group being July 16, 1972. While continuing his duties as vice-president of Motown, he scored three top 40 hits in 1975 before returning to the Billboard top 5 with "Cruisin'" (#4 in 1979) and the million selling "Being With You" (#2 in 1981). After a well documented cocaine addiction and divorce with Claudette, his career slowed, only to re-emerge in 1987 with two additional top 10 hits, the Grammy Award winning "Just To See Her" (#8) and "One Heartbeat" (#10).

As Smokey continues to record and perform periodically, one cannot underestimate the influence he has had on the music industry. Among many of his honors, he has received a star on the "Hollywood Walk Of Fame." (note: The Miracles have also recieved a star on The Walk Of Fame as a GROUP, making Smokey a double honoree) . Bob Dylan has referred to him as "America's greatest living poet." The 80's pop group ABC scored a #5 hit with a tribute song "When Smokey Sings," which charted in the top ten with Smokey's "One Heartbeat" single in 1987.

His influence on the Beatles has also been noteworthy. The Miracles' song "I've Been Good To You" has been revealed by John Lennon to be one of his all-time favorite songs, which lyrically influenced his 1968 song "Sexy Sadie." Lennon also reportedly used lyrical ideas from Smokey's song "You Can Depend On Me" in writing his 1963 ballad "All I've Got To Do." Even "I Am The Walrus" contains the "I'm crying" lyric taken from Smokey's "Ooh Baby Baby." George Harrison recorded the tribute song "Pure Smokey" on his 1976 album "Thirty-Three And 1/3." All in all, the delicately fragile vocal style of the "King Of Motown" has had and still has a tremendous impact on the music industry."

From Wikipedia:

"Although the influx of overseas artists comprising the British Invasion caused the end of many American artists' recording careers,they had very little effect on the Miracles,who continued having hit records throughout this period.In fact, many of the British Invasion acts were influenced by Motown acts, mainly The Miracles. Members of The Beatles later admitted that the group played a huge influence in their music. The effects of this influence became even more pronounced when The Hollies, The Zombies, The Who, and The Rolling Stones all began recording covers of Miracles' hits".

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.1.12 @ 00:06am


It is an acknowledged industry fact that The Miracles are one of the greatest groups of all time . What the RRHOF did to them in 1987 was CRIMINAL. They ALL should have been inducted back then...instead of only Smokey. They ALL should have been honored while all of the group's members were still ALIVE. Now, two of them are dead, and one is very ill.

Their induction 26 years after the fact will be a bittersweet one, at best.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.1.12 @ 00:12am


....and MARV TARPLIN'S 3 daughters have STILL NOT EVEN BEEN CONTACTED by the Hall Of Fame's administrators...2 weeks before the ceremony !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.1.12 @ 00:14am


http://www.cleveland.com/rockhall/index.ssf/2012/04/the_miracles_in_the_60s_we_lov.html

This is site for The Miracles' article from the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

For the next several days , each inductee will recieve special coverage in the newspaper...along with a special poster.

The Miracles are the first.

Here is the Article, written by Michael Sangiacomo:

Like the jilted lovers of their songs ready for a reconciliation, the Miracles happily come to Cleveland next week to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Righting an old wrong, the Rock Hall will enshrine the other members of the group alongside lead singer Smokey Robinson, who was inducted in 1987.
The three surviving members -- Warren "Pete" Moore, Claudette Rogers Robinson and Bobby Rogers will be inducted at the ceremony. Marvin Tarplin and Ronald White will be inducted posthumously.
Smokey Robinson will do the induction honors.
Even though Robinson was the face and voice of the group, the Miracles sound was a group effort, which is what made the exclusion in 1987 more painful.
"It was a slap in the face, very disappointing," said Moore, who co-wrote many of the Miracles hits. "We are the premiere group of Motown. We were there before there was a Motown. We set the pace for all the other artists to come after us. We were a little older, and the other artists looked up to us. How could we not be in there?"
Moore said the 2012 correction is welcome, if late.
"When Terry Stewart [Rock Hall president and CEO] called and told me we were to be inducted, he was apologetic," Moore said. "He said it should have been done years ago, everybody knew it. He said they received many, many calls over the years from angry fans."
Moore looks forward to the induction and the weekend of celebration
"It's long overdue," said Moore, 72, owner and CEO of the Las Vegas-based entertainment firm WBMM Enterprises.
Moore was a founding member of the Miracles along with Robinson, his childhood chum.
But more important than that, he co-wrote "Ooo Baby Baby" in 1965.
Flash back to junior high school dances held in church basements or fire halls in the 1960s, where girls waited for boys to ask them to dance. And boys waited for THE song they knew could melt any heart.
Never mind that the song is about a cheating man begging his woman for a second chance, it's the part where he expresses his undying love so beautifully that makes it one of the greatest love songs ever written.
Robinson's pleading voice and the smooth Miracles background vocals are so perfect, it's hard to tell where they end and the string section begins. The driving bass and drum make it a classic love song.
And it's less than three minutes long.
Moore laughed.
"Oh, man, that song," he said. "That's our national anthem. We had to play that every time we performed. Everybody loves it. That song is responsible for a lot of babies."
He said the song came about in a strange way.
"We were singing in Charleston, South Carolina, in a hall. And after our finale, we were still singing -- and Smokey started singing just the ooooos and 'baby, baby,' " Moore said. "We fell in with him with harmony, and the crowd went crazy. We went back to the room and said we got to write a song to go with that."
He said the words and music just came together, and they knew they had written their signature song.
Moore also co-wrote "Tracks of My Tears" and "Going to a Go-Go" among other songs for the Miracles, and "Since I Lost My Baby" and "It's Growing" for their Motown buddies the Temptations. That's his name under the credits for "Ain't That Peculiar " and "I'll Be Doggone" for another Motown marvel, Marvin Gaye.
Moore said he and Robinson started out in 1954 with a band called the Five Chimes, singing cover versions of songs by the Spaniels and the Moonglows.
"It was an amazing time," he said. "We were just kids, and there was music everywhere in Detroit. In 1957, we were calling ourselves the Matadors, and we auditioned for some industry people. They didn't like us, said we were too much like the Platters, but there was another guy in the room who caught up to us and said he liked us a lot. His name was Berry Gordy."
With Gordy as manager, the Miracles released a single in 1958 called "Got a Job," an "answer song" to the Silhouettes' "Get a Job."
Moore said even though it didn't make the group any money, the song was enough of a hit to jump-start its career. After a few more minor successes, the Miracles started a long series of hits in 1960 with the classic "Shop Around."
After that, hit followed hit. "You Really Got a Hold on Me," "What's So Good About Goodbye?" and "I'll Try Something New" came out in 1962, followed by "Mickey's Monkey" in 1963.
In 1964, the Miracles had everyone doing "The Jerk," and in 1965 they were "Going to a Go-Go." In 1965, the group capped its reputation with the two songs that would forever be its greatest hits, "Ooo Baby Baby" and the mournful "Tracks of My Tears."
The Miracles' lives were a whirlwind of music, money and success. But in 1972, Robinson stepped down to spend more time with his wife, a woman he married after divorcing band member Claudette Rogers Robinson. He was also busy as vice president of Motown Records.
"We had 12 farewell engagements playing to sold-out houses. It was amazing," said Moore. "Billy Griffin then replaced Smokey, and under him we had our biggest-selling song ever, 'Love Machine' in 1976. That sold 4.5 million copies."
Moore left the band in 1986.
"I got tired of all the traveling," he said. "My wife said I was getting older and that I should take it easy. I didn't need the money. I had my own publishing company. I thought it was time."
The band stayed together as founding member Bobby Rogers brought in new people.
"They were singing until last year, when Bobby retired with health problems," Moore said.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 04.3.12 @ 19:01pm


"The Miracles' lives were a whirlwind of music, money and success. But in 1972, Robinson stepped down to spend more time with his wife, a woman he married after divorcing band member Claudette Rogers Robinson. He was also busy as vice president of Motown Records."

WHAT ??

Somebody should really proof read these articles and get their FACTS straight. Smokey didn't leave The Miracles to spend more time with a woman other than Claudette. Claudette WAS his wife. For 27 years, I might add.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.4.12 @ 01:18am


THE RESPONSE FROM SAMPSON ON DIGITAL DREAM DOOR ABOUT MARVIN TARPLIN BEING LISTED BY HIM AS A SIDEMEN CANDIDATE FOR THE ROCK HALL

Tarplin wasn't technically a Miracle, which was a singing group, even though he performed with them and co-wrote many of their best songs. Technically therefore he should be in as a sideman, but like you I've heard he's getting in with them anyway. However, this is the HOF we're talking about and their history of doing things right is abysmal (they're not even letting those groups anywhere near the building for the ceremonies, god forbid they draw attention away from Steve Van Zandt inducting the Faces). When I see proof Tarplin's actually gotten inducted I'll take him off the sideman candidates section. It's not a big deal that he'll be listed there another three weeks.

THEN I SENT HIM THE LINK TO THE MIRACLES ROCK HALL PAGE WHICH TELLS YOU WHO IS BEING INDUCTED

It has already been confirmed by the Rock Hall which members of The Miracles are being inducted. Here's the page:

Inducted members: Warren “Pete” Moore, Claudette Rogers Robinson, Bobby Rogers, Marvin Tarplin, Ronald White

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.6.12 @ 13:51pm


MORE FROM SAMPSON ON DIGITAL DREAM DOOR

From The Miracles boxed set - "making Marv an honorary Miracle and his most important musical collaborator". Smokey always affectionally referred to him that way as well, but never undervalued his contributions, publicly or privately.

I obviously believed Tarplin should've been inducted in one form or another LONG ago. I'm glad he's getting in, I just wish they'd let the damn group sing and play together, along with the Comets, Crickets, et. all. This another example of the Hall fckng things up because of their own lack of criteria, breaking what criteria they do have (in the case of Smokey, inducting him alone when he was not yet eligible as a solo artist, for which he ALSO should be in, becoming another two time inductee, which now apparently he won't be) and then rectifying it at last, but doing so in a way that snubs the surviving members of the group by denying them the right to be appaluded publicly for their induction and their careers. The Hall Of Fame board is littered with the most disrespectful people in all of music. It would mean far more for someone like an aging Comet to be on stage getting a standing ovation than it will mean for Rod Stewart or Axl Rose (though both are narcisisstic enough to challenge that assertion). The point being, if you get inducted you deserve a moment in the spotlight, even if, or ESPECIALLY if, that induction came too late because of the Hall's own mistakes.

ARGHHH. Enough, I don't want to think about them more than I absolutely need to.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.6.12 @ 16:42pm


http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/artists/C4105

SONGWRITERS FRIENDS

THE MIRACLES

Of all the R&B vocal groups formed in Detroit, Michigan, USA, in the mid-50s, the Miracles proved to be the most successful. They were founded at the city's Northern High School in 1955 by Smokey Robinson (b. William Robinson, 19 February 1940, Detroit, Michigan, USA), Emerson Rogers, Bobby Rogers (b. 19 February 1940, Detroit, Michigan, USA), Ronnie White (b. 5 April 1939, Detroit, Michigan, USA, d. 26 August 1995) and Warren 'Pete' Moore (b. 19 November 1939, Detroit, Michigan, USA). Emerson Rogers left the following year, and was replaced by his sister Claudette, who married Smokey Robinson in 1959. Known initially as the Matadors, the group became the Miracles in 1958, when they made their initial recordings with producer Berry Gordy. He leased their debut, 'Got A Job' (an answer record to the Silhouettes' major hit 'Get A Job'), to End Records, produced a duet by Ron (White) And Bill (Robinson) for Argo, and licensed the classic doo-wop novelty 'Bad Girl' to Chess Records in 1959.

