Chicago

Rock & Roll Hall of Famer

Category: Performer

Inducted in: 2016

Inducted by: Rob Thomas

Nominated in: 2016

First Eligible: 1995 Ceremony

Inducted Members: Peter Cetera, Terry Kath, Robert Lamm, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine


Inducted into Rock Hall Revisited in 2006 (ranked #191) .


Essential Albums (?)WikipediaAmazon MP3Amazon CD
Chicago Transit Authority (1969)
Chicago (II) (1970)
Chicago (V) (1973)

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Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? (1969)
Beginnings (1969)
25 Or 6 To 4 (1970)
Colour My World (1970)
Saturday In The Park (1972)
Feelin' Stronger Every Day (1973)
If You Leave Me Now (1976)
Baby, What A Big Surprise (1977)

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Is there anyone who deserves it more than these guys? Come on... they're not even on the future possible list for any year.

Posted by Will on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 04:52am


Chicago is #1 on my poll at:
http://www.rateitall.com/t-2529-deserving-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.aspx
It seems to me they should have a higher Induction Chance % here.

Posted by Garrett on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 15:09pm


Chicago should already be inducted. This just goes to show the extreme bias, as well a a lack of knowledge of one of the best groups to ever be formed. Terry Kath, Peter Cetera, Robert Lamm and the rest of the group deserve this honor more than most. Pity.

Posted by Guitar Man on Sunday, 11.5.06 @ 17:27pm


Come on! Grandmaster Flash better than Chicago??? Pull your head out! Put Chicago in the Hall!

Posted by Jeff on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 05:42am


Chicago will never be inducted because of Jann Wenner, and his personal vendeta from years ago. This is just one reason of many, why the Hall is such a joke

Posted by Mark on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 06:05am


Jann Wenner will never allow them in. His school yard grudge from years ago will prevent them from getting in.

Even if they are ever nominated, 5 bucks says they decline.

Posted by Kathryn on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 06:08am


2 words will keep Chicago out of The Hall of Shame. Jann Wenner. Jann and his temper tantrum over an interview, will keep one of the most deserving bands of all time out.

Hey Jann, get over it!

Posted by Susan on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 06:10am


The unfathomable exclusion of Chicago from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a damning blight upon the entire system. There is no intelligent reason to not induct them. The HOF is a sham without them.

Posted by Mark L Bakke on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 13:41pm


The HoF is a sham regardless of what it does or does not have.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 13:53pm


Chicago not being in the R&R Hall is a crying shame, there is NO way they will attend any ceremony if they ever due get inducted. They were eligible first back in 1994, to not have them in is RIDICULOUS. In my opinion they are the worst snub for a group, as far as solo artists go you tell me how Neil Diamond isn't in the Hall. If I was running the show at the Hall I would immediately induct those two artists along with Kiss, Alice Cooper, Rush, Def Leppard, Yes and Mellencamp everyone else has no HUGE beef. Those artists DO!

Posted by Pete on Friday, 01.12.07 @ 11:04am


Chicago should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. One of the first bands to use horns extensively, has had a top forty album in at least 5 different decades, ranked #2 behind the beach boys as the top american band of all time.

But Chicago will not get in as long as Jann Wenner is there with the Rock and Roll committee

Posted by Mary on Tuesday, 01.30.07 @ 20:46pm


I agree with you guys that Chicago should be in the Hall. But Flash and the Five finally got their due as pioneers of Rap/Hip-Hop music. I mean come on!!!! They had to put some Rap/Hip-Hop musicians in the Rock Hall sooner or later!!! Don't you guys think so ??? Personally I think the only other Rap group that should go in the Hall is Run-DMC.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Wednesday, 01.31.07 @ 17:39pm


The body of work Chicago did for rock n roll is tremedous, and they damn straight deserve to be in the rock n roll "hall". Deep Purple and The Moody Blues also deserve to be there. What's up with the voting process, who are these people?

Posted by moomootay on Saturday, 02.10.07 @ 05:03am


The "HOF" is a joke. Just look at "most" of people already in it. Why don't you put the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync in. After all, you already have no credibility.

Posted by Thomas on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 10:16am


No Moody Blues, no Yes, no Chicago, no ELP, no Rush, no Tull, no Purple, no Alice, no Hall and Oates, no ELO, no Cars, no Feat....

There can be no true Rock and Roll Hall of Fame without these folks.......

Posted by Mac on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 17:46pm


Chicago should have been in years ago, on the strength of their catalog from 1967-1982. Reinventing themselves gave them additional hits from the period 1982-1991. Five different lead singers over the years, all with hits. The songs with multi-vocals. The horns, the list goes on. Few horn bands have followed because a seven or eight member band costs a lot of money. This is a personal vendetta to keep them out, when all the B listers are getting in now.

Posted by Mark on Sunday, 03.18.07 @ 17:31pm


When Chicago created their pop-rock style in the early 80's, they found a perfect formual and stuck with it for the rest of the decade. The only knock on them is that their 80's tunes kinda all sound the same. Let them in.

Posted by Creepozoid on Tuesday, 04.10.07 @ 03:07am


Chicago not in the Hall is a joke, plain and simple. Their exclusion devalues the entire HOF experience.

Posted by Dave on Tuesday, 04.10.07 @ 18:32pm


Perhaps the most embarassing thing to the Hall I can think of is that this band is not in the Hall of fame. And it is compounded yearly with the grandmaster flash's- and bogus inductees that follow.
You can erect a building gather a group of writers with media pull and make all the presentations you want but the people cannot be fooled. We know who the forgotten greats are.
The real damage is the youth that may not know.
Go to the Hall look over the list of inductees and never see the name CHICAGO sitting there.

Posted by anthony on Saturday, 04.28.07 @ 16:43pm


how can Chicago NOT go in??? they HAVE to be in the Rock and Roll hall of fame! original, talented. come on!! 30 LP's and counting!

Posted by Steve on Friday, 06.1.07 @ 15:58pm


Each year the list of inductees makes me wonder is this really a HOF. Chicago should have been inducted when they became eligible in '94. Since their first two albums with tracks like "25 or 6 ro 4?" where Terry Kath's guitar work defined him as one of the best around, their cover of "I'm a Man" with the lead vocals being handled by numerous band members, "Dialogue (Part I & II) asking questions which are still relevant today, to "Make Me Smile" and "Colour My World" which showcased Terry Kath's richly captivating baritone voice. To Jann Wenner all I have to say as far as advice is that you should take the advice from the title of an Eagles song and just get over it!!

Posted by richard on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 02:12am


I'm not a big Chicago fan but I have to say that they are one of the more puzzling exclusions. They have extraordinary longevity, a distinctive sound (in other words, they're not derivative), tons of commerical success, and some critical success in their early years. Seems like an airtight resume to me. Traffic belongs, but not Chicago? Really?

Posted by A-Killa on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 15:33pm


Really.

Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 06.6.07 @ 08:12am


No love for the 1994 generation:
Chicago
-Stooges
-Alice Cooper
-King Crimson
-Grand Funk railroad
-Yes
-Warren Zevon
-Johnny Winter
-Joe Cocker
All these people could have their place in the hall and all emerged in 1969

Posted by roméo on Wednesday, 06.6.07 @ 09:56am


I FIND IT REPULSIVE AND RIDICULOUS THAT CHICAGO IS NOT IN. THEY HAVE TOURED FOR 40 YEARS AND ARE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL BAND OF ALL TIME. THEIR BODY OF WORK SURPASSES EVERYONE AND ANYONE ELSE IN THE HALL OF FAME.

ON ANOTHER NOTE: WHAT ABOUT THE ROLLING STONES AND THE DO0BIE BROTHERS?

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS CIRCUS?

MJB...SEATTLE

Posted by MJB on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 14:46pm


MJB

1) Are Chicago REALLY the most successful band of all time?

2) Does touring for forty years automatically warrant induction?

3) The Rolling Stones are already in the Hall Of Fame. First ballot. Who woulda thunk it?

Posted by Casper on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 21:52pm


hall of fame - too cool for chicago ?? - they should be in

Posted by ms on Wednesday, 08.1.07 @ 06:53am


Perhaps the most embarassing thing to the Hall I can think of is that this band is not in the Hall of fame. And it is compounded yearly with the grandmaster flash's- and bogus inductees that follow.
You can erect a building gather a group of writers with media pull and make all the presentations you want but the people cannot be fooled. We know who the forgotten greats are.
The real damage is the youth that may not know.
Go to the Hall look over the list of inductees and never see the name CHICAGO sitting there.

Posted by anthony on Sunday, 08.12.07 @ 21:03pm


I think the youth would be damaged if they had to hear Chicago songs.

And what is with the anti-Grandmaster Flash bias? Seems to be coming from forty year old whities in the suburbs, I presume.

Posted by Casper on Monday, 08.13.07 @ 12:10pm


they should be in - no question - i wonder why they do not have atleast more consideration.

Posted by MIKE on Monday, 08.13.07 @ 13:43pm


Artists like Chicago are hurt with this particular nominating committee because they consider anybody after 1970 who was more popular on AM radio than FM radio to be uncool. They want an edgier feel (or heroin use as in the case with James Taylor types) otherwise no go. This is what I believe hurts others to varying degrees like Neil Diamond , Linda Ronstadt, John Denver, Three Dog Night, The Carpenters, The Doobie Brothers, Hall & Oates......

Posted by SG on Tuesday, 08.14.07 @ 01:21am


I also wanna say that I agree with Casper that the youth of today would be damaged if they had to hear Chicago songs. This is because the youth of today aren't able to process what's known as M-E-L-O-D-Y. Most of what passes today as "music" is really just 1 note repeated in a synthesized blend of reverberated echo style vocals. Actual acoustical musical instruments are virtually unheard on commercial radio. Most public schools today don't teach much music education and the ones that do are declining in number at a fairly rapid pace. Thus if a young person was played a song like "Color My World" they would start convulsing into a state of sensory overload-not knowing how to process this information.

(I personally am not a big Chicago fan and became more bored with them as they went along though CTA is a good trip)

PS-I'm a white 40 year old guy from Philly who doesn't think Grandmaster no matter how talented is R&R either. HA!

Posted by SG on Tuesday, 08.14.07 @ 02:01am


QUOTE: Most of what passes today as "music" is really just 1 note repeated in a synthesized blend of reverberated echo style vocals.

And that puts your opinion out of the running. There's a thriving underground scene and there has been one for decades now. Those artists need to be ushered in, not what's left of the dinosaurs that sold by the bucket load. More great albums are coming out yearly in this decade than in any prior. To deny that pretty much reeks of an ignorance that considers modern music only whatever they hear when they flip the dial on the way to their neighborhood classic rock station. Whatever. Carry on wayward, son. Carry on.

Posted by Casper on Tuesday, 08.14.07 @ 19:47pm


The problem is how do you usher these underground artists into the mainstream without the fame and the $$ compromising their artistic integrity? Business is to art what Raid is to bugs.
Then you're just replacing 1 bunch of sellouts with another.

Posted by SG on Wednesday, 08.15.07 @ 00:21am


"Then you're just replacing 1 bunch of SELLOUTS with another." - SG

Ah, the cry of Sellout - the scarlet S.
The ridiculous musician's Catch-22 wherein if more than 100,00 people or so actually discover your work and decide they like your stuff enough to purchase it, you have naturally compromised your integrity, abandoned your principles and somehow betrayed a true cause.

Plenty of good art has made money for its creators. What tired bullshit.

Posted by shawn on Wednesday, 08.15.07 @ 09:01am


SG also doesn't realize that there's been plenty of indie to mainstream jumps without anything close to a sacrifice of artistic integrity....Decemberists, Replacements, Modest Mouse, etc...

Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 08.15.07 @ 12:58pm


"Plenty of good art has made money for its creators. What tired... (Profanity deleted)"

Sorry shawn old pal but I stand by what I wrote.

The musical landscape is littered with promising
carreers curtailed or gone down the abyss of $$/fame induced substance abuse/mental breakdowns (see hendrix, joplin, morrison, vicious, spence, barrett, green, erickson, gibb, a few dozen other people I don't have time to mention not just in music but in other art forms like Film -Phoenix, Monroe etc as well as thousands who didn't even make it that far)
And those that do make it find themselves slowly but surely putting out more commercial music by the year bowing to the pressure of record co. execs (see genesis, yes, heart. fleetwood mac, floyd, areosmith, etc, etc, etc, etc) funny, as I'm typing this that old glen campbell standard plays in my head..."ther'll be a load of compromisin on the road to my horizon. But I'm gonna be where the lights are shinin' on me! Like a rhinestone cowboy..."


As for you, Casper I'm not sure I understand your definition of mainstream. I must have been visiting
the concession stand while The Decemberists and The Replacements were marching in the hit parade. With Modest Mouse, "we were dead..." only hit the big time a few months ago so lets give them a liitle time to succumb to the evils of corporate culture. In 2021 when they become eligible for the Hall Of Fame and if their artistic integrity is still intact I will come back here and admit to you I was wrong.

Posted by SG on Thursday, 08.16.07 @ 02:44am


Chicago had 5 #1 albums in row (1972 - 1975)...they were THE leading singles charting group of the entire 70's(in an era of the greatest music)...they had a total of 20 top ten hits...they are the longest running & most successful US pop/rock band ever...enough said!

Imagine the MLB Hall of Fame not including The Babe?, how lame would that hall be?

Do the right thing, put Chicago in!

Posted by Al on Tuesday, 08.28.07 @ 12:14pm


Yo Casper and SG,
Can't we all get along?!?! Howz about a big Chicago-style group HUG!!! Mmmmmm, feels good, huh! Now ROCK ON!!!

Posted by Tom on Tuesday, 08.28.07 @ 12:39pm


You know, although I am an advocate for Chicago being inducted, it seemed to me that Al was grossly overstating Their chart success; until I checked the singles history myself. I was pretty amazed. Chicago did cahrt in the Hot 100 no less than 28 times.... IN THE 70's. Wow.
I have to admit, that is pretty damn impressive.

Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 08.28.07 @ 14:55pm


grand master flash ???? are you kidding - Chicago doesn t even get consideration - hall of fame is trying to be too cool . no pat benatar or Heart ???? either - i don t know ....

Posted by ms on Wednesday, 08.29.07 @ 11:48am


Well, you can't use Grandmaster Flash as a basis of comparison since that's a completely different genre. Flash was a pioneer in hip-hop and deserves to be in. It makes more sense to compare Chicago to other '70s classic rock bands that are in, such as Traffic, Skynyrd, or Bob Seger. It's unclear to me why any of those three are in and Chicago is out. I'm not even a big fan but the numbers don't lie.

Posted by A-Killa on Thursday, 08.30.07 @ 10:40am


"Do you have any actual thoughts on this issue or are you just "following" me?" -anon

The irony cloud is so thick in here I'm getting high off of the second hand smoke, dude.

Posted by shawn on Thursday, 08.30.07 @ 15:09pm


Bob Wills was a national treasure from the pre-rock era, he is in as an early influence, complaining about that is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on any website ever, and I used to post at a board about professional wrestling.

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 08.30.07 @ 15:43pm


Its obvious Chicago belongs in the Hall of Fame, I can't imagine (based on numbers alone) that anyone could/would dispute that.
What this all boils down to is prejudice on the behalf of one Jann Wenner (obviously).
That's the crime here, that if someone in a position of authority doesn't like you, or has a beef with you, then your accomplishments mean nothing.
What if he had a problem with the Beatles, could he leave them out? How about The Stones or The Who? No way, but he did seem to get away with it with Chicago.

Why?

Granted, even though they (Chicago) haven't released any worthwhile material in the last 20 years (and yes, I'm a fan), that shouldn't take away from the previous 20 years of excellent music they did make.

They are basically they're own best tribute band these days and that may have hurt their legendary status.

I just can't believe the members of the band haven't stood up for themselves and called this guy out.

Like I said, do the right thing and put them in!

And thanks Shawn, I too thought the numbers seemed a bit overblown when I started looking them up. But it's all there in black & white.
(hear that Jann?)

Posted by Al on Friday, 08.31.07 @ 11:27am


These guys shared the spotlight with Led Zeppelin as the greatest rock bands of the 1970s. Sure, they relied heavily on ballads in the latter part of their career, but their early music was revolutionary. Although horns had always been a staple in rock, these guys found a way to integrate them into a rhythim section and vocal section. And, for the most part, they covered just about every musical genre out there. So, the reality is that they have defied categorization despite doing mainly ballads for the last 20 years. The album cuts in some cases are better than some of the hits.

These guys have been victims of changing tastes in the music industry and commercial radio, which seems lately to be only interested in the "flavor of the month" artist, and the music all sounds the same. These guys were a product of the late 60s and early 70s, when the music was far more diverse and imaginative. I blame the record companies and commercial radio for knocking out all diversity and imagination in the music these days. Chicago had to do what they did to survive.

These guys should have been in long ago.

Posted by Larry Launstein Jr. on Thursday, 10.18.07 @ 07:27am


Street Player '79 is a Disco classic.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Friday, 10.19.07 @ 10:44am


Chicago should have been in a long time ago. So, what's the beef Jann has against them?

Posted by tricia on Monday, 10.29.07 @ 08:31am


chicago not being in the rock hall of fame makes the hall look like a joke.even if you are not a fan of the the group or you have a personal vendetta they deserve their due.it looks ridiculous when the hall is inducting the dave clark five and their is no chicago[let alone neil diamond or the moody blues]what incredibly poor choices.

Posted by gdk on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 08:22am


Although, they've been relegated to the "guilty pleasures" part of my music library, I remember just how phenomenal they were at their prime years, and still enjoy their music. Listen to what is going on with the horn arrangements,listen to the incredible chops of Terry Kath on guitar, and listen to the various powerful vocalists. How can their greatness be denied? Granted,later permutations of the original band kind of turned them into a middle of the road pop act, but that hasn't stopped many others from being inducted!

Posted by Kevin on Friday, 12.14.07 @ 10:54am


Here is the truth for those of you wondering.

We the fans know that CHicago deserves this honor more than any other act out there, but as long as Jann and his comittee are in I dont think they will ever allow it. They falt out refuse to even aknowledge their existance.

So lets let Chicagos record speak for itself. After all the comittee can ignore the group but CAN NOT IGNORE the FACTS.

They are the only group to chart top 40 hits in 5 (yes count them) 5 decades.

OVER 120,000,000 albums sold

40 years and still going

Gold and Platinum albums too many to count.

Shall I go on JANN???????

MTV and Rolling Stone have control over who wins the Grammys and the American Music Awards and it is quite obvious that they now have control over the RRHOF and Jann and his comittee.

I bet you that all of the groups the comitte has liked were inducted automatically.

Jann and the comittee are BIASED and the selection process IS fixed....even though they deny it.

Let the FANS decide not some group of closed minded critics who wouldnt know good music if they heard it.

Posted by Ray on Monday, 12.17.07 @ 17:35pm


I am presently on holiday in the US and saw the farce that is the induction to the RnR HOF. I think Pattie Smith was being inducted - I've no problem with her per se but I got angry that a band like Chicago who, notwithstanding their global success were innovators,pioneers and survivors. Why are they constantly are overlooked, airbrushed out of RnR history. This is a sad situation and people like Clive Davis who was present ot see Pattie Smith inducted yet made millions of quid out of Chicago for CBS should be ashamed.

There will be no justice in this as Chicago are seen as MOR music, yet all you contributorsd know what they did to stimulate interet for thousands of people in the music world. it's just not cool to admit it.

Mark

Posted by Mark Slater on Tuesday, 01.1.08 @ 18:54pm


Chicago weren't really that innovative. Al Kooper's Blood Sweat and Tears did the whole brass section thing when Terry Kath was still polishing unloaded guns. Also, no one ever told them that the triple album isn't the default legnth, leading to their first few albums (the only ones close to being good) dragging ooooon and ooooon and oooon. Comparing them to Patti "I don't like e's" Smith is stupid because Patti Smith actually did good things for music. Chicago's Hall Case is DOA, and deriding the artists who actually deserved induction will do nothing to change that.

Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 01.1.08 @ 20:48pm


Skin Tight...your love is alright.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Wednesday, 01.2.08 @ 09:06am


Patti Smith may have been "influential", at least that is what they say, but there is no comparison in the longevity and iconic stature of Chicago compared to the lack of a resume of P.S. I believe I once read that "Horses" was one of the most overrated albums in music history. But, hey does anybody reallly know what good music is, does anybody really care?

Posted by Truth Hurts on Wednesday, 01.2.08 @ 13:09pm


The arguement regarding Patti Smith and her induction and those artists who have yet to be inducted will rage on for awhile.

Patti Smith's induction has more to do with the "scene" and not so much her musical ability. She wrote words that connected with the times for many. The poet of her generation, so they say. This is the myth that surrounds her. I am of her generation and watched her perform from her early days at CBGB's. And although I am not of the opinion that she did anything "Hall of Fame" worthy, she was the critics darling and many musicians site her as a severe influence on them. And whether deservingly or not, she is in and we need to move on with the next artist/performer/musician.

As for Chicago, I give them more credit than what some wish to. Kit is correct when he mentions Al Kooper and B.S. & T. However, Chicago survived from one generation to the next where many of their peers did not. They did bring a uniqueness to the scene, and even if they weren't the first, they probably were the best at what they did. They did give us one of the best live recordings and Color My World will be a music standard long after we have all left this earth. And that has to be worth something.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 01.2.08 @ 13:59pm


"and even if they weren't the first, they probably were the best at what they did."

I agree, but this whole notion that you have to be the first is stupid. Virtually everyhting done in music was done before in some form or fashion. I mean look at Zepellin, who definitley deserve induction (it is Zep for Gods sake), but nothing they did was so unique, they were a blues rock band, all of which had been done already by the great blues musicians. In fact, from their first album, they had stolen a number of blues songs and did not even give credit.

Posted by Truth Hurts on Wednesday, 01.2.08 @ 14:45pm


TH - I agree with you in much of what you say. Since I have never spoken to anyone on the HoF nominating committee, what follows is only speculation on my part.

When you are first, then you are the innovator. And there can be only so many firsts. Once you get past true innovation, then the questions revolve around influence, repopularizing a genre or style, were they one of the dominant bands of their era, body of work which sometimes is attached to longevity, muscianship, commercial success, recording of songs that have or will become musical standards and a few other criteria items. Did they build another layer onto the music which influenced them?

So the question regarding Chicago may be answered in those other criteria items. If we say that BST were the innovators, then does Chicago get in based on those other items? As you stated about Zep; they were not true innovators, but they score 9's and 10's on all other criteria items.

My opinion on Chicago is yes. Not every band is going to be selected into the Hall where it is a clear cut choice. But I think Chicago is at least worthy of serious consideration.

One question does arise from this. Does Blood Sweat and Tears deserve entry into the Hall?
Thanks for bringing them up Kit.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 01.2.08 @ 15:48pm


"When you are first, then you are the innovator. And there can be only so many firsts."

Not really. No one is ever first to do something. No artist has ever REALLY innovated. The best an artist could hope for is to be able to bring their (numerous) influences together, and create something relatively new from that.

Posted by liam on Wednesday, 01.2.08 @ 15:55pm


Not really. No one is ever first to do something. No artist has ever REALLY innovated. The best an artist could hope for is to be able to bring their (numerous) influences together, and create something relatively new from that.

I think my point is understood in the context of what I was saying. But just to keep you quiet, I amend my statement to "Relatively New".

Liam - is it your need to disagree just for the sake of it?

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 01.2.08 @ 17:36pm


The big problem that I don't think anyone mentioned (I was too lazy to look through all of the previous posts) is that if the HOF inducts Chicago, they will have to also induct Kansas, Boston, then Nazareth, America, Europe, Asia...

Where will it end?

Yes, I know that was disgusting. I still had fun writing it!

Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 01.2.08 @ 22:44pm


Why would those others have to be inducted if Chicago gets in?

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 01.3.08 @ 04:06am


"Why would those others have to be inducted if Chicago gets in?" -d

C'mon Dameon --- you don't see the theme/joke Joe was constructing there?

Posted by shawn on Thursday, 01.3.08 @ 08:13am


I knew there was a joke there, but I am old and my sense of humor has diminshed somewhat.

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 01.3.08 @ 08:40am


"I knew there was a joke there, but I am old and my sense of humor has diminshed somewhat." -Dameon

Ha-ha. Well, it could have also had to do with it not being that good of a joke, too.

He forgot to mention:
- The Ohio Players, Alabama, World Party, L.A. Guns, Miami Sound Machine, Georgia Sattelites and Atlanta Rythm Section....... to beat a lame joke to death!

Posted by shawn on Thursday, 01.3.08 @ 13:35pm


Aww man, what about...

Arctic Monkeys, British Sea Power, The Dubliners, Gary U.S. Bonds (yep, I admit to that straw-grasp), Rick SPRINGFIELD and Texas?!?!?

Posted by liam on Thursday, 01.3.08 @ 15:16pm


Good ones, Liam.
They'd also have to induct:
- New York Dolls, Manhattan Transfer and Black Oak Arkansas! This is exhausting; think I'll go listen to The Traveling Wilburys now.

Posted by shawn on Thursday, 01.3.08 @ 20:17pm


He forgot to mention:
- The Ohio Players, Alabama, World Party, L.A. Guns, Miami Sound Machine, Georgia Sattelites and Atlanta Rythm Section....... to beat a lame joke to death!

They'd also have to induct:
- New York Dolls, Manhattan Transfer and Black Oak Arkansas! This is exhausting; think I'll go listen to The Traveling Wilburys now.


I actually think that when it is their time, The Miami Sound Machine may very well receive some consideration. I am not a fan, but I just got a feeling that Gloria and her husband are well liked and respected in the business.

And as for LA Guns - they may not have the chops, library or talent to be in the HoF, but they were a band that in the 80's, you could have fun with. And chicks dug them!! I know you all hate that scene with a passion, but there has to be something said for RnR chicks in tight leather mini-skirts, high heeled leather boots and spandex tops. And they looked amazing sitting on the back of my bike. (Ladies - I mean no disrespect to you with these comments) The NY scene was nothing like LA, but some good times were had at L'Amours. The Brooklyn club was better than the Queens club, but man, we had fun, no mater the club. The Scrap Bar which was right across the street from Cafe Wa in the Village was also a great place to be.


BOA did a great version of "Jim Dandy". And I think Tommy Aldridge was their drummer. He went on to play with many acts after the demise of BOA. He is considered an excellent drummer.

And I don't care what you all think, the Dolls were as important to the underground scene as anyone. So stop picking on them. Thank you very much.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 07:33am


To defend myself:

I was only naming groups that had ONLY the names of cities, states, countries, continents, etc. as their names; hence, I didn't forget the Ohio Players, LA Guns, Miami Sound Machine, etc. (I had never heard of the band Texas.)

Yes, it was a lame joke. I still had fun telling it!

Posted by Joe on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 10:44am


"(I had never heard of the band Texas.)"

They DEFINITELY exist

Posted by liam on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 11:09am


"To defend myself:
I was only naming groups that had ONLY the names of cities, states, countries, continents, etc." -Joe

That is indefensible; utterly unacceptable!

We also forgot Hanoi Rocks, Mission of Burma and perhaps even Foreigner on our little Journey in our Cars on our Highway To Hell. Maybe we should have taken the Grand Funk Railroad instead?

Posted by shawn on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 11:19am


Now I get it. I guess my parents told me the truth when they said and I quote, "if I keep listening and playing that Rock and Roll, my brain would just slowly die." Who knew!!

And just for the sake of adding my two cents in - let's not forget our newest sensation HANNAH MONTANA

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 11:31am


No more state jokes now, guys.

I'm serious >:o

Posted by liam on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 11:46am


FYI - Linkin Park is in fact a name of a town in Jersey. The spelling is a little different.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 12:06pm


Ha-ha-ha!! Hannah Montana is a great one, right there under the nose. Did not know that about Linkin (Lincoln?) Park.

John DENVER.

Posted by shawn on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 15:25pm


Correct on the spelling of Lincoln. Great little town about 25 minutes out of NYC. Some amazing spandex came out of that little sleepy town.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 01.4.08 @ 17:20pm


I recently did research on the most deserving bands that are not in the hall and Chicago made #1 on my list. Its funny to see those billboard stats posted because when I saw them the first time I was blown away. Now when I see them posted here its funny because it makes the hall such a mockery, My list is posted at work and when ever people see the list the all repeat over and over in disbelief "These are the people NOT in the hall??" "Are you sure"?


Perhaps the most embarassing thing to the Hall I can think of is that this band is not in the Hall of fame. And it is compounded yearly with the grandmaster flash's- and bogus inductees that follow.
You can erect a building gather a group of writers with media pull and make all the presentations you want but the people cannot be fooled. We know who the forgotten greats are.
The real damage is the youth that may not know.
Go to the Hall look over the list of inductees and never see the name CHICAGO sitting there.

Posted by anthony on Sunday, 01.6.08 @ 20:37pm


Only those who were in it during the 'Terry Kath years' should be inducted.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 03.10.08 @ 07:48am


Chicago will get in after Blood, Sweat & Tears gets in.

Posted by Gregory Pietsch on Sunday, 03.23.08 @ 16:26pm


I've been a Chicago fan since the very beginning. Until recently I did not know the reason why they had not been inducted into the HOF. If in fact Jann Wenner is still carrying a grudge for a comment made 35 years ago, it is way past time for him to grow up or step aside. Without any doubt, Chicago should be in the HOF. The statistics talked about previously are reason enough. Looking at the inductees in the HOF, it is obvious that Chicago's omission is a travesty when compared to some of the jokes who have been inducted.

Posted by Perry on Sunday, 03.30.08 @ 22:18pm


Chicago should have been voted in years ago along with a few other groups that apparently in the same political boat.It's a real shame they are being snubbed!

Posted by Roger on Saturday, 04.12.08 @ 19:25pm


Chicago not being in is a traversty....they are obviously deserving! So some stupid writers wanted them to drop the horns? How stupid is that?

The whole HEART issue, isn't Nancy Wilson married to Cameron Crowe?? Gotta be some bad blood there too.

Posted by Beth on Sunday, 05.18.08 @ 01:13am


Chicago and B,S & T have to go in. Rappers, Madonna and groups with little or no musical talent got in and these guys aren't even considered...what a FARCE!! These groups along with the Moody Blues are OVER-Qualified anyway. With the Hall's mentality...it makes you wonder how the Ventures got in.

Posted by James Pankow Fan on Monday, 05.19.08 @ 12:51pm


Last year Jann Wenner gave herself (lol) a lifetime achievement award from the RRHOF... BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. Don't forget your cute little 'domestic partner' next year.

He's turning this place into a joke. Just because Peter Cetera says he only reads the Rolling Stone when he's 'taking a shit' and the powers that be at the Rolling Stone never really liked the horns, they decided that Chicago wasn't worth it.

Nice work, guys....and Jann :-P

Posted by Will on Tuesday, 05.20.08 @ 05:33am


I think the GENESIS exclusion is a bigger travesty than the CHICAGO exclusion! CHICAGO comes in 2nd!

Posted by ytgg on Thursday, 05.29.08 @ 18:31pm


Other great Chicago songs that were not singles include:

Poem For The People
Happy Cause I'm Going Home
Als is Well
While The City Sleeps
State of The Union
Goodbye
Something In This City Changes People
Happy Man
Song Of The Evergreens
Oh Thank You Grea Spirit

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Sunday, 06.8.08 @ 02:44am


Now you are bringing Bill Clinton into the act. Maybe he can play his sax onstage. Please stop - we get your point.

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 06.19.08 @ 10:33am


Does this guy Roy ever give it a rest? I have always enjoyed Chicago but after reading his constant diatribes, I hope they never see the light of day.

Posted by blah-blah-blah on Sunday, 06.22.08 @ 16:53pm


I am at a point that I don't want to see Chicago inducted just because of Roy. Hey Roy: Do you get paid by the word or by how annoying you are?

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 07.2.08 @ 08:10am


Roy... Where do you come up with this stuff?

Posted by blah-blah-blah on Monday, 07.7.08 @ 08:15am


Are they not going to be inducted due to the fact that there are so many bad feelings between Peter Cetera and Chicago, because I understand they split up on very ugly terms and to get them together on the same stage is what they want to avoid?

Posted by jenny on Thursday, 07.17.08 @ 18:45pm


Dameon...while we're on the subject of unsung guitar heroes, I had brought up Terry Kath in a previous post. Now there was a cat who could flat-out PLAY!!! You never hear of him being mentioned with the usual greats, but he very well should be...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.20.08 @ 18:08pm


I have been a life-long fan of the group and consider myself very open to all genres of rock-n-roll. Chicago has released songs that fit into most every genre..jazzy, sincopated rhythms, ballads, driving rock and have adapted to the sounds of each decade they have played.

As far as past conflicts with people, whether it is Jann Wenner, Pete Cetera or James Guercio, the time has come to mend the fences. Geez...after 40 years you would think that there are more important issues in life than to carry bitterness around.

I think the hatchets need to be buried and Guercio, their original manager and producer, should give the induction speech. What better event for the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame than to have the reunion of all of these talents on the stage at the same time. Like Dean Martin appearing on the Jerry Lewis Telethon. What a monumental moment!

It is about time everyone grew up and decided life is way too short to carry resentment to the grave.

I will do my part to petition the HOF.

Posted by beancountr on Monday, 07.21.08 @ 15:29pm


Here is my email to the president of the HOF, Terry Stewart, followed by his response.

I hope this finds you all well.
I want to petition the induction committee to consider and accept the group Chicago into the Hall of Fame. It is long overdue. They are the number 2 band of success in America, only behind the Beach Boys (members of HOF). They have produced and sold hits that cross over into many genres of Rock-n-Roll, including jazz, ballads, driving rock, and unique syncopated rhythms. The collective talents of the virtuoso artists collaborated to create music that has affected 2 – 3 generations of listeners. They overcame the challenges of dealing with music producers/ managers that took advantages of their talents for personal gain, as well as the issues in the late 60’s and early 70’s dealing with copyright issues and royalties for original work. The group was so committed to their craft that they were willing to take reduced royalties in order to release double album LPs just so they could share their messages with the world.

It is rumored that there is “bad blood” between Chicago and Jann Wenner that keeps them from being inducted. Other rumors concern the relationship between the original group members and Pete Cetera. Even other rumors deal with grudges between the members of Chicago and Jim Guercio, their original manager / producer. As a fan, I don’t care about the bitterness and resentment individuals have between themselves and others. As adults I would hope that they have all come to the realization that a lifetime is a longtime to carry a grudge and that resentment never hurts the person it is pointed against, but rather the person carrying the resentment. If these people haven’t learned that lesson yet, it is time they did. Besides, the point of the Hall of Fame is to highlight artists that have made significant contributions to rock-n-roll music. How can the history of the music be complete without a mention of Chicago! Consider this. If an Anthology collection were to be put together for Chicago, as it was for the Beatles, the collection would be twice the size of the Beatles. Chicago had so much music inside them that they released more songs than (I guess) 90% of the members in the Hall currently.

Please, end the madness of excluding this group from the history of rock-n-roll, as taught through the Hall of Fame. Make this right!

I hope you have a wonderful day

Steve Cunningham,

A music fan!




Posted by beancountr on Tuesday, 07.22.08 @ 13:59pm


THE RESPONSE:

Thanks for your comments about Chicago. They are certainly a good choice. Here’s how the process works.

Nomination and induction into the Hall of Fame is not about popularity, records sales, which label the group is on, or anything other than the process below. The love for, the evaluation of, and the impact of any artist are subjective questions to be answered by the nominators and the voters. Unlike baseball, football, basketball or hockey, statistics are not relevant.

The entire nomination and induction process is coordinated by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation in New York City. Artists can be inducted in four categories: Performer, Early Influence, Non-Performer and Side-Men. The latter three categories are evaluated and decided by separate committees.

The selection of Performers is a two-step process. The only formal criteria for the performance category is that an artist has to have had their first record 25 years ago. That said, candidates are reviewed and discussed relative to their impact on this music that we broadly call rock and roll. The innovation and influence of these artists is also critical. Gold records, number one hits, and million sellers are really not appropriate standards for evaluation.

The formal selection of Performers begins with an extensive panel of journalists, historians, previous inductees, noted musicians, industry heads, etc. In turn, those nominated are sent to a committee of more than 500 people around the world (journalists, historians, music industry management, all living inductees, musicians, etc.) who vote. Those receiving the highest number of votes and more than 50% of the votes cast are inducted into the Hall. Usually, this means five to seven new performing members each year. All this said, you can see the road to being inducted is an arduous one and for the most part, removed from the realm of influences or politics.

Finally, as I noted above, everyone personalizes everything about rock and roll, when they are brought into the circle of discussion. As such, the definition of "rock and roll," who is or was important, and who should be inducted is incredibly subjective. Everyone believes themselves to be the “expert”. Unfortunately, there are no longer any absolutes when it comes to candidates. The Chuck Berry, Elvis, Little Richard, Beatles days are gone. Going forward, the controversy will continue. Having said that, I believe that all worthy candidates will be inducted, just not always when they or their fans deem timely. In fact, there's not only precedent in our history, but also with the sports halls of fame where many great stars do not get inducted in the their early years of eligibility, or for many years to come in quite a few instances.

Peace & Soul,
Rock & Roll!

Terry Stewart
President
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum

P. S. I nominated Chicago last year. Unfortunately, they did not receive enough votes to make the final ballot. And no, there are no political issues or bad blood…just not enough votes.

Posted by beancountr on Tuesday, 07.22.08 @ 14:00pm


I propose the creation of a "grass roots" campaign to petition the 500+ members of the voting committee to vote for the induction of Chicago into the HOF.

Begin with finding "living inductess" through group/artists websites. Many musicians maintain web pages and MySpace sites that can be used as a petition platform.

In addition, bombard the local DJs and newspaper entertainment reporters, asking if they participate in the voting process.

Finally, research record company and talent management company websites and locate points of contact. Let's deluge them with emails insisting the induction of Chicago.

Is anyone with me on this?

Posted by beancountr on Tuesday, 07.22.08 @ 14:30pm


Without question, Chicago belongs into the RRHOF, but the hurdles are many and perhaps so high that a former President of The United States may not be able to climb over. The biggest hurdle is one word long...Ego.

I truly think Ego's and corporate culture has become the single reasons that a group that has sold so many songs, and records/cd's isn't in this body. The ego's are ( and im sure some will be upset with me on this) on both sides. But lets take the corporate culture issue first.

In the Music Industry, like any major industry, if one takes a mavrick route across the grain of acceptability or status quo,they are likely to become the least likely promoted/advanced ; this sadly I believe to be true here with Chicago.

Chicago believed strongly in thier creativity roots and stood up for them against the establishment; this may be a result of thier upbringing, thier influnce from the 60's culture on establishment; its likely that James William Guerico's ultra strong grip on the band in thier early years instilled in the group a " Never Again" attitude on being told what to play and what to record.

Its this approach that Record Exec's didn't like and still dont. Magazines like Rollling Stone, depend on partnenships with music recording companies and instrument companies for advertising, its thier lifeblood; if this partnership is damaged or non existant, then the Magazine is also non-existant.

So The Stone follows the corporate music and free thinking artist, and groups are targeted first by contract/label loss and then when nothing affects the artist/ group, then the legacy is attacked as it is here.

Now the ego part... Record Exec's,Managers, Labels, and Artist all have Ego's...The bigger the entity the bigger the Ego; when Ego's clash the results is loud and almost as big as the ego's in question.

Chicago, right or wrong, in letting Guerico go after Terry Kath's death, fired a shot across the establishment bow that they likely didnt believe to be a big deal; but it was. James William Guerico was an established manager/promoter who had many friends in the industry, his dismissal was an affront to the establishment and to someone who was connected(musically). Corporate Ego at work.

James Pankow is a talented musician, singer/songwriter and a nice human being; but James Pankow is passionate about his music, and isnt afraid to speak up and out when his work and the work of his fellow musicians in Chicago is affronted, either real or percieved. Mr Pankow's comments noted in this thread are form the heart, but when read by those who might vote to respect the body of Chicago's work, may work against the band.

I can see where Mr. Pankows heart and mind are, but I can see the view form the other side. Ego's across the lines and the results are saddening to all who love Chicago and thier great music.

Another sad commentary to this issue is the Ego's outside the box; Peter Cetera, the golden voice in back up and lead on so many great songs of Chicago's ( and one who influenced me musically so much) left the band after 18 years of great music. The Corporate Ego that worked against Chicago on the RRHOF has also hit Mr. Cetera as a solo act, in that despite a solid musician, he too has no record company, and that too is sad.

But equally sad is the what if; what if the RRHOF did put Chicago in, based on comments I have read, Mr. Cetera would not join the band to recieve the honor, something that is sad to all the fans who love both him and Chicago, sad for his wonderful and beautiful two daughters to see thier father with the men who shared the majority of his youth, and sad for us fans who would love to see them together again for just a single shining moment.

Ego's again at work...How sad. It's crazy that the Hall doesn't induct in a musical act that influenced so many people in so many ways; sad that some members already in the hall know Chicago is worthy and yet say nothing to mak it so.

Lives are all too short, the musical greats of yeaterday are starting to pass, some already gone, we dont have time for Ego's, and its time to Honor the craft, if not the men.

By honoring that craft, we must insist that Chicago be inducted, if not for anything else, then at least for the craft that Jimi Hendrix called " Gituarist better than I am"...what a statement huh?

Do it for Terry Kath...and lets bring in all who have made Chicago great...Laudir,Tris, Dewayne, Keith and those who helped along the way.

I have one final word for the RRHOF and all the Ego's who have blocked this bands place in History...Its summed up in a Chicago song...."IT BETTER END SOON"

Thanks for listening, and I hope I didnt offend anyone....

Bassplayer_525

Posted by Bassplayer_525 on Friday, 07.25.08 @ 05:43am


For those who don't read the "Press" section of the Chicago board, here is what Jimmy said last week to a newspaper reporter about the Rock-Hall:

Chicago brings horns to Plain Dealer Pavilion Tuesday
Friday, July 04, 2008
John Soeder
Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic

Chicago co-founder and trombone player Jimmy Pankow, 60, filled us in by phone recently from a tour stop in Harrisburg, Pa.

Q: Chicago has been eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for years, although you've never been nominated. What if anything would being inducted mean to you?

A: "If we were invited, I really don't know if we would give a [expletive], to be honest with you.

It's not only Chicago. There are other artists, like Neil Diamond and the Doobie Brothers, who are way overqualified, and they're not in the Hall of Fame.

It would be nice if induction was based on real accomplishments. If that was the case, we would've been in there years ago.

We're certainly qualified, 100 million albums later.

It's gotten to a point where it's almost laughable. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is really not an accurate representation of historically successful artists . . . to Jann Wenner's discredit."

[Wenner, publisher of Rolling Stone, is chairman of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, which oversees the induction process.]

Since I posted Jimmy's recent comments above, I decided to transcribe Robert's talk about the Rock Hall situation to a disc jockey at WMJC radio in NYC on June 27th.
For the record, here it is....

DJ: I refuse...and I have this up on my website... to acknowledge the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame until they induct Chicago. How are you guys NOT in the Hall of Fame?

Lamm: I honestly don't know. I'm guessing it's... it must be something personal, although I have been told by members of the Board who I'm acquainted with that Chicago's name does come up year to year. We have kind of gone through the whole vetting process but we've just never made it through to number one.

DJ: It doesn't make any sense.

Lamm: Well, I don't get it either. I mean (giving) all due credit and respect to those who have been elected to the Hall of Fame, I don't disagree with any of those choices, but I certainly think Chicago deserves to be alongside all of them.

DJ: Absolutely! I tell you, you don't need all that recognition to do what you're doing, still touring... it's been 40-some odd years... and you're going to go on
'til forever, right?

Lamm: That's the plan right now. The plan is to never stop.Chicago-911

On the above comments by Robert & Jimmy:

It was good to hear Robert confirm that Chicago's name comes up "year to year" for consideration in the early stages of the process.

The real problem IMHO is that the Rock Hall has a glut of noteworthy candidates, but they've only inducted on average 5-7 artists per year lately. The Hall has only existed since 1986, if I recall the date correctly, so they have a lot of catching up to do.

Jann Wenner is so tied to the small number of yearly inductees that, when he replaced the Dave Clark Five with Grandmaster Flash in 2006, he refused to expand that year's winners by even one spot to induct both. (The DC5 did get in the next year.) Hopefully, they'll be more flexible in the future.

Along with fans of other groups, we're not alone in our frustrations with the Hall.

The BAND knows they belong.

And WE know they belong.

And, despite Jimmy's suggestion that the band might not care by the time they'd be inducted,
I certainly hope they'd be honored for the most obvious reason:
THEY BELONG IN THE ROCK HALL!!!

Question is: With all the different decades the Rock Hall has to choose from, when will Chicago work their way up. All I know about the upcoming (2009) class is what I saw in an article,
that The Hollies may have the inside track for inclusion, so one spot is likely filled already.

Hey, Rock Hall: All we want is for the band to be inducted before they need wheelchairs
to attend the ceremony!

Posted by Briangator on Friday, 07.25.08 @ 05:47am


Roy,

Aerosmith, Jackson Browne, Michael Jackson, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Queen, Bonnie Raitt, Bob Seger and ZZ Top were all eligible prior to 2000.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Friday, 07.25.08 @ 14:08pm


I have been a fan of Chicago since 1989, when I was first getting into music. I don't think I am alone when I say their music has been a soundtrack to my life. Chicago has, and always will be, a band without peer. Go back and listen to a song like "Introduction" on Chicago Transit Authority or the "Ballet for a Girl In Buchannon" on Chicago II. Each layer of those songs is so rich, so deep, it was like a work of fine art. The work of Terry Kath on guitar and Cetera's bass work is highly underrated. They are never given the credit they deserve. It goes to other bands of that time like Zep or Hendrix. The horns are like another voice. And Lamm, Kath and Cetera each had a unique vocal style. It is such a shame that a band who has sold 120 million and counting albums is not given their just desserts. Many younger people who listen to Led Zep or Pink Floyd or Sabbath just don't know what kind of music Chicago made in the late 60's and early to mid 70's. If they would go back and listen to CTA, they would be shocked. Instead, when they hear Chicago, they think of "Look Away" and "You're the Inspiration", which aren't bad. They just aren't "cool" by today's standards. So Chicago is thrown into the trash folder and overlooked. Thanks a lot, Jann Weiner! And I am being nice just calling him a weiner. I can think of a lot meaner words than that...including two that end with -ck and head!

Posted by JT on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 18:36pm


"Chicago has, and always will be, a band without peer."-JT

If go you back and read a few of the more recent comments, particularly on the Blood, Sweat, and Tears page, you'll see that particular statement is a bit of a stretch.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 19:21pm


Not only did Terry Kath admire Hendrix, Hendrix admired Terry Kath

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 19:55pm


Aaron...true statement!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 07.26.08 @ 19:59pm


The Morning Comes: An Analysis of Peter Cetera

After careful examination of a handful of your songs, I have come to two conclusions about you, Mr. Cetera. The first conclusion is that you had been planning your departure from Chicago even before you were asked to join the band. Chicago was a tool that you used to make a name for yourself in order to be able to have a solo career later on in the future. You were never planning on staying with Chicago. During your seventeen years with Chicago, you kept your desire to leave the band all bottled up inside of you. You were not sure how you were going to tell your bandmates that you wanted out. Your only outlet was your music. You had hidden messages in the songs you wrote. When you wrote "If You Leave Me Now" and "Baby, What A Big Surprise" you were not thinking about a woman. What you were really thinking about were your bandmates from Chicago and how they would feel if you left them. Your song "Hard To Say I'm Sorry" was also a cry for help. It was your apology letter to Chicago, three years in advance. When you finally got the guts to tell your bandmates that you were leaving the band, baby, it was a big surprise to everyone.

On your second solo album, your first after leaving Chicago, appropriately and dramatically titled "Solitude/Solitaire" you included a song called "Big Mistake" which you had started writing while you were still with Chicago. Once again, I don't think you were thinking about a woman when you wrote that song either. What you were really thinking about were your bandmates from Chicago. Was it a big mistake to leave the band? You purposely made a pretty obvious reference in the song "Big Mistake" to the song "Baby, What A Big Surprise."

Quote: "Baby you might get a big surprise tonight" from Big Mistake

The second conclusion is that you are a person who does not dwell on the past. You are always looking to the future. It's either that, or you really like the phrase "the morning comes" which you use in three of your songs.

Quote: "Hold me 'til the morning comes" with Paul Anka

Quote: "He'll be gone when the morning comes" from Big Mistake

Quote: "When the morning comes and it's time to go start another day" from Daddy's Girl

Posted by RoughhWolf on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 05:33am


Popstrology: The Art and Science of Reading the Pop Stars:

What's Your Sign? Use the Pop Music Charts to Reveal Your Personality Traits, Guide Your Relationships, and Discover Your True Destiny.

By Ian Van Tuyl and Owen Grover, 2004

Page 123: Chicago - You may not deliver thrills, but you sure deliver value.

True to the need of the album-oriented rock (AOR) format that launched them, the first four released by the band called Chicago comprised three double albums and one quadruple album. That's 10 LPs in a little less than thirty months, and if you factored that into your Birthstar's already staggering album-sales figures, you might find that in terms of sheer tonnage, Chicago shipped more vinyl than any other American rock band in the 1970s. Not bad for a band that could have walked through O'Hare Airport at the height of their success without attracting so much as a single screaming fan. That's not because their fans didn't love them, but because total subjugation of individual ego to the collective good of the group was the rule in Chicago, even to the point of using a logo rather than a picture of the band on all of their albums. It would turn out in the end, of course, that the incredibly accomplished and hardworking musicians who had chosen so admirably to prosper as seven anonymous dwarves had been harboring a would-be Snow White in their midst all along. Peter Cetera was his name, and as soon as his name became well known to those who loved his high tennor voice, he was asked to leave a hive that was perfectly happy not to have a queen. "Team player" may sound like faint praise sometimes, but find the right team to play with and you'll realize your true power.

Lasting, Massive, Whitebread, Familiar, Not Sexy

Constellations: Launching Pad, Lite & White

Birthsongs: #1 Hits

If You Leave Me Now - October 17-30, 1976
Hard To Say I'm Sorry - September 5-18, 1982
Look Away - December 4-17, 1988


Page 117: Peter Cetera - You are the glorious butterfly who's reluctant to emerge from the cocoon.

What Michael McDonald and Lionel Richie were to the Doobie Brothers and the Commodores, Peter Cetera was to Chicago: the man who found his true voice while teaching his former group how not to rock. It took your Birthstar 17 albums with Chicago before he worked up the nerve to go solo, but when he finally did, his timing couldn't have been more perfect. The year was 1986, the constellation Reaganrock was in its ascendancy, and Kenny Loggins was simply too busy to record every single movie sound track, which left Karate Kid, Part 2 to Cetera and his Glory of Love. And if your Birthsong's bombastic Whitebread grandeur seems indistinguishable from Chicago's 1982 #1 Hard To Say I'm Sorry, it only goes to show you (a) the degree to which Cetera had transformed his former group by the end of his tenure and (b) the enduring appeal of a full-tilt, over-the-top power ballad in the hands of an uninhibited master. If you sometimes feel like renting the entire film oeuvre of Ralph Macchio and staying up all night to watch it, that's just popstrology at work. Because like your Birthstar himself, you are the type who understands the importance of the word "sometimes" in the edict that less is sometimes more.

Massive, Whitebread, Familiar, Not Sexy, Forgotten

Constellations: Spin-Off, Reaganrock, Theme Singer

Birthsong: #1 Hit

Glory of Love - July 27-August 9, 1986


Page 118: Peter Cetera and Amy Grant - You might actually be a saint, but to someone you're a sinner.

It's extremely difficult to imagine Peter Cetera as a defiler of a pious and virtuous young woman, but that's exactly how many of Amy Grant's biggest fans saw him when he tempted her into a popstrological Power Couple in late 1986. Ms. Grant wasn't a pop singer, you see--she was a singer of gospel and Christian Contemporary with a devout following that bought her records in the millions and viewed her move away from their chosen genre as a true fall from grace. You are too young to remember, but as powerful as the constellation Reaganrock was in the 1980s, its watered-down sound was still demon rock and roll to some, and not just a lunatic fringe. These were the years after all, in which Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority was at the apex of its powers, and devotees of his brand of Christianity viewed Ms. Grant's crossover as a grim portent indeed. And perhaps their fears were well founded, for not three months after you were born, the taint of sin was shockingly revealed even within the holy confines of the Praise the Lord Ministries, whose leader Jim Bakker provided America with what historians may someday call the first great scandal of the modern media age. As a child of Peter Cetera and Amy Grant, you are unlikely to be viewed as an iconoclast, and yet your capacity for toppling dubious icons through seemingly innocent actions is popstrologically unquestionable.

Whitebread, Familiar, Not Sexy, Forgotten, Minor

Constellations: Power Couple, Reaganrock

Birthsong: #1 Hit

The Next Time I Fall - November 30-December 6, 1986

Posted by RoughhWolf on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 05:36am


In Chicago's 16 years of eligibility, many Chicago fans have tried to move the unshakable opinion of Jann Wenner to try to get Chicago nominated. There was even a group of radio DJs that tried a few years back, but Wenner changed the nominating requirements that prevented the nominations from counting thus preventing Chicago's nomination.

The efforts of fans have been far less successful than that of those DJs.

The interview that Bob Sirott did with Walt, Lee, Jimmy, and their manager Peter Schivarelli for their temporary exhibit at the Chicago History Museum. They took some questions from fans and someone asked about Chicago not being in the RRHOF, and Schivarelli answered the question in great detail about the DJs who had tried to get Chicago inducted.

The requirements for who could be nominated weren't changed, but the requirements for who could do the nominating were... There are very few (if any) radio DJs with nominating power any more.

Posted by Perplexio on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 21:54pm


Roy...Even though their contributions to rock music can't be overlooked, the present regime down at the hall seems to feel otherwise. Until there are some wholesale changes I don't think they'll ever get in, along with some other most deserving artists.

Gotta make room for the hip-hoppers and bubble gum pop dance queens, ya know!! Better watch out, the Jonas Brothers are on the latest cover of Rolling Stone and Oprah thinks they're right up there with the Beatles...I can't believe she'd make such a absurd comparison!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.3.08 @ 08:33am


Don't exaggerate. As long as they'll induct bands like The Dave Clark Five, there's still hope for Chicago. The number of hip-hoppers and dance queens inducted is still limited to two. And as long as they only induct deserving hip-hop and pop acts, there's still plenty of room for other genres to get nominated. They'll have a hard time finding nine influential or innovative rappers and pop singers every year!

Posted by The_Claw on Sunday, 08.3.08 @ 10:26am


I don't think it's an exagerration at all. I don't know how old you are, but the DC5 made a lot more noise than people think. I'm not really sure what their beef is with Chicago, but there doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel. I think that the whole induction process has turned into a conundrum that's going to be difficult to remedy. It's going to be increasingly difficult to keep inducting from the 60's and 70's while they're letting people like Madonna in (who I feel had absolutely NO business being inducted) their first year of eligibility without looking stupid. They're going to get put on the spot on why "it took so long". They set a very bad precedent. It's not supposed to be a popularity contest, but who made the biggest impact with their influence and innovation on ROCK & ROLL MUSIC!! Does that term even ring a bell with anyone anymore??

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.3.08 @ 11:28am


It is an exaggeration. Hiphoppers and female pop acts are quite rare in the hall of fame. One of each, to be exact. And so are mor recent acts. Only 25% of all the acts in the hall had their first record released in or after 1969, the year Chicago debuted. They hardly even begun inducting 70s acts! I don't see why the induction of Madonna would end that prematurely. She's not thát powerful.

Or do you mean that now they are inducting pop acts, they will forget the rockers? Well, they never intended to focus solely on rock music, and they never did. If they would, they would have called it the Rock Hall of Fame, not the Rock & ROLL Hall of Fame. But still, after inducting quite a lot of acts from other genres, including pop, soul, blues, funk, hiphop, country, disco, folk, beat, surf, reggae and jazz, they still found room to induct The Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zep, Queen, AC/DC... Off course you'll never feel comfortable with the Hall of Fame if you only consider one type of rock 'n roll as the true form. Their range is much broader than yours.

The "what took them so long" remark is unavoidable, how hard they'll try. Don't forget they inducted three acts last year that began their career before Chicago. And there are more acts out there that were quite important to the history of rock & roll and began before '69. Just ignoring major, more recent acts so slightly less important, older acts can make it in, won't work. Those acts you ignored to get older acts in, will be the "what took them so long" acts of the future. I rather have them inducting the most important eligible acts than only chosing quite important acts just because some of their members are getting too old.

I admit, I too have my problems with the nominating committee. They rarely nominate the nine most important eligible acts, and some very influential acts have been ignored for too long. But I feel that that has more to do with a bias against some music genres than an effort to induct as many 'popular' acts as they can. If that was the case, Chicago, one of the most succesful groups in the U.S. in terms of record sales, would have been inducted a long, long time ago. If it really was a popularity contest, how on earth could Leonard Cohen have beaten Donna Summer and The Beastie Boys? Kudos to Leonard (what took them so long?), he completely deserves induction, but I doubt he's the more popular one.

Posted by The_Claw on Sunday, 08.3.08 @ 19:18pm


To me, rock & roll is simply rock & roll, and I do realize it has a lot of stepchildren (aka subgenres). The direction they seem to be going would be veering more toward calling it the "Popular Music Hall Of Fame", which would go back a lot farther than the 50's. I just don't want to see it become diluted. Being inducted should really mean something. Rock & Roll (which "Rock" is just short for) to me, anyway, just has a different feel to it than anything else. To me, "pop" is it's own genre, along with rap/hip-hop, country, etc...I know you'll probably think that would thin out the selection, but in a way, it should. I also know that with that mindset even someone like SRV getting inducted would be questionable because he was a BLUES player. It's a touchy subject, and I certainly don't have the correct answer for it. I just hate seeing derserving artists who, in my opinion, are the essence of Rock being overlooked.

Claw...I respect and acknowledge your opinions and appreciate your input.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.3.08 @ 21:01pm


"Claw...I respect and acknowledge your opinions and appreciate your input."
The feeling is mutual. You put into words what many people think and feel about the RnRHOF, but you know how to do it in a way that is both well-argumented and respectful. We maybe disagree on a couple of points, but I think we both can agree that the way the induction process works right now isn't a great one. I hope that in 2010, when they'll have an induction ceremony for the 25th time, they'd do something special, like doubling the number of nominees and inductees, so some notable omissions could finally get what they deserve.

Posted by The_Claw on Monday, 08.4.08 @ 07:54am


They'll get in. I noted earlier that the voting committee is plunging into the waters of the decade (the 80's) that made them want to create this thing in the first place. Faced w/ the hideous combo of British synthesizers and American hairspray (as they may or may not see it) the reaction will be one of two things:

1. They'll follow the lead of Stave Van Zandt and take refuge in the 60's. This will expose the fact that all they ever really wanted was a 60's museum in the first place, and everyone from the Strawberry Alarm Clock to the Blues Magoos will start to show up on the ballots.

2. They will be swayed by the younger voting voices and the younger acts they've already put in (if U2 & REM can still be considered young!) and stay within the 70's, at least until Seattle shows up on the radar.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 08.4.08 @ 19:12pm


Cheesecrop (I'll bet there's a story behind your moniker...)...That's definitely one way to look at it that hasn't been broached yet. Was I right in using the word "conundrum"???

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 08.4.08 @ 19:30pm


Okay...here is my effort. I did write Paul Schaffer via the CBSMailbag@aol.com regarding Chicago and the Hall, since he is a voting member.

In addition, below is a form letter I am going to send out to as many voting members or other recording icons that I can contact, including legendary DJs and media reporters.

After the letter, I will list 3 addresses of some big names (you should recognize). What is the forum's input to sending multiple copies of this letter to these three names, all from various Chicago fans? Let me know your thoughts.

I hope this letter finds you well.

I am writing you inform you of a “grass roots” effort that has been formed to contact voting members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The issue we want to bring to light is the exclusion of the group Chicago from the Hall’s inductees. I understand that record sales and chart numbers don’t drive the inclusion / exclusion decisions, that there are other contributing factors considered. However, looking at the longevity of this group and its impact on introducing different styles of music to a host of listeners (rock jazz, ballads, driving rock, Latin rhythms, and pop) I believe their impact on the history of rock and roll is too great to be overlooked.

