Three Dog Night

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I say Three Dog Night definitely belongs in the Tambourine Shakers Hall of Fame. There's never been a band, will never be a band so conductive for this activity. Tunes like "Joy To The World" and "Shambala" are tambourine anthems.

So grab your brother by the hand and shake your tambourines.......

Posted by SG on Thursday, 11.8.07 @ 15:45pm


Yes they belong in the rock and roll hall of fame they had 21 top 40 hits

Posted by scott on Monday, 01.14.08 @ 19:08pm


I think some performers who are in the Hall are a little envious of the commercial success this band had & might be holding that against them. Sad, they should be in.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 03.10.08 @ 07:45am


Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog was nearly a national anthem in its day. When Jimmie Greenspoon plays the 1st few chords of that song EVERYONE within earshot knows and usually sings the opening of the song---and most sing the whole song. It is the feel good song of America. It was 3 Dog Night who made it just that. Why? Because everyone was listening to 3 Dog Night during that time period.

Should Dave Clark Five, The Stones, The Beatles, Steppenwolf and the Doors be in the Hall of Fame? Darn straight--AND SO SHOULD THREE DOG NIGHT!!

Three Dog Night WAS the early 70's. They were a part of our national identity.

Give Three Dog Night there induction while most are still performing. Send Three Dog Night to the Hall of Fame in 2009--and feel the joy.

Posted by Donna Byas on Saturday, 05.31.08 @ 00:03am


THEY DEFINETLY STILL SHOULD BE IN THE HALL OF FAME
MY FAVORITE GROUP IN THE 70'S MORE TOP HITS AND LOTS OF GOLD RECORDS COMPARED WITH MANY GROUPS ALREADY IN I JUST SAW THESE GUYS AND THEY CAN STILL ROCK GO BACK AND LISTEN TO COREY WELLS SING TRY A LITTLE TENDERNESS PUTS OTIS REDDING TO SHAME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCw7MdNhZWI

Posted by PAUL on Friday, 06.20.08 @ 14:27pm


Three Dog Night...Three guys with a back-up band who did other people's music for the most part ("Easy To Be Hard"-Andrew Lloyd Webber, "Eli's Coming"-Laura Nyro, "One"-Harry Nillson, "Shambala", B. W. Stevenson, etc...). I thought Chuck Negron had a very distinct voice, but other than that...to each his own!! The statement about Corey Wells putting Otis Redding to shame was good for a laugh, though!! You'd have to be a BIG Three Dog Night fan to believe that!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 06.21.08 @ 12:13pm


The "DOG" should have been in there a long time ago. Other than the beatles these guy's brought "Stadium Rock" into it's own, they were the only band capable of filling outdoor stadiums.
And Gitarzan, you should be ashamed, many groups did not write their own music, and still do not today.


When these guy's toured they set attendance and monies brought in records never seen before, this band is truly deserving of the Hall of Fame induction

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 07.16.08 @ 12:17pm


Other than the beatles these guy's brought "Stadium Rock" into it's own, they were the only band capable of filling outdoor stadiums. - Mike

Please say you are just kidding with this statement because I think a few other bands might beg to differ with it. Since my mind still has a haze flowing through it when thinking of the 70's, I distinctly remember seeing Grand Funk at Shea Stadium (sold out). They were the first band to play there since the Beatles. I saw Jethro Tull (sold out)play there a few years later. ELP played several stadium shows during their Welcome Back My Friends Tour as did Alice Cooper (sold out). I am sure there are a host of other bands as well.

So what else you got for 3 Dog Night induction? I happen to be a fan of theirs, but I don't see them as meeting the stated criteria. But then, that is just one mans opinion.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 07.16.08 @ 13:13pm


I liked some of their more obscure stuff like "Out In The Country", etc... I grew up in that era, and I can't recall them ever being a huge large venue act. If they were, it was because they were opening for someone else.

Another thing you have to remember is that they weren't really a "band"...just three vocalists backed by interchangeable instrumentalists. Add in the fact that their big hits were penned by others (I simply won't forgive them for even recording "Let The Show Go On"...UGH!!!).

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 07.16.08 @ 19:04pm


....."can't recall them ever being a huge large venue act"......are you one of those guys who don't remember the 70's???

They filled up large venues all over the country!! They sold out football stadiums! Even if it's a small stadium, that's a lot of people! The Cotton Bowl is no joke of a large venue!

And......how many Temptations songs were written by the Temptations? How many songs did Aretha Franklin write? How many did Elvis write? NOT MANY --and most of us would throw conniption fits and a few hissy fits if any of those greats had not been inducted!

One mother and son pair have both written Number 1 Rock and Roll hit songs. Can you name them? They are Mae Boren Axton and Hoyt Axton. Mae co-wrote Heart Break Hotel for Elvis Presley---The King. Hoyt wrote Joy to the World (Jeremiah Was a Bullfrog) for THREE DOG NIGHT. That's a pretty good historical connection to have.

Just because the Beatles wrote many of their own songs, song writing doesn't set the bar for every other group (this is America-- not Britain) to have to do the same to get into the Hall (see the aforemnentioned and inducted group of singers). I don't get why you're setting an artificial standard for Three Dog Night.

You are missing the entire point of the whole "song writing" matter......those songs would NOT have become the hits they were had Three Dog Night not sung them!! EVERYone (except, it seems, for a couple of guys who have found this website to post on)... EVERYONE in the early 70's were listenting to Trhee Dog Night. Want your song to be a hit? Give it to Three Dog Night---and by the way, they paved the way for a lot of great song writing talent and up and coming performers---Elton John (Reginald Dennis) for a great big one instance. Paul Williams got a great big foot in the recording door when Three Dog Night sang 3 of his songs into the Top 40. We may have never known much of Randy Newman without 3 Dog's help....and I can't imagine a world withOUT Randy Newman songs---it would be so much more boring.

Not a real band....give me a break. These guys sang with their own voices, the band members played their own instruments and did quite well, too. There's nobody better on an organ better than Jimmy Greenspoon.

You'd be not quite frank, if you didn't admit that Michael Allsup didn't bring a lot of new stuff to the guitar rock world. He brought new techniques, new swells, and a lot of phenomenal guitar rifts that, at the time, few people knew a guitar could do.

THESE guys were masters at arranging. They wrote in new rifts, hooks, key changes and words to these ongs. They made a popular song out of a never listened to song. And they had great ears and feel for what their fans would like. They came up with ways to record and getting stuff out of songs and music that was very new and challenging then---they made their recording techniques the stand for years later. They did what few groups have done for triad harmony singing.

To say all that does NOT meet the Rock and Roll standard is disingenous and just flatly denying what is a known fact. Writing your own songs is NOT a standard to be met to join the Hall of Fame. Now, I will agree that one should have fame to join the Hall--and 3 Dog Night has an abundance of that! I'll tell you, I don't know where you live, but if you're in Oklahoma, you had STILL better call fast when tickets go on sale or you won't get them. They're still good as gold for packing in a crowd. These guys STILL rock! And this is rock and roll, we're talking about.

They were always willing to try new things ....like "The Show Must Go ON", "Liar" was certainly a different sound, and they did great things with rhythm ("It Ain't Easy" and "It's For YOu"); and the things they could do with harmony were unreal (Celebrate, One Man Band, and Nobody).

Their triad harmonic rock, I would beg to differ, is, on it's own merit, worthy of induction into the Hall fo Fame. When you think of Danny's masterful reording ideas, Michael's contributions to the guitar world, Jimmy's contributions to the keyboard world, and the arrangement work these guys did, you've got more than one good reason, more than meeting the Hall's standard and more than one time!

Bring Three Dog Night into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!! NOW!!!

Saying they were just 3 singers in front of interchangeable musicians is just so ridiculous. Singers and musicians have left bands time and time and time again---and I guarantee you they will continue to do so. Do you say that about the Beach Boys? Can you count how many personnell changes they had?? Do you say that about the Temptations? Do you know how many changes in their group they had? If nothing else, that proves how great the group is, that they can keep finding ways to make it work regardless of the challenge of fitting in new personnell.

Nuff said. I don't know who's kept the dogs out, but it is high time we brought them in.

Let's induct Three Dog Night into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Donna on Sunday, 07.27.08 @ 21:38pm


Are we talking about the same Three Dog Night?? Like Dameon, my heydey of playing and concert going was during that time, and I lived in a big metropolitan area. I liked some of their stuff, but they most assuredly weren't selling out stadiums. You'll have to prove that to me, because there are 5 major venues here, and they didn't "pack "em In" here...

Add to the fact they were three vocalists...period!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 06:10am


The guys you're talking about were just their original "band" that played behind them, their "backbeat, if you will. They were by no means innovative. Hate to tell you this, but they were all about vocals, and like I said...they were okay!!

Your perception of Three Dog Night is way out of whack. They were a vocal group, had some hits, and made some noise for about 8 years. That about covers them.

