Pat Benatar

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 2004 (The 2005 Induction Ceremony)

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Heartbreaker (1979)
Hit Me With Your Best Shot (1980)
Love Is A Battlefield (1983)

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Will Pat Benatar be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
"Musical excellence is the essential qualification for induction."
   

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Pat Benatar is a female rock idol!! of course she should be in the rock and roll hall of fame!

Posted by Annie on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 13:04pm


I agree. Not many women have been inducted--particularly solo artists--and the fact that Deborah Harry is one of them makes the case for Benatar even more profound.

Posted by Joe on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 20:33pm


Pat Benatar is clearly a talented singer-just as good/better than some of the others of her day-say Chrissie Hynde , and Debbie Harry (who happen to already be in the Hall OF Fame).

Though her lyrics too often tend to be of the "boy meets girl, boy abuses girl, girl screams bloody murder" variety, compared to the above mentioned acts the guitar work on her records is better for the most part.

The only problem for Pat at least in the eyes of the RRHOF is she lacks that little trendy new wave/punk pedigree.

Posted by SG on Friday, 07.6.07 @ 02:26am


every girl in late 80 ,S wanted to look like pat benatar - her music was in clubs and on radio - really . she should be considered - would also give nice performance at the show - she still can perform.

Posted by ms on Wednesday, 08.1.07 @ 06:47am


no question - should be in !!

Posted by ms on Wednesday, 08.29.07 @ 11:56am


The fact that Madonna is being considered for induction before Pat Benatar reflects how slowly but surely the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is losing its significance and credibility. With a classically-trained five-octave coloratura mezzo-soprano, Benatar has one of the greatest rock'n'roll voices of all time - right up there with Roy Orbison - and sang some of the best and most popular rock singles of the 1980s. Furthermore, with a successful 25-year marriage, two daughters and a complete absence of tabloid fodder, she (more than any other female vocalist) helped destroy the myth that a woman could not succeed in the rock music business without succumbing to drug abuse, alcholism, adultery, or any such negative behavior. And finally, she is arguably the most successful female rocker in history, with her numerous gold and platinum record awards worldwide, her awards (Grammy Awards, American Music Awards, Rock Radio Awards), and continued radio airplay. She has influenced scores of women from various music genres, from Olivia Newton-John to Sheena Easton, from Tricia Yearwood to Martina McBride, from Gwen Stefani to Juice Newton. This is a class act - and a classic rocker - whose induction is long overdue.

Posted by ko on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 11:30am


Pat Benatar should be in for the scene in Fast Times at Ridgemont High alone(where a wannabee cruises the lunchroom).
Pat influenced almost every rock chick that came after her. The only thing holding her back is the arguable cheesiness of her music(but I love it). Aside from maybe Debbie Harry,no other female rocker was so ubiquitous in their time. Not Grace Slick,not Janis,not Ann Wilson,not Patti Smith.

Posted by rob on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 14:56pm


Oh, and these "essential albums" are often jokes. Pat's most essential album is not Tropico,but Crimes of Passion.

Posted by rob on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 14:59pm


I agree Benatar's "Crimes of Passion" is her essential catalog album, She won a Grammy for it, rightfully beating out Ronstadt's good "Mad Love". However she did not make too many and her success run was brief. Unlike, Ronstadt who was THE ROCK CHICK throughout the 1970's, sold more ALBUMS than any other woman in the 1970's, moved between alternative country, rock n roll, and soul, friends with Janis Joplin, survived and has been around since 1964.

Even Pat Benatar once said "How can I be the best (female) rock singer, Ronstadt is still Alive!" (Record Review, December, 1980)

What Ronstadt's Arena Rock success did was allow girls like Benatar and Debbie Harry the chance to headline big stadiums as a female act. And make more money at it (there is way more money touring than in albums) and not just be a studio album chick: like Brenda Lee, The Supremes, Joni Mitchell, Carly Simon, Carol King, Mariah Carey, etc. For this alone, Ronstadt comes before any rock chicks of the 1980's. She was a pioneer that did it ON THE BIG STAGE WITH THE BIG BOYS.
However, Benatar did play tough on stage and wasn't the little flower, so she did open some new ground, more so than Madonna, who I think wasn't ahead of Benatar in toughness and guile.

Posted by RockHistorian on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 15:18pm


I agree Benatar's "Crimes of Passion" is her essential catalog album, She won a Grammy for it, rightfully beating out Ronstadt's good "Mad Love". However she did not make too many and her success run was brief. Unlike, Ronstadt who was THE ROCK CHICK throughout the 1970's, sold more ALBUMS than any other woman in the 1970's, moved between alternative country, rock n roll, and soul, friends with Janis Joplin, survived and has been around since 1964.

Even Pat Benatar once said "How can I be the best (female) rock singer, Ronstadt is still Alive!" (Record Review, December, 1980)

What Ronstadt's Arena Rock success did was allow girls like Benatar and Debbie Harry the chance to headline big stadiums as a female act. And make more money at it (there is way more money touring than in albums) and not just be a studio album chick: like Brenda Lee, The Supremes, Joni Mitchell, Carly Simon, Carol King, Mariah Carey, etc. For this alone, Ronstadt comes before any rock chicks of the 1980's. She was a pioneer that did it ON THE BIG STAGE WITH THE BIG BOYS.
However, Benatar did play tough on stage and wasn't the little flower, so she did open some new ground, more so than Madonna, who I think wasn't ahead of Benatar in toughness and guile.

Posted by RockHistorian on Monday, 10.1.07 @ 15:18pm


Growing up in the rural south in the late 70's early 80's with only a radio and a turntable, Benatar's voice towered over other voices that came over the radio waves. She was the one of only a few female voices that conquered male dominated radio. When "video killed the radio star" Benatar also created the formula of image and image evolution to create various styles that kept her in the "market place".
When I think of how video has become essential in image making, Benatar was the first to successfully use image and sound to create the formula that keeps people watching.
Between the years of 1979-1985,her craft created 19 top 40 songs countless videos, tours and costumes that got a lot of attention.
Benatar and co. created the formula.

Posted by Darrell Coble on Monday, 10.15.07 @ 20:19pm


If Patti Smith is in; then Pat in her high heels, spandex pants and amazing voice should be in.

Posted by Dameon on Saturday, 11.24.07 @ 08:24am


If Pat Benatar owes her career to Patti Smith, Ann and Nancy Wilson, and Deborah Harry, then Joan Jett, Lita Ford and--to a lesser extent--Sheryl Crow owe theirs to Benatar. She deserves induction, though she may not be first in line.

Posted by Joe on Monday, 12.24.07 @ 09:00am


Why would Pat Benetar owe her career to Patti Smith? I don't think anyone can make that comparison. As for Joan and Lita; IMO, Suzi Quatro deserves some of the acolades.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 12.24.07 @ 11:08am


To Dameon:

The answer: blatant sexism.

I have heard it argued--but I have heard it argued that EVERY female rock artist owes their career to every female rock artist that came before. Which is why I usd the word "if". Sort of like President Clinton arguing the definition of "is".

Posted by Joe on Monday, 12.24.07 @ 14:54pm


If Madonna get's in before Pat Benatar The Rock is Hall is seriously losing its'credibility. Pat Benatar was a classically trained vocalist and the dominant female vocalist of the 80's. This isn't a Fashion/Popularity contest folks. The same goes for Ann & Nancy Wilson they deserve to be enshrined as well.

Posted by Jeffrey Miller on Friday, 01.18.08 @ 23:54pm


This a glowing example of why the people need to establish a TRUE Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, like on the internet. Madonna is a "media creation", had great producers and writers...no more or less. On the other hand Pat Benatar ROCKS!! That pile of steel & bricks in Cleveland obviously doesn't represent the people!!

Posted by Terry on Sunday, 01.27.08 @ 08:44am


This a glowing example of why the people need to establish a TRUE Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, like on the internet.

Why does RnR even need a HoF?

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 01.27.08 @ 15:56pm


The fools who think Pat only has a 22% chance of being inducted are indeed fools. She's only been eligible for a few years and SHE WILL BE INDUCTED.

Critics really have no idea what they're doing, and if you look at the fans, 92% think she deserves to be in, and the other 8% THINK THAT THEY'RE CRITICS.

Critics serve no value, actually, and I'm a former professional, highly-paid critic. I got so sick of it that I walked away and became a teacher!

