If Green Day gets inducted I will shoot-.....Green Day.

Posted by Ian on Sunday, 07.30.06 @ 00:36am

I agree. if they make it I better make it, and i'm just a hobby muscician

Posted by Chris on Sunday, 07.30.06 @ 15:10pm

YES YES YES YES YES YES without a doubt

even if you don't like Green Day, you have to admit that they are worthy of a spot in the hall of fame. They certainly contributed a lot to rock 'n roll and brought back punk, even if it wasn't in its original form (who said it had to be, it's better that they do their own thing). They capture the spirit of rock 'n roll, and have influenced countless music groups. They're original, talented, prolific, notorious, and an overall amazing band. They write fantastic songs and, although they're on MTV, you can't help but notice that they don't fit in with the slew of Fall Out Boys, All American Rejects, blink-182s, panic at the discos, etc. They're different. They're better. They could take on their idols if they wanted to. Anyone who thinks that Green Day isn't deserving of a spot in the hall of fame obviously knows nothing about music.

Posted by ... on Thursday, 08.31.06 @ 16:23pm

HELL YES, THEY DESERVE TO BE IN.

Posted by BRIAN on Monday, 09.25.06 @ 16:09pm

yes! yes! yes! duh, of course they have to get in. Their guitar chords might be pretty simple, but it's Green Day! They've got their own sound, the have a kick-ass drummer, and their music has matured and become so much better than before. Although, i have to admit, I miss how they used to be snot-nosed punks, but i still love their music now.

Posted by Corinne on Sunday, 10.8.06 @ 20:40pm

No they haven't contributed much to the music industry besides making all their albums sound the same.

Posted by Sean on Monday, 10.9.06 @ 19:09pm

Green Day does deserve to be in the RNRHOF in 2014. No brainer. Why? !) they revivved Punk (in a mainstream sort of way.)
2) Inspired other pop-punk bands, like Sum 41

3) If you play with U2 in front of a live audience, you better be in the HALL!

Sorry sorry. Last one was bit.. off topic. WE'll probably see whats off their next album, but they're in (Along with Nirvana)

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 10.10.06 @ 18:57pm

you obviously do not know anything by green day except their american idiot music by criticizing them. even if you do, you are just trying to be cool by insulting them because you are insecure. if you knew anything or had any taste, you would know that green day, indeed, has talent.

Posted by greendayrulz on Wednesday, 10.11.06 @ 18:25pm

The American Idiot album is Green Day's ticket to the Hall. Before that album, they were still a popular and respected band, but that album moved them up to the all-time greats. Green Day is not the most creative or talented band, but they have been making good solid rock music for 15 years now and show no signs of slowing down.

Posted by A-Killa on Friday, 10.20.06 @ 06:53am

NO! NO! NO! They turned punk into what it never wanted to be: commercial. They jumped on the Anti-bush bandwagon to revive their dead careers and now every 14 year old girl thinks Billie Joe is 22 years old (hes like 35).

Posted by Keegan on Saturday, 10.21.06 @ 14:09pm

No they haven't contributed much to the music industry besides making all their albums sound the same.

For you to say that tells me you've done nothing but occasionaly hear their singles on the radio.


NO! NO! NO! They turned punk into what it never wanted to be: commercial. They jumped on the Anti-bush bandwagon to revive their dead careers and now every 14 year old girl thinks Billie Joe is 22 years old (hes like 35).

Their careers were far from dead.

Posted by BRIAN on Thursday, 10.26.06 @ 00:16am

Hell yeah, Green Day rock, they really started the 1990's punk scene, if you don't like green day, you're an Bush loving American Idiot

Posted by Frodijr on Thursday, 11.23.06 @ 11:26am

See, that's what grown-ups call an "either-or" fallacy. I find Green Day boring, repetitive, and unskilled at songwriting, and I'm also a massively liberal person. In fact, as someone who takes politics seriously and sees it as the five-dimensional entity it is, for a bunch of idiots like Green Day and think that adopting a political pose is the best way to sell records that week, and what's more, to have people adopt their name-calling approach to politics as gospel is downright insulting.

So yeah, you say that again you get punched. Fair warning.

Posted by Kit on Friday, 11.24.06 @ 10:34am

Calling Billie Joe's songwriting capability, and the rest of the band's contributions to the music "unskilled" renders the previous post irrelevant because it is wrong from an objective standpoint. Do you own all 8 Green Day albums? No? Then you clearly haven't heard a representative sample of the music and aren't really able to comment, as much as you'd like to. Billie Joe is a great guitarist, Mike is a capable and creative bassist, and Tre is nothing short of manic. And nearly all the songs are great, unlike nearly every other band in the history of recorded music (with the exception of the Beatles) who turn in lackluster material to fill out albums, focusing the talent they have into a few songs for which they become known instead of making the entire purchase listenable. Of course they go in the hall '14.

Posted by Tim on Wednesday, 11.29.06 @ 22:14pm

Okay, so ripping off the Mr. T Experience now counts as good songwriting. Good to know, I guess.

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 11.30.06 @ 09:39am

I don't think they will be inducted. I admire Green Day and they have consistently produced a high standard of work, but they haven't really been 'innovative' enough or had enough impact to be inducted, though American Idiot was a very ambitious move. The answer depends greatly on their next album.

By the way I own every album from Dookie onwards, so I have a good idea of what I'm talking about.

Posted by Paul on Thursday, 12.7.06 @ 03:25am

Dude, just because they are popular doesn't mean they are great musicians, Hell! They are terrible! They did nothing to punk but change the name of it from pop (they are just about the same today, excluding the fashions). If you guys knew what real punk rock was maybe you'd trash Greenday and Go with the Clash, Newyork Dolls, Television, the Jam, maybe even the Ramones, HELL! Blondie is atleast 5X more punk than Greenday (they are really a new wave punk band btw); Learn something about punk first before you try to adopt it. Just cause you wear studded belts, Shop at Hot topic, and wear chucks doesn't mean you are a little punk at heart. Punk music was about having fun and not playing music just for money(=Greenday) you gotta play cause you love music and don't give a shit how bad you are!

Posted by Kendall N. on Wednesday, 12.13.06 @ 22:12pm

kendall kendall kendall... perhaps you should learn how to spell... New York is two words dear, and the New York Dolls were great, but the Ramones were sheer pop. Anyway, before you criticize green day, learn a bit about their history. they didn't do it for the money and to be big stars, asshole, they did it as a way of life and so they could have a square meal. they built their reputation as a great band by tour and selling merch DIY style and toured in a ####ing BOOKMOBILE for years. People consider them to be sell outs, but look what Lookout! did to them: Green Day were the band single-handily keeping Lookout! from going bankrupt, and Lookout! decides not to pay the royalties. They basically screw green day. thats why green day left. so maybe learn a little history before you go bitching.

Posted by Who wants to know on Thursday, 12.28.06 @ 14:09pm

Lookout! was also the only label willing to give them a chance when they were snot-nosed little kids ripping off the Mr. T Experience. They didn't pay the royalties because they couldn't pay the royalties. Green Day suing Lookout just to get money that they already had ten times over shows a remarkable lack of character and loyalty, and makes them actual sellouts as opposed to the standard use of the word which means "they evolved and I didn't."

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 12.28.06 @ 14:49pm

I hate to sound cynical, but would you turn down the money Green Day received by signing to a major label? I mean, Anti-Flag only signed to a major label after 10 YEARS on the underground punk scene because they wanted to make sure their music was uncensored. Green Day just simply wasn't interested in politics at the release of Dookie (exemplified in their lyrics).

As for their actual music, they did drag punk into the mainstream by injecting a poppy, catchy tune into the music. This however, was what the punks wanted-A chance to be in the spotlight and say "#### Off"- Punk was just not willing to step up to the plate. Punk, however, has always had a poppy attitude (I mean, Raw Power was mixed by David Bowie at the time and the New York Dolls weren't exactly the heaviest sound either.)

In the end, Green Day did nothing new to scene other than revive it. All they wanted to do was play their music and not live in poverty doing it (like the Hardcore flagship band Black Flag).

P.S.: Punk Musicianship has never been all that complex (The Clash, Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Die Hunns, and all the Protopunk and Hardcore Bands, for example).

Posted by X on Thursday, 01.4.07 @ 02:22am

hell yeah Green Day should be in, they have written so many great albums and songs, 99% of their songs are catchy and amazing, and they played with u2- how ownage is that?

Posted by kfeointgh on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 04:20am

"they played with u2- how ownage is that?"

Surprisingly, not very, particularly since U2 lost what little edge they had a long time ago.

Posted by William on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 22:31pm

All i have to say is stop voting for green day because they are not punk anymore, maybe before but no more. While your at it go vote for Dead Kennedys because they are what punk really is about!

Posted by Eric Augustine on Thursday, 01.11.07 @ 11:05am

Oh come on, you can't really argue with Green Day anymore. "American Idiot" is a pretty brilliant album. I know, we were all pretty suspicious of them when "Dookie" came out - they jumped at the major labels, they're pop punk, yeah - but those songs have stood up really well with time.

Sorry haters, but Green Day is an easy in.

Posted by Al on Wednesday, 01.24.07 @ 08:48am

Wow stupid question and even stupidier people who say no to it.Green day may have gone way mainstream but there music has always been orginal.Each song has something to say with a different rhythm to it.They have a song for almost every person.That really should count to true music(espeically rock)fans.They brought back punk in a new edgy 2000 way.Any person who apreciated music they can relate to,feel,and overall get into...should no doubt give green day a vote into the RARHOF.Its green day.Their timeless.No other band has been able to sell that mant records for that many years not even some of the greats.Thats punk...that IS ROCK AND ROLL.

Posted by Josh on Tuesday, 01.30.07 @ 19:08pm

I like Green Day alright, in the sense that if a song comes on the radio I probably won't change the station, but I don't know if I would call them Hall of Fame worthy. To me they just scream "solid rock band" which isn't ecessarily a bad thing, but a group needs to be more than just solid to be considered one of the all time greats.

Posted by Mike B. on Monday, 02.5.07 @ 07:48am

i think they should cuz i said so. they are good at singing and i like pretty much all of their songs.