When compared to some of the other inductees I have concerns regarding the factors that are considered. I have never viewed Madonna’s music to be Rock and Roll, but rather pop. So, the type of music a musician or group of musicians played must not be a large factor to consider. I don’t wish to take away from the contributions the current inductees have made. I am more curious to know why Chicago has been excluded. What did they fail to accomplish that, if done, would put them into the Hall? I received an email from Terry Stewart, President of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum recently. He assured me that there the exclusion was not related to any political or personal vendettas, but only the lack of sufficient votes.

So, with that said, here we stand, asking a group of distinguished musicians, icons in the industry, to join us in this effort. Please, help us to correct this situation while the members of the group are still around to appreciate the recognition. I implore you to do your part, what ever you can, to add a missing piece to the history of Rock and Roll, by placing Chicago amongst the great musicians of our time.

Sincerely,


TABLE 1

Members of Chicago to induct to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

Terry Kath
Peter Cetera
Robert Lamm
James Pankow
Lee Loughnane
Walter Parazaider
Danny Seraphine
Laudir De Oliveira
Donnie Dacus
Bill Champlin
Jason Scheff

the three addresses:

Irving Azoff
3500 W Olive Ave
Burbank, CA 91505-4628

Clive Davis
745 5th Ave
New York, NY 10151-0001

David Foster
3300 Warner Blvd
Burbank, CA 91505-4632

Posted by beancountr on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 05:10am


I would be happy if just Terry kath got in.

Posted by Rob on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 16:24pm


Chicago deserves Hall-of-Fame status although I'm not sure why any such quality would desire the one in Cleveland, especially with Jann Wenner at the helm.

Why Chicago? Let's start first with Terry Kath playing Hendrix before Hendrix AND BETTER! Hendrix called Kath HIS INFLUENCE! Then, go listen to the band from CTA to about '72. They had a consistent anti-Nam message along with premium musicianship and melody combined with a dazzling horn section written by Jimmy Pankow. That period alone should be enough as other inductees apparently only required a single release. I believe hey were also the first "rock band" to play Carnegie Hall.

But, as has been stated so often on these posts, you're closer to this Hall if you're furiously angry and can swear like a truck driver. Notice that I didn't add a single thing about musicianship.

Posted by Gig on Saturday, 09.6.08 @ 11:16am


It's September 23,2008 and once again Chicago is not a nominee. How can anyone take this organization seriously when one bitter man can carry such a vendetta and have so much power. It is astonishing that the 13th most successful group in the history of the Billboard charts is not even considered. Another sad day for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by C J on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 19:27pm


The HoF is a sham regardless of what it does or does not have.
Posted by William

Agreed,it's fun killing time here though,but yeah it's all bullshit.
RRHOF = A popularity contest = ing one big circle jerk.

Posted by Gary James CA on Monday, 09.29.08 @ 22:04pm


WHO THE HECK IS JANN WERNER? The first 3 albums should have instantly got them in. Yeah they mellowed out,,,but dang Terry Kath tore it up!

Posted by Bryan on Tuesday, 09.30.08 @ 12:47pm


I voted 'no' on Chicago's chances only because I know the Hall's politics and the way the comittee's tastes run.

It seems you have a better chance of getting in the hall if you only know three chords than if you are a band full of highly skilled musicians, some of whom *gasp* actually went to music school like Chicago.

Their first five studio albums were, both musically and creatively, some of the best ever made during the rock era.

However, all still got panned by Rolling Stone. Too bad they can't blacklist Jann Wenner!

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 10.1.08 @ 13:29pm


It devalues the whole point of The Hall of Fame that Chicago have not already been inducted.

It's a disgrace and a gross injustice.

Posted by P Allen on Thursday, 10.2.08 @ 09:11am


Roy...I don't think this guitar actually exists. By the appearance, it has a Fender headstock. Fender already has (or had) a Terry Kath signature Telecaster. Also, it only has twelve frets, which would make it very limited. Fender wouldn't make such an electric guitar...it wouldn't even make a good boat paddle! Furthermore, if he were alive, I seriously doubt Kath would endorse such an instrument.

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 10.6.08 @ 17:47pm


Wow, is this ridiculous? To say Chicago is not worthy of the R&R Hall of Fame is like saying Buddy Holly sucked. Will, you are an idiot. Although I am a Chicago 1-11 guy, the band has endured and lived on. I wasn't a ballad era guy. Killer brass, Peter Cetera on vocals and bass (voted top bass player, early 70's Playboy, Danny Serephine, drums, Downbeat Magazine early '70's, picked out by Buddy Rich as one of the best drummers, Terry Kath, one of the best guitar players ever (as they played warm up for Hendrix in '67/'68, it is well documented he said Kath was a better guitar player than him. He was.) I'll put him up against any one. Listen to Poem 58 on the first album. Listen to the rest of the album. Induction. Give me a break. The band changed over the years, but 40 years of constant music speaks loudly. I went to a concert several years ago. (I saw them in the Tery Kath days @ 10 times). Thought I would hate it. Bought two beers. Realized I had two beers sitting at my feet at the end of the show. Enough said. Do the research I speak of.

Posted by CTAMan on Monday, 10.20.08 @ 00:59am


Styx was the first band to have 3 consecutive platinum albums and was the #1 touring band for years in the early 80's. Journey also was a #1 touring band and has consistently been near the top of the charts in the early 80's as well as more recently. That doesn't mean those bands don't "suck," but PLEASE don't say they aren't "top selling acts." You just make yourself look like a Chicago-crazed crackpot.

Posted by prognosticator on Monday, 10.20.08 @ 13:05pm


The differences between Chicago and all those other bands that The Rock Hall and Rolling Stone hate is:

All those other bands like Boston, Kansas, Journey, Styx and REO Speedwagon, have always sucked!!

Chicago didn't always suck!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.20.08 @ 04:43am
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That's a rather subjective opinion there. While I'm not partial to some of the acts on the whole, I'll tell you right off that the best work of both Boston & Journey can compare favorably w/Chicago's best. While I probably do like more songs from Chicago, there has never been anything wrong w/"More Than A Feeling", "Wheel In The Sky", or "Any Way You Want It". "Hitch A Ride" is another favorite, and for my money at least, "Stone In Love" is an absolute gem. Chicago's got plenty of great stuff, and I don't want to go deeper into a full-blown recitation of their entire catalogs. I've no doubt there are others who feel the same way about Kansas, Styx, and Speedwagon as well.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 10.20.08 @ 17:54pm


Guess Roy is a big Chicago lover. So am I, but I agree w/ a comment made (somewhere above) by Dameon. After reading about 50,000 words and a lot of repeats, he does get to be annoying.

Yes, Chicago SHOULD be in the RHOF. No doubt. Thank you for pointing out the Wenner vendetta and the other reasons for the snub, which I did not know. Suggest you would do better however to leave politicians out of it. I love Chicago, but I hate Bill Clinton. If he were to give the induction speech I'd shut off my television - too many unpleasant memories of him wagging his boney finger in front of the camera.

Now I see RS, the magazine Peter Cetera "wipes his ass with," has gotten increasingly political. Guess Wenner must figure this new format makes for gravitas? He wants to be credible, yet he childishly harbors resentment toward Chicago, Quincy Jones, Hall & Oates, et al. Denies Neil Diamond also. That said, I do read his magazine anyway (don't use it for tp, its not good for that).

But now Roy really is right. Chicago is one of my favorites and they DO belong in the rock museum.

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.23.08 @ 11:22am


Oops! I wish to retract my statement, "I hate Bill Clinton." Let's not be haters here. But bringing him into the discussion only causes distraction. Let me say rather, I'm not a fan of Bill Clinton, but probably would not turn off my television on account of him.

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.23.08 @ 14:09pm


How would ya like to have Mike Love speak? Might prove to be Fun, Fun, Fun, til the Rock Hall took the microphone away! (smile)
http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blog_files/Mike_Loves_Induction_Speech.html

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.23.08 @ 17:57pm


Roy, I'm still feelin bad. Like I messed up yor dream dude. One of these years Chicago will make it in (lets hope), and you should have yor dream induction speaker. But am thinking, if you hold out, maybe we could get a fresh new president - who actually has Chicago connections? That would really "Make Me Smile" baby!

Posted by Telarock on Friday, 10.24.08 @ 17:53pm


Can somebody please tell me what vile deed Chicago has done to the great and powerful Mr. Wenner to deserve their barring from the Hall?

Seriously, Chicago should be in for longevity alone. So what gives?

Posted by Randy on Wednesday, 11.5.08 @ 01:53am


Chicago simply rocked in the early years and lead the Nation in the latter years. They do deserve to be in the Hall. Now!! You listen to a song like "Introduction" and you hear what being a player is all about from the whole band, top to bottom. Come on, we all can't like all the music but with as many top selling LP's and Top Ten Tunes, PUT CHICAGO IN THE HALL OF FAME.

Posted by Lana on Wednesday, 11.5.08 @ 15:19pm


The use of Chicago's music during the elections is merely because Obama is from Illinois, and the networks don't want to look to uncool or unhip in regards to their audiences.

Never mind that they almost invariably end up doing so.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 11.6.08 @ 05:38am


Can somebody please tell me what vile deed Chicago has done to the great and powerful Mr. Wenner to deserve their barring from the Hall?
(Posted by Randy on Wednesday, 11.5.08 @ 01:53am)
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Has something to do w/Peter Cetera saying he wipes his ass w/Rolling Stone pages. But that was only after long-standing snub by Wenner's mag. Wenner or one of his toads actually thought Chicago might be better off if they lost their horns? Needless to say folks at RS never did "get" Chicago.
Also I checked Wilson&Alroy's reviews and they have never reviewed any Chicago albums. So they don't appear to be a critic-friendly group? It is perplexing!

The songs from "The Chicago Transit Authority" (a two-set, 1969) and "Chicago II" were so lyrically fresh and jam-packed musically - those 2 albums are out'n'out rock classics. They were great at least up til Terry Kath's death in 1978. Beyond that I don't know.

Vote "Yes" to Chicago. There's way too much talent and musical material there to keep blocking them out.

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 11.6.08 @ 12:20pm


Chicago is legend. Can't believe they're not in. If Bach & Beethoven were alive in the 60's & 70's they would have been in Chicago

Posted by Holly on Monday, 11.24.08 @ 21:06pm


Not that all HOF members were hugely acclaimed, but... Chicago hasn't really racked up any major critical acclaim through the years (check out acclaimedmusic.net to see that). And, the 80s period, I think, hurt the group (even though I like some of the hits from that era). And, I don't really see a huge impact- i.e. groups that were influenced by Chicago, followed itslead, all that.

Posted by JR on Monday, 11.24.08 @ 21:12pm


Roy.....Did you get it all out of your system? I think we all know your opinion of the Chicago snub.

Posted by blah-blah-blah on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 06:53am


Roy...you obviously know very little...if anything about the Dave Clark 5 (I'm guessing this because Chicago seems to be the only group you can talk about in depth)or that particular era in music. So with that in mind, please refrain from talking about them.

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 07:27am


Didn't Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass fuse jazz and pop/rock years before Chicago??

Posted by interviewer on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 10:15am


interviewer, to answer your question: No, Herb Alpert and TJB did not fuze jazz and pop/rock. Herb Alpert, had a new sound (at the time) and an incredibly successful career. But his sound had minimal if any elements of rock. It would be more correct to say he fuzed jazz with Latin, particularly Mexican. Beginning with Lonely Bull and many other TJB hits had distinct mariachi influence.

One of these days I will write a post on what IS rock. Because it seems many people really don't know, at least they don't seem to know how the RHOF defines rock. For now, understand this, the core sound in rock is almost always the guitar. The string is the thing! I will elaborate some other time.

As for Chicago, I'm a big fan just like Roy. Chicago did have two prominent guitarists. Terry Kath on lead guitar was probably the defining instrumentalist for the group, and Peter Cetera was a great bass guitarist. They would have been a great rock band without the brass. But the horns actually added another "voice" to their sound, made them even better. They belong in the RHOF, long overdue.

But now, Roy, stop beating up DC5. Are you mad at them cause they are inducted and Chicago is not?

Posted by Telarock on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 11:51am


BTW, I can only to speak for Chicago up to the time of Terry Kath's death in 1978. Past that time, it's a different group for me.

Posted by Telarock on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 12:02pm


Telarock said: 'BTW, I can only to speak for Chicago up to the time of Terry Kath's death in 1978. Past that time, it's a different group for me.'

That's why they should only induct 'the Terry Kath years'. No one who entered the band after his death should be inducted (if Chicago is ever inducted).

Personally, I think they will be inducted some day (maybe after Jann Wenner dies). Maybe after I'm dead & all the band members are dead.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 12:47pm


Street Player

Posted by Joe-Skee on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 14:51pm


I agree with you Paul in KY. I wouldnt support inducting any members of Chicago beyond the group as of 1978. There could be no end of it! So maybe that is part of the "problem"?

Posted by Telarock on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 16:14pm


This thing with Chicago is like beating a dead horse. I think for whatever reason, they're not gonna get inducted...no matter what line-up you offer! Members of the nominating committee seem to have it in for them, and let's not forget that Jann Wenner seems to have some sort of "veto" power...just ask the Dave Clark 5!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 18:04pm


True, but those bands didn't piss Jann Wenner off. How do you propose to get by that, Roy. He obviously can't be pressured or told what to do, and he has displayed a certain "veto" power.

Everyone who knows anything about popular music over the last 40 years knows perfectly well what Chicago has accomplished, and you can waste your time typing up these lists you come up with and rant and rave about the injustice. But how do you propose getting by someone in charge who is seemingly made of teflon, doesn't care what the fans think, and seems to really have it in for Chicago...among others?

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 18:31pm


Everyone who knows anything about popular music over the last 40 years knows perfectly well what Chicago has accomplished, and you can waste your time typing up these lists you come up with and rant and rave about the injustice. But how do you propose getting by someone in charge who is seemingly made of teflon, doesn't care what the fans think, and seems to really have it in for Chicago...among others?

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 18:31pm
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Tis' the reason why I'm not really here to talk HOF, but rather just rock in general which, if it has to, will wander down the path of the Hall.

Roy -

I may actually have an answer to your Chicago dilemma that may make some sense. I'm not going to try and advocate Wenner too much here, but in all the mentions of jazz & rock, nobody has mentioned the Doors. They have a far greater calling card than Herb Alpert or Miles Davis when it comes to the real fusion of jazz & rock. In addition, they do show up a full two yrs. before Chicago (at least in terms of the charts - 67 to 69). Could it be that Wenner honestly believes he HAS inducted the original jazz-rock act? I DO support Chicago, but you can make something of a case here in this regard.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 19:49pm


Also don't forget The Zombies. Rod Argent definitely combined jazz and rock on She's Not There in 1964-three years before the Doors came along. Also Traffic used jazz elements starting in 1967 as well as Zappa and Beefheart in the mid-late 60s.

So this notion that Chicago was the first to incorporate jazz into rock is simply not born out by the facts.

Posted by classicrocker on Tuesday, 11.25.08 @ 23:08pm


Roy, this is becoming an endless diatribe and hate orgy for Jann Wenner besides. I saw yor post about "bands with more than 9 members" - it doesnt move me. When I think of Chicago, it is the following:
Terry Kath
Peter Cetera
Danny Seraphine
Robert Lamm
James Pankow
Lee Loughnane
Walter Parazaider
Laudir DeOliveira
Beyond the above personnel, you have some 'enterprize' which was formerly the artists known as Chicago. Just a succession of people tailgating on the name Chicago. I'm not having it.

Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 11.26.08 @ 08:58am


Chicago should have been inducted YEARS ago! What is wrong with you people?

Posted by Kathy on Saturday, 12.13.08 @ 11:22am


When I saw that Chicago was not inducted in the rock hall of fame, I couldnt believe it. How in the world is one of the most influential and popular bands not already in?? For a long time they were just as popular as the beach boys. It truly confirms the inaccuarcy of the rock hall of fame. Its more like a joke.

Posted by Mr. Journey on Monday, 12.15.08 @ 11:04am


Happy New Year Roy...I was wondering when you would send out your first New Year posting on Chicago. Thanks for reiterating everything that you have told us a 10x before. Maybe 2009 is the year for your boys.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 06:07am


Roy,

"Chicago Transit Authority" does include one song song that was NOT original. "I'm A Man" was first recorded by the Spencer Davis Group with Steve Winwood on lead vocals.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 09:15am


Roy, we (all who frequent this site) know you love Chicago, but why did you post the albums list twice? One list has 20 and the other has 19? I tried but couldn't find Waldo. (missing #)

As to getting Chicago nominated: Its tricky! Why would their chances improve anytime in the future? If you actually know who makes up the nominating committee these days, you should expect a turn away from classic acts like Chicago and Tull and Neil Diamond. I unfortunately see a move to more pop and hip-hop. And I don't think modern-day Chicago cranking out albums w/ all those super-bowl type numerals is going to do squat for their chances. Sorry Roy, but thats the way it iz.

Posted by Telarock on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 10:51am


Has Chicago even made it as one of the nominees any given year? It[s one thing to be discussed (which is included in "previously considered," but another if the group actually hasn't even made it to the nominee ballot. And even still, Chicago has been eligible for 15 years- I said it before, the switch to te glossy sound of the 80s may have hurt the band's chances.

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 11:22am


What's wrong with a group trying to change with the times. The 1980's was all about Synthesizers. You know that. At least for the first half of the '80's they were. Horn pop music was dying out.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Tuesday, 01.6.09 @ 11:30am


CTA - I'm A Man written by Steve Winwood
III - When All The Laughter Dies In Sorrow - Kendrew Lasalles

Posted by rhh on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 10:19am


I don't understand why people post chart stats here- that has nothing to do with the HOF. If the committee doesn't feel a band should get in, it won't make it onto the ballot.

Joe, there's nothing wrong with changing with the times. What I meant was that Chicago's music in the 80s wasn't highly favored by critics; it was the kind of sappy, syruppy material that is "frowned upon." And, Peter Cetera definitely continued that tradition when he went solo.

You can get an idea of how acclaimed an act is by visiting acclaimedmusic.net. None of Chicago's singles are in the current top 3,000, and just one album is (Chicago Transit Authority). Not the most beloved band, critically, unfortunately (I like the music myself, though).

Posted by JR on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 11:12am


A critical and commercial success.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 11:18am


JR....I just checked out that site (acclaimed music). I didn't really have time to go through the whole site. How did they arrive at their rankings? I have to say that I am very unimpressed with their listing. But then, I am rarley impressed with listings from magazines, websites or TV shows.

I have never really commented on Chicago so here is my buck 3.80. I like them. I thought their first 5 albums were pretty damn good and somewhat different than what was mostly out there at the time. I think they deserve a spot in the Hall; but I also think there are some bands that need to get in before they do.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 12:38pm


Regarding that site, acclaimed music - Nevermind by Nirvana is ranked as the 3rd greatest album of all-time. With all due respect to Nirvana and the Grunge scene, there is no chance in hell that album should be rated higher than Who's Next, Rubber Soul, Tommy, Exile on Main Street, Let It Bleed, Pepper, London Calling, Rocket to Russia and countless other albums. This site has minimal viability as far as I am concerned after reading this list.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 13:37pm


Don't dismiss the sitejust because you disagree with one ranking. That site is not about how high a record should be rated, but how high it actually ís rated. Don't blame Acclaimed Music for Nevermind's high rating, blame all the journalists and all the other listmakers that the site uses as a source.

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 15:10pm


Regarding that site, acclaimed music - Nevermind by Nirvana is ranked as the 3rd greatest album of all-time. With all due respect to Nirvana and the Grunge scene, there is no chance in hell that album should be rated higher than Who's Next, Rubber Soul, Tommy, Exile on Main Street, Let It Bleed, Pepper, London Calling, Rocket to Russia and countless other albums.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 13:37pm
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Why not? It's a classic album, isn't it?

Why can't a more modern album be ranked high? (and I use that term modern lightly, seeing as how Nevermind is 18 yrs old) Plenty of classic albums since the start of the 80's -

GNR - Appetite Def Lep - Pyromania
VH - 1984 M. Jackson - Thriller
Prince - Purple Rain Police - Synchronicity
Smiths - Meat is Murder J&MC - Psychocandy
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Pearl Jam - Ten S. Pumpkins - Mellon Collie...
Beck - Odelay MB Valentine - Loveless
Radiohead - O.K. Computer

Is it only because those albums are older? If that's the case, I vote for Ricky Nelson's greatest hits, not for any coherent reason, but simply cause it's... older.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 16:25pm


Each adn every 1 of the 3 previous commentors re acclaimedmusic.net have self-contradicted.
1) JR - doesn't like charts/stats but then proceeds to offer up yet another list of "acclaimed albums" from a Swedish website.
2) Blah-blah-blah - trashes the whole list because of an issue with Nevermind (1 album) but almost all other groups he prefers are in the top 25 of that list.
3) The Claw - says it's NOT about what should be, it's about what IS. Based upon what? And isn't the whole idea to determine what should be???

Just a little jab at ya dudes, in fun. But I did look at the list and read about how it is made. Every list is only as good as the judgement of the people surveyed. What this dude, Henrik Franzon, does is to actually compile lists of lists. He takes multiple lists from different sources and crunches all the data together. What that does is effectively unweight any biases.

In my opinion the top portion of the list of "3000 Albums" is actually not too bad.

Posted by Bubble on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 16:26pm


Cheesecrop you snuck in just before my post. If you want, that website does give different versions of lists. The "All Time" lists probably rightly give weight to albums which have stood the test of time.

Also, excuse me Blah-blah-blah, The Who didn't hit the list until #34, just above "Thriller" which is #35.

Posted by Bubble on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 16:39pm


Cheesecrop you snuck in just before my post. If you want, that website does give different versions of lists. The "All Time" lists probably rightly give weight to albums which have stood the test of time.

Also, excuse me Blah-blah-blah, The Who didn't hit the list until #34, just above "Thriller" which is #35.

Posted by Bubble on Wednesday, 01.7.09 @ 16:39pm
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Will have to check that out when I get a minute.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 01.8.09 @ 05:49am


Excuse me if someone else has mentioned this, but posting up Chicago's chart success is kinda a moot point(irrelevant). They just don't have the credentials to get in... lack of musical influence/innovation, marginal critical acclaim... but I WAS shocked at the 7% chance of getting in. That's way too low for a band with their success.

Posted by ray on Monday, 03.2.09 @ 02:06am


Chicago's chart success is staggering, with nearly 50 hits to their credit, but their style is undoubtedly what turns off potential voters, as they abandoned their early blues-rock upbringing that had featured Terry Kath's guitar pyrotechnics for a more mellow adult contemporary jazzy ballad persona that made them superstars in the 70's and 80's but resulted in often poor critical response. Whether the Hall embraces the oft-maligned image that pop-rock has remains to be seen, even twenty years in to the proceedings. Worth examining, but will often fall short.

Posted by RAKER on Monday, 03.2.09 @ 02:30am


this band was really big in the 70 's - i mean really big -but seeing all the different guys parading around like they were part of that band is strange.

i bet if they put this band to sleep 20 years ago = they would have been in

Posted by golfer on Tuesday, 03.3.09 @ 11:09am


Street Player....

Posted by Joe-Skee on Wednesday, 03.4.09 @ 15:28pm


Isn't it strange how the band that defines the critera isn't in the RRHOF? What's wrong with you guys?

Posted by Chuckago on Saturday, 03.7.09 @ 10:58am


After finding this website and reading all the comments, I have 3 things to say. First of all the RRHOF needs a complete makeover and someone needs to go back and induct all those that are so deserving and already past their eligibility dates. 2nd, I thought a HOF was also for the FANS! 3rd, All you naysayers prove exactly the points that Chicago should have been inducted a long time ago. Whether you realize it or not, you all took the time to make a comment instead of just letting it go by and you unconciously compare Chicago to the Beatles. Chicago is not a STATIC band and no two songs sound alike. Chicago has the ability to adapt to the times and have played every type of music known to Rock and Roll.

Posted by mountainfan on Saturday, 03.7.09 @ 11:19am


I'm sorry but, Chicago does not define the criteria. They're great accomplishments are more in the category of making "catchy" melodies that became huge hits. They're music was inspired by other influences. It's very difficult to write great music. But writing good music is one thing. To innovate a whole new sound is another. I'm not an RR Hall of Fame apologist. They're are a ton of great, innovative artists that have been left out(The B-52s, The Stooges, Deep Purple). But Chicago is not one of them... and Chicago will NEVER be compared to the Beatles.

Posted by ray on Saturday, 03.7.09 @ 13:21pm


"2nd, I thought a HOF was also for the FANS!"--mountainfan

You thought wrong. The museum is possibly for fans. But not the intangible HOF itself. This is about peer recognition only. Like the Acadmey Awards.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03.7.09 @ 16:27pm


To Ray

If you have not listened to every single Chicago song from 1969-1979, please don't comment. You're an idiot if you think The B-52s should in The Rock Hall and not Chicago.

Posted by FAZ on Sunday, 03.8.09 @ 04:51am


Chicago was innovative!! So what if no one ever copied their sound or style of a piano, two guitars, drums and three horns. So what if no one in the music industry that came after Chicago sites them as an influence. That does not matter in Chicago's case. Chicago's style is what matters.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 03.8.09 @ 05:07am
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In some way aren't you shooting yourself in your own foot w/this kind of logic? You're repeatedly saying who cares if no one followed Chicago's lead, yet isn't that the point you're trying not to play up?

No Offense meant here; I like Chicago myself and have no issue w/them making the Hall. Just noting that anyone who feels they should not be in now has a stockpile of ammunition to work with here....

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 03.8.09 @ 09:19am


"CHICAGO STARTED JAZZ-ROCK FUSION!!"- Roy

Actually, I think people like John Coltrane, Dave Brubeck, Wes Montgomery, and Miles Davis were experimenting with "Jazz/Rock Fusion" way before Chicago came along. Also, if we're purely talking about that kind of music, outside of the obvious bands that Chicago draws comparison to, during their heyday you also had Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return to Forever, etc..., who were all very good fusion bands, and none of which list Chicago as an influence. They were contemporaries who leaned more to the jazz aspect, but were more likely influenced by people like Davis and Coltrane & Co. To say Chicago "invented" Jazz/Rock Fusion isn't a very accurate statement, nor is saying they were the best. Looking at just the line-up of those three I mentioned, you have a "who's who" of artists who were/are the best to ever play their instruments. Chicago did, in fact, have more commercial success than the others, which could boil down to "right place/right time".

Please understand Roy, I'm not dissing Chicago in any way. I do, however, think they should be put in proper context. I'm not the one to even venture a guess as to why they haven't been inducted. I think it boils down to a limited group of people who are passing these sorts of judgements and who are in control of the situation, and they simply don't-like-them!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.8.09 @ 10:55am


Let me edit my statement...they were/are AMONG the best to ever play their respective instruments...sorry for the oversight.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.8.09 @ 11:30am


Chicago's sound has never been copied!

Posted by asif on Sunday, 03.8.09 @ 12:17pm


There's a whole lot of great bands who you could say the same thing about...what's your point?

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.8.09 @ 13:19pm


To Faz,

What makes you think I haven't listened to Chicago? And what makes you think that I don't like them? It's not their music or "songs" that's the issue. And check out the B-52s chances of getting in. It's 44% compared to 9% for Chicago. What does that tell you? There's nothing wrong with sticking up for a group that you love. But you gotta be a little more objective about it.

Posted by ray on Sunday, 03.8.09 @ 15:34pm


Their statistics are staggering. They are virtually the only band on earth to have new material hit the charts through FIVE CONSECUTIVE DECADES. They also pioneered a sound that combined elements of jazz and rock with three simultaneous lead vocalists who all had distinct voices on radio. Their influence over musicians is impossible to calculate, from Terry Kath's contributions to rock guitar, to Danny Seraphine's massive inspiration to drummers, to their horn section's revelation to every high school band kid in America that THEY too could be rock stars - even if they never picked up a guitar. Lastly, Peter Cetera has one of the THE most recognizable "hit" voices on radio.

NOBODY on the "why not?" list here on this website deserve to be in the Rock Hall more than Chicago. Like prog-rock innovators Yes, Chicago have been kept out for political reasons. They pissed off the bigshots at Warners when they recorded their 22nd album, Stone Of Sisyphus, an artistic statement that could very well keep them out of the Hall forever. Chicago represents an undeniable injustice that surrounds the Rock Hall selection process and destroys the institution's credibility. It's a very, VERY bad joke.

Posted by Vince on Sunday, 03.15.09 @ 22:03pm


nice to see the originals perform at hof - will miss kath - but would be a good show vs the dud shows lately.

heart and par benatar both still can put on a show -they deserve it AND can perform still.

give us break stop putting people knowbody heard of its boring

Posted by ms on Wednesday, 03.18.09 @ 20:47pm


Chicago may not be in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame, but I saw them perform summer 1971 in an intimate atmosphere in New Hope PA outdoors in the round with at most an audience of 1500 or so people.

They were absolutely incredible. I was a total rock/head who loved the Pink Floyd, The Who, Deep Purple, Hendrix, etc. One would not put Chicago in that group of music but seeing them live they totally rocked out. Kath's guitar work was scorching, as good as Clapton, Trower, Blackmore, Frampton or any of the other guitar wizards of the day.

Tight, tight instrumentation, great compositions. They performed mostly CTA material from start to finish. I loved Kath's solo's in "I'm A Man" and "Questions 67 & 68". What a great show they put on. I thinked they were peaking then. Tons of feedback and distortion. Unexpected and tenacious.

Posted by Ed on Tuesday, 03.24.09 @ 19:36pm


Roy - if you read my comment on (About the eligibility class of 2010, Dameon wrote), I copy/pasted an e-mail which Dave Marsh sent me regarding certain bands that I am in favor of. I am fine with opinions of all; but he makes it very clear that there is in fact no objectivity in the voting process and that I & I in fact are not the sole basis of induction. Personal taste of the voting board rules!

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 04.9.09 @ 07:08am


I'd say they were interesting from 1969-1973.

After that most classic rock bands had to develop a much more commercial sound. The whole music industry changed. Most of these bands simply became too partied out. They lost the edge that made them great to begin with.

What about the Rolling Stones? Did they ever do a song as good as "Gimme Shelter" after their 1969 "Let It Bleed" release. "Sticky Fingers" had some great stuff but they made a lot of "uninteresting" music throughout most of the 70's, 80's to the present.

Did Pink Floyd ever come close to duplicating "Dark Side Of the Moon", a 1973 release? Not in my book.

Paul McCartney's best solo recording "Band On The Run", came out around 1973. After that McCartney was a poser. He didn't even try to write creative stuff throughout the seventies.

John Lennon made one great album, his first. George Harrison made a fantastic album "All Things Must Pass" in 1970. After that he pretty much disappeared in the music scene. There were even rumors that he retired. I believe John Lennon followed George into retirement.

It is all pretty similar as the times changed these classic bands no longer were relevant in their genres.

Yes I'll agree with Dave Marsh that many artists had their "interesting" periods but I feel the same about all of the other artists above I mentioned and guys like Dave Marsh would never doubt their rock hierarchy.

Posted by ed on Thursday, 04.9.09 @ 20:35pm


CHICAGO'S ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SCENARIO:

Song that plays while Chicago is walking up to the stage to take their trophies and give their speeches: Saturday In The Park

Chicago Performance: Beginnings, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, If You Leave Me Now, Baby What A Big Surprise

The All-Star Jam: Feeling Stronger Everyday, Dialogue 1 & 2, Free

Posted by KOOK on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 09:38am


Chicago should have been inducted by now. They were an inspiration to me back in 1970 and are an inspiration to my children today.
Lets please show some respect to one of the greatest rock bands of all time "CHICAGO".

Posted by Ron on Monday, 05.25.09 @ 20:13pm


I think that CHICAGO should have been
in years ago!!!

I think PETER CETERA should be in the hall of fame also because for years he was the voice of CHICAGO!!

TulsasGinaG

Posted by GINA G on Thursday, 05.28.09 @ 19:45pm


The fact that there even needs to be a discussion is appalling. The RRHOF is just another museum until they start putting in all the people that deserve it. Let the fans vote.

Posted by Chuckago on Friday, 05.29.09 @ 10:53am


THE BLACK HAWKS SUCK

AND SO DOES JANN "MR. I'M TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL" WENNER

Posted by OKTOBERFEST on Tuesday, 06.9.09 @ 19:11pm


Wow, Roy, you should be called Dr. Roy after that music history dissertation. (smile) Okay, I'll give you my Yes vote for Chicago already! I've been watching a lot of James Brown videos recently and the Godfather of Soul certainly did have impressive horn arrangements behind him.

Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 07.29.09 @ 15:39pm


Hey Roy, care to cite your source there? Plagiarism is still a crime.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 08.1.09 @ 17:19pm


Hey Roy, care to cite your source there? Plagiarism is still a crime.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.1.09 @ 17:25pm


Git, that took me a minute to get, but ROFL!

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 08.1.09 @ 17:40pm


Said it before and I still believe it- the slick shift in sound come the 80s hurt Chicago's chances. Granted, the band's pre-80s music as a whole hasn't received all that much in the way of acclaim, but I think the pre-80s work definitely stood out more than what came in the 80s and beyond.

Now, I enjoy "Hard Habit to Break" and "You're the Inspiration" fine enough, but that kind of materail is not HOF-worthy.

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 08.18.09 @ 21:13pm


Though they formed in Chicago, the band moved fairly swiftly out to L.A. to work with producer/manager James William Guercio and it was Hollywood rather than the Windy City that set the tone for their jazz-rock fusion. Their first outings had been relatively earthy under the name Chicago Transit Authority, but after their name had been shortened and their logo created, it was showbiz (and a string of hits) all the way, including 1976's smoochadelic 'If You Leave Me Now'. Much derided for naming their albums like Rocky movies - their line-up for such a large band was astonishingly stable, broken after eleven albums only by the death of guitarist Terry Kath. Fellow jazz rockers like Blood, Sweat & Tears and Electric Flag had long since foundered and cynical onlookers considered Chicago by far the smartest outfit for wising up to the limitations of the genre and opting for commercial success.

Posted by QAZ on Sunday, 08.30.09 @ 19:42pm


How in the world is CHICAGO not in the hall yet. What an crime!!! Rock On Guys, and I personally will never go to the rock hall until they are inducted!!!!

Posted by Pete Selvaggio on Wednesday, 09.9.09 @ 16:35pm


Put CHICAGO in the Hall!

It's the best band ever!
They really deserve that!

Long live CHICAGO!

Posted by Jen on Saturday, 09.12.09 @ 06:20am


WE ARE ALL HERE FOR ONE REASON, FIGHTING TO GET CHICAGO THE BAND, INTO THE HALL OF FAME. SO WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PROBLEM, WHY AREN'T THEY IN THE HALL OF FAME?

WHAT CRITERIA DOES THE HALL OF FAME BOARD GO BY TO BE INDUCTED IN? I DO THINK IT'S POOR TASTE, BAD JUDGEMENT TO TAKE SUCH TALENTED MEN THAT WRITTEN, PRODUCED SO MANY WONDERFUL SONGS OVER THE MANY OF YEARS, HOW DOES THIS GET PASSED BY. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID CHICAGO MUSIC IS ALL THE COLORS OF THE RAINBOW FROZEN IN TIME, AND IT REALLY IS.

BOARD MEMBERS GETS YOUR ACTS TOGETHER AND STOP THE NONSENCE, LESSER GROUPS WHO DON'T MAKE THE CUT HAVE GOTTEN IN. I AM SORRY BUT YOU ARE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE. RECONSIDER AND GET THEM IN THE HALL OF FAME WHERE THEY BELONG, HOME SWEET MUSIC HOME................^j^ TAMMY MICHAEL

Posted by TAMMY MICHAEL on Saturday, 09.12.09 @ 06:50am


Was it Jann Wenner, publisher of Rolling Stone and rainmaker for the RRHOF? He never "got" CHI.....

I'll repeat my argument against Wenner, who has asserted that the band became a ballad band and forfeited its place as an avant-garde rock band: then how do you allow the disco-king Bee Gee's in?!?!

I agree that the Bee-Gee's deserve to be in based upon their earlier work....and ditto CHI....


The Bee Gees have some things going for them - even when compared to Chicago. They started making hits even earlier. Nothing Chicago ever did came close to defining an era like Saturday Night Fever (love it or hate it) did. The Bee Gees have written many hits for other artists (Chicago has not), the Bee Gees have been highly successful producers and the Bee Gees songs have been covered thousands of times. And yes, they've sold a pile of records and had a very long career.

While Chicago deserves to be in, there is no question in my mind that the Bee Gees deserve their induction completely.

Posted by jammin@50 & DrackIsBack on Saturday, 09.12.09 @ 14:02pm


To Roy,

Here's the criteria: Basically influence and innovation. Roy, maybe you should start making a case for an artists' induction by addressing what they have to offer in these categories. Not that I'm saying Chicago don't belong, but Roy you usually just state Billboard Chart history or make lists rather than the criteria at hand.

Posted by Dude Man on Monday, 09.28.09 @ 20:30pm


Alright, then good luck with that.

Posted by Dude Man on Monday, 09.28.09 @ 21:09pm


No Chicago? Hello??? Their influence on getting horns off of AM radio and onto FM cannot be missed.

Posted by QAZ on Tuesday, 09.29.09 @ 10:16am


Street Player

Posted by Joe-Skee on Friday, 10.2.09 @ 13:27pm


"Those two portions of the song Hold On that I mentioned above would also make a great way to annoy someone who is not a Chicago fan." - Roy
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Roy, arent you an advocate for Chicago? And why did you keyput all the same lyrics twice (2x)??? Excess verbiage!

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.8.09 @ 08:32am


This is exactly what makes this HOF a big joke.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1801712/posts

In this the complete corporate & political age
we are saturated with garbage & told that it is great.
It doesn't work on people who actually think.
However for this & future generations weened on the media machine it's words are the reality.

It is proven over & over & over that this band should have been on this list years ago.
On just the strength of their 70's work alone.

However with the bias, politicking & general bull,
we see that they are not.
I only pray more that when the quality acts are nominated in the future, they will tell this committee to stick it where the sun does not shine.

Posted by Kenny on Sunday, 11.15.09 @ 11:57am


In terms of Influence....Chicago & Blood Sweat & Tears Horn dominated "Jazz Rock" sound was duly influenced, by their own admission by The Beatles "Got To Get You into My Life" (1966)....a song Chicago did live and B,S & T later covered...

...and even THAT Beatles song was in turn itself influenced by The Beatles Fellow Merseybeat Band The Fourmost...who in 1964 had done a cover of "Baby I Need your Loving" and in 1965 did "The in Crowd", & "Yakety Yak" with heavily featured Additional Brass ...from the Band Sounds Incorperated....over their Beat Group Sound.

The Fourmost also did Carl Perkins "Sure To Fall" with Country Fiddles over Beat Group sound anticipating The Byrds Country Rock sound by some three years !

The tracks "Sure to Fall", "The in Crowd" & "Yakety Yak" were all on The Fourmost 1965 Parlophone album "First and Fourmost" Produced by Beatles producer George martin.

Thus that "Jazz Rock" sound always credited to B,S & T... was in fact being made back in 1965 !

Both B,S & T and Chicago SHOULD be inducted into the Hall of Fame however for their influence on others and sheer Track Record of worldwide Sales etc....

If he does hold a silly Grudge against Chicago from way back... then Maybe Jann Werner ought to be REMOVED from his position.....?

Posted by Zeke on Monday, 12.14.09 @ 05:13am


It's a disgrace that Chicago has not been inducted. But, hey go figure, if Linda Ronstandt can't get in, do you think Wenner is going to let Chicago in? Jann Wenner you are beyond cruel and mean, grow up.....

Posted by dee on Saturday, 12.19.09 @ 17:34pm


Chicago is one of the most talented bands around.
They deserve the chance to be recognized for their accomplishments.

What do we have to do to get them there? They have been overlooked far to many times.

Pat

Posted by Pat on Sunday, 12.27.09 @ 15:34pm


80 million records sold - somebody must like this band

Posted by golfer11 on Saturday, 01.16.10 @ 16:55pm


The reason that Chicago is not in the rock Hall of Fame is because the Hall wants a reunion of the band with all original members. Pete Cetera refuses to do that. Since they pay the bands to perform Pete considers himself "another band" and demands half the money. That is the only reason that they are not in.

Posted by gary walker on Thursday, 01.21.10 @ 05:01am


gary walker, that's interesting if true. However, there can never be a reunion of 'all original members'. It's been that way since 1978.

The Hall has inducted ABBA & I can assure you there will be no reunion at their induction.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 01.21.10 @ 06:42am


Just so we are all clear! All of Chicago's songs and suites are available in their entirety on all their albums. I have them all. Those were never shortened or butchered. It's only the radio and singles versions of their songs that are shorter.

Posted by RAKER on Sunday, 01.24.10 @ 10:10am


I've followed them since they started playing in the late 1960's. i have all there albums through "Stone of Sisyphus". They've been around longer then some of the other bands that are already in the hall now. They should have been elected in the first year they were eligible. Earth, Wind and Fire, a band with the same setup as Chicago(keyboards, brass, percussion & guitars), is already in, so WHY NOT CHICAGO. they paid their dues!!!!!

Posted by jimbo on Monday, 01.25.10 @ 12:30pm


Hey Roy...

Just direct us to the IMDB page and we'll read it there. No need for a novel.

Posted by Chris on Monday, 02.15.10 @ 13:22pm


Geneis is sorta a similar case- where the latter era was not as well-regarded as the early era (the Phil Collins years vs. the Peter Gabriel years).

However, early Genesis was progressive and such, whereas Chicago was more of a pleasant, lighter group. And then those 80s years and beyond probably hurt the group's chances for induction.

Eligible since 1994 and not a single nomination? Would be surprising if the group was considered any time soon. We have seen acts be eligible for some time and then score a nomination, but that's not the norm.

Posted by JR on Monday, 02.15.10 @ 14:45pm


“Ranked in Golf Digest's "Top 100 in Music" (December 2006 issue) as tied for 15th place with Darius Rucker and Justin Timberlake, with a 6-handicap.”

Well that makes all the difference in the world! If he had a 7 handicap, I’d say no, but a 6? Open the doors!

Posted by Ralph on Tuesday, 02.16.10 @ 07:01am


Roy...there are some of us who were growing up during Chicago's heyday that just didn't think they're all that hot (for my part, I liked songs by Blood, Sweat, and Tears, Tower of Power, The Ides of March, and Sly & the Family Stone a little better)...even though I thought the world of Terry Kath as a guitarist (I thought a big part of that group died with him). As for the Hall of Fame, they're kind of a "hard sell" for me (if our high school band would've played "25 or 6 to 4" one more time, I would've been physically ill).

Why don't you just keep it down to your personal thoughts on them and quit posting these "novels"...some of actually experienced their heyday, and can draw our own conclusions...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 08:03am


Roy
Unlike some.. I like Chicago .I ALSO LIKE BLOOD SWEAT and TEARS..Chicago are still making music and they are really good..! I would not be surprise if they get In. Time will tell.

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 08:27am


"In my opinion they are the worst snub for a group, as far as solo artists go you tell me how Neil Diamond isn't in the Hall." Everyone keeps complaining about this but don't bother with specifics, which I do for my snubs. Care to make a case for Mr. Diamond (aside from longevity)?

"No Moody Blues, no Yes, no Chicago, no ELP, no Rush, no Tull, no Purple, no Alice, no Hall and Oates, no ELO, no Cars, no Feat...." Since you brought up prog, what about King Crimson? You forgot some other major artists.

"Perhaps the most embarassing thing to the Hall I can think of is that this band is not in the Hall of fame. And it is compounded yearly with the grandmaster flash's- and bogus inductees that follow." Not the most embarassing by any means. Sales isn't everything.

"Well, you can't use Grandmaster Flash as a basis of comparison since that's a completely different genre. Flash was a pioneer in hip-hop and deserves to be in." Someone sees sense, unlike the overweight wimpy 40-year old soulless whites (I'm 20 and white myself)/aging hippies that visit these boards.
"It makes more sense to compare Chicago to other '70s classic rock bands that are in, such as Traffic, Skynyrd, or Bob Seger. It's unclear to me why any of those three are in and Chicago is out. I'm not even a big fan but the numbers don't lie." Ditto. Some people have been scratching their heads over Traffic, and I'm not sure Seger did anything that Bruce didn't do better. Skynyrd's okay because they helped bring Southern Rock to the masses, and are one of the quintessential Southern bands.

1) "Are Chicago REALLY the most successful band of all time?" No, not even close.
2) "Does touring for forty years automatically warrant induction?" It's not part of the criteria.
3) "The Rolling Stones are already in the Hall Of Fame. First ballot. Who woulda thunk it?" Yep, try doing research before posting.

IF Chicago were the first to mix jazz and rock, and were the first to use a horn section, then they should be in. If they didn't do either of those then it's going to be a hard sell for me, because I don't hear much about their influence. Actually, I'm almost prepared to say no right now unless someone either destroys Roy's computer or blocks him from the site. Direct us to the bloody site and stop giving us novels. Twat.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 03.7.10 @ 15:49pm


But that isn't what happened. I'm not sure that I agree with your perspective. I find Danny's comment very interesting. In the first clause, he speaks from the perspective of someone who wasn't a member of the band and part of the decisions that "cost them" a huge following in his opinion. Certainly that was not the case. And now he performs covers of some of the very songs that his comment appears to criticize because they were popular on the radio.

Hindsight's always 20/20. In this case, I am not sure I agree with your conclusion.

Posted by chinolefan on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 10:12am


Interesting thoughts. I know I was one fan they lost when they got too "radio-oriented."

Posted by ftg3plus4 on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 10:13am


Fair enough, but there are probably also a number of fans who became fans because of airplay on popular radio, too.

Posted by chinolefan on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 10:14am


With all due respect, chinolefan, I don't see Danny's comments as negative at all towards the band - just the opposite.

It would have been great had Chicago had that attitude with the biz in the beginning, and I remember Robert saying that they never intended to be a Top 40 singles band. They were innovative and daring with their writing in the beginning but they strayed from that, I'm sure largely in part from pressures from the label to crank out more radio-friendly songs. This was a sacrifice that was necessary (at least from the way they viewed things) in order to get more radio play and to reach a wider audience.

However, once Chicago turned to more ballads and more music that abandoned their original vision, it's no secret that a number of the diehards from the early days became confused and Chicago's loyal fan base changed. Yes, they developed a new following with a new generation of fans. But I believe what Danny says is true to a certain degree. It's disappointing that Chicago can't sell out stadiums like they did in the '70's and early '80's because they should be able to. The majority of their audience is different now, I think, as there are many more casual fans that just want to enjoy some great music on a summer evening and not nearly as many diehards like you and me that have followed the band through most if not all of their career and been there for them through all the changes through the years.

I don't think Danny is criticizing the band's work at all. Rather, he is paying tribute to all the great music from the early days of the band and wants to keep it alive (as well as throwing in some GREAT covers from other groups as well in his fantastic live shows). I believe he is proud of what he and the band accomplished in the '70's and I admire and respect him for what he is doing today.

I also respect your view on this issue as well. This is just the way I see it.

Oh, and Roy, I understand what you are saying about what the band should have said. However, the music business doesn't exactly work that way. Artists signed to a major label do not call the shots. It might be a little more liberal today, but it definitely wasn't in the '70's. Artists back then were at the mercy of a record label and if they didn't agree with what the label wanted for them, there would have been no chance of being signed. If Chicago had not gone the route of going through a major label like Columbia (thanks to Jim Guercio's connections) there would have been no way they would have become as popular as they did in such a short time. They would have struggled a lot in the beginning for recognition without that influence. Record companies spend a lot of money to promote musicians and that is why they exert so much power over them if they are signed. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with major labels and all their decisions. I am just stating facts.

Posted by stratwoman on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 10:15am


Thanks for your perspective, stratwoman. I am not trying to be overly critical of Danny - I enjoy his new work, and I greatly respect his contributions to the legacy that is Chicago. Whether or not he's "criticizing" the band isn't really the point. I just find his comments and his actions are somewhat in conflict with one another.

I also recognize and agree that there are a number of original fans who couldn't or wouldn't accept that the band has changed over the years. Furthermore, I agree that some members of the band (past and present) may not have liked the more commercial direction that was taken. They didn't have complete control over their future - there were some trade-offs.

Where our perspectives diverge relates to what the band's following might be today if they hadn't made some of the afore-mentioned changes and even some trade-offs throughout the years. One of the many reasons that I continue to be a die-hard fan of Chicago is that their musical history is diverse, and they continue to tour extensively. With all due respect to Grateful Dead (since that is the example shared in the original post), there is no comparison on those terms.

Posted by chinolefan on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 10:16am


Art and money have always been an uneasy mix. My main problem with the music industry, particularly in regards to how a band like Chicago got treated by it, is that it's primarily concerned with selling to the vast majority of consumers who are not truly "music" people.

Posted by ftg3plus4 on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 10:17am


It's always easy to revert to the "what if" in life and to project our own opinions into what we believe would have happened if decisions were different. No one (including Danny and the band members themselves) has any idea how their career would have turned out if they remained an album oriented band and did not modify their songs to fit radio airplay.

In fact, if it wasn't for these choices, the band may have fizzled out (as so many other bands have) as a result of not going in that direction. I think that the airplay gave the band a wider audience and, although the prevailing view is that being labeled a "ballad band" was a detriment, it couldn't have done that much damage if they're still touring.

Obviously, the music industry has changed over the years and if Chicago would have remained "true" to their roots, they may not have been able to survive as long as they have. I agree that they've experienced difficulty in selling new material, but the true fans value what the band has put out over the years. I don't know that many musicians start out with the goal of being a "Top 40" band, but that's not necessarily a negative means to an end. It's the Top 40 stuff that has kept the band alive and well in the eyes of the paying public and allows them to live the lifestyle that they have become accustomed to. Nothing wrong with that!!!

Lots of people love the classic Chicago songs and that's all part of their longevity. The fact that the band still fills venues; albeit not the arenas that they did in the past, is a testiment to their musical legacy. Speculation about what would have happened had they not deviated from their original innovations is wishful thinking at best. You can't rewrite history and fantasizing about what could have been can be fun, but I accept the band just as they are....warts and all!!

Posted by Carollugiano on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 10:18am


Reading back, I am jarred by the comment that Leonard Cohen "is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Chicago isn't!" That has nothing to do with the path chosen by Chicago and its "handlers" in my humble opinion. Obviously, there are plenty of artists in the RRHOF who are known ONLY because they were on the radio. That issue is way to tedious to waste on this board.

Posted by chinolefan on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 17:39pm


"Sam

If you were talking to me, I don't know what I wrote to make you think that I didn't know the Rolling Stones were in the Rock Hall. I know they are." Sorry about that Roy. I was not talking to you. This was the quote in question:

ON ANOTHER NOTE: WHAT ABOUT THE ROLLING STONES AND THE DO0BIE BROTHERS?

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS CIRCUS?

MJB...SEATTLE

Posted by MJB on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 14:46pm

I saw that and I wrote that people should do their homework before they come on here. I think I'd pick Deep Purple and T. Rex before the Doobie Brothers (part of that's logic and part of that's personal taste.)

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 03.9.10 @ 20:07pm


What makes a band legendary, IMHO, is that their music holds up over time. The Stones, the Beatles, so much of it could have been written last week or 40 years ago. That's what I enjoy about Chicago. Whether it be "Beginnings" or some of the songs on "Sublety & Passion", it still sounds good. And every band has some period in time when it wasn't what some of us wanted it to be. Looks at the crowds they attract to their shows, from age 14 to the AARP members. And the fans still keep coming back. Can we get past the "what they should have sounded like, or what they should have done" phase please? Judge them for their sound, influence, fans and lasting energy.

Just my thoughts.

Posted by Kathy on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 13:12pm


Who's Leonard Cohen? Without radio that's what we'd be saying about Chicago. Sorry to disagree but I knew very few "underground" types back in the day. My first taste of Chicago was hearing "Beginnings" on the radio. IMO Chicago took the correct career path.

Posted by Beginnings on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 15:40pm


Correct career path? are you kidding me? Why are they on shows like the Bachelor, skating specials??? thats not a band, thats a circus act that does whatever they can to make money, or to sneak their way into everyones tv sets since now they can't even get much radio play!!

I agree with the original post and what Danny said, they shoulda been loyal to their real fans, and themselves as musicians.

Suck ups don't get much praise, and they deserve to be in the position they're in.

All these inspiration/hard habit/ hard to say im sorry/80's lovers....we don't need you. That's not Chicago. Chicago didn't write those songs as a democracy, Chicago didn't even fully play those songs on album either. It's a disgrace.

Nuff said

Posted by geraci89 on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 15:41pm


I'm just ornery enough not to consider your comments as "nuff said" geraci89. The point is, it is YOUR opinion, and you are entitled to it, but your post is stated in a totally unacceptable manner. "Circus act?" Guess I must like the circus after all. As for the band "deserving" the position that they are in - I haven't heard a great deal of concern raised by any of the band members regarding their current position.

Posted by chinolefan on Thursday, 03.11.10 @ 18:03pm


I first saw Chicago at the Aire Crown theater and remember how they used to play for hours and played with an in-your-face attitude. Now is almost seems like they rent out the Chicago logo for dates, sometimes there seems to be more people that aren't in the band as there are members.

I have to give it to Robert, he is the only one with the commitment to the fans that is always with the band.

Just for comparison, listen to live versions of Free, Introduction, Dialogue or really any of the tunes from when the original band played and compare them to any live versions of the songs now. There is no comparison! The songs are so laid back and jazzy it could be elevator music.

And for those who say well the band is older now, listen to current music from Paul Rodgers, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, Robin Trower or many of the people who have been around for decades and still rock.

Posted by mja1951 on Friday, 03.12.10 @ 03:39am


Sadly..as like years gone by Chicago is again "forgotten" in the Hall of SHAME. As Terry said years ago "!F JAN"
Sadly they will never get in, sadly the idiots will pay to go there to see rappers and goofs.
The Chicago touring is not one tenth of the old Chicago..but.bottom line is this.Since 1995' we fans have been f-ed over and they have too!
Nomore $$ to cleveland and to this second rate full of shit Hall of Shame!

Posted by David Booth on Monday, 03.15.10 @ 19:09pm


"No band since Chicago has had a piano player, a drummer, two guitarists and three hornsmen."

Uh Roy, The Blues Brothers are holding on Line 1 for you.

Posted by Ralph on Thursday, 03.18.10 @ 09:25am


BOSTON HERALD

Omission accomplished

15 acts that should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

4. Chicago (eligible since 1994)

Chicago pioneered horn-fueled rock (along with Blood, Sweat & Tears, another band unjustly shut out of the Hall of Fame). You mean the 120 million records they’ve sold worldwide just isn’t enough? Guess not. Instead, we’re inducting ABBA. At this rate, KC and the Sunshine Band has a better shot of being inducted before powerhouse Chicago.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 03.15.10 @ 09:18am

First of all, if you're using sales as your reasoning, then why aren't you making a stand for Celine Dion, Journey, and lightweights such as the Backstreet Boys? (Rhetorical question.) Secondly, did you actually read that article you posted? I love Stevie Ray Vaughan, but there's no way you can convince me that he's the number one omission. Likewise, KISS should be in, just like Stevie, but if anyone believes that they're the biggest omission in their genre they're just uninformed. Ditto for Def Leppard and Heart. They say about Three Dog Night: "Lead singer Chuck Negron wrote the book on rock-star excess." I believe Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones would like a word with you. That's their 15th. 14: Heart. "How many kick-butt rock bands fronted by women have been inducted into the Hall of Fame? One: The Pretenders, in 2005." True, but from what I can tell The Runaways had the bigger influence on female rockers, and prior to The Runaways females singing about sex and excess and rocking just as hard as the guys was for the most part taboo, which is why they weren't as big as they should've been. #10: Dire Straits. I like Dire Straits, and Mark Knopfler is a fantastic guitarist, as they say, but they only make a case for them based on the music, which is nice but not enough. 9: Def Leppard. "Black Sabbath's already in, so let's give their latter-day Birmingham counterparts their due. Sabbath's Tony Iommi lost the tips of two fingers, but Rick Allen lost an arm and is still Def Leppard's drummer." (Screams, paces around the room breaking things.) As a Brit, I can say first that this lack of research destroys any credibility that the article might've had, as Def Leppard are from Sheffield, which is in the county of South Yorkshire, whereas Birmingham is in West Midlands county. They might have DL confused with Judas Priest, who are way ahead in the line. Where's T. Rex, Deep Purple, Priest, Iron Maiden, Joy Division, Alice Cooper, The Smiths, I could go on. It seems their list was put together based on personal taste rather than research or logic, but what do you expect from a Boston newspaper? Only kidding :) Go Yankees!

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 03.20.10 @ 17:40pm


If ever Chicago will be inducted, it's ONLY because of their body of work during the Terry Kath-era (some may call it the producer Guercio-era Columbia -era) from 1969-1977 or in terms of albums, from "Chicago Transit Authority" to "Chicago XI".
Honor should only be given to the seven original members and their original producer James William Guercio.

The seven original members who have made Chicago a legend are:

Terry Kath (guitar - vocals)
Robert Lamm (keyboards- vocals)
Peter Cetera (bass - vocals)
Danny Seraphine (drums)
James Pankow (trombone)
Lee Loughnane (trumpet, flugelhorn)
Walt Parazaider (woodwinds, flute)

Special mention:
Laudir de Oliveira (percussion)

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Thursday, 04.1.10 @ 16:52pm


Chicago's body of work from 1986- present is anemic compared to the legendary Terry Kath-era Chicago from 1969-1977. The middle period from 1978-1984 are very good in commercial terms.
My point is, the band's longevity has nothing to do with their induction chances. Some bands who have been inducted already were only together for a few years.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Thursday, 04.1.10 @ 16:56pm


I will repeat my previous post.

"Chicago's body of work from 1986- present is anemic compared to the legendary Terry Kath-era Chicago from 1969-1977. The middle period from 1978-1984 are very good in commercial terms.
My point is, the band's longevity has nothing to do with their induction chances. Some bands who have been inducted already were only together for a few years."

So, Champlin and specially Scheff don't deserve to be inducted together with the original 7. When they joined the band, they were no longer releasing important albums. Their album releases from the 90's to the present are mostly "best of" and "greatest hits" compilations.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Thursday, 04.8.10 @ 10:44am


Only those who were members while Terry Kath was alive should be inducted.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 04.8.10 @ 12:00pm


"They don't give a damn about any trumpet playing band. It ain't what they call rock and roll."

Posted by joker on Thursday, 04.8.10 @ 12:08pm


"They don't give a damn about any trumpet playing band. It ain't what they call rock and roll."

Posted by joker

Joker, you are too funny, bro

Posted by Jonny on Thursday, 04.8.10 @ 12:43pm


Champlin and Scheff has nothing to do with Chicago's body of work during their prolific years from 1969-1977 and these era is the ONLY reason why we are still talking about them.


Posted by AudiophilePhil on Saturday, 04.10.10 @ 14:27pm


Champlin and Scheff have nothing to do with Chicago's body of work during their prolific years from 1969-1977 and this era is the ONLY reason why we are still talking about them.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Saturday, 04.10.10 @ 14:28pm


People are still talking about Chicago not because of the songs "All Roads Lead To You" or "Look Away" but because of their body of work from the late 60's to the 70's.

People want Chicago to be inducted not because of the song "Bigger Than Elvis" or the album "XXX" but because of the album "CTA", "Chicago II" or the song "Beginnings" or "Saturday In The Park."

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Saturday, 04.10.10 @ 14:33pm


As I explained above, Champlin and Scheff does not deserve to be included if ever Chicago is inducted.

Only the original seven plus Guercio should be inducted as Chicago.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Saturday, 04.10.10 @ 14:50pm


As I explained above, Champlin and Scheff do not deserve to be included if ever Chicago is inducted.

