Mariah Carey

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible in: 2015 (The 2016 Induction Ceremony)


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Vision of Love (1990)
All I Want for Christmas Is You (1994)
One Sweet Day (1995)
Always Be My Baby (1995)

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Will Mariah Carey be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
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Mariah should be in the hall no doubt

Posted by j on Tuesday, 01.16.07 @ 21:21pm


Of Course, she's the Queen of R&B.

Posted by Master on Saturday, 01.20.07 @ 19:46pm


Mariah No bloody way

rock is better than rnb

Posted by zman on Saturday, 01.27.07 @ 19:25pm


There is no question. Her Fantasy (Remix) revolutionized music today. The first pop artist to work with a rapper...she's influenced every popular artist today not to mention the show American Idol. You can't go anywhere with out hearing a hit of hers, past or present, on the radio. Plus the fact this woman composes all of her own material, I would say it's not even a contest. Oh yeah did I mention she can sing too? The range should be merrit alone.

Posted by Matt on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 11:08am


Mariah is the 90's, undisputed, Queen of Pop and has proven in this new millenium, that she is still a force to be reckoned with. I think she will be a dead Lock in 2017--and as others have pointed out, the Vocal range alone is a testament to her inevitable induction!

Posted by greekmenrule on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 12:15pm


of course she will! She is a living Legend thus far!

Posted by hotness on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 14:11pm


While its pretty easy to dislike someone like her, it is undeniable what influence Mariah Carey has had on the music industry. She doesn't seem to get any credit, but she has revolutionized music in her own way and will be remembered for a spectacular voice and her way with a melody in her songwriting.
Sorry guys, but I think it's undeniable....

Posted by whydoesitmatter? on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 14:32pm


Well, this is NO-BRAINER. Of course she will be inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She has affected the very landscape of music as we know it today. You don't tie Elvis Presley for most #1's AND you don't surpass the Beatles for most weeks at #1 and not get into the HOF. She's a shoe-in for 2015. Go MC!

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 14:49pm


She's an Icon to all young inspiring singers. You only need to watch shows like X Factor and American Idol to see the whole objective of these shows are to recreate a Mariah Carey.

The Best selling female artist of alltime, shifting more records in a decade than any other female artist.
The biggest achievement this Diva has accomplished, was to make the impossible grand comeback She did after being written off, proving her talent without Columbia/Matolla.


Posted by Max Carren on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 15:53pm


Of Course!! She deserves it. She's inspire everyone to try n hit that high note. Lol. She mesmerize us w.her music
N voice! Mariah is da best !

Posted by Frank! on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 19:32pm


Definitely, no question(s) needed to be asked. Mariah Carey deserves, belongs, and is eligible to be inducted in in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2015. Her music is timeless and has influence so many of her many fellow music artists and up and coming/aspiring artists. She's the best selling female artist of all time and has had more #1 hits than any other female artists. She's been active in the music business for over 17 years and only need 8 years to be inducted to the Rock & Roll HOF.

Posted by Jeane on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 20:30pm


Mariah is clearly a respected supertalent in the business...a real contender. I look forward to it. Mariah Carey, 2015..right where she belongs...inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame.

Posted by mike on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 21:22pm


yep yep.. mariah is the best! i love her.. and she deserves it.. goodluck mimi! we.. yer lambs love yu so much! =) yu can make it!

She's an Icon to all young inspiring singers! i agree to this..

Posted by michael on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 21:43pm


yep yep.. mariah is the best! i love her.. and she deserves it.. goodluck mimi! we.. yer lambs love yu so much! =) yu can make it!

She's an Icon to all young inspiring singers! i agree to this..

Posted by michael on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 21:43pm


yep yep.. mariah is the best! i love her.. and she deserves it.. goodluck mimi! we.. yer lambs love yu so much! =) yu can make it!

She's an Icon to all young inspiring singers! i agree to this..

Posted by michael on Wednesday, 02.28.07 @ 21:43pm


oh mariah is a shoe-in in this category, no doubt! go mimi! we love ya dahhhling! :D

Posted by ken on Thursday, 03.1.07 @ 01:19am


Mariah you are in The Hall Of Fame just!!! We love you and you will be the Queen of R&B in the history of music.

thank you for your music!
FABIO (Italy)

Posted by Fabio on Thursday, 03.1.07 @ 03:04am


I should have been there already dah!

Posted by javier on Thursday, 03.1.07 @ 06:15am


Mariah deserves this. She deserves to be recognized for 16 years of working herself to the ground and changing music in a way where many people try to recreate her mix of r&b/pop/hip hop and fail. She's a unique aspect of music history and there won't ever be another that will achieve what shes achieved thus far

Posted by Shaquana on Thursday, 03.1.07 @ 08:27am


Hi.

Why is Mariah not in it already?
I mean she is a ledgend! Surely
she will be put into it soon, yes?

thanks

Matty

Posted by Matthew on Thursday, 03.1.07 @ 09:14am


Nobody deserves this more than Mariah Carey. She's earned this 4 her & her fans... MC is just shockingly talented, and beautiful (inside & out) Evasen - South Africa

Posted by Evasen on Thursday, 03.1.07 @ 12:07pm


It doesn't matter how much albums and how many number one singles you have.the ROF doesn't pay attention to that. It only focuses on the artist's contribution and prepetuation and evolution of rock and roll. Is Mariah one of the most successful arists now, yes. Is she one of the greatest artists ever, barely. According to the criteria.

Posted by Anthony on Thursday, 03.1.07 @ 12:32pm


You are all the same person.

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 03.1.07 @ 17:07pm


Mariah Carey is a LEGEND!!! GO MARIAH!!

Posted by XTINA on Friday, 03.2.07 @ 05:10am


Of course!!!Mariah's a living legend and with those multi octaves she have....man!!!!Seh totally deserve to be inducted but she wrote all her songs and she's the no. 1 female artist of all time. Go MIMI

Posted by kenshin99 on Friday, 03.2.07 @ 05:38am


Mariah is the BEST SELLING CURRENT ARTIST OF ALL TIME!!!! There is no reason why she should not be allowed into the hall of fame... SHe's inspired so many new singers and are cahnging the way music is going...

Posted by LauraLuvsMariah on Friday, 03.2.07 @ 17:19pm


no bloody way. just because u sell 100 million doesn't mean your a lock for it. you can;t even sing like a normal person you squeel

Posted by simon on Sunday, 03.4.07 @ 03:16am


There's a lot of what ifs on this one. The only way to consider her is to forget the second half of her career altogether because it has been horific. Then you have to wonder about her early career seeing as how she was just a puppet and Tommy Mottola was pulling the strings.

It's a lot harder to sell records when you have to actually get out there and work for it.

Posted by AZ Dave on Sunday, 03.4.07 @ 10:33am


I think she will eventually.
It may not be the 1st year cause some people may think of her as being too pop, but her voice & her obvious influences are undeniable.
She will enter the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
If not no other female artist since her debut will not be allowed into the R&R H.O.F. cause she's influenced virtually every female artist since.

Posted by Kathy on Sunday, 03.4.07 @ 12:03pm


Mariah stood the test of times. Bounced back from a very publicized humiliation. The "Breakdown". Came back stronger than ever. She writes each and every one of her songs except for the very very very few covers. She owns the 90's and is still coming strong. 17 #1's, 5 #1 albums, sold over 200 million records. And she is the best selling female artist EVER!! You guys are complete fools for not giving it to her yet. You guys re blind and very foolish. She should have had this when she was honored as artist of the decade 8 years ago.

JUST GIVE IT TO HER ALREADY

Posted by Curtis on Sunday, 03.4.07 @ 12:03pm


No, she's just a good singer. She's not a great rock artist. Would you put her on an equal footing with Janis Joplin, Aretha Franklin,Tina Turner, Patti Smith...?

Posted by roméo on Monday, 03.5.07 @ 10:18am


Why do Mariah fans have to lie and say she is the best selling female artist of all time? She isnt. She isnt even second. It goes Madonna, Celine then Mariah.

She is a total light-weight. Her lyrics are laughable. She is not a respected artist in the industry. Case in point. When VH-1 did its "100 Greatest Female Artist of All time" back in 2000 I believe, taken from a poll of OTHER female artists and entertainers, Mariah did NOT even make the TOP 100! Check it out. She didn't even make the TOP 100! That right there shows she is not a respected artist. All she has is her voice and she is a terrible concert artist which tells me she is more studio than live artist.

No she will not be inducted. She needs to learn how to write some deep/profound songs for a change, write some actual music, pick up an instrument.

Posted by Kim on Monday, 03.5.07 @ 22:42pm


I would say Whitney Houston influenced more of the over the top divas than Mariah. Mariah is a Whitney clone. Neither has any songwriting talent. Madonna influenced just about every female artist that actually makes a difference. Tori Amos, Alanis, Kelly Clarkson, Christina Aguilera, and many many others. There is a website that lists various quotes from very prominent female artist, who have depth to their music, who say it was Madonna who influenced them. Now of course some tarts were influenced by Madonna as well but that comes with being such a force in the industry.

Celine has also been more influential than Mariah. Mariah is seen as inconsequential. She may have great sales but that means diddly squat! Her actual music has been embarassingly puff.

Posted by Hillary on Wednesday, 03.7.07 @ 21:37pm


mariah is the best singer ever so YES !!!!
she deserves it al lot !!!

mike

Posted by mike on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 01:26am


No way no bloody way. she isnt not influential or innovating or inspiration.