Pat, we love you and you will be inducted very soon. Mellencamp getting in seals the deal.

Posted by Lance Swanson on Saturday, 02.2.08 @ 23:52pm


Pat Benatar I feel should have been inducted before Madonna. But hey what do I know, and I'm not saying Madonna does not belong there she does just not before Pat.
And whas up with Bernie Taupin not being inducted in the song writters catagory?

Posted by Lisa on Wednesday, 03.5.08 @ 06:25am


Pat Benatar belongs in the Rock N Roll Hall of fame it is outrageous that she has not been inducted, She has one outstanding voice and is an outstanding person as well.

All the best to Pat, her family and to her outstanding Fan Club !!

T. Mondaro
Harrison, NJ

Posted by Tony on Tuesday, 03.11.08 @ 09:17am


Someone voted "no" on Pat Benatar being in the HoF?? You need help...!!!

Posted by Terry on Tuesday, 03.11.08 @ 20:38pm


blondie is in,pat benatar isn't,you have got to be kidding!

Posted by Ashley Pierce on Sunday, 03.23.08 @ 13:25pm


Pat Benatar is the queen of rock hands down!!!! I'm speaking on behalf of the gay community, and probably alot of feminest as well. We are outraged that Benatar is not in the rock hall of fame. This is shamfull and a discrace to music fans all over the world gay or straight. Madonna is great but People like Ann and Nancy Wilson and Pat Benatar, were, and are more influential on many women in music. The whole hall of fame thing has become just some big fake media maker. That would expalin why Madonna would be in there before Benatar and Ann and Nancy Wilson from Heart.

Posted by danney on Tuesday, 03.25.08 @ 14:07pm


While not a huge fan...I agree if Madonna is in, Benatar and Heart should be in.

Posted by Steve on Tuesday, 03.25.08 @ 14:54pm


Pat Benatar needs to be inducted immediately!! I can not believe Blondie and Madonna beat her to it! Madonna should not even be eligible!! If it were not for Pat most of the female artists would've never made it there at all or been heard etc etc. I have strong feelings about this can you tell? GO PAT!! EVERYONE vote for PAT! NOW!!

Posted by Katy on Tuesday, 03.25.08 @ 19:50pm


IM SPEECHLESS, I HAVE WROTE TO THE HALL OF FAME EVERYTIME SINCE 2004 ON WHY SHE HASNT BEEN NOMINATED. EACH TIME THEY TELL ME SHE IS A GREAT PERFORMER AN WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE HALL OF FAME ITS JUST NOT HER TIME. WELL I SAY TO THEM THEY DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ROCK. AN PAT WAS AN IS THE QUEEN OF ROCK REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DO. PAT HAS MORE TALENT THAN MOST THAT ARE IN THE HALL AT THIS POINT. IVE BEEN A FAN FROM THE START AN ILL BE A FAN UNTIL I DIE. PAT KEEP SINGING THAT ROCKING MUSIC THAT I LOVE SOOOO MUCH.

Posted by MAX on Tuesday, 04.1.08 @ 09:45am


Pat Benatar has a wonderful voice, and really did some good work the 1980's. She put her stamp on music. I still like a couple of her songs. I think she should eventually be inducted.

However, she came at the right time, when Popular music needed another solo female artist to band around and adore. She might be inducted, later on because she probably influenced - but all in all, Benatar owes her commercial success to Linda Ronstadt. Plain and simple. For you not old enough, it hard to explain the enormous effect Ronstadt had for girl singers.

But as a man, I believe more woman should be inducted - especially the commercially successful ones that made a name for themselves against the boys. But we are not seeing that, we are seeing the women that the men want inducted - for whatever reason. And the bar is always raised for other women. I say Induct Pat Benatar and Linda Ronstadt, and eventually Sheryl Crow too.

Posted by JackKeys on Sunday, 08.3.08 @ 12:56pm


I don't see or hear any influence of Linda Ronstadt in the music of Pat Benetar. I have read and heard many interviews with P.B. and she has never once mentioned Linda as an influence.

Linda certainly had influence on the scene, both contemporaries and those that followed. Emmy Lou Harris constantly sing the praises of Linda and you can hear some of these influences in the Dixie Chicks.

Pat Benetar was influenced by Zep and the harder rock bands of the late 60's, early 70's.

Just because Pat is a woman doesn't mean that she had to be influenced by other women.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 08.4.08 @ 07:33am


Just saw her show in OC on August 1st and SHE STILL ROCKS!!! It wasn't until I read the concert review yesterday that I learned she was not in the Hall of Fame. What a joke! Benatar has true talent and is a class act - definitely should be in the Hall!

Posted by Beth on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 13:22pm


Maybe I'm underestimating her impact, but the way I see it Pat Benatar's induction should be just as controversial as Percy Sledge's. Great voice, but had only song that could be considered a classic.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 13:42pm


She has a horrible voice

Posted by Ant Farm on Friday, 09.19.08 @ 18:20pm


Pat Benatar should be in. There really is nothing more to say.

Posted by DC on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 12:10pm


One atrocious song and so many people think she should be in?Why don't we just induct SirMix a Lot or Kenny G

Posted by Voj on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 17:56pm


say what you will about pat benatar but one fact that is hard to challenge is this; only maddona and tina turner had bigger careers(as solo artists) in the 1980's.

ok everyone has haerd of "love is a battlefeild" and "hit me with your best shot" but how about
"we belong", "heartbreaker",
"shadows of the night", or "invincible"

Posted by baw "the lumberjack" on Thursday, 10.2.08 @ 15:34pm


Pat Benatar will get her chance, count on it. She was NOT a one-hit wonder. She has what 4? Grammys for Best Female Rock Vocalist and about 20 hit songs. Also Rolling Stone loves her - which makes me surprized she's not already been nominated.

To the guy who said "she has a horrible voice", I suggest you get yor ears fixed (or maybe whats between them). Pat Benatar is one of the best female rock singers ever.

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 15:08pm


You're delusional/stupid Telarock. Pat Benatar has a terrible voice. Someone with no taste like you shouldn't talk. Now go back to talking to rocks you freak.

Posted by Freak on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 16:03pm


LOL Telarock, you just got served sucker!

Posted by joker on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 16:04pm


Okay Freak, ya big smartipants, you tell me. Who has a good voice? (it had better be good)

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 16:40pm


I'm playing it safe and going with Elvis

Posted by Freak on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 16:42pm


You name me a woman who sings better than Pat Benatar!

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 16:46pm


Sorry, I gotta sign off for now. But you can think about it.

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 16:48pm


Let's see. How about: Patsy Cline, Tammy Wynette, Stevie Nicks, Janis Joplin, Aretha Franklin, etc

Posted by Freak on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 17:08pm


To Freak: I like Patsy Cline too. She sang Crazy. However, I also like Pat Benatar. My favorite songs of hers are We Belong and Invincible. She has a beautiful voice and she is so cute. I think she was a big fan of Judy Garland.

Posted by Cokey on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 10:23am


To Freak and Ant-Farm (probly Freak's alias) even though you are a fooler, I will answer your statement re women who can sing in the same class as Pat Benatar:
"Let's see. How about: Patsy Cline, Tammy Wynette, Stevie Nicks, Janis Joplin, Aretha Franklin, etc"
(Posted by Freak on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 17:08pm)

4 of 5 ladies you gave are already Rock museum inductees (not sure about Tammy Wynette)? You gave the cream of the crop, and I'm not going to knock any of them down. Of the 5, only Janis Joplin and Stevie Nicks are considered in the hard rock genre of Pat Benatar. Don't have time now, but later I will give insight on how Benatar stacks up against those 2 particular icons. (btw: the ", etc" is noted.)

Check back later, you Benatar hater, Telarock baiter! I will mash yor argument like mash taters.

Posted by Telarock on Monday, 11.10.08 @ 09:29am


Look forward to it. By the way, Ant Farm is not my alias

Posted by Freak on Monday, 11.10.08 @ 10:39am


Responding to Freak and any others who may doubt the singing prowess of Pat Benatar.