Only the original seven plus Guercio should be inducted as Chicago.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Saturday, 04.10.10 @ 14:50pm


Chicago became a supergroup when Bill Champlin of Sons of Champlin joined them. The Rock Hall eats that kind of stuff up. You could say the same about when Laudir De Oliveira of Sergio Mendes joined Chicago even before Champlin. The Rock Hall likes inducting supergroups: Cream, Yardbirds, Buffalo Springfield, Crosby, Stills and Nash. If they inducted Terry Sylvester with The Hollies, I'm pretty sure they will induct Bill Champlin and Jason Scheff with Chicago. You'll be sure to see the Beatles, The Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys, the Bee-Gees, the Grateful Dead, Sons of Champlin, Sergio Mendes, Miles Davis, Blood, Sweat & Tears, Earth, Wind & Fire, Electric Flag, Tower of Power, Ten Wheel Drive, and Ides of March mentioned somewhere in Chicago's Rock Hall biography.

Posted by QAZ on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 08:21am


Who the Hell is Bill Champlin?!

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 12:28pm


Just ask Roy. He'll copy/paste a bio for you. Just don't expect any context and/or opinion.

Posted by Big Willie on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 13:56pm


Thinking about it, the first Jazz-Rock was done by The Doors on the album The Soft Parade, so technically Chicago weren't that innovative.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 19:39pm


The only reason why people are still discussing or talking about Chicago is because of their late 60's and 70's albums and singles.

Longevity does not guarantee induction.

When Champlin and Scheff joined Chicago, the band became a cover band or a "karaoke" band.

The original lineup of Chicago is the only reason why people want them to be inducted in the R&R Hall Of Fame.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 01:37am


Chicago has a chance for to be inducted to the R&R Hall Of Fame because of "Chicago Transit Authority", "Chicago II", "Chicago III", "Saturday In The Park" or "Chicago VII" and not because of "Will You Still Love Me" or "Look Away".

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 01:40am


Chicago's chances for induction in the R&R Hall Of Fame rest on the body of work from the late 60's and the 70's such as "Chicago Transit Authority", "Chicago II", "Chicago III", "Saturday In The Park" or "Chicago VII" and not because of "Will You Still Love Me" or "Look Away".
We have to face the reality that when Champlin and Scheff joined the band they became uncool.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 01:43am


Champlin and Scheff don't deserve to be inducted if ever the original Chicago lineup is inducted to the R&R Hall of Fame.

They have 'zero' contribution in Chicago's real legacy and body of work from the late 60's and the 70's. The body of work Chicago has made during the Terry Kath years (1969-1977) is more than enough to put the band in the R&R Hall of Fame. Actually it would have been bettter if they disbanded right afte Terrys's death. Continuing as a 'karaoke' band only harmed their reputation and their chances for induction.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Monday, 04.19.10 @ 11:45am


Would the band be upset if the person who is chosen to give the induction speech for Chicago decides to talk about everything and leaving nothing out: the good, the bad and the ugly? No sugarcoating, because this is Rock and Roll mthrfckrs! A real diehard fan.

EXAMPLES:

01. Talking about the Chicago logo, the album covers, numbering the albums instead of giving them names, the whole democracy/group as a whole thing and defending those decisions.

02. Talking about what critics have said about Chicago.

03. Talking about how Terry Kath died.

04. Talking about how and why Peter Cetera left Chicago and how Peter wanted a Phil Collins/Genesis relationship, but the band and the record company wouldn't have that.

05. Talking about the circumstances surrounding Danny Seraphine's departure from Chicago.

06. Talking about the cheesy 80s love balladry.

07. Talking about Chicago's early management and record company executives and how they forced Chicago to change their music style.

08. Saying its about fckng time!

Posted by RAKER on Monday, 04.26.10 @ 11:59am


Chicago blows!

Posted by Chemical ALI on Monday, 04.26.10 @ 12:02pm


Yea, they use horns.

Posted by Lepre_Khan on Monday, 04.26.10 @ 12:03pm


No, they just suck.

Posted by Chemical ALI on Monday, 04.26.10 @ 12:04pm


If ever Chicago is inducted to the Rock "N Roll Hall Of Fame , it's just becyase of their body of work from 1969-1977 nothing more nothing less.

Only the original seven plus Guercio and Laudir de Oliveira will be inducted.

I miss the original Chicago. Please YouTube video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-LoRtUB510&feature=related

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Wednesday, 04.28.10 @ 01:13am


If ever Chicago is inducted to the Rock 'N Roll Hall Of Fame , it's just because of their body of work from 1969-1977, nothing more nothing less.

Only the original seven plus Guercio and maybe Laudir de Oliveira will be inducted.

I miss the original Chicago. Please see the YouTube video below showing Terry Kath on lead guitar and lead vocals.

He smokes Stevie Ray Vaughan and Eric Clapton in both guitar playing and vocals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-LoRtUB510&feature=related

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Wednesday, 04.28.10 @ 01:17am


Hey Roy, you forgot guitarist Mick Taylor, a later member of the Rolling Stones. He was inducted too!

Posted by Asif on Wednesday, 04.28.10 @ 10:36am


Am I missing something here? When I read that Chicago was NOT in the RRHOF I thought I had bad information. But I looked it up and it’s true. Now I will grant you, the band they eventually became is a shadow of what they started out as,churning out some pretty sappy AM crap culminating in the pussy ballad “If You Leave Me Now”. But their first five or six albums fused rock and jazz in a way never heard before. I know Blood, Sweat & Tears did it before them but they just didn’t have staying power. Chicago’s early records were a staple of airplay in the late sixties and early seventies on free form FM radio. They eventually became a veritable hit machine. Billboard cites them as the second most successful American band after the Beach Boys. I admit that their best music was at the beginning of their career and if you drew a chart of their rock quotient, it would probably be a straight line down. Still they have longevity and success. I think they should be in.

Posted by Baba Booey on Wednesday, 04.28.10 @ 13:51pm


What did Patti Smith or the Dave Clark Five do that is better than 25 or 6-2-4 or Beginnings? Glad All Over? Excuse me? Chicago should have been inducted its first year. Right now this site shows them as 9% chance of induction. Every year Chicago isn't inducted, the credibility of the R&RHOF goes down.

Posted by Indy Steve on Saturday, 05.1.10 @ 22:23pm


The Dave Clark Five were part of the original "British Invasion", were giving the Beatles a run for their money for a bit popularity-wise, and at the time were considered better than the Stones (anyone who says otherwise obviously wasn't alive during that time).

Now, will someone tell me how Chicago was so influential and innovative (DC Five also had a sax player...FYI)...???

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.2.10 @ 08:54am


Per the criteria set forth by the Hall of Fame...THAT is no reason to induct them. Once again, what innovation and influence did they have? From my vantage point (having grown up in their heyday, I might add) they were just kinda THERE, know what I mean...????

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.2.10 @ 14:26pm


Yep. As I pointed out (though everyone conveniently chose to overlook it), The Doors were actually the first to do Jazz-Rock on the "Soft Parade" album (you know, like that song "Touch Me" that gets heavy play on classic rock radio.) So, technically, neither Chicago or Blood, Sweat & Tears can be given credit for innovation. Gitarzan's defense of DC5 seemed reasonable, and... Since I haven't really listened to Patti Smith I can't defend that choice knowledgeably, but she apparently has had an influence on some of the punk that's followed and was one of the first CBGB performers. My guess would be that some of the female Punks that followed her were influenced by her, and she was an inspiration to a little band called R.E.M. (you may have heard of them.) However, even as one of her biggest critics, Dameon pointed out way up above on this page that she is now in so there's no point in discussing her. If you really did have a strong argument you wouldn't need to bring inducted artists into the discussion. I know I don't need to.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 05.2.10 @ 20:20pm


Well that might be what's keeping them out. If they're having trouble with it they just should induct the original lineup, right? That might be what's stopping them from even nominating Deep Purple, because I know they've got every bit of criteria down.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 05.4.10 @ 21:20pm


"Once an artist (group) is selected for induction, a separate committee oversees who is inducted in the group. Relevant factors are who started the group and who played on the songs that had the greatest impact and created the legacy of that group. To speculate about this relative to Chicago at this point is just not possible."

1. Who started Chicago?

Danny Seraphine
Walter Parazaider
Terry Kath
Lee Loughnane
James Pankow
Robert Lamm
Peter Cetera

2. What songs that had the greatest impact and created the legacy of that group?

"25 Or 6 To 4"
"Make Me Smile"
"Beginnings"
"Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?"
"Saturday In The Park"
"Questions 67 & 68"
"I'm A Man"
"Feelin' Stronger Everyday"
"If You Leave Me Now"
"Old Days"
"(I've Been) Searchin' So Long"
"Call On Me"
"Wishing You Were Here"
"Dialogue Part 1 and Part 2"
"Free"
"Just You 'N Me"

3. Who played on these songs?

Robert Lamm (keyboards, vocals, songwriter)
James Pankow (trombone, songwriting)
Terry Kath (guitar, vocals)
Peter Cetera (bass, vocals, songwriting)
Danny Seraphone (drums)
Lee Loughnane (trumpet, songwriting)
Walt Parazaider (woodwinds, flute)

and

Laudir de Oliceira (percussions)

4. Recognition should also given to their original producer:

James William Guercio

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Thursday, 05.6.10 @ 12:41pm


What members of Chicago should be inducted?

This is very easy to figure out. I've been pointing this out several times in all my previous posts.

"Once an artist (group) is selected for induction, a separate committee oversees who is inducted in the group. Relevant factors are who started the group and who played on the songs that had the greatest impact and created the legacy of that group.


1. Who started Chicago?

Danny Seraphine
Walter Parazaider
Terry Kath
Lee Loughnane
James Pankow
Robert Lamm
Peter Cetera

2. What songs that had the greatest impact and created the legacy of that group?

"25 Or 6 To 4"
"Make Me Smile"
"Beginnings"
"Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?"
"Saturday In The Park"
"Questions 67 & 68"
"I'm A Man"
"Feelin' Stronger Everyday"
"If You Leave Me Now"
"Old Days"
"(I've Been) Searchin' So Long"
"Call On Me"
"Wishing You Were Here"
"Dialogue Part 1 and Part 2"
"Free"
"Just You 'N Me"

3. Who played on these songs?

Robert Lamm (keyboards, vocals, songwriter)
James Pankow (trombone, songwriting)
Terry Kath (guitar, vocals)
Peter Cetera (bass, vocals, songwriting)
Danny Seraphone (drums)
Lee Loughnane (trumpet, songwriting)
Walt Parazaider (woodwinds, flute)

and

Laudir de Oliceira (percussions)

4. Recognition should also given to their original producer:

James William Guercio

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Thursday, 05.6.10 @ 12:46pm


Correction

Oliveira not Oliceira

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Thursday, 05.6.10 @ 12:49pm


5. What albums that had the greatest impact and created the legacy of that group?

"Chicago Transit Authority" (1969)
"Chicago" (1970) aka "Chicago II"
"Chicago III" (1971)
"Chicago V" (1972)
"Chicago VII" (1974)
"Chicago IX - Greatest Hits" (1975)
"Chicago At Carnegie Hall" (1971)
"Chicago VI" (1973)
"Chicago XI" (1977)
"Chicago X" (1976)
"Chicago VIII" (1975)

The first album "Chicago Transit Authority" is included in the two books that list albums that everyone should hear before he or she dies.
It is also among the top selling albums from the 60's with at least 2 million copies.

All of the albums I listed above (first eleven albums) went platinum in the Billboard album chart. All of these albums featured the late great Terry Kath with his very innovative guitar playing.

They had five (5) consecutive No. 1 albums on the Billboard chart from 1972 to 1975. These albums are:

"Chicago V" (1972)
"Chicago VI" (1973)
"Chicago VII" (1974)
"Chicago VIII" (1975)
"Chicago IX - Greatest Hits" (1975)

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Thursday, 05.6.10 @ 13:13pm


"You're the Inspiration" is pretty wimpy I must say.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 05.6.10 @ 21:57pm


"My Rock Hall speech for Chicago is coming soon!"

Those wimpy Chicago ballads in the 80's and 90's should not be mentioned at all when trying to convince the Hall of Fame committee to induct them.
Those post Terry Kath ballads (80's, 90's, 2000's)have tarnished the legacy of the original band and kept them from being inducted.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Thursday, 05.6.10 @ 23:53pm


Question #6. What were the years when Chicago created their most important legacy?

Answer: 1969-1977

Question #7. Who were the members of Chicago from their most important years as a group 1969-1977?

Danny Seraphine (drums, songwriter)
Walter Parazaider (woodwinds, flute)
Terry Kath (guitar, main vocals, songwriter)
Lee Loughnane (trumpet, flugelhorn,songwriter, vocals)
James Pankow (trombone,vocals)
Robert Lamm (keyboards, main vocals, songwriter)
Peter Cetera (bass, main vocals, songwriter)

and

Laudir de Oliveira (percussions)

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Saturday, 05.8.10 @ 01:29am


That writer is misinformed.

Peter Cetera was already with Chicago starting with their very first album "The Chicago Transit Authority" (1969).

He was an underappreciated melodic bass player and has a very distinctive soaring tenor voice that's more suited to rock numbers than ballads.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Sunday, 05.9.10 @ 18:30pm


"You're The Inspiration" (1984) and "Along Comes A Woman" (1984) are two Cetera songs that were written and recorded when Chicago was already over the hill or past their prime.

Their prime was in the late 60's and the 70's.

If you really want Chicago to be inducted in the R&R Hall of Fame, you should only mention their real legacy from the late 60's to the 70's.
Mentioning their 80's output without Terry Kath as guitarist and Guercio as producer is useless.

Mentioning the later members (1982-present) would not help them get inducted and would even harm their real legacy because these later members were not with the group when Chicago was in its prime from 1969-1977.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Sunday, 05.9.10 @ 18:45pm


Chicago's real legacy from the late 60's to the 70's is more than enough to qualify them for induction into the R&R Hall of Fame.

What the new members (1982-present)have done is to transform Chicago into a "karaoke" band.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Sunday, 05.9.10 @ 19:03pm


What members of Chicago should be inducted?

This is very easy to figure out. I've been pointing this out several times in all my previous posts.

"Once an artist (group) is selected for induction, a separate committee oversees who is inducted in the group. Relevant factors are who started the group and who played on the songs that had the greatest impact and created the legacy of that group.


Question #1. Who started Chicago?

Danny Seraphine
Walter Parazaider
Terry Kath
Lee Loughnane
James Pankow
Robert Lamm
Peter Cetera

Question #2. What songs that had the greatest impact and created the legacy of that group?

"25 Or 6 To 4"
"Make Me Smile"
"Beginnings"
"Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?"
"Saturday In The Park"
"Questions 67 & 68"
"I'm A Man"
"Feelin' Stronger Everyday"
"If You Leave Me Now"
"Old Days"
"(I've Been) Searchin' So Long"
"Call On Me"
"Wishing You Were Here"
"Dialogue Part 1 and Part 2"
"Free"
"Just You 'N Me"

Question #3. Who played on these songs?

Robert Lamm (keyboards, vocals, songwriter)
James Pankow (trombone, songwriting)
Terry Kath (guitar, vocals)
Peter Cetera (bass, vocals, songwriting)
Danny Seraphone (drums)
Lee Loughnane (trumpet, songwriting)
Walt Parazaider (woodwinds, flute)

and

Laudir de Oliveira (percussions)

Question #4. Recognition should also be given to their original producer:

James William Guercio

Question #5. What albums that had the greatest impact and created the legacy of that group?

"Chicago Transit Authority" (1969)
"Chicago" (1970) aka "Chicago II"
"Chicago III" (1971)
"Chicago V" (1972)
"Chicago VII" (1974)
"Chicago IX - Greatest Hits" (1975)
"Chicago At Carnegie Hall" (1971)
"Chicago VI" (1973)
"Chicago XI" (1977)
"Chicago X" (1976)
"Chicago VIII" (1975)

The first album "Chicago Transit Authority" is included in the two books that list albums that everyone should hear before he or she dies.
It is also among the top selling albums from the 60's with at least 2 million copies.

All of the albums I listed above (first eleven albums) went platinum in the Billboard album chart. All of these albums featured the late great Terry Kath with his very innovative guitar playing.

They had five (5) consecutive No. 1 albums on the Billboard chart from 1972 to 1975. These albums are:

"Chicago V" (1972)
"Chicago VI" (1973)
"Chicago VII" (1974)
"Chicago VIII" (1975)
"Chicago IX - Greatest Hits" (1975)

Question #6. What were the years when Chicago created their most important legacy?

Answer: 1969-1977

Question #7. Who were the members of Chicago from their most important years as a group 1969-1977?

Danny Seraphine (drums, songwriter)
Walter Parazaider (woodwinds, flute)
Terry Kath (guitar, main vocals, songwriter)
Lee Loughnane (trumpet, flugelhorn,songwriter, vocals)
James Pankow (trombone,vocals)
Robert Lamm (keyboards, main vocals, songwriter)
Peter Cetera (bass, main vocals, songwriter)

and

Laudir de Oliveira (percussions)

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 09:45am


I am going to have to agree with AudiophilePhil on the whole who should be included if Chicago ever gets inducted. The one thing that Roy has going for him is the recent example of Metallica. They included everyone that ever recorded on an album. This included their newest bass player, Robert Trujillo, who joined the band in 2003 and only played on their newest album 'Death Magnetic'.

Posted by Gassman on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 10:41am


The DC5 used studio musicians or session players in most of their studio recordings.

On the other hand, Chicago's members all played their own instruments in the studio without any help from session or outside musicians. They also sang their vocal parts without any help from guest vocalists.

So, tell me who deserves to be inducted to the R&R Hall of Fame, Chicago or DC5?

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 14:28pm


Why don't you name these "studio musicians" that the Dave Clark Five used and what songs they were used on (also, back it up with proof). I can't say that I ever heard that about them. In Chicago's case, they've had such a revolving door of musicians it's hard to tell who was actually a member and who was a "sub".

Quit comparing and downgrading other artists to bolster Chicago...if they can't stand on their own merits, then they probably won't get inducted, anyway (which, at this point in time, seems to be the case)...

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 20:22pm


I agree with Gitarzan... try and just talk about Chicago, and you'll be taken more seriously.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 21:54pm


I am new to the forum.. I love Chicago an DC5 who cares who played on their stuff it sounds great!the more musicans the better....

Posted by X15 on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 22:02pm


Tarzan, you are ignorant about Chicago. From 1969-1973, they only had seven members.

Their personnel remained intact from 1969-1977 until Terry Kath's death in early 1978. In this regard, they were like the Beatles with a horn section.

The only change in their lineup was the addition of the Brazilian percussionist in late 1974 and he eventually became a full-time member.

Where did you get the idea that they were using sub? If you referring to the current incarnation of Chicago that became a 'karaoke' band, you are right.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Tuesday, 05.11.10 @ 10:41am


Ignorant????? I'd rather be ignorant than clueless!!! As far as I'm concerned the essence of Chicago...their heart and soul...died with Terry Kath (who, by the way, was one of my favorite players). Since then, their music for the most part has been so syrupy that it'll make your teeth rot listening to it, and let's face it, their line-up has been a revolving door for a number of years. they still tour, year after year, trying to pawn themselves off as "Chicago", where in reality they are a caricature of what they once were. they're as bad as the Beach Boys, and every time they walk on stage now they further tarnish their legacy, To that band Terry Kath was irreplacable...period.

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 05.11.10 @ 18:58pm


So we both agree that Chicago's heart and soul died when Terry Kath died in 1978.
Terry Kath has remained as one of my favourite guitarists and vocalists of all time and the Terry Kath-era Chicago was one of my favourite bands of the rock era.
There's no disagreement here as we both like the original band.
I have to tell you also that I hate the current Chicago and I agree with you that the new lineup has tarnished the band's legacy from 1969-1977.

In my previous posts, I was pointing out that if ever they will be inducted in the R&R Hall of Fame, only the seven original members deserve to be inducted plus the original producer Guercio and theor percussionist Laudir de Oliveira.

What I don't understand is why you are telling Roy that Chicago does not deserve to be inducted.

Are you referring to the original Terry Kath-era Chicago or the current 'karaoke' version of the band?

IMHO, the Terry Kath-era Chicago deserve to be in the R&R Hall of Fame.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Wednesday, 05.12.10 @ 03:32am


I agree with Gitarzan's comments up above regarding Terry Kath. The band should have broken up when he died, IMO.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 05.12.10 @ 05:56am


We're on the same page Tarzan and Paul.
Chicago should have disbanded after Terry Kath's death in 1978 and therefore preserved their legacy.

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Wednesday, 05.12.10 @ 10:45am


Roy you better stop mentioning any post Terry Kath Chicago videos, albums, or even members. You are just hurting Chicago's chances to be inducted in the R&R Hall Of Fame. You cannot ignore them but they should only be mentioned in passing.

Chicago Music Videos that are worth seeing are those of the original band from the 70's such as "At The Rockies" (1973), "Meanwhile Back At The Ranch" (1974), "Rockin' New Years Eve" (1975) and their concert videos when the original band performed in Germany (1977).

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Wednesday, 05.26.10 @ 17:11pm


I see where AudiophilePhil is coming from simply because of the wimpiness of "Your the Inspiration".

Posted by Sam on Friday, 05.28.10 @ 19:00pm


Dude, you've really lost it this time.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 14:00pm


Philip...I'm also expecting an alien invasion, a visitor from the future (I wonder why they haven't come back up to this point), and people to have an intelligent conversation on the Steve Perry and Bon Jovi pages...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 14:12pm


Reading Roy's posts makes Alcoa's stock jump, especially with their newly announced line of fashionable headgear.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 14:16pm


Steve Perry and Bon Jovi ! Yikes!

Posted by AudiophilePhil on Monday, 05.31.10 @ 11:50am


Now you are really losing it. I guess the fate of that entire conspiracy depends on the outcome of the Stanley Cup. And I thought the Backstreet Boys page was bad.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 05.31.10 @ 20:41pm


"Most of what passes today as 'music' is really just 1 note repeated in a synthesized blend of reverberated echo style vocals." - SG

What a load of bollocks. There's some great albums that I've heard from the 2000's that say otherwise. Clearly you're not looking hard enough. Anyway, most of the important music during the 1980s was by artists from the 60s and 70s who were still making albums.


"Actual acoustical musical instruments are virtually unheard on commercial radio." - SG

First, on my local rock radio station there's a cover of "Simple Man" completely acoustic that's played quite often. Second, don't John Mayer and Dave Matthews use plenty of acoustic guitars? Third, mainstream radio is quite often not the best place to find new music.

"Most public schools today don't teach much music education and the ones that do are declining in number at a fairly rapid pace."

It's true that quite a few schools are cutting back on music now, but we're in a recession, so we have to do something. My sister plays saxophone so she's getting plenty of music.

"Thus if a young person was played a song like 'Color My World' they would start convulsing into a state of sensory overload-not knowing how to process this information." - SG

I don't know how you plan to prove that it's true for all of them, and I know plenty of young people who are musically well-adjusted (albeit plenty of them listen to plenty of crap.) As for the artistic integrity thing, thrash metal made a brief splash in the mainstream without catering to trends. Not to mention Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, R.E.M. U2, Blur, Suede, Oasis, Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, New Order (actually an outgrowth of Joy Division) and The Libertines... that's a shortlist of bands who made the jump into the mainstream in either the US or the UK (or both) without sacrificing too much of their initial sound (and in some cases none of their sound), without conforming to public tastes or doing anything they didn't want to do (with the exception of Blur, who kind of started out aping the Mancester scene but then got even bigger and more critical acclaim once they developed their multiple identities.) I understand the sentiment that the charts are in awful shape; in fact, I share it. However, maybe if some of the old people were capable of pulling away from the radio they'd find some great music around them.

"Anyway, most of the important music during the 1980s was by artists from the 60s and 70s who were still making albums."

If by artists from the 60's and 70's you mean artists who's first albums were in the 60's and 70's then not even close. To make such a statement displays a lack of knowledge of the 80's.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 06.8.10 @ 20:34pm


*cuckoo clock chimes for midnight*


Posted by Philip on Thursday, 06.10.10 @ 11:34am


"...And now, Peter Cetera will be giving the induction speech and performance for David Foster at the 2010 Songwriters Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 06.11.10 @ 12:13pm"


...and it still doesn't make Chicago a Hall of Fame band.

Posted by Joe Six String on Friday, 06.11.10 @ 12:32pm


I can't wait to see which artists from the 50s, 60s and 70s get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame after Chicago gets inducted!

Posted by 6996 on Tuesday, 06.22.10 @ 14:52pm


THE TOP 4 CHARTING ROCK AND ROLL BANDS OF ALL TIME ON BILLBOARD

01. The Beatles
02. The Rolling Stones
03. The Beach Boys
04. Chicago

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.2.10 @ 14:17pm

Hey Roy

The difference between Chicago and those 3 other bands is that those 3 other bands still sell millions of records and they still chart high in the Top 10 on Billboard, if not number 1, whenever their record company releases a greatest hits or rarities album. In the Rolling Stones case, they still produce and chart new music. Don't expect Chicago to hold that number 4 position forever. The Bee-Gees are falling too! Be on the look out for the Grateful Dead and Aerosmith. They could still surpass Chicago! The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and The Beach Boys will hold those number 1, 2, and 3 positions forever!!!

Chicago's last 10 charting albums:

21. 1991 - # 66 Twenty 1
22. 1995 - # 90 Night and Day
23. 1997 - # 55 The Heart of Chicago 1967-1997
24. 1998 - # 154 The Heart of Chicago II 1967-1998
25. 1998 - # 47 Chicago's First Christmas
26. 2002 - # 38 The Very Best of Chicago: Only the Beginning
27. 2003 - # 116 Christmas: What's It Gonna Be Santa?
28. 2005 - # 57 Love Songs
29. 2006 - # 41 Chicago XXX
30. 2007 - # 100 The Best of Chicago: 40th Anniversary Edition
31. 2008 - # 122 Chicago XXXII: Stone of Sisyphus

That's very low!!

Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and the Beach Boys have each been with the same record company for their entire career, while Chicago has gone from CBS/Columbia, to Warner Brothers, to Reprise, to Chicago Records, to Rhino, and currently no label at all wants them or any new material from them. Chicago is currently working on a new Christmas album to be released in 2011 on Robert Lamm's independent label, Blue Infinity, and it will most likely be available only for download on the internet according to Chicago's official site. The band has also stated that they won't be writing anymore new material. Kiss BILLBOARD goodbye! Goodnight Chicago! It's been a great 45 years!

Posted by 6996 on Friday, 07.9.10 @ 17:49pm


I just saw these guys at the Jones BEach Theater last nignt.

It is an absolute travesty they are not already in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Clearly they rival the Eagles, Beatles, Beach Boys and Stones as one of the greatest harmony gorups of all time, not to mention thei inovatoive use of horn instruements, blended with other traditional rock sounds.

Not having these guys in the hall of fame is equivalent to keeping Pete Rose out of the Baseball Hall of Fame based on talent.

And another thing, Bill Joel should be in the top 100 artists list by Rolling Stone. Please tell me how friggin Kurt Cobain gets raked in the top 50 and they leave out Billy Joel??????

Posted by NYFAN001 on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 10:24am


Will say it again. It is an absolute discrace Chicago is in already in the Hall of Fame.

It is all political. Jan Wenner keeps them out for personnel reasons????

Billy Joel bashed the Rolling Stone 30 year ago when the said his album at the time was too commerial. He did not play well in the sandbox politically with the Rolling Stone, and gee, what a surprise he is not in theor top 100 list.

Music like any industry or job is highly poitical. If you burn bridges on a job, you may get blacklisted in the profession for the rest of your life.

Posted by NYFAN001 on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 10:35am


One thing I don't get.

One of the criteria for the Hall of Fame is someone who brought innovation to Rock n Roll.

Chicago brought the brilliant use of horns into traditional rock instruments. Not to mention all of their hits and great song writing.

I think Bill Joel and Chicago suffer from the same stigma with the Rolling Stone and the Hall. They were considered too popish, and not cutting edge.

It pisses me off when someone like Curt Cobain gets ranked higher tham these guys. Cobain can't shine Chicago's shoes.

Posted by NYFAN001 on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 10:42am


"Chicago brought the brilliant use of horns into traditional rock instruments. Not to mention all of their hits and great song writing."- NYFAN001

The use of horns in rock & roll started way before Chicago came along...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 07.11.10 @ 10:45am


How many times have you copy/pasted that same bio?

Posted by amazon on Monday, 08.23.10 @ 07:36am


In response to those who have poined out BS&T and The Doors in oppositon to Chicago's innovation, I don't think you should discredit one groups contributions because someone else did it first. You wouldn't discredit Black Sabbath's contribuitons to metal beacuse The Beatles and Iron Butterfly did it first would you (with Helter Skelter and In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida respectively). Chicago definitely pushed the boundaries for jazz rock but deftly blending jazz, hard rock, adult comtemporary and even a little R&B to create a totally unique sound. That should count as innovation, especially since The Doors and BS&T didn't experiment with jazz rock the same way either.

Posted by Jimbo on Thursday, 09.9.10 @ 17:44pm


Happy 66th Birthday, Peter Cetera, Baby What A Big Surprise.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Monday, 09.13.10 @ 14:13pm


My induction speech for Chicago, coming this week!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 09.13.10 @ 12:29pm

Oh goody, I can`t wait for the madness!

Posted by Qaz on Sunday, 09.19.10 @ 06:41am


They will wait until most of the members are dead before they induct them just like they did with the Dave Clark Five.

Posted by Cathy on Sunday, 09.26.10 @ 12:00pm


The Top 5 of artists who started out fairly decent and then jumped the shark big time:

5) Kenny Rogers
4) Lenny Kravitz
3) UB 40
2) Sting
1) Chicago

If they'd left us then, before 1976 (you know what record I'm talking about), I wouldn't exactly object to their induction. But as it is, they should be rather put under quarantine.

Posted by Rob Fleming on Sunday, 09.26.10 @ 17:56pm


The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will remain incomplete without this classic rock band.
Incredible brass influenced sound, mega hits, and over 40 years of staying power. What more do the Hall voters need??

Posted by John K on Tuesday, 09.28.10 @ 16:05pm


The band is still fantastic.Magnificent musicians and in te sixties years, they played a strong rock 'roll. Songs like "I'm a man", "Make me smile", "25 or 68", "Free", "Beginnings" and many , many others show it.Chicago should have been in years ago. Five different lead singers. The horns, oh lord...fantastic,mixed with guitar, arrangements...James Pankow- God blees you.Please include them now.


Posted by jose gaspar Ramos on Tuesday, 09.28.10 @ 21:42pm


The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will always be a joke until Chicago and the Doobie Brothers get in. They became eligible in 1994 and 1996, respectively. Unbelieveable to me....

Posted by Jeff on Wednesday, 09.29.10 @ 11:39am


http://board.petercetera.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6333

A hypothetical conversation between Peter Cetera & Phil Collins.

Peter : " Hey Phil, how are you doing ?"
Phil : " Great Peter, and yourself?"
Peter : " Doing great. I have a symphony gig going on, an electric band of "Bad Daddies" too
and I'm also going on tour with my old buddy David Foster and friends."
Phil : " I'm still hanging out with my chaps from Genesis and I'm also doing the solo thing
and releasing some solo work CD's."
Peter : "Wait a minute..... you mean you STILL play with the guys in Genesis AND they
give you an opportunity to release solo stuff? Wow, how cool that would be.
I wish I knew some understanding guys like your boys in Genesis."
Phil : "Hey Peter , not to change the subject but I was thinking... maybe you and me
should remake my hit song "Easy Lover". You remember that tune don't you?
It was my duet with Phillip Bailey from Earth Wind & Fire."
Peter: "Yeah , great song. Besides, I owe Phillip Bailey one since he sang "If You Leave
Me Now" for 2 years while touring with my old mates. That song is my baby, my first # 1 hit!"
Phil : " Great. I'll have my people talk to your people and maybe we can set something up."
Peter : "Sounds great. Nice seeing you again Phil. Say hello to the guys in Genesis for me."
Phil: " Great seeing you again Peter. Say hello to the guys..... what the hell am I saying? Take care."

Posted by 6996 on Sunday, 10.3.10 @ 20:53pm


For, I don't know, the 167th time, chart success is not a major factor in terms of induction. :-) A number of inductees have had it, but that was gravy for them. (Not sure where that list is from, anyhow, as Billboard hasn't had a list- at least in recent times- combining albums and singles performance).

I'm telling you that Chicago's slick, 80s-on material may have left a bad taste in the mouths of HOF committee members, so don't continue to be surprised to see the committee snub the group.

Posted by JR on Sunday, 10.10.10 @ 06:53am


Number of posts: 489
Number of posts by Roy: 191 (and counting)
Number of posts by Roy in the past year: an even 100.
Number of times Roy has made 4 or more consecutive posts: 6

Posted by Teller on Monday, 10.11.10 @ 14:44pm


While the snubbing of all-time great artists like Yes, Rush, and the Moody Blues, not to mention artists not even mentioned here like the Doobie Brothers, is incredible, the most outrageous omission is Chicago. True, although they were the most popular American band in the 70's and had continued success in the 80's, and "popularity" is not supposed to factor into the RnRHOF equation (allegedly), Chicago was innovative with their unique blend of rock, jazz, r&b and pop fuled by the greatest horn section in history. Not influential? Any musician who lived through Chicago's prime 70's era knows differntly, as numerous musicians who went on to pursue their craft and "perpetuate" the genre of rock music were inspired and influenced by this amazing band of seven incredible pro musicians/ singers. Oh, I forgot. The clowns that vote for this Hall of Fame sham are writers, not musicians.

Posted by tac239 on Friday, 10.15.10 @ 19:21pm


According to Billboard Magazine's Hot 50th Anniversary Top 100 artists, Chicago is now tops among all the American bands, at 13.

Among the bands or groups, only the Bee Gees, Paul McCartney & Wings, Rolling Stones and The Bealtes are ahead of them.

These guys still rule!!!

Posted by Larry Launstein Jr on Friday, 10.29.10 @ 14:33pm


Not much I can add here other than to say that Chicago pretty much dominated either rock or adult contemporary radio for large parts of the late 60's, going into the early 90's. To have that type of longevity, albeit without the critical respect of The Stones and the like, and to put out quality material with great musicianship makes them a more than deserving choice. I wasn't aware of the Jann Wenner grudge issue, and that may well keep them out, but taken song for song, hit for hit, decade by decade, this is a no brainer!

Posted by David Balzano on Saturday, 11.13.10 @ 08:33am


We get it roy, they have horns.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 11.20.10 @ 09:44am


I can understand (trying to be objective) why they might struggle with Chicago, Yes, Journey, and the Doobies – WHICH members get inducted? For example, the current members of Chicago haven't contributed much beyond be "replacements", but are considered "official" members. Past Chicago member Bill Champlin certainly deserves to be inducted, because he brought something original to the band. But does Jason Scheff, Peter Cetera's replacement? He sang on a couple minor hits, and did nothing to innovate.

Posted by Vince on Monday, 11.22.10 @ 06:41am


I'm just double posting the way Roy does!

Hey Roy, here's one for you...

In recent years, Van Halen has toured with both David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar together at the same time. David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar have also toured together without the rest of Van Halen.

Chicago has yet to tour with both Peter Cetera and Jason Scheff together at the same time. Peter Cetera and Jason Scheff have not toured together without the rest of Chicago.

Posted by 6996 on Tuesday, 11.23.10 @ 09:11am


Chicago is the biggest Rock Hall snub ever!

Posted by Airport Hospital on Tuesday, 11.30.10 @ 13:26pm


"Chicago is the biggest Rock Hall snub ever!"

Not really.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 12.1.10 @ 16:48pm


And how exactly did you figure this out?

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 12.18.10 @ 05:44am


Chicago Where and are a magnificent band !

Jimi Hendrix rated the Late Great Terry Kath as a phenominal guitarist.

later guitarists like Donnie Dacus (also in Steve Stills band), Chris Pinnick, DaWayne Bailey & now Keith howland are all tremendous axemen as well....not forgetting friends like Michael Landau & Toto's Steve Lukather who guested with the band.

Robert Lamm is a tremendous songwriter.

Peter Cetera a memorable Lead vocalist and girted songwriter too.

The Brass section of Jimmy Pankow, Lee Loughnane & Walter Parazaider are instantly recognisable...

Danny Seraphene was a brilliant Drummer

Later recruits such as Bill Champlin & Jason Scheff (son of Elvis' Bass player Jerry) duly added their own distinctive input in songs, playing & vocalising, making them a part of the band's history as well.

The band let their music do the talking for them, being one of the most professional outfits in a tremendously long career selling zillions of records....

they recorded in many differing styles, from Jazz-Rock, Jazz, Rock, Pop ballads, etc....ranging from Improvisational long pieces, Protest songs, social comment songs,to short memorable love songs and funkier type items etc...

there is 'something for everyone' in Chicago's back catalogue...if people put aside prejudices & just.... 'Listen'

add to that their great Charity work, their work for young aspiring Musicians, work to promote both their city & country, their work on fellow artists records, their sheer scale of records & concert tickets sold worldwide, together with tremendous creative output in a career stretching back to the mid sixties as 'Chicago Transit Authority' ....

...and their continued omission from the hall of Fame seems Laughable if it were not so utterly embarressing...
(rather like those pompous Hollywood film bods 'forgetting' to give Iconic Actors like say John Wayne and Henry Fonda etc, an Oscar for many years eh ?)

The Hall of Fame committee should wake up....!

Posted by Rob on Friday, 12.24.10 @ 12:49pm


"The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Crosby, Stills and Nash, The Jackson Five, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, The (Young) Rascals, Queen, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Talking Heads, The Ramones, AC/DC, The Clash, The Police, Traffic, ZZ Top, Elvis Costello & The Attractions, The Pretenders, The O'Jays, Blondie, Black Sabbath, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Genesis, The Hollies, The Stooges, Alice Cooper, Neil Diamond, Jeff Beck, Leonard Cohen, Patti Smith, Paul Simon, Bonnie Raitt, Eric Clapton, Neil Young, James Taylor, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, David Bowie, Rod Stewart, Elton John"

How do you know that? By the way, Bowie doesn't care about the Hall. I'm pretty sure he didn't attend his induction.

"Van Halen, R.E.M., U2, John Mellencamp, Madonna and Metallica are fans of Chicago"

This Van Halen, R.E.M., U2 and Metallica fan would like to know where you found that out.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 12.31.10 @ 05:47am


I'm an Elton John fan and I loathe Chicago.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 01.10.11 @ 19:55pm


Chicago's use of brass/woodwinds was like no other band. They took what is called a "melodic" approach to the horns versus a "harmonic" approach. The horns actually acted as an additional vocal line, not just performing fill rifts. This is what was innovative about Chicago. And to boot...the fact that their first 7 albums were all double disks is a feat that no other band that I am aware of has ever attempted. Despite the 2-albums (higher costs to buy) they still managed to sell truckloads of them. According to some sources, Chicago has managed to chart an album in the Top 40 in five different decades. Who else has done that?
As far as the type of music they play...rock/jazz/pop...the fact that Jimi Hendrix was put on tour with them is an idication that they were considered "rock n roll" at the time they emerged on the scene.
Chicago is very deserving of a Hall of Fame induction. I didn't even touch on the number of hits, platinum records, total records sold (+100 Million)as a factor to consider. Those stats are available online.

Posted by Steve on Tuesday, 01.11.11 @ 07:33am


Many people have gotten albums into the top 40 over 5 decades. It's not that amazing.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 01.11.11 @ 09:38am


My guess is only the elite have done so (Beatles, Stones, Elvis, Elton and the like). When AC/DC and Aerosmith release new albums (which they probably will at some point) then they'll join that group. I don't know for sure, but I'd guess it's not that common.

Oh and Roy, I don't know what you're getting at. I asked you how you know that all those people will vote for Chicago, and you said the same thing again, plus you said that if you like Elton John you like Chicago. You're avoiding the question.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 01.11.11 @ 14:38pm


Roy, you've posted it already. How many times are you gonna keep re-posting it?

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 01.13.11 @ 18:53pm


Nice writeup, Roy. Hope they get inducted some day (Terry Kath years only).

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 01.14.11 @ 06:40am


I'm finished now! You won't hear from me again until Chicago is inducted!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01.13.11 @ 18:58pm

i thought you're done.

Posted by attention deficit disorder on Sunday, 01.16.11 @ 23:20pm


Considering the speeches are normally, from what i've seen, around 2 -4 minutes yeah that wouldn't fly.
also, hootin all up in this bitch.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 01.17.11 @ 11:06am


25 minutes still sems to be a lot...

Posted by GFW on Monday, 01.17.11 @ 11:41am


2008 was a great ceremony... yeah Billy Joel and Tom Hanks had long speeches, but theirs were GOOD because they were never boring. JT tried to be funny and failed miserably, that it got painfully long. Lou Reed was just fricken unrehearsed and took up extra time as a result. The DC5 members' speeches weren't that long though.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 01.17.11 @ 13:08pm


Roy is the Brett Farve of Future Rock Hall. The joke may be old, but just sayin....

Posted by Jim on Monday, 01.17.11 @ 14:11pm


i won't be bothered if you make Kelis' induction speech but your Chicago speech bores me to death, no one will listen to it and if ever they're gonna use your script everyone would go to the washroom.

im just annoyed you took half of the page.

Posted by attention deficit disorder on Monday, 01.17.11 @ 15:53pm


Will Chicago ever get in? Who knows- but the fact that the band's been eligible since 1994 and has not been inducted (has it ever been nominated?) indicates the the HOF does not consider the band an essential, impactful band, at least on the level of other acts who have been inducted. I happen to enjoy Chicago's music (even the slick, overly commercial 80s ballads era- which may have hurt its chances)- but, it is what it is.

Posted by JR on Monday, 01.17.11 @ 16:01pm


i won't be bothered if you make Kelis' induction speech but your Chicago speech bores me to death, no one will listen to it and if ever they're gonna use your script everyone would go to the washroom.

im just annoyed you took half of the page.

Posted by attention deficit disorder on Monday, 01.17.11 @ 15:53pm


Wouldn't how boring you find it depend on your amount of interest in Chicago? Someone who hates the band would obviously rather receive paper cuts on their eyelids than listen to it. Whereas a diehard fan would be hanging on to every word. Personally, if that same speech length-wise was about the Rolling Stones, obviously I'd sit through it as I'm a fan but if it was about, say New Kids on the Block (which will never happen), I'd rather sit through a sequence of bad Eddie Murphy movies.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 01.18.11 @ 02:34am


And to add I don't think anyone would listen to a speech that length on Kelis, of course you probably wouldn't have enough on Kelis' "career" to put one paragraph together let alone a dozen or however many Roy has.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 01.18.11 @ 02:36am


And to add I don't think anyone would listen to a speech that length on Kelis, of course you probably wouldn't have enough on Kelis' "career" to put one paragraph together let alone a dozen or however many Roy has.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 01.18.11 @ 02:36am

if roy would be making a serious speech for kelis, i won't be bothered but i'll be LMAO. i was just being sarcastic Tahvo when i posted something about kelis. no need to be serious, you need to take care of your heart, hehe

Posted by attention deficit disorder on Tuesday, 01.18.11 @ 08:44am


one more thing Tahvo, i don't have a problem with chicago getting in, in fact that would be wonderful. i was just annoyed with the long speech.

Posted by attention deficit disorder on Tuesday, 01.18.11 @ 08:48am


LOL no worries ADD, I can assure you I was not harboring any strong emotions when I wrote that, quite the opposite actually

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 01.18.11 @ 09:55am


I was just listening to Chicago Live in Japan...I just don't understand people who say that Chicago was not a Rock-n-Roll band. Listening to them jam at the end of the album on "25 or 6 to 4" can leave no doubt that this band could rock!!

And for the record, Roy, I enjoyed the speech. Nicely put together. I also agree with the list of inductees listed.

Posted by Steve on Tuesday, 01.18.11 @ 13:32pm


Roy is the Brett Farve of Future Rock Hall. The joke may be old, but just sayin....

Posted by Jim on Monday, 01.17.11 @ 14:11pm

I suppose that's referring to the times when he said "This really is my last speech on Chicago?" Or the fact that the same speech has been posted twice? Just a guess. As a Jets fan, I hope Brett really is done. First off, the "will he or won't he?" is annoying. Second, he's nothing to prove, he should just hang it up while he can still walk. Two more wins baby! Are you ready for a show to be put on tonight?

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 01.23.11 @ 07:06am


Greatest Hits Albums are for people with Attention Deficit Disorder.

Posted by ClashWho on Wednesday, 01.26.11 @ 06:26am


Neither Chicago or Jethro Tull in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame? I guess I won't be visiting Cleveland anytime soon.

Posted by themayorn206 on Monday, 01.31.11 @ 03:50am


jann wenner is a total dick. he could not carry Chicago's jock strap, and makes the rock and roll hall of fame as much of a joke as its location.

Posted by kj on Sunday, 02.27.11 @ 19:35pm


From Roy's induction speech:

"Good evening! Let me just preface by saying I have been informed that all living members of Chicago are here tonight; the current members, the former members, the ones being inducted and the ones who are not being inducted, and they will all be performing tonight as well at different points during the ceremony. So don't expect to see the drama of a Creedence Clearwater Revival, the Sex Pistols, Blondie or Van Halen. There isn't going to be any bullshit drama here tonight folks because it's only Rock 'n' Roll mthrfckrs!"

I stopped reading after that because it's clear that you are an idiot.

Posted by Stephano on Sunday, 03.13.11 @ 19:46pm


Actually, it's a poll asking how much I'd pay to meet Charlie Sheen. Anyway, I'd say Chicago will be last of those to be inducted.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 03.22.11 @ 09:55am


"Actually, it's a poll asking how much I'd pay to meet Charlie Sheen."

$0.00, baby.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 03.23.11 @ 03:41am


"In my opinion they are the worst snub for a group" - somebody way back when

Big snub? Sure. Biggest snub? Not by a long shot.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 03.23.11 @ 10:33am


I am final, I am sorry, but, in my opinion, there is other way of the decision of a question.
It is a pity, that now I can not express - it is compelled to leave. But I will return - I will necessarily write that I think.
In it something is. Many thanks for the information. You have appeared are right.

Posted by stertorgo on Friday, 04.22.11 @ 11:49am


Was there any need to post that induction speech 3 times?

Posted by Sam on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 07:06am


Minor edits isn't enough reason, it's kinda annoying scrolling down here though what is essentialy the same, long thing three times.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 16:32pm


"They don't give a damn about any trumpet playing band. It ain't what they call rock and roll."

Posted by joker on Monday, 05.2.11 @ 17:20pm


I think they are around #150 or so on my HoF induction list ,I think they might be higher on Charles' list.

I lost interest in them after '75,I'd put them in for their first five albums (except Carnegie Hall).

Even then,I still think their first album was/is their very best.

Posted by Underground Democrat on Friday, 05.20.11 @ 06:20am


Actually, they're #186 on my list of eligibles, and part of that was because of the massive popularity of their best albums during the early through mid-70s, a factor that won't be part of the equation next time I rank them. Artists who either cited Chicago as an influence or have covered their songs include Peter Cetera, of course, as well as Rufus, Stephen Malkmus (Pavement), Little River Band, Amy Grant, Air Supply, Leo Sayer, Rick Springfield, Toto and REO Speedwagon among others. The best I can say is that, influence wise, they're more influential than most acts, but compared to other influential acts, that list is slim pickings. I'd love to point to later horn driven acts like Oingo Boingo or Fishbone as having been influenced by Chicago, but the connection just isn't there as far as I can see. And their 80s output with all those Cetera ballads is horrid. For me, the best Chicago was what they created while Terry Kath was alive. After he died, Cetera drove them into an easy listening ditch that was on one hand very popular but on another hand made them lose all credibility. I hope you know this, but there is not a thing you said in that induction speech that almost all of the nominators would care about, with perhaps the singular exception of what Jimi Hendrix said about Terry Kath. The only nominator that might be swayed by that information is the newest one, Roy Trakin. He is all for Daryl Hall & John Oates, Bon Jovi and Neil Diamond, so Chicago is probably on his radar also.

Posted by Charles on Friday, 05.20.11 @ 06:23am


I am the exact right age to be a Chicago fan... I was so very cool with the horns in the Butterfield Blues Band when Bloomfield left and Bloomfield's Electric Flag. I loved the Al Kooper flavored first album of Blood Sweat and Tears. By the time Tower of Power was playing in my home area, I was in Texas, but I went to high school with Lydia Pense, and Cold Blood and ToP played together often so I picked up on both, loving Cold Blood completely. I always like James Brown's band whether the Famous Flames or the JBs, and listening to the Mar-Keys join Booker T & the MGs as both an instrumental group and as Otis Redding's backup band was always great. I think it started when I grew up listening to my mom's Glenn Miller and Dorsey Brothers records and I discovered Count Basie through Al Collins' Purple Grotto, leading me to Duke Ellington, Harry James, Gene Krupa, Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, Don Redman, Cab Calloway, Louis Jordan, and many many others.

But I never cared for Chicago. Listening to the Chicago Transit Authority double disc debut album, I felt like more than half of it was crappy filler. This proved true after they changed their name and kept issuing two disc albums with a nice song or three and acres of bland stuff. I was stationed with a Chicago fan who kept insisting that I should love them, I just needed to know which cuts to skip on every album. I told him then and I repeat it now: why not release a single disc LP with good stuff instead of overblown albums with a lot of mediocre filler?

I recognize their influence, but like them less than I like the non-Kooper BS&T.

And, I cited a number of other rock bands which were horn based who released singles and albums before CTA. Chicago was early, but I saw the Electric Flag and the revamped Butterfield band debut at Monterey (June 1967) as well as the Mar-Keys play there... and JB's band was playing rock years before that... Oh, did I mention Checkmates, LTD? You mentioned Ray Charles in your speech.

Posted by Cliff on Friday, 05.20.11 @ 06:26am


You post enough of your weird-assed fantasy crap all over the place.

Posted by Kid on Saturday, 06.4.11 @ 09:07am


And you know what's funny? First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 20??, during a Barack Obama presidency.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.11.11 @ 06:20am

Also, "Chicago" has seven letters and had seven members, till a game of rumored Russian Roulette. Then there were six, just like six letters in "Barack", who is an "ally" of Russia. Keeping one's nuclear rivals close can be seen as a six-lettered gamble itself, and gambling was born of the Chicago mob scene. Seven Blackhawks on the ice would have been too many. You dig?

Posted by inediblehulk on Wednesday, 06.15.11 @ 05:48am


Do tell us about it, Roy. I'm actually slightly curious, and I don't read magazines.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 07.6.11 @ 04:44am


Seeing that there was going to be a rare article on Chicago from a British publication I just had to go out and buy the magazine from a local store. I won't spoil the article for those who want to read it properly but it contains quotes from what I believe were separate phone interviews between the article writer and Peter Cetera, Robert Lamm and Lee Loughnane. From what I deduct in the article, there's certainly no love lost between Chicago and Peter Cetera, even after 26 years.

I'm a big fan of Chicago 16 and 17, so I'll give you a little glimpse of what was going on in those years...

Robert Lamm in the article states: "David Foster was talented but he was also smarmy. He bought into the whole ballad thing. Once Cetera had started [taking over the] writing and Foster was on board, then all those outsiders started affecting what we were doing," he says, irked by the various outside writing credits.

Peter Cetera rebuts this: "What the other guys are not telling you is that by that point the drugs and the drinking had taken over so much, along with David Foster, I was the only one that could still write. Except for the drummer Danny Seraphine they were all doing that stuff. I dare anybody to try to deny that it was a very dysfunctional time".

There are a few things I really don't understand about Mr. Lamm, who's apparently intelligent and quite articulate. The man loves to bemoan the ballads and enjoys implying to the wider musical community that he is a 'jazz' musician caught up in a band that was damaged by outsiders, yet at the same time he continues to play nearly one hundred shows a year with what essentially is a tribute band who play all the commercial songs of their once glorious hit-laden past, thanks in no small part to Peter Cetera! Furthermore, in the article he professes briefly that Jason Scheff was a 'good replacement', yet everyone knows that Jason Scheff, though probably a nice guy, is an inferior replacement to Peter in regards to singing and songwriting. If Robert Lamm was so despondent with the band’s direction, why didn’t he say something 25 years ago? In fact, Jason Scheff didn’t do anything to alter Chicago’s direction, littering especially Twenty 1 and XXX with his own inferior ballads!

Robert Lamm also comes across as spineless with regard to Bill Champlin in the article. He says that Bill kept himself to himself, brought the band down, and arguably should have left 20 years ago. Yet again, why didn’t Lamm say something 20 years ago? I mean Bill Champlin was in the band for over a quarter of a century!

For as long as the ‘superior’ Robert Lamm and the rest of the band members continue to ride the crest of the wave started by Foster and Cetera in the 1980s when Chicago were on their feet, I will treat their words with contempt!

Posted by Hysteria on Tuesday, 07.12.11 @ 21:55pm


Roy, I'm shocked they had the chutzpah to ask Sting to replace Cetera. At that time, Sting had just been in the biggest rock/pop band in the world & to think he would want to join Chicago!

I like Chicago, but they ain't The Police.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 07.13.11 @ 08:05am


Very unlike Peter to trash Chicago. He's usually very "pC" about it. humble, quiet and talks about a divorce... but the real story is already out... again, why re-hash this.... old news if you asked me. But the real show stopper line could read.... "Why Peter Cetera can't reunite with Chicago"... now that would get my attention. After 26 years, I don't expect any revelations. The group wanted to tour, Peter wanted to see his daughter grow up and do some solo projects. He seems to have enjoyed life and performs live when and if he wants to.

Posted by JK335 frb01 on Wednesday, 07.13.11 @ 22:01pm


What about that article? It's now Saturday.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 07.16.11 @ 12:44pm


This group was the best of the jazz-rock bands. Before they scored their first number one single with If You Leave Me Now in the fall of 1976, Chicago already had ten Top 10 singles, according to The Billboard Book of Number One Hits. They went on to score two more number one hits, along with having five number one albums. With the exception of the Moody Blues, has there ever been a more successful rock band over so long a period that hasn't been put in the Hall of Fame? They meet all the criteria the Hall should be looking for: originality, huge record sales, high-grossing concert tours, longevity.

Posted by Henry Haynes on Tuesday, 07.26.11 @ 10:34am


These guys shared the spotlight with Led Zeppelin as the greatest rock bands of the 1970s. Sure, they relied heavily on ballads in the latter part of their career, but their early music was revolutionary. Although horns had always been a staple in rock, these guys found a way to integrate them into a rhythim section and vocal section. And, for the most part, they covered just about every musical genre out there. So, the reality is that they have defied categorization despite doing mainly ballads for the last 20 years. The album cuts in some cases are better than some of the hits.

These guys have been victims of changing tastes in the music industry and commercial radio, which seems lately to be only interested in the "flavor of the month" artist, and the music all sounds the same. These guys were a product of the late 60s and early 70s, when the music was far more diverse and imaginative. I blame the record companies and commercial radio for knocking out all diversity and imagination in the music these days. Chicago had to do what they did to survive.

These guys should have been in long ago.

Posted by dustylover on Sunday, 07.31.11 @ 00:05am


I love early Chicago. But they went from a really cool band to a super lame band in the 80s. Can early brilliance be outweighed by later multiple sins against music? Also they do come up short on the influence side of things. Popular music went in other directions. I think they should be in due to their early albums, but it's close.

Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 08.9.11 @ 14:32pm


The best I can say is that, influence wise, they're more influential than most acts, but compared to other influential acts, that list is slim pickings. I'd love to point to later horn driven acts like Oingo Boingo or Fishbone as having been influenced by Chicago, but the connection just isn't there as far as I can see. And their 80s output with all those Cetera ballads is horrid. For me, the best Chicago was what they created while Terry Kath was alive. After he died, Cetera drove them into an easy listening ditch that was on one hand very popular but on another hand made them lose all credibility.

Roy, I hope you know this, but there is not a thing you said in that induction speech that almost all of the nominators would care about, with perhaps the singular exception of what Jimi Hendrix said about Terry Kath. The only nominator that might be swayed by that information is the newest one, Roy Trakin. He is all for Daryl Hall & John Oates, Bon Jovi and Neil Diamond, so Chicago is probably on his radar also.

You found sympathetic ears in Roy Trakin and Terry Stewart. Robert Hilburn would claim rock history would be no different if Chicago did not exist. Anthony DeCurtis is a brown-nosing know-nothing who wouldn't vote for them unless others thought they belong, and Dave Marsh would be brutally honest and say he doesn't like most Chicago and would not vote for them either.

However, that speech was a waste of time. They're not interested in popularity, in band history or in sales. Besides, they already know all that stuff. Why would they want to read/hear something that they already know, and, considering most of them were covering the rock scene while all that was happening, they probably know about it firsthand? Emails and letters like this are about as useless as all those petitions going around. They have no sway.

You need to address the issue of who cites Chicago as an influence. As I showed you, there is very little record of that, and nominators like Hilburn are only swayed by that issue. And, you may be surprised by this, but they would also love to hear what Chicago means to you, like if you told a life story where Chicago's music played a big factor.

Posted by Charles Crossley Jr on Tuesday, 08.9.11 @ 19:22pm


Dear Gentlemen ,

Its an absolute joke that a Group as musically talented ; with 3 fantastic voices Lamm , Cetera & Kath haven't all ready been voted in !
Lamm is a hall of fame songwriter , James Pankow trombonist wrote some of there biggest hits
Chicago's music holds up to the test of time .
The group is in Billboards top 5 all time groups ;
Thanks God they never compromised quality for
quantity .
Listen to Chicago V , VI , & VII Playboys group of the year 3 years in a row .
A special bunch of gentlemen indeed !

Warmest Regards ,

Gary O'Connell

Posted by Gary O Connell on Sunday, 09.11.11 @ 00:24am


Dear Gentlemen ,

Its an absolute joke that a Group as musically talented ; with 3 fantastic voices Lamm , Cetera & Kath haven't all ready been voted in !
Lamm is a hall of fame songwriter , James Pankow trombonist wrote some of there biggest hits
Chicago's music holds up to the test of time .
The group is in Billboards top 5 all time groups ;
Thanks God they never compromised quality for
quantity .
Listen to Chicago V , VI , & VII Playboys group of the year 3 years in a row .
A special bunch of gentlemen indeed !

Warmest Regards ,

Gary O'Connell

Posted by Gary O Connell on Sunday, 09.11.11 @ 00:27am


Take Me Back To Chicago

Posted by Joe-Skee on Wednesday, 09.21.11 @ 19:09pm


The RRHOF is all about money. That said, its a shame that Chicago was not inducted long ago if only for the punters that think being in the "Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame" actually means anything. Screw the Hall Of Fame for their blatant basis and kudos to Chicago and bands like them for their perseverance despite their rejection by these clowns. Good music will always trump money grubbing businessmen with the heads up their %&/§%$s like the RRHOF.

Posted by JT on Sunday, 12.4.11 @ 06:59am


Unfortunately, when Terry Kath died, all hope of their induction into the Hall of Fame died for Chicago.

Posted by Fallopia Tuba on Wednesday, 12.7.11 @ 11:57am


Loughnane comes off as a complete tool in the AOR Classic Rock article. He can't hold a candle to Cetera's talents. He goes off about Cetera's derogatory remarks about the band, but has spent the past 25 years ripping Cetera and his legacy in the Chicago (all the while making money off his songs night in and night out).

And Lamm seems delusional at this point. The man doesn't live in reality. I hope his comment that "Anybody can write a song, etc" was taken out of context. B/C he's always given Peter high marks for his great melodic songs and his overall talent. If he was taking a shot, the man's an idiot.

I find Peter's recollection of hearing about Terry's death interesting. It sounds like he felt Terry was his only ally or friend in the group. I may be wrong, but that's my take on his comments.

I'm so tired of the band's "woe is us" attitude regarding their musical direction and their seeming lack of control of their own destiny. If you really wanted to do something about it, either stand up and take a stand or quit! But none of you did that. So Lee, "shut the **** up!"

If I recall Lamm was never happy about Champlin and that comes through yet again. I suspect Champlin did not integrate well but on the other hand I can't imagine they would have kept him that long if he really did drag everyone down all the time.

Foster's negative influence does come through as well. In many ways he saved the band, but he also created division and, I believe, fueled the fire for Cetera's departure. He didn't just produce, he meddled.

I also get the sense that maybe Lamm still doesn't get that at the time of Foster no one was writing jack in that band, especially him.

I think they need to thank Peter Cetera, Bill Champlin and Jason Scheff for being the voices of the hits 1976-1991 they don't accept but accept royalty checks and the cash from sold concert tickets.