Posted by Gitatzan on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 06:30am


No band was bigger 1969-72. Do some homework and see for yourself what they accomplished. The fact that they had 3 lead singers should be enough to get them a spot in the Hall. I seriously doubt there is anyone that was over 8 years old when Joy To The World was released that couldn't tell you the words today. That's impact. Seeing people focus on what they did not do instead of what they did do is disturbing and misguided. They rocked the world and when you hear them today it brings back memories of a better time. Three Dog Night deserve induction into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, even more than most that have already made it in.

Posted by Mike Maiolo, Pittsburgh on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 21:18pm


I am well aware of what they "accomplished", thanks. First of all, "Joy To The World" (the Hoyt Axton song, not the Christmas song) was a staple in most church youth groups, and it had very little to do with Three Dog Night. I've already stated before that I thought they were okay... I especially enjoyed Chuck Negron's vocals, but they weren't earth shattering. They had a good string of hits (predominantly written by others), and overall had a good career. They got a lot of Top 40 airplay. I just don't think they were innovative or influential enough to be in the HOF.

You speak of 1969...the year of Woodstock, where the who's who of rock music performed. Where was Three Dog Night? Must've had better things to do...You say no one during that time was bigger?? That statement is absolute rubbish!! Maybe you're the one who needs to do your homework!! Look at the names of the artists who were active at that time...the list of "who's bigger" is as long as your arm! Tell me, where would they have been without the songwriting abilities of Harry Nillson, Randy Newman, Paul Williams, Russ Ballard, Laura Nyro, or John Hiatt...just to name a few of the people who penned their hits?

You people who are for artists whose induction qualifications are questionable at best always think that because someone disagrees with you, that they're totally against that artist, which is usually further from the truth. I thought they made a contribution, they had a few hits and did generally pretty well for themselves. But being the biggest act on earth at any time or selling out stadiums by themselves or turning the world on it's ear...didn't happen!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 07.28.08 @ 22:16pm


...."1969...the year of Woodstock....Where was Thre Dog Night?

What a MANIPULATION of HISTORY!!! Three Dog Night According to "One is the Loneliest Number" by Jimmy Greenspoon (3 Dog Night's keyboardists--since inception) and Mark Bego on page 117, it was not until JUNE 9, 1969 that the 1st album of 3 Dog Night sold 1 million copies.

Woodstock was just too early for organizers to know about 3 Dog Night and their leagues of fans that would soon arise.

Well, I could ask you the same thing about Journey, Heart, Rush, and any other big rock group that came along in the 70's, 80's, 90's...why were they not at Woodstock? Because they hadn't hit the big time yet--most didn't exist at that point.

However, if you flip to page 132 of Greenspoon's book, He says they didn't play at Woodstock because they were contractually obligated for other engagements that week. You have to admire that. Cory Wells put off joining up with Dannh Hytton to form 3 Dog Night because he was under contract in Arizona. The guys are known for keeping their contracts.

Jimmy lists the Miami Pop Festival, the Devonshire Downs Festival with Jimi Hendrix in 1969, in 1970 they did the Denver Pop Festival--where 3 Dog Night closed the show the 1st night and Hendrix closed the show the 2nd night (I think that says something of their popularity during the 70's). The 2nd night, 3 Dog Night performed again---right before Hendrix. Hendrix went on stage and yelled at the crowds to break the barriers down--which started a riot complete with cops. That was the last festival 3 Dog Night did until the Pocono Pop Festival offered them $200,000 to play for 30 minutes in July 1972. I think that shores up how bankable, what a draw they were to generate large crowds.

These guys sound like their records, even today, when they are in concerts. These guys are talented and have done it for the long run. And their fans still show up for them. These guys were the early 70's.

Nobody tops their harmonies, arrangements and recording techniques and versatility. Straight up rock, great R&B's.

This is the 1st time in my 53 years of attending Southern Baptist churches that I have heard that Jeremiah was a Bullfrog is just a song sung by church youthgroups. I guess our denomination's choir directors didn't pick up on the "spritual" significance of Jeremiah the Bullfrog and maybe didn't like the stanza....you know I love the ladies, I love to have my fun....and the part about throwing away the cars and the bars in the world ...and make sweet love to you.....

I have NEVER heard that song sung in a church and if someone did, I would bet they rearranged the 3 Dog Night arrangement.

Jeremiah was a Bullfrog (Joy to the World) was the feel good song of the US in the 70's ...and is still referred to today by businesses who incorporate the song into their name or decor, commercials, etc. The song is still alive today--it was nearly a national anthem in the 70's and in 1971 it was the feel good song of the year.

NO other group of that time could have made that song into what it became. Now, that's a group of incredible fame and is Rock and Roll Hall of Fame material!

No, somebody on the board failed to lure 3 Dog Night to his recording label; he missed out on his piece of the Three Dog Night pie and now that he has a "powerful" position on one of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame boards, he is going to make Cory and Danny pay for not paying him several decades ago by keeping them out of the Hall. I don't know the guy--but I know people who know the guy.That kind of politics is an injustice that should not be known in America.

I think the guy ought to be removed from the board for holding personal grudges to such an extreme.

Send 3 Dog NIght to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame......and feel the joy it brings to the rock world!!

Just a few weeks ago, some peripherally involved member of the 3 Dog Night organization (I think it was a former manager) was selling some 3 Dog Night awards that were presented to him as manager, too. Among the things he offered for sale was a trophy for a sold out stadium in Hawaii and a sold out stadium in Atlanta, GA for the 3 Dog Night stadium tour. As I said earlier, they sold out at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas, TX, too.

Here's a list of acts that OPENED for 3 Dog Night in the 70's: Rod Stewart and the Faces, Humble Pie, Stevie Wonder, Jackson Browne, the Byrds, the Allman Brothers, the Doobie Brothers, Little Feat, Jethro Tull, Leon Russell, Jefferson Airplane, Kansas, the Steve Miller Band, Uriah Heap, Ten Years After, the Guess Who, Styx, REO Speedwagon, and Aerosmith---and that is just a few.

NOTE: those groups OPENED for 3 Dog Night. In the 70's, if you wanted to get your act out there and in the lime light and get noticed, who would you try to gig for? Well, some of the guys who made it big in that time period wanted to gig for 3 Dog Night--they knew it would bring them the limeligh--and it did.

Posted by Donna on Thursday, 07.31.08 @ 10:45am


No.

Ever listened to Galaxie 500?

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 07.31.08 @ 19:28pm


Three Dog Night had charted at least twice well before Woodsstock, and "One" hit #5. Everyone in that era had a story about Woodstock...they were either there, had "a sock drawer they had to rearrange", didn't realize how significant it was going to be (which is the most bogus reason), or they just weren't invited. What catagory did Three Dog Night fall under...really???

Now the question remains out there...WHO did they influence, how were they innovative, and how were they more than just a good vocal group that had a good string of hits? When you get down to it, there have been a lot of bands sell out stadiums and will never see the light of day in the HOF. I was a young teen, living in a large metro area, trying to read and listen to anything rock guitar. Three Dog Night was popular, but not earth-shattering. I liked a lot of their stuff, they usually did justice to the material they covered (except "The Show Must Go On", which in my opinion is one of the worst songs ever, written by Leo "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" Sayer...what were they thinking???), and like I said before, they had a good run.

Now you give qoutes from a book written bt their keyboardist (there's unbiased literature for ya), you give a list of people who opened for them and stadiums they sold out, none of it substantiated, and overall you just don't do them justice. A lot of people give facts, dates, and places on this, why don't you? "Joy To The World" was sung at every Young Life, Campus Life, and Fellowship of Christian Athletes rally I went to. As a matter of fact, at the 1972 FCA national conference the MC, Ray Hildebrand (from Paul & Paula..."Hey Paula", you might remember) sang it everyday, probably with lyrical adjustments. That's a fact!

Give a rational and substantiated opinion on this site and most people will respect it. I liked Three Dog Night, I don't think they'll ever be inducted and I stated why. You need to give reasons why they should, and quit arguing with people who don't agree or put you on the spot!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 07.31.08 @ 19:48pm


....."none of it substantiated"....Oh, contrare.
All that was in Greenspoon's book. Doesn't sound like you've read it. It's a good read, so you might want to find a copy and read up on your topic. Foks who know Jimmy Greenspoon rave about his memory and recall ability. The guitarist, Michael Allsup, has an online biography of himself, and some aspects of the band, as well. Chuck Negron has a biography out, but haven't read that one. He talks a lot about his drug abuse and long recovery which took many attempts before success. Don't know how much about the band he covers.

I'm beginning to believe the only opinion you would call "rationale and substantiated" is one that agrees with your own. I don't think you own this site and I don't believe you set any rules, here.

The topic of this site is 3 Dog Night--will they get into the Hall of Fame. I, and most all other poster on this site seem to think 3 Dog should get into the Hall of Fame and that it is time to put them in. For some reason, Gitarzan sees this site as a place to throw verbal Molotov cocktails at a band that gave us the song "Joy to the World (Jeremiah was a Bullfrog)".....which I have learned that to Gitarzan, is a Christian song of high spiritual significance ....but NOT a rock and roll song. This must be news to the rest of the music world.

