The 2007 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees

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The 2007 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees were finally announced, approximately six weeks later than usual. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation has reduced the size of its Nominating Committee "to move things along quicker," but it also unexpectedly reduced the number of nominees. Typically, fifteen artists are nominated and six or seven are inducted each year, however this year there are only nine nominees. No word on whether the number of inductees will also be lowered. [Update: there will reportedly be five inductees this year.]
Future Rock Legends correctly predicted five of the nine nominees for 2007.

Much more on the 2007 nominations in the FRH Blog.

Here are your official 2007 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees (all quotes from the official press release):

Update: Click Here for the 2007 Inductees!

  • R.E.M. "was the first underground American band from the 1980s' "indie" scene to break through and find mainstream success. Their 1981 cult hit "Radio Free Europe" was an entirely new kind of pop song -- jangly, distorted, lo fi, but still melodic and even delicate. The unique sound of their first album, 1983's "Murmur" on IRS Records, was the beginning of the multiplatinum band's emergence as leader of the U.S. alternative scene of the '80s and '90s."
    Current Induction Chances: 90%

  • Van Halen "was the 1980s' biggest hard-rock success story, with brothers Alex and Eddie Van Halen emerging as drum and guitar virtuosos, featuring the most bombastic, outrageous frontman since Mick Jagger in David Lee Roth. Van Halen played metal-tinged rock and roll with a fun, sexy swagger, and their 1978 self-titled debut album sold 10 million copies, featuring a genre-changing guitar solo on "Eruption." Van Halen continued to chart through the 1990s."
    Current Induction Chances: 80%

  • Patti Smith "is considered the Godmother of Punk, and her cerebral, poetic, raggedly emotional music is both utterly unique and very much of a certain time and place in music history. The time and place were lower Manhattan's grimy streets in the early 1970s, where Patti was a contemporary of bands like Television and the Voidoids and artists like Robert Mapplethorpe and Andy Warhol."
    Current Induction Chances: 74%

  • The Stooges "came out of Ann Arbor, Michigan, but they were quickly adopted by Detroit rockers the MC5, who recognized their incendiary garage-rock sound and proto-punk sensibility. With songs like "I Wanna Be Your Dog" and "Search and Destroy," the Stooges' intensity, especially that of frontman Iggy Pop, has rarely been rivaled. An international sensation, the Stooges made only three studio albums, but they influenced hundreds of bands to come."
    Current Induction Chances: 69%

  • Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five "were the greatest innovators of hip-hop's formative era beginning in the late 1970s. Grandmaster Flash himself is considered the first to develop most DJ techiniques, from cutting to back-spinning to phasing on the wheels of steel. Teaming with the Furious Five's influential MCs, such as Melle Mel and Cowboy, the group released a series of seminal rap tracks, incorporating soul, r&b, funk, punk, new wave, hard rock, and glam."
    Current Induction Chances: 60%

  • The Ronettes "timeless Girl Group anthems have at times been overshadowed by the personal drama and history of the group's connection (and leader Ronnie Bennett's marriage) to Phil Spector. But the Ronettes' music, made in just three years from 1963 to 1966, is nearly perfect on its own, with no backstory. Megahits like "Be My Baby" and "Baby, I Love You" were instant classics, and remain as compelling today as when they were first released, inspiring the Rolling Stones and the Beach Boys to become fans."
    Current Induction Chances: 57%

  • Chic "was a pioneering New York jazz-funk group led by writers and producers Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edwards, who brought refined musicianship and rhythmic innovation to 1970s disco. They also laid the foundation for hip hop, with their song "Good Times" providing the music for the groundbreaking hit "Rapper's Delight." Rodgers and Edwards went on to write and produce some of the '80s' biggest pop songs for Madonna, David Bowie, Mick Jagger, Diana Ross, Sister Sledge, and others."
    Current Induction Chances: 46%

  • The Dave Clark Five "were the British Invasion's most popular band, with more appearances on the Ed Sullivan show than the Beatles or the Rolling Stones. From 1965 to 1968, they had 17 Top Forty hits, including the iconic pop song "Glad All Over." They were known for a bigger production sound than their peers and a slick, pure melodic sensibility. Despite disbanding in 1970, the Dave Clark Five have sold more than 50 million records worldwide to date."
    Current Induction Chances: 42%

  • Joe Tex "was the first soul musician to cross over and have a pop hit with his 1965 song "Hold What You've Got." Joe Tex was one of Atlantic Records' most talented artists, and he scored more than two dozen consecutive pop/r&b crossover hits through 1969. Tex's songs were covered by James Brown, Percy Sledge, Johnny Cash, the Animals, Etta James, Elvis Costello and many others."
    Current Induction Chances: 27%

Update: Click Here for the 2007 Inductees!

The Rock Hall voting committee will now determine the winners, which will be announced at a press conference on January 8th. The inductees will be honored at the annual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Ceremony on March 12th, 2007.

Artists are eligible for the Rock Hall 25 years after releasing their first record.

* The "Current Induction Chances" represent the artist's odds of ever being inducted into the Hall of Fame, as calculated by Future Rock Legends and its users.

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Comments

171 comments so far (post your own)

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is a Joke!!!

Only 9 nominees this year, that is awful.

Six other artist could have been nominated such as 1. Kiss, 2. John Mellencamp, 3. Alice Cooper, 4. Genesis, 5. Rush, and 6. Def Leppard.

Well, at least Van Halen is finally nominated!!!!


My 2007 Prediction

1. Van Halen
2. REM
3. Stooges
4. Grandmaster Flash
5. Patti Smith

Next year will have Madonna for sure and hopefully Kiss, Genesis , and John Mellencamp among others

Posted by Kyle on Saturday, 10.28.06 @ 10:27am


Quite classic nominations

I vote like you Kyle

Posted by roméo on Saturday, 10.28.06 @ 12:36pm


I agree with Kyle's predictions, although I wouldn't be too opposed to the Rock Hall reducing the number of electees down to 3-4 instead of 5-7. I also find it odd that Mellancamp would be snubbed after being nominated last year, but I'm very happy to see Van Halen on the ballot. Besides Van Halen and first-year eligible R.E.M., the Ronettes are also first-time nominees, and my nomination for the "What the hell are they doing on this list" award.

Posted by A-Killa on Saturday, 10.28.06 @ 13:00pm


Reducing the nominees doesn't nessecarily follow that the inductees will be reduced too. REM, Patti Smith, and Van Halen are slam dunks to get in, the Stooges are also a relatively safe bet. Grandmaster Flash is a test case for rap as a genre, so I am hesitant to say he'll be in, but he certainly should be. And I bet Joe Tex, who, to be perfectly honest, I've never heard of, gets inducted just so music journalists can pretend they are privvy to some sort of secret knowledge no one else is.

Posted by Kit on Saturday, 10.28.06 @ 17:54pm


The Stooges need to happen, and this year is as good as any.

5/9 hit the first year out. Better than 0.500. Very clean, FHR, very clean.

rds

Posted by Rick on Saturday, 10.28.06 @ 22:16pm


Def Leppard Needs to be in!! Unbelievable that
Leppard is not in this R & R Hall of Fame!! Come
on if Elvis Costello is in,then Def Leppard w/out question(even more deserving than Van Halen
by far!!).

Posted by David on Saturday, 10.28.06 @ 23:37pm


what the hell

i sent in a 200 sig petition for duran duran & they were not bloody picked.

& the voters dont know shit about progressive rock or heavy metal. they the hell did they not select: judas priest, motorhead, def leppard, Iron Maiden

Posted by martin on Sunday, 10.29.06 @ 00:05am


The Rock and roll hall of fame is a joke. Those idiots that pick the bands are complete and utter morons. It's good to see that Judas Priest has been blown over again when they've been eligable for what, 13 years now? And Kiss gets snubbed again, just awsome. And god know's you're never gonna see Iron Maiden, Def Leppard, Motorhead, or any of the decent glam metal bands inducted when they start becoming eligable.

But I'm sure some that if asked the world would agree that some of their already inducted members such as the Jackson 5, Ike and Tina Turner, Michael Jackson, U2 have all made bigger impressions on rock then the bands i listed above right?...........

I hope VH1 does another rock honors next year, atleast they realize that Heavy Metal is an offshoot of Rock.........

Posted by Eric Neuman on Sunday, 10.29.06 @ 00:42am


Did someone just bitch about my main man Elvis Costello being in the hall? Man, no way did you just diss my main man Elvis Costello.

Also, thanks everyone for reminding me why I hate metal fans.

Posted by Kit on Sunday, 10.29.06 @ 13:50pm


Well, No Rush again this year.

How do The Ronettes get nominated? I don't think anyone has ever even begun to consider them Rock. It seems like the Nominations commitee wants REM, Van Halen, Grandmaster Flash, Patti Smith and The Stooges to make it, hence why they put them up against some pretty questionable groups.

Why not just change the name to "Music Hall of Fame", thats what it seems like (although there are no country singers...)

Posted by Steve on Sunday, 10.29.06 @ 17:10pm


The nominating committee is really forcing these same artists down the voters throats. By cutting down their choices, they are going to have to induct at least a few of these perennial losers.

Posted by c.w. on Monday, 10.30.06 @ 07:17am


I am very disappointed in this year's ballot.

It has become very sad indeed.

Posted by Cat on Monday, 10.30.06 @ 12:45pm


Why do they even bother with these farcical nominations? Why not just induct REM, Van Halen, Patti Smith and The Stooges and cut out the middle man?

I have nothing against those 4 being nominated, they are deserving, but why not surround them with bona fide hall of fame candidates? Then, they could say they got inducted over the likes of The Cure, Rush, Def Leppard, Cat Stevens, John Mellencamp, Moody Blues, Cheap Trick, etc.

And true, they failed several times, but if this years nominees were exactly like last years (except with the 5 inductees taken out and this years new nominees added), those four groups would probably still make it.

But seriously, The Ronettes? How do they count as Rock? Joe Tex? Nobody has ever heard of him and it is a Hall of FAME, not a Hall of success.

Posted by Will on Monday, 10.30.06 @ 13:55pm


Where is Ozzy Osbourne. I mean, black sabbath are in, and he's more famous than they are.

Posted by Mat on Monday, 10.30.06 @ 16:21pm


All the rest are great band, but Alice Cooper should be in there. Without Alice, there would be no bands like KISS, and any other bands that wore the heavt make-up. He started the shock-rock genre. Where is Ozzy Osbourne? Black Sabbath is in, but what happened to Ozzy's solo career? There are a number of bands that have a bigger influence on modern rock and roll then this years nominees. Atleast they got some of them in in the past few years.

Thanks for listenign to my rant, Mike

Posted by Mike on Monday, 10.30.06 @ 16:30pm


What a joke. It's a travisty that Kiss, Def Leopard, Rush, etc. are not nominated.

Hey Kit--while your precious Elvis Costello was making bubble-gum pop/toothpaste commercial music and playing 100-seat clubs, metal bands were selling out 20,000+ seat venues.