Q: Can she stand as a rock singer in a class w/ Janis Joplin and Stevie Nicks?
A: My first thought was, is she really that good??! So I went to the videos to get the full experience. And now I am prepared to state boldly, plainly: YES, PAT BENATAR CAN STAND WITH ANYONE! In fact, if you take in the video experience, you may wind up asking yorself, can the others stand w/ her? Dont' take my word for it, do the experience yorself. Below I will put some links:

Pat Benatar 10 essential songs:
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YOU BETTER RUN www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz1RiIp-9mU
HIT ME WITH YOUR BEST SHOT
TREAT ME RIGHT
FIRE & ICE www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnpUKf--VmA
SHADOWS OF THE NIGHT
LOVE IS A BATTLEFIELD
WE BELONG www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtuyYAL-nNY
INVINCIBLE www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJLCypVk1uQ
HEARTBREAKER www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcSBurP8yLs
PROMISES IN THE DARK

Janis Joplin 10 essential songs:
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Piece of My Heart
Me and Bobby McGee
Ball and Chain
Move Over
Get It While You Can
Down On Me
Cry Baby
Half Moon
I Need a Man to Love
Mercedes-Benz

Stevie Nicks 10 essential songs:
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Rhiannon
Dreams
Landslide
Stand Back
Sara
Stop Draggin My Heart Around (duet w/Tom Petty)
Gypsy
Seven Wonders
Angel
Silver Springs

NOTES:
Stevie Nicks is in the RHOF as a member of Fleetwood Mac, not a soloist. I chose 10 songs she sang lead.
The 10 songs I chose for Pat Benatar are my own discretion, there are 6-8 others that could also have been chosen.

One last thing, call it a public service for DARE (drug resistance). We unfortunately don't seem to much mind our rock musicians being drug & alcohal abusers. Its something we take for granted, even come to expect. But Pat Benatar, as far as I can tell, lives pretty clean? She is juiced up only by the music and her own feisty human nature. Go back up and read this post, it's good (not mine).
(Posted by ko on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 11:30am)

Pat Benatar has an operatic voice and she puts incredible energy into her songs. She is (my opinion) possibly the greatest female rock singer ever. She is unsurpassed by anyone that I know of. She WILL be in the Rock Hall of Fame someday for sure.

Ya feelin me now Freakman? I hope.

Posted by Telarock on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @ 12:53pm


With a classically-trained five-octave coloratura mezzo-soprano, Benatar has one of the greatest rock'n'roll voices of all time.
(Posted by ko on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 11:30am)

Although I referenced this post, I honestly don't know about the "five-octave coloratura" part? (smile)

Posted by Telarock on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @ 13:09pm


Benatar has at least a four-and-a-half octave range (some say five). She is able to take her voice from an operatic ballad like "Here's My Heart" to an insane rocker like "Heartbreaker." She is STILL able to do so. She put forth not only a strong image for women, but an aggressive, assertive one -- it had never been done before successfully -- and she did not sacrifice her sexuality to do it. She was clearly not androgynous: she was a rocker, but definitely all woman. For the better part of a decade, she was also the queen of rock. She had more hits than Tina, Cyndi, Joan, Chrissie, Stevie or Debbie in the 80s. Saying her operatic voice (literally -- she sang opera before rock) is horrible is simply ridiculous...you can say you don't personally like it, but to call it horrible, you'd have to be a baiting troller or just completely unaware.

The persons you have listed -- Patsy, Stevie, etc. all have great, evocative voices (and I do love them all). But technically, for range, variation and power, they do not compare to the abilities of Pat Benatar. That's not an opinion -- it's quantifiable. You'd have to point to Whitney or Mariah to find more range (and then only by half an octave). And I can't think of anyone who's got more variation or power. Thanks fer tryin', though!

Posted by Robb on Wednesday, 11.19.08 @ 01:39am


"She was clearly not androgynous: she was a rocker, but definitely all woman." - Robb
======================================================
Well that's very nice to know Robb. And last I knew she still is a woman. Was there ever some doubt?!! (smile)

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 11.27.08 @ 19:24pm


Who cares how many octaves she has!! She has done nothing to influence rock n roll! Nor was she influential to anything. You can delude yourself if you want to, but I agree with the "freak" person. No.

Posted by Freeze on Saturday, 12.6.08 @ 10:15am


Octaves indicate a singers' vocal range Freeze. Doesnt mean anything to you, huh?

Posted by Worm on Saturday, 12.6.08 @ 13:58pm


No. It doesn't. There.

Posted by Freeze on Saturday, 12.6.08 @ 14:05pm


No to the androgynous shemale that is Pat(rick) Stinkatar

Posted by Whodunwat on Sunday, 12.21.08 @ 10:20am


She's not androgynous. What are you blind? She's a babe.

Posted by Metalsmith on Sunday, 12.21.08 @ 11:57am


Pat Benatar a he-she? Whodunwat, what a joker you are. You might be thinking of Julia Sweeney's "Pat" character on SNL. Did you ever see it? It was funny because nobody could ever figure out what sex she was.

Posted by Cokey on Sunday, 12.21.08 @ 14:37pm


She most definitely deserves to be in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame. The official Billboard Magazine recently declared that according to record sales and chart positions that she is the #1 female rock singer of all time. If that doesn't warrant inclusion than I can't think of what does.

Posted by SLS on Sunday, 12.21.08 @ 22:00pm


One more thing to "Freeze". You are dead wrong about her not having influence with other singers. In recent interviews, the like of: Melissa Etheridge, Sheryl Crowe, Sarah McLachlan, Mariah Carey, Gwen Stefani, Tori Amos, The Dixie Chicks, Berlin, just to name a few, have all listed Benatar as an influence on them musically. She has also received praise from many of her contemporaries like: Ann Wilson, Stevie Nicks, Chrissie Hynde, Kate Bush, Debbie Harry, and others.

So you are wrong about her contribution. That is not an opinion. That is a fact. Just because you try and say otherwise doesn't make it at all true.

Posted by SLS on Sunday, 12.21.08 @ 22:08pm


You can't make up facts SLS. No one ever cited Pat Benatar as an influence. Lies, damn lies and statistics won't get you anywhere buddy

#1?? I'll give you #1!!

Posted by Freeze on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 11:09am


Clearly the cold weather has frozen what few brain cells Freeze has left.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 11:11am


The howling cold space between your ears Freeze!
Re: The so-called argument you say you won? Benatar case is closed. Find me some other page if you want to get your head thawed.

Posted by Worm on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 12:39pm


One Hit wonder

No influence

Terrible voice

Androgyny

No

Posted by zygote on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 16:10pm


Not true- people have talked about Pat Benatar (some of the comments even appear in her recent Greatest Hits compilation).

And, one-hit wonder? Is that what it's called when one has three top 10 hits, and more than 10 top 40 hits? lol

But, nonetheless, while I love Pat B., I don't think she'll be considered for the HOF- her material is viewed as too lightweight.

Posted by JR on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 16:26pm


Oops- make that four top 10s- "Love is a Battlefield," "We Belong," "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" and "Invincible."

Granted, "Heartbreaker"- which wasn't even a top 10- probably is her best-known track, alongside 'Hit Me..."

Posted by JR on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 16:28pm


Zygote - do you even know who Pat Benetar is? Because by your comments, it appears you have no clue.

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 18:00pm


We already have one androgynous hooker inducted (Madonna) we don't need Pat(rick) Stinkatar

Posted by Sour Cream on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 18:19pm


Here is a question - why does someone feel that it is important to constantly change their name they use here even though it is obvious by the writing that it is all one person?

Posted by Dameon on Monday, 12.22.08 @ 20:11pm


I never said it was you Freeze - but if you read through many of the comments, you will know what I am talking about. It's the one with the Mama complex.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 12.24.08 @ 14:43pm


Dameon, maybe there is a posse of like-minded individuals? X-spec, Sour Cream, God, and zygote all seem to be gender recognition challenged. And BTW, where I come from, it is blasphemy to call yourself God. Whoever you are, may God (the real One) help you!

PS: Future Rock Hall - this page has gotten spammed up by various "sponsors." Help?

Posted by Telarock on Sunday, 12.28.08 @ 20:50pm


LOL I personally don't think Pat Benatar should be inducted but she sure doesn't look androgynous to me. And Telarock, maybe "God" isn't religious, so blasphemy wouldn't apply in that case, who knows.

