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About the 2024 Inductees, N P wrote: | |
K-Dawg, I completely agree. Rock and Roll is not rock music. It's popular music, it's a spirit. However rock music is at the core and heart of Rock and Roll. That's why genres like gospel, blues, and rnb make sense in the Hall because that's where Rock came from. And plenty of artists like Elvis for instance incorporated those genres in their "rock" music. Genres like hip hop and pop are a direct result of rock music which is also why I believe they belong in the hall. The problem isn't that so many genres are allowed in the hall. It's that acts that are missing the spirit of rock and roll are getting inducted or nominated. I won't call out any names but a lot of recent acts nominated or inducted don't have the spirit component. There needs to be a certain edge to an act for them to get inducted. There needs to still be a certain inclusivity. Theirs plenty of artists who are black/people of color/women or from another genre who have the spirit and are worthy of being in the hall. The voters just need to take their time evaluating who those acts are instead of making it a popularity contest. | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 12:49pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, xwing1212 wrote: | |
I'll finish by saying maybe the Sex Pistols had a point when they called the Rock Hall a "piss stain" and "urine in wine." | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 12:38pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, xwing1212 wrote: | |
The side categories have become a complete joke that even the Rock Hall's definitions don't even make sense. Musical Excellence should be reserved for side musicians who would never get nominated on the main ballot. It should not be a "Performers B" category for artists who can't get voted in on the main ballot. Jimmy Buffett's spot should have been given to someone like Carol Kaye or Mick Ronson. You know, actual session musicians which the category was originally made for. Not a constellation prize for the performer category. | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 12:33pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Trust me I hate it too but that's just the way it goes now | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 12:29pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, xwing1212 wrote: | |
And maybe the institution should be renamed the "Popular Music Hall of Fame" to reflect how much of a farce it has become. | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 12:24pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, xwing1212 wrote: | |
If that's the way the Rock Hall is going to go than maybe it is a joke of an institution. No wonder Mark Knopfler and the other members of Radiohead snubbed them. | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 12:23pm | |
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About The Big Bopper, Martyn Gillie THE UK BIG BOPPER wrote: | |
I have been doing a tribute to The Big Bopper here in the uk for over 20 years now and I can honestly say that his music still attracts people of all ages. He was far more than a one hit wonder or being remembered for being in the plane crash with Buddy and Richie. His song " Someone Who's Watching over You Tonight " is hauntingly beautiful. I'm proud to carry on bringing his music to a new generation of fans. Here's my version of Little Red Riding Hood https://www.smule.com/sing-recording/675554173_4846314425 | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 11:36am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Power Plus Judas Priest and now Jimmy Buffett | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 11:33am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Greg F wrote: | |
If the rock purists want a Rock Music Hall of Fame they should establish one instead of trying to get the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to change their name to the Music Hall of Fame. | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 11:17am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote: | |
xwing1212 LL Cool J is an arena tour act but he still was inducted through ME | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 10:27am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, xwing1212 wrote: | |
Giving Musical Excellence to a band that can sell out a stadium does not feel right. | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 10:21am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote: | |
So I'm curious about who votes for the likes of the RS 500 list, it seems their voting group has no relation to the Rock Hall's voting body. If only Rock Hall voting body were casting the votes for RS 500 list, Lionel Richie, Foreigner, Doobie Brothers would have several albums listed, whereas bands like JD/NO, the Smiths, and the Pixies might not make the list at all. | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 08:05am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, K-Dawg wrote: | |
