Eligible since: 2000 (The 2001 Induction Ceremony)
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Inducted into Rock Hall Projected in 2027 (ranked #226) .
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Television @ Wikipedia
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me2, I would not want to be in your position...the joy of listening to Television is one of life's great pleasures. Start listening to them, along with other underground and indie acts, then you'll come back hear and realize just why Manilow, Diamond and Mellencamp don't deserve induction.
Posted by Casper on Wednesday, 02.14.07 @ 13:50pm
Casper the friendly ghost,
Posted by me2 on Thursday, 02.15.07 @ 14:09pm
Kit: "The Television Rule applies here; One album isn't enough, no matter how good."
Posted by shawn mc on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 13:54pm
I'm not sure where Kit first expressed the 'Television Rule', but does that rule also apply to The Sex Pistols? They only had one proper record of note. It was a hell of a record, though.
Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 15:23pm
Their second album, Adventure, has only one song of note (Foxhole) and the unbearable tension and interlocking solos of Marquee Moon is replaced by keyboards and soft backing vocals. Just a really dissapointing affair. I haven't checked their 90s reunion album out, but I get a bad vibe off those.
Posted by Kit on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 18:11pm
Like I have said before, I think bands are "underground" for a reason
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 20:21pm
A band may be "underground" (as the public perceives it) for any number of reasons. Insinuating that it's because they're not good or not influential, which is what you're doing, is just incredibly stupid of you. Musicians tend to be more informed than the public anyway, so it's not unusual for a band that is incredibly influential among other musicians to be virtually unknown to the public, or "underground." Most people couldn't tell you much about Citizen Kane aside from the scenes that have become cultural canon, and it was a complete commercial failure when it released, but film critics unanimously recognize its importance. The same rules apply. Influence and innovation are important. Popularity is irrelevant.
Posted by William on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 21:04pm
"Dezmond, I believe I expressed the television rule in Blind Faith"
Posted by shawn mc on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 23:34pm
So the Sex Pistols are an exception to the Television Rule. Fair enough. That makes sense.
Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 06:47am
Take it easy William....first, I like some more obscure bands - i.e, I like Particle, yet virtually no one has ever heard of them.
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 19:29pm
"Influence and innovation are important. Popularity is irrelevant"
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 19:37pm
"Interestingly, seems that you read into my statment as being the latter explanation...I guess that's your choice, but I guess that makes you the bigger idiot..."
Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 20:08pm
"I highly doubt that the band Television is very influential."
Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 20:28pm
William, think you need another outlet there.......
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 20:47pm
"U2 would like a word with you outside."
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 20:54pm
With regards to pouplarity and commercial success:
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 21:04pm
"Boy, that's a long list of bands....Oh, yeah, and U-2 sounds just like Television, they are very similar bands...."
Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 21:24pm
Like I said, not much of a catolog of bands they influenced....when u cite the "garage rock revival", you are reaching.....
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 21:44pm
Not a reach at all.
Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 06.12.07 @ 21:50pm
"Like I said, not much of a catolog of bands they influenced....when u cite the "garage rock revival", you are reaching.."
Posted by shawn mc on Wednesday, 06.13.07 @ 00:01am
We'll have to agree to disagree....I just think a band like TV is minor in the big picture of rock music.....don't think you will see them in the RHOF
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 06.13.07 @ 01:18am
Boy, that's a long list of bands....Oh, yeah, and U-2 sounds just like Television, they are very similar bands....
Posted by Starr on Sunday, 06.24.07 @ 12:39pm
"We'll have to agree to disagree....I just think a band like TV is minor in the big picture of rock music.....don't think you will see them in the RHOF"
Posted by Grumbling on Thursday, 08.16.07 @ 04:26am
Michael Stipe also advocated for Television's induction after this year's ceremony. Momentum is building...
Posted by c.w. on Thursday, 08.16.07 @ 05:21am
I am so excited....
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 08.16.07 @ 05:33am
I'm still divided....as much as I love Marquee Moon...I agree with Kit's ruling. One album does not a HOF-worthy career make. The one exception is the Sex Pistols, but their shenanigans outside of the album played a large part.
Posted by Casper on Thursday, 08.16.07 @ 18:10pm
OK, I've been thinking about it, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't give a bullcrap about how many albums an artist released, or how many albums OF NOTE they released.
Posted by Liam on Thursday, 01.31.08 @ 17:58pm
But seriously, why should it be just artists with one album that get locked out? Why not 2? Or even 3?
Posted by Liam on Saturday, 03.1.08 @ 12:49pm
...a song that Percy Sledge didn't even write, by the way. The significance of "When A Man Loves A Woman" and Percy Sledge is that it was the first gold record for Atlantic Records, which was founded by the Ertegun brothers...who also were co-founders of...The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame!!! Hmmmm....??? Think the crew was being a little biased there???
Posted by Terry on Saturday, 03.1.08 @ 13:06pm
Television was the first non-country, bluegrass or blues band to play at the Mecca of punk that was CBGBs. When they did that Television made a platform for up-and-comers I.E. the Ramones (who have been inducted).