Posted by Keebord on Tuesday, 01.27.09 @ 12:00pm


Keebord, consider that Pat Benatar is a 4-time Grammy winner w/ 6 platinum and 4 gold albums ... and, she was twice (2x) named Rolling Stone mag Favorite Female Vocalist - those are bigtime accolades that cant be denied. Of course, "she" includes her band, notably Neil Giraldo and the bassmen and drummers (there has been some turnover).

As for the gender-confused dufusses, indulge them if you want, but to me they are foolish children who add nothing to the discussion.

Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 02.4.09 @ 09:51am


I think the only thing that will keep Pat Benatar out of the Hall will be the bottleneck in the nomination and induction process (dozens of acts become newly eligible every year; of those and the already-eligible, the committee selects nine and eventually inducts five). But in terms of influence and sheer talent, this woman should have been in long ago.

And one other thing: Several of us armchair critics, above, have listed her "greatest" songs. IMHO, "All Fired Up" deserves inclusion in those.

Posted by Joe on Saturday, 02.14.09 @ 20:23pm


Hands down, Pat Benetar is the Queen of Rock and Roll. It is a travesty that she is not in yet!

Posted by Trish on Wednesday, 02.18.09 @ 07:42am


At the end of the day Pat's music is kinda cheesy and certainly not in the same league as some of the others mentioned. Sure she's had a few hits in the US but so did the Spice Girls but at least their success was worldwide, same as Madonna, Tina, Debbie, Chrissie, Stevie et al. Pat is virtually unknown outside the US, she had a few minor hits in Australia and was more or less a one hit wonder in the UK - she's seen in many was as a novelty act.

I see Pat is touring this summer supporting Blondie, maybe Debbie can give her a few tips on how to be a rock legend.

Posted by Elle on Saturday, 03.7.09 @ 17:28pm


4 grammys you dunce

Posted by golfer11 on Wednesday, 03.11.09 @ 22:12pm


OF COURSE PAT BENETAR SHOULD BE IN THE ROCK HALL OF FAME AS SHOULD LINDA RONDSTADT. BUT IT'S THE BIASED COMMITTEE THAT SEEMS TO CONTINUE TO IGNORE MANY GREAT FEMALE ROCK AND ROLL SINGERS/BANDS. WOMEN SHOULD BE OUTRAGED AT THE ROCK HALL'S OBVIOUS SNUB: NOT ONLY SHOULD PAT BENETAR BE INDUCTED, WHAT ABOUT HEART, THE GO-GO'S, JOAN JETT, CARLY SIMON, CONNIE FRANCIS, LINDA RONDSTADT, DIANA ROSS &TINA TURNER (AS A SOLO PERFORMERS), STEVIE NICKS, LESLIE GORE. WOMEN ARE ALWAYS IGNORED UNLESS OF COURSE IT'S MADONNA...NOW THERE'S A REAL ROCK LEGEND.

Posted by Dan Martel on Saturday, 03.14.09 @ 08:24am


should be in - pop hall of fame = madonna

rock hall of fame - benatar

grammys. top ten hits, great voice - i remember going to clubs and every other girl tried to look like benatar.

hall of fame inductions are getting real boring ZZZZZZZZZZZZ


Posted by golfer on Wednesday, 03.18.09 @ 17:08pm


Pat Benatar's records still hold up after all these years. Heartbreaker, You Better Run, Treat Me Right, Hell is for Children, Promises in the Dark -- all those early cuts still sound fresh and ferocious, and they defined the rock sound of the early 80's and the early MTV era. Of course, all that is forgotten now. All the women who came later, including Madonna, owe a big debt to Pat. She created the model for the rest to imitate.

Posted by Paul Castrataro on Saturday, 03.21.09 @ 23:03pm


This is a no brainer. When one speaks of female rock n roll singers, you have to speak the name PAT BENATAR! How can you not. She is the only female to win 8 Grammys for Female Rock Vocal 8 years in a row. She open the door for future rockers like Joan Jett, Alanis Morrisette, Patty Smythe and others. The RRHF has a BIG error with thier inductees by not giving Pat Benatar and automatic induction. Shame on you!

Posted by AussieMate on Monday, 03.23.09 @ 21:33pm


Yes, Yes, Yes, she should be inducted. She made a very important contribution to rock and roll. She sold millions of rock albums, sold out the stadiums that Journey, The Stones and Bruce Springsteen were selling out at that time, she won 4 Grammys but was nominated for 9 and most of all she confirmed that women were going to be part of rock and roll like it or not and they have been ever since. Like 'AussieMate' said, "It's a no brainer"

Posted by Kenneth Newnum on Tuesday, 03.24.09 @ 06:32am


Thumbs up on Pat Benatar. She and hubby Neil Giraldo along with 2 or 3 others of the band should be put in pronto (its overdue). And not because "she's the first female" ... whatever??? She stands on the merit. Talent, charisma, and a career full of big songs.

Posted by Shooter on Monday, 03.30.09 @ 14:52pm


Never really gave much thought to Pat Benatar, but maybe I should've. She did have a run from 79/80? till the late 80's whereshe was having hits all over the place. She did it hard rock style, then switched off to synths, but didn't seem to lose any audience. If anything she probably gained a few more fans.

We're not talking innovative in a major way, but I imagine she influenced a few acts down the line... maybe bands like Vixen took something from her. Can't say for sure about a Courtney Love... still, she does have some pretty good points.

I guess I'd say yes....

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 03.30.09 @ 16:00pm


Jeez, Cheesecrop, could you be a little more enthusiastic! Your comments convey a lack of passion. We wanna be passionate about our rock stars here. (big smile)

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 04.2.09 @ 10:41am


Jeez, Cheesecrop, could you be a little more enthusiastic! Your comments convey a lack of passion. We wanna be passionate about our rock stars here. (big smile)

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 04.2.09 @ 10:41am
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0 h h !
0 0 h h !
0 0 hhhhh !
0 0 h h !
0 h h !


You want passion... o.k.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 04.2.09 @ 15:13pm


You know that last post was supposed to spell out big on the screen so it looked as though I was saying OOHHH!!! really big.

That sucks, but then again, that's probably my fault.


I guess I'm just not that passionate... now pardon me for a minute whilst I shoo away my many lovers!

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 04.2.09 @ 15:16pm


Well that's very nice to know Robb. And last I knew she still is a woman. Was there ever some doubt?!! (smile)

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 11.27.08 @ 19:24pm

Apparently, according to some trolling douche named Freeze/zygote, there was.

But my original quote said "all woman" which is a colloquial phrase not to be taken literally. And yet...ya did. (smile)

Posted by Robb on Thursday, 04.2.09 @ 22:32pm


Robb, I had to go back and look at yor post.
"She was clearly not androgynous: she was a rocker, but definitely all woman."
I was referring to yor use of past tense. Pat is still all woman! But, obviously you are not amongst the gender recognition challenged.

Cheesecrop, dude, you are a trip! Too bad yor little "0 0 hhhhh !" artpiece didnt space out right. Try it again on Madonna's page, since everyone knows you feel for her passionately. (yuk)

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 04.3.09 @ 13:29pm


Too bad yor little "0 0 hhhhh !" artpiece didnt space out right. Try it again on Madonna's page, since everyone knows you feel for her passionately. (yuk)



Posted by Telarock on Friday, 04.3.09 @ 13:29pm
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Indeed. I was regrettably prevented from unleashing my inner Picasso upon the board. Of course we are all aware of what Madge does to me. That little Heartbreaker. We belong together, and it is that all consuming knowledge that, in fact, love is a battlefield, that unleashes said inner-Picasso. For this artist is driven by a crime of passion for the mighty dance diva. It will bloom anew again one day, and all will see... that together... Madonna & I are Invincible!









What drivel...

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 04.3.09 @ 18:09pm


Cheesecrop, I see only a blank canvass? But I suppose you are just kidding about Madonna. I do think it might be interesting to see how Picasso would have painted Madonna.

Posted by Cokey on Wednesday, 04.8.09 @ 14:16pm


Picasso DID paint Madonna.

Well, Madonna Mother of Jesus the Blessed Virgin Mary, but still.

Posted by MBI on Wednesday, 04.8.09 @ 16:00pm


Cheesecrop, I see only a blank canvass?

Posted by Cokey on Wednesday, 04.8.09 @ 14:16pm
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Indeed. Those X's & O's represent the last vestiges of a true artistic genius.