The dynamics of the music business changed in the 1980's-MTV appeared, radio programming in the can appeared across the country and the AM band started its turn away from music. These were forces far bigger than the suits that were said to control Chicago.

I am Scheff's age, I can't imagine starting a business with a bunch of guys I went to college with and living the past couple decades on the road with those guys for most of a year, especially when it becomes 24 hours per day for days on end. It is impossible for 7 or 8 guys to all be friendly or remain friends so I understand the continued shots being taken at each other which will likely remain for the rest of their lives.

I think that Lamm, Pankow, Loughnane, and Parazaider have all been under a state of delusion-too many concerts filled of their hits over and over and over.

If there's one guy I've lost complete respect for over the years, it's Lee Loughnane.

I was a trumpet player in high school and used to listen to the records and learn his parts. Some of the stories about Lee certainly made me see him in a different light, but the "have a Coke and a smile..." comment is just ridiculous.

"No, we're not resting on our laurels, but let me remind you that we've sold 120 million albums and we appear on the Today Show once a year to play 25 or 6 to 4." What a dick.

And his use of "we" in his quotes ... does this mean he's now the group's official spokesman? Ugh!

He brings up that Cetera has been gone for 26 years - how many of those 120 million records have been sold in the last 26 years? I'd bet the percentage is quite small. They haven't had a real hit record since 1990!

While these guys rue the 'balladic direction they got sucked into' with Chicago X, they obviously forget that Columbia Records PAID THEM TO GO AWAY after Chicago XIV. They were over! I think the sales for Hot Streets, 13 and 14 pretty much show that direction they were going (if they really had a direction) wasn't working.

Two guys put that band back on the charts - Cetera and Foster. That's a plain and simple fact. And the band rode the crest of that wave from the time Cetera left in '85 into the '90s. They would've been playing the oldies circuit 15 years earlier if not for those two guys.

No they can thank Cetera and Foster for giving them the 1982-1991 royalties from those hits that made the alimony payments, the college educations for the kids, the extra house or two, the fancy cars in the driveways and a boost to their Chicago Inc retirement plan.

Not only that. Had Foster not been hired for Chicago 16, that album would have been a total disaster and pretty much what the band was remembered for. No Foster-Cetera hit machine equals NO Bill Champlin, NO Dawayne Bailey, NO Jason Scheff, NO Tris Imboden and so on and so forth. I think everyone's lives would have been much, much different. Pankow probably would have been the only one living a comfortable retirement.

In Peter Cetera's case he may never record again. He parted ways with his last two labels because they had financial issues or didn't live up to their end of the contract. Unless Cetera finds a small label or pays for it himself, I don't think they will be knocking down his door in this economy. Much like Champlin having issues finding a niche for the Sons right now. Remember XXX could only find a path through Rhino to support that project.

While it can be said of any horn player, Lee truly blows.

The more these guys talk, the less respect I have for them.

If you really are a group, one that has no leaders, and everyone is involved, then it takes some real stupidity to badmouth any part of your history. In this way every time they blame someone, they make themselves look stupid. He did this, he did that, but we made decisions as a whole. Well which is it then?

It looks like the whole group as individuals missed out
on integrity training.

I knew the horn section guys were pretty sorry in that regard.
But Cetera does not come off much better from what this article exposed.
I mean dealing under the table behind your band mates backs.

Danny for all his faults does come across as a pretty decent guy, and from what I have read
so did Terry. Robert seems to be a decent guy but I don't know sometimes his dealings with fans
are a little harsh and prima donna like. The same for Cetera.

In that regard most entertainers could take a lesson from older entertainers.

Jimmy Stewart always signed autographs for fans. He said they paid his salary and he owed it
to them. Sadly that outlook seems to be gone anymore.

Yeah, I wish Lamm would come out and say that he was in rehab during 16 and that was why he didn't contribute more. Instead of blaming Cetera and Foster. I also wish he'd own up to the fact that the collective band brought Foster in and kept paying him for three albums.

Posted by DB on Sunday, 12.18.11 @ 19:42pm


I'm going to start my own list of lists that you've posted showing how many times you've posted them.

Posted by joker on Wednesday, 12.21.11 @ 20:21pm


... and my mind just collapsed.

Posted by GFW on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 11:37am


Just a thought: If the 2012 induction of Chicago is truly predestined, isn't the world scheduled to end before their induction would be accomplished? I guess irony is written in the stars. It might even be worth it.

Posted by astrodog on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 17:04pm


They actually get more publicity but not getting voted in. Ive grown up with them and have listened to them since I was about 5 years old. Im 45 now, and have seen them a bunch of times in concert over the years. They have never put on a bad show, and truely love their fans. Jann Wenner needs to get over himself, and leave the past in the past. Shame on him.

Posted by Patricia on Friday, 01.27.12 @ 17:26pm


Thanks Roy! I was reading all these post the other day.They should be in...

Posted by Happy on Saturday, 02.18.12 @ 21:54pm


So are you saying that you want Chicago to be inducted? I couldn't tell.
I have to say that with a few classic songs there was also an awful lot of filler on even their earliest albums. And their 80's ballads were brutal. They sold albums, but that genre sells. I stand by thinking they deserve induction on balance, but they were very uneven.

Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 02.28.12 @ 18:01pm


Roy, stop copying other people's writing and passing it off as your own.

Posted by ken on Tuesday, 04.3.12 @ 21:34pm


Terry Kath's instrumental, "Free Form Guitar" on "Chicago Transit Authority" expresses his love for motorcycle riding with its use of feedback and makes you feel like you're on a motorcycle. This predates Montrose's "Bad Motor Scooter" by four years. Both Terry Kath and Ronnie Montrose would die of self-inflicted gunshot wounds.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Saturday, 04.14.12 @ 10:06am


What an outrage that these guys haven't even been considered. 122 million albums and some of the best Rock songs along with outstanding musical abilities.. an incredible band. Over half of those already inducted don't hold a candle to this band, have seen them over a dozen times live and it's just an outrage they have been left out. The only ones that I consider as bad or worse is Rush. Bon Jovi too but the will be in there next year or two, guaranteed. Chicago is a legendary band. Seems their touring partner EWandF got in long before.

Posted by Paul Thomas on Saturday, 05.12.12 @ 19:35pm


https://www.facebook.com/InductChicagointoRRHOF

If we have our way they will be inducted in theres and our life time. Please show your support and join us on Face book to move the Hall of Shame to do whats right.

Posted by KAREN on Sunday, 06.3.12 @ 00:20am


That sounds all kinds of awesome, Roy.

Posted by DarinRG on Tuesday, 06.12.12 @ 23:30pm


Wow Roy lot of jawin. I agree they should be in
After reading most all of the stuff on this sight I must say I never new so much about them until now lol!

Posted by Happy on Wednesday, 06.20.12 @ 14:43pm


I'm not as big of a Chicago fan as I used to be (I still enjoy the occasional song), I admire Roy's enthusiasm and desire to see them get inducted into the RRHOF. Chicago is one of the most glaring snubs in RRHOF history. Perhaps Chicago's mediocre '80s output has something to do with that.

I can't add much to what Roy has posted, but I will say that I think Chicago expertly melded rock and jazz better than any other band. Roy has gone to great lengths to document Chicago's impact and success. I respect him greatly for that.

Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 06.20.12 @ 22:24pm


Roy-Please take this in a good natured way because I admire your passion, but has a band you've championed ever gotten in?
Anyway from my previous comment on this page I was initially on the fence about Chicago but ultimately decided that they were worth inducting. But I've gone back and looked. Really they had a great first album and a bunch of uneven albums after that with a few good songs mixed in. Then they became AC. I know they sold a lot of albums, but as of now I would say no. They were not the first band to engage in jazz/rock fusion. And their later commercial success was painful. Let's just say that I can see the other side of the coin, although no, I cannot explain why Laura Nyro is in and they are not.

Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 08.14.12 @ 01:15am


About Chicago, astrodog wrote:
"Roy-Please take this in a good natured way because I admire your passion, but has a band you've championed ever gotten in?"

I can think of one that Roy championed that got in.

The same one I championed.
"The Miracles" .

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 08.14.12 @ 22:25pm


Roy been doing your "homework" and still carrying the torch for Chicago. Amen brotha! I was/am big fan of 70s era (Terry Kath yrs) Chicago and also want them in the Rock Hall. Guess I would go with your Scenario 2 or 3 ... probably would include Champlin (?) but nobody coming after him.

Posted by telarock on Friday, 08.24.12 @ 09:13am


I sure hope they get in Is long over do

Posted by Happy on Wednesday, 09.19.12 @ 22:30pm


When Chicago first came out they were great and innovative. Then they put out pop crap. I say thumbs down for the HOF. Although I will say that they are more deserving than some in the HOF but that's another story.

Posted by GB on Thursday, 10.18.12 @ 09:48am


"They don't give a damn about any trumpet playing band. It ain't what they call rock and roll."

Posted by joker on Thursday, 04.8.10 @ 12:08pm

Gets me every time.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 10.27.12 @ 10:41am


Am I the only one who hates "If You Leave Me Now"

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 10.27.12 @ 12:17pm


Not my favorite, but not their worst song.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 10.27.12 @ 12:33pm


I don't really care for "If You Leave Me Now" to be honest, but I wouldn't say I hate it.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 10.27.12 @ 12:35pm


If You Leave Me Now is a classic. Very well written-music, lyrics and production. Fans and critics agree. This is not cheese! This is not You're the Inspiration.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.27.12 @ 19:48pm

Well I can't argue with that! "If You Leave Me Now" is certainly better than "You're the Inspiration!"

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Sunday, 10.28.12 @ 03:33am


Ah, you've left out the truly scary part of Baby What a Big Surprise -- the sound of the great Robert Lamm and the great Terry Kath singing "shooby dooby wah" behind Cetera's mindless lyrics. At least it scared the hell out of me -- have never fully recovered.

Posted by PeteDC on Sunday, 12.9.12 @ 22:57pm


The girl in the song is dead. It's very clear in the lyrics:

"Right before my very eyes /I thought that you were only fakin' it
And like before my heart was takin' it / Baby what a big surprise
Right before my very eyes...

"Just to be alone / Was a little more than I could take...
Now and then just like before / I think about the love I've thrown away
But now it doesn't matter anyway"

(Hey, if they can make sh*t up, I can, too).

Posted by billfleck on Sunday, 12.9.12 @ 22:58pm


https://www.facebook.com/InductChicagointoRRHOF?sk=wall&filter=2¬if_t=share_wall_create

Probably wont be inducted in there life time. Join us on face book.....

Posted by karen on Monday, 12.10.12 @ 21:55pm


Roy, they probably should get in first...no, wait...be nominated first before we need to ponder possible induction speakers. And I do not see a nomination or induction in the near future.

Posted by Dezmond on Saturday, 02.2.13 @ 13:12pm


Its gonna take some sort of new guard on the R&R Hall Committee to get Chicago in. There is no way its gonna happen with the current regime, they clearly hate the band as the acts that are getting in/nominated now are a joke and pale in accomplishments to Chicago. Your telling me Randy Newman who is a good composer was/is more influential than Chicago? Really, with a straight face? Not on his best day and I'm sure he would tell you the same thing.

Posted by Pete on Monday, 02.18.13 @ 01:58am


Roy, the only thing I don't like about the picture posting is that when I come here I usually click on the 'Most Recent Comments' tab & if you use alot of vertical bandwidth by posting those pictures, it means that alot fewer comments are within the block set aside for Most Recent Comments (so I think).

Nice picture of the President, BTW.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 02.25.13 @ 07:42am


Yea I agree with you Paul in KY, thats what I usually do is read the recent comments and when he puts up stuff like that and all of the same comments on different artists it wipes out alot of the recent ones.

Posted by bojanthebest on Monday, 02.25.13 @ 11:22am


Americans are obsessed with celebrity. Americans are obsessed with the bad boy aspect, all of the people rags, and celebrity obsession. This band focuses on the excellence of the art. The sensationalistic craving for celebrity is a boring journey. Nobody wants to talk about the art. Higher calling folks will acknowledge that. This obsession with celebrity leaves us out of the mix because it’s not about that with this band, it’s about this legacy of the music and there is nothing printable about that that is sensationalistic. There is a lot of value in what we have done over the years. It’s quite phenominal this legacy we have created but it is not sensationalistic. It’s not something you would want a typical reader of these rags to find interesting. They want to read about who did what to whom. Who went to jail for what. They want to read about somebody’s misfortune. They want to see that someone is worse off than they are.

--James Pankow


Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.14.13 @ 23:22pm
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Truer words have never been spoken, regarding art vs. sales hype. It's a real pity that hype & marketing won out.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 04.15.13 @ 06:58am


How can anyone take this so called Rock & Roll HOF serious... it has no credibility whatsoever!
to exclude Chicago is a disgrace, and an insult to 1 of the greatest bands ever. replace this committee post haste!!!!!

Posted by CC Golf on Thursday, 06.6.13 @ 05:31am


I just heard Green Day's "Brain Stew" on the radio and noticed the main guitar line borrows its chord progression from "25 or 6 to 4"

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Friday, 06.7.13 @ 17:14pm


Roy, was reading the Kickstarter writeup & although I had heard that Mr. Kath's death was more a drunken accident & being stupid with firearms than anything else, the writeup makes it sound like it was a concious suicide.

What is your take on Mr. Kath's death?

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 06.20.13 @ 12:37pm


First three albums were decent. After that the music was pure pap. We could put our babies to sleep by playing Chicago's albums. In contrast, they were awake, engaged and actively listening when we played The Beatles.

Posted by Bob Borzoi on Friday, 06.21.13 @ 16:55pm


If the Chicago Cubs ever win a World Series championship again, that would raise my hopes for Chicago getting in the RRHOF.

Never mind the Blackhawks. Or the Bulls. Or the White Sox.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Tuesday, 06.25.13 @ 20:29pm


To be quite honest, I would rather see the band Chicago inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame than Nirvana next year.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 07.1.13 @ 01:27am


To be quite honest, I would rather see the band Chicago inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame than Nirvana next year.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 07.1.13 @ 01:27am
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I understand where you'd like to see Chicago get in. I have nothing against Chicago, & would like to see them get in as well. However, better they do it on the back's of someone else than Nirvana.

I used to see a lot of comments about "this band should have to wait until this group gets in". Nine times out of ten, they dealt w/a new band having to wait for an older act. Inevitably, I found that when I mentioned there were acts older than the favored group in question, the person clammed up.

My point was always this: if you know an act is a first ballot group, why wait to induct them? Look what happened w/Metallica, who were definitely a first ballot case. In a sports Hall of Fame, they don't wait to let in a player who has the definitive credentials. Imagine Michael Jordan having to wait a yr. cause they forgot someone from 1965?! No one in their right mind would propose that (at least I don't think???).

I agree, Chicago should go in. They should be there already. They probably should've made it within at least three to five classes, if not on the first ballot themselves. However, it's not any modern group's fault that the voter's have muffed this. Why punish the more modern group? Let them in - but don't do it on the back of a more modern act that deserves to be there themselves.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Monday, 07.1.13 @ 05:28am


Wow, I had never really heard Chicago's songs (other than those played on the radio) until earlier this year. Who would have known that they would be classified as a "progressive rock" band?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 07.11.13 @ 10:04am


IMO, Chicago is a pop band that also has released conventional rock songs as well.

They are definitely not 'progressive rock', as I understand the term.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 07.11.13 @ 15:17pm


This might work, Roy. I doubt they've ever gotten an email from a creepy Chicago fan. This is probably all that was standing in the way.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 07.18.13 @ 03:01am


This might work, Roy. I doubt they've ever gotten an email from a creepy Chicago fan. This is probably all that was standing in the way.

Posted by DarinRG on Thursday, 07.18.13 @ 03:01am


Roy,

I only have two studio albums by Chicago thus far: "Chicago Transit Authority" and "Chicago." I also own the compilation, "Chicago The Very Best Of: Only The Beginning."

Peter Cetera had sung on quite a few of Chicago's greatest songs written by other individuals, in addition to quite a few of his own great self-penned songs. I do not think that Peter Cetera's pop oriented songs has been detrimental to their nomination, however.

Will "Clear History" have the same effect on Chicago that "I Love You, Man" had for Rush?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 08.15.13 @ 02:49am


Roy,

The way that I see it, is that Peter Cetera is for many individuals- the voice of Chicago. After he left the band, Chicago was never the same. In order to get Chicago into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, Peter Cetera will need to be invited back to work with Chicago in the studio. It appears that he really does not want to tour any longer, however a "one off" show recorded for DVD, BluRay that would be televised on VH-1 classic might be just the right thing to convince the nominating committee that Chicago is worthy of induction. Unfortunately "Clear History," however well intentioned, may just not do the trick. If my opinion about this film, at least the portions that i have seen, is similar to other reviewers, it could hurt Chicago.

The members of that major "progressive rock" band, who have recently been inducted, may hold the key. Has anybody ever asked the "holy triumvirate" what they think about Chicago?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 08.17.13 @ 10:36am


Roy,

Has anybody ever created a documentary about Chicago (the band), in the same light as "Rush: Beyond The Lighted Stage?"

Has VH-1 Classic featured Chicago in an episode of their "Behind The Music: Remastered" series?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 08.17.13 @ 17:54pm


Way over DUE

Posted by Happy on Saturday, 08.17.13 @ 21:54pm


I agree that Chicago should already have been in YEARS ago!

Posted by James on Saturday, 08.17.13 @ 22:06pm


Roy, that is fascinating. I would also like to know, for each member of Chicago:

1. Favorite color;
2. Favorite food; and
3. Age and location where each member lost his virginity.

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 09.8.13 @ 23:50pm


Whatttttttt? What do fans need to do to make this happen?

Posted by Bb on Saturday, 09.14.13 @ 20:21pm


How brutal would it be to have Chicago, Bon Jovi and Linda Ronstadt on the ballot? Throw Sonic Youth in there and I'll gag. (God I hate hipster heroes).

In seriousness, I think Chicago is borderline but it's defensible (Fine early career, wretched later career). Bon Jovi is one I would oppose (not enough quality imho), but I could still see the rationale. Ronstadt would be a travesty. Pure cronyism.

Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 10.15.13 @ 05:49am


On a ballot like that, Sonic Youth would be the one redeeming feature.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 10.15.13 @ 13:57pm


Chicago has NOT been nominated!!! LOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok. That was a bit premature. Just anticipating the strange sense of satisfaction that will cause me. Not even sure why.

Posted by astrodog on Tuesday, 10.15.13 @ 17:59pm


CHICAGO COULD LESS ABOUT THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME.IT IS JUST A MUSEUM FOR DINOSAURS .AS IN THE MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY

Posted by greenbay ray on Thursday, 11.21.13 @ 13:57pm


CHICAGO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME.IT IS JUST A MUSEUM FOR DINOSAURS.AS IN THE MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY.

Posted by greenbay ray on Thursday, 11.21.13 @ 14:02pm


"museum for dinosaurs"

protip: if your first album was in 1969, there's a 99% chance that you are, in fact, a dinosaur as well.

Posted by GFW on Thursday, 11.21.13 @ 14:33pm


Roy, was on teh internets yesterday & I came across a story in Washington Monthly about famous bad reviews. One of those profiled was a 1972 review by Lester Bangs of a Chicago live Christmas album (that they must have put out as a money maker) that he did for Creem.

Mr. Bangs wrote a scathing review of the band (and that album). You might want to read that (or you might not want to, as he really slagged the band). When I read that review (which reeks of condescending 'rockism'), I think I get a better idea why some of the Hall poohbahs don't want Chicago in their club.

Posted by Paul n KY on Tuesday, 12.3.13 @ 07:43am


You do know that Chicago wasn't nominated this year, right?

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 12.15.13 @ 10:05am


I guess the folks voting for bands going in to the Rock and Roll HOF haven't listened to music in the last 45 years. To leave CHICAGO out of the HOF is just plain ridiculous. They've only sold over 100,000,000 record (almost all ROCK AND ROLL).
Why dont you just close down the Rock and Roll HOF because it is not a HOF without CHICAGO. Its a JOKE!!

Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 12.18.13 @ 22:46pm


I am truly shocked that Chicago and the Moody Blues are not in the HOF !! That does not even make sense!

Posted by Danny on Friday, 12.20.13 @ 00:56am


Why?

Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 01.1.14 @ 08:22am


Chicago good enough to play at Carnegie hall but not in the HoF... Get real.

Posted by RJA on Wednesday, 02.26.14 @ 22:38pm


My boyfriend & I went to see Chicago at Carnegie Hall. It was a fantastic show. We got married in 1972 and Color My World was played for our First Dance. Chicago has so many fabulous songs, they should already be in the R & R Hall of Fame.
A Fan 4 Ever!

Posted by Eileen on Wednesday, 04.2.14 @ 16:25pm


I noticed, a lot of lesser known artists that opened up for Chicago in the 70s, have already surpassed them and entered the Rock hall. Billy Joel, Allman Brothers Band....


Back in June 1973, when Chicago played in Philadelphia, the audience booed the opening act really really bad. It was a fiasco. Now the act is in the Hall of Fame, whereas Chicago still isn't there.

So who was the unfortunate opening act? Bruce Springsteen!!!!

Posted by Barry on Wednesday, 05.7.14 @ 09:15am


I love Chicago first saw them in 1967. I do miss Peter Cetera but with that said I have started a Facebook page "Put the band Chicago in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Please like and join.

Posted by Michael Denoyer on Wednesday, 05.21.14 @ 20:15pm



Chicago has some of the best musicians still working. Every concert is sold out and they are always working all over the world. They brought a unique combination of rock, blues, jazz and funk wrapped in a full sound we still enjoy today. Few bands are as deserving.

Get with it and induct them already.

Posted by Sylvie on Monday, 06.2.14 @ 03:57am


the group does not belong in. in high school, they senta dumb kid around telling people what songs to listen to. ive since gotten fair legal use of the dead pal al copyright, ive renamed the group the alfed e neuman band, with al bruckner the devils radio. tunes such as dialouge,qustions 67 and 67, which are guidance counselor material do not need recording,thunder and lightning homosexuals.the al bruckner bysblos kid ive disposed of at the lunch table in high school because of the 4 seasons and tommy roe,except for his homosexual air.my wife pam and i sustained apertinent hypothesis,i do not have to look at him unless in court, or the al prinipal disciplines him.the alfed e neuman band did not need to ask questions, a beginning counselor and therapist asks too many questions.

Posted by john jarvis on Friday, 06.13.14 @ 15:13pm


I agree that it is time for Chicago to be put into the Hall of Fame. Btw, their new album "Now" is going to be one of their best!

Posted by Dennis on Thursday, 06.19.14 @ 16:26pm


THEY ARE POP! AND THEIR GUITARIST SUCKS!!!

Posted by Karl Singleton on Thursday, 07.17.14 @ 23:00pm


Roy, I'm sorry, I know that you're one of their most passionate fans, but they haven't done anything relevant since the 70s, and what they've done since then has hurt their cause. Possibly irreparably. I'm not trying to be a dick, but when it comes to Chicago, you might need to start blaming Chicago.

Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 08.16.14 @ 00:07am


Roy, who is Mr. Hilburn?

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 08.22.14 @ 07:42am


Roy, thank you for the link.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 08.26.14 @ 14:21pm


I've always said: Just induct the Terry Kath years & to heck with anyone who got in later.

Posted by Paul in KY on Wednesday, 09.3.14 @ 15:01pm


Alright. I can't believe Chicago aren't in Rock n'Roll Hall of Fame. They were so popular in the 70's. You would think they up Hall's alley. Also their first 3 albums were great contributions to Rock. A couple years ago I was thinking it was because after the mid 70's they were pure Pop. I don't even like their 80's stuff. That would have been a good theory except Abba went in and Hall & Oates went in. They are pure Pop. They were certainly Pure Pop in the 80's. So what gives. Chicago therefore should certainly go in. The fact that they were a Solid Rock outfit early on makes them more worthy than the 2 artists I mentioned above. They certainly have a long career that shouldn't be ignored. No way. Their 70's stuff makes them worthy.

Posted by Ben on Friday, 09.19.14 @ 06:24am


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To: FRL website monitor
Re: Roy

Help please! The poster "Roy" has effectively spammed up this Chicago page. It is now way beyond question. If you don't believe me, put the following into a search query:

Question: What do you get when you mix the voice of Ray Charles with the voice and the guitar playing of Jimi Hendrix?

How many times was it posted on this page? It is only a snippet of an extremely long "speech" which is posted many (many!) times! Making this page tedium extremis! BTW: I'm a huge fan of Terry Kath (may he r.i.p). Also, I like the open exchange format of the FRL site. However, at least some moderation is needed in this case. The page should be cleaned up and individuals should not hi-jack it. Ironically this mess is a turnoff.
* * * * * * * * * *

Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 10.15.14 @ 04:58am


"Question: What do you get when you mix the voice of Ray Charles with the voice and the guitar playing of Jimi Hendrix?"

Answer: I'll tell ya what you get. You get such masterpieces as "You're the Inspiration"! Although you also need to add the composing skills of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, the lyrics of Bob Dylan and the melodic sense of Lennon/McCartney. THEN you approach Chicago! "When you love somebody! Always on my mind!" The pinnacle of human achievement in the arts, right there.

Posted by Arturo Fuentes on Wednesday, 10.15.14 @ 06:17am


Obviously the two commenters before completely disregarded my point. Roy you are only now bent on monopolizing communication, and have made yourself wearisome. Do you really imagine anybody wants to wade thru the yard-long posts which you are likely plagiarizing. I see several other people have indicated likewise with me, it's annoying! Are you nuts? You have made Chicago page a garbage repository!

FRL help!

Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 10.15.14 @ 09:16am


You're right, Telarock. It was way out of hand. It has been cleaned up.

Roy -- everything deleted had been posted by you on about eight other websites, so you can find it there.

Posted by FRL on Wednesday, 10.15.14 @ 09:44am


Mercí beacoup FRL. The thread here is still a mile long but it's navigatable. Now, let's go Chicago! Woohoo! Original 7 members only baby!

Posted by Telarock on Wednesday, 10.15.14 @ 10:20am


And think about poor folks like myself that sometimes visit FRL on my iPad and iPhone. It can be miserable to have to scroll and scroll. And then scroll some more.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 10.15.14 @ 11:06am


http://futurerocklegends.com/artist.php?artist_id=Chicago#post

The "post your own" comment link at the top of every comment list will get you to the bottom.

Posted by FRL on Wednesday, 10.15.14 @ 13:10pm


Arturo Fuentes do I sense sarcasm? lol
Hey, even Mozart had some less-than-inspiring compositions ... and he was working alone. But then, of course, his good ones were really Good!

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.16.14 @ 05:55am


Perhaps just a tinge of sarcasm. I actually like Chicago, although I'm not a huge fan. I am aware that they are much more than the cheesy 80's period.

Posted by Arturo Fuentes on Thursday, 10.16.14 @ 07:16am


Roy,


An article about Chicago is being featured in the new issue of PROG magazine.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10.21.14 @ 08:30am


Who is on the cover? Is Chicago mentioned anywhere on the cover?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.21.14 @ 08:46am


King Crimson is on the cover. Chicago is mentioned on the back cover.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 10.21.14 @ 08:49am


It's a crime that Chicago has been ignored for induction. Their music is a unique fusion of rock and classical(horns) and has been enjoyed by fans all over the world for 45 years. The play to sold out shows everywhere and have been doing so for all those years. Please give them their due. They should have been in the Hall since the late 90's. Seems like someone does not want them there. All of us fans sure want them there. Thanks.

Posted by Roger Peterson on Sunday, 10.26.14 @ 21:24pm


Can and should Peter Cetera be called blue-eyed soul for his vocals?

Lowdown, Old Days, Just You 'N' Me, Feelin' Stronger Everyday, I've Been Searchin' So Long, Wishing You Were Here, If You Leave Me Now, Baby What A Big Surprise, Love Me Tomorrow, Hard To Say I'm Sorry, Hard Habit To Break, You're The Inspiration, Glory Of Love, One Good Woman, Restless Heart.

His bass work was called Beatles-meet-Motown.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.27.14 @ 16:27pm


When you consider Rolling Stone and MTV completely control who gets in and who does not there is not surprise Chicago has not been inducted. They have a success record that no other group has had save the Beatles. A previous comment said it best....lack of education on GOOD music on the part of critics and the nomination board is the other reason why they will not let Chicago in. So Mr. Landau.....I challenge you to name one group that is still making music and touring every year that has been around for as long as Chicago has and has had the success they have had. Get off your God Damn high horse and pay some respect to a group who can run circles around any current "talent".

Posted by Raymond O Shanks on Tuesday, 10.28.14 @ 07:11am


Peter Cetera, blue-eyed soul? I dunno. The term applies well to Daryl Hall. It is valid ico Annie Lennox, Eric Burdon, Tom Jones other notables. Cetera?
As to Raymond's comment Chicago v. Beatles: Mercifully (imo) The Beatles split up, went their separate ways while they were still going strong. Chicago should have disbanded long ago. Going long does not equate to going strong! It usually only equates to "oldies" group.
Also, I myself respect the people who run the Rock Hall. If you don't respect the institution, why do you even care about yor artist getting in or not? Rolling Stone and MTV don't completely control everything. Jann Wenner has/had influence as well he should, but nobody annointed him dictator. I would encourage disgruntled fans to stop whining about Wenner, he puts his pants on same as you! Of course, after he puts his pants on, he has an empire that he runs! lol. SNL joke.

Posted by Telarock on Thursday, 10.30.14 @ 10:05am


They gotta be in. I mean, STILL getting new fans, despite their "clean" image (how many bandcs can say that?-that's an important thing, if later audiences still like 'em), public recognition for all the many decades, horns and saxes in the band, and at the outset MANY EXPIREMENTAL tracks..I mean, Poem 58 [first album, CHICAGO TRANSIT AUTHORITY, 1969], and all thouse suites on the next album [CHICAGO, 1970].

And that guy who said that he saw them in 1967 is even MORE proof of their induction eligibilty: longevity.

Maybe the group should have done drugs or gotten stoned and then arrested?

I'm also for having Three Dog Night, Electric Light Orchestra, Kraftwerk, Pat Boone, and Jethro Tull in as well.

Posted by SteveCarras on Friday, 12.19.14 @ 10:24am


PS I was interested in seeing the Jann Wenner grudge comments that some folks made..so that's another reason....did Chicago just insult Jann's favorite music styles or politicals of its performers.

Posted by SteveCarras on Friday, 12.19.14 @ 10:28am


@ SteveCarras

Wow! Chicago not into drugs getting stoned or arrested?!!! Have I got some stories for you. It was an open secret in the 70's that the band's entertainment of choice was coke. The Chicago logo has a similar style to Coca Cola for a reason. Peter Cetera did clean up after TK's death. In an interview Lee tells PC to STFU and have a Coke. He's not talking about the soda. If you look at some of the videos you can tell they are high. Check out the 72 Tokyo concert, Feeling Stronger Everyday at the Ranch and Thunder and Lightening on the Merv Griffen Show.

Bobby wrote State of the Union after he got arrested for swearing on stage. Then there are the political songs. A song for Richard and his Friends basically tells the POTUS to take a hike. other political songs are:

Where Do We Go From Here
It Better End Soon
Lowdown
Dialogue Parts 1 and 2 (on New Years Rockin Eve PC mentions Nixon in the song)
Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is

Then the songs with sexual meaning

A Hard Morning Risin' Without Breakfast
Skintight
You Get It Up

There is also the one floating around that Terry gave the finger in England at a concert or press conference. And don't forget about PC getting beaten up by a bunch of Marines at Dodgers Stadium and needing to get his jaw wired shut.


About the Jann Wenner feud

From what I read it started when their manager, Jimmy Guercio started complaining about their reviews and not getting on the cover of RS. According to Danny they were all saying things about wiping their butts with RS. I have seen several variations about what PC is quoted as saying. What I recall going around in the 70's is that PC was quoted as saying: Yeah I take with me when I go to the john. I use it to wipe my ass when I take a shit.

Hope that helps.






















Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 12.20.14 @ 09:12am


Who the f*ck is Jann Wenner anyway. Why does anyone care what his opinion of greatness is?

Maybe we should start an online R&R HOF website to induct artists that the people want. While we are at it we should start a boycott of any current HOF proceedings, i.e., the museum, the website, the ceremonies,, etc. There should have been a committee of artists overseeing the selection committee. They would have to be made up of artists not eligible, and/or artists already in.

Posted by jvgunn on Friday, 01.30.15 @ 15:29pm


Who the f*ck is Jann Wenner anyway. Why does anyone care what his opinion of greatness is?

Maybe we should start an online R&R HOF website to induct artists that the people want. While we are at it we should start a boycott of any current HOF proceedings, i.e., the museum, the website, the ceremonies,, etc. There should have been a committee of artists overseeing the selection committee. They would have to be made up of artists not eligible, and/or artists already in.

Posted by jvgunn on Friday, 01.30.15 @ 15:29pm


Who the f*ck is Jann Wenner anyway. Why does anyone care what his opinion of greatness is?

Maybe we should start an online R&R HOF website to induct artists that the people want. While we are at it we should start a boycott of any current HOF proceedings, i.e., the museum, the website, the ceremonies,, etc. There should have been a committee of artists overseeing the selection committee. They would have to be made up of artists not eligible, and/or artists already in.

Posted by jvgunn on Friday, 01.30.15 @ 15:29pm


Who the f*ck is Jann Wenner anyway. Why does anyone care what his opinion of greatness is?

Maybe we should start an online R&R HOF website to induct artists that the people want. While we are at it we should start a boycott of any current HOF proceedings, i.e., the museum, the website, the ceremonies,, etc. There should have been a committee of artists overseeing the selection committee. They would have to be made up of artists not eligible, and/or artists already in.

Posted by jvgunn on Friday, 01.30.15 @ 15:29pm


Who the f*ck is Jann Wenner anyway. Why does anyone care what his opinion of greatness is?

Maybe we should start an online R&R HOF website to induct artists that the people want. While we are at it we should start a boycott of any current HOF proceedings, i.e., the museum, the website, the ceremonies,, etc. There should have been a committee of artists overseeing the selection committee. They would have to be made up of artists not eligible, and/or artists already in.

Posted by jvgunn on Friday, 01.30.15 @ 15:29pm


The case for Chicago's induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is overwhelming and compelling: Second only to the Beach Boys in terms of album sales by a US band; they continue to record new music and to play live; their musicianship -- particularly in their early years -- is unique and outstanding. Whatever "political" issues have kept this amazing group of musicians out of the RRHF should once and for all be discarded.

Posted by Dave on Wednesday, 02.4.15 @ 14:46pm


Chicago not in the hall, what a joke, and "Public Enemy" is...you've got to be f...ing kidding me.

Posted by Mark Rensch on Monday, 03.2.15 @ 21:53pm


http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php

Chicago has finally made it onto the "Most Yes Votes" list on the FRL Voting Statistics page. Thanks to the inductions of Rush, Nirvana, Green Day and Stevie Ray Vaughan and their removal from the page. Chicago is # 10 in YES votes on FRL.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.4.15 @ 12:06pm


THE TOP 5 CHARTING ROCK AND ROLL BANDS OF ALL-TIME ON BOTH, THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART AND THE BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES CHART:

01. The Beatles
02. The Rolling Stones
03. The Beach Boys
04. Chicago
05. The Bee Gees

AND THIS IS HOW IT WILL ALWAYS BE!

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.9.15 @ 06:26am


Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Laudir De Oliveira (1973-1980: percussions; songwriter; Sergio Mendes)
09. Donnie Dacus (1978-1980: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
10. Chris Pinnick (1980-1985: guitar)
11. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter; The Sons Of Champlin)
12. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter; The Keane Brothers; Keane)
13. DaWayne Bailey (1986-1994: guitar; songwriter; The Silver Bullet Band)
14. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter; Honk; Firefall)
15. Bruce Gaitsch (1995: guitar)
16. Keith Howland (1995-Present: guitar)
17. Lou Pardini (2009-Present: vocals; keyboards)

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.11.15 @ 09:14am


William Howard Taft High School Hall of Fame, A Message From the Principal

Terry Alan Kath, will be inducted, into "The Taft High School Alumni, Hall Of Fame"

Dinner & Ceremony to be held 9.12.15,
Ridgemoor Country Club
6601 W Gunnison St, Harwood Heights, IL 60706

Details forthcoming!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05.12.15 @ 23:21pm


It's about time. This has been long overdue. Taft has been playing games with not recognizing Terry Kath for a while. About five years ago there was a tribute concert to protest Terry not being included in his high school's Hall of Fame. Danny Seraphine, James Guercio and Peter Cetera's brother, Kenny were in attendance. There are several You Tube videos of the event online.

Now to work on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 05.13.15 @ 10:28am


Roy,where is Walfredo Reyes on your list of current and former Chicago Band members?

Posted by James on Monday, 05.18.15 @ 13:16pm


I'd like to see Chicago make RRHOF. There has been many forum posters who think they should be inducted. They have been around in some incarnations over 45 years. They have sold over 100 million albums and had several hit songs. I can't make any argument against Chicago. They check off most of the boxes RRHOF criteria. Chicago has many fans like Rush who will vote and petition the Hall. KING

Posted by KING on Tuesday, 05.19.15 @ 21:17pm


Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Laudir De Oliveira (1973-1980: congas; percussions; songwriter; Sergio Mendes)
09. Donnie Dacus (1978-1980: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
10. Chris Pinnick (1980-1985: guitar)
11. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter; The Sons Of Champlin)
12. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter; The Keane Brothers; Keane)
13. DaWayne Bailey (1986-1994: guitar; songwriter; The Silver Bullet Band)
14. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter; Honk; Firefall)
15. Bruce Gaitsch (1995: guitar)
16. Keith Howland (1995-Present: guitar)
17. Lou Pardini (2009-Present: vocals; keyboards)
18. Drew Hester (2009-2012: drums; percussions; Foo Fighters; Common Sense; Coattail Riders)
19. Walfredo Reyes, Jr. (2012-Present: percussions; Santana; Traffic)

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.20.15 @ 08:54am


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

CHICAGO

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Laudir De Oliveira (1973-1980: congas; percussions; songwriter; Sergio Mendes)
11. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter; The Sons Of Champlin)
12. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter; The Keane Brothers; Keane)
14. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter; Honk; Firefall)

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.20.15 @ 08:58am


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

CHICAGO

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Laudir De Oliveira (1973-1980: congas; percussions; songwriter; Sergio Mendes)
09. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter; The Sons Of Champlin)
10. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter; The Keane Brothers; Keane)
11. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter; Honk; Firefall)

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.20.15 @ 09:01am


It will be interesting to see which bands Chicago beats out for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05.20.15 @ 09:04am


The following list is for anyone who doesn't realize that Chicago being in the Hall is about Chicago alone. It is core to understanding how and why Chicago was influential. It is a list of artists of from the 60's through the early 80's who are: from Chicago and the Chicago area, have a band member from Chicago an the Chicago area or spent time as a part of the Chicago music scene. None are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!

Chicago - Styx - REO Speedwagon - John Prine - Steve Goodman - Bonnie Koloc - Michael Peter Smith - Dan Fogelberg - Ides of March - The Buckinghams - New Colony Six - The Cryan Shames - The Shadows of Knight - Kal David and the Exceptions (the Exceptions/The Exception) - Illinois Speedpress (the Rovin Kind)- The Missing Links - Aorta - Alliota, Haynes and Jeramiah - M & R Rush - The Flock - The Blues Brothers - The Acrocryphals - Jimmy Ford and The Executives - Jimmy Rice and The Gentlemen (Jimmy and The Gents) - The Mystics - Tommy James and The Shondells - Marshal Tucker Band - Journey - Steve Miller Band - Chaka Kahn and Rufus - Poco - Cheap Trick

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 05.20.15 @ 14:49pm


I have been doing a rediscovery of Chicago lately and I come across some interesting tidbits about what some of the original members were doing before Chicago.

Walt was set to have a spot on the Chicago Sympathy. One of his De Paul professors was preparing him to take his place when he retired.

Terry, Danny and Walt were in both the Missing Links and Jimmy Ford and The Executives, a band that was with one of the two Dick Clark traveling shows.

Terry was in the Mystics and Jimmy Rice and The Gentlemen. According to Brian Higgens, another member of the Mystics, they recorded four songs that were never released. It sounds like Brian Higgens is trying to get them released.
timmwood.com/mystics

Peter was in Kal David and the Exceptions. They recorded on a Dick Campbell album with members of The Butterfield Blues Band. The Exceptions also several songs on their own. There are You Tube videos of the Dick Campbell album and several Exception songs. Peter Cetera sang the lead on the Exception's cover of You Always Hurt Me.

I came across a Kal David interview with Martin Ernst on You Tube in which he said a couple of interesting things. Calvin Carter put him with John Lee Hooker to learn. He was in a band that signed up with Vee Jay Records. Vee Jay would only have one white artist so they were released when Vee Jay signed The Beatles.



Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 05.21.15 @ 02:42am


Had an interesting article in one of the Brit rock mags recently about Terry Kath. Mr. Kath was a physically big man, 6' 2" and built like a linebacker. One of his bandmates said something to effect of 'Terry could handle more drugs than any human being I have ever seen. Way more than a normal bear. However, it was killing him.'

He & the roadie he was with were both messed up when Terry mishandled an automatic pistol that he had removed the magazine from (but forgot there was a round in the chamber) and accidently shot himself.

Was a sad article.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 05.21.15 @ 08:05am


@ Paul

I think Terry's death traumatized The band is what really caused the rift in the band.

Danny talks about Terry's death in his book, Street Player. If you haven't read it, Google Books has some exerts online.

Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 05.22.15 @ 01:16am


Thanks, Zuzu for that info. It might have been Danny who was reminiscing there. This band member actually got to the house & saw Terry dead before the police/ambulance got there.

It definitely was a mortal torpedo to the side of the band that I think should be in HOF.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 05.22.15 @ 07:05am


@Paul

It may well have been Danny, but I have a feeling they all may have been by Terry before emergency responders arrived. You don't happen to know if this article is online? I would love to read it.

I was born and raised in Chicago. One of the kids I went to High School with was from Peter Cetera's neighborhood. If you mentioned Chicago in front of this person, they were bouncing off the walls with excitement. These were our boys - our guys. They grew up in the same type of blue collar, working class neighborhoods that many of us did. They were one of us. In a sense, for me, Chicago not being in the Hall is personal.

Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 05.22.15 @ 16:43pm


Right!! I don't always weigh in on the Chicago section on here, but there is an element of regional conflict and class conflict here. Chicago started out, at least, as a blue-collar band, and these are the sorts of artists the Hall tends to look down their nose at in favor of artists that resonate with more middle-class audiences (Laura Nyro, Leonard Cohen, Randy Newman, etc.) and middle-class affectations toward the blues (PBBB, Albert King, etc.)

Posted by PopeCharming on Friday, 05.22.15 @ 17:01pm


@PopeCharming

I'm glad that somebody else also noticed the regional - class bias. I also think there is a bias towards certain styles to the point of over saturation and some wash rinse repeat in another form. Early Rock (R & B + Blues) - British Invasion - Motown - the California Sound - Disco. This is what the music industry was shoving down our throats.

I sometimes feel that someone is trying to cover their behind or their friends behind for poor decisions that were made. Then there is also the petty vendettas. Somebody has to be fueling some of the negative propaganda that gets put out there.

Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 05.22.15 @ 20:16pm


Chicago, Doobie Brothers, Yes, Emerson Lake ans Palmer, Journey .... These are the some non inductees that are the reason the R and R Hall of fame is a joke.

Posted by BLRotz on Tuesday, 05.26.15 @ 19:12pm


I came across a You Tube video of a 1972 interview of Chicago when they were in Australia. In it Jimmy said that they were not only influenced by Jazz. He said that they didn't like to limit themselves and took inspiration from various styles of music such as Classic, Pop and Country.

To me that sounds like Eclectic Rock Fusion. Were the critics in error by defining Chicago as just a Jazz Rock Band?

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 06.3.15 @ 21:13pm


The Chicago Blackhawks have won their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during a Barack Obama presidency. Chicago will be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 2016 or 2017.

First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Dustin Byfuglien becomes the first African-American hockey player in NHL history to win the Stanley Cup (Note: Black goaltenders Grant Fuhr and Eldon Reddick won the Stanley Cup with the Edmonton Oilers, but they were Canadians). Then in 2013 the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during a Barack Obama presidency. Three more black hockey players win the Stanley Cup: Ray Emery, Jamal Mayers, and Johnny Oduya. Obama and Oduya both have five letters and they both begin with the letter O and end with the letter a. Obama and Oduya both have Kenyan ancestry. Then in 2015 the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during a Barack Obama presidency. Johnny Oduya becomes the second black hockey player in NHL history behind Grant Fuhr to win more than one Stanley Cup championship. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 20??, during a Barack Obama presidency. Also, "Chicago" had seven letters and seven members until a game of rumored Russian Roulette. Then there were six, just like the six letters in "Barack", who is an "ally" of Russia. Keeping one's nuclear rivals close can be seen as a six-lettered gamble itself, and gambling was born of the Chicago mob scene. Seven Blackhawks on the ice would have been too many.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 06.16.15 @ 00:38am


http://digitaldreamdoor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4895&start=45

The Beatles and The Rolling Stones vs. The Beach Boys and Chicago

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 06.17.15 @ 23:30pm


there are a lot less groups in the hall so why it Chicago?

Posted by JeffI on Friday, 06.26.15 @ 11:03am


there are a lot less groups in the hall so why it Chicago?

Posted by JeffI on Friday, 06.26.15 @ 11:03am


http://www.futurerocklegends.com/statistics.php

Chicago has finally made it onto the "Most Yes Votes" list on the FRL Voting Statistics page. Thanks to the inductions of Rush, Nirvana, Green Day and Stevie Ray Vaughan and their removal from the page. Chicago is # 10 in YES votes on FRL.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.4.15 @ 12:06pm

Chicago is now at # 10 in the "Most Votes" list as well on the FRL Voting Statistics page. That's the list for yes and no votes combined.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 07.5.15 @ 06:37am


No Chicago, Doobie Brothers, or Styx.....No relevant Hall of Fame!

Posted by Money on Thursday, 07.9.15 @ 01:03am


POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO:

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, David Foster, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian "Ali" Campbell, Huey Lewis, Chris Isaak, Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Tom Morello, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 07.12.15 @ 19:14pm


Chicago is Bill Clinton's favorite band, as a friend of mine saw them perform in Arkansas after he made a speech. With his connections to Jann Wenner, I'm shocked there hasn't been much consideration.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Sunday, 07.12.15 @ 21:23pm


Finally got to see this band live a couple nights ago in St. Louis. EW&F opened for them and performed with them on some songs from the beginning and end. Great show, although it would have been fun if Peter Cetera were present (laughs). At least Robert Lamm and a couple original members were there, and they can still rock it out.

So....yeah, why are they not in the RRHOF? Me and thousands tend to dwell on this question. Its been more than 20 years since their first year of eligibility. Obviously something has been holding back the nomination crew. I haven't the time (yet) to read through all 509 comments (most of them by who else? Roy.) but I'm sure they speak for those who feel my curiosity. I'll go ahead and share at least maybe 5 reasons why they're not in there yet:

1) Too many band members. Who to induct and why?
2) Lack of innovation.
3) They were mostly remembered as a power-ballad band.
4) They're just another hit-making band.
5) The so-called professional critics have hated them since Day One.

For now, they're just an act where its proven no matter how many Top 10 and radio hits you have, you don't belong in the HOF. As I said in the previous comment, they do have their famous fans...most notably, Bill Clinton. And Clinton has strong connections with Mr. Wenner, or so I believe.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Sunday, 08.2.15 @ 20:10pm


Looking through the "one hit wonders" who ARE in the R&R Hall, I am amazed an all American group like Chicago who not only had many hits, but spanned many genres and over 40 years of amazing music! Did they not fit into someone's pre-made box of what is required? Why not look at Album and Single sales from 1964-1986? They tour today with many original members and always give a hell of a show. But a band in the 70's who toured with 2 percussionists (a rock kit and a Latin ), 4-5 keyboards with various players, a lineup of horns and flutes, guitars, and much more. No one has ever done this...and made money. Re-listen to "I'm a Man" . The long version. Good set of headphones. Then ask yourself again- Why were they not inducted 20 years ago? Oh! It's going to be a Posthumous Induction in another 20 years where all members are dead and their families can set their award by their Urn on the mantelpiece.

Posted by Katharine on Sunday, 08.23.15 @ 02:06am


Katharine,

While I do agree that Chicago had written quite a few great songs during their career; their best work had become radio hits. Between 1970 and 1984, Chicago's hit songs had dominated the airwaves. What is not to like about Peter Cetera's, or Robert Lamm's vocals? I do not believe that the members of Chicago will be inducted posthumously, but they really need to get Peter Cetera back, to most people, he was the voice of Chicago, plus he had written, or co-written quite a few of their most successful songs. The members of Chicago made a serious error by not allowing him to have a solo career at the same time. Had they done so, I have no doubt that he would have stayed and Chicago would have been inducted years ago.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08.23.15 @ 11:54am


Katharine,

While I do agree that Chicago had written quite a few great songs during their career; their best work had become radio hits. Between 1970 and 1984, Chicago's hit songs had dominated the airwaves. What is not to like about Peter Cetera's, or Robert Lamm's vocals? I do not believe that the members of Chicago will be inducted posthumously, but they really need to get Peter Cetera back. As far as most people, are concerned, he was the voice of Chicago. Additionally, Peter had written, or co-written quite a few of their most successful songs. The members of Chicago had made a very serious error by not allowing him to have a solo career at the same time. Had they done so, I have no doubt that he would have stayed and Chicago would have been inducted years, possibly even decades ago.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08.23.15 @ 12:03pm


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/terrykath/searching-for-terry-the-man-behind-the-guitar

Searching for Terry : The Man Behind the Guitar by Michelle Kath

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.29.15 @ 21:09pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP4bm-T-1-E

Terry Kath Documentary Trailer

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 08.29.15 @ 21:51pm


POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO:

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, David Foster, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Shmit, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian "Ali" Campbell, Huey Lewis, Chris Isaak, Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Tom Morello, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09.2.15 @ 08:58am


@Jason Voigt

No Terry, Peter or Danny - you didn't see the real Chicago but only a shadow of what they really were. You need check out videos of the 72 Japan concert at Bodukan and you'll see what I mean.

1) Too many band members. Who to induct and why?

Most fans would want just the original 7 and I think many of those would be ok with Laudir de Oliveira being added. Band members would probably want everybody. I don't see this being a problem with Danny and Peter with the exception that Peter might push to also add his brother Kenny and his high school buddy Marty Grebb added.
The Hall is actually the one that would create any drama and as usual be the problem - so why should Chicago be penalized for their childishness?

3) They were mostly remembered as a power-ballad band.

Says who - not the kids. Check out the crowds reaction to the 70's songs especially 25 or 6 to 4 and for the record If You Leave Me Now is the most covered Chicago song.

youtube.com/watch?v=-DPv7OOt7iw
youtube.com/watch?v=FzcbN61ly_k

Is this propaganda put out by Cheese-wiz factory?

4) They're just another hit-making band.

I guess that means Elvis, the Beatles and the Beach Boys need to be kicked out of the Hall.

5) The so-called professional critics have hated them since Day One.

Jann Wenner and his corporate cronnies had a vendetta against Chicago. this was going around back in the 70's. Check out Chicago on Google newspapers - not all critics were and are in Jann Wenner's back pants pocket.

2) Lack of innovation.

You really need to validate your sources and check if they are reliable.

Chicago was considered the most easily recognizable band of the 70's. This means they were different and that takes innovation.

In several articles I have read that Chicago took integration of the horns to anew level. According to Lee what Chicago did was use the horns as a lead instrument.

When Chicago changed their name from CTA to Chicago they did something that I can't find anybody else before doing.

Gibson used Peter Cetera for its bass ads. They were targeting musicians and I doubt they would respect somebody that was not doing something innovative. Google Peter Cetera and bass to see what actual bass players have to say about him. I believe you will find he is very respected bass player.

The switch from baritone to tenor being the standard occurred in the early 70's. Who do you think led the way - the singer defined as an elastic tenor who gets in your head and stays there or the guy defined as struggling and straining and still not getting it up there?

Chicago pushed the use of the 2 part song. In his book Danny explains how the record company gave them problems with the suites. The 2 part song was a way around this and became associated with Chicago. By the end of the 70's the 2 part song being played on even top 40 AM radio stations became a common occurrence.

You brought up 80's Chicago, but were you aware that metal prog was influenced by 80's Chicago or that several R & B artists sampled 80's Chicago songs? It may not be your favorite era of Chicago music but some professional musicians found it innovative and were influenced by it.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 09.2.15 @ 16:01pm


Ahhhh, Peter Cetera does not want Kenny Cetera and Marty Grebb inducted with Chicago! Why would you even mention that? They were not members of Chicago. Peter Cetera isn't crazy like that.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09.2.15 @ 23:28pm


Roy

Wiki lists both as touring musicians. I think the years listed may be wrong. On the internet I have come across Marty Grebb saying he shared a room with Terry when they traveled and that Kenny filled in for Oliveira when he left. When Chicago appeared on the Merv Griffen Show in 1980, Marty Grebb was introduced as a member of the band.

I came across an interview where Walt says that they had problem with a tribute band that was giving them competition. He also said this band had former "members" of Chicago. Note he used a plural - so he couldn't have been talking about Danny's band.

The only tribute band that I have come across that could be the one that Walt was talking about is Chicago's Finest. It contained: Chris Pinnick, Marty Grebb and Kenny Cetera. So I think it is reasonable to question whether Marty Grebb and Kenny Cetera were members of Chicago or just hired hands.

youtube.com/watch?v=A7tyV2Gm7qU
youtube.com/watch?v=bzkB66Ibhq4
youtube.com/watch?v=EyB-QJPpVVA

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 09.3.15 @ 08:06am


Roy

I searched and I need to modify what Walt said in the interview. Sorry, I must have been remembering something else I read in regards to the plural. The interview was in Jam Magazine. Walt mentions needing to send out a cease and desist order and the question asked pertained to splinter groups. As far as I know Danny's band just released a cd in 2013 - so I don't think Walt was talking about Danny.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 09.3.15 @ 08:55am


Kenny Cetera and Marty Grebb were only hired hands. Read the booklets of the last 7 Chicago Greatest Hits albums. They list the names of all the official members of Chicago. The Heart Vol. I & II, The Best, The Very Best, Love Songs, The Box Set. I'm just saying that Kenny Cetera and Marty Grebb will not be included in the induction, and Chicago is not going to push for that.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.3.15 @ 09:59am


Chicago will have between 7 to 11 inductees. This is who qualifies:

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

CHICAGO


01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Laudir De Oliveira (1973-1980: congas; percussions; songwriter; Sergio Mendes)
09. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter; The Sons Of Champlin)
10. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter; The Keane Brothers; Keane)
11. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter; Honk; Firefall)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.3.15 @ 10:04am


When Chicago is finally nominated for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, I hope Robert Lamm Walter Parazaider, James Pankow and Lee Loughnane will make an effort to make sure the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame listens to them when it comes to which additional members of Chicago to induct along with the 7 original members.

I can tell you right now that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will not include guitarists Donnie Dacus, Chris Pinnick or DaWayne Bailey as inductees because they were all short-lived, non-original members of Chicago. Keith Howland and Lou Pardini will not be inducted because they were very, very late arrivals to the band.

Along with the 7 original members of Chicago, these are the additional members of Chicago who can and should be inducted: Laudir De Oliveira, Bill Champlin, Jason Scheff, and Tris Imboden.

Laudir De Oliveira was Chicago's 8th member. He was with the band for 7 years and he performed on 10 Chicago albums, including all 5 of Chicago's number 1 albums.

Bill Champlin was with Chicago for 28 years and 9 studio albums. He played a big part in the Chicago 80s comeback. His lead voice is heard on the radio on the Chicago top 10 hits, Hard Habit To Break, Will You Still Love Me, I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love, You're Not Alone, and the number 1 hit, Look Away.

Jason Scheff has been with Chicago for 30 years now. It would look very odd if the guy who replaced Peter Cetera in Chicago is not included as an inductee into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Jason Scheff has been on 8 Chicago studio albums and his voice is still heard on the radio on Chicago's top 10 hits, Will You Still Love Me and What Kind Of Man Would I Be.

If Timothy B. Schmit of Poco and Joe Walsh of The James Gang were inducted with the Eagles, and Sammy Hagar of Montrose was inducted with Van Halen, then Bill Champlin of The Sons of Champlin and Jason Scheff should be inducted with Chicago. They shouldn't be treated any differently.

Tris Imboden marks his 25th year as Chicago's drummer this year. He should be inducted as well.

I think Chicago's case is a little similar to The E Street Band.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.3.15 @ 10:50am


Roy

I still find it odd that Marty Grebb is on the Merv Griffen Show with Chicago and being introduced as a member of the band. Now there is also the question of who Walt was talking about in the Jam interview.

By the way there were two benefit concerts for Marty Grebb earlier this year to help with medical bills from his fight with cancer. One in LA with Bonnie Raitt and one in the Chicago region with Danny and Hawk Wolinski.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 09.3.15 @ 11:01am


I will have to check the credits again on the Chicago XIV album to see if Marty Grebb is credited anywhere because the horn section was on drugs and couldn't perform on early 80s Chicago records. They weren't even really performing on the Merv Griffen Show, they were lip-singing while the album track played in the background. So it was pointless to have Marty Grebb there with them. Maybe they were on tour at the time. Chicago has had other horn players sub for Walter Parazaider recently in concerts whenever he is ill.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 09.3.15 @ 23:14pm


Marty Grebb plays several instruments. His father was a big band musician and made sure both Marty Grebb and his brother learned several instruments. He also filled in for Bobby at times.

The lip-syncing was fairly common at the time and I believe some of the shows required it. I remember American Bandstand did it all the time. Read the You Tube comments about what Peter was on Thunder and Lightening which they did on Merv Griffen.

Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 09.4.15 @ 18:51pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oAoSZ2y1cw

Chicago - Full Concert - 07/21/70 - Tanglewood (OFFICIAL)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09.6.15 @ 07:46am


When Chicago is finally nominated for and inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, I hope Robert Lamm, Walter Parazaider, James Pankow and Lee Loughnane will make an effort to make sure the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame listens to them and inducts not only the original 7 members of the band, but also the 4 most important later members of the band.

I can tell you right now that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will not include guitarists Donnie Dacus, Chris Pinnick or DaWayne Bailey as inductees because they were all short-lived, non-original members of Chicago. Keith Howland and Lou Pardini will not be inducted because they were very, very late arrivals to the band. Their inclusion as inductees is not necessary and I'm pretty sure they don't care about it.

Along with the 7 original members of Chicago, these are the 4 additional members of Chicago who can and should be inducted: Laudir De Oliveira, Bill Champlin, Jason Scheff, and Tris Imboden.

Laudir De Oliveira was Chicago's 8th member. He was with the band for 7 years and he performed on 10 Chicago albums, including all 5 of Chicago's number 1 albums.

Bill Champlin was with Chicago for 28 years and 9 studio albums. He played a big part in the Chicago 80s comeback. His lead voice is heard on the radio on the Chicago top 10 hits, Hard Habit To Break, Will You Still Love Me, I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love, You're Not Alone, and the number 1 hit, Look Away.

Jason Scheff has been with Chicago for 30 years now. It would look very odd if the guy who replaced Peter Cetera in Chicago is not included as an inductee into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Jason Scheff has been on 8 Chicago studio albums and his voice is still heard on the radio on Chicago's top 10 hits, Will You Still Love Me and What Kind Of Man Would I Be.

If Timothy B. Schmit of Poco and Joe Walsh of The James Gang were inducted with the Eagles, and Sammy Hagar of Montrose was inducted with Van Halen, then Bill Champlin of The Sons of Champlin and Jason Scheff should be inducted with Chicago. They shouldn't be treated any differently.

Tris Imboden marks his 25th year as Chicago's drummer this year. He should be inducted as well.