Hello?! We're talking Hall of Fame here--Joe Tex? Who the heck is that? The Ronnettes? Please...someone shoot me.

Posted by Rob on Monday, 10.30.06 @ 22:24pm


The Rock Hall needs to be hit in the head for not inducting Leonard Cohen and Chicago.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 06:53am


Its a tragedy that MARY WELLS is not in the Rock Hall of FAme. She was the FIRST Black female artist to consistently have BIG hits on the HOT 100.All female rock artists that followed her owe her a great debt.Her stage presense and charisma were natural and she did not need gimmicks to get over.

Posted by Tony Russi on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 07:28am


Rob--I missed the part where Watching The Detectives, Complicated Shadows,Allison,Radio Radio, and the entirety of Armed Forces were bubble-gum. Sure, the hooks are there but the lyrics are much more challenging. No one should care about ticket sales outside of promoters.

Metal fans don't take anything seriously unless it has a freakin' lead chainsaw player. Costello wrote clever, challlenging pieces of Post-punk goodness. Go masturbate to your Lamb of God albums.

Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 12:02pm


This is a joke, how about Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen, Peter Gabriel, John Mellencamp, Alice Cooper, Waylon Jennings .......The rock hall blows

Posted by pignose5 on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 14:15pm


What about the Doobie Brothers???

Posted by kingbiscuitboy on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 14:34pm


Well, it's re-confirmed, again... the Rock Hall has NO credibility!

Posted by David on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 15:48pm


Who is on your nominating committee? Why not POCO? Look at thier musical output and the infulence they have had on country rock. You have REM and The Stooges down as a possibility and not POCO. GO figure!!!!!

Posted by Tom Quint on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 16:38pm


Poco--AHAHAHAHA!

Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 17:06pm


where the hell is all the GOOD bands? And why is a hip hop artist a nominee? Isn't this the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame? Where's King Crimson? Jethro Tull? Rush? Blue Oyster Cult? Cheap Trick? Chicago? Deep Purple? Quicksilver Messenger Service? Yes?
All of these are great bands, more deserving of an induction. Way more deserving than many of the inductees (Especially Rod Stewart, his Every Picture Tells A Story album wasn't even that good)

Posted by angry user on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 20:34pm


I know the Rock Hall of Fame claims statistics mean nothing and they go by influence, but you have to be influential if you have 17 straight gold albums like Rush. And influence really did matter more than sales, then The Sex Pistols would have been inducted in their first year of eligibility.

Posted by Peter on Tuesday, 10.31.06 @ 21:39pm


i agree that there are countless deserving acts that are probably not going to get a shot for awhile. it's all politics, just like everything else in this world. having said that, i'm so freaking excited to see r.e.m. probably get in on their first eligible year. sorry, they're just the band that spoke to me through some very tough times. i hope the next album is ballz-out. i know they can do it.

Posted by nick on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 01:30am


Joe Tex and especially CHIC never have gotten enough credit than they deserve. BRAVO Atlantic records! This is at least the 3rd nomination for Chic, the best disco group to ever exist on the planet.

Posted by DJ Dave M on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 08:24am


It's a shame how many important artists keep failing to make the ballot at all, like Tom Waits, Brian Eno, Joy Division, Devo, Dr. John, MC5, Peter Gabriel, Kraftwerk, Captain Beefheart, Kate Bush, Leonard Cohen, Gram Parsons, Roxy Music, Nick Drake, The Cure, Can, The Fall, and so many other greats.

The only thing I can hope with the short nominee list is they will finally stop overlooking Patti Smith and The Stooges, although I'm sure they'll find a way to still leave them out.

Posted by FootFoot on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 08:45am


JOURNEY! Need I say more?

Posted by Debbie on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 09:42am


There is no justice in the world until Leonard Cohen is reognized as one of the best of all damn time!!!

Posted by Irishman!! on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 13:34pm


Vote for your favorite deserving but overlooked artists into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at:
http://www.rateitall.com/t-2529-deserving-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.aspx
Only REM and Van Halen were on this poll's top 20. Here are the top 20:
Chicago
Rush
Van Halen
Yes
R.E.M.
Moody Blues
Carole King
Genesis
Doobie Brothers
Dire Straits
Peter Gabriel (solo)
Deep Purple
Alice Cooper
The Cars
Jethro Tull
The Hollies
John Mellencamp
Pete Townshend (solo)
Steve Miller
Metallica

Posted by Garrett on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 14:50pm


I am very glad to see that finally Van Halen gets inducted. Even if you are not crazy about the band, (I am a huge fan), Eddie being the genius that he is, they deserve a certain induction.

Posted by Mike goldstein on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 17:42pm


I agree with Peter. If the Rock Hall of Fame actually did go by influence, then the Sex Pistols would have been in a LONG time ago.

I would love to see The Guess Who make it. They were a small Canadian group, but they managed to have a #1 single at a time when The Beatles, Stones, Who, Beach Boys, Jackson 5 and Bob Dylan were at the top of their game.

As for Hard Rock and Progressive Rock, its hard to believe that those genres have been overlooked for so long and yet Disco and Reggae have both seen several inductees. True, there aren't many of either, but this is a ROCK Hall of Fame.

Posted by David on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 21:31pm


Kit- thanks for showing me why metal fans hate you along with the hall of shame, idiot.

I say again: Priest, Kiss, and Maiden!

Posted by Eric on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 21:44pm


Metal fans love me. I keep them humble.

I'll go with Maiden. Priest I'm on the fence about. KISS can go choke on it.

Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 22:44pm


To respond to the comment left by David that Def Leppard is more deserving to be in the hall than Van Halen.
David must be either high or works for Def Leppard. In no known universe is Def Leppard more deserving than Halen.
2 things prove this point for me: Eddie VanHalen and David Lee Roth. They are one of the best one two punches in the history of rock. But please voters, don't ever allow room for Van Hagar in The Hall. That would be a true travesty.

Posted by Danny on Thursday, 11.2.06 @ 08:46am


Van Halen should have been inducted during their first year of eligability. They are in the same league as Aerosmith, AC/DC, etc so why did it take so long? Probably the same reason that Rush, KISS, Ted Nugent, and Ozzy aren't in.....because the Rock n Roll hall of fame is a joke. It supposed to be the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame...not the Rap hall of fame or the Pop Music hall of fame.

Posted by Tim on Thursday, 11.2.06 @ 09:45am


Having watched these lists for a long time,I can honestly agree that the nominees are getting to be absurd.

Nothing against disco,I lie it and all...but how can thwy seriously nominate Chic over the likes of The Moody Blues (whom I have never seen in this list)?

The Grass Roots (while not as famous as Moody B. they did have nearly 20 top 40 hits still played on oldies stations.

I also agree KISS should have been in there a long time ago,they've been eligible since 1998.

Eric Clapton not in either? Are we waiting until he's nearly unable to perform? Like they did with Bobby Hatfield & The Righteous Brothers?

I know that the only reason more 80s actsare being considerd is,that will bring in a betterdemographic of viewers for the awards broadcast. Why else would you team up The Police & The R. brother in the 2003 show? Or..induct U2 right off the bat?

The 2004 show still the best one.

You're fooling no one!

Posted by Walter LaMont on Thursday, 11.2.06 @ 17:35pm


Walter- Clapton was inducted in 2000 as solo, besides being in there with Cream and The Yardbirds.

Posted by ThatGuy on Thursday, 11.2.06 @ 19:17pm


There is a real bias toward the white rock band. The Rock N Roll H of F misses out on some people that have been around for years - that were hugely influential. Isn't it a bit naive to be missing Diana Ross, whether you like her or not? Who could have been more influential?

You miss other Motowners like Mary Wells and the Marvelettes. The Marvelettes aren't even on the list. Is this because no one knows who the original Marvelettes even were? Ask Berry Gordy.

Your missing Lesley Gore. Still performing and issuing CDS 43 years later after that string of Top 10 hits. That's kind of embarassing too.

And then you nominate people that while perhaps fondly thought of in the rock world, in the bigger rock and roll world, they aren't even known of.

You guys have some work to do.

Posted by Jim T. on Sunday, 11.5.06 @ 11:38am


It's a bit ridiculous to accuse the Rock Hall of being racist. It's a lot of things, but it's tough to make the case that African-Americans are under-represented. Take a look at the current Hall of Famers list.

Posted by c.w. on Sunday, 11.5.06 @ 13:00pm


Are you people crazy? The Ronnettes deserve to be in the Hall of Fame more than half the bands that are currently in there! To the person who said "they aren't rock": are you kidding me? Sure, they aren't rock as it is today, but today's rock is not the rock of the early Sixties. Geez.
I will agree that this list sucks. Patti Smith? The Stooges? Who the hell are these people? Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five? Great. All that does is pave the way for rap artists to get in. Thats the last thing we need.
John Mellencamp needs to be in. As much as I despise them, U2 needs to be in. KISS or Iron Maiden or someone like that I guess needs to be in. This Hall is becoming a sham more and more each year.

Posted by Emily on Tuesday, 11.7.06 @ 16:00pm


If you have honestly not heard of Patti Smith nor the Stooges, you are the last person who should be talking about other people's percieved ignorance.

Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 11.7.06 @ 23:57pm


Well the Rock and Roll hall of fame has kind of lost it... With this year's nominees none are influential with maybe the exception of Van Halen...But honestly can you sit them next to Jimi Hendrix, or the Beatles, Does David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar really think they can match Charisma of Elvis Presley or the Raw guts of Jim Morrison. And as for REM can they really compare to bands as influential as the Rolling Stones. And Joe Tex is no Marvin Gaye or Otis Redding. Patty Smith should have been in a Long Time ago, but if I were her I'd Take it as an insult being added this late after so many failed nominations.And Chic- They are no Earth Wind and Fire. So Like congress throw the bums out because to me only Van Halen really has a chance because of Eddie's Guitar...This class really kind of sucks

Posted by Stan Crawford on Wednesday, 11.8.06 @ 20:35pm


Emily, are you the person who wrote that column? Because that is the only other person I have seen who wants the Ronettes in.

Even my mom, who absolutely LOVES the Ronettes, was blown away when I told her they were nominated and immediately said they weren't Rock.

I really wish that people who whie about _____ blank not being in would do a little research first because several of those mentioned (ie. U2) are already inducted.

Posted by Fred on Thursday, 11.9.06 @ 07:01am


I understand keeping the Rock Hall exclusive, but just five a year will delay inductions for some very good acts. R.E.M. and Van Halen should be slam dunks, IMHO. I'm OK with Patti Smith and the Stooges, although they'll get in mainly because of Rolling Stone magazine's (aka Jan Wenner) unfair influence over this process. To me, here are the next 10 who should go in (excluding this year's nominees):

1. John Mellencamp (if Seger's in, so should he)
2. Metallica (eligible soon)
3. Big Star (culty, like the Velvets)
4. Joy Division (ditto)
5. Def Leppard (underrated body of work)
6. Genesis (prog rock needs some love)
7. Run-DMC (when first eligible!)
8. Judas Priest (a slight nod over Iron Maiden)
9. Duran Duran ('80s pop needs some respect)
10. Fairport Convention (a folk-rock curveball!)