and for the millionth time... It's the rock and roll hall of fame. Rock AND ROLL. We know what rock is, but not many know roll. Since the beginnings of the 1950s, rock and roll music has been inspired by jazz, soul, blues, and countless other genres. Chuck Berry, Little Richard, even Elvis Presley--from the beginning, it wasn't exclusively rock music. People don't grasp the concept of what rock and roll is, because their brains stop after the first word. Rock, pop, hip hop, rap, you name it--it's all influenced from the same areas. I really laugh every time it gets said "call it the music hall of fame", because we aren't gonna race over to nominate every single instrument or voice, nor should we. It stays in its lane, and that's fine. The fact that someone on this almost universally educated on the subject board mentioned that silly suggestion is maddening. | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 02:22am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, K-Dawg wrote: | |
I think Ozzy opens the door for Motorhead, or more personally, I hope Pantera gets a look... | |
Thursday, 05/30/2024 @ 02:16am | |
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About Sonny and Cher, Dave Differton wrote: | |
Only time will tell but it seems unlikely Sonny & Cher will not get in. Nearly impossible to believe they are not in but look how long it took them to get Cher in as a Solo artist. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Cher have never mixed well, and it is a huge shame. | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 21:14pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Iron Maiden should be a near lock to get Musical Excellence at least right? | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 21:09pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, xwing1212 wrote: | |
Here's another thought. Where does the Rock Hall go next year with heavy metal with Ozzy Osbourne in? Do they go back to nominating bands like Iron Maiden and Motörhead or do they go for more hard rock acts in the vein of Van Halen/Def Leppard with Motley Crue and the Scorpions? | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 18:09pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
xwing1212 A lot of the Rock purtists for some reason don't think Rage Agaisnt or Green Day should be in because of their politics or that Kansas or Three Dog Night are more deserving and are better betters (with no exceptions) and should have gotten in right away Kinda funny that a good amount of Rock purists at least from I have seen that criticize the Hall for that are a bunch of right wing Bible thumpers so I guess it makes sense Also I honestly am probably one of the few that thought the Hall would shove Rage through the Musical Excellence route in 2023 and give their eventually Performers spot to either Soundgarden or Warren Zevon | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 12:59pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Al Woodruff Here is why it would be so stupid to rename it the "Music Hall of Fame" just because I don't know Foghat isn't in 1.It would cost money The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame museum in Cleveland itself I believe cost millions of dollars to be built and you probably get the same amount of money when it goes through all those renovations and expansions it goes through every year It probably cost million something dollars to even move it to Cleveland and to have these luxurious induction ceremonies The city of Cleveland would lose a good deal of money if they decided to lose one of its most important tourist attractions in the city and I dont think that anyone would be calling for the "Music Hall of Fame" or "Pop Music Hall of Fame" to be in Cleveland And to move it to Los Angeles or something like that? Well you do the math lol Basically it would cost the taxpayers of the city of Cleveland and the state of Ohio extra amount of money for such a type of thing 2.Rock acts would be even more snubbed for a even wider ranges of genres A hypothetical place that calls itself the "Music Hall of Fame" will unfortunately still snub acts like Boston or Styx now in favor for classical and Pre Rock n Roll Pop acts like Mozart,Yo Yo Ma,John Williams,Wayne Newton,Hans Zimmer and Bing Crosby you know acts that no one what so ever is calling Rock n Roll or has credibility of Rock n Roll 3.It wouldn't be good for marketing and public relations 4.Just calling it "The Music Hall of Fame" would be broad and boring | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 12:52pm | |
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About Looking Glass, Andy wrote: | |