The following year, Gordy signed the Miracles directly to his fledgling Motown Records label. Recognizing the youthful composing talents of Smokey Robinson, he allowed the group virtual free rein in the studio, and was repaid when they issued 'Way Over There', a substantial local hit, and then 'Shop Around', which broke both the Miracles and Motown to a national audience. The song demonstrated the increasing sophistication of Robinson's writing, which provided an unbroken series of hits for the group over the next few years. Their raw, doo-wop sound was further refined on the Top 10 hit 'You Really Got A Hold On Me' in 1962, a soulful ballad that became a worldwide standard after the Beatles covered it in 1963. Robinson was now in demand by other Motown artists: Gordy used him as a one-man hit factory, to mastermind releases by the Temptations and Mary Wells, and the Miracles' own career suffered slightly as a result.

They continued to enjoy success in a variety of different styles, mixing dancefloor hits such as 'Mickey's Monkey' and 'Going To A Go-Go' with some of Robinson's most durable ballads, such as 'Ooh Baby Baby' and 'The Tracks Of My Tears'. Although Robinson sang lead on almost all the group's recordings, the rest of the group provided a unique harmony blend behind him, while guitarist Marv Tarplin - who co-wrote several of their hits - was incorporated as an unofficial Miracle from the mid-60s onwards. Claudette Robinson stopped touring with the group after 1965, although she was still featured on many of their subsequent releases.

Exhausted by several years of constant work, Robinson scaled down his writing commitments for the group in the mid-60s, when they briefly worked with Holland/Dozier/Holland and other Motown producers. Robinson wrote their most ambitious and enduring songs, however, including 'The Tears Of A Clown' in 1966 (a belated hit in the UK and USA in 1970), 'The Love I Saw In You Was Just A Mirage', and 'I Second That Emotion' in 1967. These tracks epitomized the strengths of Robinson's compositions, with witty, metaphor-filled lyrics tied to aching melody lines and catchy guitar figures, the latter often provided by Tarplin.

Like many of the veteran Motown acts, the Miracles went into a sales slump after 1967 - the year when Robinson was given individual credit on the group's records. Their slide was less noticeable in Britain, where Motown gained a Top 10 hit in 1969 with a reissue of 'The Tracks Of My Tears', which most listeners imagined was a contemporary record. The success of 'The Tears Of A Clown' prompted a revival in fortune after 1970. 'I'm The One You Need' became another reissue hit in Britain the following year, while 'I Don't Blame You At All', one of their strongest releases to date, achieved chart success on both sides of the Atlantic.

In 1971, Robinson announced his intention of leaving the Miracles to concentrate on his position as vice-president of Motown Records. His decision belied the title of his final hit with the group, 'We've Come Too Far To End It Now' in 1972, and left the Miracles in the unenviable position of having to replace one of the most distinctive voices in popular music. Their choice was William 'Bill' Griffin (b. 15 August 1950, Detroit, Michigan, USA), who was introduced by Robinson to the group's audiences during a 1972 US tour. The new line-up took time to settle, while Smokey Robinson launched a solo career to great acclaim in 1973. The group responded with Renaissance, which saw them working with Motown luminaries such as Marvin Gaye and Willie Hutch. The following year, they re-established the Miracles as a hit-making force with 'Do It Baby' and 'Don'tcha Love It', dance-orientated singles that appealed strongly to the group's black audience. In 1975, 'Love Machine' became the Miracles' first US chart-topper, while the concept album City Of Angels was acclaimed as one of Motown's most progressive releases.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.8.12 @ 07:26am


Claudette called herself the First Lady of Motown at the ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.15.12 @ 00:39am


Claudette Calls herself the First Lady of Motown at the 2012 Rock Hall induction ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.15.12 @ 07:57am


So the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducts Smokey Robinson without The Miracles, and they induct The Miracles without Smokey Robinson and Billy Griffin as members of The Miracles. Nice job Rock Hall, nice job!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.19.12 @ 08:14am


So the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inducts Smokey Robinson in 1987 without The Miracles, and they induct The Miracles in 2012 without Smokey Robinson and Billy Griffin as members of The Miracles. Nice job Rock Hall, nice job!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.19.12 @ 10:25am


Roy, if you think they accidentally forgot to induct Smokey Robinson this year with The Miracles, you have no idea how The Miracles got into the Hall of Fame in the first place.

Posted by The_Claw on Thursday, 04.19.12 @ 12:22pm


I didn't say that I think they forgot. I'm making fun of them!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 06:52am


Smokey Robinson's trophy doesn't say The Miracles on it! Shame! At least the Hollywood Walk of Fame got it right in 2009. All the members plaques say The Miracles on them, even Smokey Robinson's plaque! Watch it on youtube.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 06:58am


Smokey Robinson is a two-time Hollywood Walk of Fame inductee! 1983 and 2009.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 10:23am


"Smokey Robinson's trophy doesn't say The Miracles on it! Shame! At least the Hollywood Walk of Fame got it right in 2009. All the members plaques say The Miracles on them, even Smokey Robinson's plaque! Watch it on YouTube."

This stupid practice of trying to separate Smokey from the rest of the Miracles,when EVERYONE KNOWS he was a member of the group from the start, was what caused this fiasco in the FIRST PLACE!!

Smokey said,at the induction, about The Miracles and the other groups, and the alledged "BACKING BAND" label:
"These people don't stand BEHIND you...they stand WITH you. These aren't "BACKING GROUPS". These ARE the Groups !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.22.12 @ 13:33pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=mTk2x3taq2w

BERRY GORDY pays tribute to his first group, THE MIRACLES, at The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.22.12 @ 19:25pm


"Claudette called herself the First Lady of Motown at the ceremony."

Fans of Mary Wells and Diana Ross have given that title to their favorite singers as well. But Claudette is the ONLY one that BERRY GORDY HIMSELF gave that title to. From Wikipedia:

Motown founder Berry Gordy gave Claudette the official title of the "First Lady of Motown", as noted in his autobiography, because, as a member of the Miracles, (Motown's first group and first recording act), she was the first female artist ever signed to a Motown-affiliated record label (Tamla).

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 04.23.12 @ 01:12am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGoxlirCcdU&feature=related

KLEAN Radio interview with Claudette Robinson of the Miracles, and her (and Smokey's son, Berry Robinson)

(interview starts at 7:40)

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.25.12 @ 20:53pm


"Roy, if you think they accidentally forgot to induct Smokey Robinson this year with The Miracles, you have no idea how The Miracles got into the Hall of Fame in the first place".

Posted by The Claw.

I think that, what Roy is trying to say,Claw, is that Smokey should have been a double-inductee, and that because they inducted him solo with the first induction, he should have also been inducted as a member of The Miracles, as Curtis Mayfield was inducted twice- once with The Impressions, and once solo.

The problem is that the RRHOF inducted Curtis CORRECTLY. The Impressions qualified as a GROUP FIRST..and so Curtis was inducted with the other Impressions according to the RRHOF'S 25 year rule.

Then, once Curtis qualified solo, he got in again as a solo artist.

But, because ALL of THE MIRACLES should have gone in back in 1987,instead of Smokey alone, due to the RRHOF's screw-up, it doesn't make sense to induct him again, as a member of The Miracles, because, THEY ALREADY INDUCTED HIM SOLO 26 YEARS AGO. He has already enjoyed status as a solo inductee for more than a quarter of a century. Yes...he should have gone in as a Miracle first, just as James Brown should have gone in with The Famous Flames back in 1986...then solo later.but it didn't work out that way, and so both Smokey and James both lose out on the honor of being double-inductees...because THE RRHOF SCREWED UP !!

Besides, if Smokey got inducted again with The Miracles this year, then people would complain, and call "FOUL", that Smokey alone got a 2nd induction,while the leads of the other 5 classic groups didn't. All of them , in the RRHOF's view, may not deserve a 2nd induction...so, NOBODY GETS ONE.... whether they deserve it or not. And so, when all is said and done...Smokey, although he deserves it, will not recieve a 2nd induction.

BUT, HE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN INDUCTED WITH The MIRACLES.



Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.29.12 @ 15:27pm


And, while we're at it, All Music Guide's assertion that MARV TARPLIN was an "unofficial Miracle" simply doesn't hold water. If Marv's status as a Miracle is "UNOFFICIAL", then WHY does his name appear on The Miracles' albums ...since the very first one (Hi...We're The Miracles in 1961) as a member of the group, and the MOST RECENT Miracles album, 2009's "Depend On Me" collection have his name on the inside liner notes and his FACE on the COVER with them ?

And again, if he was NOT a "real" member of the Miracles....THEN WHY DID HE JUST GET INDUCTED WITH THEM ?

Allmusic needs to do more research.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.29.12 @ 15:41pm


While I don't usually agree with DDD, I do agree that , since The Miracles' industry accomplishments meet and exceed about 75-80% of already-inducted RRHOF artists, they deserved to have had individual recognition...to stand on stage alone and get their applause and props like so many lesser groups do...especially since the RRHOF waited SO LONG to finally recognize them.

NO WAY should ANY of the "current" inductees have gotten those kind of props ...while the Miracles didn't !! NO WAY !!!

The RRHOF , in 26 years, NEVER ONCE let THE MIRACLES' names appear on a ballot. NOT ONCE !! If they had, they would have gotten in on the FIRST TRY !!! Everyone KNOWS just how important THE MIRACLES were to Rock and Roll History !!!

So, once again, The RRHOF gives Motown's FIRST GROUP the royal shaft !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.29.12 @ 16:00pm


It makes you wonder ...just WHO on the Nom Com was responsible for keeping The Miracles' name off the ballot for the last 26 years ?

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 04.29.12 @ 19:50pm


Bill G attended the 2012 Rock Hall induction ceremony. Bill G. what was the order of inductions at the ceremony

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.30.12 @ 19:49pm


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1515/The-Miracles?page=39

EMAIL I SENT TO MEMBERS OF THE ROCK HALL

FIND THIS MIRACLES PICTURE WITHOUT WORDS ON IT AND USE IT AS THE PICTURE FOR THE MIRACLES ROCK HALL PAGE

ALL 6 ORIGINAL MEMBERS PICTURED - SEE ATTACHMENT

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.30.12 @ 19:54pm


****MOTOWN GROUPS with songs in the GRAMMY HALL OF FAME:****

THE MIRACLES: FOUR.

1.Shop Around
2.The Tears Of A Clown
3.The Tracks Of My Tears
4.You've Really Got A Hold On Me

THE SUPREMES: THREE.

1.Stop In The Name Of Love
2.Where Did Our Love Go
3.You Keep Me Hanging On

THE TEMPTATIONS: TWO.

1.My Girl
2.Papa Was A Rolling Stone

THE FOUR TOPS: ONE.

1.Reach Out I'll Be There

MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS: ONE

1.Dancing In The Street

GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS: ONE

1.Midnight Train To Georgia*

THE JACKSON FIVE:ONE

1. I Want You Back

*Recorded after the group left the Motown label.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.1.12 @ 12:09pm


Greetings again , Roy.

Y'know, I can't even remember. You know us old guys. But, here's how I THINK IT WAS:

I remember that Green Day came on first, to induct RHCP.
I think that Freddy King was 2nd.His daughter accepted for him.
Laura Nyro, I believe , was 3rd.Her son accepted. (thank goodness).
By then, I was getting antsy...All I cared about was seeing THE MIRACLES, THE FAMOUS FLAMES,and THE MIDNIGHTERS get in .I can't remember if they got in before, or after, the Faces/Small Faces.
I know that Guns and Roses were last, and The Beastie Boys preceded them.My nephew came, and he was screaming for THEM. (whatever).