Who did Three Dog Night influence? Well, how about the guys who covered their songs after they released them on albums? How about Joe Crocker, who took Cory's "You can leave your hat on" and made it the hit that Cory thought it would be when they cut it. How about David Bowie, you took "It Ain't Easy" and tried to make it his song. There's another kid more recently who did it, too--can't recall his name.
How about Hanson--who recorded 3DN's "Never Been to Spain".

Oklahoma, by resolution or act of our state legislature, is in the midst of selecting a state rock and roll song. Nominations closed today, I believe. Among the many nominated songs are.....guess who's? Three Dog Night's. Nominated are Out in the Country; that great old rock and roll "spiritual" Jeremiah Was a Bullfrog(Joy to the World); and my personal favorite--"Never Been to Spain"......but I"ve been to Oklahoma. As Hoyt Axton wrote the 2nd two, I think one of those will make the cut to the final 10. Axton was born in Duncan, Oklahoma. As Michael Allsup has family roots in Henryetta, Oklahoma.





Posted by Donna on Thursday, 07.31.08 @ 21:21pm


Donna...I think I've stressed to you in every way possible that I don't have a problem with Three Dog Night, I just don't think their body of work is enough to get inducted, especially by the ones who call themselves the "nominating committee". I don't know why those religious entities used "Joy To The World", they obviously found a message in it. And guess what...I never said it wasn't a rock song!!! I remember "You Can Leave Your Hat On', but not Bowie's rendition of "It Ain't Easy".

Furthermore, I've never leveled a personal attack on you!!! You're beginning to remind me of the Backstreet Boy fans! Yes, I give my opinion on artists, and find it more enjoyable when the differences of opinion are filled with substantiated fact. When I'm wrong, I admit it, and if I don't know about an artist I will look into them...both listening and reading. I know enough about Three Dog Night to know that most of their hits were written by others, but they did do them justice (in most cases).

Because I don't think they'll ever get inducted, your fetish for them seems to constitute an attack on me and prompts you to make a bunch of ridiculous statements with my name attached to them. I find you borderline boorish and really not worth having a civil conversation with.

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 07.31.08 @ 21:50pm


"Everyone in that era had a story about Woodstock..."

Being the lord of the (rock & roll) jungle, normally I would not jump in on you here, especially w/ Three Dog Night as the culprits you're trying to head off. I have to interject here w/something I read a while back. Apparently in the late 60's there were attempts to imitate Monterey Pop by unknowing hippie entrepeneurs, most of whom had both little $ and little brains when it came to plotting out a festival. From what I've gathered, many artists were burned financially and became wary of hip characters spouting a line about the latest mega concert. I understand that even Woodstock suffered in this planning stage, and some bands were afraid to commit. It could be argued that 3 Dog Night were just taking the attitude of the day, namely watch out as to whose planning these things.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 08.1.08 @ 05:49am


By all accounts, Woodstock got out of hand rather quickly. People started wondering why they had to pay to get in, lack of facilities, etc... Just too big of an area to maintain and control.If you pay no mind to the music, Woodstock was kind of a mess!!

...and then there was Altamount!!! The ultimate mess!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.1.08 @ 06:17am


Altamont...guess I'm trying to rename the place!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.1.08 @ 06:23am


Bowie's "It Ain't Easy" can be found on you tube as well as the other kid's version(Ricky somebody, I think). Just because you don't recall them does not mean they didn't happen.

I have NO fetish for Three Dog Night. They are merely a group who had huge success, ruled the air waves when I was in high school, and everyone I knew (friend or foe) loved Three Dog Night at that time.
They sang songs that gave other talented artists a great big foot into the door of the music world; they came up with new and different recording techniques; they were great artists at rearranging a song to make it better, more unique and more successful; and worked out great harmonies and organ and guitar solos and for some reason they don't get the credit they deserve from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Injustice makes me darn mad and NOT putting Three Dog Night in is a huge injustice--and pretty well thumbs their nose at the kids who grew up and listened to 3 Dog from 69-75.

It appears there are quite a few people who want to see them in the Hall of Fame; I'm just one of them.

...."boorish"......Gitarzan was the one who came on the board taking shots and throwing Molotovs at those who support Three Dog Night for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Just check out the posts above. Conversation? Heck, I'm just setting you straight about the error of your boorish comments.

Know this: When people start running down Three Dog Night ---especially with false "facts" and comments with holes in them a mile wide--Three Dog Night's fans will call the real boors on their falsities--especially on a board dedicated to Three Dog Night.



Posted by Donna Byas on Saturday, 08.2.08 @ 00:10am


Woodstock?

The Beatles were not at Woodstock; Elvis was not at Woodstock; a multitude of great band of that era were not at Woodstock; some who played at Woodstock had never been heard of before by the multitudes.

Woodstock is NOT the gage of a musical band or act of that time. Woodstock was as much a "pharmaceutical" event as it was a concert.

Woodstock is a red herring in any discussion of a group's viability as a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee.

Posted by Donna on Saturday, 08.2.08 @ 00:46am


Three Dog Night was initially eligible in 1994, and were at least "considered" at one time. I'm afraid as time passes by and the nominating committee continues to say "give us your rap, your hip-hop, your pop dance queens, etc...", it's very unlikely they'll ever get in.

That being said, most of what I posted is strictly my opinion, this "Donna" person keeps spouting off about their significant contributions (great organ and guitar solos????) and how many stadiums they've sold out (most venues have these kinds of records, all you have to do is look it up), and how great their harmonies were, how if they recorded it the song was automatically better, with no basis of fact other than some lame ass book a member of the band wrote. What ever happened to things like dates of all these "sold-out stadium shows", names of artists directly influenced by them and why, specific innovations that changed rock music, etc... I'm afraid the burden of obtaining facts is on "Donna"! My opinion is simply that, no one has to like it.

As Dameon once said, he liked the artists but hated some of the fans because they simply wouldn't back up what they said with facts, then they discredit your opinions and call you "haters". Well, in this case I guess that's all you can expect from a middle-aged adolescent!

If anyone can give any REAL reasons why you think they should be inducted, feel free to jump in and enlighten the rest of us. I'm not above saying I could've missed something.

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.2.08 @ 12:34pm


"How about Joe Crocker, who took Cory's "You can leave your hat on" and made it the hit that Cory thought it would be when they cut it." - Donna

Cory's? How about Randy (Newman)'s? You might remember him as the guy who wrote a little song called "Mama Told Me Not to Come".

Cover versions are not a good indication for influence. Sometimes an artist covers a song simply because they like it, or because it's radically different from their own music. Most of Joe Cocker's hits are covers (With a Little Help - The Beatles, The Letter - The Box Tops, Feelin' Alright - Traffic, You are so Beautiful - Billy Preston, Unchain my Heart - Ray Charles, etc.); that doesn't mean he's influenced by all those artists.

Three Dog Night themselves covered quite a lot of songs. If covers really are an indication for influence, Three Dog Night shouldn't be inducted before Newman, Harry Nilsson, Laura Nyro, Leo Sayer, Russ Ballard, all artists that seemed to be quite influential on their music...

Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 08.2.08 @ 15:39pm


The song "It Ain't Easy" was written by Ron Davies (not by Three Dog Night...there's a shock), and first appeared on his album titled "Silent Song Through The Land". It also appeared on Bowie's "The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust" (even though it didn't fit the concept of that album...but that's Bowie for ya), and was covered by Big John Baldry and Dave Edmunds, among others.

My personal favorite Three Dog Night song, "Out In The Country", was written by Paul Williams and Roger Nichols. Williams also wrote "(Just An) Old Fashioned Love Song" and "The Family Of Man". He also wrote some monster hits for others, but that's a story for a different page.

The_Claw...we need to also add John Hiatt ("Sure As I'm Sittin" Here") and B.W. Stevenson ("Shambala") to the mix of artists you mentioned. I'm trying to leave Leo Sayer off, though...that song gives me nightmares!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 08.2.08 @ 21:11pm


Well, Dave Clark 5 was just inducted last year.

They broke up about the time Three Dog Night started hitting the air waves in a big way.

So, it's just now about due time for Three Dog Night to be inducted. I'd like to see them go in while they're still performing in good form.

.....and they do still pack them in.

The "proof" Gitarzan demands is readily available in the aforementioned books. I'm glad to see he finally did some research on "It Ain't Easy" which he didn't remember Bowie doing, earlier. He could refresh his memory of Three Dog Night by digging through these references himself. 3 Dog still sounds great doing their own version, which so many people copied.

I think the proof of Three Dog Night's popularity lies in the number of posters who post that Three Dog Night should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

......and I'll let the readers decide whom they think is the "adolescent".....I'm really comfortable with the fact that that the truth will always find a way to be born out.....just like the fact that the Three Dog Night is truly deserving of induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Their fame and the hold they had on teenagers & college kids every where 69-75 is enough to warrant induction. To pass them over is to thumb the nose at a generation of people who grew up during that time.