Posted by tasha on Sunday, 02.25.07 @ 15:42pm

While the backlash continues with AI, most people aren't aware of their work in the 90s. Their album Dookie changed rock at that time. When it became successful, other punk-styled bands joined in like Offspring, Rancid, etc. A new form of rock came.

Even without AI, GD will make it into the hall of fame, but maybe not their first year though, unless they release another mega album.

Posted by maplejet on Tuesday, 02.27.07 @ 11:02am

Thank god the people posting aren't deciding. Greenday is a band, i'm pretty neutral on liking them, but i would NEVER say that they deserve a hall spot. The hall is for people who innovated and influenced music, these guys just play rock... nothing special enough to get them in.

Posted by WOW on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 16:02pm

green day is one of - if not THE, most influential bands out there right now. you can't tell me green day shouldn't be in the rock hall of fame. they should already be in there by now.

Posted by emily. on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 12:49pm

Green Day has indeed influenced the music industry, and deserve a spot. Someone of you say Green Day are sellouts for jumping on the anti-Bush band wagon. But AI was one of the first anti-Bush CDs to go on the shelves after 9-11. And why should'nt they turn to politics? At the release of Nimrod they were young, when the wrote AI they were older, and had views are more important things. Do you expect them to be 35 and singing about how they hate their parents and Billie's girlfriend left him for a loser? It is expected that they're lyrics changed and evolved after such a long hiatus.

Posted by PJ on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 14:31pm

Theres no doubt in my mind that Green day will withstand the test of time. All their music is Original and clever, even though the chords seem thrown together it works and people love it. (although, i do think its getting annoying seeing American Idiot merch sold at teeny-bopper stores)

Posted by Anna on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 17:33pm

Saying their political lyrics are "evolved" is laughable to anyone who has taken even a 9th-grade social studies class. Their political views are childishly simple to the point that singing about masturbation would probably be more mature.

Kit's already explained why they weren't "original" better than I could.

Posted by William on Thursday, 03.15.07 @ 18:06pm

OF COURSE THEY WILL! THEY ARE ROCK GODS. EVERYONE IS JUST JEALOUS OF ALL THEIR SUCCESS, GO GREEN DAY!!!! YOU GUYS WILL MAKE IT NO DOUBT. YOU DESERVE IT, BEST AND IN THE WORLD BY FAR!

Posted by krisanne on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 08:18am

Green Day is the best ####ing band ever and they DEFINITELY deserve a spot. Over 80% of the people are agreeing with this right now, so I say, in the words of Charlie the Unicorn, Shun the non-believers, shun, shuuuuuuuun...

Posted by lauren on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 08:41am

Ok, If you think Green Day's albums all sound the same you're definatly not somebody who's listened to work from multiple albums. American Idiot is SOOOOOO different from anything that they had previously done it's not even funny. Besides, simalarities are what keep fans loyal, so having amazing riffs in every album helps.

Posted by Matt ~_~ on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 11:37am

Green Day deserves this alot. All 9 great different albums. An actual band with talent!! They are The best band ever!

Posted by Mariah on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 14:17pm

Green Day have sold 22 million albums according to the RIAA. that means that they have sold more albums than: Graand funk railroad, stevie ray vaughn, the temptations, yes, john lennon, ted nugent, paul mccartney, black sabbath, bad company, janis joplin, kansas, styx, the grateful dead, Neil young, sting, crosby stills nash and young, jackson browne, kiss, stevie wonder, r.e.m., red hot chili peppers, the who, heart, meatloaf, johnny cash, creedence clearwater revival, the beach boys, genesis, the ddobie brothers, bestie boys, reo speedwagon, and JIMI HENDRIX. they've sold more albums than these legendary artists, and while they aren't better than some and can't touch a few, they are still deserving. listen to dookie, along with Kurt cobain's death, green day put a dagger into the heart of grunge. Like it not, they revolutionized the late 90s and directly influenced Blink-182 and the more recent punk/emo music that is so prominent in American music today. yes they get in

Posted by Joey on Sunday, 03.18.07 @ 18:15pm

greenday will be inducted i guess dookie is what you could call a "fun" album but without american idiot they would never be inducted. Not only was american idiot solid songwriting throughout, it is the defing album for a time in american history (post 9-11)

Posted by chris on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 18:43pm

i am spanish...green day is the best!!!

my msn is varete15@hotmail.com

if somebody like speak with me

Posted by alvaro on Tuesday, 03.20.07 @ 08:48am

I believe they should get in. Regardless of whether you like them or not, they should get in for a few reasons. They are a tallented band. They have peronalities and history. They are awesome kickass rockers. I honestly don't see how all of you narrow-minded people don't see that. They will get inducted, and truly deserve it. I love their attitudes, and they're a bunch of cool dudes. Rock on, Green Day!

Posted by Natalie on Wednesday, 03.21.07 @ 14:33pm

yes green day shoud be inducted they are no doubt the biggest punk band ever and have sold over 60 million albums

Posted by chris on Wednesday, 03.21.07 @ 15:47pm

greenday has inspired so many artistes. if it wasint for them newer bands wouldnt even be here. even if your not a huge fan. everyone likes at least one greenday song. they dont care wat people think they alk about palloticts and things no other bands dare to sing about.. they so diserve to be recamended for futur rock hall i see nothing but bigger and better things ..

Posted by kristal on Saturday, 04.7.07 @ 17:08pm

Right, if not for Green Day, NO modern musicians would exist AT ALL.

That argument certainly makes sense.

And of course no other PUNK bands have EVER talked politics. What a novel idea!

I have to turn off the sarcasm for a second. If the person above me honestly believes what she just said, then I have nothing but pity for her.

Well, pity mixed with a little scorn.

Posted by William on Saturday, 04.7.07 @ 18:13pm

Don't say stupid things about "bands today."

Damn radio junkies.

Posted by William on Sunday, 04.15.07 @ 15:17pm

The number of albums sold does not indicate that they are worthy of an award. Pop culture is quite like aids. One person says they like something and it spreads like wild fire. If they make it than the hall will have no reputation left to hold on to.

Posted by Thomas Freed on Thursday, 04.19.07 @ 12:59pm

Green Day is in.. I mean cmon. With teh huge Alternative-mainstreem music boom of the early 90's, they were one of the few that stood out. Along with Nirvana, RHCP, and Pearl Jam, they are very influential and very simple at the same time. They haven't "sold out". They still rock the mic and their American Idiot albums even better than half of the emo/Pop/rap crap thats out there. I mean, if this was Pink Floyd's The Wall album and we complained how much their album "selled out" (it really didn't), that kinda makes us all hypricrates.
green Day haters should be ashamed of themselves. Green Day lovers, keep voting yes! Make them in the Hall by '14

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 04.21.07 @ 14:08pm

If bankrupting the people who helped you make a name for yourself just to get money that neither they had nor you needed doesn't count as selling out, what does?

Posted by William on Sunday, 04.22.07 @ 00:09am

Forgot to say one more thing, THEY R NOT A MAJOR MUSIC INFLUENCE, THEY MADE PUNK INTO POP CRAP, and its just aweful. case closed

Posted by Dave on Sunday, 04.22.07 @ 20:56pm

Not a major influence? That's almost as retarded as the idea that a single shitty band can ruin an entire genre.

Posted by William on Monday, 04.23.07 @ 00:17am

HAHAHAHA! wow...just wow. some people these days...

Posted by Dave on Monday, 04.23.07 @ 11:40am

Their influence, terrible as it may be, is very real. That said, there's no way in hell that a single band could ruin punk. Ever. You might as well have said that they ruined folk or big band music.

But I'll play along. Explain how they did it.

Posted by William on Monday, 04.23.07 @ 16:15pm

A single shitty band CAN ruin a genre, by showing other bands in the genre that songs don't need to be intelligent, edgy, or original in order to sell. By domino effect, the other bands do the same thing, creating a more popular genre, but in doing so, watering down the essence.

As for the number of albums sold, the numbers I've heard are all over the place. 20 million, 60 million... and the list of bands they have trumped in sales is very hard to believe, I don't think there's much evidence to back that claim.

The reason why Green Day is so popular is not because they are good, it's because they're so famous. The reason for this is the major label and sponsorship by MTV, VH1, etc. To get an edge over the other famous punk bands, they decided to adopt the methods of the bands that had emerged all over during the Reagan administration, and attack the conservative president. Seeing as how most mass media is liberal-biased, this worked like a charm, shooting their popularity through the roof.

Green Day has done more to hurt Punk rock than to help it, by bringing it out into the open and making it something people think they can do. Punk has always been about being least liked, and voicing views opposite to popular belief. It's supposed to be angry, and make a stance. Green Day took this and turned it around, putting out popular views and opinions that people will like, turning Punk rock into Pop rock. A punk is a rebel. You're rebelling if you're f***ing PART OF THE MAJORITY!

Sadly, the rock hall seems to be now about a popularity contest, and not a real talent contest. Whoever can sell the most albums gets in, so Green Day will probably make it in.

If you're going to say "Why would a band be popular if they were bad?" think about this for a moment.
According to Green Day, Bush is a bad president. Bush got Re-elected. That means more than 50% of you dumbf***s voted for a bad president. TWICE!

I don't NEED to buy all their CD's to tell whether they suck or not. If I buy one or two and they both suck, I'm not going to go back to the store and buy all the rest just to see if they suck as well. If you do this kind of thing, then no wonder you think they're a good band.

'Nuff said.

Posted by King Wiley on Wednesday, 04.25.07 @ 16:51pm

EDIT:
You're not rebelling if you're PART OF THE MAJORITY!


I hate when the most important sentence in the essay is the only one that is messed up.

Posted by King Wiley on Wednesday, 04.25.07 @ 16:55pm

interesting points, and the bottom line is that green day doesnt belong in the rock hall along with eric clapton, the doors, the stones and all the other great bands. please underdstand that! so stop tryin to argue that they should get in cuz ull be BURNED even worse the next time. enough is enough.

Posted by Dave on Wednesday, 04.25.07 @ 23:14pm

Do I need to just list the sheer number of non-sellout punk bands that have come, gone, and currently exist in this post-Green Day world for you to get it?