That's how I THINK the order went.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.1.12 @ 12:20pm


Why couldn't Claudette and Pete appear to say their OWN words at the RRHOF press conference ? Why does it always have to be Smokey and Berry ?

Don't they get ENOUGH attention?

And , after all of these years why couldn't the surviving Miracles be allowed to take the stage to get INDIVIDUAL recognition, like all of the other Motown groups did ? After all , they were the single most important group on the Motown label....and A LOT more important that many of the "current" inductees...and most of those inductees in past years as well !!

So, once again, Miracles fans get the royal shaft: After waiting all of these years to FINALLY see them get inducted, they had to share the stage with 5 other groups, ALL of whom,were MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than the current inductees, and ALL OF WHOM deserved INDIVIDUAL RECOGNITION !!

The MIRACLES deserved their "moment"...ALONE !!!

After all these years, the RRHOF STILL DOESN'T "GET IT" !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 05.2.12 @ 11:50am


Yeah....they finally "got in"...but the way they inducted them was WRONG.Totally disrespectful of their HISTORY,LEGACY, and ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

PERCY SLEDGE and THE RONETTES were treated better...The MIRACLES' accomplishments FAR EXCEDED THEIRS !!

When Smokey tryed to get them out on stage to get their "moment", the RRHOF officials WOULDN'T LET THEM COME OUT...AND A REP TOLD SMOKEY SO ONSTAGE !!!

But Laura Nyro and Freddy King get individual recognition !! YOU FIGURE IT OUT !!!

Just another screw-up , courtesy of your good friends over at the good ole RRHOF !!

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 05.2.12 @ 12:00pm


Roy-do me a favor: could you please forward my preceding comments here in my name to the RRHOF ? I'd like them to know just how I feel about the way the Miracles were inducted. What a slap in the face to Miracles fans everywhere !! Or if you can't ,give me their E-Mail address, and I'll send it MYSELF ! Thanks.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.3.12 @ 04:00am


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1515/The-Miracles?page=45

I'll post the email addresses on The Miracles thread on Charles Crossley's site.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.3.12 @ 06:30am


Thanks, Roy!!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.3.12 @ 12:14pm


The Miracles were with Berry Gordy since BEFORE the formation of Motown Records...in fact, Berry,and The Miracles actually FOUNDED Motown together.It is an well-documented historic fact that it was Smokey who convinced Berry to form his own record label IN THE FIRST PLACE....The Miracles were Motown's first group, and without their success,Motown, as we know it today, would have NEVER EXISTED.(Berry said this himself at The Miracles' Hollywood Walk of Fame induction 3 years ago).

Without The Miracles,there would have been NO MOTOWN. That means: NO SUPREMES, NO TEMPTATIONS, NO FOUR TOPS,NO MARY WELLS, NO JR WALKER & THE ALL-STARS, NO MARVIN GAYE OR STEVIE WONDER, NO JACKSON 5 OR MICHAEL, NO VANDELLAS OR MARVELETTES OR COMMODORES or LIONEL RITCHIE (I think you get the picture).

The appearance and subsequent success of THE MIRACLES marked a fundamental change in the direction of popular music.They were just THAT IMPORTANT.They were the spark that caused the worldwide explosion called MOTOWN. And, just IMAGINE how different the world of music (and in general) would be today if Motown had never existed.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 05.7.12 @ 14:12pm


Why do Smokey and Berry have to hog the limelight all of the time? Gosh it has been too long for the Miracles and Billy Griffin should be there as well Love Machine was the biggest hit they had without Smokey! Sometimes the RRHOF makes bad selections....RIP Adam of the Beastie Boys (although I dont think they deserve to be in the RRHOF).

Posted by Stephanie on Wednesday, 05.9.12 @ 14:13pm


http://www.cleveland.com/rockhall/index.ssf/2012/04/the_miracles_in_the_60s_we_lov.htm

"Why do Smokey and Berry have to hog the limelight all of the time?"

I too, was hoping that Pete and Claudette would share in the press conference. Not Smokey and Berry. They are ALREADY RRHOF Inductees for their individual work. This evening was about the rest of THE MIRACLES...not them. And it was a long time coming.

"Gosh it has been too long for the Miracles and Billy Griffin should be there as well Love Machine was the biggest hit they had without Smokey!"

Although The Smokey camp wouldn't want you to know this, "Love Machine" was NOT the biggest hit The Miracles had WITHOUT Smokey. It was the BIGGEST HIT THAT THE MIRACLES HAD...EVER.

Miracles bass singer,writer,and producer PETE MOORE, in talking to The Cleveland Plain Dealer, stated that LOVE MACHINE,which he co-wrote with Billy Griffin , sold 4.5 MILLION COPIES. The biggest Smokey-led hit, "The Tears of A Clown" , sold 3 Million.

Both songs were # 1 Billboard Pop Hits.

As for Billy Griffin, Wikipedia reports:

"In 1987, Smokey Robinson was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist. However, in a decision that has since sparked much scrutiny, debate, and controversy, Griffin, and the other members of The Miracles, Bobby Rogers, Ronnie White, Pete Moore, Marv Tarplin, and Claudette Robinson, were not. The Miracles met the qualifications, as did Robinson, but they have not to date been inducted. Controversy of the nomination process and rules for induction remains. The conflict was resolved when the Miracles were announced to be inducted in 2012. However, due to Griffin's strained relationship with Smokey Robinson, Berry Gordy and legal wars with Motown Records (due to non-payment of royalties) , as a member of the Miracles was not included in the induction."

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 05.9.12 @ 22:08pm


Smokey sucks! Cannot believe he stole their thunder. Shame, shame, shame ....

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 09:45am


how dare smokey steal the thunder from the band that would of gotten nowhere without him.

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 14:28pm


"how dare smokey steal the thunder from the band that would of gotten nowhere without him."

I think you've kinda got things switched around. It was the Miracles that made Smokey...not the reverse.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 14:43pm


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1721/THE-GREAT-VOCAL-GROUP-VS-BAND-DEBATE-WHICH-IS-WHICH

And , let's PLEASE STOP using the term "BAND" to describe VOCAL GROUPS. THE BEATLES, STONES,and GUNS AND ROSES are "BANDS". THE MIRACLES are a VOCAL GROUP. BANDS are people who play instruments. We really need to STOP using the incorrect term "BAND" AS A BLANKET TERM to describe EVERY GROUP in the recording industry. It is MISLEADING, and MAKES NO SENSE. The MIRACLES, The TEMPTATIONS,The MIDNIGHTERS, The FAMOUS FLAMES, and The FOUR TOPS are NOT "BANDS"...They are "SINGING GROUPS" or "VOCAL GROUPS" .

I created an article on this controversial issue recently for Charles Crossley's TOP OF THE CHARTS FORUM. You can read it by clicking on the above link.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 15:25pm


how far would the miracles of gotten without smokey though? they certainly wouldn't be "FATHERS OF MOTOWN"

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 16:02pm


http://www.billboard.com/news/the-miracles-grateful-of-effort-to-get-them-1006764352.story#/news/the-miracles-grateful-of-effort-to-get-them-1006764352.story

The Miracles Grateful of Effort to Get Them Into Rock Hall of Fame- Billboard Magazine article by Gary Graff dated 4/13/12

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 16:04pm


"how far would the miracles of gotten without smokey though? they certainly wouldn't be "FATHERS OF MOTOWN"

Anyone who says that obviously doesn't know the real history of this group. It was not simply "all about Smokey", and never was. The Miracles, throughout their history, have ALWAYS been a GROUP effort. Sure, Smokey was the front man and the star, but,the contributions of ALL of the members was what made The Miracles great. All of them were songwriters and producers...not just Smokey. Pete Moore did the vocal arrangmrnts for all of the group's songs. Bobby Rogers, the group's best dancer, came up with the choreography, augmented on later by the legendary Cholly Atkins.Ronnie White handled all of the group's business. Marv Tarplin whipped the group's back-up band into shape .
Every member of The Miracles (except Claudette) is a BMI Songwriters Award winner.Not Just Smokey, and Pete , Smokey, and Marv are also ASCAP Songwriters Award winners as well.

It was THE MEDIA that tried to separate Smokey from the rest of the Miracles in the public's mind...and they STILL do it today !! I bet it was the RRHOF'S idea to interview Smokey alone !!!
Thankfully, the GROUP'S induction will finally change things.(and , they're not all "Fathers of Motown". Don't forget Claudette. She is the "First Lady" of Motown...the ONLY one that Berry Gordy HIMSELF gave that title to.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 16:41pm


from Billboard:

Smokey Robinson had previously told Billboard.com that he's been lobbying for the Miracles since his own induction -- "making calls and signing petitions and everything, because they really deserve it." Some feel Robinson should also be inducted with the group this weekend, but he says that, "I don't really even care about that. I'm already in there. I don't understand why it was, like, a task to get the Miracles in there. We were one of the hottest and most prolific groups in the world at that time, so I don't understand the hesitancy."

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 16:46pm


Claudette Robinson acknowledges that while "Smokey always loomed large over the Miracles," the other members "have never been envious, never tried to take away any of his acclaim and fame. I think they've always been very happy for him." But she and Moore, who's hosting a pre-induction party on Friday night in Cleveland, are happy that the induction of Miracles -- including the ailing Bobby Rogers and, posthumously, Ronnie White and guitarist Marv Tarplin -- will tell what they feels is the rest of the story.

"When the Miracles began, it was five people who were out there," Robinson says, "not one working any harder than the other. One may have had more lyrics that the were singing, but then somebody else had more dance steps. There was just such a cohesiveness of five people coming together and doing something they loved -- and never dreaming it would go as far as it did. I wish that this (induction) had come at an earlier time so everyone was alive and able to participate, but it will still be sweet, and I'll carry the torch for whoever can't get there."

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 17:32pm


So the Rock Hall inducted Smokey Robinson the wrong way and they inducted The Miracles the wrong way. I guess you can say they are even now.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.10.12 @ 22:28pm



http://www.amazon.com/Smokey-Robinson-Definitive-Performances-1963-1987/dp/B000JMK6IK/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1336722595&sr=1-1

***The Miracles' DVD***

In addition to the musical performances,this DVD also features the first - ever in depth interview with original Miracles members Smokey Robinson, Bobby Rogers, and Pete Moore. Strangely, original members Marv Tarplin & Claudette Robinson are not present,but are mentioned throughout the disc. (Original member Ronnie White is now deceased.) (NOTE: ditto Marv Tarplin as of 9/30/11). The disc also features 2 hit songs by the group featuring Smokey's replacement, Billy Griffin, and three of Smokey's Post- Miracles solo hits. During the interview, the three Miracles discuss the history of the group, the formation of Motown, and detailed stories behind the creation of some of their greatest hits. According to David Peck, producer of the disk for Reelin' In The Years, The Miracles' "Definitive DVD" has been awarded Certified Gold status by the RIAA

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 05.11.12 @ 04:10am


Rock Hall of Fame Induction Comes Late for The Miracles

from The Detroit Free Press- April 14, 2012

by
By Brian McCollum

Detroit Free Press Pop Music Writer


For bands like Guns N' Roses and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, tonight's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions will bring long-expected glory.

For the Miracles, tonight will be a moment of overdue justice.