She can't even right a song but herself or player her own instruments

she squeals like a pig & does all this crap with her stupid hand FOR GOD SAKE MARIAH SING WITH YOUR HANDS BY YOUR SIDE

id rather want rush, judas priest, iron maiden, Anthrax, slayer, megadeth, metallica & motorhead in the rock hall than this piece of pre processed & prepackaged stuff


Posted by Martin on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 05:00am


Mariah is finally deserved the R/R Hall of Fame.She scored the most #1 17 #1 hits along side the Beatles and Elvis.She is the biggest selling female recording artist in history.She sold over 190-200 million albums in world-wide.She had 5 Grammy Awards.10 American Music Awards;9 Soul Train Music Awards,16 World Music Awards,and 23 Billboard Music Awards.As a songwriter,she a lot of BMI Awards,and ASCAP Awards.VH1 voted Mariah in 1997 for Artist of the Year.In 1999,she is named Artist of the Decade.In 2000,she recevied the Best Selling Female Recording Artist of 2000.In 2003,she is VH1's Sexist Artist Women of all time.And later in 2007,she in going to received Hollywood Walk Of Fame this year.IT'S ABOUT TIME.GOOD LUCK MARIAH YOU GO GIRL!she be working in ballads,and in R&B in Hip-Hop like THE LATE ODB, JAY-Z,NAS,DIDDY,JD,DABRAT,AND BOTH,AND DUET WITH JOE ARETHA,WHITNEY,AND BOYZ ll MEN AND FINALLY WORKING WITH SCOTT STORCH,AND SWIZZ BEATZ.THIS IS GONING TO BE FUN.I CAN'T WAIT.

Posted by Amie on Tuesday, 03.20.07 @ 01:14am


There is no doubt about it Mariah carey should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. This lady's got it all as a singer/songwriter, producer she is fabulous. Truely the best singer of our generation.

Posted by Heather on Friday, 03.23.07 @ 07:49am


At this point, I doubt Mariah will be considered for induction. Regardless of her vocal prowesss, her material has been samey through the years, in terms of what she sings about and her lyrical approach to it. Being a huge commercial success isn't enough for the HOF.

And RE "Fantasy" remix- it was hardly the first time a female pop artist had worked with a rapper. Hip-pop, which is a silly phrase to begin with, existed before that remix. Carey's albums and songs haven't been acclaimed or revered like others- she's just not considered one of the essential/important artists out there.

So, up until now, based on what she's done and everything, unlikely that she'll be considered for induction when eligible (unless she does something drastically different over the next several years- which is unlikely).

Posted by JT on Wednesday, 03.28.07 @ 11:19am


On her albums Madonna's songs and her voice are cloudy .

Her albums really has not a true difference they both

Grammies shouldn’t be to reward scandals . Don’t do a rewarding for disappoint and imposition get more credibility be accurate .

Madonna should grow up and she is an insane person by the popularity when she gets the initiative to say in everywhere " hey I'm the queen of the Bible ! " and to do a crucifixion absolutely the pretension to win the attention for none relation for art . Madonna bases her career in scandals , bad examples and exploits women’s immage in scarcity of original ideas , creativity and effort , her new album follows with this custom for her doesn’t matter all this when she wins 1 or 2 dollars more


Madonna believe that the art isn`t an important part in our culture .


When I hear a Madona's song I think the same country who acquits the furtive publications on the media is the same who does a mediocre singer a notable one and the same who buys the madona's discs .

She nor with the furtive support of musical media tv her albumes has reciprocity sales , it shows a more big rejection for the albumes by people lately more . Definetively everytime on her acts she shows her interest for the commerce and the exploit and not by a true inspiration . Without some award there were recent albums better than Madonna’s and in addition she does insane scandals , saying that she is having a plot in opposition , animating the public to get an undemocratic and erroneous attitude ,and offending people of some media who does a just job . I guess it turns in an insane obsession of some persons about Madonna . It happens when a person bases a career in stereotypes and never get an artistic overcoming .

Madonna isn’t the origin of the fashion she isn’t who deserves a recognition .

Madonna is a bad representation of the pop music and of the american people , there are other singers with more capacity , included great artists in who Madonna takes the inspiration , her albums are an inspiration from another people’s previous albumes . Those another people with the origin of ideas doesn’t deserves to be in contempt

Posted by johammes on Saturday, 03.31.07 @ 18:21pm




madonna has not done contribution to music she only has been everytime a mix of Marilyn Monroe and Cyndi Lauper , in 80s she has not relevance like other persons that in true were relevant persons , and you shouldn't be talking of other singers in a place of Janet .

Posted by Mela on Saturday, 03.31.07 @ 18:28pm


I doubt of the veracity of this votations this is so cloudy , disc's sales arent with reciprocity to what this site demostrates , the first commentary is very insinuating , your situation about videos aren't just , Cyndi Lauper has not nor a one , I don't like to do a vote

Posted by Netis on Saturday, 03.31.07 @ 18:55pm


What are you people smoking? I see all you morons saying that she had a big effect on the MUSIC industry. Well it's not the MUSIC hall of fame, it's the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame. She is NOT ROCK AND ROLL, and shouldn't be inducted. Period. Build a Go damned POP hall of fame if you like her so much.

Posted by Eric on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 00:02am


I'm a major Mariah fan, so I certainly believe that she'll make it in.

She's a living legend, and she's influenced nearly every female recording artist that has come after her. Whitney's a superior singer, but even Mariah did her one better by composing all of her own material.

Mariah Carey is hands down one of the most brilliant recording artists in music history. She owned the 1990s, and 15 years later, charted another classic with her comeback hit "We Belong Together."

Nobody can deny her that.

AND PEOPLE PLEASE REALIZE: THE HALL IS NOT DESIGNATED ONLY FOR ROCK ARTISTS. STOP BEING IGNORANT IDIOTS AND NOTICE THAT FOR ONCE. READ THE INDUCTEE LIST. CLEARLY, IF YOU RECORD ANY GENRE, YOU CAN BE INDUCTED. ROCK MUSIC IS PROBABLY THE WORST OF ALL THE GENRES ANYWAY. A LOT OF IT IS GOTH CRAP!

Posted by Michael H. on Friday, 06.8.07 @ 22:00pm


Since Madonna is a lock for the HOF, considering what she's done in her work and how her music is the template for pop music over the last 25 years, why is she being discussed in this section?

This is about Mariah Carey, and based on what she has done up until now, no, she likely won't be a contender for the HOF- and certainly not her first year of eligiblity. The impact as an artist has just been too weak.

Posted by JT on Thursday, 08.30.07 @ 23:14pm


If selling records and topping some Billboard Charts makes one a legend, then sure Mariah is a legend. But we have to ask ourself, what is her contribution to ROCK & ROLL? Is she significant? The answer is no. Her music is juvenile and repetitive. There is no denying her impact on the Billboard Charts, but in the grand scheme of music, she's a lightweight. If Mariah never recorded an album, would music be at a loss? Would it be any different? The answer is no. She isn't significant enough to deserve a place. The same is true of Celine Dion.

Posted by Jason on Friday, 09.21.07 @ 17:27pm


Oh my god, what is this crazy talk you say Jason? With out Mariah there would be no Kelly Clarkson, no Fergie, no Ciara! What a wasteland. As if!

Posted by shawn on Friday, 09.21.07 @ 17:33pm


Does Mariah even have any song that can be called a true CLASSIC? Her peers (Madonna, Whitney, Michael all have lots, even Celine does). Her songs are so forgettable.

Posted by Colson on Saturday, 09.22.07 @ 21:01pm


The only Mariah song I've heard in 17 years that leaves any impression on me in a favorable way in terms of meaning and music is Make It Happen.

Posted by SG on Saturday, 09.22.07 @ 21:20pm


hey mariah i cant wait to see u make it u have inspired me and all my friends because of u we now sing for our small city called joliet and we hope to be as great as u one day

we luv u girl and we know u can make it
we'll be cheering for u

Posted by cielo on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 10:12am


No way, she dont deserve it. Shes a chav and personally i dont think she even has a great voice, its more like an annoying warbling.

Shes r n b anyway, and this is rock. when she has sang some real music maybe we will consider her...

Posted by dean on Friday, 09.28.07 @ 04:36am


Mariah Carey is the epitome of "mainstream hack". Her entire career has been an unadventurous, lazy stroll down the middle of the road. Her bland, soulless, watered-down version of R&B makes Lionel Richie sound like James Brown in comparison. In her nearly two-decade career, her music has never said anything interesting, important, or remotely memorable. Her lyrics read like rejected verses from Hallmark greeting cards. Hell, even Barry Manilow was more musically adventurous, at least he had the chutzpah to try something as off-the-wall as "Copacabana".

I will give this to her: she has been influential. Thanks to her penchant for wretched over-singing and constant over-use of melisma, we now have an entire generation of female R&B divas who think singing 10 notes when a melody calls for one constitutes soulful vocalizing, and who couldn't find the emotional center of a song with a map, a compass, and a 20-nation army.

Basically, Mariah Carey murdered R&B music in the 90's (with a little help from MTV, hip hop, and Boyz II Men). For that she should be locked up in a Rock and Roll Hall of Shame, not honored in a Hall of Fame.

Posted by ezwriter on Friday, 10.5.07 @ 01:18am


Mariah Carey has already influence generations. With her voice and RnB. She produces Writes and Sings all her work and in many eyes a musical geniuss. She has sold over 100 Million albums.

Huge platinum artists such as Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Beyonce, Ashanti, Kelly Clarkson, And countless others have said she was she was their idol and music influence when growing up.

And in a time where the music industry is in a fast decline and its hard to sell a million albums. She broke threw with what many think is her finest work ever THE EMANCIPATION OF MIMI which has sold over 10 million copies. And singles dominated the charts for most of the the year.
And if the reviews are rite Careys 11th studio album will do just as good if not better.
She is set to have more number one singles than any other artist. Passing The Beatles and Elivis, Before 2010.

She has not only influenced the top artists today. Shes outselling all of them. And with her finest work to stil come its no doubt she will influence artists for many generations ahead.

Posted by Lex on Tuesday, 01.22.08 @ 08:15am


Once again- nope, Mimi unlikely to even be comsidered. As Barbra Streisand can attst, big commercial success and a great/bog voice aren't enopugh. The material has been- and continues to be- too ordinary, too insignificant, too lightweight. But, enjoyable at times, sure- though not enough for HOF contention.

Posted by JR on Monday, 03.10.08 @ 21:39pm


she hasn't been out long enough to be inducted yet.