Posted by Henry on Friday, 11.10.06 @ 09:58am


Rush and Yes....duh!!!

Posted by Ray NJ on Friday, 11.10.06 @ 11:47am


It took long enough for Skynyrd and now you can not recognize KISS. Enough of the political correct BS

Posted by craig on Friday, 11.10.06 @ 20:58pm


I cant believe that the MIRACLES are not in the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME !! they were the beginning of THE ENTIRE MOTOWN PHENOMENON !!They were first group on the legendary label ,had MOTOWN'S first MILLION SELLER,over 50 chart hits,and BY FAR the labels most influential act, their songs having been covered by everyone from THE BEATLES ,to the STONES, to FRANK SINATRA,LINDA RONSTADT,JOHNNY RIVERS, KIM CARNES,EDDIE MONEY,CAPTAIN and TENNILLE,GLADYS KNIGHT AND THE PIPS and many others !! Most of the songs credited to their lead singer , SMOKEY ROBINSON,(who was inducted alone},were actually GROUP COMPOSITIONS ! So,why hasn't they all been inducted ?? It is a TRAVESTY THAT the RRHOF has inducted EVERY MAJOR MOTOWN GROUP (with the possible exception of the MARVELETTES) except THE ONE MOTOWN GROUP THAT STARTED IT ALL !! (

Posted by BILL GORDON on Monday, 11.13.06 @ 06:46am


Y'all MUST remember, the HOF (aka the Hall of Shame) is VERY political, which is why we'll never see the likes of, say, the Moody Blues in there. Jan Wenner has had it out for them in particular from Day 1. As for the Ronettes, Fred, your mum HAS to be under 50. Early Rock n Roll is STILL considered 'Rock' by those standards, and they deserve the nomination they got (yes, it'd be nice to see them inducted, but...same with Dave Clark Five. Most people these days have no clue as to who they were and what they did. They were only the 2nd best band to come out of England during the 2nd British Invasion, beginning in 1964)

Posted by Dreamer on Wednesday, 11.15.06 @ 13:53pm


Why were so few great artists nominated? There were at least two glaring omissions; Abba and Bread.

Posted by Paul on Friday, 11.17.06 @ 14:00pm


The Rock & Roll Hall of Farces did it again, the biggest sham in the music world. Leaving KISS off the ballot is the worst injustice to "real" music lovers around the globe. They(Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Foundation) are the most unqualified people to make these decisions about who is the most deserving and influential people in Rock and Roll History. I do not understand how they time after time keep missing the boat when it comes to KISS, it is like they personally have something against KISS, 80% of the people that are in the Hall already, are definitely not even worth a "Honorable Mention", Elvis Costello, Sex Pistols, The Ramones, need I say more. Isn't Rock & Roll supposed to have no prejudices, well Rock Hall Foundation get over yours and put a true Rock & Roll Band in the Hall for ONCE! Also thank GOD that they finally got their head out of their you know what and put Van Halen on the ballot, hopefully they don't miss the boat on this one.

Posted by ChrisD. on Monday, 11.20.06 @ 11:16am


God, you're stupid.

Posted by Kit on Monday, 11.20.06 @ 17:50pm


I would like to make a comment about the guy who said that Kiss were more deserving of a place in the hall of fame than the Sex Pistols or the Ramones. Kiss are an embaresment to the rock community and one of the main reasons why nobody metalheads are laughed at by the majority of music fans. This band sold millions of albums by repeting the riff from brown sugar over and over again and selling it to idiots. The Pistols and the Ramones (the Ramones in particular)embodied the true spirit of rock and roll and if they did not save it then certainly served it better than that pantomine drag horror act.
ps. Iron Maiden and Priest should be put in

Posted by eamonn dillon on Tuesday, 11.21.06 @ 13:38pm


What about The Cars?

Posted by Mary Sunshine on Wednesday, 11.22.06 @ 07:15am


Where's RUSH? I think RUSH has contributed %110 to the music industry. The 3 members(although not the original originals) are still together and still putting out albums and touring. And remain true to form. They just get better with age. What does it take for them to get into the r-n-r hall of shame! For them to split up, lose a member to old age, etc. I dont get it. This hall of fame is a hall of shame. Too bad

Posted by dcg on Friday, 11.24.06 @ 12:24pm


Maybe I'm getting old, but every year this whole thing frustrates me more and more. Does anyone realize that artist like Todd Rundgren & Johnny Rivers aren't even in the Hall of Fame? There are so many others deserving to be there, who are passed over all the time. Too many groups get in who don't really deserve it, or who are getting in far too soon. It seems like some "yahoos" get in as soon as they're eligable. What's frustrating about the classic older groups and artists that aren't in yet is that every year they get passed by, their chances are probably lessoned even more. I think the whole thing is kind of a joke any more.

Posted by sue on Friday, 11.24.06 @ 16:56pm


If I ran the Hall, these guys would be in:
Can, Captain Beefheart, John Coltrane (hey, if Miles is there...), Alice Cooper, Dick Dale (you have Duane Eddy but not the King of the Surf Guitar?), Donovan, Nick Drake, Brian Eno (for the love of frickin' Christ), Genesis, Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, Jac Holzman, Lightnin' Hopkins, Son House, James Jamerson (and all the Funk Brothers, for that matter), Joy Division/New Order, Carol Kaye, Kiss (not so much for its music, more for being an icon), Love, Metallica, The MC5, Ozzy Osbourne, R.E.M., Rush, Patti Smith, Cat Stevens, The Stooges, The Turtles, Van Halen (but not Van Hagar), Tony Visconti, Link Wray (how can he NOT be in there?!), the Wrecking Crew and Yes.

Borderline candidates that could go either way and may depend on swing states like Ohio:
Big Star, The Cars, Cheap Trick, Chicago, Leonard Cohen, Dave Clark Five, Deep Purple, Def Leppard, Depeche Mode, The Fall, Waylon Jennings, John Cougar Mellencamp, Judas Priest, Jim Keltner (if Hal Blaine is in...), King Crimson, Charles Mingus, The New York Dolls, Harry Nilsson, Roxy Music, The Small Faces, The Sonics, T-Rex, Tom Waits, Mary Wells and The Zombies (who recorded one of the five greatest albums of all time but lose points for Argent hehe).

Artists who would be sure-fire locks once they hit 25-year requirement:
Beastie Boys, Beck, Blur, The Cure, Guns 'n' Roses, Madonna, Nirvana, Pavement, Pearl Jam, Pixies, Public Enemy, Pulp, Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Replacements, Run DMC, The Smiths, Sonic Youth and maybe Weezer.

These guys get kicked out:
Herb Alpert, Blondie, Jackson Browne, The Eagles, Duane Eddy, The Lovin' Spoonful, maybe the Pretenders, Bonnie Raitt, The Sex Pistols, The Staple Singers, maybe Steely Dan, Ritchie Valens, The Young Rascals and ZZ Top.

Posted by Dann on Saturday, 11.25.06 @ 02:07am


P.S. The Miracles are sorta in. Smokey Robinson is there. And to the person complaining about Diana Ross being getting the shaft, the Supremes are in, too.
Diana Ross getting shafted. Gross.

Posted by Dann on Saturday, 11.25.06 @ 02:10am


the rock and roll hall of fame has done it again. why are there groups like the seventies great vocals bands. the delfonics, stylistics, the spinners or the intruders not in the hall of fame. this years list is not bad, but maybe tom waites, or donovan maybe mary wells could have made the list.

Posted by keith on Saturday, 11.25.06 @ 21:27pm


Where the hell is BOSTON?

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 11.25.06 @ 21:39pm


It's in Massachusetts.

Posted by Kit on Saturday, 11.25.06 @ 22:26pm


I'm curious about what you hard rock haters think about Guns n Roses making the Hall. Odds are that they will make it when they become eligible. Now true, they are WAY more talented than Kiss, but their some of their lyrics are along the same lines.

Posted by Earl on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 17:49pm


"These guys get kicked out:
The Eagles, The Lovin' Spoonful, The Sex Pistols"

Up yours. All three are highly influential groups and are among the biggest groups in their respective subgenres.

Posted by Jimmy on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 17:53pm


NOT putting The Guess Who in is a crime against Canada.

In Canada, the only group that even comes close to being as influential is Rush. The Band, Neil Young and Joni Mitchell are successful in the United States, but in Canada, The Guess Who are tops.

Just because they weren't a HUGE success in the States should NOT mean that they can't make the Rock Hall of Fame. They have been highly successful in the United States, with American Woman hitting #1 at a time when The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, The Beach Boys, Bob Dylan and Led Zeppelin were still releasing material.

If the Rock hall of Fame actually does go by influence and not sales and really does cover more than British or American groups, then The Guess Who should make it.

Posted by Michael on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 17:58pm


"Maybe I'm getting old, but every year this whole thing frustrates me more and more. Does anyone realize that artist like Todd Rundgren & Johnny Rivers aren't even in the Hall of Fame? There are so many others deserving to be there, who are passed over all the time. Too many groups get in who don't really deserve it, or who are getting in far too soon. It seems like some "yahoos" get in as soon as they're eligable. What's frustrating about the classic older groups and artists that aren't in yet is that every year they get passed by, their chances are probably lessoned even more. I think the whole thing is kind of a joke any more."

I could not agree more. They hall should wait a few years before inducting REM and others, because I'm still having a hard time of thinking of them as legends worthy of being alongside Elvis or The Beatles...

Posted by Joe on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 18:01pm


I guess I qualify as a hard rock hater, so I'll just go ahead and state that I am against Guns'n'Roses entering the hall, as they have made a career out of one okay album and Axl Rose being a shithead to everyone he meets. However, if they were inducted, I would definitely tune in just to say I saw the first ever Rock Hall fistfight.

Posted by Kit on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 18:21pm


And if you have a hard time recognizing REM's status as legends and innovators then...tough. Because they are. Music didn't die in 1975, you know.

Posted by Kit on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 18:22pm


"I guess I qualify as a hard rock hater, so I'll just go ahead and state that I am against Guns'n'Roses entering the hall, as they have made a career out of one okay album and Axl Rose being a shithead to everyone he meets. However, if they were inducted, I would definitely tune in just to say I saw the first ever Rock Hall fistfight."
Nah,if they get inducted then only one side will attend, most likely Axl Rose, and then Slash and the rest will skip.

Posted by John on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 18:59pm


Kit, how did you feel when AC/DC made the Hall of Fame? Some of their lyrics are along the sexual lines, but they have released many successful albums. What about Black Sabbath?

Posted by Earl on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 19:01pm


I enjoy AC/DC, there was always a touch of wit about them which put them above the troglodyte realm KISS inhabits, although I have no use for them after For Those About to Rock. Calling them innovative and influential might be a bit of a stretch.