If you have a song that hits #1, even for a week, you should be in. The song Brandy struck a chord with enough people to hit #1. It has been used in many movie and commercial soundtracks since. The musicians in Looking Glass all talented. | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 10:54am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, al woodruff wrote: | |
It is crazy name for RRHOF. Most of the inductees are not Rock& Rollers! They should be ashamed that Johnny Maestro and the Crests have not been inducted! I have no respect for the RRHOF. It should named the Music Hall of Fame! | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 08:49am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Mat r wrote: | |
Power I don't think it's hostility really but embarrassment linked to teens on twitter saying "who is beck" | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 08:40am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote: | |
I really think Beck's grammy year album award hurts his chance for RRHOF pretty much, many voters may think he is overrated because of that award (especially in pop/industry voters). That award should have been given to Beyonce in those people's eyes and they may have hostility toward Beck since then. | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 08:12am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Mat r wrote: | |
xwing1212 I mean beck was involved with Lou Reed's induction and Lenny did Lionel and the prince tribute. You can add them to the Morello list | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 07:42am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote: | |
xwing1212, Agree with you in most parts. You can find that most 80-90s (alternative/indie) rock/metal acts are more isolated from music industry and rock hall inner circle compared with other rock genres acts. The only reason that Rage was nominated 5 times in 6 years is that Tom Morello is in the nom com. It is a little unfair that others like Pumpkins, Soundgarden did not get that huge amount of chances. But Tom Morello is not as connected as likes of Dave Grohl. So I'm curious about who votes for the likes of the RS 500 list, it seems their voting group has no relation to the Rock Hall's voting body. If only Rock Hall voting body were casting the votes for RS 500 list, Lionel Richie, Foreigner, Doobie Brothers would have several albums listed, whereas bands like JD/NO, the Smiths, and the Pixies might not make the list at all. | |
Wednesday, 05/29/2024 @ 01:21am | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, xwing1212 wrote: | |
Does anybody else think that 90s bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Green Day, and Foo Fighters were easily inducted because of how connected their respective members are (Dave Grohl, Eddie Vedder, Billie Joe Armstrong) in the music industry and Rock Hall inner circle? Because when you look at the other bands of that era that also got inducted (Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nine Inch Nails, Radiohead, Dave Matthews Band) some of them needed 2-3 nominations to get in. In fact, the catalyst to get NIN it seems was for Trent Reznor to induct The Cure. If you play nice, you at least get a nomination. The only outlier is Rage Against the Machine since Tom Morello is involved with the Rock Hall by being on the nom. I guess boomer voters don't take kindly to Rage's politically-charged lyrics? | |
Tuesday, 05/28/2024 @ 17:30pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote: | |
Poseidon, but you're not accurate and you're not reliable, I don't want to talk to you ever again and I don't want you to talk to me ever again also, Thanks and Have a great day. Goodbye and Good Riddance. | |
Tuesday, 05/28/2024 @ 15:00pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Poseidon wrote: | |
richie, I am accurate again this year so I am reliable What do you think? | |
Tuesday, 05/28/2024 @ 14:44pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, KING wrote: | |
KING MAY 27, 2024 Memorial Day Quick 20 2024-2025 Nominees. 1. Diana Ross 2. Motorhead 3. Lenny Kravitz 4. Bad Company 5. Soundgarden 6. Mariah Carey 7. Joy Division New Order 8. The White Stripes 9. Cyndi Lauper 10. Bryan Adams 11. The Bangles 12. Megadeth 13. The Roots 14. Amy Grant 15. Salt N Pepa 16. Iron Maiden 17. Smashing Pumpkins 18. Scorpions 19. Phil Collins 20. Luther Vandross KING | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 17:16pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote: | |