The might ruin your daily drive while listening to the radio, but they are not even remotely capable of ruining punk.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 04.25.07 @ 23:55pm

Green Day BETTER be inducted into the hall of fame. they did sooo much for the future of punk rock that it would be a shame if anyone in this world would deny them that honor. they changed the way that me and many other people in this hell hole that we call earth look at their music. I TOTALLY RESPECT them for that....

ROCK ON GREEN DAY!!!!!

Posted by cody leach on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 05:59am

Again, no one band has the power to radically influence an entire genre unless they happen to create it or at least get in on it very early.

Green Day were nowhere near the first pop-punk bands. The only influence they have is on a few current and former mainstream pop-punk bands. They have virtually nothing in the way of innovation.

Posted by William on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 06:41am

u just dont get it do u cody...

Posted by Dave on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 07:57am

Sure, go ahead and list punk bands today that weren't influenced by Green Day.

If so many weren't influenced by Green Day and remain good punk bands, then I guess Green Day isn't that influential after all, huh? So if they're not influential, why add them to the hall of fame?

If, on the other hand, they ARE that influential, then they have ruined all of those current bands today that they influenced, and should not be added to the hall of fame.

Posted by King Wiley on Thursday, 04.26.07 @ 21:13pm

The hell? Changing the punk culture?

First off, there's not any one single punk scene. There's several going on at any given time. Second, nothing they do hasn't been done before. Nothing. They're not changing jack.

Posted by William on Friday, 04.27.07 @ 18:17pm

Being the manager would b sweet, and i would try 2 be nicer lol, but all kiddin aside here, the thing is dude, there r other punk bands tryin 2 make a change in punk culture who r not in the mainstream. Could b indie bands/bands with independant labels. The way green day did it is that theyve brought pop punk in2 mainstream, turing it in a way that punk wouldnt want it 2 to be. hell the lead singer of the sex pistols said this, "So there we are fending off all that and it pisses me off that years later a wank outfit like Green Day hop in and nick all that and attach it to themselves. They didn't earn their wings to do that and if they were true punk they wouldn't look anything like they do." So i hope u understand this plus they were not the only band that did this. Hell dookie was theyre 1st major label signing. Before that, they were no major label signings. What im saying is this, i dont respect this band who are tryin 2 b different, cuz theyre not, and now theyre just changing their image (emo looking) to regain popularity with a younger audiance for instance american idiot which is just aweful pure and simple.

Posted by Dave on Friday, 04.27.07 @ 19:15pm

Im just stating the facts here. The truth, thats it.

Posted by Dave on Saturday, 04.28.07 @ 12:53pm

At first i was being a prick though, so my bad, hehe, but i still stand on my side on green day, plus we r all entitled to our opinions and not everyone will like the same thing.

Posted by Dave on Tuesday, 05.1.07 @ 11:56am

I think they're well worthy enough, and their so popular it's probably not even possible for them to not make it! They had a few great albums, and if anyone hasn't heard yet, they are going to release 3 albums during summer '08, it is undecided if it will be released as a set. Imagine it, 50 new Green Day songs all at once! You must have bravery to attempt that, they should be inducted just for that!

Posted by Robert on Wednesday, 05.2.07 @ 22:01pm

yeah see robert has a point..that does take some balls..but hey thats what us green day fans live for huh?...but whatever im dont talking about this subject...byeee

Posted by cody leach on Thursday, 05.3.07 @ 08:18am

Releasing 50+ songs all at once does not make them any better of a band, or brave, or anything. I don't know why I even bother, this site really has no affiliation with the real rock and roll hall of fame.

Posted by King Wiley on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 22:44pm

Indeed - the real Rock Hall takes no suggestions from the little people. This entire site is an exercise in futility, if you look at it one way. Or, just a way to express why you like what you do.

Posted by Moni3 on Tuesday, 05.15.07 @ 06:22am

If you want to express yourself, go join a normal forum, instead of hanging around this useless P.O.S.

Posted by King Wiley on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 02:01am

There is no possibility of them NOT getting in. "Dookie" broke punk into the mainstream for the first time, "Insomniac" was one of the first times a band could release a very difficult album and still have it become succesful, "nimrod." featured "Time of Your Life", which will be heard at every graduation until the universe implodes, "Warning:"...let's not talk about that one. "American Idiot" had people reminding them of their influence on every punk band to come out in the past decade. Even if you hate them, you have to admit they did alot for their genre. Probably will get inducted first or second year, especially with the suprise hit that was "American Idiot". Grammy for 2005 "Record of the Year" (for "Boulevard of Broken Dreams") doesn't hurt either.

Posted by Ryan Gibbs on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:14pm

wow. Green Day definately deserves this. i mean duh. they have so many influences, and are only second to pearl jam when it comes to having so many influences. that's pretty good. They freakin played in Woodstock! and so many underground places. They are amazing, and probably deserves this more than any other band i know. :]

Posted by hehe on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 00:28am

omfg. why is everyone going off about green day on a website!? clearly this is for the people who love green day. wtf yall need to get over yourselves, seriously. This is ridiculous. Fighting over the internet is about as stupid as being in the olympics. if you win, you're still retarded.

but anyways, yes, Green Day so deserves this.
and i agree with the guy going off on Kendal.

you people should study on their history a little bit more before you try to talk shit.

Posted by Hailey on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 00:42am

"they have so many influences, and are only second to pearl jam when it comes to having so many influences."-hehe

I assume you mean followers whom they influenced, and if so, no. Even Pearl Jam's huge following isn't as big as, say, The Beatles.

"clearly this is for the people who love green day."-Hailey

Um, no. No it is not, and you're very dense for thinking so. It's for discussion, meaning people who happen to disagree with you also have the right to speak and make points.

"Fighting over the internet is about as stupid as being in the olympics. if you win, you're still retarded."-Hailley

This was dumb the first two hundred times I heard it, but you just added a new dash of stupidity. It's the Special Olympics, not just the Olympics (and anyway, the joke never worked since not everyone in the Special Olympics is retarded). I hope your simple brain can appreciate the irony. Retard.

Posted by William on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 07:15am

wow william your still on here talking shit about green day? you really need to get a life. if these people like green day then let them. it must be really hard for you to not say anything about someones favorite band. out of curiosity, who is your favorite band? actually i dont care, stop being immature about all of this and get a life

Posted by cody leach on Monday, 06.4.07 @ 05:56am

Have you been held back or something? None, and I mean NONE, of my above post is even in the slightest bit "talking shit about Green Day." The only thing I really said about Green Day at all was that they aren't the second-most influential band, and also that Pearl Jam is not the first. Not even close to an insult.

You need to spend more time reading and less time murdering brain cells with shitty music.

Posted by William on Monday, 06.4.07 @ 10:42am

They have some chances but sory they are not the greatest band ever.They are hardly a good band.But we must admit that they are successfull and that they could be considered. I mean they are not ridiculous compared to the worst bands that are in

Posted by roméo on Monday, 06.4.07 @ 11:12am

green day never really cared how many albums they sold. their mainstreem success was because everyone bought their albums and liked them. not because they are sellouts who don't care about anything but money.

Posted by sydney on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 09:28am

If they didn't care about money, they wouldn't have sued their old label out of business.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 10:41am

Green Day is a band that will be a big dispute. As a follower for a while, I say they should get in, but I will be brought down by my fellow old Green Day followers that they should get in for American Idiot, not Dookie. Don't get me wrong, Dookie, Insomniac, and Nimrod were great albums, and Warning showed there acoustic skill. But they wouldn't have gotten in with just that. American Idiot showed how versitile and mature they've become. Even early on, all three are very knowledgable and Billy Joe is very strong in his opinions and thoughts. Impact alone would help them get in. They are not as deserving as say a RHCP or Oasis, but they do deserve to be in. Just let Nirvana and Pearl Jam in first please.

Posted by Holty on Friday, 06.22.07 @ 18:08pm

The only thing I have to say about greenday is no, they are not creative. I don't care if they were anywhere near influential, they're just not creative.

Posted by Darkmagic410 on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 09:27am

The Hall has already inducted most of the Punk pioneers. The Ramones, The Clash, and The Sex Pistols.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 13:54pm

Yes!
and even if you don't like Green Day, you should at least recognize their talent. They are important in the actual punk scene, and there's no doubt about it. Someone said that all their albums sound the same, that's not true. Listen to 1039/SOSH and then listen to Warning, you'll see what I'm talking about. Everybody has your own opinion, but please respect those who like the band...

Posted by Gaby on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 14:37pm

"Yes!
and even if you don't like Green Day, you should at least recognize their talent."-Gaby

If you're referring to songwriting talent, that might be an argument, but don't just say "talent" because most people automatically assume you're referring to instrumental talent, with which they're not quite overflowing.

"They are important in the actual punk scene, and there's no doubt about it."-Gaby

They might be important to pop-punk, but not "the punk scene." As has been said, there is more than one punk scene and while they are slightly interconnected, they are also distinct.

Posted by William on Saturday, 06.23.07 @ 21:35pm

I totally agree with you William! I like Green Day, but they are not my favourite band.. I think they deserve to be in.. =D

Posted by Becky on Sunday, 06.24.07 @ 02:21am

GREEN DAY IS THE BEST BAND EVER
THEY WILL BE ON THE HALL OF FAME
'CAUSE THEY ARE THE BEST

Posted by Maca on Sunday, 06.24.07 @ 12:34pm

It is just SO FUCKING COOL to rip on Green Day! I must too!

Oh wait, I don't much give a rats ass about being cool. Cool!

Posted by Starr on Sunday, 06.24.07 @ 13:15pm

yeah!! yeah!! yeah!!
green day is the biggest fucking great band in the world!!
they're great !!