When I was in high school I took a computer class that taught Pascal, if you can believe how far back that's going. One of our assignments required us to animate a drawing, and I tried to do a stickman waving to whomever was watching. I messed up on the coordinates and accidentally detached his arm during the waving process. It was quite surrealistic - at least I tried to pass it off that way. I'd like to believe I passed it off that way - I managed a "D" & not an "F".

In honor of you, Cokey, once this page allows for this kind of artistry to flow, I will draw a picture of Madonna for you. She'll be holding a Coke, and at the bottom I'll add the tag line "Have A Coke & a Smile".


Just promise you won't give me a "D".

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 04.8.09 @ 18:14pm


Okay Cheesecrop, it will be an honor to be immortalized in that way along with Madonna. (smile) And I promise not to give you a D.

Posted by Cokey on Thursday, 04.9.09 @ 14:56pm


Pat B. is underrated by many- but, do people really need to bring up other acts to make a point about someone they believe should be in? No. Remember, too- it's not *just* rock-and-roll music and artists that the HOF recognizes, after all.

Pat remains one of my favorite female acts of all time. Always loved her attitude, too. But, I can see why, perhaps, the committee might not give nominate her. She may be classified with acts like Journey, Foreigner, Bon Jovi, etc., whose work wasn't the most revered.

Posted by JR on Monday, 04.27.09 @ 22:13pm


JR your comment that Benatars work isnt revered is bogus. Consider this:

"Pat Benatar is a 4-time Grammy winner w/ 6 platinum and 4 gold albums ... and, she was twice (2x) named Rolling Stone mag Favorite Female Vocalist" Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 02.4.09 @ 09:51am

I do agree Pat Benatar doesnt need to compete with Madonna, very dissimilar artists. But it is okay to rate her among artists of her genre.

Posted by Worm on Monday, 04.27.09 @ 23:20pm


Pat Benatar bitch slaps hell outta any other lady rockers.

Posted by deemand on Tuesday, 06.2.09 @ 09:48am


As long as Suzi Quatro isn't in, Pat Benatar has no bizness being in ayther

Posted by Gonlan on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 12:25pm


Gonlan learn to spell you illiterate

Posted by Popcorn on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 13:43pm


Hey Popcorn WHY DONT YOU SHUT UP YOU PIECE OF SHIT

MIND YOUR OWN BIZNESS IDIOT

Posted by Gonlan on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 13:49pm


I was just pointing out that when a dumbass like yourself goes on the computer you should spell correctly

Posted by Popcorn on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 13:52pm


How dare you insult SUZI QUATRO do you think ur somekind of a comedian is that it "popcorn"

All comedians are assholes popcorn

NOW PISS OFF

Posted by Gonlan on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 13:54pm


P.S. IDIOT

Posted by Gonlan on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 13:56pm


Who said anything about Suzi Quatro or comedy dumbass

Do you have tourettes or what?

Posted by Popcorn on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 14:01pm


YOU ARE AN IN BRED RED NECK POPCORN

SCREW OFF

Posted by Gonlan on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 14:05pm


This whole Popcorn/Gonlan arguement is way too entertaining

Posted by Keebord on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 14:10pm


Hey Keebord
Popcorn (IN BRED RED NECK) is the one at fault here NOT ME

He started it the GIANT PRICK

CAN'T EVEN MIND HIS OWN BIZNESS


HE'S PROBS THE SAME IDIOT WHO JUST VOTED YES FOR ASHLEE SIMPSON

Posted by Gonlan on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 14:16pm


You have some serious issues Gonlan. I didn't vote "yes" for Ashlee Shrimpson and I think you would be doing everyone a favor if you'd shut up

Posted by Popcorn on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 14:19pm


Popcorn...stick around, there are some of us who like to have learned and rational conversations...plus the fact we probably wouldn't say anything foul about someone unless we were STANDING IN FRONT OF HIM....

'Nuff Said...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 14:29pm


Pat Benatar most definately belongs in the hall. One of the very few female artists who was keeping true to rock music in a time when most women were doing safe bubblegum music. She has multiple grammys, 19 top 40 singles, still gets radio play, has multi-platinum albums, and was highly influencial in the '80s. Would there be female rock acts today without Pat? Hell, even Scott Ian(Anthrax), Lemmy, the Donnas, etc. admit that Pat is a great artist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4fnTWALZOM

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 15:11pm


Thanks Dude Man for putting things back on topic

Posted by Popcorn on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 15:50pm


No problem at all.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 16:44pm


Eligible bands and solo artists that should be inducted:
Def Leppard The E- Street Band
Bon Jovi Red Hot Chili Peppers
Iron Butterfly Electric Light Orchestra(ELO)
Scorpions Cheap Trick
Bad Brains Dead Kennedys
Iron Maiden Beastie Bota
Motley Crue Asia
Berlin Duran Duran
David Lee Roth Sammy Hagar
Robert Plant Jimmy Page
Ringo Star Stevie Ray Vaughn
Alice Cooper Rick James
Survivor Pat Benatar
Twisted Sister Weird Al Yankovic
Bryan Adams The B-52s
K.C. and the Sunshine Band
Gary Numan The Go-Gos
The Bangels Blue Oyster Cult
Steppenwolf Danzig
Wolfmother The Cars

NonEligible Artists that should be inducted:
Guns 'n' Roses Nirvana
Green Day Foo Fighters
Alice in Chains Train
Buckethead Reverand Horton Head

If I left anyone out of this list(which I probably did),please comment.

Posted by Brendan Sala on Saturday, 08.15.09 @ 11:19am


Good grief, this guy's got the potential to be worse than Roy. Roy at least

1) uses commas
2) spells names correctly
3) posts in more appropriate threads (usually)

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 08.15.09 @ 11:36am


Whoever thinks Pat Benatar is man has serious issues

Posted by Orange on Tuesday, 09.1.09 @ 05:17am


blondie - in , benetar out ??? don t get it - who votes ?? no offense to blondie fans but in am thinking heart and benetar - on record sales,influence, talent ... whatever .....should also get in

Posted by golfer11 on Saturday, 09.19.09 @ 13:43pm


As far as I'm concerned Pat Benatar is the Queen of the 80's and belongs in the Hall of Fame without question.

Posted by Jay on Friday, 01.29.10 @ 22:38pm


"Hell, even Scott Ian(Anthrax), Lemmy, the Donnas, etc. admit that Pat is a great artist."
Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 06.14.09 @ 15:11pm

She wasn't really innovative, but she did have some great songs, and her voice is excellent. She kind of did fly the flag for female rockers (along with Joan Jett; Scoot Ian, Lemmy and the Donnas remembered her as well), so I certainly wouldn't firebomb the hall if she was inducted.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 02.16.10 @ 15:52pm




benetar was the poster girl for a decade.

her music was everywhere. it really shortsighted not to consider
benetar.

Posted by golfer11 on Saturday, 02.20.10 @ 08:00am


Not a big fan of hers but she should of gotten in way before Madonna and a few others She should get IN...

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 02.20.10 @ 09:49am


I can't believe that gutter slut, lip-syncing Madonna is in the Hall of Fame and the uber talented Pat Benatar isn't? What a load of crap that is. It just goes to show you how full of shit the academy is.

Posted by Jeff L on Tuesday, 03.2.10 @ 09:50am


Jeff, we've already explained this with other people. Not really a fan of Madonna, but she's in because she was popular and has a massive influence on pop music (more than Pet Benatar, who is a much better singer.)

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 03.2.10 @ 16:26pm


sam

you are probaby not old enough to judge benetars influence in her time - it was comparable to madonna.

u couldn t go to a club where every girl looked and danced like benetar. her music itself were on every radio station am and fm, played at every club. her concerts sold out, she was copied, not too mention her video were one of the first on mtv

can t compare talent (to each his own) but influence is very similar - not sure media (mtv generation) was as prevalent in society as it is now. but benetar and madonna were similiar in many ways .


spell check later ....

Posted by golfer11 on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 06:15am


"you are probaby not old enough to judge benetars influence in her time - it was comparable to madonna." Correct. I'm 20, so I missed it. When we talk about influence, we talk about other artists following your style, or using what you're doing as inspiration for what you're doing. Or discovering you and thinking "That's who I want to be" or "That's what I want to be doing." Influence is tough to judge, but it has to do with other artists.