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
THE CHICAGO INDUCTEES

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Laudir De Oliveira (1973-1980: congas; percussions; songwriter)
09. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter)
10. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
11. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter)

BANDS WITH 10 OR MORE MEMBERS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Parliament-Funkadelic (16 Members Inducted in 1997)
02. The Grateful Dead (12 Members Inducted in 1994)
03. Bill Haley And The Comets (11 Members Inducted in 1987/2012)
04. Bruce Springsteen And The E Street Band (11 Members Inducted in 1999/2014)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09.8.15 @ 08:22am


I was right! Chicago will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame during a Barack Obama presidency! I don't like the photo they chose to use for Chicago on the Rock Hall website.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.8.15 @ 05:31am


https://rockhall.com/inductees/nominees/2016-chicago/

The intro to Chicago on the Rock Hall website only mentions James Pankow and then it says Chicago’s early lineup created such an unmistakable sound. I don't know if this means that only the 7 original members will be inducted.

Fusing jazz and rock together in a time when the Beatles were still crashing onto the American shores and psychedelic rock was taking over the basements of teenagers; Chicago Transit Authority broke onto the scene unapologetically in 1969 with their self-titled double album, Chicago Transit Authority. A brazen mix of soulful rock, pop and jazz coupled with protester’s chants from the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention; the album received critical acclaim and later produced the classic singles “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?” and “Beginnings.” As the band began touring, under pressure from the city of Chicago, they shortened their name to simply, Chicago, and later released their second self-titled album, Chicago, in 1970. The center track, “Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon,” is a seven-part, 13-minute suite of pure melodic perfection composed by James Pankow who merged his love of classical, long song styles with Chicago’s signature sound. It yielded two unexpected singles “Make Me Smile” and “Colour My World” that quickly took the charts by storm reaching the Top 10 on Billboard’s Hot 100. From their inception through to the late 1970’s, Chicago mastered the art of making melodic jazz tinged rock with a keen pop sensibility. The group had a long string of jazz-rock mega hits including: “Make Me Smile,” “Saturday In The Park,” “25 Or 6 To 4,” “Feelin Stronger Every Day,” “If You Leave Me Now” and many others. Chicago’s early lineup created such an unmistakable sound. With over 21 Top 10 singles, five consecutive Number One albums, 11 Number One singles, fans that stretch across the globe and countless bands that have followed in their wake, Chicago’s legacy is unquestionable.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.8.15 @ 05:47am


Roy, praise not the Chicago induction until the Chicago induction has occurred.

They've just been nominated.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 10.8.15 @ 10:22am


www.chicagotheband.com/news/

Chicago Reports on Their Nomination

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.8.15 @ 17:08pm


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME : CHICAGO



THIS IS HOW CHICAGO SHOULD BE REMEMBERED ON ROCK HALL DOT COM/ORG

Suggestion has been emailed to the Rock Hall by me!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.8.15 @ 20:20pm


http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6722672/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-2016-nominees-cheap-trick-chicago-react

"On behalf of the members of the band Chicago, past and present, I am grateful for the creative life that Music continues to provide. We are surprised and honored to be nominated," Chicago's Robert Lamm told Billboard.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.9.15 @ 07:56am


Chicago is the all-time best selling act and highest Billboard charting act on this year's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ballot. It makes sense that they are number one in the official Rock and Roll Hall of Fame fan poll and the Future Rock Legends poll because this is Chicago!

The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys, The Bee Gees, Chicago!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.9.15 @ 13:31pm


Actually, Roy, Janet is the biggest singles act on the ballot. According to Joel Whitburn's latest edition of Top Pop Singles, Janet Jackson ranks 8th, where as Chicago is 23rd.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 10.9.15 @ 13:42pm


When you combine the all-time point total for the Billboard 100 singles chart and the point total for the Billboard 200 albums chart, Chicago is number 1.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.9.15 @ 16:50pm


I imagine if you include the point totals for the R&B charts, the Dance charts, Janet pulls ahead, though the AC charts will certainly be Chicago's territory, too.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 10.9.15 @ 18:17pm


Roy,

I recall reading that the sale totals is a combination of all US album and single sales. How it charted would not matter.

Philip,

The Jackson family has been known to inflate sales numbers in books. What counts is the official records.

Posted by Zuzu on Friday, 10.9.15 @ 19:15pm


Whether it's the charts or the sales, Chicago is ahead of all the other 2016 nominees on both counts. The poll shows Chicago fans are out in full force. Chicago will be inducted in 2016. I will update my Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction speech for Chicago to include the result of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame official fan poll.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.9.15 @ 20:00pm


Zuzu, I'm not going on any books that the Jackson family had a hand in. I'm using the information from Record Research, the foremost authority on exactly this type of information. If you care more about singles than albums, Janet's the leader. If it's all about the LPs, it's Chicago.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 10.9.15 @ 22:01pm


http://petercetera.com

No reaction yet from Peter Cetera on Chicago's nomination.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.10.15 @ 13:51pm


Why is it okay for Timothy B. Schmit and Joe Walsh to be inducted with the Eagles ("I Can't Tell You Why" and "The Long Run"), but not okay for Bill Champlin and Jason Scheff to be inducted with Chicago ("Will You Still Love Me" and "Look Away")?

Timothy B. Schmit and Joe Walsh were with the Eagles for only one or two albums before the Eagles broke up in 1980 and then reunited in 1994 for Hell Freezes Over ("Love Will Keep Us Alive" and "Get Over It").

I've sent emails to Chicago's management and to members of the Rock Hall committee explaining to them why Laudir De Oliveira, Bill Champlin, Jason Scheff and Tris Imboden should be inducted with Chicago.

When Chicago is finally inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, I hope Robert Lamm, Walter Parazaider, James Pankow and Lee Loughnane will make an effort to make sure the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame listens to them and inducts not only the original 7 members of the band, but also the 4 most important later members of the band.

I can tell you right now that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will not include guitarists Donnie Dacus, Chris Pinnick or DaWayne Bailey as inductees because they were all short-lived, non-original members of Chicago. Keith Howland and Lou Pardini will not be inducted because they were very, very late arrivals to the band. Their inclusion as inductees is not necessary and I'm pretty sure they don't care about it.

Along with the 7 original members of Chicago, these are the 4 additional members of Chicago who can and should be inducted: Laudir De Oliveira, Bill Champlin, Jason Scheff, and Tris Imboden.

Laudir De Oliveira was Chicago's 8th member. He was with the band for 7 years and he performed on 10 Chicago albums, including all 5 of Chicago's number 1 albums.

Bill Champlin was with Chicago for 28 years and 9 studio albums. He played a big part in the Chicago 80s comeback. His lead voice is heard on the radio on the Chicago top 10 hits, Hard Habit To Break, Will You Still Love Me, I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love, You're Not Alone, and the number 1 hit, Look Away.

Jason Scheff has been with Chicago for 30 years now. It would look very odd if the guy who replaced Peter Cetera in Chicago is not included as an inductee into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Jason Scheff has been on 8 Chicago studio albums and his voice is still heard on the radio on Chicago's top 10 hits, Will You Still Love Me and What Kind Of Man Would I Be.

If Timothy B. Schmit of Poco and Joe Walsh of The James Gang were inducted with the Eagles, and Sammy Hagar of Montrose was inducted with Van Halen, then Bill Champlin of The Sons of Champlin and Jason Scheff should be inducted with Chicago. They shouldn't be treated any differently.

Tris Imboden marks his 25th year as Chicago's drummer this year. He should be inducted as well.

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME
THE CHICAGO INDUCTEES

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Laudir De Oliveira (1973-1980: congas; percussions; songwriter)
09. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter)
10. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
11. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter)

BANDS WITH 10 OR MORE MEMBERS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. Parliament-Funkadelic (16 Members Inducted in 1997)
02. The Grateful Dead (12 Members Inducted in 1994)
03. Bill Haley And The Comets (11 Members Inducted in 1987/2012)
04. Bruce Springsteen And The E Street Band (11 Members Inducted in 1999/2014)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.11.15 @ 06:00am


I think Schmidt and Walsh were inducted with The Eagles partly due to name recognition.

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 10.11.15 @ 08:13am


Roy,

I think you may find that some fans would object to Bill Champlin and Jason Scheff. There is one floating out there on the internet that Bill Champlin and Jason Scheff had come up with a ultimatum that they go or Danny goes and that is why Danny was fired. Danny is Chicago. Bill Champlin and Jason Scheff are not. Anyway who wants to hear the kid sing when you have the genuine article and his vocal ability is 1,000 times better.

I've read that it was Bill Champlin got the band to hire David Foster as a manager. A lot of fans do not like David Foster for what he did with Chicago. A lot of people do not like David Foster for what he did with several artist.

Considering Los Lobos are the only Hispanics on the ballot, I would be surprised that they wouldn't include Laudir De Oliveira since he is Brazilian and a Latino.

In your list you have two drummers, two bass players and two keyboardist. Yet the list has no living guitarist. Chris Pinnick was playing guitar and not Bill Champlin. Bill Champlin may play guitar but does he play it well enough.

Has Danny said anything?

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 10.11.15 @ 09:54am


Danny Seraphine and Bill Champlin have patched things up. Champlin has been touring with Seraphine's California Transit Authority, and I think he was on the last album as well. Champlin was fired via email by the four remaining original Chicago members in 2009.

Jason Scheff doesn't have to sing at the induction ceremony. He could just play bass. I'm sure Imboden and Scheff wouldn't mind sitting out of the performance and letting Danny Seraphine and Peter Cetera perform. Guns 'N Roses second drummer did not perform at the ceremony, but he picked up his trophy. Scheff and Imboden should still be inducted, even if they don't perform.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.11.15 @ 12:43pm


Zuzu wrote:
Roy,

In your list you have two drummers, two bass players and two keyboardist. Yet the list has no living guitarist. Chris Pinnick was playing guitar and not Bill Champlin. Bill Champlin may play guitar but does he play it well enough.

Has Danny said anything?
Sunday, 10.11.15 @ 09:54am

Danny has not commented yet. Keith Howland is Chicago's current guitarist. He won't be inducted, but will most likely perform with Chicago at the ceremony.

I'll get back to you on Champlin's guitar playing, once I find the videos on youtube. I have a few concerts in mind.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.11.15 @ 12:53pm


http://twitter.com/dannyseraphine/with_replies

Danny Seraphine tweets a link to the Rock Hall poll

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.11.15 @ 14:23pm


http://twitter.com/chicagotheband

Chicago tweets a link to the Rock Hall poll

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.11.15 @ 14:32pm


CHICAGO : THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART

01. 1969 - # 17 - The Chicago Transit Authority
02. 1970 - # 4 - Chicago
03. 1971 - # 2 - Chicago III
04. 1972 - # 3 - Chicago At Carnegie Hall
05. 1972 - # 1 - Chicago V
06. 1973 - # 1 - Chicago VI
07. 1974 - # 1 - Chicago VII
08. 1975 - # 1 - Chicago VIII
09. 1975 - # 1 - Chicago IX: Greatest Hits
10. 1976 - # 3 - Chicago X
11. 1977 - # 6 - Chicago XI
12. 1978 - # 12 - Hot Streets
13. 1979 - # 21 - Chicago 13
14. 1980 - # 71 - Chicago XIV
15. 1981 - # 171 - Greatest Hits Volume II
16. 1982 - # 9 - Chicago 16
17. 1984 - # 4 - Chicago 17
18. 1987 - # 35 - Chicago 18
19. 1988 - # 37 - Chicago 19
20. 1989 - # 37 - Greatest Hits 1982-1989
21. 1991 - # 66 - Twenty 1
22. 1995 - # 90 - Night And Day
23. 1997 - # 55 - The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1997
24. 1998 - # 154 - The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1998 Volume II
25. 1998 - # 47 - Chicago 25: The Christmas Album
26. 2002 - # 20 - The Very Best Of Chicago: Only The Beginning
27. 2003 - # 102 - Chicago Christmas: What's It Gonna Be Santa?
28. 2005 - # 57 - Love Songs
29. 2006 - # 41 - Chicago XXX
30. 2007 - # 100 - The Best Of Chicago: 40th Anniversary Edition
31. 2008 - # 122 - Chicago XXXII: Stone Of Sisyphus
32. 2011 - # 170 - Chicago XXXIII: O Christmas Three
33. 2014 - # 82 - Chicago XXXVI: Now

CHICAGO : THE BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES CHART

01. 1969 - # 71 – Questions 67 And 68
02. 1970 - # 9 – Make Me Smile
03. 1970 - # 4 – 25 Or 6 To 4
04. 1970 - # 7 – Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
05. 1971 - # 20 – Free
06. 1971 - # 35 – Lowdown
07. 1971 - # 7 – Beginnings
08. 1971 - # 7 – Colour My World
09. 1971 - # 24 – Questions 67 And 68
10. 1971 - # 49 – I’m A Man
11. 1972 - # 3 – Saturday In The Park
12. 1972 - # 24 – Dialogue (Part I & II)
13. 1973 - # 10 – Feelin’ Stronger Every Day
14. 1973 - # 4 – Just You ‘N’ Me
15. 1974 - # 9 – (I’ve Been) Searchin’ So Long
16. 1974 - # 6 – Call On Me
17. 1974 - # 11 – Wishing You Were Here
18. 1975 - # 13 – Harry Truman
19. 1975 - # 5 – Old Days
20. 1975 - # 61 – Brand New Love Affair (Part I & II)
21. 1976 - # 32 – Another Rainy Day In New York City
22. 1976 - # 1 – If You Leave Me Now
23. 1977 - # 49 – You Are On My Mind
24. 1977 - # 4 – Baby, What A Big Surprise
25. 1978 - # 44 – Little One
26. 1978 - # 63 – Take Me Back To Chicago
27. 1978 - # 14 – Alive Again
28. 1978 - # 14 – No Tell Lover
29. 1979 - # 73 – Gone Long Gone
30. 1979 - # 83 – Must Have Been Crazy
31. 1980 - # 56 – Thunder And Lightning
32. 1982 - # 1 – Hard To Say I’m Sorry
33. 1982 - # 22 – Love Me Tomorrow
34. 1983 - # 81 – What You’re Missing
35. 1984 - # 16 – Stay The Night
36. 1984 - # 3 – Hard Habit To Break
37. 1984 - # 3 – You’re The Inspiration
38. 1985 - # 14 – Along Comes A Woman
39. 1986 - # 48 – 25 Or 6 To 4
40. 1986 - # 3 – Will You Still Love Me?
41. 1987 - # 17 – If She Would Have Been Faithful…
42. 1987 - # 91 – Niagara Falls
43. 1988 - # 3 – I Don’t Wanna Live Without Your Love
44. 1988 - # 1 – Look Away
45. 1989 - # 10 – You’re Not Alone
46. 1989 - # 55 – We Can Last Forever
47. 1989 - # 5 – What Kind Of Man Would I Be?
48. 1990 - # 75 – Hearts In Trouble
49. 1991 - # 39 – Chasin’ The Wind
50. 1997 - # 59 – Here In My Heart

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.12.15 @ 16:37pm


The Chicago Cubs might win the World Series this year!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.15.15 @ 12:07pm


Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.15.15 @ 14:14pm


https://www.facebook.com/Chicago.Official?fref=ts

Chicago has changed the cover photo on their official Facebook page. It's a photo on the original 7 members. They must know something.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.15.15 @ 14:48pm


I think the Rock Hall members found all my emails to them to be funny, and now they too want to see Chicago inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame during a Barack Obama presidency.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.15.15 @ 15:02pm


Chicago will be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame the year after the Paul Butterfield Blues Band was inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band are from Chicago and they had a song called Born In Chicago. This is being done on purpose.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.16.15 @ 07:52am


You can add Chris Cornell of Soundgarden as a possibility for giving the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction speech for Chicago.

"SOUNDGARDEN's Chris Cornell had Kath's vocal style in mind when he plugged in to record his first solo effort, Euphoria Morning (A&M).

"When we started recording this album, recalled Cornell, " I told everyone involved that I was hearing vocally was white soul from the late '60s and early '70s, singers like Terry Kath. Because back then, it was cool to be a blue-eyed soul singer. It was still aggressive and kind of dangerous. It isn't merely white guys trying to sound black., Kath's style was a natural influence that was being incorporated into what we did. He was almost overly dramatic, but in a really cool way. I like that." - CHRIS CORNELL (Soundgarden)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.17.15 @ 08:52am


POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, David Foster, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Shmit, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian "Ali" Campbell, Huey Lewis, Chris Isaak, Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Chris Cornell, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Tom Morello, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.17.15 @ 09:01am


I was surprised! No one has mentioned the late great Terry Kath of Chicago. This band is really underrated.

Here's an excerpt from Guitar One Magazine.

Chicago's original guitarist, vocalist and songwriter Terry Kath was real bluesy and very soulful. Listen to his songs from the first album "Chicago Transit Authority" to his last album with the band before he died, "Chicago XI. Soundgarden's Chris Cornell admires Terry Kath's vocal style and admitted that that he had Kath's vocal style in mind when he plugged in to record his first solo effort, "Euphoria Morning" (A&M). "When we started recording this album," recalled Cornell, "I told everyone involved that what I was hearing vocally was white soul from the late '60s and early '70s, singers like Terry Kath. Because back then, it was cool to be a blue-eyed soul singer. It was still aggressive and kind of dangerous. It wasn't merely white guys trying to sound black, it was a natural influence that was being incorporated into what they did. They were almost overly dramatic, but in a really cool way. I like that."

Aside from being a good bluesy singer, he's a monster when it comes to guitar playing.

SOURCE: Guitar One Magazine August 2001 issue.
ARTICLE TITLE: Gone Too Soon - A Tribute To 65 Fallen Heroes"

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.17.15 @ 09:12am


Roy, another good person to induct Chicago would be Pope Francis.

Posted by Dezmond on Saturday, 10.17.15 @ 10:54am


Actually, the Rock Hall could get Al Kooper or Bobby Colomby to induct Chicago, to suggest that Blood, Sweat & Tears will be nominated next year.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.17.15 @ 18:19pm


Bill Clinton is a Chicago fan. Bill Clinton plays the saxophone. Bill Clinton played the saxophone on the Arsenio Hall Show in 1992, the same year that Peter Cetera appeared on the Arsenio Hall Show, twice.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.18.15 @ 15:13pm


Yes, I know. And the fact that Clinton was on in the same year as Cetera cannot be mere coincidence. This is why I predict that Chicago will be inducted be a special delegation consisting of Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Pope Francis and a returned Jesus Christ. Also, the world will be so excited that Peter Cetera has decided to rejoin his old band for one night only for a transcendent version of "Along Comes a Woman" that the next day there will be a lasting peace accord between the Israelis and Palestinians.

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 10.18.15 @ 21:19pm


So true Dezmond, as was foretold in Parts I AND II of the Dialogue of St. Peter.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 10.18.15 @ 22:35pm


POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, David Foster, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Al Kooper, Bobby Colomby, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Shmit, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian "Ali" Campbell, Huey Lewis, Johnny Colla, Chris Isaak, Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Chris Cornell, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Tom Morello, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.19.15 @ 08:46am


http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/2015/10/cubs_win_world_series_in_2015.html

Chicago Cubs will win World Series in 2015 -- 'Back to the Future Part II' predicted it

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.20.15 @ 08:05am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADXs2C4Vmho

Put some money on the cubbies

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.20.15 @ 08:32am


CHICAGO ILLUMINATI UPDATE

First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Dustin Byfuglien becomes the first African-American hockey player in NHL history to win the Stanley Cup (Note: Black goaltenders Grant Fuhr and Eldon Reddick won the Stanley Cup with the Edmonton Oilers, but they were Canadians). Then in 2013 the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during a Barack Obama presidency. Three more black hockey players win the Stanley Cup: Ray Emery, Jamal Mayers, and Johnny Oduya. Obama and Oduya both have five letters and they both begin with the letter O and end with the letter a. Obama and Oduya both have Kenyan ancestry. Then in 2015 the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during a Barack Obama presidency. Johnny Oduya becomes the second black hockey player in NHL history behind Grant Fuhr to win more than one Stanley Cup championship. Then in 2015, Major League Baseball's Chicago Cubs win the World Series, which was predicted in the 1989 Back To The Future II movie. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016, during a Barack Obama presidency.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.20.15 @ 09:20am


Roy,

You did know that Obama is a Sox fan? If you are from Chicago you are one or the other not both. Kevin Cronin is the Hawks fan. REO's Riding The Storm Out is played at Hawks games.

You might be on to something about the Cubs. There was the Dodgers Stadium incident that resulted in Peter getting his jaw wired shut. The whole band are cubbies at least the originals. But Steve Goodman wrote Go Cubs Go and his ashes were dispersed in Wrigley.

Now the big one. The World Series has not been played yet. The division playoffs are still going on. right now the Cubs are 0-2 against the Mets.

Cubbies believe in curses. They will do just about anything to break a curse - eat goat meat - blow up baseballs. So this year may become known as the curse of Roy.

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10.20.15 @ 09:56am


The bots that ruined the fan poll have destroyed the Cubs too! The Mets are moving on, the Cubs, not so much. The Illuminati have been held at bay. Now maybe the Cubs had to be sacrificed so the band could get in this year, but the band's fans have only been waiting since 94/95. The Cubs' fans have been waiting since 1908. Quit cutting in line, Cetera!

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 10.21.15 @ 23:55pm


You did know that Obama is a Sox fan? If you are from Chicago you are one or the other not both.


Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 10.20.15 @ 09:56am


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Well, I was born in South Bend, Indiana, lived 70 miles outside Chicago, inside NW Indiana's Central Time Zone Chicagoland area and I've always been a fan of both The Cubbies and White Sox!

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 01:20am


The bots that ruined the fan poll have destroyed the Cubs too! The Mets are moving on, the Cubs, not so much. The Illuminati have been held at bay. Now maybe the Cubs had to be sacrificed so the band could get in this year, but the band's fans have only been waiting since 94/95. The Cubs' fans have been waiting since 1908. Quit cutting in line, Cetera!

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 10.21.15 @ 23:55pm


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LOL

Well, as usual, maybe next year, I think they will win one sooner than later, by 2018, interesting how Da Cubs swept the New York Mets in a 7-game regular season sweep, their first such sweep of that many games since 1885, when Back to the Future Part III happened, yet could do nothing against Murphy, this player who has that 1945 goat's infamous name, in an 0-4 NLCS sweep, 1969 all over again, but it ends differently!

:-(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 01:35am


Well, I was born in South Bend, Indiana, lived 70 miles outside Chicago, inside NW Indiana's Central Time Zone Chicagoland area and I've always been a fan of both The Cubbies and White Sox!

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 01:20am


I have a general idea where South Bend is. I also know who Digger Phelps was. ;) I used to go up to New Buffalo in the summers when I was little. Never could figure out the time zone differences. Isn't there somewhere around there that doesn't change clocks? I can't remember if it was in Indiana or Michigan. The camp I went to was on Chicago time.
South Bend is not Chicago. It's actually one way to tell right off the bat if somebody is actually from Chicago or the burbs. Burbies will either not declare a team or will say both. If you were actually born and raised in Chicago it is one or the other. I grew up close enough to Comiskey to hear the scoreboard.

:)


Bots? Proof --- and none of those phoney baloney numbers please. While you're at it maybe you should also show what was going on with another person's numbers. Fans don't run up numbers and walk away. So who was running up those numbers? Hmmmm! I wonder who.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 02:40am


Got a beach house I could sell you in Idaho if you don't think there were bots ruining the fan vote.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 07:38am


some people are complaining yet I don't see proof. Nobody took screen shots? Let's have screenshots at 2 or 3 hour intervals. Let's show everybody what really was happening.

Let's see who was the one that was really doing something funny. This was a free for all poll. People set their buts down on a chair in front of a computer and vote. When somebody else is catching up or getting ahead fans react and do something. You don't go from about 400,000 to over 3,000,000 in as little as a few hours and do barely anything for the next day or so when others pass you up.

Now that is funny. Then you go and complain about it.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 10:00am


Leave Chicago alone! This is Chicago!! Everyone in the Rock Hall poll is being botted, some more than others. Chicago is # 1 for a reason!!! Have you heard of Heavy Metal's Holy Trinity - Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple? Well, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys, Chicago and the Bee Gees are Rock and Roll's Holy Quintet on the Billboard Charts! Chicago at # 1 in the Rock Hall poll makes sense! Get over it! Chicago will be inducted in 2016! This is Chicago, not Boston or Kansas.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 10:50am


Did you forget to take your meds this morning, Roy? Calm down. "This is Chicago!!" So what? Look, the process is fraudulent. Perhaps Chicago deserves or would be #1 in the poll right now, perhaps not. We will never know because the integrity of the whole process has been compromise. My favorite band of the nominees is The Cars, and they have also benefited from the fraudulent voting. I'm happy they will get a vote through the Fan Ballot. But it is still a fraud.

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 12:41pm


What fraud? Did you mean the one that went from about 400,000 to about 3,000,000 and then poof disappeared? What fans do that? Let's stop the accusations and actually start showing some proof. Let's start seeing screenshots at regular intervals for that first week.

It's all fine and dandy to come up with accusations after the fact but if somebody thought something funny was going on than why didn't they document it? Where are the screenshots? There is a word for baseless accusations. It's called propaganda.

Like Roy said this is Chicago. One of the Big Four. It isn't Boston and it isn't Kansas. It is Chicago.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 13:04pm


Again, so what if it's Chicago. I think Future Rock Legends has documented what happened quite well, I am not going to rehash what he has already shown so well. Just look at the numbers and refer to what FRL wrote. Why didn't anyone prove with screen shots? I don't know. I don't care that much because the Fan Ballot means very little in reality. It is one ballot out of hundreds. Also, my Cars benefit, so great. They get a vote. I don't really care if the vote is fraudulent or not. What I do mind is people who are so blinded by their love for a band that they cannot see reality right in front of them. That is more annoying than a fraudulent Fan Poll. Just take the Chicago vote and be happy with it.

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 14:09pm


Again, so what if it's Chicago. I think Future Rock Legends has documented what happened quite well, I am not going to rehash what he has already shown so well. Just look at the numbers and refer to what FRL wrote. Why didn't anyone prove with screen shots? I don't know. I don't care that much because the Fan Ballot means very little in reality. It is one ballot out of hundreds. Also, my Cars benefit, so great. They get a vote. I don't really care if the vote is fraudulent or not. What I do mind is people who are so blinded by their love for a band that they cannot see reality right in front of them. That is more annoying than fraudulent Fan Poll. Just take the Chicago vote and be happy with it.

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 14:09pm


Without the actual documentation nothing is shown. Graphs are nothing more than pretty pictures without the actual data shown to back it up.

Neither graph depicts what I recall happening. The first one does not show the flip flops that were occurring. Janet regained the top spot twice. It also does not show The cars or Yes taking the top spot. The second one does not show amounts as I remember them. This is why screenshots are so important. It backs up the graphs shown. Without the backups graphs are not validated and are very very vulnerable to being disputed.

It may only be one vote and that is not what matters. It's the principle. After twenty years, Chicago fans are tired of the snide remarks. Chicago fans are tired of the anti-Chicago propaganda. No more. Enough is enough.

Quite frankly I think the truth behind the propaganda is that somebody had their morning cup of Joe and is doing some damage control.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 14:45pm


Don't worry about it Dezmond. Let them live in la-la land. Hopefully the Rock Hall will either delete votes from IP addresses they know are bots or they start the vote over again with the 15 vote limit. If not its only one vote.

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 15:16pm


There is no proof to the propaganda. Plain and simple. Repeating something over and over and coming up with graphs without the data to back it up does not make it true.

One and a half months to go and we will see. That is what really counts.

:)

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 15:32pm


"Neither graph depicts what I recall happening. The first one does not show the flip flops that were occurring. Janet regained the top spot twice. It also does not show The cars or Yes taking the top spot. The second one does not show amounts as I remember them. This is why screenshots are so important. It backs up the graphs shown. Without the backups graphs are not validated and are very very vulnerable to being disputed."

Very genuine question, Zuzu.... do you remember when, in reference to how soon the fan vote opened that Janet Jackson reclaimed the spot not once after being knocked off the top, but twice? I never saw Janet reclaim the top spot ever, so I'm curious as to when these two things happened.

"It may only be one vote and that is not what matters. It's the principle. After twenty years, Chicago fans are tired of the snide remarks. Chicago fans are tired of the anti-Chicago propaganda. No more. Enough is enough."

This is why graphs, IP traces, and even a confession from a hacker wouldn't appease Chicago fans.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 15:35pm


Philip,

Janet regained the top spot late on the first or second day. She went from around 400,000 to 3,000,000. I am pretty sure it was the second day. She fell down to sixth place over a time period that was between 1 and 2 days. Then she went from about 3.5 or maybe 4 mil to about 8 or 9 mil. She went back down to 6th place again. There were a couple attempts but they only lasted less than 1/2 hour. Chicago started going full force in numbers after being overtaken by both Yes and the Cars. Both were at least once and one was twice. The other may have been twice too.

You might be able to find out when by searching for Roy's name in the nomination thread. I believe he made comments on that thread about who was in the lead some of the times. I may have commented once early on.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 16:03pm


Philip:

Unless it happened sometime after the 10th of October, it never happened.

https://twitter.com/futurerocklgnds/status/652913393863561216/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 16:07pm


Zuzu, our data is fine. Vote totals are recorded daily, not hourly. Results were indeed volatile in the first day, which is to be expected.

In this case, your mistrust seems to be misplaced.

Posted by FRL on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 17:56pm


Tom Morello wore a CTA cap at this year's Rock Hall ceremony. That's proof that Chicago will get enough votes from the committee and the inductees. Chicago will be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 2016. Questlove wore a Hall & Oates shirt and they were inducted right after. Morello's CTA cap was a sign!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 20:34pm


I have a general idea where South Bend is. I also know who Digger Phelps was. ;) I used to go up to New Buffalo in the summers when I was little. Never could figure out the time zone differences. Isn't there somewhere around there that doesn't change clocks? I can't remember if it was in Indiana or Michigan. The camp I went to was on Chicago time.
South Bend is not Chicago. It's actually one way to tell right off the bat if somebody is actually from Chicago or the burbs. Burbies will either not declare a team or will say both. If you were actually born and raised in Chicago it is one or the other. I grew up close enough to Comiskey to hear the scoreboard.

:)


Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 02:40am


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I'm aware about all that, but 4 Grandparents on both sides of my family, even Dad, then most farmers and business owners migrated to NW Indiana, most everyone is originally from Chicago.

Indiana now observes Daylight Savings Time since 2006, that was where there was confusion.

I also know New Buffalo, Michigan.

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 20:48pm


Now that Chicago is finally going to be inducted or at least most likely should I want to know who they plan on inducting. The only members I think there is some doubt on is Tris and Jason. Personally I hope they both get in. For those who think there is some question about Bill Champlin, he gets the nod no question about it. From 85 on he was the face of the band, sure Jason replaced Cetera but the voice of Chicago became Bill. Within the industry Bill probably has a good as reputation as anyone. If Bill gets left out, its original 7 only no shot of Jason or Tris getting in.

Posted by Pete on Friday, 10.23.15 @ 20:38pm


The fan ballot doesn't count for much in the final tally — and this year in particular, it has apparently been manipulated by rabid fans — but at this writing, Chicago leads the vote by at least 50% over their fellow nominees. Who knew Robert Lamm and Gene Simmons had so much in common?

-Billboard Magazine

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.24.15 @ 09:19am


Sorry, the last post was a quote from NPR, not Billboard.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.24.15 @ 11:52am



I'm aware about all that, but 4 Grandparents on both sides of my family, even Dad, then most farmers and business owners migrated to NW Indiana, most everyone is originally from Chicago.

Indiana now observes Daylight Savings Time since 2006, that was where there was confusion.

I also know New Buffalo, Michigan.

8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Thursday, 10.22.15 @ 20:48pm



I remembered it was something about Daylight Savings Time. I couldn't remember if it was Indiana or Michigan.

Most of the people I know that moved to Indiana from Chicago moved to the St John - Griffith area.
Are the people you know mostly from the South Side?

Chicago which was mostly West Siders were all Cubbies. Styx were the Sox fans. Kevin Cronin was born in Evanston and raised in Oak Lawn. I haven't found anything about him being a fan of either team. He is very much a Hawks fan.

Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10.24.15 @ 17:20pm


^ No.

Former Chicagoans go as far south in NW Indiana as San Pierre, North Judson, Bass Lake and Knox around Starke County. Radioville, Medaryville, Francesville and Winamac around Pulaski County. They all started migrating around The Great Depression era.

Da Bears use to hold their annual training camp at St. Joseph's College in Rensselaer, Indiana, from 1944-1974!

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Saturday, 10.24.15 @ 22:39pm


Smoke On The Water by Deep Purple.
Chicago's South California Purples.
They will be inducted the same year!
This is being done on purpose!
Two classic opening guitar riffs!
Too bad South California Purples was never a single!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 10.25.15 @ 06:28am


Roy said: "Smoke On The Water by Deep Purple.
Chicago's South California Purples.
They will be inducted the same year!
This is being done on purpose!"

There is a word that needs to be introduced to Roy's vocabulary: "coincidence."

Also, Roy, just because something happens or is so. And then something else happens or is so. And after the fact your mind can connect them somehow, however much the stretch...it does NOT necessarily mean there is a cause/effect relationship there!

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 10.25.15 @ 08:29am


I've always assumed that Roy's convoluted conspiracy theories were a joke. I can't imagine this is serious:

"Smoke On The Water by Deep Purple.
Chicago's South California Purples.
They will be inducted the same year!
This is being done on purpose!"

Posted by Classic Rock on Sunday, 10.25.15 @ 21:08pm


No, he's serious. Scroll up several hundred posts and find his fantasy induction speeches for Chicago. My favorite part is when he tells us when the audience laughs. You've got to admire his scary dedication, though.

Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 10.26.15 @ 02:20am


There is a word that needs to be introduced to Roy's vocabulary: "coincidence."

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 10.25.15 @ 08:29am

Coincidence my arse!

Genesis and ABBA Inducted in 2010.
Abacab by Genesis.
Follow You Follow Me by Genesis.
Knowing Me Knowing You by ABBA.

My induction speeches for Chicago were taken down by FRL after Telarock complained that I was taking up too much space. I will post the final copy after Chicago is inducted!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.26.15 @ 07:36am


Again coincidence.

Posted by Greg F on Monday, 10.26.15 @ 16:57pm


So let me get this straight, Roy. You are saying that the Genesis/ABBA inductions and Chicago/Deep Purple possible inductions are all purposeful. Not just the Nominating Committee, but enough of the voters are sitting around figuring out these Roy Haikus? Is that what you are saying?

I would also like to know your theories on the following:

1. The Kennedy assassination
2. The moon landing

I will tell you what is a real conspiracy. How could FRL take down Roy's masterpiece Chicago Induction Speech? That was a work of art.

Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 10.26.15 @ 17:32pm


With all this talk, I gotta now see Roy's Chicago acceptance speech. Are there lines in the speech like Chicago's is now "Alive Again" or those were the "Old Days." Or they "Colour Our World" (BTW, I know it's "My") because they will (most likely) get inducted this year? Will Chicago play the song "Beginnings" and end with "Feeling Stronger Everyday"? The jokes are endless here.

On a side note, Roy if believe that's the Rock Hall's Agenda to induct Genesis/ABBA and Deep Purple/Chicago based on coincidences then you are highly delusional. I want Chicago in the Rock Hall just as bad you do but still this is getting ridiculous.

Posted by Nick on Monday, 10.26.15 @ 21:54pm


Oh yes. For longtime FRL readers like myself, Roy's epic Chicago Induction Speech is the stuff of legend. My favorite parts were where he inserted cues for the audience to laugh or chuckle.

Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 10.26.15 @ 23:10pm


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1517/CHICAGO

MY ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

It will be updated in December. I will post it here in April!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.26.15 @ 23:23pm


chicago is personally responsible for the rise of isis wake up america.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 10.27.15 @ 19:50pm


Hillary Clinton was born in Chicago. Hillary Clinton is the next President of the United States of America.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 10.28.15 @ 18:59pm


Roy,

Hilary Clinton had nothing to do with Chicago and her being the next POTUS is questionable. Now if you said that meant something special for Steve Goodman that would be a different story. She went to school with Steve Goodman and was interviewed for his biography.

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 10.28.15 @ 19:56pm


Dammit, Roy, don't jinx her!!

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 10.29.15 @ 07:13am


So let me get this straight, Roy. You are saying that the Genesis/ABBA inductions and Chicago/Deep Purple possible inductions are all purposeful. Not just the Nominating Committee, but enough of the voters are sitting around figuring out these Roy Haikus? Is that what you are saying?

I would also like to know your theories on the following:

1. The Kennedy assassination
2. The moon landing

Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 10.26.15 @ 17:32pm

YES!

There is also a connection between the Kennedys and Wayne Gretzky. Gretzky and Obama. Gretzky and Michael Jackson. Gretzky and Princess Diana. Also, a connection between the 80s TV shows Dynasty and He-Man and the Masters of the Universe.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.30.15 @ 14:12pm


(Fun chart trivia: Steve Miller has knocked Chicago out of the No. 1 spot on the Hot 100 twice: "Rock'n Me" bumped "If You Leave Me Now" in 1976, and "Abracadabra" ejected "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" in 1982. If Miller gets inducted this year and Chicago doesn't, Chicago's fans with long memories may hold a grudge.)

-NPR

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.31.15 @ 07:50am


Roy,

Where do you get the NPR quote from? I looked and I couldn't find it.

Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10.31.15 @ 09:33am



Thanks Nick.

Why somebody like this is writing for NPR I will never know. He needs to take it somewhere else like Rolling Stone. This sort of opinionated garbage does not belong on anything funded with government dollars. Public Radio and Public Television was not intended to be used for somebody to vent their uneducated opinion.

Posted by Zuzu on Saturday, 10.31.15 @ 11:18am


The fan ballot doesn't count for much in the final tally — and this year in particular, it has apparently been manipulated by rabid fans — but at this writing, Chicago leads the vote by at least 50% over their fellow nominees. Who knew Robert Lamm and Gene Simmons had so much in common?

-NPR

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.31.15 @ 11:49am


http://twitter.com/TrisImboden

Tris Imboden tweets about the Rock Hall

Tris Imboden ‏@TrisImboden Oct 9
I voted for "2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominee Fan Vote!"
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Tris Imboden ‏@TrisImboden Oct 9
So happy the band has finally been nominated for the RRHOF!
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Tris Imboden ‏@TrisImboden Oct 8
Well we've got some seriously stiff competition but we will see what happens this year with the RRHOF!

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.31.15 @ 19:04pm


http://petercetera.com

PETER CETERA COMMENTS ON THE CHICAGO ROCK HALL NOMINATION

October 24, 2015

Hold your horses all you folks that are so excited about this Hall of Fame voting. Let me remind you that whomever has this vendetta that has kept the original Chicago out of the HOF is still in charge. We should have been in years ago of course and that’s my point. They have put in so many who don’t belong that it’s an insult to think that they might have to be forced to at least finally put us in the nominee category. Also, this fan vote only counts for ONE vote out of the hundreds of voters out there so there’s still a chance for them to finagle their way out of “letting” us in. I also heard something about Chicago fans cheating by voting early and voting often! Keep it up because you never know what might happen!

Ciao, p

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 10.31.15 @ 22:13pm


http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/lehigh-valley-music/mc-review-peter-cetera-at-valley-forge-casino-resort-missing-nothing-except-more-energy-20151012-column.html

MORE FROM CETERA DURING AN OCTOBER 11TH CONCERT

He even commented on Chicago finally being nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame last week, after being eligible for more than 20 years.

“Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, huh?” he said. “Where the hell you been for the past 30 years? Vendettas. Not going down without a fight, Rolling Stone.”

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 06:53am


Roy,

I posted what PC said on his site too in the 2016 Nominees thread.

I also heard something about Chicago fans cheating by voting early and voting often! Keep it up because you never know what might happen!

The vote early and vote often comment comes a parody of one of Old Man Daley's campaign slogans - vote early -- vote Daley. I am not absolutely sure but I think it was Nixon supporters that came up with it.

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 12:15pm


Why are people upset that Chicago is # 1 in the Rock Hall fan poll, but not upset that Rush and KISS also finished # 1 in the fan poll? Chicago finishing # 1 in the poll is no surprise to me. Let me remind all of you again who you are dealing with here! This is Chicago! Of the 15 nominees on this year's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ballot, Chicago is the number one all-time selling and charting act on the list. Chicago at # 1 makes sense!! Rock and Roll's Holy Quintet: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys, The Bee Gees, Chicago! Chicago will join the rest in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 2016!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 12:27pm


Roy,

I posted what PC said on his site too in the 2016 Nominees thread.

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 12:15pm

When did they re-open the PC forum? Do you have the link? I can't find it.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 12:29pm


Roy,

I posted it on the 2016 Nominee thread on this site. Not on any PC forum

I posted the same comment from PC that you posted. No biggie since it is pertinent to both threads. I was just letting you know.

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 12:38pm


Roy,

I posted it on the 2016 Nominee thread on this site. Not on any PC forum

I posted the same comment from PC that you posted. No biggie since it is pertinent to both threads. I was just letting you know.

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 12:38pm


Nobody's upset that Chicago is #1. Read this for clarification:

http://rockhallmonitors.blogspot.com/2015/10/rock-vote-dont-tip-vote-over.html?spref=tw

Posted by dmg on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 12:46pm


It's the Chicago mafia voting!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 12:55pm


Roy,

PC explains it very well. Anyway I wouldn't let people try to ruin it. Worry about more important questions.

Will PC accept or reject induction?

If PC accepts will he bring a roll of tp with him?

If PC brings a roll of tp will he have something printed on it?

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 13:54pm


Peter Cetera will attend the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony. He has stated in the past that that would be the only way he would ever perform with Chicago again, and Chicago has no problem with it.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 14:29pm


When did he say this? I haven't come across it. The closest I've come across is Bobby talking to Peter about getting together with the band or just the two of them doing something together and then Chicago replies that Peter is too lazy to tour. This doesn't sound like Peter would without question play with Chicago if inducted into the hall.

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 15:21pm


A Rock Hall performance is not a tour. The lazy quote is from the site called somethingelse. I will post the link about Cetera performing at the Rock Hall soon. He'll do it for his daughters.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 15:37pm


There is a word that needs to be introduced to Roy's vocabulary: "coincidence."


Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 10.25.15 @ 08:29am


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But the mafia doesn't believe in coincidence!

:D 8-)

Posted by Rick Vendl II on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 16:39pm


Rick

Danny did actually have mafia ties.

RO: I was surprised to read that you know [Mafia figure] Tony "The Ant" Spilotro pretty well. What can you tell me about him that might surprise someone who saw Joe Pesci as a Spilotro-based character in Casino?

DS: He was always really nice to me and cordial. I knew how vicious he could be, because he had that reputation in the neighborhood. He was even proud of me [after Chicago's success] that I came from the neighborhood. But you knew you were around dangerous people. At one point, the FBI came after me [looking into possible band/mafia ties], but I was more scared of the mob than the FBI!

http://www.houstonpress.com/music/mobsters-crime-and-jazz-danny-seraphines-chicago-story-6766814

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 17:34pm


https://northumbriancountdown.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-class-of-2015-an-early-prediction/

16. Chicago: The hall, as others have pointed out, has gotten more populist lately, and lots of commercially successful bands that were snubbed are finally getting recognized. If Hall & Oates can get in, why not Chicago? They had more hits than any rock band not in the Hall of Fame, and between Kath’s guitar, Seraphine’s drums, Cetera’s vocals, and Pankow’s horn arrangements, there’s no denying they pass the “excellence” test. Robert Lamm reported last year that sources told him they were the last cut from the ballot for the class of 2014.

Another thing to consider: the Rock Hall wants to avoid another KISS fiasco. Chicago dialed down their criticism of the rock hall in recent years, and both the band and Peter Cetera have intimated that a rock hall performance is the only way on earth that a reunion would happen. It could draw some good press for all parties concerned if it happens.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 18:41pm


Roy,

I wouldn't consider that an absolute since it's not a direct interview.

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 18:58pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsNc23RP40A

Hold On from Chicago XIV is the funniest Chicago track ever. You can bang your head to a couple portions of the song as well. The guitar and drums from 1:37 to 2:30, and the way Cetera is repeating the same lines, and then again from 3:02 to 3:50. I want to cut those portions out and put them back to back to back on an 80-minute CD and listen to it all day or annoy the hell out of non-Chicago fans with it!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 19:13pm



http://popdose.com/best-chicago-songs/

10 Songs to Make You Love Chicago (the Band)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.1.15 @ 19:19pm



Chicago lost Terry Kath 11 albums in, not 4 albums in as that Dave Marsh interviewer says. Dave Marsh called Chicago just a vehicle for their guitar player, which is not enough to get them in.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.4.15 @ 04:24am


Dave Marsh doesn't know who he can compare to Chicago and says Dave Brubeck is better than Chicago. Dave Marsh sarcastically asks which is better Roundabout or 25 Or 6 To 4.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.4.15 @ 05:00am


Did Dave Marsh venerate Terry Kath by calling Chicago just a vehicle for Terry Kath's guitar playing?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.8.15 @ 08:56am


Camelia Emily Ortiz, Terry Kath's widow, was married to Keifer Sutherland 1987 through 1990. Sutherland was a stepdad to Michele Kath, and had his daughter Sarah Sutherland with Ortiz.

Terry Kath's widow is currently dating Jeff Lynne of ELO. Could Jeff Lynne be giving the induction speech for Chicago?

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 05:54am


Chicago fans all over North America have been summoned by me via the internet. They are now all heading to all of their local libraries and Apple stores to vote for Chicago on the Future Rock Legends poll for the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame nominees. Chicago will finish # 1 in the Future Rock Legends poll!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 08:26am


Roy,

Don't forget about the hall's fan vote. Remember PC's warning to not trust them. Also don't forget to ask them to show a little love for Chaka Khan and Steve Miller.

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 08:45am


About Chicago, Zuzu wrote:

Roy,

Don't forget about the hall's fan vote. Remember PC's warning to not trust them. Also don't forget to ask them to show a little love for Chaka Khan and Steve Miller.

All I told them was that Janet Jackson couldn't be one of the other four acts they vote for because Janet and Chicago are now tied for first place on FRL. Chicago is going to win the official Rock Hall poll. That's over.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 09:05am


Roy says: "Chicago fans all over North America have been summoned by me via the internet." That is so awesome. It is like Roy has activated all of these sleeper cells.

Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 13:12pm


"They are now all heading to all of their local libraries and Apple stores to vote for Chicago on the Future Rock Legends poll for the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame nominees."

Why do they have to go to libraries and Apple stores? Are Chicago fans all homeless? Do they not own computers or internet capable devices of their own?

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 17:35pm


Because they already voted from their home computers. They can't vote again from home, unless they lose their internet signal and FRL resets.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 18:18pm


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/2421/The-2015-Nominee-Ballot-for-2016-Induction-Are?page=21

Underground Democrat wrote:

The Chicago Transit Authority Was Almost On Apple Records

In 1968 Paul McCartney shocked everyone by going to a Capitol Records business meting in Los Angeles, artists with The Beatles fame don't usually do stuff like that, but Macca was not there as an artist but as a businessman wanting to get Capitol business people on board with Apple.

One night,Mc Cartney went to the Whiskey Au Go Go where the headliner was B.B. King, opening for B.B. was a unsigned act named Chicago Transit Authority ,Macca liked them and instantly wanted to sign them to Apple Records.

CTA's manager James William Gucerio told McCartney that while he liked the idea of having a Beatles connection ,he was in negotiation with Columbia Records and wanted to sign with them because they were the biggest record label in the world.

You know the rest.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 18:46pm


People are actually going to make a trip to a library or Apple store to vote in a poll that carries no weight and has no impact on the final class?

That's a really special level of insecurity and craving for the Rock Hall's validation.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 18:55pm


How come N.W.A, The Smiths, Los Lobos, The Spinners, Chic, The Cars, Cheap Trick, Deep Purple and Yes all get photos on the Rock Hall website that show their faces up-close, but Chicago doesn't get that?!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 19:33pm


www.chicagotheband.com/a-chicago-story/

A Chicago Story

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 19:35pm


Library and (not or) the Apple store. That's two votes per person. But each person would have to go to a separate library and Apple store because you can't vote more than once at each place.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 11.9.15 @ 19:39pm


Roy,

I had never heard about the Apple/McCartney connection before. According to the Gibson site though, Chicago did not consider Apple because they were already in talks with Columbia and no mention is made that they wanted a big company.

http://www.gibson.com/news-lifestyle/features/en-us/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-paul-mccartney.aspx

From what I read and I think this was from Google Book excerpts of Street Player, CTA was having some problems getting a record deal and Columbia wanted James Guercio to produce the BST album. As part of the conditions of producing the album Chicago got signed with Columbia.

Back in the 70s it was going around that Chicago had gotten the raw end of the deal from both their manager and record company. According to Danny they got 1/s the usual royalties in order to do the double albums because Columbia was worried about sales of a double album for a new group. It sounds like their manager didn't make sure there were bonuses if they reached certain sales goals like many baseball payers do when agreeing to a lower salary.

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 11.10.15 @ 14:50pm


POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, David Foster, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Al Kooper, Bobby Colomby, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Jeff Lynne, Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Shmit, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian "Ali" Campbell, Huey Lewis, Johnny Colla, Chris Isaak, Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Chris Cornell, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Tom Morello, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 11.10.15 @ 17:44pm


http://www.amazon.com/Chi...id=1337037072&sr=1-1

Chicago: Feelin' Stronger Every Day by Ben Joseph

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11.11.15 @ 09:54am





David Wild of Rolling Stone is voting for Chicago.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 11.14.15 @ 07:18am


Chicago will win the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame poll and they will be inducted. Will Chicago finally get a Rolling Stone Magazine cover story? Will there also be a Rolling Stone Special Collectors Edition on Chicago? If so, should it just be the Chicago logo all over the front cover, staying in theme with all of Chicago's album covers?

The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys and the Bee Gees have all been on the cover of Rolling Stone, as well as having been given special collectors edition magazines made just for them.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 11.20.15 @ 18:39pm


RUSH and KISS made it onto Rolling Stone Magazine after they were inducted. I think Chicago is next!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 11.22.15 @ 16:53pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgxSkb6eHp0

Now More Than Ever: The History of Chicago Official Trailer

Posted by Roy on Friday, 11.27.15 @ 15:18pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMCwq-LagJ0

The History of Chicago Trailer

Posted by Roy on Friday, 11.27.15 @ 15:25pm



RUSH is voting for Chicago!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.2.15 @ 18:43pm


Chicago Songs With Trombonist James Pankow On Lead Vocals

01. Till The End Of Time (Chicago XI)

Chicago Songs With Trumpeter Lee Loughnane On Lead Vocals

01. Together Again (Chicago X)
02. This Time (Chicago XI) with Peter Cetera
03. Rockin' And Rollin' On Christmas Day (Chicago XXXIII: O Christmas Three)
04. Something's Coming, I Know (Chicago XXXVI: NOW) with Robert Lamm

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12.6.15 @ 08:21am


Not to nit-pick, Roy, but Lee also sang lead on "Song of the Evergreens" from VII and "Let It Snow" from XXV.

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Sunday, 12.6.15 @ 08:43am


I forgot that one.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12.6.15 @ 09:39am


Chicago Songs With Trombonist James Pankow On Lead Vocals

01. Till The End Of Time (Chicago XI)

Chicago Songs With Trumpeter Lee Loughnane On Lead Vocals

01. Song Of The Evergreens (Chicago VII)
02. Together Again (Chicago X)
03. This Time (Chicago XI) with Peter Cetera
04. Let It Snow (Chicago 25: The Christmas Album)
05. Rockin' And Rollin' On Christmas Day (Chicago XXXIII: O Christmas Three)
06. Something's Coming, I Know (Chicago XXXVI: NOW) with Robert Lamm

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12.6.15 @ 09:42am


Chicago Songs With Trombonist James Pankow On Lead Vocals

01. You Are On My Mind (Chicago X)
02. Till The End Of Time (Chicago XI)

Chicago Songs With Trumpeter Lee Loughnane On Lead Vocals

01. Something In The City Changes People (Chicago VI)
02. Song Of The Evergreens (Chicago VII)
03. Together Again (Chicago X)
04. This Time (Chicago XI)
05. Let It Snow (Chicago 25: The Christmas Album)
06. Rockin' And Rollin' On Christmas Day (Chicago XXXIII: O Christmas Three)
07. Something's Coming, I Know (Chicago XXXVI: NOW)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12.6.15 @ 14:38pm


http://debris-slide.blogspot.ca/2015/11/chicago-rock-roll-hall-of-fame.html

Chicago: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Justifications and Excuses, Part I

Posted by Roy on Monday, 12.7.15 @ 07:01am


The 1970s Chicago Songs with Lee Loughnane, James Pankow or Donnie Dacus on Lead Vocals

01. Something In The City Changes People (Chicago VI: Lee Loughnane)
02. Song Of The Evergreens (Chicago VII: Lee Loughnane)
03. You Are On My Mind (Chicago X: James Pankow)
04. Together Again (Chicago X: Lee Loughnane)
05. Till The End Of Time (Chicago XI: James Pankow)
06. This Time (Chicago XI: Lee Loughnane)
07. Take A Chance (Hot Streets: Donnie Dacus)
08. Ain't It Time (Hot Streets: Donnie Dacus)
09. Love Was New (Hot Streets: Donnie Dacus)
10. Must Have Been Crazy (Chicago 13: Donnie Dacus)
11. Paradise Alley (Chicago 13: Donnie Dacus)
12. Closer To You (Chicago 13: Donnie Dacus)

That's a whole album!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 12.7.15 @ 08:46am


http://debris-slide.blogspot.ca/2015/11/chicago-rock-roll-hall-of-fame.html

Apparently, Tom Nawrocki of Rolling Stone Magazine had brunch with Lobo, Michael Bolton, Peter Gabriel, and Dave Matthews over the weekend, then watched the Browns vs. Bengals game. Lobo thinks "Look Away" is unmanly. Michael Bolton thinks the vocals are overwrought. Peter Gabriel thinks it’s pretentious. Dave Matthews thinks it’s poorly composed. I'm guessing Nawrocki lives in California or New York.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.8.15 @ 08:40am


Songs edited out from the suite "Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon" from Chicago II (Make Me Smile, Colour My World) not included in the Singles Collection!

NOTE: These are just my preferences.

Chicago: The Singles Collection (1969-1977)

01. Beginnings
02. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
03. Questions 67 And 68
04. 25 Or 6 To 4
05. Free
06. Lowdown
07. Dialogue (Parts 1 & 2)
08. Saturday In The Park
09. Just You N' Me
10. Feelin' Stronger Everyday
11. (I've Been) Searchin' So Long
12. Wishing You Were Here
13. Old Days
14. If You Leave Me Now
15. Baby, What A Big Surprise

Chicago: The Terry Kath Guitar Album

01. Introduction
02. Listen
03. Poem 58
04. Free Form Guitar
05. South California Purples
06. Liberation
07. In The Country
08. 25 Or 6 To 4
09. I Don't Want Your Money
10. A Song For Richard And His Friends
11. Oh, Thank You Great Spirit
12. Scrapbook

The Chicago Suites Collection (75 minutes)

01. Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon (12:55)
02. Memories Of Love (9:12)
03. It Better End Soon (10:24)
04. Travel Suite (22:30)
05. An Hour In The Shower (5:30)
06. Elegy (15:27)

Chicago (LONG SONGS: 6 minutes and over) Album Versions (DOUBLE ALBUM)

CD # 1

01. Introduction (6:35)
02. Beginnings (7:34)
03. Poem 58 (8:35)
04. Free Form Guitar (6:49)
05. South California Purples (6:28)
06. I'm A Man (7:43)
07. Liberation (14:37)
08. In The Country (6:35)
09. Sing A Mean Tune Kid (9:18)

CD # 2

01. State Of The Union (6:16)
02. Goodbye (6:05)
03. A Song For Richard And His Friends (8:16)
04. Beyond All Our Sorrows (7:06)
05. Prelude To Aire (2:47)
06. Aire (6:27)
07. Devil's Sweet (10:07)
08. Byblos (6:18)
09. Oh, Thank You Great Spirit (7:19)
10. Your Love's An Attitude (6:00)
11. Prelude (Little One) (0:52)
12. Little One (5:40)
13. Street Player (9:11)

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.9.15 @ 10:31am


I have read many of the comments of why and why not and I am frustrated. As a fan from day ONE, I will be 70 next year and before I leave this would like see my favorite group in the hall.

I have the complete collection records and cos and when I'm in my car CHICAGO is playing. With all their songs I can go months on end before I repeat a song. Each year I hope the will release more new material.

The group is an institution. I have attended every concert when they are in New Jersey and hope to do so until.......





Posted by Vince on Wednesday, 12.9.15 @ 18:24pm


http://www.chicagotheband.com/tour/

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2016 Induction Ceremony will be held in New York in April 2016. What day in April?

CHICAGO HAS A CONCERT ON APRIL 18, 2016 AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN IN NEW YORK CITY

04/01/16 Chicago, IL United Center w/ EWF
04/02/16 St. Paul, MN Xcel Energy Center w/ EWF
04/05/16 Columbus, OH Nationwide Arena w/ EWF
04/06/16 Hershey, PA Giant Center w/ EWF
04/09/16 Uncasville, CT Mohegan Sun Arena w/ EWF
04/10/16 Allentown, PA PPL Center w/ EWF
04/12/16 Baltimore, MD Royal Farms Arena w/ EWF
04/15/16 Grand Rapids, MI Van Andel Arena w/ EWF
04/16/16 Moline, IL iWireless Center w/ EWF
04/18/16 New York, NY Madison Square Garden w/ EWF

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.10.15 @ 06:16am


http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blog_files/FRL_Predicts_the_2016_Inductees.html

Chicago - The Rock Hall hasn’t set the date or the venue for the 2016 induction ceremony, except to say it will be in New York in April. Chicago is touring this spring, and are scheduled to wrap up that leg of their tour at Madison Square Garden on April 18th. Hmmm... (a side note to this: Yes is beginning a UK tour on April 27th. Chic is potentially playing Coachella this year April 15-17 and 22-24. Chicago is on tour in early April. Steve Miller Band is touring extensively next year, but is on a break for all of April. If you don’t think the Rock Hall and HBO consider this stuff, you’re crazy. Never forget it’s a show to raise money for the non-profit Rock Hall Foundation. They aren’t going to induct an artist who can’t make it because they’re on tour, if they have other options available. Disinterested artists like Deep Purple are also hard to induct if the Rock Hall isn’t sure if they will show up for the ceremony.)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.10.15 @ 06:25am


http://petercetera.com/tour/

Peter Cetera is off in April! smiley: happy

Danny Seraphine's California Transit Authority also has a concert on April 18 (like Chicago), and then they are off! smiley: happy

Bill Champlin is off in April too! smiley: happy

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.10.15 @ 07:47am


Songs edited out from the suite "Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon" from Chicago II (Make Me Smile, Colour My World) not included in the Singles Collection!

NOTE: These are just my preferences.