Black Sabbath's hall credentials are unquestionable, as is Tony Iommi's guitar-playing. Their lyrics are also far above any tripe put out by Frehley and Simmons.

Posted by Kit on Monday, 11.27.06 @ 19:36pm


I used to work at the Hall and to this day I am baffled by the induction process. Jann Wenner does have it out for progressive rock. As deserving as many of the bands that have been mentioned in these rants are, you will NEVER see most of them even make the ballot. Once its comes time to go electronica, (because thats the direction rock and roll took in the early 1980's) even more folks will be pissed. No Depeche Mode or The Cure. Both very deserving. He is also pretty much a hypocrite when it comes to his reasons for certain bands making or not making the lists. On one hand, its all about influence, on the other its about popularity and sales. Hall & Oates are huge on many lists (best selling duo of all time) and a band that a whole lot of people are campaigniung for, but they will never make it, simply because of Wenner. I constantly got e-mails and letters from guests at the museum asking me where certain people were, and why they were not inducted. It was frustrating then and it still is today, almost 6 years after the fact. Keep the debates alive!! Once all these crotchety old whiners that are in charge of the Hall are dead, our generation can make the changes the Rock Hall needs to regain its crdebility. As for now...

Posted by b on Tuesday, 11.28.06 @ 00:44am


one more for ya... from wikipedia.

enjoy.

The main criticism is that the induction process is controlled by a few individuals, such as founder Jann Wenner, former foundation director Suzan Evans, and writer Dave Marsh, reflecting their tastes rather than the views of the rock world as a whole. A former member of the nominations board once said: "At one point Suzan Evans lamented the choices being made because there weren't enough big names that would sell tickets to the dinner. That was quickly remedied by dropping one of the doo-wop groups being considered in favor of a 'name' artist ... I saw how certain pioneering artists of the 50s and early 60s were shunned because there needed to be more name power on the list, resulting in 70s superstars getting in before the people who made it possible for them. Some of those pioneers still aren't in today — but Queen is." Petitions with tens of thousands of signatures were also being ignored and some groups that were signed with certain labels or companies or were affiliated with various committee members have even been put up for nomination with no discussion at all.[1]

There are also very few progressive rock, hard rock or heavy metal bands in the hall. To date, the only progressive rock band inducted was Pink Floyd in 1996; the only hard rock bands that have been inducted are Led Zeppelin in 1995, Aerosmith and Queen in 2001, AC/DC in 2003, and Black Sabbath in 2006.

After the 2007 nominations were announced, it was immediately noticed that there were only 9 nominees. Up until that year, the fewest nominees there had ever been in one year was 13. The Rock Hall also officially announced that 5 of those 9 would be inducted. This has led to the belief that the low number of nominees is due to the nominations committee trying to muscle the voters into inducting a few certain candidates.

The Sex Pistols, inducted in 2006, refused to attend the ceremony, calling the museum a "piss stain". [2]

Posted by b on Tuesday, 11.28.06 @ 00:49am


Hey... I wrote that! Sweeeet!

Posted by Natey on Tuesday, 11.28.06 @ 01:26am


Specifically, I wrote the first and third paragraphs, still cool though,

Posted by Natey on Tuesday, 11.28.06 @ 01:29am


well done natey! just goes to show that all of this ranting is based entirely on truth. how incredibly selfish can those morons be to only induct big names and genres that they like. i guess i will start my own hall of fame.

Posted by b on Tuesday, 11.28.06 @ 14:45pm


I might be totally laughed at, but how about inducting Jeff Lynne? He was a member of influential groups such as Idle Race and The Move, before fronting one of the biggest bands of the 70's, Electric Light Orchestra. Then, he went on to produce and co-write some of the biggest comeback albums of the 80's for George Harrison, Roy Orbison, and Tom Petty, all of whom are in the Hall of Fame.

Posted by Jambone on Wednesday, 11.29.06 @ 13:19pm


"I might be totally laughed at, but how about inducting Jeff Lynne?"

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Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 11.29.06 @ 21:27pm


I'd just like to say that the above comment wasn't me and that I like Jeff Lynne. Not enough for an induction, but still, maybe we could throw a bone at ELO somewhere down the road.

I'm flattered someone would imitate me and all, but yeah...no.

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 11.30.06 @ 09:36am


Let me throw another name in the mix: TOTO. They'll be celebrating 30 years of making great music next year and theyare such incredible musicians, its ridiculous!!!
Having said that, Genesis, the Cure, Joy Division, Duran Duran, Kraftwerk and Rush among others should have already be in.
A can someone explainto me why Jann Wenner has agaisnt prog music?!?!!?

Posted by Joseph on Friday, 12.1.06 @ 09:50am


I'm not entirely sure on this, but wasn't it Wenner who wrote the famous ELP review in which he likened Prog to "grafting a hairbrush onto a tomato"?

Posted by Kit on Friday, 12.1.06 @ 11:10am


Kit, that comment about Emerson, Lake & Palmer came from John Peel, not Jann Wenner.

Posted by c.w. on Friday, 12.1.06 @ 13:19pm


Thanks for setting me straight, c.w.

I think that quote reflects the mainstream's view on prog. The flourishes and deviances that make something proggy are deemed pretentious and un-rock'n'roll. Pink Floyd, whose experimentation absolutely pales when compared to King Crimson and ELP, are the only prog band in, and unfortunately I see it remaining that way for quite a while.

Posted by Kit on Friday, 12.1.06 @ 13:50pm


Kit, thanks for not laughing at my Jeff Lynne suggestion, and I'm glad you like him as well, because all of my friends have no idea who he is. Maybe he's not as influential as previous inductees, but how does a group like The Pretenders or Blondie get in with no problem, and JL doesn't even get nominated?

Anyway, if R.E.M. does not get in, I'll never watch a Hall of Fame ceremony again!

Posted by Jambone on Saturday, 12.2.06 @ 19:05pm


Blondie was a huge player on the New Wave scene. The Pretenders, in addition to being one of my favorite bands ever, had one of the great innovators at the guitar in James Honeyman-Scott, whose use of delay pedals would later be copied en masse, most notably by The Edge of U2. Also, Chrissy Hynde and Deborah Harry stand as two of the greatest frontwomen of rock history. That said, I probably would've waited a year on Blondie.

Lynne probably won't go in because of the anti-prog bias throughout the critical community which affects ELO dearly, them being on the second tier of prog after KC, Genesis, ELP, et al. You might have a case for nominatin him as a producer, though. Is the 25 years up on that?

Posted by Kit on Saturday, 12.2.06 @ 20:39pm


"Blondie was a huge player on the New Wave scene"

Yeah, and KISS was a huge player on the metal/glam rock scene. If we're just going by huge players, then KISS would have been in long ago.

Posted by Brian Boitano on Saturday, 12.2.06 @ 21:46pm


Generally speaking, New Wave/post-punk gets much more respect than metal/glam rock.

Kiss were also one of the last to get in on the original glam-rock, well behind Bowie, T-Rex, Alice Cooper, and Mott the Hoople.

Posted by Kit on Saturday, 12.2.06 @ 21:49pm


Kit, you seem to be one of the more knowledgeable people here, so I'm curious as to what you think of The Guess Who making it. Like I said in my post above, they may not have been huge in the States, but they are HUGE in Canada and the Rock Hall shouldn't just judge by influence in the States

Posted by Michael on Saturday, 12.2.06 @ 21:55pm


Thanks you for your kind words. I've always viewed The Guess Who as an unremarkable and average band, but I really can't speak as to their influence in Canada, being Texas-born and bred.

As far as Canadian bands go, I much prefer the Tragically Hip and Cowboy Junkies.

Posted by Kit on Saturday, 12.2.06 @ 22:09pm


The Hip have no chance. They are huge in Canada (in Rock, they are really only behind The Guess Who, Rush and Bryan Adams) but virtually unknown in the United States and its the States that really matters.

Posted by Michael on Saturday, 12.2.06 @ 22:51pm


Next to Pink Floyd the band who has had the greatest success as a prog band is Yes. It's funny how some of you guys mention every major prog band but Yes. Jethro Tull also isn't in there either. As for Rush they should be in there too. Also, The Guess who bigger than Rush? No way! Rush are far and away the biggest selling Canadian band in history. The R&R Hall of Fame is really just a club for elitist music snobs in the music industry. I'd say groups should be proud of themselves if they aren't in there.

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 12.3.06 @ 18:14pm


In Canada, Rush and Guess Who are about equal in terms of popularity, but going on influence (which is how the Rock Hall claims to do things by), the Guess Who is far above Rush in Canada.

Posted by Michael on Sunday, 12.3.06 @ 22:03pm


I'm curious as to why so many of the record big wigs and Hall of Fame insiders hate Prog Rock so much? Pink Floyd and Rush were both HUGE sellers so it can't be that they didn't generate enough money.

Posted by James on Monday, 12.4.06 @ 18:09pm


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Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 12.5.06 @ 17:53pm


What bigger band was there for us Generation x'ers growing up in the 70's than "KISS"?

In the 80's it was "Van Halen" and "Def Leppard" and for those of us on a smaller scale who comprehended the pure appreciation of "Talent" there was "Rush"!

When the day presents itself when U2 in in....."The Alarm" must be on the same stage, because they were just as political and important, and often imitated.

For us METAL-HEADS.........

Maiden and the priest, but that will never happen for a long, long time,if ever, but should.

Bottom line.....the fact that "KISS" is not in is for the opposite reason why the pistols are in, because without "KISS".......the 70's would of been boring,eh?



Posted by Chuck on Wednesday, 12.6.06 @ 01:23am


FOR THE PERSON WHO SAID " THE MIRACLES ARE SORTA IN" PLEASE REMEMBER...YOU'RE EITHER IN, OR YOU'RE NOT IN.THERE'S NO IN BETWEEN. CURTIS MAYFIELD WAS INDUCTED AS A SOLO ARTIST... BUT HIS GROUP, THE IMPRESSIONS (INCLUDING ORIGINAL LEAD SINGER JERRY BUTLER ) WERE INDUCTED TOO . MICHAEL JACKSON WAS INDUCTED AS A SOLO, BUT HIS GROUP, HIS BROTHERS, THE JACKSON 5 , WERE ALSO SEPARATELY INDUCTED. EACH INDIVIDUAL BEATLE ...AS WELL AS THE GROUP ITSELF ,ARE IN THE HALL...IF THESE GROUPS CAN BE INDUCTED,APART FROM AND INCLUDING THEIR INDUCTED LEAD SINGERS , WHY NOT THE MIRACLES ? WITHOUT THEM,THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO MOTOWN.... AND NONE OF THOSE OTHER GROUPS (TEMPS , TOPS, SUPREMES ,ETC, WOULD HAVE EVEN FOUND FAME... OR AT LEAST NOT TO THE EXTENT TO WHICH THEY DID .THE MIRACLES PUT MOTOWN ON THE MAP. MEMBERS OF THE MIRACLES ACTUALLY DISCOVERED THE SUPREMES AND STEVIE WONDER... AND WROTE FOR MARY WELLS , THE TEMPTATIONS { 9 OF THEIR FIRST 12 HITS WERE WRITTEN BY THE MIRACLES , INCLUDING "MY GIRL" "THE WAY YOU DO THE THINGS YOU DO ",SINCE I LOST MY BABY" AND "GET READY " AMONG OTHERS), MARVIN GAYE,THE MARVELETTES,THE FOUR TOPS,AND MANY OTHERS ...ALL OF THEM HAD A SHARE IN WRITING THESE SONGS, NOT JUST SMOKEY.IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, JUST READ THE WRITING CREDITS ON THE LABELS !! THE MIRACLES WERE THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT GROUP ON THE MOTOWN LABEL AND ARE QUITE POSSIBLY THE SINGLE MOST DESERVING GROUP NOT CURRENTLY INDUCTED. ASK BERRY GORDY WHERE HE -AND MOTOWN- WOULD BE TODAY WITHOUT THEM !!!