Posted by cristhel on Wednesday, 06.27.07 @ 17:10pm

Manga de caretas...q les pasa???Q onda???Vos,que no queres que Green Day este en el RHF,seguramente te la pasas escuchando Mandy Moore.En todo este tiempo demostro ser una banda de la puta madre cerrandole el ojete a muchos de los putos de uds.
Pudranse pedazo de gatos come chipa!!!!!!! Y.......Come On Green Dayyyyyyyyyyy

Posted by Martin on Friday, 06.29.07 @ 05:59am

green day es lo mejor
ke ai en ete puto
mundo ke ai tantas
kagas y violencia
es lo mejor de toos
jajaja
ia kuidence
ojala ganen estos wom
x q son lo mejor

green day in my life

http://www.fotolog.com/x_lokomario_x

Posted by lokomario on Friday, 06.29.07 @ 20:02pm

green day
es lo mejor
es genial
inexplicable
q gane
no





xaooooooo

Posted by izak on Saturday, 06.30.07 @ 08:41am

Visit my Green Day Spanish Site.
www.greendayfod.net

Posted by fod on Sunday, 07.1.07 @ 18:14pm

son los mejores del mundo realmente los admiro y ellos se merecen eso y mucho mas. tienen el respeto de todo el mundo y mas de uno quisiera ser como ellos!!!!!!!! quisiera que vengan a la argentina.
son los mejores sin duda alguna.
alta graciaq, cordoba, argentina....
los amo..
...ro...

Posted by rooo on Monday, 07.2.07 @ 08:16am

Green day es y simpre seran los mejores...
llevan mas de 18 años de trayectoria....tienen mas d 10 diskos...son una banda ejemplar..

los llevo escuchando desd k tnia 10 años ..aora tngo 15.años...y en esos 5 años e aprendido muchas kosas...

e visto todo dsde otro punto d vista...mas maduro...y io kreo k mejor...me enknta esta banda...mi preferida....los AMO...kon too mi koraxon...

me e emocionaddo...reido...y llorado....kuando los eskuxoo....y me gustaria...k por favor ...

GREEN DAY..de oakland california..la banda de billie joe armstrong..mike dirnt...y tré cool...

pudieran venir...a CHILE....

y se podrian dar kuenta...k aki...y en toodos los lados...los keren...mucha gent...k los eskucha d koraxon...komo yo...y millones d prsonas mas...los kieren..aka.....


wenoo...eso es toodo...y ojala k ganen komo 100pre....


xauu..

karlos_14_knd@hotmail.com
www.fotolog.com/krlos_xxx

----------GREEN DAY-----POR SIEMPRE--------------


carlos ignacio zoñez espinoza



KArLiToX...

Posted by KaRliTox on Monday, 07.2.07 @ 14:21pm

greenday es el mejor grupo en el mundo su estilo es unico

Posted by francisco venegas on Tuesday, 07.3.07 @ 09:22am

GREEN DAY si, si , si
Que mas puedo decir de una banda que se ubica en el puesto 7 en llenar un recital con 130 mil personas y no lo digo yo. De una banda con millones de discos vendidos. De una banda de 20 años de trayectoria con 7 discos los cuales 2 son Dookie y American Idiot nada mas y nada menos. Quien no a tarareado Longview, Brain stew,
Hitchin'a ride, bailado minority o gritar BOBD. Tengo 2000 rasones mas pero solo quiero que se reconosca mucho mas a una de las mejores bandas de punk del mundo.
Ho my own...Here we go

Posted by 1039/kerplunk on Tuesday, 07.3.07 @ 13:03pm

yes , i live in Ecuador, i love green day , billie joe is the best , my life is beatiful, thanks God, thanks Green Day. Mi nombre es boris esteban bernal y yo digo uno dos tres cuatro Viva Green Day y vivo en Cuenca Ecuador mi e-mail es b_bernal182@hotmail.com, un orgulloso fan de green day.
Green Day number one , thanks God

Posted by boris on Tuesday, 07.3.07 @ 16:24pm

greenday es muy bkn pueden venir a chile porfaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yaaaaaaaaaaa greenday es lo mas bakan de la tierra

Posted by johnson on Wednesday, 07.4.07 @ 13:56pm

kien mierda se mete en esta pagina y se le okurre votar NO??????????
akso son retarsados??????????????

Posted by aida on Wednesday, 07.4.07 @ 14:33pm

simplemente el mejor grupo de punk rock americano que ha habido en años...green day si sabe hacer musica...y lo mas importante sabe como atraer a la gente a que los oigan...
green day debe estar en el hall rock of fame!
a nadie se le puede ocurrir votar no...
si alguien vota no es ignorante en cuanto a cultura musical!!

Posted by kaura_green_day on Wednesday, 07.4.07 @ 17:42pm

Obviously Green Day must be in the rock hall of fame.
They know to make great music.
They are the best!!!!!
They really change my life, and their music means a lot for a thousands people.
Green Day rocks
Green Day rules
Green Day... my life

Posted by tere_whatsername on Wednesday, 07.4.07 @ 20:17pm

Son mas geniales eioss.!!
they are the champion.. ? ni idea komo se eskribe!

en fin!

Posted by maria paz on Thursday, 07.5.07 @ 17:56pm

Holaa!!
soy de Chilee!

bueno Green day Es Siimplemente lo MAxiimo!!.. de todas formas.. kien puede decirle ke nohh! su musika realmente te atrae..

bno.. Ojala ke vengan luego x aka.!

bezzo

http://_____________________Happy.De.Cool

Posted by >>Happy.TT.ah<< on Thursday, 07.5.07 @ 18:15pm

Green Day es ---<<--**LO MEJOR**-->>---

se merecen eso y mucho más... ellos se merecen lo mejor.

los sigo desde hace 3 años y desde que los escuché por primera vez no puedo dejar de escucharlos.

Quiero que vengan a Chile..-- hace tiempo que no vienen...

greenday_bmt_fran@hotmail.com

fotolog.com/punk_green_day_3

-- y eso po--*

xauuzz*/

Posted by francisca on Sunday, 07.8.07 @ 17:17pm

esta es la mejor banda de la historia!

AMO A GREEN DAY_
y me encanta su estilo, no le importa el que diran,y mas ensima ayudan a este mundo mal governado con actos de caridad
TE AMO BILLIE!

AGUANTE GREEN DAY!
green kizes

http://poliiitha_armstrong

Posted by poliitha_armstrong on Tuesday, 07.10.07 @ 13:24pm

HAY CARAMABA...Where are the spanish Green Day fans coming from all of a sudden?

Also, there's still a few remaining punk pioneers to be getting in, including the Stooges, who've been knocking on the door countless times so their time is coming fast.

Posted by maplejet on Friday, 07.13.07 @ 08:28am

jajaja!
claro k green day se merece su salon de la fama.
incluso ahora se lo merece!
ja!
soy la unica k escribe en español!
jajaja!
gringos culiaos!
jajaja!
los latinos somos mejores k ustedes
viva green day!

Posted by tania on Sunday, 07.15.07 @ 18:06pm

por supuesto que debe entrar, nadie tiene l derecho a decir que no debe entrar ya que ellos no hn escuchado todo el material increible que posee green day (insomniac-nimrod...) ¿como juzgan un paisaje que no conocen?

Posted by angela on Tuesday, 07.17.07 @ 19:33pm

obviamente tiene q estar porque es una d las bandas d punk rock mas grandes d los estados unidoss
son muy grososs amooo esta bandaaa!!!
aguante green dayyy

Posted by nikoramone on Sunday, 07.29.07 @ 12:51pm

Obvio Que DEBE Estar A Contribuido A Muchas Bandas !
A Funcionado Mucho Como Ejemplo ;)
Aguante Green Daaaay ! :D
http://tugreenday2.blogspot.com

Posted by Green Day 2 on Sunday, 07.29.07 @ 14:58pm

Their best album (debatable) Dookie everything else sounds ripped off of it.

Posted by Stephanie on Sunday, 08.12.07 @ 16:35pm

"everyone likes at least one greenday song."

no sorry i think you're talking about The Beatles. Or Oasis.

no they should not but will probably get in

has no one made the realisation that Boulevard is just a fucking Wonderwall rip off

Posted by liam on Thursday, 08.30.07 @ 13:58pm

They will get in but I don't think they deserve it. American Idiot killed it for me.

Posted by Kelsey on Monday, 09.3.07 @ 16:36pm

They'll Totally Get In but American Idoit Sucked!

Posted by SaveTHEanimals on Sunday, 09.16.07 @ 12:23pm

savetheanimals, ive seen you're other comments and they all seem as if theyre 'pop punk', or emo as it is commonly known.

so shove off

Posted by liam on Friday, 09.21.07 @ 15:23pm

They will probably get in because of their popularity, but I don't think they deserve it.

Posted by bluesguyjon on Friday, 09.21.07 @ 19:03pm

definitely deserve to be in, best band around today

Posted by john on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 09:26am

"definitely deserve to be in, best band around today"

get a copy of Employment, listen to it, then think about thats statement

Posted by liam on Sunday, 09.23.07 @ 09:39am

LO MEJORRRR!!!! MATARÍA PORKE VINIERAN A CHILE...

SERIA LO MAXIMOOO!!!!

AGUANTE GREEN DAY!!!

:::WAKE MY UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS:::

Posted by Pitufa77 on Wednesday, 09.26.07 @ 15:55pm

GREEN DAY X SIEMPRE LO MEJOR DE ESTE FUCKING MUNDO!!!!!!!
LOS AMO, CANTAN DEMASIADO BIEN...
KE VENGAN A CHILE...
KE SAKEN CD NUEVO!!!!!!!
LOS ESPERO CON ANSIAS!!!!!!!

PASEN POR MI FLOG..WWW.FOTOLOG.COM/BROKEN_DREAMS5

SALUDOS A TOOOOOODOS LOS FANS DE GD EN CUALKIER PARTE DEL MUNDO

Posted by kmy on Friday, 10.5.07 @ 22:07pm

what. the. fuck.

68% induction chance.

i for one am disgusted.

Posted by liam on Saturday, 10.6.07 @ 10:42am

"ITS pop crap"

Legend has it that there was once a time when punk was not on heavy rotaion on MTV, and pop punk could be a good thing.

The Buzzcocks and The Ramones are awesome bands, so don't go bashing their genre just because you're one of the many (including myself SHOCK) who hate Green Day

Posted by liam on Tuesday, 10.30.07 @ 16:00pm

Of course they'll get in, look how popular they are right now. Do they deserve it? No. Did they do anything to shape punk music? No. Bands getting into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for popularity. That is pathetic.