On another site on the internet, well over 1400 people have signed a petition asking for the induction of Three Dog Night---and there's not even a campaign going on!

Posted by Donna on Sunday, 08.3.08 @ 22:47pm


Did you know that Randy Newman called Cory Wells and thanked him for all the money that was going to pay Newman's kids' way through college? He was wondering how he was going to do that until Three Dog Night recorded Mama Told Me Not to Come---which they rearranged differently than Newman wrote it.

Gitarzan is not totally above board in cyring that 3 Dog Night recorded other people's songs. ...and by the way, what singer hasn't recorded songs that someone else wrote? But, Three Dog Night--over and over and over again, took a song and arranged it differently, and made it suitable to the tastes of their fans and were rewarded over and over with Top 40 rankings of their records for 6 years. That's a pretty good string of hits. That's great arrangers of good songs written by formerly undiscovered talent.

Royalties from the songs they made hits paid a lot of royalty checks to folks who other wise wouldn't have had their material heard by such large audiences (not just on live concerts but on the radio as well).

Posted by Donna on Sunday, 08.3.08 @ 22:55pm


"and by the way, what singer hasn't recorded songs that someone else wrote?"

There are quite a lot singers that usually sing their own songs. There is even a term for these people. Ever heard of singer-songwriters? Randy Newman is one of them.

Popularity, hits and a large fanbase are not criteria for induction. So far your only argument that could work for their induction is that by making hits from other people's songs, they turned unknown songwriters into wellknown ones. That could be considered 'influential', and at least showed they had some impact in the history of rock 'n roll. Now if you could actually prove that people like Harry Nilsson, Randy Newman, Laura Nyro, John Hiatt (you're right Gitarzan, he should be mentioned), Russ Ballard etc. became wellknown because of Three Dog Night, you might make a case for their induction. But that also means you have to do some research into their careers, not only into 3DN's. Maybe your books on 3DN are not biased, but you can never be to sure unless you check some other sources, sources that are not directly about them. Good luck!

Posted by The_Claw on Monday, 08.4.08 @ 07:24am


I totally disagree. I think you guys just discard that 3 Dog Night (usually Danny Hutton's brains & experience at the recording studio) used new and innovative recording techniques that became standards in the recording industry.

The "anti" 3 Dog Night posters here continual reference to 3 Dog Night's "just recording other people's songs" is a gross UNDER and MIS statement of fact. Three Dog Night totally changed most of the songs they recorded. Three Dog Night did their own arrangements of what others had written (though they did use some of the songs Michael Allsup --3 Dog Night guitarist-wrote on his own on their albums). Three Dog Night were masters of arranging songs. That's not just my own observation. That's well documented by industry regulars all over the internet and in the musical journals of their day. They can be readilly found, as well as the large venues 3 Dog Night regularly sold out in the 70's and late 60's. To satisfy Claw and Gitarzan would succeed in their ploy to tie up my time by typing them all out here for their easy reference.

Some see the easiest way for "their" bands to be inducted is to tear down others that should be inducted as well.

Three Dog Night really did make rock and roll contributions and the evidence is still heard today, sometimes hourly, on rock and roll oldies stations today. Everytime a 50ish, 60ish person smiles when they hear their favorite old Three Dog Night songs proves it. Thre Dog Night filled up so many stadiums and large venues, they made it easier for others to negotiate deals to do the same later. They proved it could be done with an American Band (not just the Beatles).

I've NEVER read an article of any of the writers of the songs Three Dog Night made famous, complaining that they took their song. Contrary to that, Three Dog Night were sent gazillioins of songs from authors hoping their tune would be picked and rearranged.

Induct Three Dog Night to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame---and feel the joy brought to the world!!

PS--For those interested, on the Chicago board of this same site are listed addresses that Chicago fans are encouraging others to write letters to to induct Chicago. I would encourage others to write those people--Jann Werner, Clive Davis and others ---asking them to induct Three Dog Night. Even if you could write just one letter, it would bring Three Dog Night to their attention and show their really is support for the indution of Three Dog Night--whose time has arrived. After all, Dave Clark 5 just made it last year. As Dave Clark was fading from the scene, Three Dog Night was appearing. And, you will probably note that some of the posters on this board opposing Three Dog Night's admission are posting for the admission of other bands--tearing down one band to make the other seem so much better is an old still often used tactic of humankind.

It's time to induct Three Dog Night!!

Posted by Donna on Friday, 08.8.08 @ 11:43am


I didn't tear down any band (Well, maybe Milli Vanilli, but c'mon!), nor did I ever pushed for a band's induction just because I like them. I am not so naive or arrogant to think my tearing down a band would have any influence on the actual induction process. I never even said I didn't like Three Dog Night, and neither did Gitarzan. And, btw, I never said the songwriters didn't like seeing their songs being covered. I just said it won't be that interesting for the Nominating Committee, if their covers didn't had any impact on rock history.

I do like to think I have an idea about what it takes for an act to get inducted. And I like to debate about it. The quality of their work matters, but not that much. Frequent airplay and sold-out large venues won't impress the nomination committee at all, and neither would a loyal fanbase. It won't tell you anything about the importance of that act in the history of rock n roll. To be honest, the best writing letters would do, is bringing an act to the attention of the committee. And since they already have considered 3DN, I'm pretty sure that's not necessary anymore.

What wll impress the committee, are the three I's: innovation, influence and impact (on the history of rock 'n roll, not on their fans). I gave you an example: if any of those songwriters rose to stardom because of Three Dog Night, than they changed history. You yourself came up with another example: if they really brought American bands back to attention with their sold out concerts, than they made an impact on history.

Those things will matter! They mean the difference between getting nominated and being overlooked. Not that they arranged songs in a great way, but that those arrangements brought attention to those songwriters, and that they innovated techniques for their arrangements that would become standards. And not that they were a very successful live act, selling out many, many concerts and reaching many, many fans, but that they were the first American band to be successful since the British Invasion, proving that their is a market for homegrown acts. If these things are actually true (I'm not saying they're not, I just would like to know a little more about it), Three Dog Night should have a good chance. I find this very interesting, and will do some research on it.

Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 08.8.08 @ 18:22pm


Why do we have to write letters begging these idiots at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to induct the rock bands we love?

Give The Power Back To The People.

Claw, which British Invasion are you referring to the first one or the second one? Their were many American bands that were successful during and after these invasions.

Three Dog Night should not be in, I like their songs, well somebody else's songs that they performed but I think to be a Hall of Famer you have to write and perform your own material.

SpaceTrucker

Posted by Space Trucker on Friday, 08.8.08 @ 18:38pm


"To satisfy Claw and Gitarzan would succeed in their ploy to tie up my time by typing them all out here for their easy reference."- Donna

What a total and complete cop-out!!! The reason you don't list all their "innovations and influence" is because you don't have any clue what they would be. I have no such ploy, I really don't care. But if you're going to make claims, substantiate it with fact. You're the one who says they did all this wonderful stuff...prove it!

I've said all along that I really don't have anything against them, I just don't think their body of work merits induction in the RRHOF. They had a nice run, and left a nice legacy. They're in the Vocal Group Hall Of Fame, if you ask me deservedly so. But to say they "re-created the wheel", so to speak is absurd. I've been a musician a long time, I'd really be interested in knowing what startling innovations they came up with in the recording studio. Their music didn't leave me thinking I was listening to anything other than a good vocal group. Everyone over the history of "singing" has tried to interpret songs to fit their particular style...nothing new.

My posts aren't "anti Three Dog Night", but I guess you could interpret them as anti "all blow-no show" fans. If you keep this up, you'll convince people that they didn't accomplish anything, which isn't fair to them.

You should compare your posts to those of Steve Perry, Bon Jovi, and the Backstreet Boys...you'll find amazing similarities!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 08.8.08 @ 18:51pm


I meant the first one, the one with the Beatles, not the one with Duran Duran.

Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 08.8.08 @ 18:54pm


Hey Claw this is fun,

The second British Invasion was Cream, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath. Duran Duran was just a nightmare.

SpaceTrucker

Posted by SpaceTrucker on Friday, 08.8.08 @ 19:06pm


Ah I see. I always thought they called the wave of British acts that dominated the worldwide charts in the early eighties "The Second British Invasion". Duran Duran, Eurythmics, Culture Club, Wham!, the Human League etc. Anyway, I still meant the first invasion.

Posted by The_Claw on Saturday, 08.9.08 @ 12:02pm


The dog were great.. They were big as their EGO.. Having said that They should be in.. They could play and sing.. Heck they even played on their on recordings!!

Posted by mrxyz on Saturday, 08.9.08 @ 12:10pm


Hey Claw,

I did a little research and you were right according to wikipedia the second British Invasion was punk and new wave. I stand corrected. But I still believe the second wave of British acts that were huge came in the late sixties early seventies Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Foghat and so on, But hey, maybe thats another topic for discussion.