"u couldn t go to a club where every girl looked and danced like benetar. her music itself were on every radio station am and fm, played at every club. her concerts sold out, she was copied, not too mention her video were one of the first on mtv" There you go. Since she was popular I'm sure she did inspire other artists. If she was one of the first artists on MTV that certainly counts for something.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 03.6.10 @ 15:06pm


I'm almost 39 years old and have been following Benatar since I was 10. Like others, I still love to see her in concert. She actually still performs LIVE and is still fantastic! With all the influence she has had over music since 1979, how can she not be inducted? I have serious doubts over the Hall of Fame's credibility if she is not inducted. This is a mistake & bad judgement that I can't believe the powers-that-be would want to make. Above everything else, just LISTEN to her history, clearly Pat deserves it.

Posted by Becky on Monday, 04.5.10 @ 18:44pm


"Correct. I'm 20, so I missed it. When we talk about influence, we talk about other artists following your style, or using what you're doing as inspiration for what you're doing. Or discovering you and thinking "That's who I want to be" or "That's what I want to be doing." Influence is tough to judge, but it has to do with other artists."--Sam

True, but if you were around in the 80s, you would of realized the scope of her influence. There were many Pat Benatar wannabes that came and went who tried to imitate her singing style: Vixen, Tane Cain, Tiffany, Alannah Myles, Berlin, Quarterflash, Patty Smyth (of Scandal), etc. You can even see some of her influences in artists today like Pink, Kelly Clarkson, Christina Aguilera, and Lisa Marie Presley. Not only was she influential and girls wanted to be her (check out the movie FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH), she also challenged sexism in the music industry by standing up to chauvinistic record company execs (which may hurt her chances, you know, the whole burning bridges thing).

Her popularity waned when she focused on being less rock and tried to be experimental with her sound. She also got married and had children and put her career on the back burner. Lastly, Madonna came along and kind of made the whole rocker chick concept obsolete.

Posted by Ken on Saturday, 04.10.10 @ 15:20pm


"True, but if you were around in the 80s, you would of realized the scope of her influence. There were many Pat Benatar wannabes that came and went who tried to imitate her singing style: Vixen, Tane Cain, Tiffany, Alannah Myles, Berlin, Quarterflash, Patty Smyth (of Scandal), etc. You can even see some of her influences in artists today like Pink, Kelly Clarkson, Christina Aguilera, and Lisa Marie Presley." - Ken

Good to talk to you again. Yeah, the high notes in Vixen's one hit sound quite similar to PB's high notes (I have a Best of at home, Pat has a hell of a voice.) I believe you certainly could draw a line between her and Kelly Clarkson. Aguilera seems to be more Madonna influenced, as she's much more glam. Pink? Maybe. I haven't listened to Alannah Myles beyond "Black Velvet", and haven't listened to the rest of those names. Not really innovative, but you could say she perpetuated the genre by having a steady, rocking female presence. I'll go confirm those artists are influenced by her, but it certainly won't bother me if she's inducted. Not before The Runaways and Heart, though.

"she also challenged sexism in the music industry by standing up to chauvinistic record company execs (which may hurt her chances, you know, the whole burning bridges thing)." I have no idea. Are you saying some industry people tried to hit on her or have her be a pin-up? Some people on here are saying that Rolling Stone loves her.

"Her popularity waned when she focused on being less rock and tried to be experimental with her sound. She also got married and had children and put her career on the back burner. Lastly, Madonna came along and kind of made the whole rocker chick concept obsolete." Yep, that was touched on during VH1's Greatest Hard Rock Songs thing. She had two daughters, and these days mostly tours with her husband on guitar. She doesn't record much now. She says: "I got to do the one thing I loved for a really long time. I don't need any more money, I don't need any more fame, I don't need any more Grammy's, the only reason I'm still doing this is because I have fun." Yeah, she got a bit poppy, but "Love Is A Battlefield" is fantastic (and also proves the versatility of Chinn and Chapman, since those guys wrote "Ballroom Blitz."

Posted by Sam on Monday, 04.12.10 @ 17:05pm


Actually, I think Lisa Marie Presley's biggest influence was probably, I don't know...her DAD????

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 04.12.10 @ 19:34pm


Possibly, Gitar, possibly. I'd still accept Benatar's induction.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 04.13.10 @ 17:05pm


"I have no idea. Are you saying some industry people tried to hit on her or have her be a pin-up? Some people on here are saying that Rolling Stone loves her."

Pat was always upfront and vocal about the way her record company wanted to present her. She was never comfortable with the tough chick, spandex wearing look, but that's how Chrysalis at the time wanted her to look, like this sexed-up vamp. In her own words, she stood up to her record company head, which eventually caused some friction, and eventually caused her to leave the label. She even wrote the song "Sex as A Weapon" about sexism in the entertainment industry.

"Aguilera seems to be more Madonna influenced, as she's much more glam."

Eh, if you're talking image wise, maybe, but if you break it down to the actual music, her singing is more on the lines of Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey, but when she did the song "Fighter," that was definitely a rock vocal from the pages of Pat Benatar.

"Some people on here are saying that Rolling Stone loves her."

Actually Rolling Stone hated her. They never gave any of her albums a good review.

"Good to talk to you again."

You must have me mixed up with someone else named Ken. I've only started posting on here recently.

"Actually, I think Lisa Marie Presley's biggest influence was probably, I don't know...her DAD????"

I remember a VH1 Divas Live show where Lisa said she liked the music of PB, and even sang with Pat on the song "Heartbreaker," where Pat blew her out of the water.

Posted by Ken on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:24pm


Sorry. Correction: She did NOT write "Sex As A Weapon." The music video itself was poking fun at the entertainment industry.

Posted by Ken on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:33pm


"Not before The Runaways and Heart, though."

Oh, I totally agree. I love Heart, more so than I do Pat, and I've always been a fan of Joan Jett, so whether she get inducted with the Runaways or with the Blackhearts is fine by me. I'm not going to lose any sleep if Pat never does, but I also don't think she's unworthy of being inducted.

Funny that you mention Heart. They were rocking in the 70s and early 80s, and even though they had a few hits during that time, they were really never a commercial top 40 band back then. After they were dropped by Epic in the early 80s, they signed with Capitol Records, changed their image, which became part Madonna, part Pat, and developed a more commercial sound. They always wrote their own songs, but by the time BAD ANIMALS was released, they were recording songs by Billy Steinberg, Tom Kelly and Holly Knight, all whom had previously written songs for Pat. "There's the Girl," "Who Will Yu an underrated Heart song with lead vocals by Nancy Wilson, as well as "Alone" or "Who Will You Run To," could have easily been a Pat Benatar song.

Not saying that Heart was trying to copy Pat, but there was definitely some of her influence in them at the time, just like she was definitely influenced by a lot of Heart's earlier material.

Posted by Ken on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 14:57pm


"Eh, if you're talking image wise, maybe, but if you break it down to the actual music, her singing is more on the lines of Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey, but when she did the song "Fighter," that was definitely a rock vocal from the pages of Pat Benatar." I haven't listened to that song.

"Actually Rolling Stone hated her. They never gave any of her albums a good review." Damn it. I was going to go and confirm that, but the site's under maintenance. I just said it because someone here said she won their "Female of the Year" award twice. Okay, let's try and get an idea of it. For the first two albums, it says their reviews were mixed (four, then four and a half stars from All-Music Guide.) Third album: Two stars, it says. More later.

"Oh, I totally agree. I love Heart, more so than I do Pat, and I've always been a fan of Joan Jett, so whether she get inducted with the Runaways or with the Blackhearts is fine by me. I'm not going to lose any sleep if Pat never does, but I also don't think she's unworthy of being inducted." I'd choose The Runaways, easily.