Posted by Todd on Saturday, 11.3.07 @ 07:42am

fyli

Posted by ytki on Monday, 11.5.07 @ 15:52pm

Yo lo siento pero como soy española escribo en mi idioma y no es porque no sepa hacerlo en ingles,pero para algo es el mas hablado en el mundo,mi voto va para esta gente primero porque me gustan mucho y llevan muchos años dando el callo y creo que este seria un mas que "merecido" reconocimiento a todo ese tiempo de locuras y buena musica que nos han entregado y despues porque tengo un gran amigo que si GREEN DAY ingresase seria la persona massssss feliz del mundo,yo creo que hasta mas que ellos,jajaja.un saludo desde españa.

Posted by def on Sunday, 11.25.07 @ 03:53am

yeah!! they will need to get inducted!! influence?? Green Day are a very big influece on many many contemporary bands!! and their music and meanings makes a difference in the life of a lot of people (includes me)... but i guees the essential album of Green Day is Dookie, i'd like American Idiot, it's an amazing album by the way, but Dookie make a change in the 90's music scene, and start the Punk Revival Movement along The Offspring's Smash, but of course, i'm very happy for the possible induction of my favorite band eva!! and i don't care what of their albums are the essential one.... LONG LIVE GREEN DAY!!! thnx def for the vote hahaha love ya!!

Posted by maul on Sunday, 11.25.07 @ 04:16am

Love em or hate em...
Yes without a doubt will be in. first ballot.
I will be the first to admit, I am a big Green Day fan, but I can understand why people don't like them, I mean, they did (accidently) kill punk rock. I personally don't blame them for all the bands that followed them who suck. But before you hate them for being "posers" listen to Kerplunk, Dookie, and Insomniac. You will see that pop-punk can indeed be real punk. Sure they haven't been a real punk band in 10 years, but they keep making music that inspires people. I just hope they don't COMPLETELY turn emo.

Posted by Owen on Sunday, 12.9.07 @ 23:42pm

"I mean, they did (accidently) kill punk rock"

Despite the fact that it isn't at all possible for one act to "kill", and the fact that it was never accidental as they were an entirely corporate band from the off; they were not the only shite pop punk band of the 90s.

"But before you hate them for being "posers" listen to Kerplunk, Dookie, and Insomniac."

Already have. And I'm not impressed. I'm even less impressed when I think of the Buzzcocks and the Ramones.

"Sure they haven't been a real punk band in 10 years"

They haven't been a punk band PERIOD

"I just hope they don't COMPLETELY turn emo."

Well, unless they've been listening to nothing but Fugazi and Embrace whilst recording the new 'record', there's little chance of that.

Posted by liam on Monday, 12.10.07 @ 11:48am

yes no doubt about it green day will get it...there the best band of the last 20 years

Posted by john on Monday, 12.24.07 @ 18:33pm

If Green Day only did American Idiot, that alone would put them in the HOF. The album was a well thought out attempt at opening the country's as well as world's eyes to the injustice of the Bush administration.

Posted by Marc on Friday, 01.18.08 @ 22:40pm

That album was politics for simpletons, geared toward kids too young to vote. It was a joke.

Posted by William on Saturday, 01.19.08 @ 03:45am

Even simpletons need to know the truth. Wouldn't you think? And the kids who were too young to vote then are the kids who will be voting this year. Therefore, isn't it possible that American Idiot served a purpose in this area?

Getting away from politics, the album did have some pretty good hooks and decent melodies.

Posted by Eric on Saturday, 01.19.08 @ 08:10am

Green Day will get into the RRHL easily.In 2014 it'll be them and Nirvana that going in BABY!!!!

Posted by john on Friday, 02.1.08 @ 23:14pm

Green day was good in the 90s with dookie and their other albums but now they reduced themselves to commercial shit.If they are so punk rock wtf is blvd. of broken dreams? I believe that only tre and mike have the real talent in the band while armstrong churns out the same old pop guitar riffs and commercial lyrics.If they get in thats just not fair to every punk fan and every music fan cause we know they dont deserve it

Posted by bryan on Saturday, 03.15.08 @ 08:26am

Green day wll never be in the hall of fame NEVER!!!

Posted by someone on Friday, 03.28.08 @ 08:10am

LA MEJOR BANDA DEL MUNDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SON LOS MEJORES, LOS UNICOS...
SON TODO PARA MÍ =)=)=)
LOS AMO CHICOS!!!!!
Y SAKEN DISCO NUEVO!!!!!
LOS AMO!!!!!!! AMO SU MÚSICA!!!!!

GREEN DAY FOR ALWAYS!!!

Posted by KMY on Friday, 04.11.08 @ 18:04pm

I LOVE GREEN DAY AN THEY WILL BE INDUCTED!!!EASILY!!!

Posted by chris diefenderfer on Thursday, 04.17.08 @ 15:36pm

ofcourse they shud b inducted they rock!!!!

Posted by Ash on Saturday, 05.3.08 @ 23:24pm

Ughh, I really don't want to post here, but let me give you a few examples of bands that are more deserving.

Talent (instruments): Metallica, Blue Oyster Cult, Megadeth, Return to Forever (Jazz Fusion, intrumentally superior to almost any rock), Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Yngwie Malmsteen, Slayer, Anthrax, Pantera, Michael Angelo Batio, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Alice Cooper, Radiohead, and many, many more that I'm probably forgetting.

Influence: all of the above...

Posted by Steve on Wednesday, 06.25.08 @ 15:14pm

Since when are Malmsteen and Batio more influential than Green Day?

Posted by William on Wednesday, 06.25.08 @ 19:48pm

Malmsteen and Batio...uh...play fast??? Oh yeah, and Malmsteen "releases the fury" on flight attendants!!

Posted by Gatarzan on Wednesday, 06.25.08 @ 20:03pm

green day might be arrogant and lack talent... but their songwriting skills are very good and have consistently released hits throughout the years despite getting older. they will be inducted, whether you like it or not.

Posted by coleman on Saturday, 06.28.08 @ 10:33am

Even If you dont like green day,
you know who they are. They've impacted you whether you like it or not.

Therefore,
They get in.

Posted by E on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 12:04pm

"So there we are fending off all that and it pisses me off that years later a wank outfit like Green Day hop in and nick all that and attach it to themselves. They didn't earn their wings to do that and if they were true punk they wouldn't look anything like they do"--Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols

There GD fans. Suck on the words of a true punk legend.

Posted by Tom on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 12:28pm

I wouldn't use Lydon as an example for why Green Day shouldn't get into the Hall.

"a wank outfit like Green Day hop in and nick all that and attach it to themselves"

When one considers that the Stooges, the N.Y. Dolls, and the Ramones all had albums out before the Pistols, that statement rings slightly hollow.

"They didn't earn their wings to do that"

Unlike the Pistols, who in the early days barged onto stages and stole time from other bands w/out asking. I don't believe any of those bands would say that they deserved that time.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 15:50pm

Punk is disorganized and chaotic. There probably isn't anything more punk than kicking a band off the stage in the middle of their performance, so that argument goes away.

As for saying that several bands came before the Pistols, so what? Are you gonna sit there and tell me that SP wasn't key to breaking punk in England and basically stole everything from earlier artists and tried to pass it off as their own. Cause I don't think that will fly.

Posted by Tom on Thursday, 07.10.08 @ 18:27pm

For Lydon to yell and complain that Green Day stole his gimmick is ridiculous, when you consider the amount of theft that has run through the history of rock & roll.

The problem here is that you don't bother to clarify just what Lydon was referring to when he states: "so there we are fending off all that"

Is he speaking of the backlash they received? Cause if that's the case then Green Day is off the hook. There was never any social or political backlash to anything Green Day was doing, and to use a politicized statement out of context for artistic justification is wrong.

As for the Pistols starting punk off in England, I'll just say the N.Y. Doll's got there first, and the Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren handled them around 74-75 I believe, before he ever got to the Pistols.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 07.11.08 @ 16:30pm

Damned Damned Damned came out a good while before Never Mind the Bollocks. Not trying to contradict the fact that the Sex Pistols were an important group at all, but I thought I'd point that out.

Posted by Liam on Friday, 07.11.08 @ 16:36pm

He was referring to battling the authorities. (http://www.gigwise.com/news.asp?contentid=13310)

As for "stealing" artists work, that is completely different from flatly pretending to be something that your not. Good artists borrow great artists steal, remember? SPs influence and scope is pretty undeniable, though obviously they were not the first band to emerge on the scene, just the most prominent and well-remembered.

What he mainly accuses them (and I agree with regardless of anything else he did) of basically being a cheap commercialized band that acts as though they're a hardcore bunch of twenty-somethings with an axe to grind or something.

Posted by Tom on Friday, 07.11.08 @ 20:32pm

^^^^^
Thanks to the above two posts.

I do agree the Pistols were both prominent and well remembered.

As it is, I do believe that Green Day will make it in to the Hall. The obvious points have been stated & re-stated above, but one point that has not been mentioned has to do w/ what I already noted in terms of social/political. It had nothing to do w/ that, and it was all cultural. Oddly enough, when you mentioned the notion of them being a "cheap, commercialized band that... w/an axe to grind" (pardon my paraphrasing) you may have hit the nail on the head.

The same argument that the SP used in 77 could easily be applied to GD in 94. Lydon had an axe to grind w/ the way music was, and GD easily had the same point here in the US in their time. Whenever anyone talks about alternative it's almost always in cultural terms. There may be a little social talk, but certainly nothing political. If you wish to look at them as an act that helped push a cultural upheaval forward, then GD fits the bill, along w/ many more. I take nothing away from the SP. If & when the boys in the back room come to vote on GD however, and they need some lofty sense of "extra meaning" however, this might be the way they go.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.12.08 @ 06:44am

What the hell did Green Day do to help a "cultural upheaval"? I always thought all they did was write bullshit, generic pop-punk songs for snot-nosed, tasteless teenagers to bop around to...