Posted by amber on Tuesday, 03.11.08 @ 01:00am


to the person that doubted that mariah had classics:

1)Vision of love
2) Hero (which so many artist have tried to copy rihanna, leona lewis, kelly clarkson just to name a few)
3) one sweet day (which only stayed #1 on the charts for 16 straight weeks)
4) any other one of her 18 #1 hit singles that you would like to choose from...and even classics like "forever" that didnt go number one but were instant "wedding classics"

Posted by mary on Saturday, 04.5.08 @ 22:13pm


ofcourse!Mariah deserves to be inducted..in terms of sales, awards. talent.

no one is above her ..

Posted by emil on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 22:02pm


I wouldn't mind being above her.

Posted by Brian on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 23:20pm


No Way, Mariah has a lot of covers, a lot of sampleos, just has a good voice, but she is copying herself (E=MC² is the second part of The emancipation of mimi), she loses her mind esasyly, fist of all, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has to recognize phill collins, journey, def leppard,Tom Tom Club,Robert Palmer, Brenda Star, etc....and all the artist she had been copying, couse this Artist had been a great influence to her, in this case Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame has to consider Tommy Mottola, couse Mariah Carey is a product of him

Posted by Gen on Friday, 07.11.08 @ 00:26am


Oh YES! Mariah definitely deserves to be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. If other (non-talented) artists such as Madonna can be inducted-why can't Mariah? I've really looked into this website, and noticed that some of the inductees aren't even rock. Aretha Franklin? SOUL! Smokey Robinson? MOTOWN! The Supremes? POP! Ruth Brown? R&B!!! Mariah has influenced just about 80% of the young artists today.

Posted by Chris on Thursday, 08.14.08 @ 12:43pm


she deserves it...

Posted by kulith on Friday, 11.14.08 @ 01:30am


Make her drop some acid.

Posted by denyo on Thursday, 11.20.08 @ 13:35pm


HELL YES!

Mariah is MUCH better than SHITney, HORSEFACELINE Dion, and BOREbra Streisand.

The RRHOF doesnt give a rats ass about rock artists...all they care about is being infuencial. Mariahs one of the most influencial artists in music history!

All you haters, may think otherwise, but write a letter to Christina, Mary, Beyonce, Brandy, Leona, Britney, Kelly, cause all of them have credited Mariah as their inspiration/influence.

...and "Hillary" lay off the dope, cause Celine Dion influenced NOBODY.

I would lose all respect for this museum if they only induct redneck screaming punks.

Posted by Skye009 on Monday, 12.1.08 @ 17:05pm


"All you haters ... write a letter to Christina, Mary, Beyonce, Brandy, Leona, Britney, Kelly,..."

Okay Skye, we will write a letter. Please provide addresses, also last names for Leona? and Kelly?) ... Nah, nevermind, lets not bother.

Posted by boobhead on Monday, 12.1.08 @ 19:07pm


she should be in their.
shes one of the greatest female singers of all time she she writes all of her own songs too. people forget that.

Shes influenced so many, like Christina and Beyonce and Leona Lewis.

Posted by will on Friday, 01.23.09 @ 15:04pm


I cannot forgive her for destroying "Bringin' on the Heartbreak"

Now that is right there as one of the worst covers of all time.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 01.23.09 @ 15:27pm


Dameon...UGH!!!! I don't think I EVEN want to hear that!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 01.23.09 @ 16:55pm


com'on....how do u saying Mariah influnced to to Christina, Mary, Beyonce, Brandy, Leona, Britney, Kelly??...they always say influenced by Mariah, Aretha, Stevie Wonder even Madonna....so??...Mariah has voice's patent??...Mariah just influence to little girls in American Idol just 4 voice...couse Mariah doesn't sell well out of USA...Mariah is nothing in Europe (thats why she doesn't have greatest tours like Madonna there), Mariah isn't knowing in SouthAmerica...she is Luis Miguel' ex-girlfriend there...she always cancel shows even USA where all her fans sayin she is the bigger seller of all the time, with a lot of "World?? Music Award"...where is her "world"?? couse Europe or Southamerica aren't...
some people here say "Aretha Franklin? SOUL! Smokey Robinson? MOTOWN! The Supremes? POP! Ruth Brown? R&B!!! "...mmmm..Mariah sings a lot of R&B, soul with Pop, that's why MTV and Billboard also give her thats categories (pop and dance) ...
Aretha is big (USA and UK Hall of Fame)like Madonna...

Posted by Gen on Tuesday, 02.10.09 @ 08:50am


NO WAY IN HELL! she's a pop tart who is irrelevant to the music industry and has created nothing new. At least Madonna was an innovator and Celine changed the face of Las Vegas and future concert venues but what has this carey person done besides making a fool of herself trying to dress trampy to attract younger audiences. Your 40 grow up.

Posted by Ray on Thursday, 03.26.09 @ 19:36pm


I dont get what the big deal about this Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is about anyways. Should a singer do everything they can to try to get in?
Hell, Madonna was inducted last year, and they even put Run MDC in too, so how credible do you think this whole process is?
There are dozens upon dozens of great singers that probaly wont get into this hall of fame, but does that make then any worse?
BUT, on the topic of Miss Carey, personally, I hope that she gets in. (If this museum isnt closed down or bankcrupt by then) Not because shes not rock n roll, but because she is influencial. Regardless of what "haters" think, shes THE most influencial singer of her time.

Madonna, cant sing cant dance. Spreads her legs every chance she gets. She got famous for putting on cone bras and having orgies on stage. She woke up on day and decided to play the guitar during her concerts...and then protest to be called a rock star.

Celine, STILL putting out BORING repetitive albums that have done NOTHING to transform the music industry. It doesnt matter if shes an ex vegas show girl.

Posted by Eva on Monday, 04.13.09 @ 15:57pm


Mimi Carey's body of work is too lightweight for her to be considered strongly for the HOF- that, and the fact that she pretty much sticks to formula, and is stuck in the eigth grade (eternally, as she has said more than once). She's never been interested in progressing as an artist, and that keeps the fans happy.

And, sure, Madonna is revered as one of the most important acts of all time for the reasons you listed- uh huh. :) She, her music, her stage shows, etc. have been very acclaimed, so why try (unsuccessfully) to denounce that?

Posted by JR on Monday, 04.27.09 @ 22:05pm


0MG!!! it took mariah a decade to achieve everything madonna did. On a UK tv show they mentioned mariah was bigger than michael jackson and madonna,thats so true.not only is she bigger than elvis now,where's celine,whitney,aretha,patti labelle? And shes way on her way beating the Beatles! Hell yeah this woman should be inducted! Shes a living legend!!! She was named one of Time magazines most influential people in the world. Now you people wanna tell me she did nothing to change music? Hail queen of r&b mc.

Posted by Garth on Thursday, 04.30.09 @ 14:50pm


Although I personally despise her music and find nothing original about her, I have to admit that Mariah Carey will probably go in to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Her longevity, combined with her commercial and critical success (her last two records were among the best recieved albums of their respective years, if I'm not mistaken), renders her worthy of induction. Congratulations, Miss Carey; you've won over arguably your biggest critic...but I'm still going to pan you regardless.

Posted by AreUExperienced on Monday, 07.13.09 @ 19:21pm


You would be a little mistaken. :) Check out www.acclaimedmusic.net to see what the most acclaimed albums were of a given year. Emancipation was her among her best-received work, but didn't far all that hot in year-end summations and such.

LOL @ the Time mention- Miley Cyrus also was one of the most influential in that feature. She's hugely popular, it is true, but not much of an artist- she's only 16, after all, and like Mimi, caters to the young crowd.

Mimi Carey is not reagrded as an important act, and proof again that commercial success alone does not make one a HOF nominee/inductee. And I am a fan of hers- not a mega-lamb, but a fan nonetheless. She's good at what she does, which is inconsequential and juvenile pop. She is not all that effective when it comes to live performances, and her videos overall have been nothing special.

My favorite albums would be the debut, Butterfly and Emancipation. But, all in all, if you've heard one Mimi album, you've heard them all. But that doesn't mean I don't and can't enjoy her for what she does.

Posted by JR on Thursday, 08.20.09 @ 21:08pm


I think any person who is objective knows she belongs there... shes up there with all the big ones!

Posted by Lishes on Wednesday, 02.17.10 @ 12:14pm


Let Mariah continue to sell lots of records, have many more #1 hits. Fine by me!! But as long as she's NEVER in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame I'll be happy.

Posted by Barry on Wednesday, 03.24.10 @ 09:13am


A true hidden jem She should be in.

Posted by L-7 on Wednesday, 03.24.10 @ 11:40am


The woman writes her own songs, produces her materials, makes her covers special and has beneffited from and heavily influenced the R&B/Pop music of today. Without You is one reason alone why she should be inducted. All of this, not to mention that buttery tone that she has that has withstood the test of time and ups and downs in vocal range ability through the years. American Idol, many singers (female AND male) owe a great deal to her. She is deffinetly underated, her pop hits (many - which is why they can be forgotten) have inspired many and healed many. If anyone this generation deserves to get into this Hall of Fame, it's Mariah Carey!

Posted by alex on Thursday, 03.25.10 @ 23:25pm


of course mariah should be inducted her melismatic technique influenced every r&b artist since 1990 it also influenced the entire american idol generation she has also infleunced the most successful artist of the past decade (beyonce, britney spears, christina aguilera, leona lewis, rihanna, mary j blige, jordin sparks, kelly clarkson, and many more)

Posted by Bryant on Monday, 03.29.10 @ 10:50am


All you people are idiots complaining that Mariah isn't in yet. SHE'S NOT EVEN ELIGIBLE FOR ANOTHER 5 YEARS!!!!!

GAHHHH

Posted by Milestones on Tuesday, 04.20.10 @ 15:59pm


Ms Carey should definitely be entered into the HoF when she is eligible. Her influence is undeniable (whether you like her music or not) and in reality, when I think of her, my first thought is 'musician'. She composes, produces and sings to such a high standard. It will only be (sadly) when she passes that her true musical ability and shine will be reconsidered and noted for what it is - magical.

She is the last of the divas in the true musical definition.

Posted by Lawrence Fox on Thursday, 06.24.10 @ 10:44am


she the one who made the world of rnb better than madonna and of cours for the world she is the lord diva.

Posted by khem martin on Wednesday, 07.14.10 @ 04:25am


Mariah should definetly be inducted. Well she's the Queen of R&B and Pop she is the most seeling female artist of all time. I think she should be inducted.