Chicago: The Singles Collection (1969-1978)

01. Beginnings
02. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
03. Questions 67 And 68
04. 25 Or 6 To 4
05. Free
06. Lowdown
07. Dialogue (Parts 1 & 2)
08. Saturday In The Park
09. Just You N' Me
10. Feelin' Stronger Everyday
11. (I've Been) Searchin' So Long
12. Wishing You Were Here
13. Old Days
14. If You Leave Me Now
15. Baby, What A Big Surprise
16. No Tell Lover

Chicago: The Terry Kath Guitar Album

01. Introduction
02. Listen
03. Poem 58
04. Free Form Guitar
05. South California Purples
06. Liberation
07. In The Country
08. 25 Or 6 To 4
09. I Don't Want Your Money
10. A Song For Richard And His Friends
11. Oh, Thank You Great Spirit
12. Scrapbook

The Chicago Suites Collection (75 minutes)

01. Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon (12:55)
02. Memories Of Love (9:12)
03. It Better End Soon (10:24)
04. Travel Suite (22:30)
05. An Hour In The Shower (5:30)
06. Elegy (15:27)

Chicago (LONG SONGS: 6 minutes and over) Album Versions (DOUBLE ALBUM)

CD # 1

01. Introduction (6:35)
02. Beginnings (7:34)
03. Poem 58 (8:35)
04. Free Form Guitar (6:49)
05. South California Purples (6:28)
06. I'm A Man (7:43)
07. Liberation (14:37)
08. In The Country (6:35)
09. Sing A Mean Tune Kid (9:18)
10. Goodbye (6:05)

CD # 2

01. State Of The Union (6:16)
02. A Song For Richard And His Friends (8:16)
03. Beyond All Our Sorrows (7:06)
04. Prelude To Aire (2:47)
05. Aire (6:27)
06. Devil's Sweet (10:07)
07. Byblos (6:18)
08. Oh, Thank You Great Spirit (7:19)
09. Your Love's An Attitude (6:00)
10. Prelude (Little One) (0:52)
11. Little One (5:40)
12. Street Player (9:11)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.10.15 @ 11:33am


Chicago/Peter Cetera: The Ballads/Singles (1982-1995)

01. Hard To Say I’m Sorry (Chicago/Peter Cetera) 4:00
02. Love Me Tomorrow (Chicago/Peter Cetera) 4:00
03. Hold Me ‘Til The Morning Comes (Paul Anka/Peter Cetera) 4:50
04. Hard Habit To Break (Chicago/Peter Cetera/Bill Champlin) 4:45
05. You’re The Inspiration (Chicago/Peter Cetera) 3:50
06. Glory Of Love (Peter Cetera) 4:18
07. The Next Time I Fall (Peter Cetera/Amy Grant) 3:46
08. Will You Still Love Me? (Chicago/Jason Scheff/Bill Champlin) 5:43
09. I Don’t Wanna Live Without Your Love (Chicago/Bill Champlin) 4:00
10. Look Away (Chicago/Bill Champlin) 4:00
11. What Kind Of Man Would I Be? (Chicago/Jason Scheff) 4:20
12. I Wasn’t The One (Who Said Goodbye) (Agnetha Faltskog/Peter Cetera) 4:12
13. One Good Woman (Peter Cetera) 4:38
14. After All (Cher/Peter Cetera) 4:05
15. Restless Heart (Peter Cetera) 4:09
16. Feels Like Heaven (Peter Cetera/Chaka Khan) 4:50
17. Even A Fool Can See (Peter Cetera) 4:31
18. (I Wanna Take) Forever Tonight (Peter Cetera/Crystal Bernard) 4:40

TOTAL RUNNING TIME ON AN 80-MINUTE CD: 79 MINUTES

Regardless of whether you use the album versions or the singles versions of Hard To Say I'm Sorry, Love Me Tomorrow, One Good Woman, Will You Still Love Me and What Kind Of Man Would I Be. There are a few ways to play around with this collection.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.10.15 @ 11:36am


Chicago/Peter Cetera: The Ballads/Singles (1982-1995)

01. Hard To Say I’m Sorry (Chicago/Peter Cetera) 5:05 / 4:00 / 3:42 / 3:52
02. Love Me Tomorrow (Chicago/Peter Cetera) 5:09 / 4:00
03. Hold Me ‘Til The Morning Comes (Paul Anka/Peter Cetera) 4:50
04. Hard Habit To Break (Chicago/Peter Cetera/Bill Champlin) 4:45
05. You’re The Inspiration (Chicago/Peter Cetera) 3:50
06. Glory Of Love (Peter Cetera) 4:18
07. The Next Time I Fall (Peter Cetera/Amy Grant) 3:46
08. Will You Still Love Me? (Chicago/Jason Scheff/Bill Champlin) 5:43 / 4:12
09. I Don’t Wanna Live Without Your Love (Chicago/Bill Champlin) 4:00
10. Look Away (Chicago/Bill Champlin) 4:00
11. What Kind Of Man Would I Be? (Chicago/Jason Scheff) 4:20 / 4:16
12. I Wasn’t The One (Who Said Goodbye) (Agnetha Faltskog/Peter Cetera) 4:12
13. One Good Woman (Peter Cetera) 4:38 / 4:13
14. After All (Cher/Peter Cetera) 4:05
15. Restless Heart (Peter Cetera) 4:09
16. Feels Like Heaven (Peter Cetera/Chaka Khan) 4:50
17. Even A Fool Can See (Peter Cetera) 4:31
18. (I Wanna Take) Forever Tonight (Peter Cetera/Crystal Bernard) 4:40

TOTAL RUNNING TIME ON AN 80-MINUTE CD: 79 MINUTES

Regardless of whether you use the album versions or the singles versions of Hard To Say I'm Sorry, Love Me Tomorrow, One Good Woman, Will You Still Love Me and What Kind Of Man Would I Be. There are a few ways to play around with this collection.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.10.15 @ 12:24pm


Chicago: The Singles Collection (1969-1977)

01. Beginnings
02. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
03. Questions 67 And 68
04. Make Me Smile
05. Colour My World
06. 25 Or 6 To 4
07. Free
08. Lowdown
09. Dialogue (Parts 1 & 2)
10. Saturday In The Park
11. Just You N’ Me
12. Feelin’ Stronger Every Day
13. (I’ve Been) Searchin’ So Long
14. Wishing You Were Here
15. Call On Me
16. Harry Truman
17. Old Days
18. If You Leave Me Now
19. Baby, What A Big Surprise

Chicago/Peter Cetera: The Ballads/Singles (1982-1995)

01. Hard To Say I’m Sorry (Chicago/Peter Cetera)
02. Love Me Tomorrow (Chicago/Peter Cetera)
03. Hold Me ‘Til The Morning Comes (Paul Anka/Peter Cetera)
04. Hard Habit To Break (Chicago/Peter Cetera/Bill Champlin)
05. You’re The Inspiration (Chicago/Peter Cetera)
06. Glory Of Love (Peter Cetera)
07. The Next Time I Fall (Peter Cetera/Amy Grant)
08. Will You Still Love Me? (Chicago/Jason Scheff/Bill Champlin)
09. I Don’t Wanna Live Without Your Love (Chicago/Bill Champlin)
10. Look Away (Chicago/Bill Champlin)
11. What Kind Of Man Would I Be? (Chicago/Jason Scheff)
12. I Wasn’t The One (Who Said Goodbye) (Agnetha Faltskog/Peter Cetera)
13. One Good Woman (Peter Cetera)
14. After All (Cher/Peter Cetera)
15. Restless Heart (Peter Cetera)
16. Feels Like Heaven (Peter Cetera/Chaka Khan)
17. Even A Fool Can See (Peter Cetera)
18. (I Wanna Take) Forever Tonight (Peter Cetera/Crystal Bernard)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.10.15 @ 19:33pm


Laudir De Oliveira currently lives in Rio de Janeiro, where he is Cultural Director of the Universidade do Grande Rio. In September 2010 he reunited with Chicago on the occasion of the band's concert at the HSBC Arena in Rio de Janeiro, performing Happy Man.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.11.15 @ 17:53pm


In 1990 Bill Champlin wrote, produced, and sang lead on "Hearts in Trouble", a song for the movie soundtrack of Days of Thunder. Originally a solo song, the producers of the movie decided, for marketing purposes, that it be released under the name of Chicago; so the band's horn section added a brass arrangement to the track and subsequently it was released as a single. In the summer of 1990, Chicago launched their Hearts in Trouble Tour.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.11.15 @ 18:37pm


Chicago recorded and released twelve songs that were not included on any of their regular studio albums with original material. Eleven of the songs are originals, one is a remake of an other artist's song. Three of the twelve studio recorded songs are included on a live album. Three of the twelve songs are original Christmas songs included on Christmas albums with remakes of other artists' Christmas songs. Four of the songs are original tracks included on greatest hits albums. Only "Good For Nothing" includes Peter Cetera. The song was recorded during Chicago 17, but wasn't included on the album, nor was it included as a bonus track on the remastered RHINO edition of Chicago 17. Good For Nothing was included on the USA For Africa: We Are The World album. We Are The World was released four months before Peter Cetera left Chicago while the band was on tour. Good For Nothing, Hearts In Trouble, Here In My Heart, The Only One, All Roads Lead To You and Show Me A Sign are also included in the Chicago Box Set from 2000.

01. 1985: Good For Nothing (USA For Africa: We Are The World)
02. 1990: Hearts In Trouble (Days Of Thunder Soundtrack)
03. 1997: Here In My Heart (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1997)
04. 1997: The Only One (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1997) with Lenny Kravitz
05. 1998: All Roads Lead To You (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1998 Volume II)
06. 1998: Show Me A Sign (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1998 Volume II)
07. 1998: Child's Prayer (Chicago 25: The Christmas Album)
08. 1999: Back To You (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert)
09. 1999: If I Should Lose You (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert)
10. 1999: You Love Keeps Lifting Me (Higher And Higher) (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert) with Michael McDonald
11. 2003: Bethlehem (Chicago Christmas: What's It Gonna Be Santa?)
12. 2011: Rockin' And Rollin' On Christmas Day (Chicago XXXIII: O Christmas Three)

THAT'S A WHOLE ALBUM. I HOPE THEY PUT IT OUT!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.11.15 @ 19:55pm


CHICAGO: THE SCATTERED SONGS

01. 1985: Good For Nothing (USA For Africa: We Are The World)
02. 1990: Hearts In Trouble (Days Of Thunder Soundtrack)
03. 1997: Here In My Heart (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1997)
04. 1997: The Only One (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1997) with Lenny Kravitz
05. 1998: All Roads Lead To You (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1998 Volume II)
06. 1998: Show Me A Sign (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1998 Volume II)
07. 1998: Child's Prayer (Chicago 25: The Christmas Album)
08. 1999: Back To You (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert)
09. 1999: If I Should Lose You (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert)
10. 1999: Your Love Keeps Lifting Me (Higher And Higher) (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert) with Michael McDonald
11. 2003: Bethlehem (Chicago Christmas: What's It Gonna Be Santa?)
12. 2011: Rockin' And Rollin' On Christmas Day (Chicago XXXIII: O Christmas Three)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.12.15 @ 09:00am


Chicago is definitely going to be inducted in 2016. Chicago is this year's Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Beach Boys on the ballot. Chicago is the top selling and highest Billboard charting act on the nominees list this year. They will win the Rock Hall's fan poll and win the votes of the Rock Hall committee and past inductees.

Chicago will win the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame poll and they will be inducted. Will Chicago finally get a Rolling Stone Magazine cover story? Will there also be a Rolling Stone Special Collectors Edition on Chicago? If so, should it just be the Chicago logo all over the front cover, staying in theme with all of Chicago's album covers?

The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys and the Bee Gees have all been on the cover of Rolling Stone, as well as having been given special collectors edition magazines made just for them. RUSH and KISS made it onto Rolling Stone Magazine after they were inducted. I think Chicago is next!

Chicago finishing # 1 in the fan poll is no surprise to me. Let me remind you who you are dealing with here! This is Chicago! Of the 15 nominees on this year's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ballot, Chicago is the number one all-time selling and charting act on the list. Chicago at # 1 makes sense!! Rock and Roll's Holy Quintet on the Billboard charts: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys, The Bee Gees, Chicago! Chicago will join the rest in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 2016!

POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, David Foster, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Al Kooper, Bobby Colomby, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Jeff Lynne, Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Shmit, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian "Ali" Campbell, Huey Lewis, Johnny Colla, Chris Isaak, Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Chris Cornell, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Tom Morello, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon, Robin Thicke

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12.13.15 @ 07:39am


Chicago is off on April 8!
Peter Cetera is off in April!
Danny Seraphine is off on April 8!
Bill Champlin is off in April!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 12.13.15 @ 08:19am


I'll check my work schedule. Perhaps I am off too.

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 12.13.15 @ 12:01pm


This should be interesting. Lots of folks now feel Chicago will indeed get in before Cheap Trick and with two days remaining before ballots are turned in, I'm sure things are gonna get tighter with these two acts. If Chicago gets in, it'll be redemption from critics who dismissed them as corny sellouts in the '80s.

Posted by Tim on Sunday, 12.13.15 @ 14:52pm


POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, David Foster, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Al Kooper, Bobby Colomby, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Jeff Lynne, Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Shmit, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian "Ali" Campbell, Huey Lewis, Johnny Colla, Chris Isaak, Harry Connick Jr., Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Chris Cornell, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Tom Morello, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon, Robin Thicke

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.15.15 @ 09:11am


I'm contacting Chicago's management. Whoever gives the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction speech for Chicago, should come on stage wearing a Chicago Blackhawks jersey and carrying the Stanley Cup, and have it put on display on the stage during Chicago's induction. The NHL guards will be there too to protect the Stanley Cup.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.15.15 @ 09:38am


Message Sent:

Whoever gives the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction speech for Chicago, should come on stage wearing a Chicago Blackhawks jersey and carrying the Stanley Cup, and have it put on display on the stage during Chicago's induction. Contact the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto and tell them to have the Stanley Cup ready for April 8 in New York City.

Contact:
Brookfield Place
30 Yonge Street
Toronto, ON Canada
M5E 1X8
(416) 360-7765
info@hhof.com

First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Then in 2013, the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during the Barack Obama presidency. Then in 2015, the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during the Barack Obama presidency. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016, during the Barack Obama presidency.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.16.15 @ 08:42am


I think Chicago's induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will open the door for Jan & Dean, and the Monkees to finally be nominated and inducted.

Chicago's induction will remind the nominating committee that Chicago is the # 2 American band behind the Beach Boys on Billboard, and that the Beach Boys performed on Chicago albums in 1970s and that the Beach Boys toured with Chicago in the 70s and 80s. The Beach Boys were surf music, Chicago had one "Beach Boys feel" song called Wishing You Were Here, which the Beach Boys performed on. Chicago's induction will remind the nominating committee of the Beach Boys, which will remind the nominating committee of Jan and Dean.

Chicago's induction will also remind the nominating committee of the British invasion of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, which will remind them of the Monkees, whose 60s TV show aired in reruns in the 80s on MTV while Chicago's cheesy 80s music videos were also playing on MTV.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.16.15 @ 09:40am


Ladies and gentlemen, Chicago!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 01:05am


ROCK AND ROLL BANDS WHO BEAT CHICAGO INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

The Beach Boys * The Beatles * The Rolling Stones * The Kinks * The Who * The Four Seasons * The Byrds * The Yardbirds * The Jimi Hendrix Experience * Sly and the Family Stone * Cream * Creedence Clearwater Revival * The Doors * The Animals * The Band * The Grateful Dead * Led Zeppelin * The Allman Brothers Band * Jefferson Airplane * Pink Floyd * The Velvet Underground * Buffalo Springfield * Crosby, Stills and Nash * Parliament-Funkadelic * The (Young) Rascals * The Bee Gees * The Jackson Five * The Mamas and the Papas * Santana * The Eagles * Fleetwood Mac * Earth, Wind & Fire * Lovin’ Spoonful * Aerosmith * Queen * Steely Dan * Ramones * Talking Heads * Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers * AC/DC * The Clash * The Police * Elvis Costello & the Attractions * Traffic * ZZ Top * The Pretenders * U2 * Black Sabbath * Blondie * Lynyrd Skynyrd * Sex Pistols * R.E.M. * Van Halen * The Ventures * The Dave Clark Five * Metallica * ABBA * Genesis * The Hollies * The Stooges * Alice Cooper * Guns N’ Roses * Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Small Faces/Faces * Heart * Rush * KISS * Hall & Oates * Nirvana * Green Day * Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band * Joan Jett and the Blackhearts * Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble * The Paul Butterfield Blues Band * Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys * Booker T. and the M.G.’s * Bill Haley and the Comets * Buddy Holly and the Crickets * Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps *

ROCK AND ROLL BANDS WHOM CHICAGO BEAT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

The Kingston Trio * The Surfaris * The Zombies * The Kingsmen * The Troggs * The Turtles * Herman’s Hermits * Paul Revere & the Raiders * The Flying Burrito Brothers * The Monkees * Jan & Dean * Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio * John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers * Big Brother and the Holding Company * Derek and the Dominos * The Spencer Davis Group * Blind Faith * Canned Heat * Humble Pie * Husker Du * Fairport Convention * The Mothers of Invention * Little Feat * Grand Funk Railroad * Tommy James and the Shondells * Three Dog Night * Steppenwolf * Thin Lizzy * Procol Harum * Roxy Music * The Blues Project * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Electric Flag * Tower of Power * The Guess Who * Bachman-Turner Overdrive * War * The Meters * The Neville Brothers * Kool & the Gang * The Commodores * New York Dolls * MC5 * The J. Geils Band * The Sir Douglas Quintet * Electric Light Orchestra * Emerson, Lake and Palmer * The Moody Blues * Yes * Jethro Tull * King Crimson * The Doobie Brothers * The Cars * Dire Straits * Motorhead * Iron Maiden * Judas Priest * Air Supply * America * Boston * Kansas * Journey * Styx * Toto * Foreigner * REO Speedwagon * Squeeze * Wings * The Silver Bullet Band * The Revolution * Kraftwerk * Chic * Joy Division * New Order * Sonic Youth * Miami Sound Machine * Wham! * Huey Lewis and the News * Bon Jovi * INXS * B-52’s * Duran Duran * Depeche Mode * Def Leppard * Tears For Fears * Los Lobos * The Cure * The Smiths * The Replacements * Nine Inch Nails * Soundgarden * Alice In Chains * Jane’s Addiction * The Black Crowes * Pixies * Smashing Pumpkins * Pearl Jam * Radiohead * Stone Temple Pilots * Dave Matthews Band * The Wallflowers * No Doubt

ROCK AND ROLL BANDS INDUCTED THE SAME YEAR AS CHICAGO

Deep Purple * Cheap Trick

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 04:24am


First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Then in 2013, the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during the Barack Obama presidency. Then in 2015, the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during the Barack Obama presidency. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016, during the Barack Obama presidency.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 04:30am


THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. 1988: The Beatles
02. 1988: The Beach Boys
03. 1989: The Rolling Stones
04. 1997: The Bee Gees
05. 2016: Chicago

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 04:54am


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/blogs/staff-blog/rolling-stones-list-of-the-25-undisputed-guilty-pleasure-bands-20070409

Chicago is the fourth act from Rolling Stone’s 2008 List of the 25 Undisputed Guilty Pleasure Bands to be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. The first was ABBA, the second was Rush, the third was Daryl Hall and John Oates.

Some of us still have a thing for Rush or Paula Abdul or RuPaul. That’s cool. To each his or her own and all that. But there are some artists who unequivocally leave much to be desired in terms of, say, quality or coolness, but still manage to rock, or at least inspire serious if shameful adoration on a mass scale. It’s these artists that we’re interested in. Artists who absolutely belong on a best guilty pleasures ever list, because that’s what we’re creating.

Those of you who proudly listen to Rush at top volume in your car all summer long, (ie thereby displaying the total lack of guilty in your pleasure), take note:? Rush come in at Number One on our official list of the Rock’s Undisputed Guilty Pleasure Bands. Like the rest of the acts on our list (which you helped put together), we love them to death, and can never forgive ourselves. The full list:

1. Rush
2. Electric Light Orchestra
3. Journey
4. ABBA
5. Chicago
6. Boston
7. Foreigner
8. Bread
9. Bon Jovi
10. New Edition
11. The Monkees
12. Motley Crue
13. STYX
14. Eddie Money
15. Simply Red
16. Kelly Clarkson
17. America
18. Wham!
19. R.E.O. Speedwagon
20. Poison
21. Lionel Richie
22. Kansas
23. Air Supply
24. Hall & Oates
25. Britney Spears

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 08:42am


THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 10:25am


I bet that felt really good to write and post, Roy. As much as I LOVE to give you a hard time (and I will not stop), I would like to pause and give you a sincere, heartfelt congratulations. I know this means a lot to you. You must be a happy guy this morning.

Posted by Dezmond on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 10:35am


Thank you. After next year, you will never hear from again on the Chicago page, or anywhere else on FRL until Bernie Taupin is inducted.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 10:44am


HORN PLAYERS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1987 Louis Jordan
02. 1990 Louis Armstrong
03. 1990 John Entwistle (The Who)
04. 1993 Jerry Martini (Sly & The Family Stone)
05. 1993 Cynthia Robinson (Sly & The Family Stone)
06. 2000 King Curtis
07. 2000 Andrew Woolfolk (Earth, Wind & Fire)
08. 2002 Isaac Hayes
09. 2003 Steve Douglas
10. 2006 Herb Alpert
11. 2006 Miles Davis
12. 2008 Denis Payton (The Dave Clark Five)
13. 2012 Joey D’Ambrosio (The Comets)
14. 2012 Rudy Pompilli (The Comets)
15. 2014 Clarence Clemons (The E Street Band)
16. 2014 Gary Tallent (The E Street Band)
17. 2016 Walter Parazaider (Chicago)
18. 2016 Lee Loughnane (Chicago)
19. 2016 James Pankow (Chicago)

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 11:11am



http://ultimateclassicrock.com/chicago-rock-hall-peter-cetera/?trackback=tsmclip

Chicago Open to Rock Hall Reunion With Peter Cetera

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.17.15 @ 20:26pm


I would state that, since Chicago is now officially in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the time has come to induct Boston, Kansas, Nazareth, Alabama, America, Europe and Asia--except I already did that, seven years ago. I'll shut up now. You're welcome!

Oh, and they should also consider the Miami Sound Machine, the Ohio Players, L.A. Guns, the MC5, John Denver, and--of course--Hannah Montana.

Posted by Joe on Friday, 12.18.15 @ 02:37am


http://petercetera.com

I'm waiting for Peter Cetera to comment on his induction.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.18.15 @ 08:11am


http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/17/chicago-rock-roll-hall-fame-jimmy-pardo

Why Chicago belongs in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, according to superfan Jimmy Pardo
Never Not Funny host Jimmy Pardo explains Chicago's place in rock and roll history.
BY KYLE ANDERSON

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.18.15 @ 08:26am


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fk7sY55TrU

IT'S OFFICIAL! CHICAGO! Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2016!

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.18.15 @ 19:59pm


Philip Bailey, Ralph Johnson, and Verdine White will most likely be the presenters for Chicago, but I'm hoping it isn't because it doesn't get me excited.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.19.15 @ 06:36am


One of those most important R&B/funk outfits of the 1970s, a group that brought many Afrocentric ideas into the mainstream, accepts Chicago- one of the whitest groups that ever lived- as their peers, tours with them, and always takes the time to praise their talent- and you don't find it exciting?

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Saturday, 12.19.15 @ 06:44am


One of those most important R&B/funk outfits of the 1970s, a group that brought many Afrocentric ideas into the mainstream, accepts Chicago- one of the whitest groups that ever lived- as their peers, tours with them, and always takes the time to praise their talent- and you don't find it exciting?

Posted by AlexVoltaire on Saturday, 12.19.15 @ 06:44am

I don't know. Maybe it's because they have never given a Rock Hall induction speech. I don't know how much they know. I don't know how much they will delve into the Rock band with horns aspect. I don't know how deep they will get in their speech. Will they talk about each member of the band?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.19.15 @ 07:43am


THE 1992 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)
08. Bill Champlin (1981-2009: vocals; keyboards; guitar; songwriter)
09. Jason Scheff (1985-Present: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
10. DaWayne Bailey (1986-1994: guitar; songwriter)
11. Tris Imboden (1990-Present: drums; songwriter)

THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.19.15 @ 08:08am


I don't know for sure if Laudir De Oliveira was inducted with Chicago onto the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but he did not attend the event.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.19.15 @ 08:10am


http://www.walkoffame.com/chicago

CHICAGO: THE 1992 HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.19.15 @ 08:28am


HORN PLAYERS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1987 Louis Jordan
02. 1990 Louis Armstrong
03. 1990 John Entwistle (The Who)
04. 1993 Jerry Martini (Sly & The Family Stone)
05. 1993 Cynthia Robinson (Sly & The Family Stone)
06. 2000 King Curtis
07. 2000 Andrew Woolfolk (Earth, Wind & Fire)
08. 2002 Isaac Hayes
09. 2003 Steve Douglas
10. 2004 Chris Wood (Traffic)
11. 2006 Herb Alpert
12. 2006 Miles Davis
13. 2008 Denis Payton (The Dave Clark Five)
14. 2012 Joey D’Ambrosio (The Comets)
15. 2012 Rudy Pompilli (The Comets)
16. 2014 Clarence Clemons (The E Street Band)
17. 2014 Gary Tallent (The E Street Band)
18. 2016 Walter Parazaider (Chicago)
19. 2016 Lee Loughnane (Chicago)
20. 2016 James Pankow (Chicago)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.19.15 @ 16:19pm


First of all, let me say Congratulations to Robert Lamm, James Pankow, Lee Loughnane, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine, Peter Cetera and the family of the late Terry Kath. Your induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is long overdue. I have personally been listening to your songs via f.m. radio for more than 46 years. You are probably the group that probably had most influenced my taste in music. I owe a lot to you for expanding my musical horizons. I am glad that the members of Rush, my co-favorite band along with Yes, were very pleased about your induction also. I only wish that Yes, The Moody Blues, E.L.O., Sade, Carly Simon and Duran Duran had been there with you, also. Perhaps, next year?

Roy and Zuzu, you should be thrilled, your avid support for Chicago has finally yielded results. Now, if you could only support my induction of the aforementioned artists, I would be most grateful. Thank you, in advance.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12.20.15 @ 15:04pm


First of all, let me say Congratulations to: Robert Lamm, James Pankow, Lee Loughnane, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine, Peter Cetera and the family of the late Terry Kath. Your induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is long overdue. I have personally been listening to your songs via f.m. radio for more than 46 years. You are probably the group that had most influenced my taste in music. I owe a lot to you for expanding my musical horizons. I am glad that the members of Rush, my co-favorite band along with Yes, were very pleased about your induction also. I only wish that Yes, The Moody Blues, E.L.O., Sade, Carly Simon and Duran Duran had been there with you, also. Perhaps, next year?

Roy and Zuzu, you should be thrilled, your avid support for Chicago has finally yielded results. Now, if you could only support my induction of the aforementioned artists, I would be most grateful. Thank you, in advance.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12.20.15 @ 15:04pm

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 12.20.15 @ 15:40pm


http://radio.com/2015/12/21/chicago-to-reunite/?cid=twitter_Radiodotcom

Chicago to Reunite with Peter Cetera and Danny Seraphine at Rock Hall Induction

Robert Lamm thinks the presenter for Chicago will either be Brian Wilson, Don Henley, Philip Bailey, Clive Davis. or Questlove.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.22.15 @ 07:17am


Peter Cetera will attend, but won't perform. This sucks!

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.22.15 @ 21:15pm


Peter Cetera is still attending the ceremony. He will collect his trophy and give his speech, but he won't perform with the band. Is Peter Cetera an a##hole or is he just shy? He does actually still play bass, contrary to the Robert Lamm interview.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.23.15 @ 08:58am


http://petercetera.com

Ah Ha! It appears that maybe Peter Cetera will perform with Chicago at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony, and he was just pissed that Robert Lamm spoke on his behalf to the media. I don't know, that just how I feel. Peter Cetera will be making his official announcement about the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame after January 1.

Peter Speaks:

December 23, 2015

ATTENTION!! IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING HALL OF FAME!!!

Yes, that’s right. Tell all your friends, tell the press, tell radio, TV, newspapers, why you can even tell The Pres, Hillary, Trump everyone. I will make an important announcement on this site after the New Year that will shock the WOOORRRLLDD! Ok, maybe not the world but at least maybe parts of the USA and Canada! I'll have a statement that will come from me and me only regarding my participation in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Until then, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and Ill speak to you shortly after New Year’s day with my earthshaking announcement regarding the Hall Of Fame! Ciao, Peter

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.23.15 @ 17:53pm


I have a feeling Peter Cetera will perform at the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, but not with Chicago. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will give Peter Cetera the option to perform separately, with his own band, an offer which reportedly was given to, but turned down by David Lee Roth for Van Halen's 2007 induction. That year there were only 5 inductees.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12.23.15 @ 22:43pm


https://www.facebook.com/Danny-Seraphine-40406623440/

From Danny Seraphine on Facebook :

" Today is a good day to be alive......I'm very grateful for our induction into to the RRHOF. I never realized it would feel this good. This award belongs to all of us, ESPECIALLY THE FANS that let their voices be heard for all these years. Thank you for never giving up, it wouldn't have happened without your support. Thank you to Jann Wenner and the RRHOF voting board for voting us in on the first ballot, that is also great honor. This really couldn't have come at a better time, we can hopefully join together and celebrate the legacy and enduring body of music we all created in 1967. I know Terry is smiling on us all and hopefully we will do him proud and give the fans a performance they will never forget. I just want to reassure everyone that I WILL be performing with Chicago at the RRHOF induction ceremony. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Peace Danny Seraphine "

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12.24.15 @ 05:29am


Chicago Hits With Peter Cetera On Lead Vocals (Solo) 1969-1979

01. Questions 67 And 68
02. 25 Or 6 To 4
03. Lowdown
04. Just You N' Me
05. Feelin' Stronger Everyday
06. (I've Been) Searchin' So Long
07. Wishing You Were Here
08. Call On Me
09. Happy Man
10. Old Days
11. If You Leave Me Now
12. Baby, What A Big Surprise
13. No Tell Lover
14. Alive Again
15. Street Player

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12.25.15 @ 12:41pm


SOLO ARTISTS CHICAGO BEAT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Chuck Willis * Esther Phillips * Johnny Ace * Joe Tex * Mary Wells * Dionne Warwick * Chubby Checker * Phil Ochs * Joan Baez * Judy Collins * Patsy Cline * Connie Francis * Willie Nelson * Merle Haggard * Conway Twitty * George Jones * Kris Kristofferson * Dolly Parton * Kenny Rogers * Gram Parsons * Warren Zevon * Todd Rundgren * Captain Beefheart * Joe Cocker * Barry White * Patti LaBelle * Roberta Flack * Chaka Khan * Janet Jackson * Whitney Houston * Mariah Carey

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12.26.15 @ 16:37pm


POSSIBLE CANDIDATES FOR GIVING THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Clive Davis, David Foster, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Al Jardine, Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Bruce Johnston, Al Kooper, Bobby Colomby, Barry Gibb, Philip Bailey, Verdine White, Ralph Johnson, Al McKay, Jeff Lynne, Don Henley, Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Shmit, Steven Van Zandt, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Sting, Gerry Beckley, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball, Alistair Ian "Ali" Campbell, Huey Lewis, Johnny Colla, Chris Isaak, Harry Connick Jr., Dave Matthews, Lenny Kravitz, Axl Rose, Slash, Chris Cornell, Dave Grohl, Taylor Hawkins, Tom Morello, Rob Thomas, Stephan Jenkins, Mark McGrath, Steve Malkmus, Trey Anastasio, Justin Vernon, Robin Thicke, Questlove

ROCK AND ROLL BANDS WHO BEAT CHICAGO INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

The Beach Boys * The Beatles * The Rolling Stones * The Kinks * The Who * The Four Seasons * The Byrds * The Yardbirds * The Jimi Hendrix Experience * Sly and the Family Stone * Cream * Creedence Clearwater Revival * The Doors * The Animals * The Band * The Grateful Dead * Led Zeppelin * The Allman Brothers Band * Jefferson Airplane * Pink Floyd * The Velvet Underground * Buffalo Springfield * Crosby, Stills and Nash * Parliament-Funkadelic * The (Young) Rascals * The Bee Gees * The Jackson Five * The Mamas and the Papas * Santana * The Eagles * Fleetwood Mac * Earth, Wind & Fire * Lovin’ Spoonful * Aerosmith * Queen * Steely Dan * Ramones * Talking Heads * Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers * AC/DC * The Clash * The Police * Elvis Costello & the Attractions * Traffic * ZZ Top * The Pretenders * U2 * Black Sabbath * Blondie * Lynyrd Skynyrd * Sex Pistols * R.E.M. * Van Halen * The Ventures * The Dave Clark Five * Metallica * ABBA * Genesis * The Hollies * The Stooges * Alice Cooper * Guns N’ Roses * Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Small Faces/Faces * Heart * Rush * KISS * Hall & Oates * Nirvana * Green Day * Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band * Joan Jett and the Blackhearts * Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble * The Paul Butterfield Blues Band * Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys * Booker T. and the M.G.’s * Bill Haley and the Comets * Buddy Holly and the Crickets * Gene Vincent and the Blue Caps

ROCK AND ROLL BANDS WHOM CHICAGO BEAT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

The Kingston Trio * The Surfaris * The Zombies * The Kingsmen * The Troggs * The Turtles * Herman’s Hermits * Paul Revere & the Raiders * The Flying Burrito Brothers * The Monkees * Jan & Dean * Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio * John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers * Big Brother and the Holding Company * Derek and the Dominos * The Spencer Davis Group * Blind Faith * Canned Heat * Humble Pie * Husker Du * Fairport Convention * The Mothers of Invention * Little Feat * Grand Funk Railroad * Tommy James and the Shondells * Three Dog Night * Steppenwolf * Thin Lizzy * Procol Harum * Roxy Music * The Blues Project * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Electric Flag * Tower of Power * The Guess Who * Bachman-Turner Overdrive * War * The Meters * The Neville Brothers * Kool & the Gang * The Commodores * New York Dolls * MC5 * The J. Geils Band * The Sir Douglas Quintet * Electric Light Orchestra * Emerson, Lake and Palmer * The Moody Blues * Yes * Jethro Tull * King Crimson * The Doobie Brothers * The Cars * Dire Straits * Motorhead * Iron Maiden * Judas Priest * Devo * Air Supply * America * Boston * Kansas * Journey * Styx * Toto * Foreigner * REO Speedwagon * Squeeze * Wings * The Silver Bullet Band * The Revolution * Kraftwerk * Chic * Joy Division * New Order * Sonic Youth * Miami Sound Machine * Wham! * Huey Lewis and the News * Bon Jovi * INXS * B-52’s * Duran Duran * Depeche Mode * Def Leppard * Tears For Fears * Los Lobos * The Cure * The Smiths * The Replacements * Nine Inch Nails * Soundgarden * Alice In Chains * Jane’s Addiction * The Black Crowes * Pixies * Smashing Pumpkins * Pearl Jam * Radiohead * Stone Temple Pilots * Dave Matthews Band * Rage Against The Machine * The Wallflowers * No Doubt

SOLO ARTISTS CHICAGO BEAT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Chuck Willis * Esther Phillips * Johnny Ace * Joe Tex * Mary Wells * Dionne Warwick * Chubby Checker * Phil Ochs * Joan Baez * Judy Collins * Patsy Cline * Connie Francis * Willie Nelson * Merle Haggard * Conway Twitty * George Jones * Kris Kristofferson * Dolly Parton * Kenny Rogers * Gram Parsons * Warren Zevon * Todd Rundgren * Captain Beefheart * Joe Cocker * Barry White * Patti LaBelle * Roberta Flack * Carly Simon * Cher * Chaka Khan * Janet Jackson * Whitney Houston * Mariah Carey

ROCK AND ROLL BANDS INDUCTED THE SAME YEAR AS CHICAGO

Deep Purple * Cheap Trick

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 12.29.15 @ 08:25am


BIRTH DATES AND PLACES OF BIRTH OF THE MEMBERS OF CHICAGO, OLDEST TO YOUNGEST:

01. Laudir De Oliveira born on Saturday, January 6, 1940 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
02. Peter Cetera born on Wednesday, September 13, 1944 in Chicago, Illinois
03. Robert Lamm born on Friday, October 13, 1944 in Brooklyn, New York
04. Walter Parazaider born on Wednesday, March 14, 1945 in Chicago, Illinois
05. Terry Kath born on Thursday, January 31, 1946 in Chicago, Illinois
06. Lee Loughnane born on Monday, October 21, 1946 in Elmwood Park, Illinois
07. Bill Champlin born on Wednesday, May 21, 1947 in Oakland, California
08. James Pankow born on Wednesday, August 20, 1947 in St. Louis, Missouri
09. Danny Seraphine born on Saturday, August 28, 1948 in Chicago, Illinois
10. Tris Imboden born on Friday, July, 27, 1951 in Orange County, California
11. Donnie Dacus born on Friday, October 12, 1951 in Galena Park, Texas
12. Jason Scheff born on Monday, April 16, 1962 in San Diego, California

Posted by Roy on Friday, 01.1.16 @ 08:02am


The Producers of the Chicago Studio Albums with Original Material

01. 1969 The Chicago Transit Authority by James William Guercio
02. 1970 Chicago by James William Guercio
03. 1971 Chicago III by James William Guercio
04. 1972 Chicago V by James William Guercio
05. 1973 Chicago VI by James William Guercio
06. 1974 Chicago VII by James William Guercio
07. 1975 Chicago VIII by James William Guercio
08. 1976 Chicago X by James William Guercio
09. 1977 Chicago XI by James William Guercio
10. 1978 Hot Streets by Phil Ramone
11. 1979 Chicago 13 by Phil Ramone
12. 1980 Chicago XIV by Tom Dowd
13. 1982 Chicago 16 by David Foster
14. 1984 Chicago 17 by David Foster
15. 1987 Chicago 18 by David Foster
16. 1988 Chicago 19 by Ron Nevison and Chas Sandford
17. 1991 Twenty 1 by Ron Nevison and Humberto Gatica
18. 2006 Chicago XXX by Jay DeMarcus
19. 2008 Chicago XXXII: Stone of Sisyphus by Peter Wolf
20. 2014 Chicago XXXVI: Now by Hank Linderman

Posted by Roy on Friday, 01.1.16 @ 08:04am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkA9w1c4oTA

Deep Purple's David Coverdale sang Chicago's Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is with the band the Government in 1971, and now Chicago and Deep Purple are being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in the same year.

Deep Purple
South California Purples by Chicago

Posted by Roy on Friday, 01.1.16 @ 08:16am


Peter Speaks:

January 3, 2016

Tune in to LA’s “Mark in the morning” drive time radio show at 8:30am this Monday morning! I’ll be talking about my upcoming Jan. 9th show at the Saban theatre fearuring special guests “City City”. I’ll also talk about my decision on the RnR HoF induction ceremony! Whoopde Do!

December 30, 2015

I’m getting ready to post my reply to the Hall of Fame about my participation for the show. It should happen within the first week of the new year. Tell your friends, relatives, Romans and of course countrymen. see ya, P

100.3 FM The Sound Los Angeles

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.3.16 @ 21:12pm



PETER CETERA WILL PERFORM WITH CHICAGO AT THE INDUCTION CEREMONY

Peter Speaks:

January 6, 2016

Hello Everyone! I’ve just sent this mail to everyone involved. Hopefully it will answer all the questions concerning my participation in the Hall of Fame induction..Thanks

Hello Robert, Danny, Lee, Walter, and James. I’m sending this to you and Danny since yours are the only email addresses I have. Please forward this to everyone.

First off, congratulations all around on this long overdue honor. While our fans believe we should have been inducted years ago, they find it harder to believe that we haven’t even been nominated in all that time. Oh well, we are now!

All the credit goes to those who voted for us in overwhelming numbers during the recent poll. They alone deserve our thanks for finally making this happen.

I know we all look forward to speaking that evening and I’m sure we all wish that Terry was there to join us. That can’t happen unfortunately, but I have one thing that can.

As a finale, we can walk onstage together one last time as a group, I’ll strap on the bass, and we can do 25or6to4 in the key of E. I believe it would make for one fantastic Hall of Fame moment and satisfy those who have always wanted some sort of reunion.

Along with your current members, I would also like us to invite past members Laudir de Oliveira, Donnie Dacus, Kenny Cetera, Chris Pinnick, and Bill Champlin to join us up there as well on the song. They’ve all contributed to the legacy of the group and I think this would be a fitting way to honour them.

In the end, this should go a long way towards healing old wounds and showing solidarity on that night. At least I hope so!

See you all in Brooklyn, Peter

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01.6.16 @ 07:51am


Chicago will be the highest Billboard charting act at the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony. It's Chicago's music that should be performed at the All-Star jam, and it most likely will be. Not Deep Purple, and absolutely not N.W.A!!! That's not happening!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01.6.16 @ 08:09am


There is no doubt that the jam will be Chicago's "Look Away".

Dre is going to rock the mike with "if you see me walkin' by, with teardrops in my eye, look away, baby look away", then Ritchie Blackmore will solo, then...

Posted by Classic Rock on Wednesday, 01.6.16 @ 10:32am


MY ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

The year was 1966, and the place was Chicago's DePaul University. That was where a saxophone, clarinet, and flute player named Walter Parazaider got together with a drummer named Danny Seraphine, a guitar player and singer named Terry Kath, a trumpet player named Lee Loughnane, and a trombone player named James Pankow. Then in 1967, they met a piano player and a singer named Robert Lamm, from Chicago's Roosevelt University, who was performing at the Belmont Lounge and Yogi's Den in Chicago, and they asked him to join their band, which he did. The band would be called The Big Thing, and The Big Thing would play on the Midwest club circuit, building a following. An engagement during the second week of December 1967 proved to be an important gig. The Big Thing was an opening act at Barnaby's in Chicago for a band called the Exceptions, which was the biggest club band in the Midwest, and they stuck around and listened to them. If The Big Thing had stayed late to see the Exceptions, one of the Exceptions had come early to see The Big Thing. That night, singer and bass guitar player Peter Cetera would leave the Exceptions and join The Big Thing as its seventh member, and big things were about to happen.

James William Guercio, who had been a DePaul University student of music as well, moved the band out to Los Angeles and he would become their manager and producer. The Big Thing would become The Chicago Transit Authority, and then simply, Chicago. The plan from the beginning was to start a horn centered Rock and Roll band, a Rock and Roll band with a horn section, a Rock and Roll band with horns that were an integral part of the music, a Rock and Roll band whose horn section formed the heart of the band, a Rock and Roll band with a horn section that was another lead voice dancing with the vocals. Chicago's use of brass and woodwinds was like no other band. They took what is called a "melodic" approach to the horns rather than a "harmonic" approach. The horns actually acted as an additional vocal line, not just performing fill rifts. This is what was innovative about Chicago. Chicago was a rock 'n' roll band with horns, and a band way ahead of its time.

True to the need of the album-oriented rock format that launched them, the first four albums released by Chicago between 1969 and 1972 comprised three double albums and one quadruple album. That's 10 albums in three years. Chicago's next five albums: Chicago V, VI, VII, VIII, and IX all hit number one on the Billboard 200 Albums Chart, and included Chicago's eighth member, percussionist and conga player Laudir De Oliveira, who would remain with the band for their next five albums: Chicago X, XI, Hot Streets, 13 and XIV. Chicago took America and the world by storm without the help of their faces. Total subjugation of individual ego to the collective good of the group was the rule in Chicago, even to the point of using a logo rather than a picture of the band on all of their album covers. Chicago refused to emphasize celebrity over the music. The group turned its anonymous, professional air into a virtue and a marketing strategy. They were the faceless band behind a logo. Chicago's logo and its facelessness were very much in keeping with the style of the late '60's that valued group effort over individual ego. The group would come to be identified by a logo, and that logo, designed by Nick Fasciano, would become the most famous logo in Rock and Roll history. Some people though would offer a more sinister viewpoint of the logo, suggesting that management used the fact that nobody really knew what the members of Chicago really looked like as a reminder that nobody in the band was irreplaceable. Inspired by classical music, Chicago chose to number most of their albums with Roman numerals instead of giving them full names.

In 1969, Chicago released their first album, and to this day, it is considered to be one of the greatest groundbreaking albums ever produced in the history of Rock and Roll; that album being The Chicago Transit Authority. It was a blend of jazz, classical, and straight-ahead rock and roll. It included an unheralded synthesis of electric guitar rock and roll to more deeply rooted jazz influences and arrangements. It was funky, melodic, emotive, and politically intoned. I'm guessing most people in this room tonight have never listened to The Chicago Transit Authority. You can not buy a Chicago greatest hits record and understand what I'm talking about, but there are so many people that I am speaking for tonight who know exactly what I'm talking about. When The Chicago Transit Authority was released in 1969, it seemed to be the perfect synthesis of everything that was diametrically opposed. It had smooth, lush harmonies, it had the distorted feedback-drenched pyrotechnic guitar works of Terry Kath, it had the Beatles-meet-Motown bass works of Peter Cetera, it had the Buddy Rich-meets-Mitch Mitchell drum works of Danny Seraphine, it had the churning Hammond organ and classical piano works of Robert Lamm, and it had those powerful horns of Walter Parazaider, Lee Loughnane, and James Pankow weaving in and out of the arrangements, ending up toe-to-toe with everything else, and it all worked. The dynamics were perfect. The Chicago Transit Authority seemed to have everything in the right place. The horn section, the vocalists, and the rhythm section were tight and unified. Individually, the members of Chicago were all outstanding on their respective instruments. Unlike many bands of the era that utilized session musicians for their recordings, Chicago was completely self-contained.

Chicago's first 11 albums all showcased the impeccable musicianship of all the members of the band. At first, Chicago's sound was a hard sell. Radio stations wouldn't play their songs. Chicago's music was not easily identifiable what it was. Chicago could not be pigeonholed. Their sound met with resistance. Record executives turned to Guercio, and Guercio edited a number of Chicago's songs to make them shorter and more radio friendly. It was a compromise to be on the radio, and it was what it was. You can still listen to all of the band's songs in their entirety on all the early Chicago albums; it's the radio versions of the songs that are shorter. Basically, the songs were made shorter because (as Robert Lamm put it) Chicago's music wasn't for people with Attention Deficit Disorder. You know, because those are the people who listen to radio (people with A.D.D). As the '70's became the '80's and the demands of the music industry started to change, Chicago went looking for a new record label. During Chicago's search for a new record company, one label said to them, "If you get rid of the horn section we'll sign you," to which Chicago responded, "Go fck yourself!" Asking Chicago to get rid of the horn section is like asking Elton John to get rid of the piano, as James Pankow once said. Chicago would go on to sign with a new record label, and the horns stayed, and the band played on for forty more years.

Question: What do you get when you mix the voice of Ray Charles with the voice and the guitar playing of Jimi Hendrix? The answer is Chicago's first lead singer and lead guitarist, Terry Kath. Terry Kath had a very soulful quality to his voice and he was an outstanding, superb, deep and wicked virtuoso of a guitar player. One of the best examples of Terry Kath’s brilliant guitar playing can be heard on the hit single 25 Or 6 To 4 from Chicago’s second album. The song's distinctive descending riff has been murdered by as many beginning guitarists as has been done with Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water," Black Sabbath's "Iron Man" and Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven." The terrifyingly brilliant guitar solo performed by Terry Kath-a mountain few players ever dare to climb-is what makes 25 Or 6 To 4 absolutely essential. It is one of the greatest moments in Rock history for the electric guitar. The song's rather mystical title is just a reference to the time of day the song was written: 25 (or 26) minutes to 4 A.M. In a group known for its horns, it was Terry Kath's hard-edged guitar and soulful vocals that kept the band rooted in rock and roll. Chicago's line-up for such a large band was astonishingly stable, broken after eleven years and eleven albums only by the death of Terry Kath. After Terry Kath's tragic death in 1978, Chicago could have gone on to produce albums under a different name, they could have dissolved their band completely with each member going off to do other musical projects, or they could have just left the music business altogether and done other things with their lives, but they didn't. Chicago soldiered on for another forty years with the help of other notable lead rock guitarists, from Donnie Dacus and Chris Pinnick, to DaWayne Bailey and Keith Howland.

Chicago's second lead singer was Robert Lamm—an ambitious composer and piano player whose songwriting talents made him the default leader of the band in the early years. The Robert Lamm-penned hits included, Beginnings, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, Questions 67 & 68, Saturday in the Park and of course the afore mentioned, 25 or 6 to 4. His clear baritone voice was an asset, as were his stylized keyboarding skills. The International press portrayed Robert Lamm as Chicago's social conscience, and many of his best songs (Dialogue, Free, Harry Truman, State of the Union) all espoused political themes. Some of Robert Lamm's compositions had a swing feel to them as well. Frank Sinatra could have handled Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, very well. Actually, as the story goes, it was Colour My World, a portion from trombonist James Pankow’s Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon that Frank Sinatra wanted to do a remake of. It never happened though because Frank Sinatra wanted James Pankow to write an additional verse for it, and James Pankow wouldn't do it. You don't mess with a classic, even if the chairman of the board himself asks you to. Other Chicago songs penned by James Pankow included the hits, Make Me Smile, Old Days, Just You 'n' Me, I've Been Searchin' So Long, and Feelin' Stronger Everyday. That last one, by the way, was written by James Pankow and Chicago's original bass guitarist and third lead singer, Peter Cetera—the elastic tenor voice who was brought in to hit the high notes and keep up with the horn section, which the baritone voice of Robert Lamm and the gruff voice of Terry Kath couldn't.

If you were to ask any Chicago fan or Rock music historian to name the first three Chicago songs they think of when they hear someone say the name Peter Cetera, they will all tell you the exact same thing—what else but the smoochadelic classics, If You Leave Me Now, from the 1976 Chicago X album, Baby, What A Big Surprise from the 1977 Chicago XI album, and Hard To Say I'm Sorry from the 1982 Chicago 16 album (the comeback album). The sexiest, the sweetest, the most distinctive tenor voice in all of Rock And Roll history belongs to Peter Cetera mthrfckrs! There is no comparison. “High above shimmering, echoing ballads and rock-solid choruses that aim for the bleachers, Cetera’s tenor voice soars like a bird in flight. If it doesn’t strike you deep in your heart, it’ll at least stick deep in your head.” That's what an unknown source from Rolling Stone Magazine's website once said about Peter Cetera. Well Peter, I would like to tell you tonight on behalf of all your fans that your voice has actually done both for us. Your voice has struck us deep in our hearts and it is stuck deep in our heads and that is where we want it and that is how we like it! In May of 1985, after 18 years with the band, and after Chicago's biggest commercial success (the Chicago 17 album), Peter Cetera left Chicago for a solo career. Let's just say that things got really ugly. It was like a divorce, as Peter would say, and that's all I'm going to say about that because I wasn’t there, and I don’t know all the details, and it's none of my gddmn business! So, out walks Peter Cetera and in walks singer/songwriter and bass guitar player Jason Scheff, the son of Jerry Scheff, who was a bass guitar player for Elvis Presley. Jason Scheff has been with Chicago now for over 25 years. To tie this whole thing together, I have to take you back to 1981 because that was the year that singer/songwriter, keyboard player and guitarist, Bill Champlin, the lead singer of the late 60s and 70s psychedelic rock band, the Sons of Champlin, joined Chicago and played a huge role in the success of Chicago 16 and 17. During his 28 years with Chicago, Bill Champlin's husky voice was the perfect complement to both, Peter Cetera and Jason Scheff. Chicago 18, 19, Twenty-1, Night and Day, Stone of Sisyphus, Chicago XXX, and a whole bunch of greatest hits and Christmas albums all included Bill Champlin and Jason Scheff.

And finally, Chicago's original drummer; its backbone, Danny Seraphine. During his time with Chicago, Danny Seraphine played drums in a style that, ironically perhaps, can best be described as lyrical. To be a good drummer one must develop his own technique. Good timing and good taste is essential, but it is the technique that sets the truly great drummers apart from the rest, as Danny Seraphine once said. After 25 years with the band, let's just say a little more drama ensued, and Danny Seraphine was replaced by drummer Tris Imboden, who has been with Chicago now for over 25 years. And that folks was Chicago. 50 years, 50 albums, 5 number one albums, 130 million albums sold worldwide, 50 hits, and 3 number one songs later, Chicago is being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Now I am going to present you with information that must be stated! According to Billboard chart statistics, Chicago is second only to the Beach Boys as the most successful American Rock and Roll band of all time, in terms of both albums and singles. The number one Billboard charting Rock and Roll band of the 1970s was Chicago! The Top 4 charting Rock And Roll bands of all-time on both, the Billboard 200 Albums Chart, and the Billboard 100 Singles Chart just happen to be the same four bands on both lists, and this is how the lists read: Number 1 - The Beatles! Number 2 - The Rolling Stones! Number 3 - The Beach Boys! And at number 4, (all together now) Chicago! And in case you are wondering who's at number 5, it's The Bee Gees! And that says it all right there folks! And up until tonight, Chicago was the only band on those lists who had not been inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame yet! Also, of the 15 acts who were nominated for the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Chicago was the best-selling and highest Billboard charting act on the nominees list. So it makes sense that Chicago won the official 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame online fan poll. Chicago fans came out in full force and made sure that Chicago would finish at number one! They voted early and they voted often, as they were told to do!

And you know what's funny? First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Then in 2013 the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during the Barack Obama presidency. Then in 2015 the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during the Barack Obama presidency. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016, during the Barack Obama presidency, but Chicago the band isn't black, but they did play Rock and Roll, which stems from the blues, which is the music of black people as Jann Wenner said at the 2008 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony in reference to the induction of Little Walter. Walter is also the name of Chicago's saxophone, clarinet and flute player (Walter Parazaider that is). Well, you know what they say, things always happen in threes, and in this case it's Barack Obama, the Chicago Blackhawks, and Chicago the band. And all I have left to say is that it's about fckng time Chicago got inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame because this is Chicago mthrfckrs! This isn't Boston or Kansas, if you know what I mean! So, without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, CHICAGO!!!

THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)

Posted by Roy on Friday, 01.8.16 @ 09:56am


Yes! That last paragraph is pure Roy!

Posted by Dezmond on Friday, 01.8.16 @ 20:36pm


SOLO ARTISTS WHOM CHICAGO BEAT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Chuck Willis * Esther Phillips * Johnny Ace * Joe Tex * Mary Wells * Dionne Warwick * Chubby Checker * Phil Ochs * Joan Baez * Judy Collins * Patsy Cline * Connie Francis * Willie Nelson * Merle Haggard * Conway Twitty * George Jones * Kris Kristofferson * Dolly Parton * Kenny Rogers * Tom Jones * Gram Parsons * Warren Zevon * Todd Rundgren * Captain Beefheart * Joe Cocker * Barry White * Jimmy Buffett * Patti LaBelle * Roberta Flack * Carly Simon * Cher * Chaka Khan * Janet Jackson * Whitney Houston * Mariah Carey

ROCK AND ROLL BANDS WHOM CHICAGO BEAT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

The Kingston Trio * The Surfaris * The Zombies * The Kingsmen * The Troggs * The Turtles * Herman’s Hermits * Paul Revere & the Raiders * The Flying Burrito Brothers * The Monkees * Jan & Dean * Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio * John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers * Big Brother and the Holding Company * Derek and the Dominos * The Spencer Davis Group * Blind Faith * Canned Heat * Humble Pie * Husker Du * Fairport Convention * The Mothers of Invention * Little Feat * Grand Funk Railroad * Tommy James and the Shondells * Three Dog Night * Steppenwolf * Thin Lizzy * Procol Harum * Roxy Music * The Blues Project * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Electric Flag * Tower of Power * The Guess Who * Bachman-Turner Overdrive * War * The Meters * The Neville Brothers * Kool & the Gang * The Commodores * New York Dolls * MC5 * The J. Geils Band * The Sir Douglas Quintet * Electric Light Orchestra * Emerson, Lake and Palmer * The Moody Blues * Yes * Jethro Tull * King Crimson * The Doobie Brothers * Blue Oyster Cult * Jefferson Starship * The Cars * Dire Straits * Motorhead * Iron Maiden * Judas Priest * Devo * Air Supply * America * Boston * Kansas * Journey * Styx * Toto * Foreigner * REO Speedwagon * Squeeze * Wings * The Silver Bullet Band * The Revolution * Kraftwerk * Chic * Joy Division * New Order * Sonic Youth * Miami Sound Machine * Wham! * Huey Lewis and the News * Bon Jovi * INXS * B-52’s * Duran Duran * Depeche Mode * Def Leppard * Tears For Fears * Los Lobos * The Cure * The Smiths * The Replacements * Nine Inch Nails * Soundgarden * Alice In Chains * Jane’s Addiction * The Black Crowes * Pixies * Smashing Pumpkins * Pearl Jam * Radiohead * Stone Temple Pilots * Dave Matthews Band * Rage Against The Machine * The Wallflowers * No Doubt

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01.9.16 @ 07:50am


Chicago's Look Away, written by Diane Warren, was originally offered to Cheap Trick and they turned it down. Cheap Trick accepted the Flame instead, written by Bob Mitchell and Nick Graham. Look Away and The Flame were both # 1 hits! Chicago and Cheap Trick are now being inducted the same year.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 01.11.16 @ 08:27am


Congratulations to all of Chicago! So glad the brassiest rock band of all time is finally going to be inducted! I'm also glad Mr. Cetera will be present for the evening! Thanks for your great job in Chicago, Mr. Parazaider! Let's all hope it's Yes' turn to be inducted in 2017!

Posted by Bill Langan on Tuesday, 01.12.16 @ 15:22pm


UPDATE

HORN PLAYERS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1987: Louis Jordan
02. 1990: Louis Armstrong
03. 1990: John Entwistle (The Who)
04. 1993: Jerry Martini (Sly & The Family Stone)
05. 1993: Cynthia Robinson (Sly & The Family Stone)
06. 1993: Van Morrison
07. 1994: Garth Hudson (The Band)
08. 1996: David Bowie
09. 2000: King Curtis
10. 2000: Andrew Woolfolk (Earth, Wind & Fire)
11. 2002: Isaac Hayes
12. 2003: Steve Douglas
13. 2004: Chris Wood (Traffic)
14. 2006: Herb Alpert
15. 2006: Miles Davis
16. 2008: Denis Payton (The Dave Clark Five)
17. 2012: Joey D’Ambrosio (The Comets)
18. 2012: Rudy Pompilli (The Comets)
19. 2014: Clarence Clemons (The E Street Band)
20. 2014: Gary Tallent (The E Street Band)
21. 2016: Walter Parazaider (Chicago)
22. 2016: Lee Loughnane (Chicago)
23. 2016: James Pankow (Chicago)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.12.16 @ 20:04pm


UPDATE

HORN PLAYERS IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

01. 1987: Louis Jordan
02. 1989: Brian Jones (The Rolling Stones)
03. 1990: Louis Armstrong
04. 1990: John Entwistle (The Who)
05. 1993: Jerry Martini (Sly & The Family Stone)
06. 1993: Cynthia Robinson (Sly & The Family Stone)
07. 1993: Van Morrison
08. 1994: Garth Hudson (The Band)
09. 1996: David Bowie
10. 2000: King Curtis
11. 2000: Andrew Woolfolk (Earth, Wind & Fire)
12. 2002: Isaac Hayes
13. 2003: Steve Douglas
14. 2004: Chris Wood (Traffic)
15. 2006: Herb Alpert
16. 2006: Miles Davis
17. 2008: Denis Payton (The Dave Clark Five)
18. 2012: Joey D’Ambrosio (The Comets)
19. 2012: Rudy Pompilli (The Comets)
20. 2014: Clarence Clemons (The E Street Band)
21. 2014: Gary Tallent (The E Street Band)
22. 2016: Walter Parazaider (Chicago)
23. 2016: Lee Loughnane (Chicago)
24. 2016: James Pankow (Chicago)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.12.16 @ 20:26pm


Bruce Springsteen toured with Chicago in the early 70s. Chicago's Walter Parazaider, Lee Loughnane, and James Pankow are the first horn players to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame after Clarence Clemons and Gary Tallent, the horn players for the E Street Band.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01.12.16 @ 20:36pm


Chicago is being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 2016. The Chicago Blackhawks will be the 2016 Stanley Cup Champions!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01.13.16 @ 06:31am


Hillary Clinton was born in Chicago. Bernie Sanders graduated from the University of Chicago. One of them will be elected president in 2016. The Chicago Blackhawks have to win the Stanley Cup in 2016.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01.14.16 @ 10:03am


Hopefully the Blackhawks will NOT win the Stanley Cup in 2016.

Posted by dmg on Thursday, 01.14.16 @ 11:34am


Boy, Roy, will your face be red if the Republicans win the White House this November. Better start finding the Chicago connections for them too, just in case.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 01.14.16 @ 22:14pm


MY ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR CHICAGO

The year was 1966, and the place was Chicago's DePaul University. That was where a saxophone, clarinet, and flute player named Walter Parazaider got together with a drummer named Danny Seraphine, a guitar player and singer named Terry Kath, a trumpet player named Lee Loughnane, and a trombone player named James Pankow. Then in 1967, they met a piano player and a singer named Robert Lamm, from Chicago's Roosevelt University, who was performing at the Belmont Lounge and Yogi's Den in Chicago, and they asked him to join their band, which he did. The band would be called The Big Thing, and The Big Thing would play on the Midwest club circuit, building a following. An engagement during the second week of December 1967 proved to be an important gig. The Big Thing was an opening act at Barnaby's in Chicago for a band called the Exceptions, which was the biggest club band in the Midwest, and they stuck around and listened to them. If The Big Thing had stayed late to see the Exceptions, one of the Exceptions had come early to see The Big Thing. That night, singer and bass guitar player Peter Cetera would leave the Exceptions and join The Big Thing as its seventh member, and big things were about to happen.