Power, https://futurerocklegends.com/2024_Inductees/#448110 If Soundgarden, Joy Division/New Order, Warren Zevon, Cyndi Lauper, The Replacements, Mariah Carey, Iron Maiden, Eric B. & Rakim, Coldplay, No Doubt, Luther Vandross, New Edition, OutKast, Melissa Etheridge and Boston are the 2025 nominees, Which ones do you see being inducted (If 8 inductees again)?. | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 16:51pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Acts I thought about putting on when it came to my 2025 predictions but missed the final cut (However this could change) King Crimson The White Stripes Styx Bad Company/Free Jethro Tull Oasis Sinead O Connor Jennifer Lopez Patti LaBelle Gloria Estefan Eric B and Rakim Queen Latifah Sade The Pixies Sonic Youth Jane's Addiction Sting Beck Barry White Luther Vanross Ohio Players Thin Lizzy Motorhead Motley Crue Weezer Snoop Dogg Lil Wayne 50 Cent Dr Dre The B 52's Alanis Morsette Gorillaz | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 16:20pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote: | |
Alec Tess, You listed Eric B. & Rakim twice regarding acts that you thought about putting on when it came to your 2025 nominee predictions but missed the final cut, Please replace one of the Eric B. & Rakim's with another act. Thank You. | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 15:51pm | |
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About New Edition, Kenneth Harrison wrote: | |
NE should been in on 1st ballot. 40 years and counting. Just dont make no sense Best group of all time!!! | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 15:48pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Power Come to think of it I am sure in the near future then that Joe Cocker or Robert Palmer will get Musical Excellence or Influence down the road | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 15:37pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Acts I thought about putting on when it came to my 2025 predictions but missed the final cut (However this could change) King Crimson The White Stripes Styx Bad Company/Free Jethro Tull Oasis Sinead O Connor Jennifer Lopez Patti LaBelle Gloria Estefan Eric B and Rakim Queen Latifah Sade Eric B and Rakim Jane's Addiction Sting Beck Barry White Luther Vanross Ohio Players Thin Lizzy Motorhead Motley Crue Weezer Snoop Dogg Lil Wayne 50 Cent Dr Dre The B 52's Alanis Morsette Gorillaz | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 15:33pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Well as for Phil Collins? It will be 40 years in 2025 since the release of quite possible not just the biggest album of his solo career but his biggest album of his career period "No Jacket Required" Also like with Ozzy he is in declining health and pretty much seems like has unofficially retired from touring after the last Genesis reunion tour And like Ozzy I feel like with that factor there will be a big push to make him a 2 time honoree while he is there to see it | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 15:20pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, richie wrote: | |
Alec Tess, You forgot to put your reasons behind Phil Collins on your 2025 nominee predictions list, Please do it. Thank You. Power, besides Phil Collins, Bryan Adams, Cyndi Lauper, Luther Vandross, Mariah Carey, OutKast, Coldplay, Devo, Roberta Flack, INXS, Soundgarden, Iron Maiden, Lauryn Hill, Boston and War, Which other acts do you think would get in next year if nominated?. | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 15:10pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote: | |
Many obvious US influences are already in, so he hall is starting to push UK early influence So if John Mayall is in, why not Cliff Richard, they are in same category, infleuntial in UK rock development but slim success in US rock movement. So Cliff Richard definitely should be in, deeply influencing a ton of British invasion bands. And earliest British rock star. Thoughts | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 14:04pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, power wrote: | |
richie Agree most of your list. I would like to delete Motley Crue on your list. Add WAR. Also, it should be noted that the Smiths will be nominated for the third time in their possible next nomination, and probably will be one of the most nominated candidates on the ballot. But I am not sure their chance in the possible next time. I think if you are one of most nominated acts on the ballot, you are very very likely to get in (see Kate Bush, Rage, Spinners, ATCQ). I think rock hall did not modify the counts when counting the final voting number, but just let rock hall'a friends voters to use 1-2 spots to vote for most nominated acts in voting period. So ATCQ, Rage, Kate Bush all likely to get "extra help votes" to be inducted. What do you think of this guess. | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 14:00pm | |
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About the 2024 Inductees, Alec Tess wrote: | |