The venerable Motown group is one of more than a dozen acts to be inducted at the starry ceremony, a slate that includes GNR, the Chili Peppers, the Beastie Boys and Donovan.

To fans of Motown's first hit group, the honor is welcome -- if 25 years late. Many insist the Miracles should have been (inducted) with group leader Smokey Robinson in 1987, when he was among the hall's second-year inductees.

Founding Miracle Claudette Robinson, who publicly pressed the group's case for years, is taking the gracious route as she looks ahead to tonight's festivities.


"I'm just thankful and thrilled," says the former Detroit resident and ex-wife of Smokey Robinson. "I didn't think it would ever happen, in my lifetime at least. It's almost like restarting your career."


The rock hall certainly hasn't been short of controversy since it launched in 1986. Indeed, this week's media storyline has been dominated by Axl Rose's refusal to attend tonight. The singer, citing internal GNR drama, even asked not to be inducted in absentia.


But the Miracles' snubbing was one of the oldest running beefs. Year after year, Internet petitions and letter campaigns pushed for recognition of a group whose hits started with 1960's "Shop Around" -- Motown's first million-seller.

"Everybody was really working for us, and the message got through," says Claudette Robinson.


Paul Barker, a friend of the group who will be on hand tonight, says it's a lesson about the rock hall's power to shape perceptions.

"Being the institution they are, they run the risk of REWRITING HISTORY (my caps- Bill) , and that can be scary. The hall maybe unintentionally rewrote history when Smokey was inducted solo," he says. "I don't think it was intentional, but it was inaccurate. To refer to the Miracles as just a "BACKING GROUP" is a flat-out CLEAR INJUSTICE."

Indeed, Barker has lingering concerns about tonight's ceremony -- because Smokey was tapped to induct the group.

"That's the one that bothers me as a fan," he says. "I think it's odd that they're not honoring the Miracles as a group with Smokey. In their attempt to make things right, I hope they're not actually digging a bigger hole."

For his part, Smokey Robinson says he'd always wanted the Miracles alongside him in '87, and that he has long lobbied behind the scenes for the group's induction. Today he says he's "very proud" the Miracles are getting their due.

"I feel that as a group, they paid their dues when I was with them and after I was gone (from 1972 on)," he says. "They're one of the most DYNAMIC groups EVER to be, and they deserve to be in the hall of fame."

The two Robinsons will be joined tonight by fellow original Pete Moore, though the group's other surviving original member -- Southfield's Bobby Rogers -- is uncertain because of health issues. Founding member Ron White and guitarist Marv Tarplin died.

"That's why this would have been great sooner," says Claudette Robinson. "We could have had everyone here. We'll be standing in their stead."

The Miracles won't be the only Detroit presence tonight. Also set for induction is the classic R&B group the Midnighters; in a case not unlike the Miracles, the group's most visible member -- Hank Ballard -- was inducted solo in 1990.

The Red Hot Chili Peppers will bring some Michigan roots to the gala, too: Drummer Chad Smith, a Lahser High grad, and vocalist Anthony Kiedis, a Grand Rapids native, will be on hand.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 05.12.12 @ 18:59pm


http://anndandridgepublicrelations.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-miraces-are-inducted-into-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-2012

"THE MIRACLES" are Inducted into................ THE ROCK and ROLL HALL of FAME! 2012

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 05.12.12 @ 19:01pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles

In 2012, 26 years after not being inducted, a special sub-committee of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame finally decided to address the issue of deserving pioneering groups that were not inducted in the Hall's early years, when their front men were inducted. The result of this led to the Miracles being one of six groups to be inducted.[50][51] Original members Claudette Rogers-Robinson, Bobby Rogers, Ronald White, Marv Tarplin and Pete Moore were retroactively and automatically inducted to the Hall of Fame without a need for nomination and voting, under the premise that the entire group should have been inducted with Smokey Robinson back in 1987.

In an interview for The Cleveland Plain Dealer on April 3, 2012, Miracle Pete Moore commented on The Miracles' 1987 Rock Hall of Fame snub:
"It was a slap in the face, very disappointing," said Moore, who co-wrote many of the Miracles hits. "We are the premiere group of Motown. We were there before there was a Motown. We set the pace for all the other artists to come after us. We were a little older, and the other artists looked up to us. How could we not be in there?" Moore went on to say:
"When Terry Stewart [Rock Hall president and CEO] called and told me we were to be inducted, he was apologetic," Moore said. "He said it should have been done years ago, everybody knew it. He said they received many, many calls over the years from angry (Miracles) fans."

The Digital Dream Door website, in commenting on the Miracles' induction, had this to say:
"Of all the oversights in 27 years of the Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame, none was more outrageous than the exclusion of the Miracles when Smokey Robinson alone got in during Year Two of the Hall's existence. Not even eligible as a solo performer yet by the Hall's own rules, Smokey was honored while the group he fronted, whose name his did not even appear separately from until 1967, were left out altogether".

"The Miracles, it should go without saying, were the heartbeat of Motown in the 1960s, one of the best vocal groups ever formed and owners of some of the greatest records rock has ever produced. With their induction the Hall has remedied its most shameful chapter and the biggest miracle is it took this long to do it"

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 05.14.12 @ 11:53am


As of 2012, there has yet to exist a comprehensive-all-encompassing book on THE MIRACLES as a GROUP .(not just Smokey Robinson...there is enough info on him out there already). With the group's recent induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...this would be a perfect opportunity. How about it, biographers ??

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 06.4.12 @ 02:33am


Boy, the Rock Hall's nominating committee back in 1985-1987 must have had a real man-crush on Smokey Robinson. Imagine if The Miracles name had never been changed to Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, but the Rock Hall still inducted Smokey Robinson alone in 1987. That would have been so weird! Man-crush indeed!

The people responsible for not nominating and inducting The Miracles as The Miracles in 1987-you would think these people would know what to do:

The 1986 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee:

Ahmet Ertegun
John Hammond
Robert Hilburn
Bob Krasnow
Kurt Loder
Norm N. Nite
Nile Rodgers
Seymour Stein
Jann Wenner
Jerry Wexler

None of these people spoke up and said-hey, wait a minute! It's The Miracles, not Smokey Robinson!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 07.23.12 @ 22:22pm


Kinda makes you wonder , doesn't it.

But even that is not my REAL concern, Roy. What I'm concerned with is that Smokey was NOT inducted with The Miracles even THIS year. Which means that , from now on, future generations will ALWAYS view Smokey Robinson and the rest of the Miracles as SEPARATE ENTITIES.

I went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for the Inductions this year. Not a big stretch, because Cleveland is my home town. On the wall of the Inductees where all of their names and signatures are listed, Smokey Robinson's name and signature is listed in a totally different section that the other Miracles , Warren "Pete"Moore, Claudette Rogers-Robinson, Marvin "Marv" Tarplin, Robert "Bobby" Rogers, and Ronald "Ronnie" White. SO WHAT if they were inducted separately...they were all part of the SAME GROUP. James Brown is listed separately from The Famous Flames as well.

What image does this convey to the public ?

1) The Miracles were simply "Back-Ups"

2) Smokey was never a member of the group.

3) The Rock Hall has NO INTENTION of correcting their screw-up, and

4) They're making THE GROUP PAY FOR IT.

5) Smokey was ALWAYS and ONLY a "Solo'' artist.

In an organization which has charged itself with preserving the HISTORY ,ESSENCE, AND IMPORTANCE of Rock and Roll and those who made it, It is essential that such organization does so ACCURATELY.

What they're doing HERE is NOT ACCURATE.

And, unless they changed the picture of the group since I was there in April, MARV TARPLIN was NOT in the group picture I saw hanging on the wall at the Miracles' exhibit .

Again, more inaccuracy. When will these people ever LEARN ??

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 07.24.12 @ 01:41am


The Miracles' snubbing was one of the oldest running beefs (against the R&R HoF). Year after year, Internet petitions and letter campaigns pushed for recognition of a group whose hits started with 1960's "Shop Around" -- Motown's first million-seller.

"Everybody was really working for us, and the message got through," says Claudette Robinson.


Paul Barker, a friend of the group who will be on hand tonight, says it's a lesson about the rock hall's power to shape perceptions.

"Being the institution they are, they run the risk of REWRITING HISTORY (my caps- Bill) , and that can be scary. The hall maybe unintentionally rewrote history when Smokey was inducted solo," he says. "I don't think it was intentional, but it was inaccurate. To refer to the Miracles as just a "BACKING GROUP" is a flat-out CLEAR INJUSTICE."

Indeed, Barker has lingering concerns about tonight's ceremony -- because Smokey was tapped to induct the group.

"That's the one that bothers me as a fan," he says. "I think it's odd that they're not honoring the Miracles as a group with Smokey. In their attempt to make things right, I hope they're not actually digging a bigger hole."

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.25.12 @ 00:41am


What kind of world is it , when relatively obscure artists like Freddie King, the Faces, and Laura Nyro are given more props and MUCH more extensive and detailed bios at the Rock Hall Induction Ceremony than The Miracles...a group that is so much more so indelible part of Rock and Roll History...a group that has done SO MUCH MORE in the history, the evolution, development and perpetuation of rock and roll, than ANY of this years current inductees...and has had MORE hit records than ALL of them, to boot !!!

Smokey was not allowed to take the stage with them, although he tried, and Claudette and Pete had to share the stage with 5 other groups, instead of having their individual "moment" something that Miracles fans have been clamoring for ever since their 1986 Rock Hall snub.

And , to make things worse, NOT to give Smokey a second induction, this time with his OWN GROUP,so that future generations will ALWAYS view SMOKEY ROBINSON, and the rest of THE MIRACLES, as SEPARATE ENTITIES...To finally correct The Rock Hall's OWN 1986 SCREW-UP....AND , AS USUAL, THEY BLEW IT !!

Yeah, the Miracles finally got in , but the way that The RRHOF handled it REALLY SUCKED !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 09:41am


You do realize that Guns N Roses have sold far more than The Miracles ever will? so don't use the hits argument.

and again ,they can't induct the miracles alone because that means they would have wasted a spot on Smokeys unimportant solo career.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 09:49am


But The Miracles have had far more chart hits. Check it.

And, they DID induct the Miracles alone. Smokey was left out of the group's induction.

And I dare you to tell me that Smoey didn't deserve to go in twice: not for his solo career as an artist, but for his songwriting,producing and discovering other acts ,his role as Vice President of the Motown Record Corporation, and numerous other accomplishments in hia career.

His solo induction in 1987 was basically for THAT. but, like Curtis Mayfield, who was inducted solo and with The Impressions, Smokey should have gone in AGAIN as a member of The Miracles.
Anyone who says differently doesn't know the history of this group.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 10:09am


If record sales and Pop success alone were the only deciding factors , than RUSH and CHICAGO should have gotten in a LONG TIME AGO...and before Guns and Roses , I might add.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 10:12am


Nah, GnR sold more than Chicago and Rush combined.

Miracles had more chart hits because they released more singles.

In the case of smokey, induct him as a non performer then. A regular inclusion is for music alone.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 10:46am


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles#Cover_versions_and_influence

Again, you're missing the point .The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has always considered INFLUENCE far more important than mere record sales or Pop Chart penetration.

Do you really think that Guns and Roses have influenced more artists worldwide than The Miracles ? Do you think their songs are as covered ? Or that they have influenced a more diverse group of artists in other musical genres (not just Rock ?)

I suggest you click on the link above.


Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 13:38pm


Laura Nyro had 1 charting single and two charting albums in her career...yet she was inducted as a main performer. Her compositions were mainly hits for others , but not by her....probably would have made more sense to induct HER in the non-performer category. And put Carole King in as both.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 13:43pm


Dude I consider commercial success much less important than influence and innovation, but you used it in the miracles favour.