Posted by Zzzzzz on Saturday, 07.17.10 @ 05:06am


Shouldn't Whitney Houston get the credit for the divas? Mariah is pretty hot though.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 07.21.10 @ 17:40pm


She along with Whitney Houston should be inducted. They're the greatest and most influential female singers of their generation.

Also Mariah's body of work speaks for itself, she's one of the ultimate crossover artists. She's done jazz, soul, R&B, pop, rock, hip-hop etc etc. Also her ear is shown to be excellent by the way she constructs her melodies and builds harmonic layers.

I didn't even mention her amazing vocal prowess.

Posted by KyoHanjin on Thursday, 08.12.10 @ 11:08am


it should also be noted that Mariah Carey covered a rock song 'bringing on the heartbreak' by def lepard and got complimented for the great job she did by the artists.
she is a very versatile singer, even when at her worst she sounds better than alot if not most singers at their best. also her overall work is really good, people wrote her off after butterfly, but her next albums, rainbow, glitter, charmbracelet, emancipation of mimi, e=mc2, memoirs of the imperfect angel are also good and contain some great songs.
She should definitely be inducted. Her voice is still amazing, maybe she lost few semitones but she's still great. And she's excellent since she writes her own material, and she's got the musicianship, she creates really good melodies and harmonizations.
And like Kyo mentioned, Whitney should be inducted too. Both ladies are the most influential artists and all aspiring singers that actually want to be great singers look up to both of them.

Posted by Neko on Thursday, 08.12.10 @ 11:31am


"Whitney should be inducted too. Both ladies are the most influential artists"

Not even close, though they are great singers.

"and all aspiring singers that actually want to be great singers look up to both of them."

All aspiring singers? I'm not sure about that. I agree with you that Whitney should be inducted, but I'm not so sure about Mariah.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 08.12.10 @ 17:00pm


How can Mariah Carey have a 38% chance of induction and Boyz II Men only have a 5% chance of induction? Mariah Carey was the number 1 charting female artist of the 90s and Boyz II Men were the number 1 charting R&B group of the 90's.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 21:41pm


She sho can Sing

Posted by mrxyxomg on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 21:42pm


I'd support Carey being inducted into any other music hall. Rock and Roll, I'm not so sure. BUT, she has had a connection to the RRHOF. She was chosen to induct Gladys Knight in the mid-90's. She also covered some rock songs (Without You, Open Arms, etc.) and made her versions a staple on shows like American Idol. There are also some independant rock bands that have covered some of her music.
Based on influence alone ("rock & roll" aside), she should be in within a second. I read an article about Carey earlier this year, and the reporter compared her impact on pop music to Led Zeppelin and rock, Metallica and metal and Johnny Cash and country. I 100% agree with this.
She is perhaps the most influential singer of the late 20th century. "Vision of Love" has been credited as the "magna carta of melisma", which inspired contemporary r&b artists like Beyonce and Rihanna. She is also famous for incorporating pop, r&b and hip hop elements into her music, something that was VERY rare in the industry, and practically non-existent in mainstream music. The whole pop/rap collaboration was also popularized with Carey's Fantasy featuring ODB. And can anyone name another singer who successfully crossed over as many times as Carey herself?
...and the list goes on and on.

Everyone who says that she is not influential, please just stop. You're wrong on all levels conceivable.

Gen, your comment is so false in its entirety, that Im laughing off my chair. Mariah Carey IS celebrated worldwide regardless of what you say or "think". In fact, she is one of the most successful artists in Asia, and the highest selling music act in Japan (the biggest music market in Asia).

Posted by jerry on Thursday, 09.30.10 @ 19:22pm


Why do they keep adding random R&B, Rap and Hip-Hop artists on the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME? No, if they want to be in, they should go make one for R&B, Rap, and Hip-Hop then, keep your shit out of the Hall. This is for influential Rock Bands who have earned it, and I doubt very much that most of these Hip-Hop artists deserve it.

Posted by Brittany on Thursday, 10.28.10 @ 08:19am


To Brittany: Aretha is also RnB, therefore you're argument is invalid,Michael was never Rock! although Beat It, still he is the King of POP.


Part 1 - Significance to Rock and Roll

First and foremost I'm a Mariah Carey fan.
(You can say that I'm bias, and whatsoever still I had to give opinion on my Inspiration, Mariah Carey)

Rock and Roll has been defined as "Popular" in the scene of 1960's up to now. Today there is also an emerging style of music called Alternative Rock, which had Rock and Roll leaning. Although Mariah may not be in Rock and Roll genre, still she is in the genre of "Pop". Now "Pop" is a type of music, wherein what is POPULAR today, in the times of Beethoven CLassical Music was considered "Pop". Know our Pop Music has different genres, example is pop which is a type of Popular Music genre that can be ascribed as "what's in?", and usually has dancish vibe and all those stuffs. Rock and Roll is another type of Pop Music genre or Popular Music(don't need to elaborate). Now Rythm and Blues is a type of Popular Music genre(also don't need to elaborate). There are two types of RnB no.1 is The TRADITIONAL RnB and no. 2 is CONTEMPORARY RnB.

Contemporary RnB, is a type of RnB, this is what most RnB songs are most now, Especially on Mariah Carey's song.

Before Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Dionne Warwick, Diana Ross where traditional RnB singers.
Now Whitney was also one of them, but she has a mixed of pop soul/gospel. But its not Whitney who popularized Contemporary, there were many of them. The birth of Contemporary RnB was emerging little by little, until late 90's when it garnered worldwide recognition. And to that part it was when she brought an influence to the making of Contemporary RnB that we see and hear today............ Part 2 be continued


Posted by Winston Lazarte on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 03:48am


No, I just don't want Mariah in for a reason, and I never said Micheal was rock. I don't think she has enough talent to be in the Hall that's why I say no.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 09:56am


I don't think 38% is going to get her in, sorry. I would think that you would need at least above 50%, the Hall doesn't need her.

Posted by Brittany on Monday, 11.1.10 @ 09:58am


@ Brittany, if you think that she doesn't have enough talent, then you know nothing about music.
Please read some of the above comments about her contributions to the industry.

Posted by kelly on Wednesday, 11.24.10 @ 11:58am


Mariah's incredibly talented. She's just cheapened her image lately by putting out lesser-quality songs in the past few years. "We Belong Together" was tolerable, but the more recent material hasn't been as high of caliber as her early work.

Posted by Philip on Wednesday, 11.24.10 @ 13:14pm


She has been an incredible talented vocalist, but that's not enough for HOF induction (and we know the large commercial success isn't pertinent).

Acts considered light have been inducted in the HOF, but Carey isn't enough of a critical hit or artistic force to get serious consideration upon her eligibility.

Posted by JR on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 15:56pm


If anything, only the fact that she's been light will harm her. Talent may not be enough, but they pretty much say that only "unquestionable musical excellence" is needed, which implies the necessity of talent. They do look at innovation and influence, but even those things aren't enough anymore. I&I simply isn't even their primary grading scale anymore.

Posted by Philip on Friday, 11.26.10 @ 16:42pm


Part 2 - Influence on a Worldwide Basis.

First thing first, melisma anyone?

Know I know she might not be first to do it, as for melisma can be heard in early times as chants, she's one of the staple artist who popularized it. Michael Jackson was not the first one to emulate a moonwalk, before him lots of street kids performed it, but he's the primary artist to have popularized it.

Second, whistle register anyone?

The high note thing. Know I know Minnie Ripperton had since used it, but it was Mariah Carey who pioneered "Dog Notes" and brought it to a worldwide acclaim. Even TV hosts, singers, and even you! hear a "high note" the name "MARIAH" appears in your head. A lot comedians, singers, and tv personalities jokes about making a high note that parodies mariah's singing. Isn't that an influence, as of many talent shows for example American Idol and Xfactor, mentions Mariah's singing techniques and abilities and how it influenced their singing style.

Even for a small country like Philippines, a lot of aspirant singers in small talent shows emulates Mariah's singing style. Many had try to sing like her and to emulate her singing style. But a few had only succeeded in the high note part.

Even her hand gestures when singing many not be an important aspect here but surely a lot of singers and wannabees used it or jokes on it.


And of course she paved the way for the future generation of Pop singers, who call themselves "pop" but is unmistakably RnB. Her 1995 hit Fantasy, especially the remix maybe first but importantly popularized the Pop/RnB collaboration singing style infused with Hip-Hop music with a combination of Rap,and the rapper was Ol Dirty Bastard, the baddest of of the rappers at that time. And Know in the 1990's a lot of singers were afraid to mix anything in any genres because its too risky, maybe many had try Pop/RnB as what Mariah had done in her first single "Vision of Love" but no one was that crazy enough to mix FOUR! genre's in a song. To add it up many have feared in the 90's, that a "POP" star to have a collaboration with a rapper/hip hop artist because music exucutives and media thinks it suicide. And Mariah Carey is crazy. Due to her craziness, Beyonce, Christina, Britney, N'Sync, Back Street Boys, Justin Bieber, Britney and Rap stars who have given an oppurtunity might have to say "thank you" and owe a little appreciation for the legacy that the legend Mariah Carey has built.

Posted by Winston Lazarte on Saturday, 01.1.11 @ 09:27am


Influencing Britney Spears, Nsync, Backstreet Boys. Beyonce, and Justin Beiber is the exact reason she shouldn't be in.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 01.1.11 @ 13:52pm


"Influencing Britney Spears, Nsync, Backstreet Boys. Beyonce, and Justin Beiber is the exact reason she shouldn't be in."--GFW

AMEN.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.1.11 @ 14:19pm


Hahaha.. funny comment.

But seriously we need to be real, this is "pop" the POP days for Rock n Roll is over, yet still runs in our bloods and minds and their legacy will never be tainted.

But c'mon although Music nowadays is trashy, still its the music today and as teenagers now grows up the music is now what their gonna brag about their grandchild same as our grand/parents brags about in those glorious times.