Posted by Liam on Saturday, 07.12.08 @ 07:04am

You'll note that I stated they were "an" act - meaning one of many - to assist in a cultural upheaval. By this I mean the changes that occured some 15 yrs. or so, mostly w/in the US music industry. MTV's change to what would then have been termed "alternative" rock videos (before they started w/ no videos), the change in radio format from all "classic rock" 60's and 70's to the modern 70's/80's/90's/00's harder-edged rock. As I noted, when it comes to these things the voting folks love to toss this stuff into the mix.

As for "generic" let me just say that the punk ethos fits here perfectly:

3 chords + the truth (=) generic songs + the truth

The frightening thing is not when the chords become generic, but when the truth does.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 07.12.08 @ 18:18pm

"I always thought all they did was write bullshit, generic pop-punk songs for snot-nosed, tasteless teenagers to bop around to..."

Well, Liam, isn't that basically what the mainstream rock biz anyway now? lol And if these snot-nosed, tasteless teenagers are a viable enough force to be declared the #1 worst thing to happen to the music industry, seems pretty important to me.

(Just kidding, of course, please don't take those comments seriously. Just having some late night fun)

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 07.12.08 @ 22:43pm

I'm frankly surprised at the comments made by posters who don't think Green Day will get in (wish I could smoke what you've got ;-) ).

Anyway, there's no doubt that they'll get in & justifiably so. Their last album 'American Idiot' was their best & 'Jesus of Suburbia' is the best song they've ever done (and they've done some pretty damn good songs).

I predict they'll go in on the 1st ballot and if not that year then the next.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 07.17.08 @ 11:35am

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Posted by scania on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 20:10pm

Green Day and nirvana are the 2 bands getting in in 2014 all the other contenders arent even close to as good as those 2

Posted by tom on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 07:14am

Dookie alone should guarantee they get in eventually.

Posted by Kevin on Monday, 08.25.08 @ 23:16pm

Obvio que Green Day se merece su salon de la fama ellos son lo mejor de lo mejor los amo y los admiro mucho. Incluso ya deberian tenerlo ¿porque esperar tanto? son la mejor banda de toda la vida --->LOS AMO<---

Viva Green Day

Posted by Daniela on Sunday, 08.31.08 @ 12:26pm

Green Day goes right along with the sex pistols, Ramones,and the Clash as one of the greatest if not THE greatest pop/punk band ever.

Posted by mark on Tuesday, 09.9.08 @ 16:43pm

Love them or hate them, you must respect them. If Green Day hadn't existed in the early 90's in the Alt. Rock boom, we wouldn't have punk on the radio today. Whether or not you like the "punk" out today or not, it would be nowhere without Green Day, a band who fully revived a genre.

Posted by Jude on Wednesday, 09.10.08 @ 17:32pm

no, just no. not innovative or original in any form. not alot of bands these days are screaming out how much they were influenced by green day.

Posted by argh on Thursday, 09.11.08 @ 11:55am

Green Day is only popular ffrom the posers who wear those American Idiot shirts. Shoplifter completly sucks and I think Green Day is going emo because no one likes them anymore (ecpept the posers). There is a kid in my school named Aidan Sobina who came up to me when I was wearing a Led Zeppelin shirt and said quote "Led Zeppelin Sucks. Green Day is awesome". Unquote. I only like Green Day when they are in the U.K. and Billy Joe dresses up like a fool.

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 10.5.08 @ 07:10am

Green Day will get inducted whether you like it or not.

The end

Posted by Quick and Dirty on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 13:52pm

Greenday is a suckess band.They should not go in

Posted by David on Tuesday, 10.14.08 @ 18:03pm

Green Day definitley deserves a spot in the Rock n roll hall of fame...They've sold over 60 million albums worldwide!!! They've also won a number of grammy's for best alternative album (dookie) best song (boulevard of broken dreams) and best rock album (american idiot)

Posted by vic on Tuesday, 10.14.08 @ 18:10pm

No way vic,WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO GO IN,I so agree with Mike.

And Quick and Dirty Green Day Should not go in they do not have a chance in there life,If you like it or not

THE END

Posted by David on Wednesday, 10.15.08 @ 17:34pm

QUOTE"GREEN DAY IS AWESOME"UNQUOTE







- Aidan Sobina Poser

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 10.16.08 @ 14:26pm

I'm gonna name all the bands better then Green Day!


AC/DC
Led Zeppelin
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
ZZ Top
Paul McCartney and Wings
Guns N' Roses
Yes
Grateful Dead
The Police
The Skyliners
Aerosmith
Yardbirds
Cheap Trick
Slash's Snakepit
Rolling Stones
The Beatles
The Shins
Velvet Revolver
Rage Aganist The Machine
Slayer
the list goes on and on

Posted by Mike on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 06:23am

Just curious Mike, what exactly makes them "better" then Green Day? Because your list sounds to me like it's just your personal opinion. I can name dozens of bands I find better then Green Day. However, some of the bands you mentioned are worse than Green Day ( who I don't find that bad) namely Slayer and Slash's Snakepit

Posted by Mr. Octagon on Friday, 11.7.08 @ 17:14pm

Mike, that list seems awfully short. A list of band better than Green Day would probably have ten million or so entries. You'd save yourself some time by listing the few bands who aren't better than them.

Posted by Randy on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 02:28am

I have to disagree w/the posts that say Green Day aren't worthy of the Hall. Like lots of folks I picked up "Dookie" in 1994. (sounds pretty nasty, doesn't it?!) I've listened to a lot of their stuff over the radio & then the Internet over time. Several years ago when Tower Records was going down the drain, I lined up like everybody else to get the good deals, and one thing I found was the greatest hits package they put out (pretty much everything except the "American Idiot" album). There is some actual diversity in their work, for anyone who thinks it's just 3 chords/3 minutes for everything. Certainly the songs "Time Of Your Life", "Minority", and "Warning" all have a different feel than what was on "Dookie".

"Amercian Idiot" has songs on there that stretch far beyond 3 minutes, and the whole thing's supposed to be a concept album of some kind. It's easy to bash it as politics-lite, but it did kickstart a resurgence in political themes in rock music.

In addition, I hear everyone say Green Day has "gone emo" in an attempt to save their butts. Just how bad is this? Is it any worse than the Rolling Stones going glam in the mid-70's, or disco in the late 70's? Go find a Deadhead & ask him to justify "Shakedown Street", & I bet I could find a Green Day fan w/the same logic for "Amer. Idiot".

I say yes to them.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 06:11am

Not supporting Green Day for the Hall is pretty absurd...they had a near Hall Of Fame career after the first four albums while the singles from Nimrod, Warning & American Idiot have put them well over the line.

Posted by Casper on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 06:32am

Once again, here goes an opinion from someone a little older...I just never got the whole Green Day thing. I guess they're an okay group, and I'm not of a mind to put anyone down who creates decent music. So, with that in mind, I kinda think they're pretty ordinary, not a group that exactly set the world on fire. I classify them with a lot of artists who I consider "okay, but you can't induct everyone". My first criteria for that catagory is "they remind me of a lot of other groups before them", which means they have the perpetuation of the artform down, but they're a little lacking in innovation and influence (the first group I thought of when I first heard them was the Ramones, which is certainly no cut against them).

There have been scores of artists who have just a bit more influence and innovation who came before them who aren't in the HOF. But there's also a lot of artists who are inducted who have no business whatsoever in there...only the nominating committee knows why...the masses surely don't. Cheesecrop, it kind of goes back to the discussions we've had about Nirvana, so I'm certainly not going to say my point of view is correct, but simply my opinion...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 11.8.08 @ 07:08am

Okay Randy, I'll continue.



Pink Floyd
Sex Pistols
Pearl Jam
Rush
Kiss
Def Lepard
Black Sabbath
Nine Inch Nails
Buckethead (he's solo but I'm not listing GN'R again)
Warrant
Nazerath
Metallica
The Stooges
Cream
Creed
U2
Cinderella
White Lions
Dire Straits
Iced Earth
Twisted Sister
L.A. Guns
Poison
Hollywood Roses







Your right Randy... it takes too much time.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @ 09:14am

There are some really awful bands in that list. Green Day might not be the best band in the world, but they are sure as hell better than Creed! I mean... Creed?! Come on! I rather listen to Modern Talking. The list of bands worse than Creed is a really short one. Let's try:

Nickelback

Well, that's it. Man that's a short list.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @ 09:46am

Green Day Should Get In Because:

INFLUANCE
I Wouldn't Exactley Be Proud of Who They Have Influanced (Blink-182, Avril Lavigne, ect.) But Still...

TIMELESS AWSOME TUNAGE
Seriousley, They Got a Whole Generation Humming American Idiot

HARD ROCKIN' SHOWS
Seariosley, Youtube This Stuff, Man.

P.S. Randy, Do You Just Sit Around And Listen To Guitar Hero All Day. Get A Life.

Posted by Tyson on Tuesday, 12.23.08 @ 09:32am

Yes, Green Day should get in the HOF. Dude, have you noticed how many bands sound like Green Day now a days? Do you want me to list them?

- Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Blink 182, Saosin, Panic! at the disco, All American Rejects. Every other "Pop Punk" band EVER.

Sure, none of these bands are worth anything. But So? They influenced an entire generation of Pop Punkers, and all of them are just riding the success of "Dookie" and "American Idiot". Sorry, But Green Day will get in.

Posted by Calzone on Sunday, 01.11.09 @ 12:02pm

Calzone...no offense intended, but you might want to make a list of bands who Green Day sound like who predated them. I think this is what might make it hard for them to be inducted. The "Rock & Roll Power Trio" concept has been around in one form or another since Johnny Burnette & the Rock & Roll Trio (who, by the way, should've been inducted by now, I would think), and from what I've heard of them, it's a case of "been there, done that". Consider the fact that I'm about as old as Rock, so our perspective might be a little different...which is cool! You always have some good posts...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 01.11.09 @ 12:14pm

Calzone, actually, those bands hardly sound like GD. Many of those bands lack a lot of qualities that GD has. First off, Mike Dirnt has noticeable bass riffs...FOB, AAR, PATD, all do not have songs similar to Dirnt's style. Also, GD's sound really vastly differs to them...in fact on American Idiot, their most popular song Boulevard of Broken Dream actually sounds more like post-grunge of Seether rather than pop punk of Fall Out Boy.