Short reasons for my 2025 predictions list Boston-Foreigner and Peter Frampton getting in opens the door for many of the Classic Stadium Rock acts that dominated VH1 and MTV back in the day and I feel like Boston should be the next one Had a way longer period of success that people realized and that whole debut album in general has enough for voters to recognize Bjrok-I see them resting Mariah Carey for the 90s female pop act and instead go with the Jack of all trades and master of all Bjork Coldplay-I'm surprised they didn't get nominated in 2024 but I suppose it was because of their World Tour schedule getting in the way of the induction ceremony in October so that could be why they went with Oasis instead Cyndi Lauper-I was kinda surprised that she wasn't nominated again in 2024 but after a rest year I could very well see her back on the ballot especially if she has a big showing in Cher's induction ceremony Anyways I see them Oasis for the time being and going towards them One of the biggest acts Rock of the past quarter century and there possible new album on the way should help them steer them towards a nomination Diana Ross-She just turn 80 and is back touring Tina Turner,Chaka Khan and now Cher have gotten their overdose solo induction and I have to feel like soon they will have to do it for Diana Ross Iron Maiden-Feels like very odd year for them (2021) (2023) and now (2025) for them just like how it was every other even year for Judas Priest (2018) (2020) (2022) Maiden I feel like either way should be the next Metal act to be honored even though it will likely be through the Musical Excellence route John Mayer-This may stun some of you but like with Kravitz he has many industry connections and has inducted several artists in the Rock Hall and has played at several Rock Hall ceremonies That usually signals a eventual nomination 2025 will be Mayer's second year of eligibility for the Rock Hall Joy Division/New Order It may take 2 or 3 tries for them but unlike Iron Maiden I don't think that they will have to resort to being honored by a side category Lenny Kravitz-The only act nominated in 2024 I can see coming back in 2025 I was more stunned than Mariah to get him not get voted in but I feel like will all those industry connections he won't have to wait long Linkin Park-The only FYE pick and the biggest curveball on this list I'm sure with Rage Against the Machine finally in that LP and the fact that when it came to Rock in the 2000s it always seemed like MTV was always focusing on Linkin Park and given how Chester Bennington has become a martyr in recent memory and rumors of a reunion and the fact that a old demo of theirs from 2003 became a top 40 hit in 2024 I'm sure at least LP will start a discussion Laryun Hill-It's logical that after Mary J Blige that would try out Laryun Hill and the fact that she has her lone studio album rated as the greatest album of all time by Apple Music I know some will be upset that the Fuggess will be left out but the Hall just did that with Lionel Richie and The Commondors and George Michael and Wham! so I wouldn't be surprised if they did that with Lauryn Hill OutKast-I feel like there is a section of the Hall committee waiting for this band to finally be nominated With Big Boi doing Kate Bush's induction speech and them being a big staple at the Hall museum's Hip Hop Exhibit Also the idea of a a possible reunion between the 2 at their hypothetical induction ceremony Soundgarden-I fully believe they will be like with Rage Against The Machine,Todd Rudrgon,The Zombies,Kate Bush and A Tribe Called Quest 3rd luck will be a charm and unlike with Iron Maiden and like with Rage Against The Machine I think they will push this band to be voted in through the main Performers category even if it takes 4 or 5 tries for them to get in Smashing Pumpkins-I believe if they will rest Jane's Addicton for the time being and instead give a FYN towards the Smashing Pumpkins At least to me they kinda have seen a resurgence in popularity and them being on tour with Green Day and Tom Morello this summer could reign a light on their candidacy next go around War-The most logical R&B/Funk act to nominate after The Spinners and Kool & The Gang Also the next one in life with the most recognizable discography Warren Zevon-I'm sure the nomination committee will give him at least one last go and if not he will be a Muscial Excellence inductee in about 2 to 3 years So that's the main ballot but anyways here are some possible acts I can see getting in through the Muscial Excellence and Musical/Early Influence categories Muscial Excellence Rory Gallagher Gary Moore Eric B and Rakim Nicky Hopkins Paul Rodgers The J Giles Band New York Dolls Ronnie James Dio The Meters Ian Hunter Donny Hathaway Randy Bachman Ashford & Simpson Musical/Early Influence Fela Kuti John Coltrane Duke Ellington Herbie Hancock Wayne Shorter Sonny Rollins Carol Kaye Mere Haggard Chubby Checker Dick Dale Ella Fitzgerald Memphis Minnie Odetta Sun Ra The Marveletts The Shangri-Las Kris Kristofferson Jan & Dean | |
Monday, 05/27/2024 @ 13:49pm | |
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