Posted by BILL GORDON on Wednesday, 12.6.06 @ 23:57pm


Oh... and one more thing - 2007 will mark the 50th anniversary of the MIRACLES...BILL "SMOKEY ROBINSON,BOBBY ROGERS,WARREN "PETE" MOORE,THE LATE RONNIE WHITE,CLAUDETTE ROGERS ROBINSON, AND MARV TARPLIN...AND SOME OF YOU GUYS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT 70'S BANDS THAT AREN'T IN YET ?!!

Posted by bill g on Thursday, 12.7.06 @ 07:50am


You can argue the same about The Comets not being in while Bill Haley was inducted in 1987. From what I've read about the Hall of Fame through various books and articles, the early years had a number of acts where the 'supporting' band was brushed aside as they weren't considered critical to the bigger picture of the Hall of Fame. Also, Mayfield, McCartney, Lennon, Harrison, Young, etc. were put in individually based on the music they composed outside of the HOF bands they were put in for, not because of those bands (at least in theory).

Posted by Tomer C on Friday, 12.8.06 @ 13:47pm


THE MIRACLES WERE FAR MORE THAN JUST BACKGROUND SINGERS FOR SMOKEY.... REMEMBER, FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS OF THEIR EXISTANCE THEY WERE COLLECTIVELY KNOWN AS "THE MIRACLES " .... NOT "SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES " .... AND THEY WERE THE ONLY MOTOWN GROUP WHERE ALL OF THE MEMBERS WERE SONGWRITERS AND HAD A SHARE IN WRITING THEIR MANY HITS . NO OTHER MOTOWN GROUP DURING THE COMPANY'S GOLDEN ERA CAN MAKE THAT CLAIM....LOOK AT THE FOUR TOPS , TEMPTATIONS , AND SUPREMES...NOT A SINGLE SONGWRITER AMONG THEM {EXCEPT THE TOPS' LAWRENCE PAYTON}.THE IMPRESSIONS WEREN'T SONG WRITERS EITHER .... ONLY THEIR LEAD SINGERS ...JERRY BUTLER AND CURTIS MAYFIELD WERE...YET ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THESE RESPECTIVE GROUPS ARE IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME...THE MIRACLES ARE NOTHING LIKE THE COMETS.THEY WERE A GROUP ... NOT JUST " SMOKEY ROBINSON'S BACKGROUND SINGERS" .IN FACT , IN THE EARLY DAYS , THEY EVEN SHARED LEADS!! THE MIRACLES- THE GROUP (NOT JUST SMOKEY}- WROTE THEIR OWN HITS,THE TEMPTATIONS'HITS ,HITS BY MARY WELLS,THE CONTOURS,MARVIN GAYE,BRENDA HOLLOWAY,THE MARVELETTES,KIM WESTON,AND MANY OTHER MOTOWN AND NON- MOTOWN ARTISTS.THE BEATLES EVEN CONSIDERED THEM ONE OF THEIR FAVORITE GROUPS !!(THEY EVEN RECORDED THE MIRACLES TOP 10 SMASH,"YOU REALLY GOT A HOLD ON ME "}. MOTOWN RECORDS HAS JUST INTRODUCED A BRAND NEW "DEFINITIVE DVD SERIES " ON THEIR TOP ARTISTS .I SUGGEST YOU GET THE ONE ON THE MIRACLES...AND WATCH IT ,(IT'S AVAILABLE ON AMAZON},AND THEN READ ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS GROUP.... YOU'LL SEE WHAT I MEAN.

Posted by Bill G on Friday, 12.8.06 @ 20:10pm


i think its a joke because theyre nomitating a hip-hop group

Posted by curt on Sunday, 12.10.06 @ 09:45am


Bill G,

I'm not saying you're not right, I'm just saying that the R&R HOF didn't put in bands they deemed as being 'supporting' back in the day. For whatever reason (maybe there were politics involved in keeping the Miracles out like the Ronettes with Phil Spector), the R&R HOF felt that only Smokey Robinson was worthy of induction. I'm not denying what you're saying, just saying that they didn't put them in because they felt (or were advised by someone) that the Miracles weren't much more than a 'supporting' group to Smokey.

Posted by Tomer C on Sunday, 12.10.06 @ 10:24am


Tomer C, If what you say is true ,then that's a real shame, and the RRHOF really needs to re-examine their policy because so many great and deserving artists , especally in the r@b field (and remember, rock and roll sprang from r&b ),have been completely ignored....such as LITTLE ANTHONY AND THE IMPERIALS,THE SPINNERS,JUNIOR WALKER AND THE ALL STARS (ANOTHER GREAT MOTOWN GROUP) THE MARVELETTES (THEM TOO), MARY WELLS,and many more... it's just that the MIRACLES are one of the most GLARING examples of this prejudice. One of the HALL'S most important criteria is "influence".... you can't get more influential than the MIRACLES...THEY WERE THE SPARK THAT LIT THE WORLDWIDE EXPLOSION KNOWN AS THE "MOTOWN SOUND ",and the BASIS AND BEDROCK UPON WHICH BERRY GORDY BUILT HIS LEGENDARY LABEL !!In addition to the aforementioned BEATLES who cited them as an influence,BOB MARLEY also cited them as one as well...saying that they and the IMPRESSIONS were among the most important American groups influencing THE WAILERS' style...their hits have become legendary... the soundtrack to the lives of many Americans.The 1st guitar licks of their million-seller "THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS" are universally known...once you hear them..wherever you are, you KNOW what song it is !! Film Producer OLIVER STONE was so moved by his personal experience with that song in Viet Nam , that he incorporated it into his film "PLATOON".LINDA RONSTADT , JOHNNY RIVERS,and ARETHA FRANKLIN ALL had major hits with it. MICK JAGGER AND PETER TOSH (of the WAILERS}had a major hit with THE TEMPTATIONS'1966 hit "DON'T LOOK BACK" which was written by 2 of the MIRACLES.Their hit "WHO'S LOVING YOU" has been covered by THE JACKSON FIVE, EN VOGUE, AND TERRENCE TRENT- D'ARBY. KIM CARNES recorded their hit "MORE LOVE".The Captain and Tennille had a major hit with THE MIRACLES 1st million seller "SHOP AROUND"... which , by the way, was the first million selling record ever made by the MOTOWN RECORD CORPORATION.the STONES re- recorded their 1966 smash "GOING TO A GO-GO "...THE BEATLES, as I said before, recorded their 1962 top 10 hit "YOU REALLY GOT A HOLD ON ME"...RONSTADT, (and many others}, also covered their 1965 hit "OOO BABY BABY" ( which she mis-spelled as "OOH BABY BABY").There are numerous other examples. THE MIRACLES ARE BY FAR THE MOST COVERED OF ALL MOTOWN'S GROUPS, AND BOB DYLAN HAS BEEN WIDELY QUOTED AS CALLING their lead singer SMOKEY ROBINSON "TODAY'S GREATEST LIVING POET"....{ a quote that was later changed by "others" to TODAY'S GREATEST LIVING "AMERICAN" POET}.But SMOKEY didn't write all those songs by himself. THE LAST NAMES OF ROBINSON,ROGERS,MOORE ,WHITE,AND TARPLIN (THE MIRACLES} are on the writing credits of literally SCORES OF HITS ,by dozens of different artists...many of which are probably in your record collection!! two of MARVIN GAYE'S all- time biggest hits," AIN'T THAT PECULIAR,and I'LL BE DOGGONE" WERE WRITTEN BY THEM,AND AS I SAID BEFORE 9 OF THE TEMPTATIONS FIRST HITS... INCLUDING THE CLASSICS "MY GIRL" "THE WAY YOU DO THE THINGS YOU DO","GET READY" "IT'S GROWING",AND "SINCE I LOST MY BABY" WERE WRITTEN BY THE MIRACLES.THEIR OWN MULTI -MILLION SELLING #1 SMASH "LOVE MACHINE" (which SMOKEY had NOTHING to do with the writing of ,because he was out of the group by then, was also a MIRACLES composition. With all these facts,is there anyone who doubts that THE MIRACLES DON'T DESERVE RRHOF INDUCTION ? WITH ALL THAT TALENT, HOW CAN YOU INDUCT ONLY ONE MEMBER OF THE GROUP? ESPECIALLY SINCE MANY OF THE ARTISTS THAT ARE INDUCTEES NEVER WROTE A SINGLE LYRIC OF MUSIC ? AND , IF THEY DON'T SEE IT, THE RRHOF INDUCTION COMMITTEE HAS A LOT OF RESEARCH TO DO !!

Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 12.10.06 @ 19:02pm


P.S. FOR A PARTIAL LIST OF OTHER MIRACLES SONGS COVERED BY OTHERS ...CHECK OUT THIS WEBSITE :http://www.coversproject.com/artist/smokey%20robinson%20and%20the%20miracles ALSO,DON'T FORGET THE NEW MOTOWN DVD : SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES : THE DEFINITIVE DVD COLLECTION...IT'S AVAILABLE ON AMAZON & MANY OTHER RETAIL OUTLETS.

Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 12.10.06 @ 22:59pm


So many lesser known acts that haven't been inducted (or nominated this year) but are MUSTS. Huge oversights by the committee:

Chronologically:

1. Leonard Cohen, elligible since 1993 - For anyone that hasn't heard The Essential Leonard Cohen, purchase or download it immediately. Seemingly on par with Dylan, and hopefully the I'm Your Man film will help his chances of induction.

2. Nick Drake, elligible since 1994 - Ummm, how on earth....

3. ABBA, elligible since 1998 - Come on now. A huge must. The biggest cheesy pop/dance influence on rockers.

4. Tom Waits, elligible since 1998 - Not a huge fan by any means, but his influence can't be understated.

5. Brian Eno, elligible since 1999: What the ####? Not only are his solo albums HUGE breakthroughs for all sorts of genres, but he produced seminal albums from a various array of Hall Of Fame artists.