There are some artists who I'm stunned are not in yet (Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, Joy Division), and some who I don't think are essential but it certainly wouldn't be out of the question to induct them. Pat falls into the latter category.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 18:57pm


This should help discussing Pat's induction:

"Pat Benatar - Rock's best selling woman"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9TBLai3K9c

"VH1 Behind The Music: PAT BENATAR"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhA9lNQnk0

Posted by Sebastian on Tuesday, 05.25.10 @ 05:16am


Ineligible band that should be inducted? Brendan, you picked Greenday? Ok, you wanna tell how punk revivalists, qualify as influential artists? There were a lot of other punk revivalists before and in their time. Heard The Exploited, for example? I can see how they would be to kids who missed it the first time around, but I think that still doesn't mean anything. They certainly added nothing new and Pat Benatar was hardly anything special either. Sure, she was a decent female vocalist who could "hit the notes", and had some hits, big f'n deal. The music was just cheezy poppy hard rock and the occasional nod to Blondie. ("We Live For Love", ring a bell?) with her wailing in that angsty,emotional sappy tone,all over the place and the usual naive rock fans, think they are listening to high art, just because she was "classically trained" and a "strong woman".She made twits like Amy Lee, and the rest of those sappy chicks possible.Nothing against female vocalists, I've spent my share of listening to Patsy Cline, and Billy Holiday, and Peggy Lee, so I'm no music chauvinist. I also dig Jarboe, and Siouxsie too. Jarboe, of SWANS, who I think is a fine vocalist as well as classically trained, I might add. Maybe she oughta be in there. Oh, that's right she isn't in the top 40. Amy and her Evanuisance is though. The kids love her.I can bet she's been selected. Yikes.

Posted by Don on Thursday, 06.17.10 @ 14:50pm


blah blah blah


benetar should be in - although it is cooler to induct people only 5 percent of the world heard of.

Posted by golfer on Saturday, 07.24.10 @ 16:00pm


Although I disagree with Don's statement I can see where he's coming from, even though he contradicted himself. Thanks for giving Siouxsie a shout-out though.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 07.26.10 @ 21:21pm


pat benatar should be in no problem, 4 grammies, nominated for eight, hir first 5 albums were platinum, she opened the door for women to be rocknroll starz the right to be accepted, dealt a blow to record execs, djays and people who harrassed her only because she was a woman fronting a great rock band the second video ever on mtv , movie sountracks, many hits and outstanding energetic concerts i just attened one her 30th annivisary tour still rockin, and don,t leave out her husband, producer, writer and great guitar player neil giraldo. when i see the bee gees and abba who sang pop not rock in the hall it makes me laugh, how bout 10,000 maniacs how many albums do they have that are platinum? and the knack 2 albums 2 top 100 hits i smell corruption or lunacy put her in and stop the madness!

Posted by thomas masterson on Saturday, 09.4.10 @ 23:04pm


The Knack aren't in the Hall, nor will they be for a long time (if ever), nor should they be (I like "My Sharona" though.) Ditto for 10,000 Maniacs, though their cover of "Because the Night" was wonderful. The way I'm leaning with Pat is the same: Induct, but after others.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 09.14.10 @ 14:29pm


Once again, rock is indefinable these days.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 09.14.10 @ 14:30pm


Would love to see Pat get in- she and her music have not had loads of acclaim. But, there are some in the HOF who haven't, either, so one can never rule it out.

While I love Pat Benatar and her music, she had nowhere near the impact that Madonna has had. Pat was/is a tough cookie, and helped pave the way for strong female acts, but what Madonna did in her work in terms of gender/racial/religious/sexual/social mores is incomparable to anyone else, and that's part of what has given her the reverence and importance that she enjoys (along with the fine music).

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 09.14.10 @ 16:33pm


It's a Disgrace why Pat has not been inducted into the Hall of Fame, but she has not even been nominated!! Pat continues to tour every year since 1995. Her voice is stellar and unlike no other!! The people voting should see her on tour and man, they would be ashamed of themselves for not voting her in. She can still sing the roof off of any venue!!... Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Voting Committee.... WAKE THE FRIG UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Ray on Sunday, 11.28.10 @ 10:09am


She is amazing and can kick ass at singing!

Posted by Me on Tuesday, 12.28.10 @ 16:10pm


wow madonna got in before Pat Benatar..that is messed up..

Pat Benatar should already been in the hall of fame....

are we waiting for Lady Gaga to get in before Pat???

what is taking so long to recognize Pat...great work through her time....

Posted by mitch on Friday, 07.15.11 @ 12:49pm


You had to have lived these days to see the influence that she had on many people then and many singers now.

Posted by jaime on Saturday, 08.13.11 @ 05:02am


Whoever is in charge of making the decisions of who gets inducted in to the Rock Hall of Fame is obviously NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH in holding that job!!! Pat Benatar belongs inducted in to the Rock Hall of Fame WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!! She is not just the BEST FEMALE ROCK SINGER. She is the QUEEN OF ROCK to me as well as thousands upon thousands of other fans!!!

Posted by Paula on Sunday, 09.25.11 @ 04:11am


I can't believe another year and Pat Benatar isn't even nominated. In the words of Eddie Trunk F U rock n roll hall of fame! He said that when Alice Cooper was on That metal show, and surprisingly enough they put him through! Billboard hails her best selling female rock vocalist, she has won four grammy's, was the first female artist to have a video on mtv and the second overall video played. I hope Heart makes it this year!

Posted by Marc on Friday, 10.28.11 @ 00:23am


Heart is Led Zeppelin with breasts!

- Pat Benatar

I'm like Marie Osmond compared to Joan Jett.

- Pat Benatar

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.28.11 @ 05:05am


This is how the Rock Hall loses credibility. How much more talent or sucess does an artist have to have than Pat Benetar or Lou Gramm. She had an amazing voice, loaded with power and range. Lets be honest, she had more talent in her pinky than Madonna, Debra Harry, Chrissie Hynde, etc. Great songs with passion and attitude. Come on, listen to the voice.

Posted by Eddie Dobzanski on Monday, 11.7.11 @ 19:55pm


Had to revisit this site after hearing Fire and Ice on the radio today. Think back to the late 70s and early 80s. What female singers were influential in rock? Joplin and Slick were over. We had Stevie Nicks and the Wilson sisters, all 3 very talented and deserving of the Hall in my educated opinion. Then Pat Benetar arrives and immediately you hear a powerful voice with great range in a straight ahead rock style. I dont know what male I would equate her voice with, maybe Lou Gramm or Dio. This is such a no brainer.

Posted by Eddie Dobzanski on Friday, 12.2.11 @ 19:14pm


Benatar ROCKS! She should be in!

Posted by Darrell Russ on Monday, 12.5.11 @ 11:08am


Pat Benatar, along with Debbie Harry, the Runaways, and Heart, helped pioneer the assertive, tough female rocker style that was so prevalent from 1976 and 1984. Having recently watched the VH1 Behind the Music special on Pat, I NOW have an even greater appreciation of her music and talent. Her voice is just out of this world. Between Benatar's magnificent voice, importance in the history of female rock 'n' roll, and wide repertoire of musical styles (i.e., arena rock, blues, show tunes, adult contemporary, etc.), she is more than deserving of an induction, something she should have gotten at least 2 years ago.

Posted by Zach on Monday, 12.19.11 @ 11:00am


"Her voice is just out of this world"

Interesting. I happen to think she sounds like a banshee, but that's just me. (Well, me and some troll(s) towards the top of the page).

Anyway, personal opinions aside, I agree she should probably be in the Hall.. not before the Runaways or Heart though. (and I'm not a fan of the latter).

Now, how about Suzi Quatro? I see you didn't mention her. I'd like to see her get in the Hall sometime soon. Personally, I don't see why they were so quick on Patti Smith and have been ignoring Suzi Quatro.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 12.19.11 @ 11:17am


"I don't see why they were so quick on Patti Smith and have been ignoring Suzi Quatro."

Actually, ignore the "quick" part, I'm aware it took her seven nominations...

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Monday, 12.19.11 @ 11:26am


I think Benatar has a better case than the Runaways. She was a big commercial success in the early 80s. Things that weigh against her are that she did not write any of her main hits. Also her music was basic FM friendly rock. And some of her commercial success can be attributed to the early days of MTV. ("Love Is A Battlefield" as Exhibit A). But her induction is at least defensible.

I have said before that I didn't think Patti Smith deserved induction, and the fact that she was inducted individually without the other members of the Patti Smith Group who co-wrote her songs suggests that even the Hall voters saw a problem. But you could argue that she was an important cog in the development of punk rock. Realistically not as important as always claimed, but there you go. (And it does create a precedent for Joan Jett to be inducted individually).