Comparing the influence of The Miracles, a band that started at the very beginning of the 60's to a band like GnR, who started in the mid 80's is unfair. Give them 25 more years and compare. I can tell you one thing though, I think GnR may end up winning in the long run.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 14:08pm


Hey , you're the one who started with the dissing and the comparisons. Don't get bent out of shape now that I'm addressing them.

First of all , please don't use the term "band" to describe the Miracles or other classic R&B vocal groups . The term is misleading and incorrect. They are not a "Band".Guns and Roses are a "band". The Miracles are a Vocal Group. Secondly, The Miracles actually started with their classic lineup in 1957, not in the sixties.Their origins even go back further that, as far back as 1955. Thirdly, the group called Guns and Roses today isn't even the same group that started at their origin. At least the Miracles kept the same basic lineup for almost 20 years.

As for where G & R will be 20 years from now...only time will tell.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 15:29pm


They kept a lineup because Smokey wasn't a cÜnt like Axl.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 15:51pm


James Brown did the same thing to The Famous Flames. That's why he had to DIE before they finally got their due...and their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 08.5.12 @ 16:08pm


"Comparing the influence of The Miracles, a band that started at the very beginning of the 60's to a band like GnR, who started in the mid 80's is unfair. Give them 25 more years and compare. I can tell you one thing though, I think GnR may end up winning in the long run."

You forget that , in that same 25 years,even MORE artists will add songs by The Miracles to their repertoires. I doubt very seriously that those artists will stop recording Miracles tunes to let Guns and Roses catch up.

Also, I don't see that their songs will be covered by as diverse group of artists. Rock, maybe, but Jazz ? Hip-Hop ? Country and Western? R&B ? Acapella? MOR? Reggae ?

Nah.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.6.12 @ 03:38am


Can't WAIT to hear the Johnny Mathis version of "Welcome to the Jungle" .

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.6.12 @ 03:49am


That'd be amazing.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 08.6.12 @ 08:24am


..."Chances Are." (LOL).

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.6.12 @ 11:37am


Actually, Etta James covered "Welcome to the Jungle" on her final album. You'll find a big band version of "Paradise City" on Pat Boone's hardrock cover album.

I think if you look hard enough, you'll find that alot of artists from different genres covered GNR songs. I could imagine "Sweet Child O' Mine" being covered by all sorts of artists. According to Wikipedia, both Carrie Underwood and The Black Eyed Peas frequently perform it at concerts, so that's country and hip-hop.

And don't forget there are quite a lot of lounge and jazz versions of Guns N' Roses songs, but most of those shouldn't be taken seriously. If you're interested, I recommend Richard Cheese' "Aperitif for Destruction".

Posted by The_Claw on Monday, 08.6.12 @ 18:15pm


personally,I'd like to see them get the WEIRD AL treatment:
WELCOME TO THE TUMBLE
WELCOME TO THE FUNGAL
WELCOME TO THE MUMBLE
WELCOME TO THE HUMBLE

....Are you writing these down , Al ?

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.6.12 @ 18:55pm


"Pat Boone??"

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 08.10.12 @ 14:06pm


Yes, Pat Boone. He released a record with hardrock covers in the late 90s, including Enter Sandman, Stairway to Heaven and Smoke on the Water, in bigband style.

Paul Anka did a similar thing a couple of years ago. I quite like his version of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 08.11.12 @ 04:41am


If Smokey Robinson has anything to do with it, Mary Wells and The Marvelettes will be nominated this year.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.11.12 @ 09:08am


Why no link to the Miracles on youtube at the top of this page?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.11.12 @ 09:17am


I wonder if the Rock Hall wanted to induct Smokey Robinson with The Miracles this year and Smokey said no. I also wonder if the Rock Hall has a rule that says inductees can't give induction speeches for themselves.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 08.15.12 @ 12:57pm


Giving your own induction speech is very narcissistic. It's probably not a rule, but it is common sense that you don't let the inductee induct himself.

They explained it as a correction of a previous mistake. The mistake was inducting Smokey without the rest of The Miracles. Inducting Smokey a second time wouldn't be correcting a mistake, but placing a whole new act in the Performer's category without letting the Voting Committee decide over it. That is something they do have rules about.

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 08.15.12 @ 13:14pm


"I wonder if the Rock Hall wanted to induct Smokey Robinson with The Miracles this year and Smokey said no. I also wonder if the Rock Hall has a rule that says inductees can't give induction speeches for themselves."

Posted by Roy

"They explained it as a correction of a previous mistake. The mistake was inducting Smokey without the rest of The Miracles. Inducting Smokey a second time wouldn't be correcting a mistake, but placing a whole new act in the Performer's category without letting the Voting Committee decide over it. That is something they do have rules about."

It was THE MIRACLES that should have been inducted in 1987....not Smokey Robinson alone.Had the ENTIRE GROUP been inducted back then,Smokey could have gotten inducted again...in the NON PERFORMER category as a writer/producer/record executive. (his solo recording career may or may not warrant induction).(ditto for The Famous Flames). Of the six "Special Committee" group inductions, probably only James Brown and Smokey would probably qualify for a second induction.

But, because the R&R HOF was simply correcting a previous error on THEIR part,A second induction for both Brown and Robinson didn't, and probably won't, happen.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 08.24.12 @ 13:53pm


THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

The Miracles

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Marvin "Marv" Tarplin
06. Claudette Rogers
07. Billy Griffin

THE 2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

The Miracles

01. Warren "Pete" Moore
02. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
03. Ronald "Ronnie" White
04. Marvin "Marv" Tarplin
05. Claudette Rogers

SAD!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 08.30.12 @ 10:39am


Billy Griffin was snubbed by the Rock Hall for unknown reasons. Not right at all. He recorded 8 albums with the group: 6 for Motown, RENAISSANCE, DO IT BABY, DON'T-CHA LOVE IT, CITY OF ANGELS, THE POWER OF MUSIC, and GREATEST HITS...and 2 for Columbia: LOVE CRAZY, and THE MIRACLES (1978) The Hollywood Walk of Fame honored him, (I know, I was there) , but the RRHOF didn't. The other six Miracles, all originals, were inducted.

The biggest-selling hit single that The Miracles EVER had was led by Billy , not Smokey. That tune was "Love Machine" That song sold over 4.5 million copies, and reached #1 on the Billboard Hot 100, and # 3 on the UK Chart.

The biggest-selling album The Miracles ever had was "CITY OF ANGELS", led by Billy , not Smokey. It went Double-Platinum.

Wikipedia reports that due to legal wars with Motown Records (due to non-payment of royalties), Billy was not included in the induction.
Griffin was, however, honored with the other Miracles, when the group received a Star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame on March 20, 2009.


Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 09.9.12 @ 14:35pm


THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

The Miracles

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Warren "Pete" Moore
03. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
04. Ronald "Ronnie" White
05. Marvin "Marv" Tarplin
06. Claudette Rogers Robinson
07. Billy Griffin

THE 2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

The Miracles

01. Warren "Pete" Moore
02. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
03. Ronald "Ronnie" White
04. Marvin "Marv" Tarplin
05. Claudette Rogers Robinson

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.9.12 @ 21:25pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Griffin

**** Billy Griffin****

Billy also had another million-selling single with The Miracles....1974's "Do It Baby", and another Top 10 R&B hit with "Don't-Cha Love it" (1975). Every single album that Griffin recorded with the Miracles made the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart, and every Motown single he recorded with them made The Billboard R&B Album chart...and all but one made the Billboard Pop Album Chart. Griffin also was honored by the Hollywood Walk of Fame with the Miracles , receiving his star with them on 4/20/2009. Why he was ignored by the RRHOF is baffling . Just more politics on the part of Motown, the RRHOF, or both.
Griffin , like Smokey, was also an accomplished songwriter: He and Miracles member Pete Moore composed the entire "City Of Angels" album. Griffin has also written songs and sung backing vocals for Aretha Franklin, The O'Jays, Ronald Isley, Freda Payne, Edwin Starr, Evelyn Champagne King, Herb Alpert, Martine McCutcheon, The Emotions and many others. In 2006, Griffin released his most recent solo album, Like Water. Griffin can be seen performing "Do It Baby" and "Love Machine" with The Miracles on the Motown/Universal DVD release: Smokey Robinson & The Miracles : The Definitive Performances 1963-1987. He has also enjoyed solo recording success in England. He should have been inducted.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 09.9.12 @ 22:09pm


Oh my God! Bill G., are you Billy Griffin?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.11.12 @ 21:16pm


"Oh my God! Bill G., are you Billy Griffin?"

Heck no. But I wish I had his $$$$$ .

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 09.11.12 @ 23:19pm


Miracles SMOKEY ROBINSON,PETE MOORE, and BILLY GRIFFIN all own music publishing companies. Smokey's is called Bertam Music...a conglomeration of his two kids names BERry and TAMla. Pete and Billy are co- owners of their own music publishing company,Grimora Music, a combination of GRIffin and MOORe .

According to Wikipedia, The Miracles #1 smash hit, "LOVE MACHINE" was published by their own Grimora Music. That one song, due to being used in commercials, moves, etc.has made Pete and Billy an incredible amount of money:

"Love Machine, to which Griffin and co-writer Miracle Pete Moore were smart enough to retain publishing rights,through their own publishing company, Grimora Music, is the most-used song in Motown history and has generated more than $15 million in revenues."

...and that's not counting their Platinum album, "City Of Angels" (which was written and published in it's entirety by the two of them), and their other compositions.

Another song from that album, "Overture", was used as the official theme on Radio Monte Carlo from 1978 to 1979.

Add to that, all of the money that Miracles Robinson,Rogers, Moore, White, Tarplin, and Griffin made for the songs that they wrote for Berry Gordy's Jobete Music Publishing,and that adds up to a lot of long spending green.

So, for those of you who think that The Temptations have more money than The Miracles...think again.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 09.11.12 @ 23:42pm


The Miracles had their roots in 1950's Doo-Wop. They were the ONLY Motown group that had hits in the 50's. THEY ARE NOT "POP".