Posted by Paul on Sunday, 01.2.11 @ 04:26am


Yeah I can actually imagine that
"Turn that shit off and put on some of that good stuff, that lady gaga"

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 01.2.11 @ 07:18am


I'm now for her being inducted. Influence is influence, and I can tell she's had quite a bit of that.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 01.2.11 @ 10:30am


To GFW-

Hahaha.., the funny part is, my grandma doesn't like Michael Jackson because he's too overrated and same as many top rock bands because they were a bit too loud and she prefers Neil Sedaka, Frank Sinatra, Matt Monro and so on because their music was soft, yet she dislikes rock but rock is the reason why this hall is made in favor of rock artist but still allowing past artist even if the genre is not rock same as the future.

The point is this hall was made in 1983? and opened on 1995?, at their times rock was predominant but still let late artists because without them rock maybe would not exist, now the problem is in the future?

Posted by Paul on Monday, 01.3.11 @ 06:12am


Actually the hall was started in 1986 and opened the susbsuquent year.

Posted by GFW on Monday, 01.3.11 @ 15:41pm


In reality, most of the big-name/successful acts get in (see Neil Diamond's 22-year wait)- it's just a matter of when. However, I maintain that the HOF committee won't bee rushing to consider Mimi when she becomes eligible. I mean, it did not have Whitney Houston on the nominees list the last two years, and I believe she would be considered more strongly than Mimi.

I enjoy Mimi, but she's never been a critical favorite, probably because the material on the whole is too light. And, she's not exactly highly regarded in other areas (i.e. staging concerts, videomaking, etc.) I don't think her voice is viewed as being as important and monumental as someone like Aretha Franklin (but Aretha also had stronger material in her heyday).

Posted by JR on Monday, 01.3.11 @ 16:57pm


Chart-topper, record-breaker, history-maker. This artist has an unparalleled vocal range. Trend-setter (Fantasy remix paved the way for all the pop/hip hop collaborations we hear today; it was the first time the world had heard such a collabo , and many, many followed). Classic tale of a poor, innocent girl finding fame and fortune, marrying and then divorcing her millionaire boss, thereafter partying, dating, changing her hair and look by dressing sexy and provocatively, changing her style of music and ultimately becoming a diva. She is controversial, beautiful, odd, talented, famous, infamous - the perfect ingredients to create a hall-of-famer.

Posted by Emily Smith on Sunday, 02.13.11 @ 10:51am


Biggest pop artist of the 1990's. Still one of the biggest pop singers of the 2000's. Has the most #1 singles of everyone after the Beatles right now. She may surpass the Beatles by 2015 or 2016 since she'll probably release at least one more new album by then. That's not even adding that she wrote almost all of her songs, and produced almost all of them too. She wasn't the first pop singer to experiment with hip hop but she did it often and did so successfully with a number of her hits, some of them becoming nearly as popular as the original songs themselves.

Who can forget that she added a standard Christmas Carol too with "All I Want for Christmas is You"?

Mariah will be one of the easiest shoo ins for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and she rightfully deserves it.

Posted by ACL on Tuesday, 02.15.11 @ 14:04pm


18 number 1s
250 million records
worth 750 million
callborated pop and hip pop together
influenced the entire american idol show
influenced singers such as, beyonce, christina aguilera, brittany spears, even older singers like patti labelle, shaka khan, aretha franklin and plus those are MC's influencers!

surpasses the beatles with most acumaltive weeks atop the billboard 200 chart at 79 weeks!

off course she would be in that hll of fame!

Posted by tane on Tuesday, 05.10.11 @ 21:19pm


HAHAHA. Poor haters they don't realize how influential Mariah Carey is, look at her wikipedia page in the LEGACY section and you can tell that she is really that IMPORTANT.

And by the way those claims are from reliable sources Slant Magazine, Rolling Stones, The New Yorker, etc. etc. Those sites are legit!

Posted by roc on Saturday, 05.21.11 @ 14:08pm


I wouldn't want her in, but if it comes down to her or say, Britney then I'll go for Mariah.

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 05.21.11 @ 14:55pm


Anyone who has doubts or against Mariah please read.


Mariah Carey (Legacy)

Carey's vocal style and singing ability have significantly impacted popular and contemporary music. Music critic G. Brown from The Denver Post wrote, "For better or worse, Mariah Carey's five-octave range and melismatic style have influenced a generation of pop singers." According to Rolling Stone, "Her mastery of melisma, the fluttering strings of notes that decorate songs like "Vision of Love," inspired the entire American Idol vocal school, for better or worse, and virtually every other female R&B singer since the Nineties."[215] Beyoncé Knowles credits Carey's singing and her song "Vision of Love" as influencing her to begin practicing vocal "runs" as a child, as well as helping her pursue a career as a musician.[216] Jody Rosen of Slate Magazine wrote of Carey's influence in music saying "Carey is the most influential vocal stylist of the last two decades, the person who made rococo melismatic singing—the trick of embroidering syllables with multiple no-o-o-o-o-o-tes—the ubiquitous pop style." Rosen further commented on Carey's proof of influence saying "Exhibit A is American Idol, which has often played out as a clash of melisma-mad Mariah wannabes. And, today, nearly 20 years after Carey's debut, major labels continue to bet the farm on young stars such as the winner of Britain's X Factor show, Leona Lewis, with her Generation Next gloss on Mariah's big voice and big hair." Carey is also credited for introducing R&B and hip hop into mainstream pop culture, and for popularizing rap as a featuring act through her post-1995 songs. Sasha Frere-Jones, editor of The New Yorker commented, "It became standard for R&B/hip-hop stars like Missy Elliott and Beyoncé, to combine melodies with rapped verses. And young white pop stars—including Britney Spears, 'N Sync, and Christina Aguilera—have spent much of the past ten years making pop music that is unmistakably R&B." Moreover Jones concludes that "Her idea of pairing a female songbird with the leading male m.c.s of hip-hop changed R. & B. and, eventually, all of pop. Although now anyone is free to use this idea, the success of “Mimi” suggests that it still belongs to Carey."" Judnick Mayard, writer of TheFader, wrote that in regarding of R&B and hip hop collaboration, "The champion of this movement is Mariah Carey." Mayard also expressed that "To this day ODB and Mariah may still be the best and most random hip hop collaboration of all time", citing that due to the record "Fantasy", "R&B and Hip Hop were the best of step siblings."[218] New York Magazine's editor Roger Deckker said that in regarding Carey as an influential artist in music, he commented that "Whitney Houston may have introduced melisma (the vocally acrobatic style of lending a word an extra syllable or twenty) to the charts, but it was Mariah—with her jaw-dropping range—who made it into America’s default sound." Deckker also added that "Every time you turn on American Idol, you are watching her children". According to Pier Dominguez, author of Christina Aguilera: a star is made : the unauthorized biography, Aguilera has stated how she loved listening to Whitney Houston, but it was Carey who had the biggest influence on her vocal styling. Carey's carefully choreographed image of a grown woman's image struck a chord on Aguilera. Her influence on Aguilera also grew from the fact that both were of mixed heritage. Philip Brasor, editor of "The Japan Times", expressed how Carey's vocal and melismatic style even influenced Asian singers. He wrote regarding Japanese superstar Utada Hikaru, "Utada sang what she heard, from the diaphragm and with her own take on the kind of melisma that became de rigueur in American pop after the ascendance of Mariah Carey." In an article called "Out With Mariah's Melisma, In With Kesha's Kick", writer David Browne of The New York Times discusses how the ubiquitous melisma pop style has suddenly fall down from pop culture in favor of young stars who uses the now ubiquitous autotune in which the first mentioned was heavily popularized into mainstream pop culture with the likes of Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. Browne had commented "But beginning two decades ago, melisma overtook pop in a way it hadn’t before. Mariah Carey’s debut hit from 1990, “Vision of Love,” followed two years later by Whitney Houston’s version of “I Will Always Love You,” set the bar insanely high for notes stretched louder, longer and knottier than most pop fans had ever heard." Browne further added "A subsequent generation of singers, including Ms. Aguilera, Jennifer Hudson and Beyoncé, built their careers around melisma. (Men like Brian McKnight and Tyrese also indulged in it, but women tended to dominate the form.)" Following the release of her Greatest Hits album, Devon Powers of Popmatters has said in his review that "She has influenced countless female vocalists after her. At 32, she is already a living legend—even if she never sings another note."



Fantasy - Mariah Carey (Legacy)

Mariah's "Fantasy" remains one of the finest examples of reworking an extensive sample into a fully realized pop masterpiece.The song and its remix arguably remains as Carey's most important single to date. Due to the success and influence of the song, Carey is credited for introducing R&B and hip hop into mainstream pop culture, and for popularizing rap as a featuring act through her post-1995 songs. Sasha Frere-Jones, editor of The New Yorker commented in referencing to the song's remix, "It became standard for R&B/hip-hop stars like Missy Elliott and Beyoncé, to combine melodies with rapped verses. And young white pop stars—including Britney Spears, 'N Sync, and Christina Aguilera—have spent much of the past ten years making pop music that is unmistakably R&B." Moreover Jones concludes that "Her idea of pairing a female songbird with the leading male MCs of hip-hop changed R&B and, eventually, all of pop. Although now anyone is free to use this idea, the success of “Mimi” suggests that it still belongs to Carey."
John Norris of MTV News has stated that the remix was "responsible for, I would argue, an entire wave of music that we've seen since and that is the R&B-hip-hop collaboration. You could argue that the 'Fantasy' remix was the single most important recording that she's ever made." Norris echoed the sentiments of TLC's Lisa Lopes, who told MTV that it's because of Mariah that we have "R&B." Judnick Mayard, writer of TheFader, wrote that in regarding of R&B and hip hop collaboration, "The champion of this movement is Mariah Carey." Mayard also expressed that "To this day ODB and Mariah may still be the best and most random hip hop collaboration of all time", citing that due to the record "Fantasy", "R&B and Hip Hop were the best of step siblings."