The problem with Quatro is that she had very limited chart success in the US especially, with the exception of "Stumblin' In" in 1978. Even her main commercial success in the UK and Australia was really limited to one year 73/74. And her entire career is based on the songwriting team of Chinn/Chapman. Add to that limited influence and no claim to musical innovation and it's not hard to understand why she hasn't been inducted. Plus her image was not very challenging (Happy Days!). But if the Hall goes full bore on the whole "Women in Rock" angle, then maybe.


Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 12.20.11 @ 01:22am


For those of you who know it all and don't want Pat Benatar in the HofF, you cannot deny her awards and stats, but I'll do you one better. I have seen Pat in concert 5 times. She is incredible. She keep the audience fixated. I was bummed when it was over, only to run to the next. You can't deny her stats but moreover, unless you witness the phenomena yourself, then you really heed to shut up. she's undeniably one of the most naturally gifted ladies now and always. Rock on, Pat, for those of us who truly love you.

Posted by charmedjannie on Thursday, 12.29.11 @ 23:09pm


This is a no-brainer. The queen of rock or course needs to be in the RRHOF

Posted by Person on Thursday, 01.5.12 @ 18:31pm


"Interesting. I happen to think she sounds like a banshee, but that's just me. (Well, me and some troll(s) towards the top of the page)."

Not a problem, Tahvo. It's only fair that you get to rag on Pat Benatar (one of my favorites) after I trashed Creedence Clearwater Revival (one of your favorites). I'll agree though that her voice got a bit too high on some songs (witness Promises in the Dark for evidence of this). No offense taken on your different views, though. You and I agree on enough musically that I couldn't possibly get hostile with you.

What makes Pat's vocals so special is that she matched the lyrics of a given song with an appropriate tone. She could sing with seductiveness (Rated X), heartbreak (Hell is for Children), rage (No You Don't), softness (We Belong), confusion (Anxiety), empowerment (Invincible), and passion (We Live for Love). My main criteria for evaluating a performer's vocal abilities is the number of different emotions he/she can convey. In that regard, Pat Benatar ranks at the top for me.

I'm glad you brought up Suzi Quatro. I don't have much experience with listening to her music, but based on the little I have heard, I can see making a case for her inclusion. She did influence Joan Jett in terms of look and personality. That should count for something, considering Jett was nominated (but sadly not inducted) for this year's class.

As you can tell, I am particularly fond of the assertive, tough female rock 'n roll singers and bands that made their mark between 1973 and 1984 (just before Madonna and her ilk exploded on the scene). It was easily the best time for women in rock 'n roll, as they finally got the chance to prove they could rock as hard and live as hard as the men. Unfortunately, the He-Man Woman Haters Club that comprises the nomination board has snubbed the true female rockers since the beginning. Sure, they'll occasionally throw a bone to a group like Blondie (long overdue, I might add), but most of the biggies (i.e. the Runaways, Heart, Pat Benatar, Suzi Quatro, etc.) have yet to be inducted. Meanwhile, folk sissies like Joni Mitchell (nothing rock 'n roll about her) are welcomed with open arms. I couldn't write comedy material as funny as that.

Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 01.24.12 @ 13:42pm


The RORHF or more particularly Rolling Stone magazine definitely has it's preferred idea of a female performer. Not too glamorous. Not too pretty. Non-sexual. Almost masculine. Outside of a mega star like Madonna it's one of the more obvious ideological trends whenever they do a best of list. I already stated my opinion about Benatar and the others on this thread, but that's something I've always noticed.

Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 01.24.12 @ 14:28pm


Benatar had two RIAA-certified Multi-Platinum albums, five RIAA-certified Platinum albums, three RIAA-certified Gold albums and 19 Top 40 singles.

4 grammies + 2 nominations.

>Interesting. I happen to think she sounds like a banshee, but that's just me.

Yeah... that's just you :)

Posted by Kevin on Saturday, 04.14.12 @ 02:01am


Are you kidding me??? There are so many artists that don't belong or are suspect, but to not put PB in the all is down right wrong. I was just listening to one of her songs and wondered if she had been inducted. 8yrs of elibility and never been considered, the voters need to go back and listen to her music again.

Posted by Big Daddy on Thursday, 07.19.12 @ 21:35pm


Wow someone named Tahvo thinks she sounds like a banshee. A opera quality voice with all the range and plenty of attitude. This is. Such.an easy call. Way too much talent and. Success. To not be in.

Posted by warrior on Friday, 11.16.12 @ 01:39am


Now that I think about it, "banshee" is a bit of a wrong word, anyway that's subjectivity for you!

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 11.16.12 @ 04:24am


On second thought, she does sound great on "Love is a Battlefield" and "Heartbreaker" and a few other songs, I guess I just don't like "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" which I've always found annoying for some reason.

If you want to put her in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I certainly won't object.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 11.16.12 @ 04:48am


How is Pat Benatar not a member of the RARHOF. More importantly, how did Madonna get in before her. Nobody was a trend sette during the late 70's era more than Pat and Debbie Harry. I surely hope the Hall considers her next year

Posted by diane barany on Wednesday, 12.12.12 @ 08:43am


In 1979 while watching American Bandstand at the age of 12, I witnessed Pat Benatar for the first time performing Heartbreaker and my days as a headbanger officially began! Thanks to her I am now a huge rock fan and I LOVE the female voice! She was a sexy feminist (imagine that) with that phenomenal set of pipes all packed inside of a pint-sized frame. she conquered the man's world of rock and roll surpassing her male contemporaries and kicking the door down for women in rock and in the music industry overall! if there hadn't been a Benatar, there would never have been a Madonna or any that followed! she is the most successful female rock vocalist of all time and, according to Rolling Stone, she "defined what a female rock chick was to look, act and sound like"! Pat Benatar set the bar so high that no one has ever come close to touching it! so, not only should she have been inducted into the hall of fame long ago, but she should be given special honors for trail-blazing a path that all female musicians have followed! All hail the Queen, PAT BENATAR! Amen!!!

Posted by Jody Howe on Thursday, 04.18.13 @ 13:22pm


Can't believe Pat Benatar is not in the Rock Roll Hall of Fame. Just Saying

4 time Grammy winner
14 top 20 Singles
2nd Video ever on MTV

Hit songs that include
"I Need a Lover"
"Heartbreaker"
"You Better Run"
"Hit Me with Your Best Shot"
"Hell Is for Children"
"Fire and Ice"
"Promises in the Dark"
"Shadows of the Night"
"Love Is a Battlefield"
"We Belong"
"Invincible"
"Sex as a Weapon"
"All Fired Up"

Posted by Mark on Thursday, 08.22.13 @ 16:04pm


Pat Benatar deserves RRHOF induction. I love when she sings Fire & Ice. The Pat Benatar 4 octave+ voice just kills that song.Always feel like saluting her after it's over.

Definitely prefer Pat's rocking early 80's stuff compared to the Top 40 later style. Shadows of the Night was very powerful & I loved the video for it.Like World War II with the war uniforms & planes.

I admire Pat for taking the women's mantle as a rock singer & not hiding in the shadows. She took on issues many would shy away from especially in relationships. Her songs were very empowering for women & she influenced many of the female singers who arrived later.

Honestly,I always thought Pat was beautiful.Very sexy too.The entire package. Pat would blow away many of the so called great vocalists today. Taylor Swift,Miley Cyrus are good but don't have Pat's power.

She had several hits including:We Belong,Love Is A Battlefield,Heartbreaker,You Better Run,Fire & Ice,Shadows of the Night. Commercial success as well. I say PAT BENATAR RRHOF
very soon. KING

Posted by KING on Wednesday, 01.29.14 @ 02:28am


Pat Benatar has been named by Billboard to be the most successful female rock artist of all time! Rolling Stone states that she defined what a rock chick was to look, act and sound like! She was the first woman to sell out Madison Square Garden. Every female artist in popular music owe her a debt of gratitude for kicking down barriers in the industry they now enjoy success in. Benatar's mezzo soprano powerhouse vocals are unmatched! She has 19 top 20 hits! She dominated the Rock scene in a time when the industry was dominated by men. Enuff said!!!

Posted by Jody Howe on Wednesday, 02.12.14 @ 17:00pm


One of the best arguments I've heard for any artist Jody. Pat Benatar should be in RRHOF as an excellent artist & performer. Like when Pat allows the full range of her voice to be utilized. Just a fantastic singer & talent. RRHOF in 2016 seems about right. KING

Posted by KING on Saturday, 04.19.14 @ 17:24pm


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