6. Television, elligible since 2002 - As groundbreaking as The Velvet Underground.

7. The Jam, elligible since 2002 - Huge pop punk revolutionaries. Amazing string of hit singles.

8. Joy Division, elligible since 2003 - Probably the largest oversight thus far.

9. The Cars, elligible since 2003 - Seminal run of singles, great debut, BIG influence.

10. New Order, elligible since 2006 - Gods.

11. The Replacements, elligible since 2006 - As influential as R.E.M. yet Chic is a nominee this year? Another important step in punk rock that can't be overlooked.

12. Mission Of Burma, elligible since 2006 - See Replacements.

Posted by Casper on Monday, 12.11.06 @ 02:16am


All of you that think Def Leppard should be inducted are nimwits. And as for letting bands like Chic, Grandmaster Flash, and the Ronettes in, is bullcrap. This is the Rock Hall of Fame, not the disco, pop, or hip hop all of fame. And for some reason, over the years, they have failed to induct a certian band called, oh i dont know......... T REXXX!!!!!! This just shows how stupid and unknowledgable the people in the rock hall of fame and some of these commenters are. If you have not listened to T Rex, then listen to them and give them a good listen to. They have influenced everyone from David Bowie to Van Halen. For me here is the top 5 bands i would induct.

1. T Rex
2. Yes
3. The Stooges
4. Moody Blues
5. Link Wray (most definently.)

So there they are, those are my bands I would induct without thinking real hard. Oh and by the way, Ozzy Osbourn's solo career and most metal bands should not be inducted. Ozzy had a descent solo career with a few memoriable songs and that was it. It is obvious most commenters are in on the resurgence of metal fad which is dumb. Anyways, that is it.

Posted by Augustus123 on Friday, 12.15.06 @ 22:52pm


If anybody should be nominated, it's Tom Dowd, who was an engineer/producer for Atlantic Records from the early 50' until the early 70's. He went independent after that. He engineered such hits as
"Respect",by Aretha Franklin, "Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay",by Otis Redding, "Sunshine of You Love"
and "White Room", by Cream, "Layla",by Derek&theDominos, "Blue Sky",by The Allman Brothers Band,the list goes into the hundreds of hits he has made. He should have been nominated when Ahmet Ertegun and Jerry Wexler were. Where's the justice in that? Come on people, do the right thing!

Posted by Robbie Mac on Saturday, 12.16.06 @ 13:39pm


Failing to induct the following eligible artists
into R & R hall of fame is the sports equivalent
of Lou Gehrig or Ted Wiliiams not being inducted
into the Baseball hall. While not the pinnacle of
their chosen paths,they posses the needed qualities such as influence,popularity,big numbers and of course FAME.
1. Van Halen
2. Rush
3. Alice Cooper
4. John Mellencamp
5. R.E.M.






Posted by franc p on Tuesday, 12.19.06 @ 20:03pm


About time The Dave Clark 5 is being nominated...they have sold more than 50 million albums world wide...with more than 10 hits songs...other groups that made the hall like Buffalo Springfield are a joke..I think more British Invasions rock bands should be in the hall after all they did re-invent rock in the 1960's.

Posted by quezada on Monday, 12.25.06 @ 08:21am


Sales are not a criteria for the Hall and Buffalo Springfield was a highly influential collaboration of legends. Shut your typers.

Posted by Kit on Monday, 12.25.06 @ 12:51pm


They claim that sales are not a criteria, but they clearly are. Look at the Sex Pistols, they are easily one of the most influential groups in Punk, but it took them 7 years to get inducted because they were never very good sellers.

No matter how much they deny it, names will always get inducted before the true influences. More evidence is the fact that REM is going to get in before many of the groups that served as influence to them.

Posted by Billy on Tuesday, 12.26.06 @ 17:31pm


On the other hand, you can point to The Velvet Underground getting in with probably even less record sales than the Sex Pistols did as an example where sales wasn't a significant remember.

In this article ( http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/music_geek/rockhallfame_040405/ ) on the R&R HOF that there was a senior voter (nominating committee member) who apparently was pissed off at the Pistols for some reason (the claim was that Rotten probably called him a pig or some other derogative remark) and continually tried to stop their nominations and elections for years.

I tend to subscribe with the theory in the listed article that the real issues with some less than great candidates getting pushed ahead has to do with the politics of the nominating & voting committees more than any logic basis. Even if there is stringent voting criteria, if you really want to avoid voting for someone you'll find a way to avoid voting for them (or getting them nominated).

Posted by Tomer C on Tuesday, 12.26.06 @ 20:00pm


Okay, there are a few exceptions, but most of the time, they go with "names" who will get them headlines and sell tickets. They waited seven years for the Sex PIstols and it paid off with that controversy that gave the hall lots of press.

And, they let politics influence them and that's worse than going by sales. For example, I love ZZ Top, but they are hardly genre defining or highly influential and whether they belong in there before many other groups, and whether they belong there at all is debateable.

I don't think Hall of Fame nominees should be decided by a small committee. That's how the Hockey Hall of Fame does it, and (especially in recent years) there have been several glaring omissions and several offensive inductees.

Why not do it the way the Baseball Hall of Fame does it and have a bunch of writers decide the nominees? That way, less politics would be involved and we would see more fan favourites involved.

Let's face it, the only reason several of the groups are nominated this year (or in previous years) is because the RRHOF is putting strong (but not lock) candidates against weak candidates in order to see them inducted.

Posted by Billy on Wednesday, 12.27.06 @ 08:52am


WHY THERE'S NO CARPENTERS IN THE LIST? ROCK AND ROLL IS INCOMPLETE FOR ME WITHOUT THE MUSIC OF THE GREAT KAREN AND RICHARD.THEY DOMINATED THE CHART AND THE #1 AMERICAN GROUP IN THE 70s.SOLD 100 MILLIONS OF RECORD WORLDWIDE.

Posted by JOEL C. LEOPANDO on Thursday, 12.28.06 @ 07:31am


The rock and roll hall of fame is some kind of a joke at times.There are many groups that have laid down fountation for manys sounds we hear today and yet they still are not mentioned.The orignal line-up of the band"Chicago" had major hits on the radio,mixed many styles with rock and roll and horn arrangments is one of those bands.And still to this day has young musicians wanting to pick up a brass or wind instrument and play in a band because of songs like "Make me smile" and "25 or 6 to 4".And their one of america's biggest bands.

Posted by darrell echols sr on Thursday, 12.28.06 @ 19:12pm


JAMES BROWN IS GONE . THE WORLD OF MUSIC WILL NEVER BE THE SAME . REST IN PEACE , "MR DYNAMITE".THE HARDEST WORKING MAN IN SHOW BUSINESS. ONE OF THE FIRST RRHOF INDUCTEES, NOW IF THEY'LL ONLY INDUCT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF HIS ORIGINAL SINGING GROUP, THE FAMOUS FLAMES ... {BOBBY BENNETT,THE LATE LLOYD STALLWORTH, JOHNNY TERRY AND THE GREAT BOBBY BYRD )THEY TOTALLY KILLED THE ROLLING STONES ON THE T.A.M.I SHOW CONCERT FILM !! DON'T BELIEVE IT? GET THE DVD AT THE VIDEO BEAT.COM !!

Posted by bill g on Thursday, 12.28.06 @ 19:41pm


The "un-countable amount of fortunes" question: Why isn't Rush on the ballot? over 30 years, most influencial drummer of all time, the inclusion of synthisers (sp?) to rock, and the most under-rated guitar solos I've ever seen. Need I say more?

Posted by Matt on Thursday, 12.28.06 @ 23:21pm


Jesus Christ, that guy who writes in capital letters is bloody annoying... But not as annoying as those fans who think KISS as a Hall of fame worthy band!

Posted by Kit on Friday, 12.29.06 @ 14:25pm


Okay, enough with the people who aren't me using my name.

Posted by Kit on Friday, 12.29.06 @ 15:26pm


Van Halen deserves to be there period. Eddie's guitar playing makes them worthy of that.

KISS deserves to be there like them or not just for there influence alone. They sold a whole lot of records. Yes they over the years have had a revolving door of members come and go, but loads of people bought the records. They didn't just dissapear into a huge whole somewhere.

Groups like Grandmaster Flash are not Rock. Abba is not rock. The BeeGees are not Rock. The Village People are not Rock. Any other acts of the like or same in statue are not Rock by any means!!!!

These people that are letting acts in just to let them in are what is giving the hall a bad name.

I have been Calling it the Rock & Roll Hall Of Shame for years and years now. I mean come on Andy Gibb is Rock!!! I know some of the acts I talk about are not in but you see my point I use them to illistrate my point.

Like Ted Templeman said in Unchained to David Lee Roth....."Come on Dave, Give me a break....." I say to the Rock Hall...... "Come on Give me a break."

Posted by Guitarman on Saturday, 12.30.06 @ 17:07pm


The nominees this year are not very good. Other than Van Halen and REM, I don't know that any of these folks belong in the Rock Hall. I really hope next year they do the right thing and induct Yes, Genesis, Rush, ELP, Kansas and Jethro Tull, but then hell won't freeze over again, now will it. What a shame, I love the museum itself, but the whole process of inducting the musicians just sucks. As a Clevelander, I'm also pissed that the induction ceremony is held in NYC every year. The museum is HERE, the ceremony should be here too!

Sorry for the venting, but after 10 years of the "class of XXXX" getting worse and worse, I needed to get that off my chest!

Posted by Bob on Sunday, 12.31.06 @ 17:29pm


I'd say Van Halen, REM, Patti Smith and The Stooges are all worthy, although Patti Smith and The Stooges needed a weak year of nominations in order to get inducted. As for number 5, who cares? It will just be some crappy group with good connections.

Posted by Chuck on Monday, 01.1.07 @ 15:24pm


I can't believe the Stooges and Patti Smith aren't even in yet! [Patti should be in for "Horses" alone -- spare me "Because The Night" and all that.]

REM is alright; good to see some alt. rock coming into the Hall. :]

Van Halen is undeniably rock, and NOTHING but rock but I don't see ANY influence -- "they inspired me to pick up a guitar for, just for the girls, and then throw the damn thing under my bed because I couldn't play like EVH in two months."

On the other hand, Grandmaster Flash is faaar from rock, but heavily influential. Back when mainstream rap was akin to punk rock -- back when it MEANT something.

The Dave Clark Five are a fun listen, good British Invasion pop-rock... but The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, The Kinks, and The Small Faces (by the way, where are they?) OWNED them. Same thing with the Ronnettes -- nice to hear, catchy pop songs... but nothing going for them, really, other than having a few hits.

Chic, Joe Tex -- whaaat? Not when there are SO, so many glaring omissions.

...