Vision of Love - Mariah Carey (Legacy)

VH1 named "Vision of Love" the fourteenth greatest song of the 1990s. About.com ranked it fourth on its top ten pop hits of 1990 list and twenty-eighth on its top 100 pop songs of the 1990s list. Entertainment Weekly included it on their "10 Great (and 10 Grating) Karaoke Songs" list as a grating karaoke song, saying: "You cannot do this song. Seriously. Tackling this lung-crusher might seem like a fun challenge, but three minutes, five octaves, and one 10-second note later, you will realize that you did not conquer 'Vision of Love.' 'Vision of Love' conquered you." USA Today critic Elysa Gardner picked "Vision of Love" as one of the most intriguing tracks, saying that it is still Mariah's best song. T. Field and a research team discovered that "Vision of Love" is one of the songs that has physiological and biochemical effects on depressed female adolescents. R&B singer Beyoncé Knowles said that she began doing vocal "runs" after listening to "Vision of Love" for the first time.
Devon Powers from Popmatters has stated during the release of Carey's Greatest Hits album that "Mariah’s Greatest Hits moves chronologically through that remarkable career, beginning with “Vision of Love”, the 1990 single that introduced the singer to instant stardom. Still, after so many years and songs, it’s by far among her best, if not the best—a simple testament to the incredible pipes that gave her a permanent place in pop cultural memory." Powers added that "From its first moments, the song demands to be legendary—a gong crash smolders low as Mariah’s gospel-inspired vocals hum confidently, grandly."

Posted by MC Legend! on Sunday, 06.19.11 @ 14:14pm


(I just have to repost it cause this legacy section of hers is a good smack in the face to the haters[not necessarily haters, but those who doubt her in terms of influence and her contribution to music])



Anyone who has doubts or against Mariah please read.


Mariah Carey (Legacy)

Carey's vocal style and singing ability have significantly impacted popular and contemporary music. Music critic G. Brown from The Denver Post wrote, "For better or worse, Mariah Carey's five-octave range and melismatic style have influenced a generation of pop singers." According to Rolling Stone, "Her mastery of melisma, the fluttering strings of notes that decorate songs like "Vision of Love," inspired the entire American Idol vocal school, for better or worse, and virtually every other female R&B singer since the Nineties."[215] Beyoncé Knowles credits Carey's singing and her song "Vision of Love" as influencing her to begin practicing vocal "runs" as a child, as well as helping her pursue a career as a musician.[216] Jody Rosen of Slate Magazine wrote of Carey's influence in music saying "Carey is the most influential vocal stylist of the last two decades, the person who made rococo melismatic singing—the trick of embroidering syllables with multiple no-o-o-o-o-o-tes—the ubiquitous pop style." Rosen further commented on Carey's proof of influence saying "Exhibit A is American Idol, which has often played out as a clash of melisma-mad Mariah wannabes. And, today, nearly 20 years after Carey's debut, major labels continue to bet the farm on young stars such as the winner of Britain's X Factor show, Leona Lewis, with her Generation Next gloss on Mariah's big voice and big hair." Carey is also credited for introducing R&B and hip hop into mainstream pop culture, and for popularizing rap as a featuring act through her post-1995 songs. Sasha Frere-Jones, editor of The New Yorker commented, "It became standard for R&B/hip-hop stars like Missy Elliott and Beyoncé, to combine melodies with rapped verses. And young white pop stars—including Britney Spears, 'N Sync, and Christina Aguilera—have spent much of the past ten years making pop music that is unmistakably R&B." Moreover Jones concludes that "Her idea of pairing a female songbird with the leading male m.c.s of hip-hop changed R. & B. and, eventually, all of pop. Although now anyone is free to use this idea, the success of “Mimi” suggests that it still belongs to Carey."" Judnick Mayard, writer of TheFader, wrote that in regarding of R&B and hip hop collaboration, "The champion of this movement is Mariah Carey." Mayard also expressed that "To this day ODB and Mariah may still be the best and most random hip hop collaboration of all time", citing that due to the record "Fantasy", "R&B and Hip Hop were the best of step siblings."[218] New York Magazine's editor Roger Deckker said that in regarding Carey as an influential artist in music, he commented that "Whitney Houston may have introduced melisma (the vocally acrobatic style of lending a word an extra syllable or twenty) to the charts, but it was Mariah—with her jaw-dropping range—who made it into America’s default sound." Deckker also added that "Every time you turn on American Idol, you are watching her children". According to Pier Dominguez, author of Christina Aguilera: a star is made : the unauthorized biography, Aguilera has stated how she loved listening to Whitney Houston, but it was Carey who had the biggest influence on her vocal styling. Carey's carefully choreographed image of a grown woman's image struck a chord on Aguilera. Her influence on Aguilera also grew from the fact that both were of mixed heritage. Philip Brasor, editor of "The Japan Times", expressed how Carey's vocal and melismatic style even influenced Asian singers. He wrote regarding Japanese superstar Utada Hikaru, "Utada sang what she heard, from the diaphragm and with her own take on the kind of melisma that became de rigueur in American pop after the ascendance of Mariah Carey." In an article called "Out With Mariah's Melisma, In With Kesha's Kick", writer David Browne of The New York Times discusses how the ubiquitous melisma pop style has suddenly fall down from pop culture in favor of young stars who uses the now ubiquitous autotune in which the first mentioned was heavily popularized into mainstream pop culture with the likes of Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. Browne had commented "But beginning two decades ago, melisma overtook pop in a way it hadn’t before. Mariah Carey’s debut hit from 1990, “Vision of Love,” followed two years later by Whitney Houston’s version of “I Will Always Love You,” set the bar insanely high for notes stretched louder, longer and knottier than most pop fans had ever heard." Browne further added "A subsequent generation of singers, including Ms. Aguilera, Jennifer Hudson and Beyoncé, built their careers around melisma. (Men like Brian McKnight and Tyrese also indulged in it, but women tended to dominate the form.)" Following the release of her Greatest Hits album, Devon Powers of Popmatters has said in his review that "She has influenced countless female vocalists after her. At 32, she is already a living legend—even if she never sings another note."



Fantasy - Mariah Carey (Legacy)

Mariah's "Fantasy" remains one of the finest examples of reworking an extensive sample into a fully realized pop masterpiece.The song and its remix arguably remains as Carey's most important single to date. Due to the success and influence of the song, Carey is credited for introducing R&B and hip hop into mainstream pop culture, and for popularizing rap as a featuring act through her post-1995 songs. Sasha Frere-Jones, editor of The New Yorker commented in referencing to the song's remix, "It became standard for R&B/hip-hop stars like Missy Elliott and Beyoncé, to combine melodies with rapped verses. And young white pop stars—including Britney Spears, 'N Sync, and Christina Aguilera—have spent much of the past ten years making pop music that is unmistakably R&B." Moreover Jones concludes that "Her idea of pairing a female songbird with the leading male MCs of hip-hop changed R&B and, eventually, all of pop. Although now anyone is free to use this idea, the success of “Mimi” suggests that it still belongs to Carey."
John Norris of MTV News has stated that the remix was "responsible for, I would argue, an entire wave of music that we've seen since and that is the R&B-hip-hop collaboration. You could argue that the 'Fantasy' remix was the single most important recording that she's ever made." Norris echoed the sentiments of TLC's Lisa Lopes, who told MTV that it's because of Mariah that we have "R&B." Judnick Mayard, writer of TheFader, wrote that in regarding of R&B and hip hop collaboration, "The champion of this movement is Mariah Carey." Mayard also expressed that "To this day ODB and Mariah may still be the best and most random hip hop collaboration of all time", citing that due to the record "Fantasy", "R&B and Hip Hop were the best of step siblings."



Vision of Love - Mariah Carey (Legacy)

VH1 named "Vision of Love" the fourteenth greatest song of the 1990s. About.com ranked it fourth on its top ten pop hits of 1990 list and twenty-eighth on its top 100 pop songs of the 1990s list. Entertainment Weekly included it on their "10 Great (and 10 Grating) Karaoke Songs" list as a grating karaoke song, saying: "You cannot do this song. Seriously. Tackling this lung-crusher might seem like a fun challenge, but three minutes, five octaves, and one 10-second note later, you will realize that you did not conquer 'Vision of Love.' 'Vision of Love' conquered you." USA Today critic Elysa Gardner picked "Vision of Love" as one of the most intriguing tracks, saying that it is still Mariah's best song. T. Field and a research team discovered that "Vision of Love" is one of the songs that has physiological and biochemical effects on depressed female adolescents. R&B singer Beyoncé Knowles said that she began doing vocal "runs" after listening to "Vision of Love" for the first time.
Devon Powers from Popmatters has stated during the release of Carey's Greatest Hits album that "Mariah’s Greatest Hits moves chronologically through that remarkable career, beginning with “Vision of Love”, the 1990 single that introduced the singer to instant stardom. Still, after so many years and songs, it’s by far among her best, if not the best—a simple testament to the incredible pipes that gave her a permanent place in pop cultural memory." Powers added that "From its first moments, the song demands to be legendary—a gong crash smolders low as Mariah’s gospel-inspired vocals hum confidently, grandly."

Posted by MC Legend! on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 01:23am


Mariah Carey = Minnie Riperton wannabe (only not nearly as talented)...end of story!

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 08:24am


To Gitarzan:

You probably read my post., haha!
For the record, Mariah is not a Minnie Ripperton wannabe and just so you know there's a difference between Contemporary R&B and Soul R&B. Mariah's music is more contemporary & mainstream. And FYI, Mariah listened to Aretha, Gladys Knight, The Clark Sisters and Stevie Wonder more than Minnie Ripperton. They just have this point where they have similar singing technique, of course they both use the whistle register.

I have nothing against Minnie Ripperton and I think she is a great artist and I can't deny the fact that she has influenced Mariah in her whistling singing technique.

End of Story. :D



Posted by MC Legend! on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 11:04am


To Gitarzan:

Or probably I'm wrong,you haven't read my post.
You should read it if you have any doubts about Mariah. Just sayin.

Posted by MC Legend! on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 11:07am


I just know what I hear...which is always a good way to evaluate music and/or artists. That being said, you can post whatever you want...won't change my mind.

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 11:23am


Mariah Carey is already considered a legend, she is the most successful artist of all time, she re-created herself with The Emancipation of Mimi, she is considered "The Voice" of music, face it, Mariah Carey is THEE FORM of MUSIC!!!!!