James William Guercio, who had been a DePaul University student of music as well, moved the band out to Los Angeles and he would become their manager and producer. The Big Thing would become The Chicago Transit Authority, and then simply, Chicago. The plan from the beginning was to start a horn centered Rock and Roll band, a Rock and Roll band with a horn section, a Rock and Roll band with horns that were an integral part of the music, a Rock and Roll band whose horn section formed the heart of the band, a Rock and Roll band with a horn section that was another lead voice dancing with the vocals. Chicago's use of brass and woodwinds was like no other band. They took what is called a "melodic" approach to the horns rather than a "harmonic" approach. The horns actually acted as an additional vocal line, not just performing fill rifts. This is what was innovative about Chicago. Chicago was a rock 'n' roll band with horns, and a band way ahead of its time.

True to the need of the album-oriented rock format that launched them, the first four albums released by Chicago between 1969 and 1972 comprised three double albums and one quadruple album. That's 10 albums in three years. Chicago's next five albums: Chicago V, VI, VII, VIII, and IX all hit number one on the Billboard 200 Albums Chart, and included Chicago's eighth member, percussionist and conga player Laudir De Oliveira, who would remain with the band for their next five albums: Chicago X, XI, Hot Streets, 13 and XIV. Chicago took America and the world by storm without the help of their faces. Total subjugation of individual ego to the collective good of the group was the rule in Chicago, even to the point of using a logo rather than a picture of the band on all of their album covers. Chicago refused to emphasize celebrity over the music. The group turned its anonymous, professional air into a virtue and a marketing strategy. They were the faceless band behind a logo. Chicago's logo and its facelessness were very much in keeping with the style of the late '60's that valued group effort over individual ego. The group would come to be identified by a logo, and that logo, designed by Nick Fasciano, would become the most famous logo in Rock and Roll history. Some people though would offer a more sinister viewpoint of the logo, suggesting that management used the fact that nobody really knew what the members of Chicago really looked like as a reminder that nobody in the band was irreplaceable. Inspired by classical music, Chicago chose to number most of their albums with Roman numerals instead of giving them full names.

In 1969, Chicago released their first album, and to this day, it is considered to be one of the greatest groundbreaking albums ever produced in the history of Rock and Roll; that album being The Chicago Transit Authority. It was a blend of jazz, classical, and straight-ahead rock and roll. It included an unheralded synthesis of electric guitar rock and roll to more deeply rooted jazz influences and arrangements. It was funky, melodic, emotive, and politically intoned. I'm guessing most people in this room tonight have never listened to The Chicago Transit Authority. You can not buy a Chicago greatest hits record and understand what I'm talking about, but there are so many people that I am speaking for tonight who know exactly what I'm talking about. When The Chicago Transit Authority was released in 1969, it seemed to be the perfect synthesis of everything that was diametrically opposed. It had smooth, lush harmonies, it had the distorted feedback-drenched pyrotechnic guitar works of Terry Kath, it had the Beatles-meet-Motown bass works of Peter Cetera, it had the Buddy Rich-meets-Mitch Mitchell drum works of Danny Seraphine, it had the churning Hammond organ and classical piano works of Robert Lamm, and it had those powerful horns of Walter Parazaider, Lee Loughnane, and James Pankow weaving in and out of the arrangements, ending up toe-to-toe with everything else, and it all worked. The dynamics were perfect. The Chicago Transit Authority seemed to have everything in the right place. The horn section, the vocalists, and the rhythm section were tight and unified. Individually, the members of Chicago were all outstanding on their respective instruments. Unlike many bands of the era that utilized session musicians for their recordings, Chicago was completely self-contained.

Chicago's first 11 albums all showcased the impeccable musicianship of all the members of the band. At first, Chicago's sound was a hard sell. Radio stations wouldn't play their songs. Chicago's music was not easily identifiable what it was. Chicago could not be pigeonholed. Their sound met with resistance. Record executives turned to Guercio, and Guercio edited a number of Chicago's songs to make them shorter and more radio friendly. It was a compromise to be on the radio, and it was what it was. You can still listen to all of the band's songs in their entirety on all the early Chicago albums; it's the radio versions of the songs that are shorter. Basically, the songs were made shorter because as Robert Lamm put it, Chicago's music wasn't for people with Attention Deficit Disorder. You know, because those are the people who listen to radio (people with A.D.D). As the '70's became the '80's and the demands of the music industry started to change, Chicago went looking for a new record label. During Chicago's search for a new record company, one label said to them, "If you get rid of the horn section we'll sign you," to which Chicago responded, "Go fck yourself!" Asking Chicago to get rid of the horn section is like asking Elton John to get rid of the piano, as James Pankow once said. Chicago would go on to sign with a new record label, and the horns stayed, and the band played on for forty more years.

Question: What do you get when you mix the voice of Ray Charles with the voice and the guitar playing of Jimi Hendrix? The answer is Chicago's first lead singer and lead guitarist, Terry Kath. Terry Kath had a very soulful quality to his voice and he was an outstanding, superb, deep and wicked virtuoso of a guitar player. One of the best examples of Terry Kath’s brilliant guitar playing can be heard on the hit single 25 Or 6 To 4 from Chicago’s second album. The song's distinctive descending riff has been murdered by as many beginning guitarists as has been done with Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water," Black Sabbath's "Iron Man" and Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven." The terrifyingly brilliant guitar solo performed by Terry Kath-a mountain few players ever dare to climb-is what makes 25 Or 6 To 4 absolutely essential. It is one of the greatest moments in Rock history for the electric guitar. The song's rather mystical title is just a reference to the time of day the song was written: 25 (or 26) minutes to 4 A.M. In a group known for its horns, it was Terry Kath's hard-edged guitar and soulful vocals that kept the band rooted in rock and roll. Chicago's line-up for such a large band was astonishingly stable, broken after eleven years and eleven albums only by the death of Terry Kath. After Terry Kath's tragic death in 1978, Chicago could have gone on to produce albums under a different name, they could have dissolved their band completely with each member going off to do other musical projects, or they could have just left the music business altogether and done other things with their lives, but they didn't. Chicago soldiered on for another forty years with the help of other notable lead rock guitarists, from Donnie Dacus and Chris Pinnick, to DaWayne Bailey and Keith Howland.

Chicago's second lead singer was Robert Lamm, an ambitious composer and piano player whose songwriting talents made him the default leader of the band in the early years. The Robert Lamm-penned hits included, Beginnings, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, Questions 67 & 68, Saturday in the Park and of course the afore mentioned, 25 or 6 to 4. His clear baritone voice was an asset, as were his stylized keyboarding skills. The International press portrayed Robert Lamm as Chicago's social conscience, and many of his best songs (Dialogue, Free, Harry Truman, State of the Union) all espoused political themes. Some of Robert Lamm's compositions had a swing feel to them as well. Frank Sinatra could have handled Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, very well. Actually, as the story goes, it was Colour My World, a portion from trombonist James Pankow’s Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon that Frank Sinatra wanted to do a remake of. It never happened though because Frank Sinatra wanted James Pankow to write an additional verse for it, and James Pankow wouldn't do it. You don't mess with a classic, even if the chairman of the board himself asks you to. Other Chicago songs penned by James Pankow included the hits, Make Me Smile, Old Days, Just You 'n' Me, I've Been Searchin' So Long, and Feelin' Stronger Everyday. That last one, by the way, was written by James Pankow and Chicago's original bass guitarist and third lead singer, Peter Cetera—the elastic tenor voice who was brought in to hit the high notes and keep up with the horn section, which the baritone voice of Robert Lamm and the gruff voice of Terry Kath couldn't.

If you were to ask any Chicago fan or Rock music historian to name the first three Chicago songs they think of when they hear someone say the name Peter Cetera, they will all tell you the exact same thing—what else but the smoochadelic classics, If You Leave Me Now, from the 1976 Chicago X album, Baby, What A Big Surprise from the 1977 Chicago XI album, and Hard To Say I'm Sorry from the 1982 Chicago 16 album (the comeback album). The sexiest, the sweetest, the most distinctive tenor voice in all of Rock And Roll history belongs to Peter Cetera mthrfckrs! There is no comparison. “High above shimmering, echoing ballads and rock-solid choruses that aim for the bleachers, Cetera’s tenor voice soars like a bird in flight. If it doesn’t strike you deep in your heart, it’ll at least stick deep in your head.” That's what an unknown source from Rolling Stone Magazine's website once said about Peter Cetera. Well Peter, I would like to tell you tonight on behalf of all your fans that your voice has actually done both for us. Your voice has struck us deep in our hearts and it is stuck deep in our heads and that is where we want it and that is how we like it! In May of 1985, after 18 years with the band, and after Chicago's biggest commercial success (the Chicago 17 album), Peter Cetera left Chicago for a solo career. Let's just say that things got really ugly. It was like a divorce, as Peter would say, and that's all I'm going to say about that because I wasn’t there, and I don’t know all the details, and it's none of my gddmn business! So, out walks Peter Cetera and in walks singer/songwriter and bass guitar player Jason Scheff, the son of Jerry Scheff, who was a bass guitar player for Elvis Presley. Jason Scheff has been with Chicago now for 30 years. To tie this whole thing together, I have to take you back to 1981 because that was the year that singer/songwriter, keyboard player and guitarist, Bill Champlin, the lead singer of the late 60s and 70s psychedelic rock band, the Sons of Champlin, joined Chicago and played a huge role in the success of Chicago 16 and 17. During his 28 years with Chicago, Bill Champlin's husky voice was the perfect complement to both, Peter Cetera and Jason Scheff. Chicago 18, 19, Twenty-1, Night and Day, Stone of Sisyphus, Chicago XXX, and a whole bunch of greatest hits and Christmas albums all included Bill Champlin and Jason Scheff.

And finally, Chicago's original drummer; its backbone, Danny Seraphine. During his time with Chicago, Danny Seraphine played drums in a style that, ironically perhaps, can best be described as lyrical. To be a good drummer one must develop his own technique. Good timing and good taste is essential, but it is the technique that sets the truly great drummers apart from the rest, as Danny Seraphine once said. After 25 years with the band, let's just say a little more drama ensued, and Danny Seraphine was replaced by drummer Tris Imboden, who has been with Chicago now for 25 years. And that folks was Chicago. 50 years, 50 albums, 5 number one albums, 130 million albums sold worldwide, 50 hits, and 3 number one songs later, Chicago is being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Now I am going to present you with information that must be stated! According to Billboard chart statistics, Chicago is second only to the Beach Boys as the most successful American Rock and Roll band of all time, in terms of both albums and singles. The number one Billboard charting Rock and Roll band of the 1970s was Chicago! The Top 4 charting Rock And Roll bands of all-time on both, the Billboard 200 Albums Chart, and the Billboard 100 Singles Chart just happen to be the same four bands on both lists, and this is how the lists read: Number 1 - The Beatles! Number 2 - The Rolling Stones! Number 3 - The Beach Boys! And at number 4, (all together now) Chicago! And in case you are wondering who's at number 5, it's The Bee Gees! And that says it all right there folks! And up until tonight, Chicago was the only band on those lists who had not been inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame yet! Also, of the 15 acts who were nominated for the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Chicago was the best-selling and highest Billboard charting act on the nominees list. So it makes sense that Chicago won the official 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame online fan poll. Chicago fans came out in full force and made sure that Chicago would finish at number one! They voted early and they voted often, as they were told to do!

And you know what's funny? First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Then in 2013 the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during the Barack Obama presidency. Then in 2015 the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during the Barack Obama presidency. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016, during the Barack Obama presidency, but Chicago the band isn't black, but they did play Rock and Roll, which stems from the blues, which is the music of black people as Jann Wenner said at the 2008 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony in reference to the induction of Little Walter. Walter is also the name of Chicago's saxophone, clarinet and flute player (Walter Parazaider that is). Well, you know what they say, things always happen in threes, and in this case it's Barack Obama, the Chicago Blackhawks, and Chicago the band. But wait, there's more! The next president of the United States of America, to be elected this year, in November 2016, could either be Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders graduated in 1964 from the University of Chicago, and Hillary Clinton was born in Chicago in 1947, the same year that Chicago's trombone player James Pankow was born. Hillary Clinton is married to Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States of America. Bill Clinton's favorite band is Chicago, and Bill Clinton is a saxophone player like Chicago's Walter Parazaider. And now I am going to make a prediction. I predict that this coming June, the Chicago Blackhawks will win their 7th Stanley Cup in franchise history, and their fourth Stanley Cup during the Barack Obama presidency. And all I have left to say is that it's about fckng time Chicago got inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame because this is Chicago mthrfckrs! This isn't Boston or Kansas, if you know what I mean! So, without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, CHICAGO!!!

THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.17.16 @ 07:04am


BIRTH DATES AND PLACES OF BIRTH OF THE MEMBERS OF CHICAGO, OLDEST TO YOUNGEST:

01. Laudir De Oliveira born on Saturday, January 6, 1940 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
02. Peter Cetera born on Wednesday, September 13, 1944 in Chicago, Illinois
03. Robert Lamm born on Friday, October 13, 1944 in Brooklyn, New York
04. Walter Parazaider born on Wednesday, March 14, 1945 in Chicago, Illinois
05. Terry Kath born on Thursday, January 31, 1946 in Chicago, Illinois
06. Lee Loughnane born on Monday, October 21, 1946 in Elmwood Park, Illinois
07. Bill Champlin born on Wednesday, May 21, 1947 in Oakland, California
08. James Pankow born on Wednesday, August 20, 1947 in St. Louis, Missouri
09. Danny Seraphine born on Saturday, August 28, 1948 in Chicago, Illinois
10. Tris Imboden born on Friday, July, 27, 1951 in Orange County, California
11. Donnie Dacus born on Friday, October 12, 1951 in Galena Park, Texas
12. Jason Scheff born on Monday, April 16, 1962 in San Diego, California

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.17.16 @ 07:15am


http://digitaldreamdoor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4895

The Beatles and The Rolling Stones vs. The Beach Boys and Chicago vs. The Bee Gees

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01.20.16 @ 16:40pm


JANUARY 14, 2016 ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE PAGE 17: THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Rolling Stone shows a post-Terry Kath photo of Chicago, which includes Laudir De Oliveira and Donnie Dacus, who are not being inducted. Andy Greene calls Peter Cetera Chicago's guitarist, instead of bass guitarist or just bassist.

Chicago

The horn-powered band has been on the road for nearly 50 years, and the induction gives it a chance to play with original singer-guitarist Peter Cetera for the first time since 1985. "I'd find that very moving," says keyboardist Robert Lamm.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01.21.16 @ 19:46pm


https://rockhall.com/pressroom/announcements/the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-2016-inductees/#sthash.NDU91qZr.H7AYlAQB.dpuf

CHICAGO

Inductees: Peter Cetera, Terry Kath, Robert Lamm, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine

Fusing jazz and rock together in a time when the Beatles were still crashing onto the American shores and psychedelic rock was taking over the basements of teenagers; Chicago Transit Authority broke onto the scene unapologetically in 1969 with their self-titled double album, Chicago Transit Authority. A brazen mix of soulful rock, pop and jazz coupled with protester’s chants from the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention; the album received critical acclaim and later produced the classic singles “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?” and “Beginnings.” As the band began touring, under pressure from the city of Chicago, they shortened their name to simply, Chicago, and later released their second self-titled album, Chicago, in 1970. The center track, “Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon,” is a seven-part, 13-minute suite of pure melodic perfection composed by James Pankow who merged his love of classical, long song styles with Chicago’s signature sound. It yielded two unexpected singles “Make Me Smile” and “Colour My World” that quickly took the charts by storm reaching the Top Ten on Billboard’s Hot 100. From their inception through to the late 1970’s, Chicago mastered the art of making melodic jazz tinged rock with a keen pop sensibility. The group had a long string of jazz-rock mega hits including: “Make Me Smile,” “Saturday In The Park,” “25 Or 6 To 4,” “Feelin Stronger Every Day,” “If You Leave Me Now” and many others. Chicago’s early lineup created such an unmistakable sound and their inclusion into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is not only well-deserved, but an honor that has been overlooked. With over 21 Top 10 singles, 5 consecutive Number One albums, 11 Number One singles – fans that stretch across the globe and countless bands that have followed in their wake, Chicago’s legacy is unquestionable.

Selected discography: “Does Anyone Really Know What Time It Is?,” Chicago Transit Authority (1969) • “Make Me Smile,” “25 Or 6 To 4,” Chicago (1970) • “Saturday In The Park,” Chicago V (1972) • “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day,” “Just You ‘N’ Me,” Chicago VI (1973) • “Old Days” (1975) • “If You Leave Me Now,” Chicago X (1976) • “Baby What A Big Surprise,” Chicago XI (1977)

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.24.16 @ 08:18am


First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Dustin Byfuglien becomes the first African-American hockey player in NHL history to win the Stanley Cup (Note: Black goaltenders Grant Fuhr and Eldon Reddick won the Stanley Cup with the Edmonton Oilers, but they were Canadians). Then in 2013 the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during the Barack Obama presidency. Three more black hockey players win the Stanley Cup: Ray Emery, Jamal Mayers, and Johnny Oduya. Obama and Oduya both have five letters and they both begin with the letter O and end with the letter a. Obama and Oduya both have Kenyan ancestry. Then in 2015 the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during the Barack Obama presidency. Johnny Oduya becomes the second black hockey player in NHL history behind Grant Fuhr to win more than one Stanley Cup championship. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016, during the Barack Obama presidency. Well, you know what they say, things always happen in threes, and in this case it's Barack Obama, the Chicago Blackhawks, and Chicago the band. But wait, there's more! The next president of the United States of America, to be elected this year, in November 2016, could either be Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders graduated in 1964 from the University of Chicago, and Hillary Clinton was born in Chicago in 1947, the same year that Chicago's trombone player James Pankow was born. Hillary Clinton is married to Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States of America. Bill Clinton's favorite band is Chicago, and Bill Clinton is a saxophone player like Chicago's Walter Parazaider. And now I am going to make a prediction. I predict that this coming June 2016, the Chicago Blackhawks will win their seventh Stanley Cup in franchise history and their fourth Stanley Cup during the Barack Obama presidency.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.24.16 @ 09:49am


Hurray for Chicago! Finally! And I agree with the inductees being limited to only those 7 early members.

Posted by Telarock on Sunday, 01.24.16 @ 09:57am


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU8GD6AWicM

Peter Cetera played accordian with Weird Al Yankovic and Bruce Jenner.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01.28.16 @ 19:38pm


Rob Thomas of Matchbox 20 will induct Chicago.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 01.29.16 @ 17:28pm


I sent Rob Thomas my Chicago induction speech on Facebook.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 01.30.16 @ 18:06pm


Rob Thomas was born three years after The Chicago Transit Authority was released. Rob Thomas was born in February of 1972, six months before the release of Chicago V.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 02.3.16 @ 19:28pm


http://www.stereogum.com/1857616/chicagogate-update-peter-cetera-threatens-to-walk/news/

ChicagoGate Update: Peter Cetera Threatens To Walk

Peter Speaks:
February 5, 2016

Hello everyone! I know you’re all waiting to hear what’s happening with the Hall of Fame. I know how frustrated you all are, but trust me, no one is more tired and frustrated than yours truly. I had a conference call with the musical department today and I’ve presented another song option. Right now it’s about a fidy fidy chance that we can hammer something out by the weekend. Frankly folks, Im done if this doesn’t work out. Here’s hoping this one works…Ill let you know either way ASAP.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 02.5.16 @ 19:09pm


Cetera's having a tantrum and threatening to not play with them if it can't be the songs he wants.


Textbook example of a first-world problem.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 02.5.16 @ 19:59pm


Whether or not Peter Cetera performs, he is still attending the ceremony and collecting his trophy instead of asking to have it mailed to him.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02.6.16 @ 08:26am


Chicago is the highest charting act on Billboard at this year's Rock Hall induction ceremony. It's their music that should be played in the all-star jam. They should let Chicago perform 4 or 5 of their own songs at the ceremony. 4 for the induction and 1 for the all-star jam.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02.6.16 @ 08:32am


The Options

Beginnings
Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is
Saturday In The Park
25 Or 6 To 4
Make Me Smile
Feelin' Stronger Everyday
If You Leave Me Now

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02.6.16 @ 08:40am


SOLO ARTISTS WHOM CHICAGO BEAT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

Chuck Willis * Esther Phillips * Johnny Ace * Joe Tex * Mary Wells * Dionne Warwick * Chubby Checker * Paul Anka * Neil Sedaka * Link Wray * Dick Dale * Phil Ochs * Joan Baez * Judy Collins * Patsy Cline * Connie Francis * Willie Nelson * Merle Haggard * Conway Twitty * George Jones * Kris Kristofferson * Dolly Parton * Kenny Rogers * Tom Jones * Harry Nilsson * Gram Parsons * Warren Zevon * Todd Rundgren * Captain Beefheart * Joe Cocker * Barry White * Jimmy Buffett * Patti LaBelle * Roberta Flack * Kate Bush * Carly Simon * Cher * Chaka Khan * Janet Jackson * Whitney Houston * Mariah Carey

ROCK AND ROLL BANDS WHOM CHICAGO BEAT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

The Kingston Trio * The Surfaris * The Zombies * The Kingsmen * The Troggs * The Turtles * Herman’s Hermits * Paul Revere & the Raiders * The Flying Burrito Brothers * The Belmonts * The Monkees * Jan & Dean * Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio * John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers * Big Brother and the Holding Company * Derek and the Dominos * The Spencer Davis Group * Blind Faith * Canned Heat * Humble Pie * Husker Du * Fairport Convention * The Mothers of Invention * Little Feat * Grand Funk Railroad * Tommy James and the Shondells * Three Dog Night * Steppenwolf * Thin Lizzy * Procol Harum * Roxy Music * The Blues Project * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Electric Flag * Tower of Power * The Guess Who * Bachman-Turner Overdrive * War * The Meters * The Neville Brothers * Kool & the Gang * The Commodores * New York Dolls * MC5 * The J. Geils Band * The Sir Douglas Quintet * Electric Light Orchestra * Emerson, Lake and Palmer * The Moody Blues * Yes * Jethro Tull * King Crimson * The Doobie Brothers * Blue Oyster Cult * Jefferson Starship * The Cars * Dire Straits * Motorhead * Iron Maiden * Judas Priest * Devo * Air Supply * America * Boston * Kansas * Journey * Styx * Toto * Foreigner * REO Speedwagon * Squeeze * Wings * The Silver Bullet Band * The Revolution * Kraftwerk * Chic * Joy Division * New Order * Sonic Youth * Miami Sound Machine * Wham! * Huey Lewis and the News * Bon Jovi * INXS * B-52’s * Duran Duran * Depeche Mode * Def Leppard * Tears For Fears * Los Lobos * The Cure * The Smiths * The Replacements * Nine Inch Nails * Soundgarden * Alice In Chains * Jane’s Addiction * The Black Crowes * Pixies * Smashing Pumpkins * Pearl Jam * Radiohead * Stone Temple Pilots * Dave Matthews Band * Rage Against The Machine * The Wallflowers * No Doubt

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02.6.16 @ 15:17pm


Chicago is the highest charting act on Billboard at this year's Rock Hall induction ceremony. It's their music that should be played in the all-star jam. They should also be the last act to be inducted at this year's ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.7.16 @ 06:57am


Ps. As of today it’s now down to 25 per cent chance of happening.

-Peter Cetera

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.7.16 @ 08:02am


Peter:

Your legacy amongst Chicago fans is on the line. The "pass" that you received 32 years ago could be rescinded if you decide to bail out of playing now.

Most people don't hold it against you that you left when you did. They will, however, consider your absence at the Induction Ceremony a selfish act, and one not befitting of a Hall or Fame inductee.

Consider this the next time you lay odds of your presence at the ceremony!

Posted by Gary on Sunday, 02.7.16 @ 17:45pm


Cetera is getting old, his voice can only handle 25 Or 6 To 4 in the key of E. I'm guessing the band is giving him that, but he also wants to add another song of his choosing to the ceremony. He has not stated which song it is though. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is and Saturday In The Park are most likely the other two songs, chosen by Chicago. I'm guessing Cetera wants to add Feelin' Stronger Everyday or If You Leave Me Now.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.7.16 @ 19:25pm


Kurt Schwarz
@RealLifeHusband
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@OakPressMarquee @GraffonMusic Rock Hall is up to its nasty old tricks again and Peter Cetera says he's out! petercetera.com
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealLifeHusband/status/696728921178505216?p=v

Posted by Roy on Monday, 02.8.16 @ 19:56pm


This really sucks! Peter Cetera will not perform at or attend the 2016 Rock Hall induction ceremony.

Peter Speaks:

February 8, 2016
I just sent this to the RnR hall of fame people. This is the the short high road nice version of what I really wanted to say. I’ll post that response at the appropriate time. Ciao,

Hello Alex and Joel!
Unfortunately, this scenario doesn’t work for me. I know we all did our best to make it happen, but I guess it’s just not meant to be.
Personally, I’m frustrated and tired of dealing with this and it’s time to move on. I have a life with two beautiful daughters and a solo career and its time to get back and give them all the full attention they deserve.
Thanks for all your help and consideration! Have a great show and please send any individual award I receive to the contact you have for me.
All the best, Peter Cetera

Posted by Roy on Monday, 02.8.16 @ 19:57pm


Kurt Schwarz
@RealLifeHusband
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@OakPressMarquee @GraffonMusic Rock Hall is up to its nasty old tricks again and Peter Cetera says he's out! petercetera.com
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealLifeHusband/status/696728921178505216?p=v

Kurt Schwarz @RealLifeHusband
@futurerocklgnds
Such a nefarious bunch, they seem to create drama intentionally year after year. No regard for the fans!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 02.8.16 @ 20:05pm


I'm waiting to read exactly what Peter Cetera was asking of the Rock Hall and Chicago, aside from 25 Or 6 To 4 in the key of E, the additional song, and Peter Cetera wanting to invite Donnie Dacus, Laudir De Oliveira, Chris Pinnick, and his brother Kenny Cetera to perform with the band at the ceremony. …And the Rock Hall's response.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 02.8.16 @ 20:28pm


http://ultimateclassicrock.com/peter-cetera-chicago-rock-hall/

Peter Cetera Backs Out of Chicago Rock Hall Reunion Again

By Nick DeRiso February 8, 2016 12:52 PM

Posted by Roy on Monday, 02.8.16 @ 22:01pm


Peter:

You OWED it to Your fans, and to the fans of Chicago, to show up and play. Did you ever consider that many fans have purchased tickets anticipating the one-night-stand that you advertised on your web site?

Regardless of the circumstances, you have made a Trump-like mistake by deciding to not show up. Your legacy amongst the fans that helped foster your "solo career" will be tarnished forever.

Does Anybody Really Know What Time It iIs? Yes-- it's time to jettison the respect we had for our favorite band's former lead singer!

Posted by Gary on Monday, 02.8.16 @ 22:14pm


http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6867425/peter-cetera-chicago-rock-roll-hall-fame-induction

Peter Cetera Officially Bows Out of Chicago Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction: 'It's Just Not Meant to Be'

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.9.16 @ 05:27am


http://radio.com/2016/02/08/peter-cetera-bows-out-of-chicago-reunion-again/

Peter Cetera Bows Out of Chicago Reunion — Again
It really *is* hard to say "I'm sorry."

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.9.16 @ 19:32pm



http://noisey.vice.com/en_ca/blog/26-musicians-too-rock-to-show-up-for-their-own-rock-n-roll-hall-of-fame-induction

Peter Speaks:

February 10, 2016
Make that 27! Happily moving on!
26 MUSICIANS TOO ROCK TO SHOW UP FOR THEIR OWN ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.9.16 @ 20:03pm



Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02.20.16 @ 08:46am


http://www.chicagotheband.com/chicagos-jason-scheff-interview/

Jason Scheff responds to his exclusion as a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee with Chicago

That’s a great question. When I was a kid growing up and first getting exposed to music, if you were to ask me as a kid here’s what’s going to happen: you are going to get an opportunity at 23-years old to join a legendary group at the peak of their commercial success, and you are going to be the guy that replaces the voice of the band at the time. You are going to sing on one of the biggest hits the band has ever had in “Will You Still Love Me” and you are going to write some pretty big songs for the band like “What Kind of Man Would I Be” and you are going to have this phenomenal run. Then all of a sudden, they’re going to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and they decide that they are going to go with that original lineup but they leave you off. Really, that’s the trade off. Your name won’t be on that list, but you’re going to be a part of it. Think about this for a second. Go back as a twelve-year old kid, or even as a twenty-two year old kid, the year before I joined the band and they said “Here’s how it’s going to be played out.” I think most of us would say “Where do I sign?”

All those years the band wasn’t in the Hall of Fame, I thought: ask so many (bands) that are in, that maybe were only together two, three or five years. Ask them if they could only choose one, you can be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or you can have a thirty-year career with all of those things that I mentioned. What’s your choice? I say give me my career. So it really doesn’t bother me. I’m just excited to go and be a part of this event. Keep the perspective about being a team player. It’s not about you, it’s about the band! That’s really a great question and I’m glad you asked.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02.20.16 @ 13:54pm


http://petercetera.com

Peter Speaks:

February 22, 2016
My final HoF decision!

Regretfully, I’ve decided NOT to participate in the 2016 HoF induction ceremonies. I appreciate the award and I want to thank all of you who voted and finally made it happen.

Many of you will be disappointed and that’s understandable. Quite frankly, I’m disappointed as well. There comes a time when you need to make a decision based on what’s best for you without worrying about the consequences and this is that time.

Every idea or suggestion I offered about how it could work musically was either rejected or changed by the shows producers. Together with the fact that while I sent those same emails to the group, the only reply I ever received back from them was a very snarky “Take a chill pill dude!” Whoa! Really?

At this point in my life, I don’t care to reintroduce the same negativity, misplaced egos, and petty jealousies I left behind years ago.

I’m very happy right where I am now, touring and playing my music with a band I love. You should all come and see us if you have the chance and please check my site for performance updates.

Peacefully moving on, Peter

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.21.16 @ 20:52pm


It's not about YOU, Peter! If you don't understand that, then you deserve to stay home. You've diminished your own legacy. How sad that is, especially for your longtime fans! Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? Yes--it's time to jettison our former favorite lead singer!

Posted by Gary on Tuesday, 02.23.16 @ 22:16pm


CHICAGO'S BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES WITH ROBERT LAMM ON LEAD VOCALS

04. 1970 - # 7 – Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
07. 1971 - # 7 – Beginnings
10. 1971 - # 49 – I’m A Man
11. 1972 - # 3 – Saturday In The Park
18. 1975 - # 13 – Harry Truman
26. 1978 - # 63 – Take Me Back To Chicago
31. 1980 - # 56 – Thunder And Lightning

CHICAGO'S BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES WITH TERRY KATH ON LEAD VOCALS

02. 1970 - # 9 – Make Me Smile
05. 1971 - # 20 – Free
08. 1971 - # 7 – Colour My World
10. 1971 - # 49 – I’m A Man
12. 1972 - # 24 – Dialogue (Part I & II)
17. 1974 - # 11 – Wishing You Were Here
20. 1975 - # 61 – Brand New Love Affair (Part I & II)
25. 1978 - # 44 – Little One

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 02.28.16 @ 19:30pm


Terry Kath's wife and their daughter will be at the 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony with Chicago.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 03.7.16 @ 19:29pm


Roy:

Please weigh in. What are your thoughts on Peter taking a pass? Legacy breaking?

Posted by Gary on Monday, 03.7.16 @ 23:03pm


Roy:

Please weigh in. What are your thoughts on Peter taking a pass? Legacy breaking?

Posted by Gary on Monday, 03.7.16 @ 23:03pm

Legacy breaking? I don’t know. Members of Van Halen and GNR also passed on their inductions.

Peter Cetera is a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee who will not attend his induction ceremony. His Rock and Roll Hall of Fame trophy will be mailed to him.

I would like to know which member of Chicago it was that told Peter Cetera to take a chill pill by email. Maybe it was Chicago’s manager Peter Schivarelli relaying the message.

Because of his old age, Peter Cetera wanted to perform 25 Or 6 To 4 in the key of E with Chicago, and the band said no. Peter Cetera could have just played bass with Chicago at the ceremony and let Jason Scheff sing, but Cetera has too big of an ego to do that. Cetera could have also attended the ceremony, collected his trophy, gave his speech, and not performed at all. Too big of an ego to do that either.

If Peter Cetera wasn’t going to perform with Chicago, he wanted to bring his own band to the ceremony and perform separately from Chicago. So there would have been a Chicago performance and a separate Peter Cetera performance, maybe with the Rock Hall’s house band.

I’m waiting for a Peter Cetera interview where he details exactly what he wanted to do at the Rock Hall induction ceremony, and which songs he wanted to perform on his own.

I am disappointed that Peter Cetera won’t be at the induction ceremony, but he is still my all-time favorite singer behind Elton John, and the only reason I’m giving the title to Elton John is because he is far more influential than Peter Cetera.

I will now go listen again to the first four albums Peter Cetera released after leaving Chicago: Solitude/Solitaire, One More Story, World Falling Down, and One Clear Voice (re-released as Faithfully on a different label; I have both). These albums are a hundred times better than the first four albums Chicago released after Cetera’s departure: 18, 19, Twenty 1, Night & Day, which are garbage. Stone of Sisyphus, Chicago XXX, and Chicago XXXVI are awesome though. I will then go back and listen to The Chicago Transit Authority through Chicago 17.

You may have been listening to Chicago since you were a child, but remember, the members of Chicago are not childhood friends. It's a business.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 03.13.16 @ 07:29am


Thanks for your response, Roy. You took Peter Cetera's "pass" far better than I did. I might be in the minority, but I believe Cetera's absence will be long remembered--to his detriment! The RHOF could easily have passed on Chicago's induction had the fans not voted for them in droves in the Fan Poll. The most ardent of those fans will be in attendance in Brooklyn. Slighting them is a poor business decision, AND shoes a lack of class!

Posted by Gary on Monday, 03.14.16 @ 22:31pm


That was a great response. As mean as this sounds, I mean it as a compliment... it's also the first time that Roy didn't sound like a bot either, but an actual person partaking in a conversation.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 03.14.16 @ 23:55pm


Best Songs From Chicago 18:

25 Or 6 To 4 (Remake), It's Alright, Niagara Falls, Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now, Will You Still Love Me

Worst Song From Chicago 18:

If She Would Have Been Faithful…

The Rest: Forever, Over And Over, One More Day, I Believe

Best Songs From Chicago 19:

Look Away, I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love, What Kind Of Man Would I Be, You're Not Alone, Runaround, Come In From The Night

Worst Songs From Chicago 19:

We Can Last Forever, Heart In Pieces

The Rest: I Stand Up, Victorious

Best Song From Chicago Twenty-1:

Somebody, Somewhere

Worst Song From Chicago Twenty-1

You Come To My Senses, Explain It To My Heart

Posted by Roy on Monday, 03.21.16 @ 21:43pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOBrJ0Y358Y

I felt so bad for Chicago when they had to perform You Come To My Senses on the Arsenio Hall Show in 1991.

You come to my senses
I have no defences

Worst Chicago song ever. That and If She Would Have Been Faithful…

John Denver - You Fill Up My Senses (Annie's Song)

Posted by Roy on Monday, 03.21.16 @ 21:56pm


http://ourrockandrollhalloffame71305.yuku.com/topic/1517/CHICAGO?page=71

So anything but the key of E for 25 Or 6 To 4 would be too high for Peter Cetera in his old age.

According to a source on another site, the key of E is too high for Chicago's horn section at their old ages, especially for Walter Parazaider who has serious heart problems. I wonder if Peter Cetera was given this reason in the conference calls with the Rock Hall.

I'm guessing it was James Pankow or Lee Loughnane who told Peter Cetera to take a chill pill by email.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 03.27.16 @ 08:16am



The Chicago Tribute Album

01. Beginnings by Eric Clapton
02. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? by Eric Clapton
03. Saturday In The Park by Elton John
04. South California Purples by Deep Purple
05. Feelin' Stronger Every Day by Fleetwood Mac
06. I've Been Searchin' So Long by The Eagles
07. Dialogue by Matchbox 20 and Kid Rock
08. Questions 67 & 68 by Billy Joel
09. 25 Or 6 To 4 by Metallica and Jeff Beck
10. Street Player by Maroon 5
11. No Tell Lover by Aaron Neville
12. Just You 'N Me by Justin Beiber
13. Old Days by Barenaked Ladies
14. Wishing You Were Here by Boz Scaggs and Kenny Loggins
15. If You Leave Me Now by NSYNC
16. Baby, What A Big Surprise by the Backstreet Boys
17. Hard Habit To Break by Daryl Hall & John Oates
18. Hard To Say I'm Sorry by Boyz II Men

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 03.27.16 @ 20:13pm


CHICAGO: THE SCATTERED SONGS

01. 1985: Good For Nothing (USA For Africa: We Are The World)
02. 1990: Hearts In Trouble (Days Of Thunder Soundtrack)
03. 1997: Here In My Heart (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1997)
04. 1997: The Only One (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1997) with Lenny Kravitz
05. 1998: All Roads Lead To You (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1998 Volume II)
06. 1998: Show Me A Sign (The Heart Of Chicago 1967-1998 Volume II)
07. 1998: Child's Prayer (Chicago 25: The Christmas Album)
08. 1999: Back To You (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert)
09. 1999: If I Should Lose You (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert)
10. 1999: Your Love Keeps Lifting Me (Higher And Higher) (Chicago XXVI: Live in Concert) with Michael McDonald
11. 2003: Bethlehem (Chicago Christmas: What's It Gonna Be Santa?)
12. 2011: Rockin' And Rollin' On Christmas Day (Chicago XXXIII: O Christmas Three)

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.1.16 @ 04:44am


http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a40587/2016-rock-hall-inductees/

Chicago

"Saturday in the Park," "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" and "Old Days" are classic pop songs. (Not rock 'n' roll songs, incidentally; pop songs.) They are trained musicians. They have been around forever and are still touring. But they also gave us the solo career of Peter Cetera, a Margaret Keane big-eye painting that came to life and whined at you. I know there are no hard rules when it comes to the Hall of Fame, that it's a private organization that can do its business however it wants, but how about this: If a member of your band has gone on to record a duet with Amy Grant, you are disqualified from induction.

Late-career embarrassment: The video for their 1984 single "Stay The Night," in which Peter Cetera tries to be an action hero and ends up looking like Ellen DeGeneres' stunt double.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.5.16 @ 05:36am


Does Anybody Realize How Bad These Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees Really Are?

Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.5.16 @ 05:52am


http://www.chicagotheband.com/chicagos-robert-lamm-talks-rock-hall-peter-cetera/

Chicago’s Robert Lamm Talks About Rock Hall, Peter Cetera and More

One point of excitement for fans was the fact that it looked like Peter Cetera might take the stage with you guys at the induction ceremonies to perform. Now it looks like that’s not going to happen. What was it really that went down behind the scenes that brought things to that conclusion?

In a nutshell — and I really don’t want to talk too much about it — I would say that Peter didn’t understand that this was a band honor, that it was the band Chicago being inducted. He was proposing to bring his band to play when he sang a Chicago song. So you know, it got very strange. But I think in a nutshell, he didn’t or doesn’t get that it’s a band thing — it’s not about any particular guy.

If I’m correct, you’ve had some contact with Peter in recent years, haven’t you?

Oh, yeah.

It seemed like there was a slight amount of water that had gone under the bridge after all of these years.

Yeah, you know, I was very surprised at his attitude.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.5.16 @ 20:44pm


25 Or 6 To 4 will be played in the All-Star jam! This could mean Chicago will be the last induction of the night.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.6.16 @ 23:30pm


[img}https://rockhall.com/media/assets/images/originals/4e5/488/d500d5.jpg[/img]

Be Honest: Can You Sing all the Words to "Saturday in the Park?"
Robert Lamm penned the lyrics to Chicago's highest-charting single in 1972. While Chicagoans – specifically, Cubs fans – are all-too familiar with the tune given its regular rotation during Saturday baseball games at Chicago’s Wrigley Field, visitors to the Hall of Fame will get a first-hand look at Lamm's musical baby coming to life via his handwritten lyrics. Warning: you'll be humming "Saturday in the Park" all day (if you're not already).

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 05:50am


Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 05:51am


Back in January I sent Rob Thomas my induction speech for Chicago on facebook and told him to use it. I got no response. I also told him to go to the induction ceremony in a Chicago Blackhawks jersey and to bring the Stanley Cup with him on stage. I gave him the contact info for the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto. Let's see if Rob Thomas will give the induction speech for Chicago while wearing a Chicago Blackhawks jersey and with the Stanley Cup on stage. I sent the same message to Chicago management. Rob Thomas will walk out on stage carrying the Stanley Cup over his head. Then he will congratulate the Chicago Blackhawks on their 2010, 2013, & 2015 Stanley Cup championships and then give his Rock and.Roll Hall of Fame induction speech for Chicago.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 13:03pm


The Stanley Cup might be on hand tomorrow at the Barclays Centre in New York as Rob Thomas gives the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction speech for Chicago and mentions the connections to Barack Obama and the Chicago Blackhawks.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 14:22pm


http://wcbsfm.cbslocal.com/2016/04/07/robert-lamm-wont-stop-peter-cetera-from-joining-chicago-during-rock-hall-induction/

Robert Lamm Won’t Stop Peter Cetera From Joining Chicago During Rock Hall Induction

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 19:44pm


The Stanley Cup might be on hand tomorrow at the Barclays Center in New York as Rob Thomas gives his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction speech for Chicago and mentions Chicago's connections to Barack Obama and the Chicago Blackhawks.

Back in January I sent Rob Thomas my induction speech for Chicago on facebook and told him to use it. I got no response. I also told him to go to the induction ceremony in a Chicago Blackhawks jersey and to bring the Stanley Cup with him on stage. I gave him the contact info for the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto. They will bring the Stanley Cup to the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony. Let's see if Rob Thomas will give the induction speech for Chicago while wearing a Chicago Blackhawks jersey and with the Stanley Cup on stage. I sent the same message to Chicago management. Rob Thomas will walk out on stage carrying the Stanley Cup over his head. Then he will congratulate the Chicago Blackhawks on their 2010, 2013, and 2015 Stanley Cup championships, express his hopes that they win again in 2016, and then give his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction speech for Chicago. His speech will end as follows:

Now I am going to present you with information that must be stated! According to Billboard chart statistics, Chicago is second only to the Beach Boys as the most successful American Rock and Roll band of all time, in terms of both albums and singles. The number one Billboard charting Rock and Roll band of the 1970s was Chicago! The Top 4 charting Rock And Roll bands of all-time on both, the Billboard 200 Albums Chart, and the Billboard 100 Singles Chart just happen to be the same four bands on both lists, and this is how the lists read: Number 1 - The Beatles! Number 2 - The Rolling Stones! Number 3 - The Beach Boys! And at number 4, (all together now) Chicago! And in case you are wondering who's at number 5, it's The Bee Gees! And that says it all right there folks! And up until tonight, Chicago was the only band on those lists who had not been inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame yet! Also, of the 15 acts who were nominated for the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Chicago was the best-selling and highest Billboard charting act on the nominees list. So it makes sense that Chicago won the official 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame online fan poll. Chicago fans came out in full force and made sure that Chicago would finish at number one! They voted early and they voted often, as they were told to do!

And you know what's funny? First, a Chicago politician named Barack Obama is elected the first black President of the United States of America in 2008. Then, in 2010, the National Hockey League's Chicago Blackhawks win their fourth Stanley Cup in franchise history, but their first Stanley Cup since 1961, the year of Barack Obama's birth. Then in 2013 the Chicago Blackhawks win their fifth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their second during the Barack Obama presidency. Then in 2015 the Chicago Blackhawks win their sixth Stanley Cup in franchise history and their third during the Barack Obama presidency. Then, what do you know, Chicago, the band, is finally inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016, during the Barack Obama presidency, but Chicago the band isn't black, but they did play Rock and Roll, which stems from the blues, which is the music of black people as Jann Wenner said at the 2008 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony in reference to the induction of Little Walter. Walter is also the name of Chicago's saxophone, clarinet and flute player (Walter Parazaider that is). Well, you know what they say, things always happen in threes, and in this case it's Barack Obama, the Chicago Blackhawks, and Chicago the band. But wait, there's more! The next president of the United States of America, to be elected this year, in November 2016, could either be Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders graduated in 1964 from the University of Chicago, and Hillary Clinton was born in Chicago in 1947, the same year that Chicago's trombone player James Pankow was born. Hillary Clinton is married to Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States of America. Bill Clinton's favorite band is Chicago, and Bill Clinton is a saxophone player like Chicago's Walter Parazaider. And now I am going to make a prediction. I predict that this coming June, the Chicago Blackhawks will win their seventh Stanley Cup in franchise history and their fourth Stanley Cup during the Barack Obama presidency. And all I have left to say is that it's about fckng time Chicago got inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame because this is Chicago mthrfckrs! This isn't Boston or Kansas, if you know what I mean! So, without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, CHICAGO!!!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 20:32pm


I will try to find out if Bill Clinton and/or Barack Obama are attending the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony tomorrow. Maybe Hillary and Michelle too!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 21:14pm





Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 22:23pm


Hey Peter:

I have a good title for your next big single--"Coward's Way Out."

Posted by Gary on Thursday, 04.7.16 @ 23:49pm


Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is was one of the songs Rob Thomas was rehearsing with Chicago.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.16 @ 04:07am


http://www.robthomasmusic.com/rock-roll-hall-of-fame-simulcast-rob-thomas-special-guest/

ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME SIMULCAST – ROB THOMAS SPECIAL GUEST

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.16 @ 04:17am



https://mobile.twitter.com/JulietHuddyTV/media/grid?idx=0

Another Chicago photo in the background

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.16 @ 04:28am


THE TOP 5 CHARTING ROCK AND ROLL BANDS OF ALL-TIME ON BOTH, THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART AND THE BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES CHART

01. The Beatles
02. The Rolling Stones
03. The Beach Boys
04. The Bee Gees
05. Chicago

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. 1988: The Beatles
02. 1988: The Beach Boys
03. 1989: The Rolling Stones
04. 1997: The Bee Gees
05. 2016: Chicago

THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)

THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee

Walter Parazaider is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Lee Loughnane is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
James Pankow is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Robert Lamm is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Terry Kath is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Peter Cetera is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Danny Seraphine is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee

Walter Parazaider is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Lee Loughnane is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
James Pankow is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Robert Lamm is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Terry Kath is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Peter Cetera is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Danny Seraphine is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.16 @ 21:34pm


THE TOP 5 CHARTING ROCK AND ROLL BANDS OF ALL-TIME ON BOTH, THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART AND THE BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES CHART

01. The Beatles
02. The Rolling Stones
03. The Beach Boys
04. Chicago
05. The Bee Gees

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

01. 1988: The Beatles
02. 1988: The Beach Boys
03. 1989: The Rolling Stones
04. 1997: The Bee Gees
05. 2016: Chicago

THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago

01. Walter Parazaider (1967-Present: saxophone; clarinet; flute; songwriter)
02. Lee Loughnane (1967-Present: vocals; trumpet; flugelhorn; songwriter)
03. James Pankow (1967-Present: vocals; trombone; songwriter)
04. Robert Lamm (1967-Present: vocals; piano; keyboards; songwriter)
05. Terry Kath (1967-1978: vocals; guitar; songwriter)
06. Peter Cetera (1967-1985: vocals; bass guitar; songwriter)
07. Danny Seraphine (1967-1990: drums; songwriter)

THE 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

Chicago is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee

Walter Parazaider is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Lee Loughnane is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
James Pankow is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Robert Lamm is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Terry Kath is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Peter Cetera is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee
Danny Seraphine is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductee

Walter Parazaider is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Lee Loughnane is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
James Pankow is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Robert Lamm is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Terry Kath is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Peter Cetera is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer
Danny Seraphine is a Rock And Roll Hall Of Famer

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.16 @ 22:12pm


https://www.periscope.tv/w/1jMJgMXgzgWKL

Chicago's Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction on Periscope

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.16 @ 22:29pm


Chicago performed Saturday In The Park, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?, and 25 Or 6 To 4, in that order.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.16 @ 22:37pm


Rob Thomas didn't mention Barack Obama or the Chicago Blackhawks during his induction speech for Chicago, and the Stanley Cup didn't appear. His speech was very short.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.8.16 @ 23:42pm


All of Chicago's album covers were shown on the screens at the back of the stage during the speeches and the performances.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 07:36am


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/chicagos-robert-lamm-talks-peter-cetera-absence-at-rock-hall-20160409#ixzz45KSpgtXj

Chicago's Robert Lamm Talks Peter Cetera Absence at Rock Hall

"If Peter didn't want to play or couldn't play or couldn't sing or whatever, at least he could have stood with us," co-founder says

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 07:48am


What if Robert Lamm hadn't spoken for Peter Cetera? Would Peter Cetera have attended?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 07:52am


http://radio.com/2016/04/08/rock-hall-induction-ceremony-2016-wrap-up-cheap-trick-n-w-a-and-more/?cid=twitter_Radiodotcom

Rob Thomas took the stage to speak about Chicago. He called their late leader Terry Kath “One of the best and most underrated guitarists of all time.”

“If you’re going to take the name of one of America’s great cradles of rock, blues, jazz and soul, you’ve got to be a great band. This is not a soft rock band, Chicago was a rock and roll band with horns!”

“Let’s talk about the kind of stones that these guys have. Their first album was a double album. Balls of steel! Second album: double album. Third album: double album! The titles, Chicago, Chicago II, Chicago III: f—ing fearless!”

“People say a lot of things about Chicago, and ‘badass’ is generally not one of them. But when they met Jimi Hendrix he said that their guitarist is better than him. That’s badass. So if you say Chicago is your mom’s band, then I want to party with your mom!”

Keyboardist/singer Robert Lamm said, “I’d like to first thank the audiences that come to see us year after year.” He thanked all the current and former members of the band, including bassist/singer Peter Cetera, who famously decided not to attend.

Lee Loughnane said, “I’m blessed with three things: music my trumpet and the guys in this band,” and later joked, “I want to thank my ex-wives for making sure I have to keep working!”

Former drummer Danny Seraphane introduced himself, “I’m Danny f—in’ Seraphine! I’m gonna get to play with my band for the first time in a long time. I wanna tell you a story about a band of brothers. 1968 we’re at a Dodger game, they were playing the Cubs, Peter gets in a fight with a marine — bad idea — he got his jaw broken. Ten days later he was on the road. When Rob [Thomas just] said we were badass… yeah we were a badass band!” He also noted that Lamm broke his leg in a basketball game — “white men can’t dunk, Robert!” — the band missed one gig and then the band hit the road for another six weeks.

Mentioning the band’s late guitarist Terry Kath, he said, “I miss him every day.” Soon the teleprompter flashed a “PLEASE WRAP UP” message. “‘Please wrap it up!’ F— you! I’ve been waiting 25 years for this!”

Finally, Kath’s daughter Michelle said of her father, “He would be beyond honored and extremely excited.”

The band, with Danny “f—in'” Seraphine, played “Saturday in the Park,” and were joined by Rob Thomas for “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is.” They finished with “25 or 6 to 4.” Like Deep Purple and the Steve Miller Band, the current lineup of Chicago does the band’s legacy proud.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 08:39am


https://www.periscope.tv/w/1jMJgMXgzgWKL

CHICAGO LIVE at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Ceremony - Brooklyn, NY.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 09:11am


Feelin' Stronger Everyday was the song that played at the Rock Hall induction ceremony as Chicago walked up to the stage to collect their trophies and give their speeches.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 09:15am


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/n-w-a-cheap-trick-deep-purple-enter-rock-hall-at-hit-packed-ceremony-20160409#ixzz45L7Z9L7N

Matchbox 20's Rob Thomas then stepped up to the podium to induct Chicago, making a passionate argument that they've been unfairly maligned and overlooked over the years. "People say a lot of things about Chicago," he says. "And I know that 'badass dudes' is not one of them. But remember this: when Jimi Hendrix met them for the first time he told them their horn section sounded like one set of lungs and that their guitar player Terry [Kath] was better than him. That, kids, is badass. If you think Chicago is your mom's band, then I want to party with your mom."

Former Chicago bassist and lead singer Peter Cetera stayed home, partially due to a dispute over what key they'd perform the songs in, but the rest of the classic lineup was in the house. They all gave gracious speeches, but it was former drummer Danny Seraphine - who was booted from the group back in 1990 - that delivered the best lines. "We lived together, as most bands do, we cried together, we fought together, we fcked together," he said. "'Please wrap it up?' Scrw you. I’ve waited 25 fcking years for this!"

In the first reunion of the night, Seraphine took his old spot behind the drum kit and helped the band play "Saturday in the Park," "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" and its famous answer song "25 or 6 to 4." Even Chicago's haters have to recognize the power of that last tune, and as unlikely a band as Green Day liked it so much they borrowed generously from it for "Brain Stew." But this is a Cetara song, and it would have been a truly stellar moment had he played it with his old buddies one last time. This was an opportunity for him to really step back into the spotlight and create something magical, and the opportunity was squandered.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 10:37am


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/15-best-moments-at-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-2016-induction-20160409/chicagos-former-drummer-grabs-the-spotlight-20160409

Chicago's Former Drummer Grabs the Spotlight

15 Best Moments at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2016 Induction

# 10

In his induction speech, Rob Thomas did everything possible to assure the crowd that Chicago were much cooler than most people thought. "If you think Chicago is your mom's band," he said, "then I want to party with your mom!" But it wasn't until former Chicago drummer Danny Seraphine stepped up to the microphone that his point was proven: "We lived together, as most bands do, we cried together, we fought together, we fckd together," he said. "'Please wrap it up?' Scrw you. I've waited 25 fckng years for this!" By the end even his bandmates were urging him to stop talking, but the crowd loved it, as did Kid Rock. "The drummer for Chicago turns out to be a fckng bdss!" he said before inducting Cheap Trick.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 12:45pm


http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7326479/rock-roll-hall-of-fame-2016-induction-10-moments

Chicago's Incredible, Explicit Acceptance Speech

Who would have thought that soft rock kings Chicago would deliver the more expletive-filled acceptance speech of the night? Aside from a healthy number of f-bombs used as adjectives, drummer Danny Seraphine spoke of how the group "lived together, cried together, fought together and f---ed together." Then, as if he had shocked even himself, he added, "Did I really say that?" Chicago, incidentally, was absolutely blistering and instrumentally astounding while delivering their early hit "25 or 6 to 4," reminding people they can tear up a stage just as well as sing a radio-friendly ballad. During his introduction to them, Rob Thomas noted that many critics see Chicago as a "mom's band" these days, but added, "If your mom listens to Chicago, I want to party with your mom."

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.9.16 @ 14:01pm


Hey Kenny Cetera:

If your brother still has such a great voice, why did he find the need to dictate to the rest of Chicago the key in which they would be singing?

We're all glad you both took a pass, and with your absence consider you the "brothers with no class!"

Posted by Gary on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 02:45am


Tom Petersson joked at the ceremony that Cheap Trick thought about adding a keyboard player to the band, but no one wanted to be the person sitting in the middle seat of a car. I don't know how Chicago did it. They must have used to cars, he said.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 06:43am


Rob Thomas made no mention of Chicago's status on the Billboard Charts as the number two American band behind the Beach Boys, and number four behind the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and the Beach Boys.

At one point during the speech Rob Thomas referred to CTA as Chicago I. That just didn't sound right.

I wonder if the Rock Hall gave any say to Chicago as to whether or not Peter Cetera could perform separately at ceremony.

I wish Chicago's induction ceremony was at the Waldorf-Astoria.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 06:54am


Chicago is inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame…

28 years after the Beatles were inducted
28 years after the Beach Boys were inducted
27 years after the Rolling Stones were inducted
22 years after Elton John was inducted
19 years after the Bee Gees were inducted
19 years after the Jackson Five were inducted
15 years after Michael Jackson was inducted
6 years after Madonna was inducted
6 years after Leonard Cohen was inducted

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 09:30am


Chicago is inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame…

28 years after the Beatles were inducted
28 years after the Beach Boys were inducted
27 years after the Rolling Stones were inducted
22 years after Elton John was inducted
19 years after the Bee Gees were inducted
19 years after the Jackson Five were inducted
15 years after Michael Jackson was inducted
8 years after Madonna was inducted
8 years after Leonard Cohen was inducted

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 09:34am


The Rob Thomas Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Speech For Chicago

Saturday In The Park, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, If You Leave Me Now, 25 Or 6 To 4, Feelin' Stronger Every Day, Wishing You Were Here…

I'm going to tell you a story. These songs are the sound of a city, they're the sounds of a melting pot, they're the sounds of unity, and they're the sounds of Chicago. In 1967 a group of musicians came together, and they were weaving their city's diverse musical influences into one bold, beautiful sound. It was a sound that was built on a tight R&B beat, beefed up with big-band horns and jolted with riffs from Terry Kath, who is one of the best and most underrated guitar players of all-time.

Just like everybody else they were seeing the Vietnam War on television. They were seeing the national guard on the streets of Chicago. They were seeing the marches in the south. They were being discriminated against because of their long hair. They wanted a revolution too, but all of their unrest came through the music and the lyrics: diverse, harmonious, powerful. So, Terry Kath, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, Robert Lamm, and Peter Cetera formed the Chicago Transit Authority, and then with a [shrewd]? bit of editing, [lightened]? it down to Chicago.

Now if you're going to take the name of one of America's great cradles of jazz, blues, rock and soul, you got to be more than just another rock band, and this is not a soft-rock band, this is not a jazz band. Chicago is a bonafide rock and roll band with horns. Big, bold horns that were [pulping]? fists, hitting harder than any drum line ever could.

So lets talk about the kind of stones that these guys have. Their first album was a double album. That my friends is balls of steal. Second album, double album. Third album, also a double album. Three double albums in a row to start their career. And what did they call those albums?: Chicago I, Chicago II, Chicago III. Fckng fearless! They sold more than 100 million records. 21 top ten singles, 5 consecutive number one albums, 11 number one singles, and 5 gold singles. An incredible 25 of their incredible 34 albums have been certified platinum, and the band has a total of 47 gold and platinum awards.

Now people say a lot of things about Chicago, and I know that bass-ass is generally not one of them. But just remember this, when Jimi Hendrix met them the first time, he told them that their horn section sounded like one set of lungs, and that their guitar player Terry was better than him. That kids is bad-ass! So if you think that Chicago is your mom's band, then man I want to party with your mom. These guys are legends. They are true musicians, and they are a bass-ass rock band with horns. It is my honor to finally induct Terry Kath, Peter Cetera, Danny Seraphine, Walter Parazaider, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, and Robert Lamm, Chicago into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 16:47pm


The Rob Thomas Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Speech For Chicago

Saturday In The Park, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, If You Leave Me Now, 25 Or 6 To 4, Feelin' Stronger Every Day, Wishing You Were Here…

I'm going to tell you a story. These songs are the sound of a city, they're the sounds of a melting pot, they're the sounds of unity, and they're the sounds of Chicago. In 1967 a group of musicians came together, and they were weaving their city's diverse musical influences into one bold, beautiful sound. It was a sound that was built on a tight R&B beat, beefed up with big-band horns and jolted with riffs from Terry Kath, who is one of the best and most underrated guitar players of all-time.

Just like everybody else they were seeing the Vietnam War on television. They were seeing the national guard on the streets of Chicago. They were seeing the marches in the south. They were being discriminated against because of their long hair. They wanted a revolution too, but all of their unrest came through the music and the lyrics: diverse, harmonious, powerful. So, Terry Kath, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, Robert Lamm, and Peter Cetera formed the Chicago Transit Authority, and then with a [shrewd]? bit of editing, [lightened]? it down to Chicago.