Alice Cooper and Bowie practically invented KISS aesthetic. Personally, I'm not particularly interested in seeing Cooper get in any time soon (oh, but someday)... but DEFINITELY him over KISS, period. Cooper at least had a bit of rock 'n' roll credibility; KISS produced wank for the sole reason to sell. WTF!

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Posted by bleedin' quadrophenic on Wednesday, 01.3.07 @ 18:35pm


Paris Hilton should be inducted.

I'm serious, she is VERY talented and a better singer than Elvis Costello

Posted by sKit on Friday, 01.5.07 @ 13:11pm


WHAT ABOUT THE ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA

Posted by ROBERT on Saturday, 01.6.07 @ 07:32am


I got my cock in my pocket and I'm cruisin down the old highway

Posted by Iggy on Saturday, 01.6.07 @ 19:58pm


Yes, Why not TOTO?

They're still going strong after 30 years and still putting out AMAZING music. Their last album, "Falling in Between" was released in February, 2006, and is WAY together.

Posted by Shawn on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 11:45am


EVEN AFTER THE MARCH THE KISS FANS HAD OUT IN FRONT OF THE HALL OF FAME! STILL NO KISS THE PEOPLE AT THE HALL EVEN PLAYED ROCK N ROLL ALL NITE THROUGH THEIR LOUD SPEAKERS! IF YOUR GONNA PLAY THEIR MUSIC LET THEM IN OR DON'T PLAY IT! KISS IS ONE OF THE TOP SELLING BANDS IN THE WORLD THE #1 GOLD RECORD CHAMPIONS OF AMERICA(THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT WAS NOT ENDORSED BY GENE SIMMONS IN ANY WAY!) AND STILL NO KISS! IF WE MARCH IN FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING LET ARE ####ING BAND IN YOUR CLUB ASSHOLES YOU DON'T SEE A ####ING R.E.M. ARMY RALLY IN FRONT OF YOUR DAMN BUILDING I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS THE GUYS THAT RUN THE PIECE OF SHIT HALL ARE ALL A BUNCH OF OLD ####S THAT DONT WANT A BAND THAT WEARS MORE MAKE UP AND HIGHER HEELS THAN THEIR MOMMY DOES IN THEIR CLUB!(THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT WAS ALSO NOT ENDORSED BY GENE SIMMONS IN ANY WAY!) LET OUR DAMN BAND IN!
P.S. KISS IS BETTER THAN AEROSMITH AND VAN HALEN PUT TOGETHER(DONT GET ME WRONG I LIKE THEM BOTH)BUT MAN COME ON GENE SIMMONS DISCOVERED VAN HALEN HELL HE PRODUCED THE DEMO THAT GOT THEM SIGNED AND WHEN KISS HAS TO OPEN FOR AEROSMITH WHO PUTS ON A LACKLUSTER SHOW AND BASICALLY GETS BOOED OFF THE STAGE! #### YOU YOU KNOW WHAT WE DONT WANT IN YOUR CLUB WE HAVE OUR OWN CLUB AND ITS BETTER THAN YOU COULD DREAM OF ITS CALLED THE MOTHER ####ING BABY!

Posted by Tommy Walter on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 01:44am


Proof that constant exposure to Kiss is brain damaging.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 02:38am


A lot of interesting opinions here.

Having been a music industry journalist/radio DJ/music TV guy for 30 years and also running an annual awards ceremony for much of the 90s (NOT RNRHOF)...I can attest to the pressure to balance those truly deserving recognition with those who will attract attention/sell tickets/make headlines/attract advertising bucks. Unfortunately, any organization loses credibility as it actually caves and inducts any non-deserving nominee who was nominated largely to "suck up" either to industy members or the public.

I think part of the problem that the R&R Hall of Fame has is in the way it runs it's process....announing the winners/inductees BEFOREHAND. They should keep the winners a mystery untl the induction ceremony in order to get the most press and money out of their "suck up" nominations...and THEN on the induction night ONLY PICK REAL DESERVING WINNERS. Right now, they do it backwards and it forces them to pick some weak inductees to "sell tickets," to put it simply.

That said....I may as well chime n about a few of my hopes for furture inductees:

1) I AM NOT A KISS FAN...but I see them as influencial, NOT MUSICALLY but rather in MUSIC MARKETING. I cannot think of a musical artist that has been more adept at showing the industry HOW TO TURN A BAND NAME INTO A BRAND. THAT is why I think they should be in and their induction should clearly state this.


2) I believe Cheap Trick deserves a nod because they (and Frampton) broke open the industry trend that a killer live set released as a double album could break a new act internationally. They were the first to make "Budokan" a household name for record buyers as a place where great rock concerts took place in Japan. The band is still rocking after 30 albums and possibly the best example of the power pop genre. They also jumped into the movie/TV soundtrack/theme songs niche very early as well. Hell, they even backed John Lennon on some of his solo work.

3) I agree progrock and metal is snubbed by the Hall. A real shame. My nominees would be King Crimson/Fripp, YES and maybe Moody Blues and Kraftwerk for the prog....For metal/hard rock Deep Purple (innovators,) Judas Priest (metal's dual guitar/falsetto originators,) RUSH (to shut up the Canadians and as the metal/prog standard) Alice Cooper (major theatrical rock influence) and Iron Maiden (as influencila leadrs of the New Wave of Britich Neavy Metal). Def Lepp because they are the best example of metal that was marketed at women. not men.

4) 50s stuff...Link Wray

5) 60s stuff...the Hollies...The Zomnies...Dick Dale

6) 70s stuff...The Cars and Big Star

5) FolkRock/Country Rock...Gram Parsons (solo), John Melloncamp (but nominate him as "Cougar" to get a good brawl going) and Fairport Convention.

6) black artists...Lightnin' Hopkins and Sun House (blues) ...The Miracles (schMoTown.)

I ALSO THINK THAT INDUCTING RAP & HIP HOP WILL HAPPEN...although I may disagree with that unless they change the name from ROCK & ROLL Hall of Fame. Outside of the crossing of rap with rock as in the genre-bending remake of Aerosmith's "Walk This Way" by RunDMC or something as musically monumental...I object.

Posted by JM on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 03:23am


The Hall has announced its inductions:
R.E.M.
Van Halen
Patti Smith
Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five
The Ronettes

R.E.M. and Van Halen definitely belong, especially R.E.M., and probably Grandmaster Flash also, and maybe Patti Smith. The Ronettes, however, only had a few hits, and were not very influential, so they're a questionable choice.

If I'm not mistaken, neither the Clovers nor Donna Summer have been inducted yet, and both are worthy, so they should have at least been on the ballot. How did Chic make the ballot ahead of Donna Summer?

Posted by Brian on Tuesday, 01.9.07 @ 08:50am


The pressures of appeasing the infotainment moguls makes for a continuation of the policy of "safe and balanced' choices for the Hall that ignore history and so many groups and artists that not only influenced Rock music but in their day were incredibly popular. Where are:

Donovan: Less influential and consequential than the Ronettes?
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers but no Cat Stevens?
Where are the Grateful Dead, David Bromberg, Leonard Cohen?
Bob Seger is more deserving than these true superstars and artistic giants?

And where is Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band often give credit for being at the Vanguard of New Wave Punk and alternative music?

No Velvet Underground?

I rest my case.

Posted by Leepish on Wednesday, 01.10.07 @ 05:24am


The current batch of inductees is fine. I feel the inclusion of the Ronnettes is to keep all of the baby boomers happy. Some of the artists being petitioned for on these posts do deserve enshrinement. Many do not. A Hall of Fame is for GREATNESS. Look at a sports hall of fame; those players were not average or merely good. They transcend the medium and are iconic. That being said, although I very much like Rush they are not great enough. Consider all of the criteria: body of work, longegevity, influence, hits, impact in genre and transcendence of genre. A band like Rush only meets half of these requirements. I am on the fence about KISS, I almost feel that their 80's output really hurt their chances. The Rock Hall voting sets a precedent. If Bob Seger is included then why not John Mellencamp? I believe the Patti Smith inclusion will set a strong precedent. If she can be included(and i have no problem with this) then it is imperative to include The Cure. Their omission thus far is frightening for the fact that I believe Jann Wenner has a ard on for them. They were never on the cover of Rolling Stone when luminaries such as Blind Melon, Spin Doctors, and Richard Ashcroft made the cover. Plus they are subject to constant ridiculr within the rags' pages. They have had a very large influence on musicians for quite some time. They have a remarkable list of singles and albums, and Robert Smith is an undeniable icon. The Cure also transcended the 'alternative' genre by becoming a mainstream success without pandering to the mainstream. So far all of the big bands that rose out of the punk/new wave era are inductees- The Police, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Blondie, The Pretenders, U2, and now REM. These bands along with The Cure really pushed new music to the masses and into the future. As for other snubs like Yes, Chicago, and The Moody Blues were good artists-not great. Another borderline act is The Cars. I really like them a lot but again I think that lack true greatness. Soon Metallica and Madonna will be eligible. Disparate acts yes , but they also have the body of work, the influence, the transcendence and the popularity. They should be first time ballot inductees. Also on the horizon are The Beastie Boys and Run DMC. First timers as well. I have given up my musical snobbery and I really appreciate the history of popular music. Lets hope that the voters do the same.

Posted by music fan on Wednesday, 01.10.07 @ 08:14am


This place is a joke. Kiss and Cooper Deserve to be in instead of the jokes you picked (aside for VH. But wait Gene recorded their first demo) THere is no way in hell I would walk through your doors to pay homage to second rate rock bands!!

Posted by Koski on Wednesday, 01.10.07 @ 10:45am


Leepish: The Velvet Underground and The Grateful Dead are in. I agree with you on Cap'n Beefhart, but Donovan is really not very influential at all, just a gentle hippie who liked smoking banana peels.

Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 01.10.07 @ 14:46pm


Does anyone know how to get tickets to the 2007 induction ceremonies ?

Posted by JC Pascual on Thursday, 01.11.07 @ 11:16am


How about Cheap Trick. If the Stooges and Chic are gonna get nominated, then why not the boys from Rockford. They have never stopped touring. Just because radio stations around the nation think they only have two songs (they obivously have never listened to an entire Trick album in their lives) that shouldn't keep them from getting their just due. I refuse to support or watch any of these inductions until this disservice is resolved.

Posted by steve on Thursday, 01.11.07 @ 11:45am


I personally feel Guns N' Roses should be in the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame!!