Posted by Troy Bourland on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 14:29pm


Gitarzan: What's up? Wrong thread, but I actually don't participate in the Song Project. I relate to cohesive albums far more than songs. The Album Project and Revisited/Projected are what I do.

I'll have to check out Minnie Riperton now that you've made that statement, though I think MC Legend! made a convincing argument. I've read some of the same things and I think I did find sources for some of them. I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't lose sleep if she were to be inducted. She may or may not get in... it's a toss-up, depending on the class. She's done all she can for her case at this point, unless she makes a commercial comeback before she's eligible.

Help me with a nominations list for the fall, if you like.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 14:50pm


"she is the most successful artist of all time"

Hardly.

"Mariah Carey is THEE FORM of MUSIC!!!!!"

Explain.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 14:51pm


Sam...here's an example of Minnie riperton for you;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRBHSkXWPCs

The big difference between her and Carey was when she sang in whistle register it wasn't a novelty...it was a vital part of what she did. She could enunciate while singing that high, and she could hold it forever. Her voice just soared.

If anyone listens to her for the first time and are asked to name someone similar, they're going to say "Mariah Carey"...she tries to sing like Minnie Riperton, regardless of who she lists as "influences". It was a real shame we lost her at such a young age, she was such a wonderful talent...

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 06.20.11 @ 20:49pm


To Sam and Gitarzan:

This page is about Mariah Carey being inducted to the rock in roll hall of fame. Just sayin.'

Posted by MC Legend! on Tuesday, 06.21.11 @ 01:45am


Indeed, MC Legend- to which her chances are not very high. Neither she nor her music have garnered all that much acclaim through the years (visit acclaimedmusic.net to understand better). She is far from a shoo-in- the Rock Hall has not nominated Whitney Houston since she became eligible a couple of years ago- and it's unlikely to consider Carey seriously once she's eligible. If it were a Hall of Fame of chart stats and sales, yeah, then she'd be in. But, that's not what the Hall of Fame is about.

Posted by JR on Tuesday, 06.21.11 @ 23:24pm


To JR: Just read my posts above and see what I mean.

Posted by MC Legend! on Monday, 06.27.11 @ 12:14pm


MARIAH CAREY'S LEGACY,

1- IMPACT AND INFLUENCE ON ARTISTS AND ON POPULAR MUSIC AND ON POPULAR CULTURE.

Carey's vocal style and singing ability have significantly impacted popular and contemporary music. Music critic G. Brown from The Denver Post wrote, "For better or worse, Mariah Carey's five-octave range and melismatic style have influenced a generation of pop singers." According to Rolling Stone, "Her mastery of melisma, the fluttering strings of notes that decorate songs like "Vision of Love", inspired the entire American Idol vocal school, for better or worse, and virtually every other female R&B singer since the Nineties." Jody Rosen of Slate Magazine wrote of Carey's influence in music saying "Carey is the most influential vocal stylist of the last two decades, the person who made rococo melismatic singing—the trick of embroidering syllables with multiple no-o-o-o-o-o-tes—the ubiquitous pop style." Rosen further commented on Carey's proof of influence saying "Exhibit A is American Idol, which has often played out as a clash of melisma-mad Mariah wannabes. And, today, nearly 20 years after Carey's debut, major labels continue to bet the farm on young stars such as the winner of Britain's X Factor show, Leona Lewis, with her Generation Next gloss on Mariah's big voice and big hair. Sean Daly of St. Petersburg Times wrote, "Depending on how you feel about public humiliation, the best/worst parts of American Idol are the audition shows, which normally break down into three distinct parts:(1) The Talented Kids.(2) The Weird Kids.(3) The Mariahs." Daly further commented, "The Mariahs are the hardest ones to watch, mainly because most of them think they're reeeaaally good. The poor, disillusioned hopefuls plant themselves in front of judges Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul and Randy Jackson - then proceed to stretch, break and mutilate every note of a song, often Mariah's Hero, a tune that has ruined more throats than smoker's cough." New York Magazine's editor Roger Deckker said that in regarding Carey as an influential artist in music, he commented that "Whitney Houston may have introduced melisma (the vocally acrobatic style of lending a word an extra syllable or twenty) to the charts, but it was Mariah—with her jaw-dropping range—who made it into America’s default sound.[ Deckker also added that "Every time you turn on American Idol, you are watching her children".Despite her vocal prowess, Carey's vocal technique particularly with the use of melisma and belting, has been subject to public scrutiny mainly because of young singers such as from talent shows have been overly imitating her singing technique in which critics commented "Mariah Carey is, without a doubt, the worst thing to happen to amateur singing since the karaoke machine".

The problem, however, is that for all her talent, the 36-year-old is first and foremost a STAR, the very epitome of pop opulence in today's celebrity-dependent culture. And thus, millions of young women and men wake up every morning and figure that, simply by imitating Carey's vocal derring-do, they too can wind up on the cover of People or on MTV Cribs or on the arm of record mogul Tommy Mottola.
Sean Daly from St. Petersburg Times commenting on Carey's popularity and influence on aspiring singers and on worldwide talent shows.
Carey has influenced numerous singers throughout her career. Beyoncé Knowles credits Carey's singing and her song "Vision of Love" as influencing her to begin practicing vocal "runs" as a child, as well as helping her pursue a career as a musician. Rihanna has stated that Carey is one of her major influence and idol. According to Pier Dominguez, author of Christina Aguilera: a star is made : the unauthorized biography, Aguilera has stated how she loved listening to Whitney Houston, but it was Carey who had the biggest influence on her vocal styling. Carey's carefully choreographed image of a grown woman's image struck a chord on Aguilera. Her influence on Aguilera also grew from the fact that both were of mixed heritage. Philip Brasor, editor of "The Japan Times", expressed how Carey's vocal and melismatic style even influenced Asian singers. He wrote regarding Japanese superstar Utada Hikaru, "Utada sang what she heard, from the diaphragm and with her own take on the kind of melisma that became de rigueur in American pop after the ascendance of Mariah Carey." In an article called "Out With Mariah's Melisma, In With Kesha's Kick", writer David Browne of The New York Times discusses how the ubiquitous melisma pop style has suddenly fall down from pop culture in favor of young stars who uses the now ubiquitous autotune in which the first mentioned was heavily popularized into mainstream pop culture with the likes of Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. Browne had commented "But beginning two decades ago, melisma overtook pop in a way it hadn’t before. Mariah Carey’s debut hit from 1990, “Vision of Love,” followed two years later by Whitney Houston’s version of “I Will Always Love You,” set the bar insanely high for notes stretched louder, longer and knottier than most pop fans had ever heard.” Browne further added "A subsequent generation of singers, including Ms. Aguilera, Jennifer Hudson and Beyoncé, built their careers around melisma. (Men like Brian McKnight and Tyrese also indulged in it, but women tended to dominate the form.)" Following the release of her Greatest Hits album, Devon Powers of Popmatters has said in his review that "She has influenced countless female vocalists after her. At 32, she is already a living legend—even if she never sings another note."

Posted by RRHOF on Tuesday, 08.16.11 @ 09:24am


2 - a.)LEGACY AND INNOVATION OF GENRE(ex.POP/RnB and Hip Hop collaboration with a Rap artist)
b.) THE INNOVATION OF POPULARIZING(meaning she's not the first, but through her musical genius she created this type of style, the remix game) A SONG(ex.Ballads, hit songs) TO TURNING IT INTO A REMIX.(with club beats)


Carey is also credited for introducing R&B and hip hop into mainstream pop culture, and for popularizing rap as a featuring act through her post-1995 songs. Sasha Frere-Jones, editor of The New Yorker commented, "It became standard for R&B/hip-hop stars like Missy Elliott and Beyoncé, to combine melodies with rapped verses. And young white pop stars—including Britney Spears, 'N Sync, and Christina Aguilera—have spent much of the past ten years making pop music that is unmistakably R&B." Moreover Jones concludes that "Her idea of pairing a female songbird with the leading male MCs of hip-hop changed R&B and, eventually, all of pop. Although now anyone is free to use this idea, the success of “Mimi” suggests that it still belongs to Carey." Judnick Mayard, writer of TheFader, wrote that in regarding of R&B and hip hop collaboration, "The champion of this movement is Mariah Carey." Mayard also expressed that "To this day ODB and Mariah may still be the best and most random hip hop collaboration of all time", citing that due to the record "Fantasy", "R&B and Hip Hop were the best of step siblings." Kelfa Sanneh of The New York Times wrote, "In the mid-1990's Ms. Carey pioneered a subgenre that some people call the thug-love duet. Nowadays clean-cut pop stars are expected to collaborate with roughneck rappers, but when Ms. Carey teamed up with Ol' Dirty Bastard, of the Wu-Tang Clan, for the 1995 hit "Fantasy (Remix)", it was a surprise, and a smash."







3 - Creating a Classic Christmas Song and Album. :D

Aside from her pop culture and musical influence, Carey is credited for releasing a classic Christmas song called "All I Want For Christmas Is You". In a retrospective look at Carey's career, Sasha Frere-Jones of The New Yorker said, the "charming" song was one of Carey's biggest accomplishments, calling it "one of the few worthy modern additions to the holiday canon". Rolling Stone ranked "All I Want for Christmas Is You" fourth on its Greatest Rock and Roll Christmas Songs list, calling it a "holiday standard."

Posted by RRHOF on Tuesday, 08.16.11 @ 09:25am


4.) HER RECORD BREAKING ACHIEVEMENTS ARE A BONUS(some may or may not consider it, but able to achieve this feats, means that there is a credibility in this artist and how she really is important and influential and her IMPACT and LEGACY solidifies it.)