Back to Three Dog Night your comment that Three Dog Night was the first successful band after the British Invasion seem inacurate. What about the Doors, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Jimi Hendrix the list goes on. I really have a problem with an individual or act being enshrined that did not write their own material to me that is huge. Love Three dog Night but not as Hall of Famers.

SpaceTrucker

Posted by Space Trucker on Saturday, 08.9.08 @ 12:56pm


Don't go by Wiki for everything

Posted by blah-blah-blah on Saturday, 08.9.08 @ 14:06pm


It wasn't really my comment, I was paraphrasing one of Donna's: "Thre [sic] Dog Night filled up so many stadiums and large venues, they made it easier for others to negotiate deals to do the same later. They proved it could be done with an American Band (not just the Beatles)."

I had my doubts about this statement, although I probably didn't express them quite so clear. And I'm quite sure you're right, and that bands like The Doors, The JH Experience, The Byrds should get credit for bringing back the attention to American rock. And hey, what about The Monkees?

Posted by The_Claw on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 05:42am


Before we start giving credit to those American bands, let's start where it belongs; The Beach Boys. They saw what was coming across the ocean and started moving forward with their music. Pet Sounds is more important than any album any of tyhose other artists out forth. I do agree that the Monkees TV show and popularity also helped bring the focus back to American bands somewhat.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 08.10.08 @ 07:00am


It's just a bizarre and false requirement and an artificaial barrier that bands should write their own songs to be in the Hall of Fame.

Elvis didn't write his own stuff. Temptations didn't write their own songs. Supremes didn't write their own songs. Aretha Franklin didn't write her own songs. Are you going to insist these people be removed from the Hall of Fame because they didn't write their own songs? Surely your answer is no.

So, these people didn't write their own songs, but why were they inducted? Because they interpreted and made these songs into what nobody else did with them; they made them part of the American culural landscape and part of musical hisotry.

THAT is what Three Dog Night did. They took songs that until that time had recieved little attention in the US and made them their own. They arranged them, they worked out the guitar, organ and rhythmic parts, they interpreted the vocals in a way that were unforgettable. Their songs were the Top 40 mainstays of the early 70's and late 60's. You can NOT talk about US rock/pop music in those days and NOT talk about Three Dog Night. Their songs were everywhere during that time. Their harmonies were unforgettable.

How many times have people seen a frog named Jeremiah in plays, books, commercials, advertising promotions and even stores??---and that came from the broad audiences that Three Dog Night attracted and the appeal they had.

The Hall of Fame inductions are inducted under Hall of Fame guidelines; not some artificial guidelines set by some web board's posters.

Posted by Donna Byas on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 12:24pm


just a bizarre and false requirement and an artificaial barrier that bands should write their own songs to be in the Hall of Fame.

Elvis didn't write his own stuff. Temptations didn't write their own songs. Supremes didn't write their own songs. Aretha Franklin didn't write her own songs. Are you going to insist these people be removed from the Hall of Fame because they didn't write their own songs? Surely your answer is no.

So, these people didn't write their own songs, but why were they inducted? Because they interpreted and made these songs into what nobody else did with them; they made them part of the American culural landscape and part of musical hisotry.


I agree Writing your own song is a plus but not a must..

Some get in because they wrote their song ors becauce they didn't.. Many here on this forum are "HOLLYWOOD HPYED" and blinded by the light of the HYPE

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 12:38pm


"THAT is what Three Dog Night did. They took songs that until that time had recieved little attention in the US and made them their own. They arranged them, they worked out the guitar, organ and rhythmic parts, they interpreted the vocals in a way that were unforgettable. Their songs were the Top 40 mainstays of the early 70's and late 60's. You can NOT talk about US rock/pop music in those days and NOT talk about Three Dog Night. Their songs were everywhere during that time. Their harmonies were unforgettable"- Donna Byas

Donna...now THIS is a statement that we can both agree with. This captures what Three Dog Night was all about (remember, I lived through that era, too). Thank you!!

Peace!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 19:15pm


"THAT is what Three Dog Night did. They took songs that until that time had recieved little attention in the US and made them their own. They arranged them, they worked out the guitar, organ and rhythmic parts, they interpreted the vocals in a way that were unforgettable

LOL The produre/arranger on most of the hits was a top producer in Hollywood not the 3Dog.. He even produced " many of "The Grass Roots" and many other hit bands...
Yeah "Try a little Tenderness" had little attention.. or Mama told me not to Come"..????
I guess little attention .. is all from where you have been livin and hearing. like in Kansas with Dorthy ? or Mars ..???
Others were writen with them in mind.. True some were tunes that were not big on the hit list of the normal American Jsck or Jill..

Posted by mrxyz on Wednesday, 08.13.08 @ 19:47pm


Randy Newman's version of Mama Told Me Not to Come was widely received? This is news to the rest of the music world. His never received the air play that Three Dog's has over the years or even at the time of release. 3 Dog's was #1 in US AND England. Newman's wasn't close. Newman, too, called Cory and thanked him for making the song a success. That says a LOT.

Try a Little Tenderness was totally different with 3 Dog. The song hadn't been heard from for a good while until Cory did it.......again taking a song to further heights.

The producer did the arranging? This is news to Three Dog NIght and those who have read the literature about the group. Try Danny Hutton as doing the arranging--with copious suggestions and ideas from Cory, Chuck, Jimmy, Michael, et al. Hutton was the genious behind Three Dog Night's harmonious exploits. Danny had a much bigger hand in the production (and earlier and later produced other successful groups) and was seen as well respected as a producer by even Brian Wilson (Beach Boys superbrain).

Amazing how some try to alter history. Three Dog Night should get in for their arranging ability alone--much less the great performance work they did.

I thought it was spelled Dorothy.

Posted by Donna on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 11:44am


Donna...even though I prefer Otis Redding's version of "Try A Little Tenderness" over Three Dog Night's (personal preference), you do bring up some good points.

I don't even recall hearing Randy Newman's version of "Mama Told Me Not To Come" until I recently heard it on Rhapsody...UGH! When they decided on a song, they did work up their own arrangements to them. The only one I knew that was pretty much like the original was "Shambala". The original was done by B. W. Stevenson, who wrote it, and the arrangement was basically the same...not saying that's a bad thing.

Through a mutual friend, I found out that the keyboard player actually played in a popular band in Denver before joining Three Dog Night...interesting!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 12:01pm


I will even go a step further...when you hear modern-day versions of "Easy To Be Hard" in the musical "Hair", the arrangement usually sounds more like Three Dog Night's...which doesn't sound much like the original Broadway production. Sergio Mendes and "Brazil 66" did a version of it shortly after Three Dog Night's, and the arrangement was basically like theirs.

So, there's an example of how they altered the way a song from a Broadway show is performed...which I'll admit is no small feat!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 12:25pm


...by the way, Chuck Negron's vocals were fabulous on their version (Easy To Be Hard)..he sang that song with a lot of emotion!. It's one of my favorites from that era.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 12:30pm


Actually, when I listened to both versions of "Try A Little Tenderness", they're really not that much different...Redding's was about a year earlier, and both used Sam Cooke's general arrangement of the song from 1964, I believe. They're both very good versions of that song. The people who have recorded that song reads like a "who's who" of the recording industry. In the 40's and 50's, people like Mel Torme, Frank Sinatra, and Bing Crosby did it, which as you can imagine was totally different than the aformentioed versions.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 12:45pm


In contrast to Chuck's smooth singing on songs like "One," "Easy to be Hard" "An Old Fashioned Love Song" and "Pieces of April" he also had a rough voice on "Joy to the World" and "The Show Must Go On" "Show" was written by Leo Sayer, but I think it may have partially inspired one of the lyrical themes of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" about a rock star wanting to leave the show.

Baby, there's an enormous crowd of people they're all after my blood.
I Wish maybe they tear dpwn the walls of this
theater, let me out, let me out
Baby, I wish you'd help me escape, help me get away
Leave me, yes at my address far away from this masquerade.

In the Pink Floyd song of the same name on "The Wall" one of the lines is:

Do I have to stand wild-eyed in the spotlight
What a nightmare
Why don't I turn and run.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 14:25pm


Now comes the question...why aren't they in the hall?? To answer that question one needs to look no further than the people making the decisions. They seem to have an "axe to grind" with some artists, or they are led by their own personal tastes, neither of which should have any bearing on their choices. After all, THEY came up with the criteria!! Just look at Jann Wenner, the original "legend in his own mind" of Rock & Roll. That induction in itself belittles the process.

Like I suggested before, it would be easier to look at the inductees and decide who DOESN'T belong there and why to get a better idea of how these people think.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 08.17.08 @ 15:09pm


"Harmony's release was historic in that it led to the subsequent decision of performing in Pennsylvania's Three Rivers Stadium and other stadiums around the corner in support of its release". Isn't that in Pittsburgh??