Posted by maplejet on Monday, 01.26.09 @ 10:49am

im sick of hearing the cliche' "oh greenday shouldn't be allowed in because they turned emo they only have three chords bleh blah bleh blah bleh blah BLEH BLAH"

do you people realize how difficult it is to mold a STYLE !?!?
Green Day sure had a style.
I always look for style, rather than skill.

everyone and anyone can play sloppy pointless quantity-over-quality generic guitar solos (metallica) that have no thought put into them.

Not to mention, Billie-joe reached a WAY more diverse audience than any other punk band. From ages 5 to 70, poor to rich, christain to jew, people love Green Day

Posted by word on Friday, 01.30.09 @ 00:31am

im sick of hearing the cliche' "oh greenday shouldn't be allowed in because they turned emo they only have three chords bleh blah bleh blah bleh blah BLEH BLAH"
Posted by word on Friday, 01.30.09 @ 00:31am


That is not why ..THEY ARE POLITICALLY CORRECT BORING!!

Posted by LOVEAND PEACE on Friday, 01.30.09 @ 00:40am

They should make it, there are a lot of haters out there because of their simple riffs. Its not about talent, its about their influence and the sound of their music. And their kind of stage presence is hard to find. I think without American Idiot album, there would be more percent of yes votes. That album drew a lot of pop culture attention and a lot of people disliked them because of the message.

Posted by Pete on Sunday, 02.1.09 @ 12:23pm

They'll make it due to influence and success alone. They are arguably the fourth biggest punk band of all time (other than the three that are already in), and plenty of people would (foolishly) declare them number one.

They're nothing spectacular (but are decent enough for hall standards), but they will one day have multiple tracks on 'Classic Rock' radio stations worldwide nonetheless

I say 'sure, no reason not to.'
The Hall says 'yes, more visitors'

Posted by Paul Kagebein on Thursday, 02.5.09 @ 15:00pm

"They'll make it due to influence"

What influence?

"They are arguably the fourth biggest punk band of all time"

Errr maybe, but that doesn't mean to say they're anywhere near the best. They're bottom-rung in terms of quality.

Posted by Jack H. on Thursday, 02.5.09 @ 15:06pm

Based on your replies to me, we have different definitions of the word 'influence'... but it's the Hall's definition that counts.
Trust me, I agree with most of your comments, I just don't seem to be making my opinions very clear to you. Note i said, 'They're nothing spectacular', and I certainly agree they're nowhere near the best.
Regardless, Green Day shall make it in...

Posted by Paul Kagebein on Thursday, 02.5.09 @ 15:14pm

yo david,WHAT THE HELL IS WORNG WITH YOU?!?!?! You to ian! But mike thank you for listing Black Sabbath and Twisted Sister. and sure Led Zeppelin
has a cuple good songs. but Led Zeppelin is not beter than Green Day!

Posted by aidan on Wednesday, 02.18.09 @ 12:53pm

green day rocks you shold so put them in

Posted by matt naeher on Monday, 03.2.09 @ 10:05am

Green Day are eligible enough for the hall of fame
because
1) the were inspirations for modern bands like my chemical romance, sum 41 etc.
2) the punk revival thing is somewhere right i mean if green day wouldnt have done it no one would have though they changed it a lot but you cant go on listening to the clash or ramones forever you nedd something new and they did that

3) American idiot really changed green day
no one could have pulled off a punk rock opera the way green day did

and if you can pull off a nine minute song like jesus of suburnia the way green day did then you surely deserve a spot up there

Posted by Punkiseverything on Friday, 03.13.09 @ 12:30pm

Yeah, but they're punk, not rock 'n roll.

Posted by S.R on Tuesday, 03.17.09 @ 17:57pm

lol, no matter what site i go too, rolling stone, hall of fame, fuse, youtube, Green Day are literally everywhere and its about a 70:30 ratio or love to hate. No, they are not as "great" as the clash / ramones, but honestly, they're music is way more talented than the ramones... i might get slaughterd for saying that, but ramones songs do sound the same and have no more than 3/4 chords...with the 21st century breakdown rumors, Green Days influencial style includes Bruce, the beatles and cheap trick now...hopefully more advanced. And for people who say they haven't changed, Listen to Dookie, then Idiot...or Warning for that matter...Green Day are one of the few bands in this millenium that saved rock...if you pick a Rap artist over this 65+ million selling band...then shame on you...Rock N' Roll has failed you.

and aidan...i appreciate your enthusiasm...but don't say Green Day is better than Zeppelin...GD's my fav band yeah...but i am on levels of reality...

Posted by McBain on Thursday, 03.26.09 @ 21:37pm

Dookie was a good album I have to admit but with that and American Idiot is all they have. They pretty much can't make it without anything else.


Let's compare this to I don't know Def Leppard


Pyromania
Hysteria
Adrenalize


Thats pretty good.



They have also been on many soundtracks for movies.



AND American Idiot and Basketcase are Green Day's only memorable songs.




While Def Leppard has:

Photograph
Two Steps Behind
Pour Some Sugar on Me
Rocket
Animal
Love Bites
Bringing On the Heartbreak

Posted by Mike on Friday, 03.27.09 @ 15:30pm

Dookie was a good album I have to admit but with that and American Idiot is all they have. They pretty much can't make it without anything else.


Let's compare this to I don't know Def Leppard

Posted by Mike on Friday, 03.27.09 @ 15:30pm
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Now I'm never gonna knock Def Lep for starters... but I think you might just be underestimating Green Day.

If you're going to talk about songs that are big when it comes to radio airplay (providing you feel this still matters):

Longview
When I come Around
Time of your Life
She

along w/Basketcase & American Idiot are still often heard on radio. I'd also say that the INSOMNIAC album had an effect too. In it's time it was popular, kind of like Def Lep's ADRENALIZE, which I noticed you put down. I think there pretty even, when you look at it a little closer.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 03.28.09 @ 13:56pm

The new album will secure them getting in. Theyre name is too big for them not to get in. Everyone knows who they are, and they make great music. 99.9% chance they get in

Posted by dirk on Thursday, 04.16.09 @ 15:28pm

Has anyone heard the NEW single? BTW, Green Day WILL definitely get into the hall of fame!!!!!!!!!

Posted by GD fan on Saturday, 04.18.09 @ 14:17pm

I heard it. Musically it's fine, & it's got a big chorus of sorts, like AMERICAN IDIOT. Only problem is that Armstrong's vocals on the verses are buried under the music itself. You can make claim to a gazillion punk codes all you want, but I'd definitely double-track the vocals at least.

It won't stop me from keeping my ears open to whatever they've got coming down the line, but I hope the singles afterwards have the voclas more up front.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 04.18.09 @ 17:05pm

Green Day brought back punk?? WOW.. I always thought they put a nice pink and green ribbon around it, and turn it into POP PUNK. Only when the Dookie album was released did they start getting air play.. Mind you, Kerplunk is a lot better than the stuff they put out today. Green Day really don't qualify as " punk " anymore, I for one did not see any punk influence on the American Idiot album, maybe that was just me.

Punk Bands far greater than Green Day:
Social Distortion
Rancid
I'll even say MXPX
and NOFX
Zebrahead
Screeching Weasel
The Casualties
Rise Against
Adam and the Ants
Beastie Boys - When they were punk
Billy Talent
I Will even name Blondie
Circle Jerks
Dead Kennedys
Misfits
The Exploited
Operation Ivy
Goldfinger
Patti Smith Group
Pennywise
The Queers
Satanic Surfers

Posted by A.R. on Wednesday, 04.22.09 @ 22:03pm

Green Day brought back punk?? WOW.. I always thought they put a nice pink and green ribbon around it, and turn it into POP PUNK. Only when the Dookie album was released did they start getting air play.. Mind you, Kerplunk is a lot better than the stuff they put out today. Green Day really don't qualify as " punk " anymore, I for one did not see any punk influence on the American Idiot album, maybe that was just me.

Posted by A.R. on Wednesday, 04.22.09 @ 22:03pm
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Guess the question I have is, who said the punk of 1994 had to sound like the punk of 1983? Or for that matter the punk of 83 had to sound like the punk of 1976?

The fact that Green Day made it catchier as a sound means just that - they made it easier on the ears. Doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't punk. I do agree w/you on a few of those bands, though.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 04:38am

Green Day are one of the few punk bands, that IMO are considered Pop(ular ) punk. They were played to death on countless radio stations, received by large amounts of listeners or fans. Yes each has their own style of what they consider punk.. Thats like Avril, Spend 100 dollars on a vintage Iron Maiden tee, and call herself punk.. or pierce your cheek with a safety pin, and call yourself punk. In the process of " making it easier on the ears " by the countless play making the top 40 made them popular (Pop) punk. many "punk bands" have never really had the commercial success as Green Day. They are not as radio friendly.

Posted by A.R. on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 10:29am

Hardcore Punk is where it's at.The Washington D.C. based group Minor Threat comes to mind.

Posted by Joe-Skee on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 11:21am

A.R., don't tell me you just lumped Patti Smith and Blondie in with the likes of The Exploited and NOFX...

Green Day didn't ruin punk rock because there was simply nothing left to "ruin". Punk after CBGBs and the first wave English groups means nothing. All of the legitimate artists became post punk and the foundation for later alternative and indie rock (Public Image Ltd., Gang of Four, The Fall, Joy Division/New Order, Sonic Youth, Black Flag, Minutemen, Husker Du, etc.)

The "more punk" argument is meaningless because the punk genre has no worth today. At least Green Day had pop smarts. I'll take a band that can write nearly Costello worthy pop songs over any of that generic modern punk sludge.