In a career spanning over 20 years, Carey has sold over 200 million albums, singles, and videos worldwide, making her one of the biggest-selling artists in music history. Carey is ranked as the best-selling female artist of the Nielsen SoundScan era, with over 52 million copies sold. Possessing a five-octave vocal range, Carey was ranked first in MTV and Blender magazine's 2003 countdown of the 22 Greatest Voices in Music, and was placed second in Cove magazine's list of "The 100 Outstanding Pop Vocalists". Aside from her voice, she has become known for her songwriting. Yahoo Music editor Jason Ankeny wrote, "She earned frequent comparison to rivals Whitney Houston and Celine Dion, but did them both one better by composing all of her own material." According to Billboard magazine, she was the most successful artist of the 1990s in the United States. At the 2000 World Music Awards, Carey was given a Legend Award for being the "best-selling female pop artist of the millennium", as well as the "Best-selling artist of the 90s" in the United States, after releasing a series of albums of multi-platinum status in Asia and Europe, such as Music Box and Number 1's. She is also a recipient of the Chopard Diamond Awardin 2003, recognizing sales of over 100 million albums worldwide. Additionally, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) lists Carey as the third-best-selling female artist, with shipments of over 63 million units in the U.S. In Japan, Carey has the top four highest-selling albums of all time by a non-Asian artist.

Posted by RRHOF on Tuesday, 08.16.11 @ 09:28am


Mariah's influence is evident in today's generation of artists.

Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Beyonce, Kelly Clarkson, Leona Lewis, Lady Gaga have ALL cited Mariah as an influence.

Mariah also popularized and pioneered the pop/hip-hop collaboration.

She is without doubt the Greatest singer of our generation.

Posted by Bastian on Tuesday, 11.29.11 @ 22:12pm


after Glitter, I would have said NO!

But after staging one of the Greatest Comebacks in music history with the Emacipation of Mimi. ABSOLUTELY DESERVEDLY !!!

Posted by Bastian on Tuesday, 11.29.11 @ 22:15pm


Mariah's LEGENDARY status was just re-affirmed.

she will be receiving a top honor in January 2012.
BET Honoree for lifetime contribution to African-American culture.



suck on that Haterz!
Your favs could NEVER!
Mariah = Often imitated, NEVER duplicated.


Posted by Bastian on Monday, 12.12.11 @ 11:11am


Ok lets put it this way. Outside of the beatles mariah is the only artist of that caliber of success to actually be creating the music she sings. To this day people sing hero and vision of love in school. To hell with american idol. Almost every up and coming singer I know tries to sound like her. Hell brett manning vocal coach uses her as a standard and everyone tries to hit that hogh noe. FYI Mariah is so damn influential half people saw her cut off jeans in heartbreaker and started the hip hugging trend. Like her music or not if you are honest you would have to admit that even if someone else was writing her stuff she would still be a better artist than madonna. I love Mariah and I listen to real music from Joe Strummer to Jimi Hendrix and out of moat popular artist she is one of the few to actually be deemed an artist as she is creating the music she makes. Where as Elvis
and Madonna got to where they are by having others make their music and acting wild and crazy to get attention. Call her music pop all you want, but at least she's writing it. Madonnas music is pure garbage she doesn't write and and she can't sing it. If Mariah doesn't belong then she really doesn't sorry. BTW the artist mariah inspired have way more talent than the ones madonna did. If anyone is gonna argue that MC is not a real artist then please compare her to someone who is. Cause even though a lot of the people mentioned a lot of them have others creating their music and there dances. She is doing it herself.

Posted by bright on Tuesday, 02.21.12 @ 14:45pm


Madonna actually does write most of her own music.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 02.21.12 @ 14:46pm


I agree bright
She is true talent !

Posted by Happy on Tuesday, 02.21.12 @ 15:20pm


Mariah has an excellent voice, but with the exception of her first two albums and a handful of subsequent singles, her output has a 'sameness' to it that bores me silly. While Madonna certainly doesn't have the same natural talent when it comes to vocals, the production and song choices (through Confessions) are superior.

Posted by Paul on Tuesday, 02.21.12 @ 17:07pm


I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't have too much of an issue with her induction for the reasons bright stated, and she does have an excellent voice. I must for once disagree with GFW:

"Madonna actually does write most of her own music."

Yes and no. Madonna's first hit was third single Holiday... she has no songwriting or production credits. The first big hits (Top 10) were Borderline and Lucky Star, and she didn't write the former. Upon further inspection, however, she did write the tracks on her first album other than Holiday and Borderline, including Lucky Star. She didn't write Like A Virgin or Material Girl, but she does have co-writing credits on 4 of the 9 tracks on the Like A Virgin album, and one solely written alone. She co-wrote Into The Groove. Based on this early stage, it would appear that she DOES write some things.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 02.21.12 @ 18:49pm


Actually Madonna didn't write the main hits on her first three albums such as Holiday, Borderline, Like a Virgin, Material Girl, Dress You Up. She also didn't write her 1985 hit Crazy For You. The problem is that she had a tendency to shoehorn in on songwriting credits. This really begins on her third album. For example, she didn't write her hit Papa Don't Preach (Wikipedia notwithstanding), but a note on the albums states that she added "additional lyrics." A pattern developed where she would get fully written songs and then change a few lyrics, if at all. (Anyone ever see the lyric sheets?) The apparent price of her using the song was then her being given a songwriting credit. This happened with Open Your Heart and Isla La Bonita, both songs previously written for other artists. All this culminates with Justify My Love, a song written and demoed by the singer Ingrid Chavez. According to a lawsuit Chavez filed which settled in her favor, she presented the song to Madonna and Lenny Kravitz in the studio. Madonna then changed a couple of words and copied Chavez's vocal style. Chavez was then asked to sign a nondisclosure agreement and Madonna's name mysteriously appears on the songwriting credits.

The point is that once you have examples of an artist stealing credit (nondisclosure agreements imply a certain degree of sophistication and experience), it becomes hard to trust anything they did. The fact is that her career went from her major hits being written for her to her claiming to "write" songs, a change that coincided with her increased commercial clout where songwriters could be bought for the price of doing business. (Would Stephen Bray or Patrick Leonard ever complain given the money they were making?) It's quite a Pandora's box, but that's what happens when you never lift the veil on your career. Madonna never strikes anyone as the type that gives credit. Thus you are left with suspicion and some distaste at the level of blatant careerism.
That said, songwriting credits today in pop music are a joke, so there is sadly a context.

Posted by astrodog on Wednesday, 02.22.12 @ 02:15am


Lets get a few things STRAIGHT! Mariah has had more od an influence on music and Madonna has had more of an influence on pop culture. MC got famous for wowing us with her range and madge for pushing the envelope. People want to sing like mc and get attention like madge. They are both great at what they do. Mimi clearly the artist, madge clearly the icon. Celine Dion is nothing, but a singer who has made no impact whatsoever. That being said people have a hard time giving people credit for there gifts wherewver they happen to be. Anyway as far as Mariah not being respected
in the industry. I really believe a lot of people are jealous of her because those who write usually can't sing. Those who
sing usually don't write and rarely do either of those groups
look as good. Mimi has a lot to offer. Plus she has personality. Hell she put Cribs on the map. Not too many singers can stand on stage with her and outshine her for a lot of reasons and they know that. Love her hate her she is in a league of her own. From her debut single and she is relevant to this day. Hell if I was in the industry with her I would hate her ass too. Jlo, Madge and plenty others know that even if they date the right people to keep their names out there they will never have the success she has had overall or have a major chunck of the credit for it. An artist is someone who creates music that touches the hearts of people and congrats Mariah you have done that. Truth be told all these women have accomplished so much being inducted would not be their greates achievment....period

Posted by SoundBox on Wednesday, 02.22.12 @ 14:10pm


madonna's sold more.
just saying.

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 02.22.12 @ 14:25pm


"Celine Dion is nothing, but a singer who has made no impact whatsoever."

OK first of all I don't care for Celine Dion at all and I think she should be inducted first ballot into the Noise Pollution Hall of Fame. Nevertheless, I'd like to see you say that to her face. I wouldn't exactly say selling 200+ million albums amounts to "no impact whatsoever."

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 02.22.12 @ 14:30pm


I would hope Madonna would have sold more considering she has been out longer and has twice as many albums. Hello people if you averaged it out ai am pretty sure Mariah has sold more.plus she looks better sounds better and has a ccomplished more in less time.

Posted by beatit on Wednesday, 02.22.12 @ 23:16pm


My guess is YES!!!

Posted by Happy on Wednesday, 03.21.12 @ 22:46pm


There are some CRAZY OBSESSED fans of hers here!

But, is she necessarily rock, no, not in the slightest bit. But her much of her material is heavily influenced by the r&b groups of the early 60's, motown, phil spector era, etc.

I don't listen to the more popular selections in her back catalogue. Actually, the real gems are hidden. I like a lot of her hip hop-oriented music from the late 90's.

But I do agree with those who note her influence. Actually I think Carey is underrated in this department. So is she worthy of being put in the same category as Elvis, Chuck, Aretha, Little Richard, The Beatles? not really....but is she worthy of being among Madonna, Darlene Love, Dusty Springfield and Janis Joplin in a list of underrepresented solo female inductees, I'd say yes.

Posted by genesix on Friday, 03.30.12 @ 10:14am


Well, It's tough to say.
I think Maria should eventually be in because she is a talented singer and a big influence.

Mariah has made beautiful songs, but often forgettable and overly fluffy and cutesy.
Vision of Love, All I Want For Christmas is You and We Belong Together are exhibits of true greatness. All I Want For Christmas is You is honestly the only real modern addition to the Christmas music canon.

Mariah has always been about the power of the rap duet despite her gigantic voice and diva theatrics. She brought quite a few rappers into the mainstream radio world (Ol Dirty Bastard, Jay-Z, Da Brat, Nas)

Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Leona Lewis (considered some of the best pop divas of recent years) are influenced greatly Mariah. Beyonce and Christina have both mentioned that "Vision of Love" was one of their biggest inspirations.

However it can't be denied that so many of her frequently bragged about number ones are completely forgettable (I Don't Wanna Cry, My All, Don't Forget About Us) and others are syrupy/corny (One Sweet Day, Touch My Body). Alot of Mariah's music is a transient pleasure.

But I will say on the fact that she has two great albums (Mariah Carey, Emancipation of Mimi) and so much influence- Mariah deserves to eventually make the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

Posted by Erock on Tuesday, 06.11.13 @ 15:06pm


no dice! Lip syncher.

Posted by Benny on Monday, 07.1.13 @ 15:18pm


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Which letter is Springsteen's band named after?
 

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