There's a CMT blog talking about George Strait's singing in stadiums. They said that on the Beatles, Three Dog Night and a few groups less successfully have perfomred in stadiums.

They said who would have thought that--when the Beatles in the 60's was filling Shea Stadium--and Three Dog Night in the 70's during their prime---that a country act could fill a stadium???

These and lots of other quotes can be found by googling on the internet (or using your search engine of choice) to document Three Dog's NIght's marvelous stadium tour that sold out lots of huge venues. That is, if you don't want to read the books written by Chuck, Jimmy or Michael.

Induct Three Dog Night into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame now!!

Posted by Donna on Thursday, 08.28.08 @ 12:46pm


Donna...you're laying out some facts...it's cool!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 08.28.08 @ 13:07pm


They belong there but, it doesn't really matter if they get there or not. The major knock is the songs weren't their own. Yet, their versions are the ones that still get the airplay. In or out I still listen!

Posted by John on Friday, 09.5.08 @ 23:29pm


The 10 finalists for the new Oklahoma State Rock and Roll Song has been released.

Among the 10 finalists are Three Dog Night's version of "Never Been to Spain.......but I've been to Oklahoma...." which was written by native Oklahoman the late Hoyt Axton.

I think that says more than I could ever say....that the state of Oklahoma is considering a Three Dog Night song as the state rock and roll song.

These guys deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Others being considered include original rockabilly and Oklahoman Wanda Jackson's "Let's Have a Party"; Eric Clapton collaborater & Oklahoman J.J. Cale's "After Midnight"; rock and roll great and Tulsan Leon Russell's "Home Sweet Oklahoma"; and a man who needs no further introduction--the late Elvis Presley's "Heartbreak Hotel" written by Mae Boren Axton (the mother of Hoyt Axton who wrote 2 of Three Dog Night's biggest hits--Jeremiah was a Bullfrog as well as Never Been to Spain). The Axtons are the only mother-son combination to have written # 1 hit rock and roll songs.It is to be noted, too, that Hoyt Axton brought his 2 songs to Three Dog Night. Hoyt wanted 3 Dog Night to record them. That's notable.

The Flaming Lips, The Call, The All-American Rejects & The Ventures are among the other bands who have a song being considered in Oklahoma.

Pretty good company.


Posted by Donna on Sunday, 09.7.08 @ 15:38pm


Three Dog Night rocks our socks off! We love the music and think they are more than worthy of induction to the R&R Hall of Fame.

Posted by L & P on Saturday, 09.20.08 @ 07:33am


this band had more hits, and big hits, then most bands could even dream of. Great songs, great musicianship. A very deserving candidate for induction.

Posted by TimO on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 15:09pm


I have to agree that Three Dog Night is one of my favorites. I graduated from high school in 1971 and I attended 3 sold out shows in a the Indiana State Fair Coliseum which is huge. They were awesome in concert. They did many of their best hits in one take due to their talent. Chuck Negron has one of the best voices I have ever heard and they had a unique talent together as well. I have heard they did much of the arranging and I agree they belong in the hall of fame. They have gotten a bad rap over the years and don't deserve it but the record sales speaks for itself.

Posted by Connie from Indiana on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 23:06pm


How nice would it be to see Chuck,Cory, and Danny reunite on stage at the Hall of Fame. Three Dog Night bridged the 60's to to 70's. They were the biggest group in the country when I was a kid. I remember watching them on Dick Clark's New Years Rockin Eve. I'm just amazed that they are not in.

Posted by Bill on Monday, 11.3.08 @ 17:59pm


"Mama Told Me Not to Come" was a Three Dog Night cover of a song by The Animals. My response to an earlier post.

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Sunday, 11.16.08 @ 11:07am


Mr. Octagon, "Mama Told Me Not to Come" was written by Randy Newman in 1966 for The Animals. Newman's own version of the song was released in 1970 (and failed to crack the charts). Three Dog Night released their version that same year.

Posted by Keebord on Sunday, 11.16.08 @ 11:13am


Read Chuck Negron's book - Three Dog Nightmare and you will then know what TDN was about. Yes, they did write a few of their own tunes, but were better "story tellers" using the words of others.
Don't we give out something called an Oscar for people who are good at that?
Three Dog Night's a coming and the Hall will be a rockin'!!

Posted by Ed on Wednesday, 01.28.09 @ 21:29pm


This is in response to those who are questioning wether Three Dog night was a stadium band. I can assure you that the band came to Pittsburgh in 1972 to a brand new Three Rivers Stadium as the featured headline act (Leon Russell was warm-up). I know this for sure because I was lucky enough to get a seat in the nose bleed section before they sold out. I was there in the stadium. I am not saying that they are the only stadium band. I am saying that they pioneered the Stadium Concert concept. Yeah, the Beatles played Shea Stadium in 1964 but if you ever saw footage of the concert they carried their amps onstage with them. And they needn't have bothered to turn them on because there was no way that the sound reached the upper seats over the screaming. Three Dog Night was the first band to take an indoor act and adapt it to an outdoor amphitheater setting. they were the first band to incorporate jumbtrons (or what passed as jumbotrons in the early 70"s) into their act. If only for innovative Stadium Concert Tour concept they deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame

Posted by dan buccigrossi on Saturday, 02.7.09 @ 20:49pm


O.K., I have to serious up here - I go through spells when I hit the Madonna page.

Three Dog Night was the first band to take an indoor act and adapt it to an outdoor amphitheater setting. they were the first band to incorporate jumbtrons (or what passed as jumbotrons in the early 70"s) into their act. If only for innovative Stadium Concert Tour concept they deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame

Posted by dan buccigrossi on Saturday, 02.7.09 @ 20:49pm
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Interesting, but do baseball stadiums really count as "amphitheater" settings? I'm not really disputing that Three Dog Night weren't capable of being a mega-selling group w/a gaint fan base, but where does this fit in, in regards to Woodstock, & concerts like that? I'll admit right off that what you're mentioning is totally new to me. I was aware Zeppelin played at Kezar in 73, & CSN scheduled themselves around MLB in 1974, but I had no clue 3 Dog Night played 3 Rivers in 72. Was this a one-sht deal, or did they do other stadiums as well? Who really did the first stadium tour, as it were?

Posted by Cheesecrop on Sunday, 02.8.09 @ 09:09am


"Three Dog Night was the first band to take an indoor act and adapt it to an outdoor amphitheater setting."-dan buccigrossi

The Beatles played Red Rocks Ampitheatre in August of 1964, so there's one concert that I know of that pre-dates what you're talking about...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 02.8.09 @ 09:10am


Cheesecrop...during their 1964 and 1965 U.S. tours, the Beatles played several stadium and outddor venues, including the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville, Shea Stadium, Atlanta Stadium, Metropolitan in Minneapolis, Candlestick Park in San Francisco, the Hollywood Bowl, the aformentioned Red Rocks, etc... So even though it wasn't billed as a "stadium tour", the Beatles were the first to sell out a large number of stadiums (since they sold out every show they did, I'll assume this statement to be correct). He's right about one thing...you probably couldn't hear anything, since it probably resembled a banshee convention...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 02.8.09 @ 09:25am


Here's a list of the Beatles' 1966 concert schedule...lots of stadiums on here;

TOUR OF NORTH AMERICA, 1966
12 August International Amphitheatre, Chicago
13 August Olympia Stadium, Detroit
14 August Municipal Stadium, Cleveland
15 August D.C. Stadium, Washington DC
16 August Philadelphia Stadium, Philadelphia
17 August Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto
18 August Suffolk Downs Racetrack, Boston
19 August Mid-South Coliseum, Memphis
21 August Crosley Field, Cincinnati
21 August Busch Stadium, St Louis
23 August Shea Stadium, New York
25 August Seattle Coliseum, Seattle
28 August Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles
29 August Candlestick Park, San Francisco

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 02.8.09 @ 09:51am


Looking at that 1966 Beatles tour schedule. Sheesh, no wonder they gave up touring!

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 02.9.09 @ 05:42am


First, let me say categorically that Three Dog Night is the greatest and most successful "covers" band in the history of rock and roll.

Second, the band had a unique vocal combination and a great backing combo of talented musicians that enabled them to put a TDN "signature style" to practically any song they touched during their heyday years in the late 60s through the mid 70s.

A great cover song is not a pallid imitation of the original, but is one that emulates and evokes new melodic nuances and lyrical readings that makes the song come alive again in a new, vibrant way.

Very few artists are capable of doing covers successfully. One such artist is Jose Feliciano. As much as I love the original versions of the Door's "Light My Fire" and the Hollies' "The Air That I Breathe," I also enjoy Feliciano's covers of those and other songs. He brings something to these songs that makes them exciting to listen to again, while also imparting his unique Felicano-esque style.

This is exactly what Three Dog Night accomplished as a band in dozens of cover hit songs originally performed or composed by then aspiring or little known singer-songwriters of the likes of Elton John/Bernie Taupin, Harry Nilsson, Laura Nyro, and a host of others.