Now if you're going to take the name of one of America's great cradles of jazz, blues, rock and soul, you got to be more than just another rock band, and this is not a soft-rock band, this is not a jazz band. Chicago is a bonafide rock and roll band with horns. Big, bold horns that were [pulping]? fists, hitting harder than any drum line ever could.

So lets talk about the kind of stones that these guys have. Their first album was a double album. That my friends is balls of steal. Second album, double album. Third album, also a double album. Three double albums in a row to start their career. And what did they call those albums?: Chicago I, Chicago II, Chicago III. Fckng fearless! They sold more than 100 million records. 21 top ten singles, 5 consecutive number one albums, 11 number one singles, and 5 gold singles. An incredible 25 of their incredible 34 albums have been certified platinum, and the band has a total of 47 gold and platinum awards.

Now people say a lot of things about Chicago, and I know that bad-ass is generally not one of them. But just remember this, when Jimi Hendrix met them the first time, he told them that their horn section sounded like one set of lungs, and that their guitar player Terry was better than him. That kids is bad-ass! So if you think that Chicago is your mom's band, then man I want to party with your mom. These guys are legends. They are true musicians, and they are a bass-ass rock band with horns. It is my honor to finally induct Terry Kath, Peter Cetera, Danny Seraphine, Walter Parazaider, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, and Robert Lamm, Chicago into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 17:24pm


The Rob Thomas Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Speech For Chicago

Saturday In The Park, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, If You Leave Me Now, 25 Or 6 To 4, Feelin' Stronger Every Day, Wishing You Were Here…

I'm going to tell you a story. These songs are the sound of a city, they're the sounds of a melting pot, they're the sounds of unity, and they're the sounds of Chicago. In 1967 a group of musicians came together, and they were weaving their city's diverse musical influences into one bold, beautiful sound. It was a sound that was built on a tight R&B beat, beefed up with big-band horns and jolted with riffs from Terry Kath, who is one of the best and most underrated guitar players of all-time.

Just like everybody else they were seeing the Vietnam War on television. They were seeing the national guard on the streets of Chicago. They were seeing the marches in the south. They were being discriminated against because of their long hair. They wanted a revolution too, but all of their unrest came through the music and the lyrics: diverse, harmonious, powerful. So, Terry Kath, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, Robert Lamm, and Peter Cetera formed the Chicago Transit Authority, and then with a [shrewd]? bit of editing, [lightened]? it down to Chicago.

Now if you're going to take the name of one of America's great cradles of jazz, blues, rock and soul, you got to be more than just another rock band, and this is not a soft-rock band, this is not a jazz band. Chicago is a bonafide rock and roll band with horns. Big, bold horns that were [pulping]? fists, hitting harder than any drum line ever could.

So lets talk about the kind of stones that these guys have. Their first album was a double album. That my friends is balls of steal. Second album, double album. Third album, also a double album. Three double albums in a row to start their career. And what did they call those albums?: Chicago I, Chicago II, Chicago III. Fckng fearless! They sold more than 100 million records. 21 top ten singles, 5 consecutive number one albums, 11 number one singles, and 5 gold singles. An incredible 25 of their incredible 34 albums have been certified platinum, and the band has a total of 47 gold and platinum awards.

Now people say a lot of things about Chicago, and I know that bad-ass is generally not one of them. But just remember this, when Jimi Hendrix met them the first time, he told them that their horn section sounded like one set of lungs, and that their guitar player Terry was better than him. That kids is bad-ass! So if you think that Chicago is your mom's band, then man I want to party with your mom. These guys are legends. They are true musicians, and they are a bad-ass rock band with horns. It is my honor to finally induct Terry Kath, Peter Cetera, Danny Seraphine, Walter Parazaider, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, and Robert Lamm, Chicago into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 17:33pm


Black Keys on First Rock Hall Ceremony: 'It's Like a Viagra Commercial'

Dan Auerbach and Patrick Carney talk Steve Miller induction, Chubby Checker's Rock Hall grievance and their own chances of getting in

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/black-keys-on-first-rock-hall-ceremony-its-like-a-viagra-commercial-20160408#ixzz45SbMAkAO

Have you run into anyone else tonight?
Carney: We met, like, nine of the members of Chicago so far.

What was that like?
Auerbach: What's your favorite Chicago album? III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX? You like the first one?

There's some wild stuff on there.
Auerbach: That's what everybody says. ... "I like the early stuff."

There's wild guitar improv on that stuff. Jim O'Rourke is a big fan. And he played it for Thurston Moore and didn't tell him who it was. ... It totally blew Thurston Moore's mind.
Auerbach: That's awesome. I love that.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 17:36pm


Will winning the official fan poll and being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame finally get Rolling Stone magazine to do a Special Collectors Edition issue on Chicago? If not the band on the front cover, then just the band's logo all over the front cover, keeping in theme with the band's album covers.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.10.16 @ 21:10pm


I'm waiting for Peter Cetera to post a picture of himself holding his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame trophy.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.11.16 @ 05:53am


Now the Chicago Blackhawks have to win the Stanley in June.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.11.16 @ 13:54pm


No, they don't. Go Stars!

Posted by dmg on Monday, 04.11.16 @ 15:11pm


I can't speak to it as the Bruins missed the playoffs again.

Posted by Tom H. on Monday, 04.11.16 @ 15:48pm


Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.11.16 @ 22:22pm


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/flashback-chicago-play-a-smoldering-25-or-6-to-4-in-1970-20160412#ixzz45erea8ea

Flashback: Chicago Play a Smoldering '25 or 6 to 4' in 1970

Check out band back when guitarist Terry Kath was blowing Jimi Hendrix's mind

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 04.12.16 @ 20:01pm


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/flashback-peter-cetera-honors-the-glory-of-karate-kids-love-20160414#ixzz45qa7Jyeb

Flashback: Peter Cetera Honors the 'Glory' of Karate Kid's Love
Former Chicago frontman rode 1986 single "The Glory of Love" to top of charts and Academy Awards
By Andy Greene April 14, 2016

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.14.16 @ 19:39pm


I'm still obsessing Chicago's induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and analyzing what each one of them said at the ceremony. I'm going to post the Rock Hall acceptance speech for each member of Chicago later. Then I'm going to give my final thoughts on Chicago. In the meantime, I'm getting the feeling that Peter Cetera is a Republican.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 04.15.16 @ 20:14pm


Chicago wanted Brian Wilson or Philip Bailey to induct them.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.16.16 @ 06:45am


LEE LOUGHNANE HOLDING TERRY KATH'S ROCK HALL TROPHY

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 04.17.16 @ 08:12am


If Peter Cetera had attended and performed at the ceremony, Chicago was going to be the headliner, the last act to perform at the ceremony, because of their status on the billboard charts compared to the other acts being inducted this year.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.18.16 @ 06:02am



According to Danny Seraphine, he and Peter Cetera spoke to each other after it was announced that Chicago was going to be inducted. Peter Cetera told Danny Seraphine that he was going to attend the induction ceremony, but he wasn't going to perform at all. Then Peter Cetera and Robert Lamm communicated. All Peter Cetera said was he was going to be at the ceremony. Robert Lamm took that as meaning Peter Cetera was going to perform with Chicago, and Lamm tells that to the media, and Cetera gets pssd off. This doesn't make sense. Why would Peter Cetera be specific, telling Danny Seraphine that he will attend the ceremony, and he won't perform, but not say those exact same words to Robert Lamm? I'm wondering now if Robert Lamm was purposly trying to pss off Peter Cetera.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.20.16 @ 21:16pm


Robert Lamm to speak on the same show tomorrow.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.20.16 @ 21:34pm


Robert Lamm this Friday or next Friday

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.20.16 @ 21:47pm


THE NUMBER OF TIMES EACH MEMBER OF CHICAGO IS MENTIONED IN THEIR ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BIOGRAPHY

Peter Cetera - 8 Times
Terry Kath - 7 Times
Danny Seraphine - 6 Times
James Pankow - 5 Times
Robert Lamm - 4 Times
Walter Parazaider - 3 Times
Lee Loughnane - 3 Times
Bill Champlin - 2 Times
Laudir De Oliveira - 1 Time
Jason Scheff - 1 Time
Tris Imboden - 1 Time
Keith Howland - 1 Time
Donnie Dacus - 0 Times
Chris Pinnick - 0 Times
DaWayne Bailey - 0 Times

ARTISTS MENTIONED IN CHICAGO’S ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BIOGRAPHY

The Beatles * The Big Thing * The Exceptions * The Buckinghams * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Electric Flag * Sons Of Champlin * Chad and Jeremy * Jimi Hendrix * Glenn Miller * Duke Ellington * Benny Goodman * Dick Clark * James William Guercio * Phil Ramone * Tom Dowd * David Foster * Nick Fasciano

ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES MENTIONED IN CHICAGO’S BIOGRAPHY

The Beatles * Jimi Hendrix * Dick Clark * Tom Dowd

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.21.16 @ 22:45pm


James Guercio - 7 Times
David Foster - 3 Times
Blood, Sweat & Tears - 3 Times
The Beatles - 2 Times
Jimi Hendrix - 2 Times

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.21.16 @ 23:06pm


https://rockhall.com/inductees/chicago/bio/

THE OFFICIAL 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BIOGRAPHY FOR CHICAGO

Inductees: Peter Cetera, Terry Kath, Robert Lamm, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine

Fusing jazz and rock together in a time when the Beatles were still crashing onto the American shores and psychedelic rock was taking over the basements of teenagers; Chicago Transit Authority broke onto the scene unapologetically in 1969 with their self-titled double album, Chicago Transit Authority. A brazen mix of soulful rock, pop and jazz coupled with protester’s chants from the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention; the album received critical acclaim and later produced the classic singles “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?” and “Beginnings.” As the band began touring, under pressure from the city of Chicago, they shortened their name to simply, Chicago, and later released their second self-titled album, Chicago, in 1970. The center track, “Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon,” is a seven-part, 13-minute suite of pure melodic perfection composed by James Pankow who merged his love of classical, long song styles with Chicago’s signature sound. It yielded two unexpected singles “Make Me Smile” and “Colour My World” that quickly took the charts by storm reaching the Top Ten on Billboard’s Hot 100. From their inception through to the late 1970’s, Chicago mastered the art of making melodic jazz tinged rock with a keen pop sensibility. The group had a long string of jazz-rock mega hits including: “Make Me Smile,” “Saturday In The Park,” “25 Or 6 To 4,” “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day,” “If You Leave Me Now” and many others. Chicago’s early lineup created such an unmistakable sound and their inclusion into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is not only well-deserved, but an honor that has been overlooked. With over 21 Top 10 singles, 5 consecutive Number One albums, 11 Number One singles – fans that stretch across the globe and countless bands that have followed in their wake, Chicago’s legacy is unquestionable.

Selected discography: “Does Anyone Really Know What Time It Is?,” Chicago Transit Authority (1969) • “Make Me Smile,” “25 Or 6 To 4,” Chicago (1970) • “Saturday In The Park,” Chicago V (1972) • “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day,” “Just You ‘N’ Me,” Chicago VI (1973) • “Old Days,” Chicago VIII (1975) • “If You Leave Me Now,” Chicago X (1976) • “Baby What A Big Surprise,” Chicago XI (1977)

Fusing jazz and rock together in a time when the Beatles were still crashing onto the American shores and psychedelic rock was taking over the basements of teenagers; Chicago Transit Authority broke onto the scene unapologetically in 1969 with their self-titled double album, Chicago Transit Authority. A brazen mix of soulful rock, pop and jazz coupled with protester’s chants from the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention; the album received critical acclaim and later produced the classic singles “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?” and “Beginnings.” As the band began touring, under pressure from the city of Chicago, they shortened their name to simply, Chicago, and later released their second self-titled album, Chicago, in 1970. The center track, “Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon,” is a seven-part, 13-minute suite of pure melodic perfection composed by James Pankow who merged his love of classical, long song styles with Chicago’s signature sound. It yielded two unexpected singles “Make Me Smile” and “Colour My World” that quickly took the charts by storm reaching the Top 10 on Billboard’s Hot 100. From their inception through to the late 1970’s, Chicago mastered the art of making melodic jazz tinged rock with a keen pop sensibility. The group had a long string of jazz-rock mega hits including: “Make Me Smile,” “Saturday In The Park,” “25 Or 6 To 4,” “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day,” “If You Leave Me Now” and many others. Chicago’s early lineup created such an unmistakable sound. With over 21 Top 10 singles, five consecutive Number One albums, 11 Number One singles, fans that stretch across the globe and countless bands that have followed in their wake, Chicago’s legacy is unquestionable.

Chicago stands as one of America’s most successful rock bands of any epoch in terms of both sales and longevity. The statistics are simply staggering: Over a 46-year recording career, the band has issued 36 albums, sold well over 100 million records, and released 20 Top 10 pop and 22 Top 10 adult contemporary singles (15 of which broke the Top 10 on both charts). It achieved the enviable feat of placing these hits on the Billboard charts in five different decades. 17 of its first 20 albums were certified platinum, nine of those multiplatinum and Chicago 17 hit platinum a whopping six times.

The story of Chicago is one of the most paradoxical in the history of American music. Starting out in the late 1960s as a horn-dominated underground rock band verging on the avant-garde in its use of dissonance, jazz voicings and extended compositions, Chicago initially seemed to have little if any chance of AM radio success. Yet, within a year, the group had three Top 10 singles (“Make Me Smile,” “25 or 6 to 4” and “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is”), and were selling out arenas from coast to coast.

On its second LP, in 1970, the group declared, “With this album we dedicate ourselves, our futures, and our energies to the people of the revolution. . . . And the revolution in all of its forms.” Despite that, during its first national tour, the group’s trombonist, primary horn arranger and one of its main composers, James Pankow, stated emphatically: “We know what went on at the Democratic Convention, we know what’s going on in Vietnam, but to protest about that musically makes no sense. People hear about that stuff enough without having it shoved down their throats with music. What music is for is getting away from the problems of life.”

The latter statement would seem to be Chicago’s modus operandi for most of its career. By the 1980s, the group had long ceased to support any revolution, and no one would mistake them for being underground or avant-garde. Under producer David Foster’s tutelage, the band had morphed into a mainstream pop group fronted by bassist Peter Cetera, who seemed able to effortlessly craft one Top 10 power ballad after another (“Hard to Say I’m Sorry,” “Hard Habit to Break” “You’re the Inspiration”), while the horn section that was once one of its most distinguishing characteristics was all but muted.

Chicago was formed in the Windy City in February of 1967 by three DePaul University Music majors: saxophonist/flautist Walter Parazaider, trumpeter Lee Loughnane and trombonist James Pankow, alongside Chicago bar-band veterans keyboardist Robert Lamm, drummer Danny Seraphine and guitar wizard Terry Kath. Lamn originally did double duty, playing the bass parts on the pedals of his organ. Desiring more punch in the low end, the nascent group soon drafted bassist Peter Cetera from Chicago club sensations the Exceptions. In Kath and Lamm, the group had superb bass and baritone lead voices; Cetera’s tenor voice provided both depth and variety.

Initially called the Big Thing, the band relocated to Los Angeles in the summer of 1968, and manager and producer James Guercio changed its name to Chicago Transit Authority. Guercio’s pedigree included playing on Dick Clark package tours in the mid 1960s, briefly managing Chad and Jeremy, producing four hits by the Buckinghams in 1967, and producing the second Blood Sweat & Tears album. The latter association led many to mistakenly assume that Chicago was copying BS&T’s jazz-rock sound. But, in fact, Chicago had already been playing what its members preferred to think of as its own pioneering rock-band-with-horns sound in Chicago and L.A. clubs for two years before it heard BS&T. It is worth noting that just as Chicago was coming together as the Big Thing in early 1967, the Electric Flag was also pioneering its own concept of a rock band with horns.

Shortly after the release of its debut album in April 1969, the band received a cease-and-desist order from the actual Chicago Transit Authority. Consequently, from late 1969 onward, the group became known simply as Chicago.

With Guercio calling the shots, right out of the box Chicago marched to a different drummer. Four of its first seven albums were double sets. The fifth was the massive and unprecedented four-disc Chicago at Carnegie Hall, documenting a weeklong stint at the venerable concert venue in April 1971. Similarly audacious was Guercio’s decision to number, rather than title, the majority of the group’s albums, reasoning that if classical composers simply numbered their compositions, why not his group?

Instead of images of the band’s members, each album featured the group’s distinctive, stylized logo (designed by Nick Fasciano), creating brand recognition on the level of Coca-Cola or McDonald’s. It would not be until Chicago’s tenth studio album, 1978’s Hot Streets, that the cover featured photos of actual members. The net effect was that individual identities were subsumed under that of the band as a whole. This would prove extremely useful over time, as key members were replaced – the late Kath in 1978, Cetera in 1985 and Seraphine in 1990. While core fans were obviously aware of these changes, most likely the majority of Chicago’s audience hardly noticed.

Guercio’s tenure with the group from 1969 through late 1977 and Chicago XI would prove to be its golden period, producing the vast majority of the band’s best known songs, including such classic radio staples as “Color My World,” “Saturday in the Park,” “Just You ’n’ Me,” “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day,” “Old Days,” “If You Leave Me Now,” and “Baby, What a Big Surprise.” As Robert Lamm said in 2000, “The first 11 albums are Chicago, and Guercio’s genius was that he captured it, and no other producer [was able to] capture it.”

Not long after the group severed its relationship with Guercio in 1977, guitarist Terry Kath tragically died while playing with a gun he thought was not loaded. Kath was an extraordinarily soulful vocalist (“Make Me Smile,” “Hope for Love”) and a pyrotechnic guitar wizard as evidenced by “Free Form Guitar” from the group’s debut album, his slicing leads on “25 or 6 to 4,” and his moving elegy to Jimi Hendrix titled “Oh, Thank You Great Spirit.” The group would go through three more guitarists before finally settling on Keith Howland in 1995. As capable as each was, none of these ax wielders would replace the spirit, soul and musicality that Kath had brought to the group.

After three disappointing albums with first Phil Ramone and then Tom Dowd taking on the producer’s mantle, Chicago was bought out of its Columbia Records contract. Signing to Full Moon/Warner Bros., the band drafted keyboardist and vocalist Bill Champlin (formerly of the San Francisco staple Sons of Champlin) and let go Brazilian percussionist Laudir de Oliveira (who had joined beginning with Chicago VII in 1974). Handing over the reins to producer David Foster, beginning with Chicago 16 in 1982, the group drew on the earlier success of Peter Cetera ballads, such as “If You Leave Me Now,” and was reborn as a singles-oriented, power ballad juggernaut.

Foster would end up cowriting many of the songs on the next three albums (Chicago 16 through 18), bringing session musicians in to replace or augment the talents of the original band members, liberally employing drum machines and relegating the group’s horn section to the background. Things would never be the same.

By 1985, Peter Cetera left to embark on a solo career, and was replaced by Jason Scheff. Reborn yet again, Chicago managed to achieve gold sales with Chicago 18 and platinum with 19, but after firing drummer Danny Seraphine in 1990, the band basically ceased to be a commercial force. With Tris Imboden replacing Seraphine, Chicago Twenty 1 failed to produce a hit. At this point, Chicago began to tread water. Over the next two decades, it released Night and Day (1995), an album of big-band standards originally cut by Glenn Miller, Duke Ellington, and Benny Goodman; two Christmas albums; six compilations; and two live sets. Chicago XXX (2006) was the first studio album of new original material since 1991. With the exception of 2008’s Chicago XXXII: The Stone of Sisyphus, recorded in 1993, the only subsequent album of new material was Now, put out by the group’s label, Chicago Records, in 2014. That year, the group was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame. In 2015, Chicago released yet another live set, Chicago at Symphony Hall Featuring the Chicago Symphony Orchestra.

Despite the lack of new material over the past 25 years, Chicago has remained a steady box office draw. Millions of fans are still happy to hear the group’s stunning legacy of hit singles, which collectively cover an extraordinary variety of musical styles from funk to rock to jazz to blues to classical to pop ballads.

With that in mind, perhaps it’s fitting to let founder Walter Parazaider sum up the band’s appeal, and ultimately its greatest strength: “There were so many diverse personalities in this group that sometimes I had to wonder why this didn’t blow up after about a year’s worth of success. But we loved music so much. Peter wrote country tunes on the third album. . . . Jimmy Pankow was a stone-cold jazzer who loved the Beatles. Lee Loughnane loved playing big-band jazz, but loved rock and roll. The same thing with myself. And then you had people who loved the Jimi Hendrix stuff, like Terry, or just rock and roll stuff, like Danny, and if you think about it, there is everything from blues, classical, the big-band sound. It became a meld into the band where any kind of music, as long as it was played well, was valid.”

Thirty-six albums and 46 years later, the results speak for themselves.

By Rob Bowman

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04.21.16 @ 23:13pm




The Chicago Blackhawks won't be winning the Stanley Cup in the year of Chicago's induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame because the St. Louis Blues just eliminated them. Damn it!

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04.25.16 @ 23:22pm


http://petercetera.com/photos/

Oh thank God, it arrived safely! It's official, Peter Cetera posts pictures of himself with his 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame trophy.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.27.16 @ 06:48am


http://petercetera.com/photos/

Peter Cetera has posted another photo of himself and his Rock Hall trophy, along with Steve Miller in Idaho, with a caption:

With Steve Miller in Idaho before the interview for our local paper, The Mountain Express.The article should be in next Wednesdays paper and it will be the first and only one with us together talking about careers and the Hall Of Fame induction snafu’s…Bam

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.27.16 @ 20:32pm




THIS EXPLAINS A LOT! MAYBE!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.27.16 @ 20:45pm


http://petercetera.com

Peter Speaks:

April 28, 2016

Hello again!

Just did an exciting interview with fellow local Steve Miller. Two long time friends from the same small town, inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame the same year and with two strangely similar takes on the ceremonies…The first and only interview together will be in the Mountain Express, the local paper up here in Idaho next Wednesday…….

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 04.27.16 @ 21:49pm


Boys and girls--this is what a guy with tremendous talent, and no brains looks like. Don't try to emulate this self-centered turd!

Posted by Gary on Friday, 04.29.16 @ 01:09am


https://www.facebook.com/HuffPostEntertainment/videos/10154116129017363/

VIDEO: Chicago's Robert Lamm and Lee Loughnane Huffington Post Facebook Interview

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylVR2UlTLpA

It was Jann Wenner who asked Rob Thomas to present Chicago. Which means Jann Wenner selected all the presenters.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 04.30.16 @ 20:37pm


It doesn't appear that Terry Kath's family, Danny Seraphine or Peter Cetera offered anything of theirs to be put on display at the Rock Hall museum. No guitars or anything.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.1.16 @ 22:35pm


Terry Kath's green long sleeve Fillmore East shirt is on display at the Rock Hall.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.1.16 @ 22:48pm


Laudir De Oliveira and Donnie Dacus were in New York for the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony. They performed with Danny Seraphine at the Cutting Room after the induction ceremony along with Chad Smith, the drummer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Check for photos on Danny Seraphine's Facebook and on Youtube.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.1.16 @ 23:31pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIzuIIBLEYg

RAW: Full interview with Chicago band manager Peter Schivarelli

Talks about what transpired between Robert Lamm and Peter Cetera.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05.3.16 @ 22:37pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9v72MHsdxY

RAW: Full interview with James Pankow of Chicago

Posted by Roy on Friday, 05.6.16 @ 21:49pm


http://www.mtexpress.com/arts_and_events/music/feelin-stronger-every-day/article_71c63714-117e-11e6-910f-7b48ec8e9a79.html?mode=image&photo=0

Feelin’ stronger every day
Rock stars Steve Miller and Peter Cetera are 2016 Hall of Famers

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2qOGlt3dlc

ROB THOMAS TALKS PETER CETERA, CHICAGO ROCK HALL INDUCTION BACKSTAGE

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.7.16 @ 06:21am


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylVR2UlTLpA

Rob Thomas Talks Rock Hall 2016 Inductee Chicago

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.7.16 @ 06:23am


Terry Kath's green long sleeve Fillmore East shirt is on display at the Rock Hall.

I got an email response from Terry Kath's daughter. Terry Kath's guitars will eventually be at the Rock Hall Museum.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.7.16 @ 06:35am


The Rob Thomas Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Speech For Chicago

Saturday In The Park, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is, If You Leave Me Now, 25 Or 6 To 4, Feelin' Stronger Every Day, Wishing You Were Here…

I'm going to tell you a story. These songs are the sound of a city, they're the sounds of a melting pot, they're the sounds of unity, and they're the sounds of Chicago. In 1967 a group of musicians came together, and they were weaving their city's diverse musical influences into one bold, beautiful sound. It was a sound that was built on a tight R&B beat, beefed up with big-band horns and jolted with riffs from Terry Kath, who is one of the best and most underrated guitar players of all-time.

Just like everybody else they were seeing the Vietnam War on television. They were seeing the national guard on the streets of Chicago. They were seeing the marches in the south. They were being discriminated against because of their long hair. They wanted a revolution too, but all of their unrest came through the music and the lyrics: diverse, harmonious, powerful. So, Terry Kath, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, Robert Lamm, and Peter Cetera formed the Chicago Transit Authority, and then with a [shrewd]? bit of editing, [tightened]? it down to Chicago.

Now if you're going to take the name of one of America's great cradles of jazz, blues, rock and soul, you got to be more than just another rock band, and this is not a soft-rock band, this is not a jazz band. Chicago is a bonafide rock and roll band with horns. Big, bold horns that were [pulping]? fists, hitting harder than any drum line ever could.

So lets talk about the kind of stones that these guys have. Their first album was a double album. That my friends is balls of steal. Second album, double album. Third album, also a double album. Three double albums in a row to start their career. And what did they call those albums?: Chicago I, Chicago II, Chicago III. Fckng fearless! They sold more than 100 million records. 21 top ten singles, 5 consecutive number one albums, 11 number one singles, and 5 gold singles. An incredible 25 of their incredible 34 albums have been certified platinum, and the band has a total of 47 gold and platinum awards.

Now people say a lot of things about Chicago, and I know that bad-ass is generally not one of them. But just remember this, when Jimi Hendrix met them the first time, he told them that their horn section sounded like one set of lungs, and that their guitar player Terry was better than him. That kids is bad-ass! So if you think that Chicago is your mom's band, then man I want to party with your mom. These guys are legends. They are true musicians, and they are a bad-ass rock band with horns. It is my honor to finally induct Terry Kath, Peter Cetera, Danny Seraphine, Walter Parazaider, Lee Loughnane, James Pankow, and Robert Lamm - Chicago into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

Song that plays while Chicago is walking up to the stage to give their acceptance speeches: Feelin’ Stronger Every Day from Chicago VI (1973).

THE ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES

WALTER PARAZAIDER

I feel pretty damn good right now, I have to tell you. Thanks to the hall of fame for this great honor. This band started on February 15, 1967, when we played together for the first time in my basement. We never thought we’d be standing up here at this time, wow. I’d like to thank my brothers up here for the incredible experience of creating and playing music with them, as well as Terry Kath, our good friend and great guitar player. I’d like to thank my wife of 49, actually, almost 50 years, Jacqueline. You are my angel, my inspiration, and lifesaver, and I love you madly. I’d like to thank my daughters Laura and Felicia, and son-in-law Bryan for their support and understanding, and for all and everything, the important things in their lives growing-up that I missed. I love you dearly. There are a lot of names from radio, I’d like to thank Tom Cuddy, Scott Shannon, and Dick Young. I should let you clap for those three guys. They’re really great. Also we had two great road managers and that’s Steve [Roambot]? and Jack Dowdy. Some of the best in the business I have to say. Last and not the least is our manager who has believed in us for well over 30 years and kept us working. I don’t know how you do it. I get tired just thinking about it. That’s Peter Schivarelli. Been with us for 30 years. Thank you Peter. You kept us working the whole time. I have to say you’re a great friend. You have a heart of gold. And I’m biased because I’m from the neighborhood in Chicago. We go back 60 years. God bless you Pete. Thank you. And lastly to the fans out there for making it happen for us day after day, year after year. We’re not going anywhere. We’re gonna keep going. So thank you, and you ain’t seen nothing yet!

ROBERT LAMM

I want to first acknowledge and thank all the audiences that come to see us play year after year and the millions of fans. If anybody here voted online and added to the 37 million people who voted for us to get in the hall of fame finally, thank you. I want to congratulate our fellow inductees. Thank you for your music. Thank you for your creativity. We are flattered to be among you tonight. Thank you to the Hall of Fame for this honor, if only for the opportunity to thank all the people that helped make all of this a reality. As I’ve heard said earlier tonight, this isn’t something you can do by yourself. In this case, Walt, Danny, Lee, James, Terry: my brothers in the band. I would not be standing here without you. I have to say, the current band: Jason Scheff, Keith Howland, Tris Imboden, Walfredo Reyes, Jr. [Peter Cetera]??? All these guys, all these musicians have taught me so much about music and about living. I want to take this time also to thank the effervescent Peter Schivarelli, our manager. He has been our offense, our defense since forever. He’s somehow found a way to keep us working for almost fifty years. We love you Peter. You are a generous gentleman. I’m trying to do this without my notes, so please excuse the pausing. But I’m a lucky man because I got the love and support of my beautiful wife Joy for 25 years now. I love you so much honey. Our three daughters somehow found a way to get here tonight from all over the country: Shawn, Kate, Sasha, I love you so much. I know there’s other stuff in here I was going to say, more business type stuff, but I will acknowledge all the team at CAA who take all of Peter’s phone calls 24 hours a day and find a way to keep us working. So thank you once again Hall of Fame. Thank you to them. Thank you.

LEE LOUGHNANE

How you doing? I’m Lee Loughnane. This is pretty interesting. We’re having a great time. We hope you guys are too. We’re new at this. I have my cue cards here. It doesn’t come up over there. I wrote a little something down with iPhone. Life is filled with ups and downs but I’ve been blessed with three things that never failed me: music, my trumpet (as long as I keep practicing), and the guys in this band. Thank you guys. As you can see we’ve got the best manager in the business. Look he’s on the phone right now. He’s like the energizer bunny. He never needs batteries. He just keeps going and going and going and going. Unbelievable, thanks Peter. I want to thank our millions of fans around the world. They came in here and they pushed for our nomination. They voted 37 plus million times to get us in here. They count as one vote, but it was a big one. I want to thank besides all the business people who’ve already been mentioned, I want to thank my mom and dad, my brothers and sister who are here tonight. [Docs Harrison, John Bussal, Paul Whip, Rich Vandusky, Tom Fabish]? and especially my kids, they probably had it the hardest because I’ve been gone for such a big part of their lives. Here we are! And lastly I’d like to thank my ex-wives for making sure that I have to keep working. Thank God, I love it. Thank you.

JAMES PANKOW

Hi, I’m Jimmy Pankow. This is amazing. We never thought we would make it, but we did. You know, it’s a milestone. A family whom I love very much is with me. My wife sustains me everyday. Delivered me four beautiful kids. They all are a source of inspiration at all times. My brothers in the band, my other family. All of the hard working intelligent professionals in this industry that were very instrumental in delivering this musical message to the world. 37 million fans that stepped up and cast your vote. If any of you are here tonight, all of us on this stage would not be here without you. And the hall of fame, thank you for finally inviting us into your house. You did a good thing.

DANNY SERAPHINE

I’m Danny Fckng Seraphine! Can you here me? Is the mike on? Okay I won’t yell then. I’ve been kind of away for 25 years in case you noticed or haven’t noticed. You probably haven’t noticed. I want to thank the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for making this possible. I’m going to get to play with my band for the first time in 25 years. I want to tell you a story about a band of brothers. 1968, we’re at a Dodger game. We’re going to see the Cubs play the Dodgers. Peter Cetera gets in a fight with a marine. Bad idea. He got his jaw broken. We took him to the hospital. They wired his mouth shut. Ten days later he’s on the fckng road performing his ass off. Now that’s balls! When Rob said bad-ass, this is a bad-ass band. That gave me so much belief that we could do anything. Fast forward six years. Robert is playing basketball backstage, trying to dunk. White people can’t dunk Robert. He breaks his fckng leg. He missed a gig. The next day he’s got a full cast and he played D3 for six more weeks. That’s what this band was all about. And that’s why we were so successful. We lived together as most bands do. We cried together, we fought together, we fckd together. Did I really say that? We died together. We had to bury one of our best friends. Our hearts were broken. I miss him every day. Terry Kath! As every band has spoken, it takes a village to do what we do. You can’t thank them all, but I have to thank James William Guercio. He gave us our name. He pointed us in the right direction. Paid our bills and gave us enough money to eat for six months while we conceived Chicago Transit Authority. There’s Howard Kauffman who always made sure we had good business. Jack Dowdy, always had our back for many years, our road manager for 18 years or more than that, until he tragically passed away. Larry Fitzgerald. We had a great dream management team. You can’t do it without great team management no matter how good you are. You’re done. So we’ve been really blessed. The producers we’ve been able to work with. David Foster, who made amazing records for us. Phil Ramone, the great Phil Ramone. Tom Dowd, Ron Nevison, Chas Sanford. I want to thank a few more people that really really made major contributions. Please wrap it up! Screw you! I waited 25 fckng years for this! I’m not leaving! I’m not going anywhere! Okay, I’ve got to thank Bill Champlin, Donnie Dacus, Laudir De Oliveira. Please give them what they deserve. Chris Pinnick, DaWayne Bailey. Even my bandmates are telling me to get the fck off. Hey, so anyways, tonight I get to play with them for the first time in 25 years. We’re going to burn up the stage! I want you to meet Terry’s daughter, Michelle.

MICHELLE KATH (TERRY KATH’S DAUGHTER)

I’m trying to imagine what my dad would say right now. I’m accepting on his behalf. He wasn’t too into fame, but I think he would be beyond honored and extremely excited to be recognized along with his very talented bandmates for this great honor from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and I’d just like to thank you guys for letting me get to know my dad through his music and his fans. I see you with the Terry Kath sign over there! Thank you Hall of Fame for getting Chicago in and honoring this amazing band.

The songs Chicago performed at the 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony:

01. Saturday In The Park (from Chicago V: 1972)
02. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? (from The Chicago Transit Authority: 1969)
03. 25 Or 6 To 4 (from Chicago: 1970)

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.14.16 @ 21:57pm


I'm going to update my induction speech for Chicago to mention only the original seven members.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.14.16 @ 22:16pm


If Peter didn't want to play or couldn't play or couldn't sing or whatever, at least he could have stood with us. I think he certainly deserves it. I think it's unfortunate.

-Robert Lamm

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.15.16 @ 06:20am


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-9jz3HZKM

Peter Cetera: 25 Or 6 To 4 in the key of E, not A

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.19.16 @ 21:54pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHrkDClpK88

Another One! Peter Cetera: 25 Or 6 To 4 in the key of E, not A

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.19.16 @ 21:55pm


There's one more chance for a Chicago/Peter Cetera reunion: The Songwriters Hall Of Fame induction ceremony. Even if they don't perform together, they will be in the same room at the same time. Chicago wouldn't be able to tell the Song Hall that they don't want Cetera performing separately from them, because unlike the Rock Hall inductees, the Song Hall inductees are being honoured for their individual songwriting achievements, both as members of a band and for their solo careers. In Chicago's case, only Robert Lamm, James Pankow, and Peter Cetera wrote enough songs to qualify for the Songwriters Hall of Fame. Robert Lamm, James Pankow, and Peter Cetera would be the only song hall inductees for Chicago, but the rest of the band would still perform with them at the induction ceremony. Chicago would probably not perform with their original drummer, Danny Seraphine, since this is an individual honor, not a band honor. Chicago would perform with their current drummer, Tris Imboden. Peter Cetera would perform separately from Chicago and invite Danny Seraphine to play drums for him. Chicago would perform Robert Lamm's Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? and Saturday In The Park, and James Pankow's Make Me Smile and Colour My World. Then Peter Cetera would come out with his own band, plus Danny Seraphine, and perform If You Leave Me Now, Baby What A Big Surprise, Hard To Say I'm Sorry, plus Glory Of Love from his solo career, without Danny Seraphine on drums. Peter Cetera can't perform 25 Or 6 To 4 because he didn't write it, and this is the Songwriters Hall of Fame. He would have to perform it with Chicago, but that won't happen.

Robert Lamm and James Pankow were nominated for the 2008 Songwriters Hall of Fame as Robert Lamm / James Pankow and they lost. Peter Cetera was not included as a nominee with them. From the song hall's bio for Robert Lamm / James Pankow it suggests that only Robert Lamm and James Pankow were nominated because they are still with the band Chicago, and they were the ones who wrote the most enduring songs for the band. Although, Robert Lamm and James Pankow hardly ever collaborated on any Chicago songs. Peter Cetera could still be nominated separately for the Songwriters Hall of Fame, but I don't know how much he is liked by them. There is nothing stopping the Song Hall from nominating them as Robert Lamm/James Pankow/Peter Cetera. They've made changes before. They used to always nominate Bert Berns and Jerry Ragovoy together. Now they nominate Bert Berns separately. If they nominate Robert Lamm and James Pankow together, and have a separate entry for Peter Cetera on the same ballot, there is a possibility they won't all be inducted the same year.

Paul McCartney and John Lennon were inducted into the Songwriters Hall Of Fame in 1987. George Harrison was nominated for the 2016 Songwriters Hall Of Fame and he lost. Ringo Starr doesn't qualify.

Peter Cetera gave the Songwriters Hall Of Fame induction speech for Paul Anka in 1993 and David Foster in 2010.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 05.19.16 @ 23:51pm


I’d like to thank my brothers up here for the incredible experience of creating and playing music with them, as well as Terry Kath, our good friend and great guitar player.

-Walter Parazaider

As I’ve heard said earlier tonight, this isn’t something you can do by yourself. In this case, Walt, Danny, Lee, James, Terry: my brothers in the band. I would not be standing here without you.

-Robert Lamm

My brothers in the band, my other family.

-James Pankow


I'll have to check if any of the other bands with no related members ever called each other brothers on stage during their inductions into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

If you watch the clips of Chicago's induction on youtube, recorded by the audience members, you can hear their reactions when Robert Lamm leaves out Peter Cetera as one of his brothers in the band. All the oooohs, holy shts, and laughter.

There was also one odd second during Robert Lamm's speech when he is thanking the current band and naming them, period. Then he says Peter Cetera, which made it sound like Peter Cetera was a current member of the band.


I have to say, the current band: Jason Scheff, Keith Howland, Tris Imboden, Walfredo Reyes, Jr. Peter Cetera. All these guys, all these musicians have taught me so much about music and about living.

-Robert Lamm

I don't know if people in the audience were telling him to mention Peter Cetera.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05.21.16 @ 17:21pm


Did they call each other brothers at the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony?

The Beatles - NO

The Rolling Stones - NO

The Beach Boys - NO

The Bee Gees - NO

Cream - NO

The Yardbirds - NO

Led Zeppelin - NO

The Who - NO

Creedence Clearwater Revival - NO

The Byrds - NO

The Eagles - NO

Fleetwood Mac - NO

Van Halen - NO

Aerosmith - NO

Rush - NO

Deep Purple - NO

Cheap Trick - NO

Chicago - YES

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05.22.16 @ 10:47am



http://ultimateclassicrock.com/chicago-transit-authority/?trackback=tsmclip

The History of Chicago’s Debut Album, ‘The Chicago Transit Authority’

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.23.16 @ 16:54pm


Roy,

Now that Chicago's long overdue induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame has occurred, whose inductions will they support next?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 06.5.16 @ 12:32pm


About Chicago, Enigmaticus wrote:
Roy,

Now that Chicago's long overdue induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame has occurred, whose inductions will they support next?

Willie Nelson, Joan Baez, Jan & Dean, The Monkees, Kool & the Gang, The Commodores, The Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Yes, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Joy Division/New Order

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 06.5.16 @ 17:47pm


Roy,

Thank you for your response. By the way, would the members of Chicago be willing to support Sade?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 06.5.16 @ 18:08pm


I don't know

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 06.5.16 @ 18:37pm




I like the new photo the Rock Hall chose for Chicago's page!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 07.17.16 @ 22:40pm




CHICAGO STANDS AS ONE OF AMERICA’S MOST SUCCESSFUL ROCK BANDS OF ANY EPOCH IN TERMS OF BOTH SALES AND LONGEVITY.

The 2016 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees:

Peter Cetera, Terry Kath, Robert Lamm, Lee Loughnane,
James Pankow, Walter Parazaider, Danny Seraphine

Fusing jazz and rock together in a time when the Beatles were still crashing onto the American shores and psychedelic rock was taking over the basements of teenagers; Chicago Transit Authority broke onto the scene unapologetically in 1969 with their self-titled double album, Chicago Transit Authority. A brazen mix of soulful rock, pop and jazz coupled with protester’s chants from the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention; the album received critical acclaim and later produced the classic singles “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?” and “Beginnings.” As the band began touring, under pressure from the city of Chicago, they shortened their name to simply, Chicago, and later released their second self-titled album, Chicago, in 1970. The center track, “Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon,” is a seven-part, 13-minute suite of pure melodic perfection composed by James Pankow who merged his love of classical, long song styles with Chicago’s signature sound. It yielded two unexpected singles “Make Me Smile” and “Colour My World” that quickly took the charts by storm reaching the Top Ten on Billboard’s Hot 100. From their inception through to the late 1970’s, Chicago mastered the art of making melodic jazz tinged rock with a keen pop sensibility. The group had a long string of jazz-rock mega hits including: “Make Me Smile,” “Saturday In The Park,” “25 Or 6 To 4,” “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day,” “If You Leave Me Now” and many others. Chicago’s early lineup created such an unmistakable sound and their inclusion into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is not only well-deserved, but an honor that has been overlooked. With over 21 Top 10 singles, 5 consecutive Number One albums, 11 Number One singles – fans that stretch across the globe and countless bands that have followed in their wake, Chicago’s legacy is unquestionable.

Selected discography: “Does Anyone Really Know What Time It Is?,” Chicago Transit Authority (1969) • “Make Me Smile,” “25 Or 6 To 4,” Chicago (1970) • “Saturday In The Park,” Chicago V (1972) • “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day,” “Just You ‘N’ Me,” Chicago VI (1973) • “Old Days,” Chicago VIII (1975) • “If You Leave Me Now,” Chicago X (1976) • “Baby What A Big Surprise,” Chicago XI (1977)

The statistics are simply staggering: Over a 46-year recording career, the band has issued 36 albums, sold well over 100 million records, and released 20 Top 10 pop and 22 Top 10 adult contemporary singles (15 of which broke the Top 10 on both charts). It achieved the enviable feat of placing these hits on the Billboard charts in five different decades. 17 of its first 20 albums were certified platinum, nine of those multiplatinum and Chicago 17 hit platinum a whopping six times.

The story of Chicago is one of the most paradoxical in the history of American music. Starting out in the late 1960s as a horn-dominated underground rock band verging on the avant-garde in its use of dissonance, jazz voicings and extended compositions, Chicago initially seemed to have little if any chance of AM radio success. Yet, within a year, the group had three Top 10 singles (“Make Me Smile,” “25 or 6 to 4” and “Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is”), and were selling out arenas from coast to coast.

On its second LP, in 1970, the group declared, “With this album we dedicate ourselves, our futures, and our energies to the people of the revolution. . . . And the revolution in all of its forms.” Despite that, during its first national tour, the group’s trombonist, primary horn arranger and one of its main composers, James Pankow, stated emphatically: “We know what went on at the Democratic Convention, we know what’s going on in Vietnam, but to protest about that musically makes no sense. People hear about that stuff enough without having it shoved down their throats with music. What music is for is getting away from the problems of life.”

The latter statement would seem to be Chicago’s modus operandi for most of its career. By the 1980s, the group had long ceased to support any revolution, and no one would mistake them for being underground or avant-garde. Under producer David Foster’s tutelage, the band had morphed into a mainstream pop group fronted by bassist Peter Cetera, who seemed able to effortlessly craft one Top 10 power ballad after another (“Hard to Say I’m Sorry,” “Hard Habit to Break” “You’re the Inspiration”), while the horn section that was once one of its most distinguishing characteristics was all but muted.

Chicago was formed in the Windy City in February of 1967 by three DePaul University Music majors: saxophonist/flautist Walter Parazaider, trumpeter Lee Loughnane and trombonist James Pankow, alongside Chicago bar-band veterans keyboardist Robert Lamm, drummer Danny Seraphine and guitar wizard Terry Kath. Lamn originally did double duty, playing the bass parts on the pedals of his organ. Desiring more punch in the low end, the nascent group soon drafted bassist Peter Cetera from Chicago club sensations the Exceptions. In Kath and Lamm, the group had superb bass and baritone lead voices; Cetera’s tenor voice provided both depth and variety.

Initially called the Big Thing, the band relocated to Los Angeles in the summer of 1968, and manager and producer James Guercio changed its name to Chicago Transit Authority. Guercio’s pedigree included playing on Dick Clark package tours in the mid 1960s, briefly managing Chad and Jeremy, producing four hits by the Buckinghams in 1967, and producing the second Blood Sweat & Tears album. The latter association led many to mistakenly assume that Chicago was copying BS&T’s jazz-rock sound. But, in fact, Chicago had already been playing what its members preferred to think of as its own pioneering rock-band-with-horns sound in Chicago and L.A. clubs for two years before it heard BS&T. It is worth noting that just as Chicago was coming together as the Big Thing in early 1967, the Electric Flag was also pioneering its own concept of a rock band with horns.

Shortly after the release of its debut album in April 1969, the band received a cease-and-desist order from the actual Chicago Transit Authority. Consequently, from late 1969 onward, the group became known simply as Chicago.

With Guercio calling the shots, right out of the box Chicago marched to a different drummer. Four of its first seven albums were double sets. The fifth was the massive and unprecedented four-disc Chicago at Carnegie Hall, documenting a weeklong stint at the venerable concert venue in April 1971. Similarly audacious was Guercio’s decision to number, rather than title, the majority of the group’s albums, reasoning that if classical composers simply numbered their compositions, why not his group?

Instead of images of the band’s members, each album featured the group’s distinctive, stylized logo (designed by Nick Fasciano), creating brand recognition on the level of Coca-Cola or McDonald’s. It would not be until Chicago’s tenth studio album, 1978’s Hot Streets, that the cover featured photos of actual members. The net effect was that individual identities were subsumed under that of the band as a whole. This would prove extremely useful over time, as key members were replaced – the late Kath in 1978, Cetera in 1985 and Seraphine in 1990. While core fans were obviously aware of these changes, most likely the majority of Chicago’s audience hardly noticed.

Guercio’s tenure with the group from 1969 through late 1977 and Chicago XI would prove to be its golden period, producing the vast majority of the band’s best known songs, including such classic radio staples as “Color My World,” “Saturday in the Park,” “Just You ’n’ Me,” “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day,” “Old Days,” “If You Leave Me Now,” and “Baby, What a Big Surprise.” As Robert Lamm said in 2000, “The first 11 albums are Chicago, and Guercio’s genius was that he captured it, and no other producer [was able to] capture it.”

Not long after the group severed its relationship with Guercio in 1977, guitarist Terry Kath tragically died while playing with a gun he thought was not loaded. Kath was an extraordinarily soulful vocalist (“Make Me Smile,” “Hope for Love”) and a pyrotechnic guitar wizard as evidenced by “Free Form Guitar” from the group’s debut album, his slicing leads on “25 or 6 to 4,” and his moving elegy to Jimi Hendrix titled “Oh, Thank You Great Spirit.” The group would go through three more guitarists before finally settling on Keith Howland in 1995. As capable as each was, none of these ax wielders would replace the spirit, soul and musicality that Kath had brought to the group.

After three disappointing albums with first Phil Ramone and then Tom Dowd taking on the producer’s mantle, Chicago was bought out of its Columbia Records contract. Signing to Full Moon/Warner Bros., the band drafted keyboardist and vocalist Bill Champlin (formerly of the San Francisco staple Sons of Champlin) and let go Brazilian percussionist Laudir de Oliveira (who had joined beginning with Chicago VII in 1974). Handing over the reins to producer David Foster, beginning with Chicago 16 in 1982, the group drew on the earlier success of Peter Cetera ballads, such as “If You Leave Me Now,” and was reborn as a singles-oriented, power ballad juggernaut.

Foster would end up cowriting many of the songs on the next three albums (Chicago 16 through 18), bringing session musicians in to replace or augment the talents of the original band members, liberally employing drum machines and relegating the group’s horn section to the background. Things would never be the same.

By 1985, Peter Cetera left to embark on a solo career, and was replaced by Jason Scheff. Reborn yet again, Chicago managed to achieve gold sales with Chicago 18 and platinum with 19, but after firing drummer Danny Seraphine in 1990, the band basically ceased to be a commercial force. With Tris Imboden replacing Seraphine, Chicago Twenty 1 failed to produce a hit. At this point, Chicago began to tread water. Over the next two decades, it released Night and Day (1995), an album of big-band standards originally cut by Glenn Miller, Duke Ellington, and Benny Goodman; two Christmas albums; six compilations; and two live sets. Chicago XXX (2006) was the first studio album of new original material since 1991. With the exception of 2008’s Chicago XXXII: The Stone of Sisyphus, recorded in 1993, the only subsequent album of new material was Now, put out by the group’s label, Chicago Records, in 2014. That year, the group was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame. In 2015, Chicago released yet another live set, Chicago at Symphony Hall Featuring the Chicago Symphony Orchestra.

Despite the lack of new material over the past 25 years, Chicago has remained a steady box office draw. Millions of fans are still happy to hear the group’s stunning legacy of hit singles, which collectively cover an extraordinary variety of musical styles from funk to rock to jazz to blues to classical to pop ballads.

With that in mind, perhaps it’s fitting to let founder Walter Parazaider sum up the band’s appeal, and ultimately its greatest strength: “There were so many diverse personalities in this group that sometimes I had to wonder why this didn’t blow up after about a year’s worth of success. But we loved music so much. Peter wrote country tunes on the third album. . . . Jimmy Pankow was a stone-cold jazzer who loved the Beatles. Lee Loughnane loved playing big-band jazz, but loved rock and roll. The same thing with myself. And then you had people who loved the Jimi Hendrix stuff, like Terry, or just rock and roll stuff, like Danny, and if you think about it, there is everything from blues, classical, the big-band sound. It became a meld into the band where any kind of music, as long as it was played well, was valid.”

Thirty-six albums and 46 years later, the results speak for themselves.

By Rob Bowman

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.22.16 @ 21:50pm


https://www.rockhall.com/inductees/chicago

CHICAGO 2016 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME BIOGRAPHY PAGE

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.22.16 @ 21:59pm


“I have a feeling it's thanks to the Chicago-style voting: five people voting 37 million times.”

-Robert Lamm on Chicago's Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction. Comment made to audience members at a Chicago-EWF concert.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.22.16 @ 22:35pm


http://ultimateclassicrock.com/chicago-hall-of-fame-speech/#photogallery-1=2

Chicago Albums Ranked Worst to Best

20: 'Twenty 1' (1991)
The nadir of a period that saw Chicago fruitlessly chasing their David Foster-era chart heights, Twenty 1 again found the group relying on pop-schlock songwriter Diane Warren for material – but without the results associated with the way more successful 19. Arguments over the final mix didn't help matters. Neither did the liberal use of session musicians. The emergence of grunge was simply the last straw.

19: 'Chicago XIV' (1980)
Bringing in producer Tom Dowd should have worked – especially after the wrongheaded, dance-influenced Chicago 13. Instead, this album is a dysfunctional mess. Columbia promptly paid Chicago a handsome sum to go away, cash the band then used to independently fund their David Foster-helmed comeback, Chicago 16. In the meantime, Peter Cetera dabbled with solo work, setting the stage for his departure.

18: 'Chicago XXX' (2006)
Chicago's first album of original material since 1991's 'Twenty 1' illustrated why it had taken them so long. The band seemed utterly bereft of ideas – or musical intent. Instead, XXX is dotted with Nashville ringers, and songs that alternatively feel like retreads ("King of Might Have Been," a variation on "Hard to Say I'm Sorry"; "Caroline," a new take on "Look Away") or hopeless misfires ("Feel," with its freeze-dried trip-hop beat). The comfy swing covers on 1995's Night & Day Big Band actually had more bite.

17: 'Chicago 13' (1979)
This album somehow went gold, based entirely on the name recognition associated with the cover image's high-rise logo. Its highest-charting single could do no better than No. 83. But 13 wasn't all bad. Jazzier asides like "Life Is What It Is" and "Aloha Mama" were simply subsumed by the instantly dated disco vibe.

16: 'Chicago 19' (1988)
Chicago leaned heavily on R&B-style vocalist Bill Champlin after producer David Foster's departure, but they lost the rest of their identity by turning almost completely to outside writers. Both "I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love" and "Look Away" hit big, but they sounded little like Chicago – either in their original or remade '80s form. Too often, this album felt like its messy, computer-generated cover image: simply tossed together.

15: 'Hot Streets' (1978)
At this point, Chicago had gotten so far off track that they'd apparently forgotten about the whole career-defining roman-numeral thing. The whiff of disco here (including an appearance by the Bee Gees) didn't help either. Still, the LP's best moments (the rumbling "Alive Again" and lithe "No Tell Lover," both Top 20 hits) showed Chicago might be able to find a path away from Terry Kath's devastating loss, though obviously they'd never be the same.

14: 'Chicago 18' (1986)
This might have ranked higher, had it not been for a disastrous remake of "25 or 6 to 4" that traded Terry Kath's furious sorcery for mechanized monotony. Sure, Peter Cetera was gone, and the David Foster magic badly faded. But approachable MOR triumphs like "Niagara Falls" and "Over and Over" more than made up for the obvious conceits of "Will You Still Love Me" and "If She Would Have Been Faithful."

13: 'Chicago XXXII: Stone of Sisyphus' (2008)
A shelved album recorded just after their heyday as a power-ballad act, Stone of Sisyphus gained grail-like mystery when Chicago's label scrapped the project for being too adventurous. Released years later, it was revealed to be more uncommercial than necessarily experimental. That left Chicago in a no-man’s-land dichotomy where expectations worked against them either way.

12: 'Chicago XXXVI: Now' (2014)
Chicago's best album since the '80s, Now nevertheless is marked by a disjointed feel, owing to its lengthy gestation period over a series of on-the-road sessions. Still, the project found Robert Lamm once again taking a tough stance on "Naked in the Garden of Allah," while "Watching All the Colors" recalled the easy-going joys of his 2008 solo album, The Bossa Project. At its best, this LP reanimates the highlights of Chicago's David Foster era, with a few splashes of their early attitude to goose things along.

11: 'Chicago XI' (1977)
This album marked the end of two eras, as Terry Kath would soon accidentally shoot himself while Chicago split with early producer James William Guercio. But even before all this, Chicago sound like a band on the verge of breaking up. Every song here comes off like a solo project, from Peter Cetera's hit retread ballad "Baby, What a Big Surprise" to Kath's reworked concert staple "Mississippi Delta City Blues" to Danny Seraphine's deeply personal "Take Me Back to Chicago."

10: 'Chicago 16' (1982)
This bold step toward platinum success still boasted – in moments like the brassy finish to "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" – enough elements of what came before to make it Chicago's best David Foster collaboration. But a period of career-threatening obscurity was followed by one that found Robert Lamm, once the songwriting heart of the band, recede almost into the woodwork. The group's new, Peter Cetera-focused fans couldn't have cared less: 16 sold like nothing Chicago had ever seen, and they'd spend the next four albums trying to recreate these chart victories – with varying results.

9: 'Chicago X' (1976)
Chicago's turn toward more pop-oriented sounds often is brought up alongside Terry Kath's death. But the transition actually began here, on an album that included the sticky-sweet ballad "If You Leave Me Now," a song that became Chicago's first No. 1, creating an insatiable record-label appetite for more Peter Cetera ballads. Kath died two years later.

8: 'Chicago VIII' (1975)
Trying to recapture the layered complexity of VI, but almost totally burned out, Chicago ended up all over the map. The best of this project includes Terry Kath's "Oh, Thank You Great Spirit," a tribute to Jimi Hendrix, and James Pankow's Top 5 hit "Old Days." But Robert Lamm's "Harry Truman" couldn't get into the Top 10, and then the Pankow ballad "Brand New Love Affair" stalled at a paltry No. 61. A lengthy break followed.

7: 'Chicago 17' (1984)
The biggest-selling album in Chicago's history, and home to a staggering four Top 20 singles, 17 confirmed the band's place in the pop firmament for a new generation. Together with producer David Foster, they crafted a pair of No. 3 hits in "Hard Habit To Break" and "You're the Inspiration" for a standard-bearing adult-contemporary album that remains the best of the new era. Elsewhere, songs like the elegantly dark "Stay the Night" and the flinty, synth-driven "Along Comes a Woman" connected in different ways with the modern zeitgeist.

6: 'Chicago III' (1971)
A lengthy period on the road combined with their third consecutive double album slowed Chicago's early momentum. III emerged as less focused, more experimental and, perhaps inevitably, less appealing to a wide audience – with only the Terry Kath-sung "Free" reaching the Top 20. Peter Cetera's "Lowdown" peaked at No. 35.

5: 'Chicago VII' (1974)
Their last gutsy move, VII found Chicago diving headlong into jazz – presenting an early outburst of instrumentals while transforming softer-focused fare like James Pankow's Top 10 hit "(I've Been) Searchin' So Long" into intriguing flights of fancy. Band members tried their hand at different instruments and at composing. (First-timer Lee Loughnane even scored a No 6 hit with "Call on Me.") They also invited three Beach Boys into the studio for Peter Cetera's lush "Wishing You Were Here."

4: 'Chicago VI' (1973)
James Pankow's No. 4 smash "Just You N' Me" pointed to the softer-edged fare just over the horizon, but at this point Chicago still retained enough rock inflections to keep things interesting. Elsewhere, Robert Lamm channeled Little Feat on the chugging "Darlin' Dear," while Terry Kath's "Jenny" emerged as a heartfelt ballad. "Feelin' Stronger Every Day," co-written by Pankow and Peter Cetera, became a No. 10 hit and concert staple.

3: 'Chicago V' (1972)
The most concise of Chicago's early records, and their first single-album release, V was dominated by Robert Lamm – to the exclusion of songs by Peter Cetera. No matter. Lamm was at the peak of his considerable powers, producing a Top 30 hit in "Dialogue," a key album cut in "A Hit by Varese" and the No. 3 smash "Saturday in the Park," the band's biggest hit at the time. All of it combined to make this Chicago's first chart-topping LP.

2: 'Chicago Transit Authority' (1969)
Best known to classic-rock radio fans for Top 10 hits "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" and "Beginnings," this thunderous statement of jazz-rock purpose took in everything from the explorative ("Liberation") to the politically charged ("Prologue, August 29, 1968" and "Someday, August 29, 1968") to the aptly titled "Free Form Guitar," a Terry Kath showcase. The full scope of Chicago's genius exists in embryonic form over these two discs.

1: 'Chicago II' (1970)
Here's where Chicago put everything together. There's the growling beauty of "Make Me Smile," the gorgeous romance of "Colour My World," and the nervy power of "25 or 6 to 4" – and all of them became Top 10 smashes. The first of those was pulled from this album's centerpiece suite "Ballet for a Girl in Buchannon," while elsewhere Robert Lamm continued along a political bent with "It Better End Soon" and Peter Cetera began his creative ascent with "Where Do We Go From Here." This is Chicago's most complete effort.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 07.22.16 @ 22:36pm


Robert Lamm's first wife and Peter Cetera's first wife are sisters.

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 08.7.16 @ 22:54pm



THE DIRECTORS OF CHICAGO'S MUSIC VIDEOS (1982-1991)

01. Hard To Say I'm Sorry directed by ??????
02. Love Me Tomorrow directed by ??????
03. Stay The Night directed by Gil Bettman
04. Hard Habit To Break directed by Leslie Libman
05. You're The Inspiration directed by Leslie Libman
06. Along Comes A Woman directed by Jay Dubin
07. 25 Or 6 To 4 directed by Andy Brenton
08. Will You Still Love Me? directed by ??????
09. I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love directed by Paul Boyington
10. Look Away directed by ??????
11. You're Not Alone directed by Richard Levine
12. Hearts In Trouble directed by Michael Bay
13. Chasin' The Wind directed by ??????
14. Explain It To My Heart directed by ??????

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 08.7.16 @ 22:58pm


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