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10.12.12 @ 15:09pm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cover_versions_of_The_Miracles_songs

The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the Miracles are one of the most oft-covered groups in recorded history and the most covered Motown group of all time. Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world – in every major musical genre – over the last 50 years. Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists. Among these are:

"Going to a Go-Go" – The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair.
"I Second That Emotion" – Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, José Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones.
"(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " – The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's
"If You Can Want" – The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon.
"Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway
"Much Better Off" – J Dilla.
"You've Got The Love I Need" -J Dilla, Raekwon.
"A Legend In Its Own Time" – J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven").
"Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair.
"I Don't Blame You At All"- Rosetta Hightower.
"Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark.
"You're So Fine and Sweet"- The Undertakers.
"I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels.
"Would I Love You"-Len Barry.
"Happy Landing"- The Temptations.
"Special Occasion- Jim Gilstrap.
"I'll Try Something New" – Diana Ross & The Supremes with The Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me")
"My Girl Has Gone" – Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker.
"Yester Love" – Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra.
"The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" – The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques[disambiguation needed]
"Love Machine" – Wham!, Thelma Houston
"Determination" – The Contours.
"Choosey Beggar" – Chazz Dixon, Debby Boone.
"I've Been Good To You" – Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations.
"Mickey's Monkey" – Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque.
"More Love" – Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers.
"Ooo Baby Baby" – Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz
"Shop Around" – Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others.
"The Tears of a Clown" – La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins.
"The Tracks of My Tears " – Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamaría, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Björns Vänner (as Ser Jag Ut Att Må Bra?), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others
"Darling Dear" – The Jackson Five.
"Who's Loving You" – The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa.
" You've Really Got a Hold on Me" – Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, and She & Him among many others.
"I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" – The Who, Jimmy James.
"From Head to Toe" – Elvis Costello, Chris Clark
"A Fork in the Road " – Rebbie Jackson
"Way Over There" – The Royal Counts, The Temptations, Edwin Starr, The Marvelettes, New Man, Eddie Adams Jr.
"(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" – Chuck Jackson
"What's So Good About Goodbye" – Giant Sunflower, The Temptations, Quix*O*Tic
"More, More, More of Your Love" – Bob Brady & the Con Chords
"Doggone Right" – Bobby Davis.
"After All" – The Supremes, The Marvelettes.
"Swept For You Baby" – The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby).
"The Hurt is Over" – The DT's
"Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore, Steve Washington.
"Save Me" – The Undertones
"(You Can) Depend On Me" – The Temptations, The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway, Barbara Mason.
"Baby Baby Don't Cry" – Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt.
"Can You Love a Poor Boy" – Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker.
"Bad Girl" – Dazz Band.
"That's What Love Is Made Of" – Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians[disambiguation needed].
"We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts
"Here I Go Again" – Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones.
"Point It Out"' – The Supremes and The Temptations.
"Got A Job" – The Marcels
"Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" – The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson.
"Give Me Just Another Day" – Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5"), Schoolboy Q, Wade Waters, Christina Milian, Rick Ross, Marco Polo feat. Torae, and others.
"Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited).
"Who's Gonna Take The Blame" – Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long").
"Come On Do The Jerk" - The Righteous Brothers
References: Allmusic, The Covers Project, Second Hand Songs, "Who Sampled" website.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 11.29.12 @ 14:57pm


"Can You Do The Jerk"

lel

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 11.29.12 @ 15:42pm


The 5 artists the Miracles probably voted for this year are obvious:

The Marvelettes, Albert King, The Meters, Donna Summer and Chic

And when I say The Miracles, that includes Smokey Robinson.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 08:47am


Why do you assume that they would only vote for the black artists?

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 09:42am


Why do you assume that they would only vote for the black artists?

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 09:42am

Why on earth would the Miracles vote for Deep Purple, Procol Harum, Rush, Heart, Kraftwerk, Paul Butterfield. The Miracle pre-date them by 20 years or more. N.W.A and Public Enemy are black too. The Miracles wouldnèt vote for them.

It has nothing to do with them being black. It it because The Marvelettes and Albert King are the only contemporaries of The Miracles on the ballot, then followed by the Meters. Donna Summer and Chic because The Miracles were still producing records (Love Machine) at the time of the arrival of Donna Summer and Chic on the scene. I am sure the Miracles know the work of Donna Summer and Chic.

I am sure The Miracles would vote for their white contemporaries too when they are nominated, but none were nominated this year.

But I could see Smokey Robinson voting for Randy Newman though, a follower of The Miracles.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 10:52am


"Why on earth would the Miracles vote for Deep Purple, Procol Harum, Rush, Heart, Kraftwerk, Paul Butterfield. The Miracle pre-date them by 20 years or more. N.W.A and Public Enemy are black too. The Miracles wouldnèt vote for them." - Roy

Perhaps because their personal listening and/or knowledge of musical history in general goes beyond just their own contemporaries. Look, you are most likely correct. But it seems a bit, I don't know, presumptive to think that they would be incapable of seeing beyond their own genre or closely related genres or era. Smokey's a pretty sharp guy. Just maybe he has a bit of knowledge beyond the confines of his contemporaries (both chronologically and stylistically).

At any rate, isn't it kind of silly to proclaim what someone's ballot contained if they did not themselves reveal it?

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 11:18am


Or that all of them even returned a ballot at all. I'd love to see that statistic. What percentage out of all of the eligible voters actually bother to send in their ballot?

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 11:44am


Well...I know that the Miraculous Ones would have voted for the Marvelettes. A shame they didn't get in this year.

I fear that they won't get another chance...

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 12:45pm


Well said, Dezmond. And you are too kind to Roy, who apparently is either clairvoyant or lives in the Twilight Zone.

Posted by Paul on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 14:46pm


As an example of what I am talking about, Roy, take Randy Newman's response the other day about the Rockhall. He said he was a fan of Public Enemy and glad they were going to be inducted. If I were trying to speculate on Randy's tastes, I would not have pegged him as a PE fan. Not the same era, not the same genre...not a whole lot in common other than being sharp social critics. Point is, don't think that you actually know these people.

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 12.13.12 @ 17:52pm


And by the way, The Marvelettes and The Miracles are close, personal friends. Motown mates.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 17:24pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgoWPockgQc

*****The MIRACLES- "MR.MISERY"*****

Featuring a rare lead by CLAUDETTE (Mrs. Smokey) ROBINSON. (Smokey is the 1st tenor voice in the background).

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 01.2.13 @ 13:45pm


****BOBBY ROGERS of THE MIRACLES (1940-2013)****

SAD NEWS from Jeanne Sorensen of The Miracles Organization : Original Miracles member and 2012 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductee BOBBY ROGERS passed away today.

This has been a bad time for Motown fans....Two Temptations and one Miracle have left us in the space of just 2 weeks.(Richard Street and Damon Harris) Add to that the passing away of Famous Flames member BOBBY BENNETT. and, so far, 2013 is a bad year for fans of classic R&B in general.

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 03.3.13 @ 21:35pm


http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/03/showbiz/bobby-rogers-dead/index.html

*****BOBBY ROGERS of THE MIRACLES*****

FROM CNN this morning

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 03.3.13 @ 21:37pm




****BOBBY ROGERS of THE MIRACLES (1940-2013) and BOBBY BENNETT of THE FAMOUS FLAMES :1938-2013****



***The two Bobbys***

As was recently posted in a separate blog on Charles Crossley's "Top of The Charts" site, BOBBY ROGERS, founding member of Motown's first group THE MIRACLES, passed away on March 3rd, 2013.BOBBY BENNETT of THE FAMOUS FLAMES passed away less than a month and a half earlier, on January 18th, 2013. The similarities between these two artists are uncanny:

* Both were important, yet unsung , members of their respective groups.
* Both have the same first name.
* Both were snubbed-cut out of R&R HOF induction while the lead singers of both their respective groups were inducted.
* Both appeared in the 1964 American International Motion Picture THE T.A.M.I. Show.
* Both did exactly two appearances on The Ed Sullivan Show with their respective groups.
* Both artists were inducted with their groups in 2012.
* Both were inducted by Smokey Robinson.
* Both died less than 1 year after their Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Inductions.
* Both were singer/songwriters.
* Both were great dancers.
* Both were chosen by Special Committee.

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 03.4.13 @ 04:18am


http://www.rockhall.com/blog/post/9499_remembering-bobby-rogers-of-the-miracles/

****BOBBY ROGERS of THE MIRACLES (1940-2013)****

The Rock Hall pays tribute to original Miracles member, singer-songwriter Bobby Rogers.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 03.14.13 @ 17:12pm


http://www.freep.com/article/20130311/ENT04/130311094/Hundreds-mourners-gather-honor-Miracles-Bobby-Rogers

******BOBBY ROGERS of THE MIRACLES(1940-2013)******

R.I.P. Bobby. I hope you realized just how important your role in The Miracles was. Contrary to popular belief, it was NOT simply "only about Smokey",despite what the media would have people believe. ALL of The Miracles were important...and contributed to the group's success. And the songs you co-wrote, "THE WAY YOU DO THE THINGS YOU DO", "GOING TO A GO-GO", "FIRST I LOOK AT THE PURSE", "WHAT LOVE HAS JOINED TOGETHER","THAT'S WHAT LOVE IS MADE OF", "ONE MORE HEARTACHE","MY BABY" and numerous others,will live on forever,as recorded by not only the original Motown acts,(Miracles, Temptations, Contours, Mary Wells,Marvin Gaye, Supremes, etc.), but by the numerous cover versions recorded since, by non-Motown acts, such as THE ROLLING STONES, THE J.GEILS BAND, HALL & OATES, UB40,RITA COOLIDGE,JERRY GARCIA,BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & THE E-STREET BAND,LITTLE RICHARD,ROD STEWART,PHIL COLLINS,THE RIGHTEOUS BROTHERS, MICHAEL JACKSON,and numerous others...not to mention your co-lead vocals on the Miracles' 1962 Top 10 million-selling smash,"YOU'VE REALLY GOT A HOLD ON ME". !! I'm glad that The Miracles FINALLY got inducted into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME...something that should have happened some 27 years ago. I'm glad you lived long enough to finally see it happen....

3 Miracles now gone: Marv, Bobby,& Ronnie...3 left to carry the torch: Smokey, Claudette, and Pete .

Condolences to the surviving Miracles,including your cousin Claudette, Joan and the Kids,The Motown Family, and Miracles fans everywhere.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 04.12.13 @ 20:37pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Bpj8GtnPw

*****The MIRACLES- "MY GIRL HAS GONE"(1965)*****

Smokey, Bobby, Ron and Pete sing the follow up hit to their million-selling Grammy Hall of Fame smash "The Tracks Of My Tears".

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 07.9.13 @ 21:17pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdrBSUX5xvU

****The MIRACLES-"MORE LOVE" (1967)****

covered by Kim Carnes, Barbara Mc Nair, Paul Young, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, and Foster Sylvers.

The Miracles' original version :

This song's origins are born from real-life heartbreak and personal tragedy . Miracles lead singer Smokey Robinson wrote, produced, and sings lead on "More Love", which he considers one of his most personal compositions.Robinson wrote the song for his wife, Miracles member Claudette Rogers Robinson. Claudette had been a member of the Miracles since 1957, but retired from touring in 1964 after a series of miscarriages. She had a total of 8 miscarriages, which forced her off the road, never to tour with The Miracles again, though she continued to record with them. On one occasion, the Robinsons had a set of twins that were stillborn. According to Smokey Robinson:


"After she had a miscarriage [Claudette] would always tell me she was sorry she had let me down. I would explain that she had not let me down because she was there, she was alive; I wanted the babies, but I didn't know them. I wrote 'More Love' to let her know how I felt about her."

Unlike most other Miracles songs, the track for "More Love" was recorded by Los Angeles session musicians, instead of in Detroit, Michigan by Motown session band The Funk Brothers .
Smokey and Claudette Robinson would eventually have two healthy babies, both named after aspects of the Motown corporation: A boy,Berry (after Motown founder Berry Gordy, Jr.) and a girl, Tamla, after the Miracles' record label, Tamla ( A Motown Records subsidiary).

More Love peaked at number 23 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States, and was a Top 10 Billboard R&B hit, peaking at number five. The song's "B" side, Swept For You Baby,, was also a popular regional hit, and has inspired cover versions by The Sylvers, The Blenders, and The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby).

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 07.13.13 @ 11:39am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8z5mNNifwQ

**THE MIRACLES**

****I Gotta Dance To Keep From Crying (1963)****

covered by The High Numbers (aka THE WHO) , Jimmy James & The Vagabonds,and The Marvelettes

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 07.16.13 @ 21:07pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwvLOXdLa0

**** I LIKE IT LIKE THAT - The MIRACLES (1964)****

(from their young rebellious era)

Covered by: Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels and Bobby Vee.