But as much as I would like for Three Dog Night to be rightfully inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I don't think that there is sufficient critical consensus by the decision-makers in the process to award the Dogs their due place there.

Why? Well, first of all TDN is an LA band. The founding members of the Hall are dye-in-the-wool alumni from the San Francisco-based Rolling Stone magazine (one of my favorite rags, mind you)and so very much into the Deadhead/Jefferson Airplane counter-cultural mindset that their prejudice against practically all things Angelino runs deep.

Second, the critics at the Hall of Fame are unappreciative of long-running cover bands in general, even though some of the greatest icons in the Hall began their careers precisely doing covers (think early Beatles and Led Zeppelin for instance). The fact that a band like Three Dog Night does covers as a rule and not an exception
must irk some of the critics in the Hall of Fame. But to their loss they forget how very difficult it is to make a cover song into a hit (again) precisely because it is a cover song!

The third reason why TDN will not be inducted is really their own fault: they have not reconciled themselves with outcast singer Chuck Negron and both Negron and the reminding singing members of TDN (Cory Wells and Danny Hutton) are enmeshed in the oldies circuit and haven't produced a full recording of new songs as a reunited trio since the unfortunate EP "It's a Jungle" in the early 80s. As such Three Dog Night's work is not even covered in the influential Rolling Stone Album Guide (shame on them--they do cover Spandau Ballet!).

I bet that a reunion album with the original lineup of Wells, Hutton and Negron with good solid material showcasing the Dogs' vocal and musical caliber would put the band back in the news again and gain them the Hall of Fame critical attention they deserve.
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But sadly, no, I don't think that Three Dog Night will be inducted in the Hall of Fame--but it's the Hall's loss to have cut out of the history of this great musical genre the work of band whose music was so meaningful to millions of rockers in the late 60s and 70s.

Posted by Nelson Rivera on Saturday, 01.9.10 @ 06:27am


There is a lot of misinformation here. The band was not interchangeable. There were four very talented musicians in Three Dog Night: Michael Allsup, Jimmy Greenspoon, Joe Schermie (RIP), and Floyd Sneed.
They made the arrangements their own. They all were innovative virtuosos if you would do the research.
Michael and Jimmy were practically musical prodigies playing in clubs with fake IDs. Hendricks let Michael jam with him in a room full of guitarists. Jimmy Studies piano most of his life and was called the "Intro King" for all the great things he came up with. If you listen to his "Rinky Tink" piano playing on "Coming Down Your Way" you will be blown away. Tina Turner said Joe Schermie had an amazing sense of rhythm blending latin, R&B, and rock. And drummers everywhere today say Floyd Sneed was their inspiration. Now go back and review the criteria for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I could write a book about their influence and pioneering in rock and roll.

And the reason they were not at Woodstock is because their management scheduled them at another gig. They were on a mad paced schedule and did two albums a year for their contract.
The managers sucked up as much money as quickly as they could from this talented group.
And check the time line. They were one of the first AMERICAN bands to fill enormous stadiums in 1971. Then in 1972 they did a world tour and filled large arenas.

Three Dog Night contributed much to Rock and Roll.
They combined their own musical experience and talent in Rock, Pop, R&B, and Gospel to make unique new music.

There is definitely some kind of bias or memory lapse with the judges.



Posted by Barbara on Wednesday, 01.27.10 @ 23:24pm


This is a post long after the last one and I sure hope Gitarzan is still around. You obviously have a bug up your you know what for Three Dog Night. 21 top 40's etc etc and they don't deserve to be in the Rock-N-Roll Hall of Fame? Who are you kidding? TDN DEFINED music in the early 70's. What planet were you on then? You notice you're the only one in this comment section saying they don't desrve it? You're a very wierd person.

Posted by Bob on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 16:13pm


I happened to like them fine...I just don't see where they had any influence or innovation. they were okay...period. "Okay" doesn't get you into a HoF. If they "defined music in the early 70's" (which they didn't), then it really wouldn't say much about the music scene back then, would it?

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 19:12pm


When did songwriting become criteria to be in the Hall of Fame?? Elvis, Aretha, the Ronettes, Frankie Valli & The 4 Seasons and several others didn't write their own songs either.

TDN's legacy to the 70s is more significant than half the people already in the Hall of Fame.

Posted by Frank on Tuesday, 05.18.10 @ 22:52pm


It blows my mind how a band so dynamic and talented like Three Dog Night hasn't been inducted. Their influence on Rock n Roll in the 70's was dominant. And yet some relatively obscure Punk Rock bands are in? Something's totally wrong with this picture.

Posted by R. Kendall on Friday, 06.4.10 @ 23:54pm


As I just posted on the Kingston Trio portion of this site, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will continue to be a joke as long as Three Dog Night, the Kingston Trio and the Grassroots are left out. I'm sure that there are other worthy artists that are not in that should be but those are the three that stand out to me. I have absolutely no respect for the R&R Hall of Fame.

Posted by Rick Wynne on Friday, 06.11.10 @ 22:20pm


To their credit, getting up on stage and singing "Jeremian was a bullfrong / he was a good friend of mine" with a straight face takes a certain shamelessness.

Posted by Ralph on Wednesday, 07.7.10 @ 10:45am


Dude you have no clue.You ever see Michael Allsup,who used to jame with Hendrix on guitar.Or Greenspoon on keys who is one of the top talents ever.Listen to Chest Fever if you would.You going to tell me Blondie is more deserving than Three Dog or Chicago.Or Doobies,or.........Look at all the number one hits.Try taking in a concert before you talk your ignorance.Or go watch Blondie

Posted by Kitarzanduh on Thursday, 07.8.10 @ 19:07pm


Look at the number one hits...hmmm, all TWO of them? Also, Greenspoon and Allsup were just in the back-up band...the three vocalists were the focal point of Three Dog Night. So, if you "jammed" with Hendrix, that automatically makes you a great guitar player...spare me!!!

Get in line with the other "afficienados" who like to degrade others to bolster their favorite...

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 07.8.10 @ 20:14pm


There are so many bands already in the Hall of Fame that don't belong there. Does Three Dog Night belong...of course, how could they not. I mean how many other bands that have been around as long can basically boast almost the same core line-up?

Posted by Joe From Buffalo on Saturday, 07.17.10 @ 18:59pm


Oh and get it right Gitarzan, 3 #1 hits and a truckload of top 40 hits!!!

Posted by Joe From Buffalo on Saturday, 07.17.10 @ 19:08pm


I like 3 dog and Greenspoon sho can play them keys.. I guess that would be like saying Watts is Jaggers drummer..? LOL . They should have good chance in getting in,,Come on Gitarzan you're to cool..!! .Keep rocken!!

Posted by mrxyzomg on Saturday, 07.17.10 @ 20:44pm


I don't believe that Three Dog Night will ever be inducted as long as the Hall of Fame is being run by the sorry F**ks that edit Rolling Stone Magazine. Rolling Stone used to be the voice of reason and revolution. Now they are simply members of the establishment. Something we fought against 40 - 45 years ago. Rock is dying a slow death. Someone needs to save it.

Posted by Spanky on Wednesday, 11.3.10 @ 04:54am


I agree with donna. When I saw THREE DOG NIGHT at sixteen steppenwolf opened and five bands later the dog headlined. I'll never forget it. I gag at ABBA but someone likes them. I almost like the list of considered better than those accepted!

Posted by chuck on Friday, 12.17.10 @ 22:49pm


Three dog night should definitely be inducted into the hall. how many other artists in the hall did not write there own songs.how many did the Supremes write? let em in the people have spoken

Posted by Ralph on Monday, 02.14.11 @ 01:46am


No band was bigger 1969-72. Do some homework and see for yourself what they accomplished. The fact that they had 3 lead singers should be enough to get them a spot in the Hall. I seriously doubt there is anyone that was over 8 years old when Joy To The World was released that couldn't tell you the words today. That's impact. Seeing people focus on what they did not do instead of what they did do is disturbing and misguided. They rocked the world and when you hear them today it brings back memories of a better time. Three Dog Night deserve induction into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, even more than most that have already made it in.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 02.15.11 @ 06:37am


Yes. One of the best ever. You can understand every single one of their lyrics .......beautiful voices....taking rock to a level and direction seldom if ever seen since.

Posted by jim on Saturday, 05.21.11 @ 01:28am


the Dog were one of the greatest bands ever...pieces of april was one of the two most beautiful songs of all time....without you by nilsson was the other...as a lifelong singer...and guitarist since 1965 I have many favorites....the everly bros.,roy orbison, sam cooke, barbara lewis, the beatles,the byrds, buffalo springfield, spirit and many others...Three Dog Night was one of the best bands ever...they belong in the r and r hof...God bless!

Posted by steve on Tuesday, 06.28.11 @ 18:37pm


Now that "RAP" artists have found their way into the "Rock and Roll" hall of fame, those wanting to discredit Three Dog Night as a "covers" act can focus their attention where it really belongs, on the "Beat Poets" who've done nothing more than "SAMPLE" their way to fame. What about that? Three Dog Night were and still are Rock and Roll!!!