Posted by Brian on Saturday, 03.1.08 @ 21:15pm
You either ignored or else were oblivious to his point. There's no suitable excuse for either, though.
Posted by William on Saturday, 03.1.08 @ 22:56pm
The five most prominent CBGB groups should all be included; Television is the only one that isn't.
Posted by Elastic Man on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 03:54am
Yes, U2 did embarass the hall committee on purpose during their induction, for the Hall has no respect w/o hugely influential bands like Television, Roxy Music and The Smiths.
Posted by M Rourke on Sunday, 05.3.09 @ 21:08pm
Here's one interesting question:
Posted by Julien Peter Benney on Thursday, 05.28.09 @ 22:28pm
I guess they did, but Television wasn't high enough on the HoF's priority list. U2's Larry Mullen, Jr. (not Bono, as some believe) gave at his induction a list of the artists he thought should be in the HoF, just like James Hetfield did. "We never would have got out of my kitchen in our town in Dublin had it not been for people like the Sex Pistols, Tom Verlaine and Television, Roxy Music, Patti Smith. These people are in our Rock and Roll Hall of Fame." Since then, two of them are inducted, while the other two have yet to get a nomination.
Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 05.29.09 @ 16:32pm
If I don't think Love gets even with Forever Changes, then TV is shouln't get in based on Marquee Moon. Personally I never understood the love affair the music press had with this album, which I owned at one point. Always sounded like Country Joe and the Fish, but that's just me. To my uneducated ears it always sounded like a belated late 60s album.
Posted by astrodog on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 20:13pm
Influence: Many bands have cited Television as an influence, and their mark is obvious on the garage rock revival scene. 20
Posted by GFW on Thursday, 04.19.12 @ 13:48pm
The fact that Television is "cited" as an influence is meaningless. The more relvant question is how did they stylistically impact music. I'd say not that much.
Posted by astrodog on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 00:49am
And just to be clear, I don't mean to bash TV or anyone else. I actually love the whole punk era. But I loath the laziness and hipsterism associated with how it is approached where commonsense gets turned completely upside down. Which bands made the best music? Which bands had the biggest impact? Which were the most innovative or creative? These should be the primary considerations, not which band makes me seem sophisticated, which is really a perjorative term anyway.
Posted by astrodog on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 01:07am
I think the greatness is the brilliant guitar playing, and the songs are pretty damn good. That said, it's not like the Sex Pistols where they had a massive impact, so one brilliant album isn't enough.
Posted by GFW on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 13:05pm
With MM you always get some theory about the interplay of the guitars, etc. It's never the lyrics or the musical composition or the song quality. The whole theory about the guitar playing has always been a bit desperate. The only song I ever liked was See No Evil. I think it says more about the state of music journalism than anything else. Old habits die hard.
Posted by astrodog on Friday, 04.20.12 @ 20:26pm
I was at a party about 5 years ago with people mostly a little older than me, in their mid-late 40s. After a few hours of hearing the stereo playing the tired "classic rock" station with its standard boring playlist of artists whose songs I've heard thousands of times (Led Zeppelin, Elton John, Fleetwood Mac, Journey) I decided to grab a CD from the car of various tunes I had recorded over the years. I begged to have it put on just to break the monotony, and one of the songs was Marquee Moon which came on. Nobody knew who it was, and after about 5 minutes someone requested that it be shut off.
Posted by classicrocker on Saturday, 04.21.12 @ 02:27am
classicrocker - I don't know if it's just because I'm drunk, but that was one of the best arguments I've ever read on this site. Bravo! I've had almost a very similar experience with Marquee Moon at a party.
Posted by Gassman on Saturday, 04.21.12 @ 03:36am
Man, you guys need to go to cooler parties. ;)
Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 04.21.12 @ 04:38am
Elton John, Fleetwood Mac and Journey music at a party?
Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Saturday, 04.21.12 @ 04:57am
wait, elton john and fleetwood mac as party music?
Posted by GFW on Saturday, 04.21.12 @ 08:39am
Thanks Gassman. I was half asleep when I wrote that after watching a ballgame till 1 in the morning. I wasn't sure if it would make sense.
Posted by classicrocker on Saturday, 04.21.12 @ 12:14pm
I stand corrected. I now realize that despite what my ears are telling me, if I would only stand on one foot at midnight during the full moon in Cancer between the latitudes of 41 and 43 degrees while heavily drunk and blindfolded, the unadorned genius of Marquee Moon while magically emerge after about two hours of playing the album on repeat. Forgive my phllistine attitude.
Posted by astrodog on Saturday, 04.21.12 @ 19:10pm
yeah, it's a real pain keeping in the exact latitudes.
Posted by GFW on Sunday, 04.22.12 @ 08:45am
YES YES YES YES YES
Posted by BulmaPunkRocker on Sunday, 07.6.14 @ 23:36pm
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