I Like It Like That was a 1964 hit song by Motown group The Miracles on its Tamla label subsidiary. It reached the Top 30 of the Billboard Pop chart, charting at #27 and the Top 10 of Cash Box R&B chart, peaking at #10.(Billboard Magazine's R&B chart was temporarily suspended during this time). This is not the Chris Kenner hit song of the same name, but rather, a Miracles original, written by Miracles members Smokey Robinson and Marv Tarplin, and is included on the group's first greatest hits album, "Greatest Hits from the Beginning". It was also the title song from their long-since deleted 1964 album of the same name.
Like many Miracles hit songs, "I Like It Like That" begins with Tarplin's guitar. It features a "live party" feel, similar to their earlier 1963 hit, "Mickey's Monkey". Smokey encourages everybody to "clap your hands now, everybody, we're gonna have some fun tonight...we're gonna sing and shout...knock ourselves out...and everything's gonna be alright". The other Miracles, Bobby, Ronnie, Pete, and Claudette, join in with their trademark harmony vocals, with chants of alright, and I like it like that as The Funk Brothers add additional instruments to the mix.

"I Like It Like That" was released during a period (1964) when Smokey and the other Miracles were so busy touring as the headline act with the famed Motortown Revue shows, and writing big hits for other Motown acts, principally Mary Wells and The Temptations, that their own chart action suffered. Of the group's four single releases that year (the others were "Come On Do The Jerk", "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man in You", and "That's What Love Is Made Of"), "I Like It Like That" was the only one to crack the Billboard Pop Top 30, while two songs that they wrote for the two aforementioned acts, "My Guy" and "My Girl" respectively, both reached #1 Pop. ("My Girl" was originally intended to be recorded by The Miracles, had they released it instead, it would have given them a badly needed big hit that year). Fortunately the following year, 1965, would prove to be The Miracles' biggest year ever. "I Like It Like That" has inspired cover versions by Bobby Vee and Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. The song's B side, "You're So Fine And Sweet", featured a rare lead by Miracles second tenor Bobby Rogers (who had sung co-lead vocals with Smokey on the group's smash single "You've Really Got A Hold On Me" the previous year), and inspired a cover version by The Undertakers.


Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 07.19.13 @ 00:01am


http://www.beatlesebooks.com/hold-on-me

The info that Beatles fans don't want you to read.

***** READ IT.*****

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.5.13 @ 03:03am


oh no Bill is passing on OUR MOST FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE!

CODE RED, CODE REEEEEED!

Posted by GFW on Monday, 08.5.13 @ 10:02am


oh no Bill is passing on OUR MOST FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE!

CODE RED, CODE REEEEEED!

Posted by GFW

GFW- You of ALL people won't want to read it-especially being the big Miracles booster that you are....I mean AREN'T. (HA-HA !!)

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.5.13 @ 16:59pm


I read it.

My entire life has been a lie. Pure shattered,

gonna off myself, gdbi to evrybti

Posted by GFW on Monday, 08.5.13 @ 17:24pm


AHH...U'LL B AWITE .

You just need a "Miracle". (LOL) .

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.5.13 @ 20:07pm


I could be wrong, but I think that Bill's remark was intended as a jab to hardcore Beatles fans who think that the Beatles were singlehandedly responsible for every innovation in recorded music, and that they couldn't possibly have been influenced by anyone else. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, Bill.

I share your love for Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, Bill, although I can't classify myself as being a superfan. They're definitely my favorite Motown group.

Posted by Zach on Monday, 08.5.13 @ 23:16pm


Those type are the worst. Like the ones who act as if The Beatles influenced all music to come subsequently, as if EDM and Rap owe any debts to The Beatles.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 08.6.13 @ 10:46am


I share a part of Bill's sentiment concerning the overcritical analysis of the Beatles who think they're the ONLY reason for modern pop music (when clearly most of the stuff contributed to them were done by other bands around the same time). It makes you NOT wanna listen to the Beatles lol they were good but not THAT good. :)

Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 08.6.13 @ 15:52pm


As for the Miracles, their influence definitely should be stated. Surely they were more than just Motown, they were a doo-wop band when they started out and they had an early reputation as show stoppers on tour (the EARLY years of Motown were really fledgling so few acts had success then, the Miracles just being one of them).

Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 08.6.13 @ 15:54pm


http://www.amazon.com/forum/music?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1YA4ZE83NG9MC&cdThread=Tx2YNM1O38JVSWE

From what I've read, it was GEORGE MARTIN that was the main innovator of The Beatles sound....not The Beatles themselves(although I'm sure that it was a collective thing . I'll share more details as I do more research). However, the above link is to an AMAZON site (with no less than 10,000 posts, wow) entitled " Name 10 Groups Better Than The Beatles from the Sixties" When I mentioned "THE MIRACLES", all of the Beatles fanboys got all bent out of shape. When I showed them the link I previously posted, they got REALLY bent out of shape...

I then asserted that,it was not the opinions of Beatles FANS that mattered...what mattered is what the Beatles THEMSELVES thought. After all, THEY ought to know who influenced them and who didn't. And , facts are facts. The Miracles were one of their biggest influences. That's not just me saying that...it is an established and published fact .

And,that's not slighting Beatles fans in any way, although there ARE those who feel that they were the be-all and end-all of all music.

They just need to know that everybody is inspired and influenced by somebody...and people need to know just how groundbraking and important The Miracles were to music history.(Temptations fans need to know this TOO). They were FAR from also-rans ...and should have NEVER have had to wait 26 years and go through a "special committee" induction to finally get inducted.

They deserved much better...

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 08.7.13 @ 21:12pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrtGhh3qj0

What the Beatles article did NOT tell you was two things:

1) Yes, Smokey got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame...but the Miracles as a GROUP did also.

2) Yes ,Smokey was a master songwriter...but the REST of the Miracles also were songwriters...and contributed in a BIG way to the song's ...and the group's success. Listen carefully to what Smokey says at he end of the clip....

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08.8.13 @ 01:17am


For these reasons (and numerous other ones I've mentioned earlier) I think that it's LUDICROUS that THE MIRACLES are only at "LEVEL 3" of this so-called "Rock Hall Pyramid" I would put them at least at level 4 ...or higher .

***** WHY?? *****

Here's why. (from Wikipedia)

Complete List of The Miracles' songs covered and sampled by other artists


The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of all time. Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world – in every major musical genre – over the last 50 years. Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts.

Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists. Among these are:

"Going to a Go-Go" – The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair.

"I Second That Emotion" – Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, José Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones.

"(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " – The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's

"If You Can Want" – The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon.

"Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway

"Much Better Off" – J Dilla.

"You've Got The Love I Need" -J Dilla, Raekwon.

"A Legend In Its Own Time" – J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven").

"Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair.

"I Don't Blame You At All"- Rosetta Hightower.

"Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark.

"You're So Fine and Sweet"- The Undertakers.

"I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels.

"Would I Love You"-Len Barry.

"Happy Landing"- The Temptations.

"Special Occasion- Jim Gilstrap.

"I'll Try Something New" – Diana Ross & The Supremes with The Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me")

"My Girl Has Gone" – Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker.

"Yester Love" – Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra.

"The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" – The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques

"Love Machine" – Wham!, Thelma Houston

"Determination" – The Contours.

"Choosey Beggar" – Chazz Dixon, Debby Boone.

"I've Been Good To You" – Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations.

"Mickey's Monkey" – Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque.

"More Love" – Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers.

"Ooo Baby Baby" – Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz

"Shop Around" – Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others.

"The Tears of a Clown" – La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins.

"The Tracks of My Tears " – Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamaría, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Björns Vänner (as Ser Jag Ut Att Må Bra?), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others

"Darling Dear" – The Jackson Five.

"Who's Loving You" – The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa.

"You've Really Got a Hold on Me" – Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, UFO8, and She & Him among many others.

"I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" – The Who, Jimmy James.

"From Head to Toe" – Elvis Costello, Chris Clark

"A Fork in the Road " – Rebbie Jackson

"Way Over There" – The Royal Counts, The Temptations, Edwin Starr, The Marvelettes, New Man, Eddie Adams Jr.

"(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" – Chuck Jackson

"What's So Good About Goodbye" – Giant Sunflower, The Temptations, Quix*O*Tic

"More, More, More of Your Love" – Bob Brady & the Con Chords

"Doggone Right" – Bobby Davis.

"After All" – The Supremes, The Marvelettes.

"Swept For You Baby" – The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby).

"The Hurt is Over" – The DT's

"Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore, Steve Washington.

"Save Me" – The Undertones

"(You Can) Depend On Me" – The Temptations, The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway, Barbara Mason.

"Baby Baby Don't Cry" – Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt.

"Can You Love a Poor Boy" – Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker.

"Bad Girl" – Dazz Band.

"That's What Love Is Made Of" – Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians

"We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts

"Here I Go Again" – Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones.

"Point It Out"' – The Supremes and The Temptations.

"Got A Job" – The Marcels

"Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" – The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson.

"Give Me Just Another Day" – Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5"), Schoolboy Q, Wade Waters, Christina Milian, Rick Ross, Marco Polo feat. Torae, and others.

"Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited).

"Who's Gonna Take The Blame" – Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long").

"Come On Do The Jerk" – The Righteous Brothers

References: Allmusic, The Covers Project, Second Hand Songs, "Who Sampled" website.

(this list is incomplete, as many other artists , including several American Idol wannabes,
have sung and recorded Miracles songs since I first compiled it some 5 years ago.)

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08.8.13 @ 13:06pm


The Miracles were THE VANGUARD ACT of an entirely musical movement and genre: MOTOWN. Their success ushered in an entirely new era of music...one that is still popular and influential today.

And they did this YEARS before other Motown acts, i.e. The Supremes, The Temptations, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye,Jackson 5, etc. were ever even HEARD OF.


Most people today tend to give more credit to the aforementioned Motown acts than to the ONE Motown act that STARTED IT ALL...usually due to those acts' later ,bigger Pop success...but, make no mistake, it all started with THE MIRACLES.

From the Los Angeles Times :

"Nicknamed “the Showstoppers,” the Miracles were widely regarded as the most popular Motown group, winning massive respect from their peers — both within the world of rock and the world of soul. Indeed, the Rolling Stones, the Hollies and The Who covered their tunes, while The Beatles widely acknowledged their debt to Robinson and Co."



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Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08.8.13 @ 13:19pm


And, when you consider that THE MIRACLES have MORE Grammy Hall of Fame -inducted songs than ANY other Motown group...AND more songs in the Rock Hall's list of the "500 Songs That Shaped Rock and Roll"... there's just no contest.

Yes, The Supremes and The Temptations had bigger Pop success...but, SO WHAT? The members of neither group wrote a single Top 40 hit...much less a Top 10 or Top 20.. all style...no substance. So, how did they get inducted before The Miracles ? (No, I don't know either).

9 of The Temptations first 12 hits were written by members of The MIRACLES.

The Supremes were discovered by Smokey.

Stevie Wonder was discovered by Miracle RONNIE WHITE.

Marvin Gaye began his career at Motown as The Miracles' DRUMMER. And, his first two million-selling records , "I'LL BE DOGGONE" and AIN'T THAT PECULIAR" were written by ROBINSON ROGERS MOORE WHITE & TARPLIN.
(3 guesses who THEY are).

members of the Miracles also wrote songs for:
THE CONTOURS * BRENDA HOLLOWAY * KIM WESTON * THE FOUR TOPS * MARY WELLS * THE MARVELETTES, and numerous others...in and out of Motown.

That is why, in the previous clip, Smokey admits that it was the talents of ALL of The Miracles, not just HIM, that should have been acknowledged a LONG time ago.