Posted by Amy on Monday, 01.15.07 @ 17:34pm


Little Anthony and THE IMPERIALS.They had far more hits than the RONETTES and were far more influential. Their songs have become standards (GOING OUT OF MY HEAD, HURT SO BAD,TEARS ON MY PILLOW, TAKE ME BACK, I'M ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN,TWO PEOPLE IN THE WORLD,SHIMMY SHIMMY KO KO BOP, HURT ,OUT OF SIGHT,OUT OF MIND, AND MANY MORE). They almost single- handedly INVENTED the ADULT CONTEMPORARY music genre,while never abandoning their DOO WOP roots. Their songs have been recorded by a wide range of artists,such as LINDA RONSTADT,REBA MC INTIRE,SERGIO MENDEZ,FRANK SINATRA,the LETTERMEN and others... and they have influenced many more ....such as THE DELFONICS, THE STYLISTICS, BLUE MAGIC,THE MANHATTANS,AND THE CHI- LITES. In fact, the entire PHILLY SOUND of the seventies , with producers such as KENNY GAMBLE, LEON HUFF, THOM BELL,AND VAN MC COY,with it's emphasis on full symphonic orchestration and vocal harmony, can be traced directly back to the THE IMPERIALS'ground - breaking early sixties recordings with TEDDY RANDAZZO and the late DON COSTA ... They were also one of the very FEW DOO WOP groups of the 1950's to maintain consistent success well into the sixties and seventies. the IMPERIALS DEFINITELY deserve induction.Their original version of the song "GOING OUT OF MY HEAD" alone sold more than 4 million copies,and has had more than 100 recorded cover versions by other artists. No artist or group of the 70's or 80's should be inducted until the greats of the 50's and '60's get in first... they are the artists who opened the doors for all the others and made ROCK AND ROLL possible.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 01.16.07 @ 00:12am


Joe Long (Bass Player/Vocals) for The Four Seasons belongs in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame:

Despite his extensive contributions to the Four Seasons, Joe Long remains the only member of the group's “definitive line up” not inducted into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, much controversy still exists over this questionable decision, especially in light of the many top-10 hits the group had during his tenure.

He should be formaly inducted into HOF with the other members of Fankie Valli and The Four Seasons.

Posted by Mark on Thursday, 02.15.07 @ 16:35pm


Mark, that is Shocking! Are you sure Joe Long is not inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame? The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame lists him as part of The Four Seasons definitive lineup.

On the website it states "...In addition to Gaudio and Valli, the Four Seasons' definitive lineup included singer/guitarist Tommy DeVito and bass vocalist/vocal arranger Nick Massi (later replaced by Joe Long). "

No doubt Joe Long should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame if he is not already inducted. We should contact them and see what it takes to have him "fully" inducted.

Posted by Bill Barnes on Friday, 02.16.07 @ 10:03am


There are many good bands that are in the Hall but there are bands that STILL are together touring and makeing records.One is Uriah Heep, would be nice to see them inducted.They been around a good 35 or 36 years.

Posted by David Crabtree on Monday, 02.26.07 @ 11:15am


Guns 'n Roses should be inducted into the Hall once they are eligible. And that's for a simple reason: they are phenomenal in their own way! Have you ever counted how many times they've made the headlines??for whatever reasons they are a band that people talk about. Axl is without doubt one of the top 5 most influential and notorious heavy metal band frontman of all time. And he got that without any stupid make-ups or costumes or made-up image. Purely 'Sex, Drugs & Rock n Roll' life! Slash on the other hand wasn't the best guitarist around but he's one that everybody wants to see onstage. Both of their names are as big as the Band's. So just wait until they've meet the 25-years requirement and they be there for sure.

Apart from that, Metallica, Nirvana and Peral Jam shall be there too..

Posted by Farihan Irfan on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 21:03pm


The following should have been inducted years ago, The Carpenters, Moody Blues, Chicago, Steve Miller, and the biggest oversight of them all, the third biggest selling act of all time, ABBA.

Posted by J McFadden on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 01:59am


the 1980's were by far the worst decade for music.. the only two 80's bands worthy of getting in are van halen and guns n roses..

bands like rem, faith no more, sonic youth, fugazi, janes addiction and the chili peppers all had great music in the 80's but i would consider them 90's bands because of their alternative influence

rem and van halen are totally worthy of the hall while bands like kiss and def leppard should never get in because they were more about the show and not music.. i got mixed feelings on the ronettes while grandmaster flash are not even close, hip hop does not deserve a place in the rock n roll hall of fame.. rap needs to have there on hof and put it in detroit or compton.

Posted by jeff on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 10:32am


Let's face it . . . it's all a #ucking swindle! The list of those that should be in and are not, that got in too soon, and that are in and should not be could go on and on. The whole hall is a commericlaized sham. I am not saying that none of the artists in the hall are talented, influential, or prolific . . . I'm just saying that the bottom line for the hall is commercialism and appealing to the lowest common denominator. Whatever will keep people paying to attend the ceremony, keep people paying to see the hall, make people buy more, etc., is what they will do. If great muscianship and influence happen to recognized in the process, fine, but it's about the $ for the hall, not honor. It's like what the Pistols said when they refused to attend their induction ceremony . . . the "hall of fame is a piss stain."

Posted by dee dee on Tuesday, 03.20.07 @ 09:30am


2007 PURE ROCK AND ROLL ALL OF FAME !?

Posted by JOAO RHODES on Tuesday, 03.20.07 @ 12:30pm


For cryin' our loud, where are The MOODY BLUES ???

First with Orchestral arrangements
First with a flute player
First with a Melatron player
Longevity
What more ????

Posted by Rick Solomon on Monday, 04.16.07 @ 13:32pm


I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I just recently read something that really burns me . In 2004 Jann Wenner's ROLLING STONE magazine published their list of "THE IMMORTALS: THE FIFTY GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME". On this list,THE MIRACLES are listed as number 32, which makes them not only the highest - ranking MOTOWN group in the listing (the SUPREMES ,TEMPTATIONS ,& THE FOUR TOPS all ranked lower, and didnt even make the top 50 ,and,of ALL Motown artists,only STEVIE WONDER & MARVIN GAYE are ranked higher ), but also puts them ahead of such stellar artists as NEIL YOUNG, MADONNA,ROY ORBISON, and THE DOORS.How can WENNER'S own magazine rank THE MIRACLES so high on this list of all- time legends,and yet , at the same time, exclude them from ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION ? Does that make sense to you ? Not to me. Notice , his list didn't just mention "SMOKEY ROBINSON", BUT rather "SMOKEY ROBINSON AND THE MIRACLES", acknowledging that the ENTIRE GROUP merited inclusion..Also as I continued to scan this list , I found that, of this IMMORTAL TOP 50,EVERY SINGLE ARTIST ON THE LIST IS IN THE ROCK HALL OF FAME EXCEPT for four: RUN DMC,NIRVANA,PUBLIC ENEMY, and THE MIRACLES.And the MIRACLES have been FAR MORE influential ,and their songs FAR MORE COVERED then ALL OF THESE ARTISTS PUT TOGETHER !!! Also, as I scanned the next fifty on the list (51-100),several artists ranked BELOW the MIRACLES are RRHOF inductees, such as JACKIE WILSON,PARLIAMENT/FUNKADELIC,AEROSMITH,FRANK ZAPPA,& ERIC CLAPTON,among others. WHICH ONCE AGAIN BEGS THE QUESTION: " WHY AREN'T THE MIRACLES , MOTOWN'S LEGENDARY FIRST GROUP, NOT IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME ??

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 00:23am


WHERE THE FUCK IS KISS?!!! REM and grandmaster flash are rap NOT ROCK!!! RETARDS.

Posted by Tony Lewis on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 23:12pm


I wasn't aware R.E.M. was rap.

Posted by William on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 09:04am


If there's anybody who doesn't believe that THE MIRACLES don't deserve RRHOF induction, check out the MIRACLES on Wikipedia. Read about their history.See how many other artists have covered their songs. See how many hits they've written for others.See how important they were in the formation of MOTOWN RECORDS. Then read the articles on the Ronettes and Percy Sledge (who HAVE been inducted), by comparision.You'll be SHOCKED that THE MIRACLES weren't inducted YEARS ago!!! And , you'll wonder why the OTHERS were !!

Posted by bill g on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 01:17am


Ugh, who are these spammers? And do they think we'll really bother to paste their links into our address bars?

On another note, I left off Galaxie 500....there's probably a bajillion more omissions, but at least the lists give an idea of what I love.

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Posted by Joeog on Thursday, 06.28.07 @ 00:22am


what...no CHICAGO,LUTHER VANDROSS,WEATHER REPORT,RICK JAMES,AVERAGE WHITE BAND,ELO AND QUINCY JONES.....

Posted by michael edwards on Thursday, 06.28.07 @ 04:47am


Next for sure will have Metallica and Modanna will defintly make it.

Other Bands Should Make It
1.Yes
2.Genesis
3.Rush
4.Judas Priest
5.Def Leppard
6.Journey
7.KISS
8.Jeff Beck
9.The Zombies
10.X
11.The Turtles
12.The Monkees
14.Love
15.Kansas
16.Heart
17.Boston
18.The Moody Blues
19.Chicago
20. The Steve Miller Band
21.Bing Crosby
22.The Stooges
23.Blood, Sweat, and Tears
24.The "5" Royales
25.Tears for Fears

Posted by Jackie on Thursday, 06.28.07 @ 06:46am


Next for sure will have Metallica and Modanna will defintly make it.

Other Bands Should Make It
1.Yes
2.Genesis
3.Rush
4.Judas Priest
5.Def Leppard
6.Journey
7.KISS
8.Jeff Beck
9.The Zombies
10.X
11.The Turtles
12.The Monkees
14.Love
15.Kansas
16.Heart
17.Boston
18.The Moody Blues
19.Chicago
20.The Steve Miller Band
21.The Doobie Brothers
22.The Stooges
23.Blood, Sweat, and Tears
24.The "5" Royales
25.Tears for Fears

Posted by Jackie on Thursday, 06.28.07 @ 06:47am


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Posted by Joekw on Friday, 06.29.07 @ 12:44pm


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Posted by shawn mc on Friday, 06.29.07 @ 13:54pm


It is amazing that KISS, and Judas Priest are
not in yet, Are you kidding me..............
2 of the BIGGEST BANDS to ever play rock music,
and they aren't in. Who did they piss off.......
Is BOSTON in the HALL, if so, then KISS and JUDAS PRIEST should be also......
OH, and the MONKEES...................

Posted by Robert R on Monday, 07.2.07 @ 04:36am


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Posted by Joeyk on Thursday, 07.5.07 @ 16:37pm


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Posted by Joeiu on Thursday, 07.5.07 @ 17:16pm


I'm sure Kit must be persuaded by such a reasonable and cogent argument.

Posted by A-Killa on Wednesday, 07.18.07 @ 07:39am


Actually, I agree that there was little "argument" there. However, that being said, I have never ever seen Kit "persuaded"

Posted by Anon on Wednesday, 07.18.07 @ 09:12am


"I don't care who the fuck you think you are,but if KISS isn't inducted into your pathetic little hasbeen club in the 2008 ceremony, then the KISS army will fucking burn your museum to the fucking ground!!!"-KISSluvr

1) I'm pretty sure it's not Kit's building.

2) It's most definitely insured.

3) If it were hit by a meteor from space tomorrow, no one would care.

4) Do it.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 07.18.07 @ 12:22pm


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Posted by Sandra on Thursday, 07.19.07 @ 02:46am



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