Posted by Les B. Aberdeen WA. on Friday, 07.8.11 @ 05:17am


If only you'd have thought to, somehow, work Madonna into that post you could've gone without leaving a single cliche unturned.

Posted by DarinRG on Friday, 07.8.11 @ 06:13am


Grandmaster Flash and Run DMC didn't sample that much.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 09.3.11 @ 16:22pm


Three Dog Night belongs in the Hall of Fame. Certainly before bands like Guns & Roses.
Count the hits.

FANTASTIC BAND

Posted by RLANG0630 on Tuesday, 12.20.11 @ 17:14pm


Uh oh... Here we go again!

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 12.20.11 @ 17:27pm


If you want to go by commercial sucess than Guns n Rooses have sold 100 million worldwide. Three Dog Night don't even come close.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 12.21.11 @ 07:48am


I'm surprised they aren't Hall of Famers now, They definately should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and any other Hall of Fame they're eligable for.

Posted by Sue on Tuesday, 01.17.12 @ 22:22pm


Gitarzan, your an idiot. Three Dog Night was one of the biggest bands of the 70's and definitely desreve to be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. In the short time they were together they sold over 40 million records, they charted 21 top 40 hits with 3 number 1 hits, So what if they were a vocal group, Cory, Danny and especially Chuck paid their dues. and what do you think the Supremes, The 4-Tops, The Temptations and many other groups were? TDN is one of the best vocal groups of all time bar none. And to dis Joe Schermie,Floyd Sneed, Skip Konte, Dennis Belfield,Paul Kingery Steve Ezzo, Mike Keely, Ron Stockert and the other fine musicians who made up The TDN line up over the years is just wrong. Every songwriter of that time whanted TDN to do their song because they were that good. Not to induct TDN into The R&RHOF would be a travesty. They deserve to be there.

Posted by Mark Lockhart on Wednesday, 02.15.12 @ 14:16pm


Mark, even though I don't have anything against Three Dog Night your comment is filled with the usual cream that is excessively sprayed over any hardcore fan's commentary, this cream may make comments look nice (like real cream on a cake would) but they ultimately don't say anything of substance and just make people's teeth rot. For instance:

"Three Dog Night was one of the biggest bands of the 70's"

What is this based on?

"Paid their dues"

This comment is thrown around like hot potatoes, nevertheless, it still doesn't mean anything. In fact, it is one of the most boring, overused and ultimately meaningless statements that reflects the commonly propagated notion of "hard work" being its own reward. It is part of the plebeian mentality that one has to prove something to someone of higher social or economic standing (In this case you're indirectly suggesting TDN somehow must prove something to the suits who run the Hall of Fame. I say this is BS, TDN don't have to prove anything to anybody).

"what do you think the Supremes, The 4-Tops, The Temptations and many other groups were?"

Ah, I see. Dumping on other groups to bolster your own pet project, that's low.

"TDN is one of the best vocal groups of all time bar none."

The first half of this statement is something that can be worked on to construct an actual argument, the second part ("bar none") tosses any potential legitimacy of this statement out the window.

"Every songwriter of that time whanted TDN to do their song because they were that good"

Sources?

"Not to induct TDN into The R&RHOF would be a travesty."

Yes... to their fans.

Oh and let's not forget the very first comment in your paragraph, apparently you felt it was more important to call someone an idiot than it was to say something that would be relevant to your commentary like "TDN is a fantastic band" or "To dismiss TDN is to dismiss an important part of music history" or something like that to generalize what you are about to say, instead you resorted to a personal attack which is why I found it difficult to take anything else you said afterward seriously. God forbid someone can have a different opinion on TDN than you!!!

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 02.15.12 @ 15:43pm


Oh my goodness gracious ,,,,! I would have thought these musicians
would have been in years ago!
I am sure most all would agree!

Posted by Happy on Sunday, 05.13.12 @ 13:28pm


TDN should most definitely be in the hall. Their success from 1969 through 1973 was unmatched, in terms of number of hit songs on the charts. They took music and influenced culture, with songs like One, Never Been to Spain, Celebrate (became a cheer at my HS), Joy to the World (never heard it in church btw). They should be considered as one of the all time top vocal groups. The way they used harmony and counterpoint to support and embellish melody was unique and inspiring, particularly when compared with the dreary and morose music of bands like the Doors. Can you name 5 bands that used vocals as effectively? I can not. Their ability to recognize the potential greatness of a song, and then actually bring the song to life was uncanny.

Its not mandatory that they wrote their own material. What is important is that they were able to take music and make it uniquely their own in such a way that evokes passion and feeling in others, and inspire imitation, which they did particularly with other vocal bands. To this they were perhaps the best of their day. At least, that is what the charts support.

This of course is my opinion. I had a minor in music in college so take it for what its worth--not much probably. A lot of so called good music is really garbage, just counter culture crap done for the sake of being different. My $.02

Posted by Tony on Saturday, 06.9.12 @ 11:43am


What do Three Dog Night and Bon Jovi have in common?
They both have songs with the same title as Christmas carols. 3DN had their biggest hit in 1971 with "Joy to the World" while Bon Jovi included a song called "Silent Night" on their second album "7800" Fahrenheit"

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Thursday, 08.16.12 @ 00:13am


Yes they most certainly should be in the hall of fame. In 69, 70 and 71 AM ruled and FM was pretty much still considered underground. Three Dog Night were just as popular as C.C.R and the Beatles. It's true that they did not write much of their own material but they were so good at taking other writers music and making it their own that it didn't really matter to most people. If you listen to their version of Lennon and McCartney's It's For You you will understand what I mean. Their vocal abilities were a cut above most performers of the day and their harmonies were so tight it could give you goose bumps. They also launched the careers of many up and coming writers of the time such as Paul Williams, Hoyt Axton, Laura Nyro, Dave Loggins and so many more.

Their music was part of the backdrop to much of our youth and the girls loved them. If you wanted to make out with a young lady back them you needed to have at least one of their albums on hand. I, for one, lost my virginity with their "It Ain't Easy" album playing. To be precise it was during the bridge in "Out In The Country". To this day that song makes me smile. If you dug down into almost anyone's record collection back then you would probably find at least one of their albums or a 45 or two. Of course the ones who would never admit to having any of their records would usually hide them well away from their Sabbath and Zeppelin albums. I remember one particular house party in 1971 where, after we ruined 4 of the host's mothers best silver ware hot-kniving some awesome blond Lebanese hash, we sat down to listen to Sabbath's new album "Master Of Reality". One second we are vegging out listening to "Children Of The Grave" and the next we are all up rocking old school and playing air guitar to "Mama Told Me Not To Come". It was great until some idiot ruined everything when he tried to get us all to sing a Partridge Family song. How he made it out that house alive is still a mystery.

Three Dog Night definitely deserve to be in the hall of fame and I hope it happens soon.





Posted by Bob on Monday, 11.19.12 @ 02:39am


Bob you should come up with the cases for all uninducted artists.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 11.19.12 @ 10:51am


HALL OF FAMERS WHOSE SONGS WERE RECORDED BY THREE DOG NIGHT

The Band (Chest Fever)
Elton John (Lady Samantha, Your Song)
Joni Mitchell (Night in The City)
Randy Newman (Cowboy, I Think It's Going To Rain Today, Mama Told Me Not to Come, My Old Kentucky Home)
Laura Nyro (Eli's Coming)
Allen Toussaint (Freedom For The Stallion, Play Something Sweet [Brickyard Blues]
Traffic (Feelin' Alright?, Heaven Is In Your Mind)
Stevie Wonder (Never Dreamed You'd Leave in Summer)

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Sunday, 12.16.12 @ 01:09am


Well, another year passed and 3DN is still NOT in the Hall. How many years are we gonna have to fight this fight? I am so glad that Wanda Jackson and Leon Russell and Heart have made it, but golly you would have thought Three Dog would have been there by now.

Posted by Donna on Wednesday, 01.30.13 @ 02:31am


won't it be fun if they were IN..?

Posted by Happy on Monday, 07.1.13 @ 00:53am


3 Dog Night brought us some of the greatest music of that time! They should absolutely be inducted into the RR HOF! If u don't think other bands, including the Brittish, were watching and listening, you're high.

Posted by bill on Thursday, 01.16.14 @ 06:15am


I really think Three Dog Night should be inducted in RRHOF. The 3 singer system was innovative & songs like ONE & JOY TO THE WORLD were MONSTER hits. People still sing them today & groups have covered their songs.

They had an endless string of hits from 70-77. My sister & I were born in the 70's & remember the songs fondly. It was amazing seeing Three Dog Night filled venues & stadiums. Standing room only crowds.

With Neil Diamond,Linda Ronstadt,Black Sabbath & other (popiular )popular 70's groups being inducted recently,it should help Three Dog Night. KING

Posted by KING on Tuesday, 02.18.14 @ 14:37pm


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