The Miracles were responsible, either directly or indirectly, for the success of EVERY ACT ON THE MOTOWN LABEL .

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 08.10.13 @ 03:43am


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Miracles_awards_and_achievements

*****THE MIRACLES' AWARDS AND ACHIEVEMENTS*****



...And, by the way, Zach, you're absolutely CORRECT.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 08.10.13 @ 03:47am


The Miracles

Smokey Robinson (vocals; born February 19, 1940), Warren “Pete” Moore (vocals; born November 19, 1939), Claudette Rogers Robinson (vocals; born September 1, 1942), Bobby Rogers (vocals; February 19, 1940), Marv Tarplin (guitar; born June 13, 1941, died September 30, 2011), Ronnie White (vocals; born April 15, 1939, died August 26, 1995), Billy Griffin (vocals; born August 15, 1950)

THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

The Miracles

01. Smokey Robinson
02. Warren “Pete” Moore
03. Claudette Rogers Robinson
04. Bobby Rogers
05. Marv Tarplin
06. Ronnie White
07. Billy Griffin

THE 2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

The Miracles

01. Warren "Pete" Moore
02. Claudette Rogers Robinson
03. Bobby Rogers
04. Marv Tarplin
05. Ronnie White

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.24.13 @ 07:53am


The videos on youtube of the Miracles Hollywood Walk of Fame induction show people standing between Billy Griffin and the other members of the Miracles on stage around the podium. Also, Billy Griffin was not included in the group photo with the other Miracles who attended the ceremony, but there is a picture of him by himself with the STAR. I'm thinking it was Griffin's choice, out of respect for the original members. As far as all 7 members of the Miracles being inducted onto the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but only 5 of them being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I'm guessing Smokey Robinson and Berry Gordy had something to do with that. They thought, well, the Hollywood Walk of Fame is not as important as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, so we will let the Hollywood Chamber include Billy Griffin in the induction. It wouldn't have been fair to induct Billy Griffin into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of the Miracles when the person he replaced wouldn't be included in the induction as well. All 7 members of The Miracles should have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1987 as The Miracles.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.24.13 @ 08:30am


http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/112/ce22e58ac7f64eb2b5628f24f50939a8/l.jpg

Photo of Billy Griffin of the Miracles at the 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame induction ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.24.13 @ 08:39am


http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Miracles+Honored+Hollywood+Walk+Fame+U00hPFE6xTZl.jpg

Photo of the Miracles at the 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame induction ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.24.13 @ 08:41am


Remember Joel Whitburn's plan to open an American Music Hall of Fame? I don't think this is it because his was to include American acts only.

...And here we go again!!! America's Pop Music Hall of Fame announced the nominees for 2014. Just as stupid as the Rock Hall. They are nominating Dion without the Belmonts and they are nominating the Miracles as Smokey & Miracles. No room on your form to type in Robinson? Just call them the Miracles!!!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.24.13 @ 11:23am


Bill G.! Did you vote yet for the Miracles for America's Pop Music Hall of Fame?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.24.13 @ 15:23pm


The Miracles

Smokey Robinson (vocals; born February 19, 1940), Warren “Pete” Moore (vocals; born November 19, 1939), Claudette Rogers Robinson (vocals; born September 1, 1942), Bobby Rogers (vocals; February 19, 1940, died March 3, 2013), Marv Tarplin (guitar; born June 13, 1941, died September 30, 2011), Ronnie White (vocals; born April 15, 1939, died August 26, 1995), Billy Griffin (vocals; born August 15, 1950)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.24.13 @ 19:48pm


Since the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame made the mistake of inducting Smokey Robinson without the Miracles and then inducting the Miracles as an addendum to Smokey Robinson, that makes their induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. Billy Griffin was a member of the Miracles, not Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, and this would also be an explanation for his exclusion from the Rock Hall induction.

Bill G., remind me who represented Ronnie White and Marv Tarplin at the 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame. Also, who's idea was it to rename the Miracles, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles? Was it just Berry Gordy, or was it a group decision?

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.2.13 @ 09:15am


Since the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame made the mistake of inducting Smokey Robinson without the Miracles and then inducting the Miracles as an addendum to Smokey Robinson, that makes their induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame as Smokey Robinson and the Miracles. Billy Griffin was a member of the Miracles, not Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, and this would also be an explanation for his exclusion from the Rock Hall induction.

Bill G., remind me who represented Ronnie White and Marv Tarplin at the 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame. Also, who's idea was it to rename the Miracles, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles? Was it just Berry Gordy, or was it a group decision?

To answer your last question first,Roy, Motown President Berry Gordy made the decision to change The Miracles' name. The reason , which Smokey alluded to on The Miracles 2006 DVD, was that having the lead performer's name out front would increase record sales and the amount that the group could demand for live performance fees. It worked. The amount that The Miracles demanded for live shows went up from 2-1/2 to five fold.

Also, the first Miracles album with Smokey's name out front, 1965's Going To A Go-Go, became their first Billboard Top 10 Album...launching no less than 7 hit singles from that one album. BUT....

It wasn't like The Miracles didn't have big hits BEFORE the name change...because they did.

Overall, in the long run, I think the name change hurt the group, because it set off a series of events leading to public perception of Smokey as a solo artist, when he really wasn't.This included Smokey's SOLO Rock Hall Induction, and his SOLO Hollywood Walk of Fame Star....errors that took over 20 years to finally correct.

At the Miracles' 2009 Hollywood Walk of Fame Ceremony,Gloria White,widow of Miracle Ronnie White, accepted for him.

Miracle Marv Tarplin, who was a notoriously shy, private person , opted not to come to the ceremony.... so his star was sent to him.

However, according to Jeanne Sorensen of The Miracles Organization, Marv did explain to her that, if The Miracles were ever to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, He would DEFINITELY show up for THAT.

Sadly, it was not to be. Marv died on September 30, 2011, just 7 months before The Miracles were inducted, on April 14th 2012.

Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 10.2.13 @ 16:13pm


As a side point, Berry Gordy also changed The Supremes' name to "Diana Ross & The Supremes" and Martha & The Vandellas' name to Martha Reeves & The Vandellas.

Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 10.2.13 @ 16:15pm


http://www.amazon.com/Smokey-Robinson-Definitive-Performances-1963-1987/dp/B000JMK6IK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380745100&sr=8-1&keywords=the+miracles+motown+dvd

On that same Miracles DVD, Smokey pointed out that,despite the name change, He NEVER made any more or less than the other Miracles. They all made the SAME AMOUNT for record royalties and performance fees. They also shared writers royalties on songs the other Miracles contributed to. Since Smokey was the Vice President of Motown Records , he also made an executive's salary, so, he didn't NEED to take money from the other members for things that they did as a GROUP.

Contrast that with James Brown, who took all of his own money...and most of the Famous Flames' performance and royalty monies too. Lawsuits are STILL pending on THAT CASE.

Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 10.2.13 @ 16:27pm


THE MIRACLES

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.9.13 @ 07:42am


I think the surviving members of the Miracles should get back into the studio and record one last album together with all new material as The Miracles: Smokey Robinson, Warren “Pete” Moore, Claudette Rogers Robinson and Billy Griffin. Would they ever agree to do it? Can they all still sing?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.12.13 @ 06:48am


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles#The_1987_Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_controversy

From Wikipedia:

"In 2014, The Miracles are scheduled to be inductees into The new R&B Music Hall of Fame in Cleveland. On their website it is stated that The Miracles' exclusion from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was "outrageous"m pointing out Robinson’s solo induction went against its own rules. Robinson had only spent 14 years as a solo performer and his name wasn’t in front of the group’s until 1967. It further stated the Miracles were "the heartbeat of Motown in the 1960′s, one of the best vocal groups ever formed and owners of some of the greatest records Rock has ever produced." It was also stated also that with The Miracles’ induction, the Hall “remedied its most shameful chapter and the biggest miracle is it took this long to do it."

Posted by Bill G on Thursday, 11.21.13 @ 22:42pm


http://hitparadehalloffame.com/smokey-robinson-the-miracles-2/

Hey Roy...it FINALLY happened. THE MIRACLES were finally inducted into the HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME !!!

(Their year is erronously listed as 2011, but they just got in.)

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 01.25.14 @ 20:16pm


http://hitparadehalloffame.com/smokey-robinson-the-miracles-2/

Hey Roy...it FINALLY happened. THE MIRACLES were finally inducted into the HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME !!!

(Their year is erronously listed as 2011, but they just got in.)

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 01.25.14 @ 20:16pm


http://hitparadehalloffame.com/inductees/

Here is the list of inductees into the HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME.The MIRACLES are in column 3.

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 01.25.14 @ 20:18pm


I don't even remember seeing them listed as nominees for this year. How did this happen?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01.25.14 @ 22:14pm


...Because , unlike the R&R HoF, at the Hit Parade Hall of Fame, once an artist is nominated, they are NOT removed from the nominating list if they don't get in on the first year of qualification...In other words, "once nominated....ALWAYS nominated"..until they get in . If they don't receive the number of votes to qualify the first year of nomination, They REMAIN nominated until the voters finally vote them in.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame would do well to imitate their example.

I received this e-mail from John Rook of the Hit Parade Nominating Committee, dated Dec. 13th, 2013:

Hi Bill,

Don't know of any problem at all, simply check the nominees http://hitparadehalloffame.com/smokey-robinson-the-miracles-2/ and you'll find Smokey & the Miracles. Judging from the vote of fans they could be inducted into the Hit Parade Hall of Fame next month. In fact, they were originally nominated five years ago but after three years didn't receive the votes necessary, but appear to have finally qualified this year.

Thanks

John Rook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mcec_bV4Kg (Preview) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rook

(strangely,the year an artist first qualifies is listed as the year of induction, even if they were inducted in a later year).

Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 01.25.14 @ 22:40pm


http://www.walkoffame.com/the-miracles

Thanks again to the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce for inducting The Miracles the right way!

THE 2009 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

THE MIRACLES

01. William "Smokey" Robinson
02. Robert "Bobby" Rogers
03. Ronald "Ronnie" White
04. Warren "Pete" Moore
05. Marvin "Marv" Tarplin
06. Claudette Rogers
07. Billy Griffin

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 06.22.14 @ 20:00pm


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/pass-the-mic-15-big-hits-not-sung-by-the-lead-singer-20140722/the-miracles-love-machine-pt-1-1976-0417659#ixzz38I2jWm5B

Pass the Mic: 15 Big Hits Not Sung by the Lead Singer
"Beth," "Sister Christian" and more smashes performed by unlikely vocalists

The Miracles, "Love Machine Pt. 1" (1976)

The Miracles may seem to be synonymous with Smokey Robinson, but after the lead singer left the group, they recorded a concept album called City of Angels about a small-town couple who travel to L.A. to become stars. After the pair make it, "Love Machine" is how the boyfriend describes himself (over a supple disco beat). With Billy Griffin holding down lead vocals, the single hit Number One and spent 28 weeks on the Hot 100 — more than any other Miracles song.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 07.23.14 @ 07:47am


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Miracles_awards_and_achievements#The_Miracles.27_.22Hall_of_Fame.22_recognitions

***The MIRACLES' "HALL of FAME" RECOGNITIONS***

*Vocal Group Hall Of Fame

*Hollywood Walk Of Fame

*Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

*Grammy Hall of Fame

*Doo-Wop Hall of Fame (inducted 2011)

*Michigan Rock and Roll Legends Hall of Fame

*Hit Parade Hall of Fame

*Goldmine Magazine Hall of Fam

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10.11.14 @ 13:53pm


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