Posted by Elastic Man on Thursday, 04.23.09 @ 23:29pm

What I said was, Re-read it, Bands far greater than Green Day. Blondie, Patti Smith, NOFX, and the Exploited are far better than Green Day. And Actually PIL is more rock than anything. To my knowledge, New Order, Joy Division, and I will throw in Bauhaus, were new wave. With the somewhat exception of Bauhaus.. New wave / Dark Wave. WHICH some of Blondie can be considered New Wave, However, They were a legit punk band.
Blondie for example, has had far more impact on the punk scene. Look at the sales of "Parallel Lines" alone, 6 of the album tracks were singles, with no commercial success compared to the likes of today.
It's ranked 18th in the greatest albums of all time. Mind you I leave out Rolling Stone.

And that is what the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is turning into.. Pop Smarts. One huge popularity contest.Bands that have NO commercial success have no chance.. no matter how many albums, or how much impact or influence they dished out. They will never make it in.

Posted by A.R. on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 03:58am

"And that is what the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is turning into.. Pop Smarts. One huge popularity contest.Bands that have NO commercial success have no chance.. no matter how many albums, or how much impact or influence they dished out. They will never make it in."

*cough*Velvet Underground*cough*

The funny thing is, I heard people saying the exact opposite. You should check out the boards for acts like KISS, Journey, Chicago. People there are complaining that the HoF isn't listening to the public enough, that sales, longevity and a large fanbase should be among the criteria, even that the inductees should be chosen by the public. You can't both be right.

In my opinion, it really doesn't matter if Green Day was a good punk band, (emphasis on punk). That kind of stuff probably would matter for a hypothetical Punk Hall of Fame, which is kind of an oxymoron. I don't care if they fit neatly in some genre or not. The question should be: were they important for the history of rock 'n roll? I say yes. Not because they are popular, but because when they became popular, they brought punk (back?) in the mainstream, and thus brought punk bands like NOFX, Rancid, even Bad Religion in the spotlight, solidifying their cult following. Many of the larger genres of the last decade, third wave ska, skatepunk, emo, hardcore punk, etc. owe their success to Green Day. If that's not impact, I don't know what is.

Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 04:43am

A.R. said: 'And that is what the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is turning into.. Pop Smarts. One huge popularity contest.Bands that have NO commercial success have no chance.'

Yes, that's why Three Dog Night, Styx, ELO, The Cars, the Doobie brothers, Chicago, ABBA, etc. are in the Hall. They couldn't keep them out due to all their commercial success (heh).

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 06:17am

Will KISS ever be in? who knows. I am not a fan of KISS..But when you think about it, KISS was plastered everywhere.KISS Dolls, KISS pinball Games, KISS this KISS that, They were and are Over rated. KISS got their influence from ( 2 bands that come off the top of my head ) Alice Cooper and Black Sabbath. Ok, NOW you have to look at what they contributed into rock and roll, Other than Dolls, Pinball machine games, Cards, Movies, the list with KISS is endless.. the contribution is very small.. They may have inspired many, but those that the inspired in the 70's pre say, were KISS wanna-bees. KiSS sold out early in the game..

The Commercial success of then, Paul in KY is far different than the likes of today, The Bands you named per say for example, were not plastered everywhere. Put ABBA up with Madonna for example..How much was Madonna sold to us from her first single? A LOT.. we had the creation of MTV.. Where as Abba had to rely on Live televised Preformaces.. The only Video ( and when I say video I mean MTV ) I can recall seeing of Abba is " When All Is Said and Done ". In fact If I remember that was their LAST single. Now put ELO up with the likes of the Beatles.. both were popular, however, The Beatles had a far more impact. More people became successful musicians because of the Beatles, The influence is endless and impact with the Beatles.

Posted by A. R. on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 12:03pm

A.R. thank you for responding. Understand your points on the sophisticated hype machine of last 20 years, MTV, etc. Just about all the bands I listed predate that era. They all were, however, hugely popular back in their heyday. None were as popular as the Beatles, but how may acts have been that popular?

I do think all were 'popular enough' to merit inclusion if the popularity you wrote about was a major factor in the minds of the Hall voters. I've come to the conclusion that 'excessive' popularity can be a negative to those voters.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 12:36pm

Conclusion wise, I think that is how the hall works..esp in recent years..Take Metallica for example, their MTV age was with the " And Justice for All " album.. there are no actual videos that predate that album.They were introduced into a larger audience.positive or negative. Then came the " Black Album " which was more radio friendly, they made it into the top 40.. Battling it out with who can remember for top video spot on MTV. Their album sales went through the roof. Mind you.. the band received practically NO radio play until the black album. NOW If they were not introduced into the " mainstream " with MTV.. would they even really be considered?

And I forgot to mention this, "The funny thing is, I heard people saying the exact opposite. You should check out the boards for acts like KISS, Journey, Chicago. People there are complaining that the HoF isn't listening to the public enough, that sales, longevity and a large fanbase should be among the criteria, even that the inductees should be chosen by the public. You can't both be right."

Well How many times have KISS done their farewell tour? How many times have they said they were hanging up the boots? and how many times they went right back?
What does album sales have to do with anything, That does not make the music. the music, should be influencial, make a impact.

Posted by A.R. on Friday, 04.24.09 @ 13:19pm

"What I said was, Re-read it, Bands far greater than Green Day."

No confusion with your intentions but those were all artists associated with "punk" in some way. My view is that the modern punk genre, which goes back to the bands like the Exploited who rose because of early punk but missed the point entirely, is bankrupt. So most of those types of bands fall short (or were never in the race to begin with.)

"Blondie, Patti Smith, are far better than Green Day."

For sure.

"NOFX, and the Exploited are far better than Green Day."

Eh...not really.

My defense of Green Day has nothing to do with how much I like them. I could care less, but I'll take a band that can craft a song like Warning-era Green Day could over simplistic political diatribes set to generic skater music (NOFX) and silly mohawk purveyors (The Exploited). I'm aware Green Day has fallen into this somewhat but my support of them is in their ability to create decent pop-rock.

"And Actually PIL is more rock than anything."

Have you ever heard the first three albums...? That's difficult stuff for most people to swallow and the very definition of what post-punk was.

"To my knowledge, New Order, Joy Division, and I will throw in Bauhaus, were new wave."

New Wave is a misunderstood catch all term thrown around by journalists. It could mean just the original CBGB bands (Ramones, Talking Heads, Television, Richard Hell, Blondie, Patti Smith, etc. I favor this because of its similarity to the film movement French New Wave.) It could mean post power pop stuff like The Knack and The Cars. It could mean synthpop or new romantic stuff. It can entail everything from CBGB to the duo Erasure (but it shouldn't...that broadness isn't what sub-labels are generally for). Joy Division/New Order and Bauhaus are post-punk bands. New Order is mis-labeled as synthpop, and thus new wave, because they used synthesizers but they actually worked in a different field (go over to the Depeche Mode page and read my posts about them near the bottom for detailed info. They were a key band in the progression of this music.) Post-punk is music immediately after punk rock that shows the influence of krautrock, avant-garde music, funk, and disco music/electronic dance music (the latter of which synthpop isn't a descendant of but did absorb its ideas later.) Most of the people involved with first generation punk (Sex Pistols, The Damned, Buzzcocks) became post-punk or at least developed their music parallel to it (The Clash.) Post-punk's musical ideas became "alternative" and "indie" music in America and Britain respectively by the mid 80s.

The following is a simple encapsulation of the artistic bloodline 1st generation punk is a part of by generation: (It's more complex than this but the basic idea is true.)

The Velvet Underground (avant-garde/garage rock/the beginning) > Bowie/Stooges/Roxy Music/New York Dolls (glam rock/art rock) > Can/Neu/Kraftwerk (krautrock) > Ramones/Talking Heads/Patti Smith/Sex Pistols/The Clash (1st generation punk) > Joy Division/New Order/The Fall/Gang of Four (post punk) > Sonic Youth/Black Flag/Husker Du/REM/Fugazi (no wave/early hardcore/early alternative/post hardcore) > My Bloody Valentine/Nirvana/Pavement/Stone Roses (Noise/modern indie rock/madchester) > and on and on and on.

My Bloody Valentine, Nirvana, and Pavement can all be traced back directly to the Velvet Underground via the preceding generations. Groups like NOFX and The Exploited are illegitimate because they are not meshed in with these artists in this way. I encourage you to read up on this stuff, it's where most of the important activity in the development of rock music post-60s has occurred.

"With the somewhat exception of Bauhaus.. New wave / Dark Wave. WHICH some of Blondie can be considered New Wave, However, They were a legit punk band.
Blondie for example, has had far more impact on the punk scene. Look at the sales of "Parallel Lines" alone, 6 of the album tracks were singles, with no commercial success compared to the likes of today.
It's ranked 18th in the greatest albums of all time. Mind you I leave out Rolling Stone."

Again, I'm not arguing about Blondie's merits. I agree. I like them.

"And that is what the Rock and Roll hall of Fame is turning into.. Pop Smarts. One huge popularity contest.Bands that have NO commercial success have no chance.. no matter how many albums, or how much impact or influence they dished out. They will never make it in."

There's nothing wrong with pop smarts. The Beatles had pop smarts. The Rolling Stones had pop smarts. The Ramones and Blondie had pop smarts. Nirvana had pop smarts. The Velvet Underground even had pop smarts. Bands that had limited commercial success have made it in (The Velvet Underground, Leonard Cohen, Ramones.) Other important bands at the fringe of success will make it in (Sonic Youth certainly will.) I'm not against the idea of pop music (Green Day.) I am against artists that just dumb down the substance and impact of their fore bearers, leaving nothing but sophomoric, generic music (NOFX.)

Whether or not Green Day gets in is no concern to me. They probably will and I wouldn't mind. Their success has nothing to do with punk and everything to do with their sense of pop songcraft. There's nothing wrong with that.

Sorry, it's probably a rambling post (I'm tired), but I hope my position is clearer.

Posted by Elastic Man on Saturday, 04.25.09 @ 01:00am

They're a really crappy band but they'll get in because of their fame...and because they were mis-credited with bringing punk back during the nineties.

Posted by arglefinkenstein on Saturday, 05.2.09 @ 17:07pm

@arglefinkenstein

Miscredited!?! Alright then, who did make Punk Mainstream in the 1990's. Also, who else do know that consistantly puts out great music like Green Day?

P.S. -- If you think they are a crappy band you are an idiot! they put out great music and they are the best band in the world in the studio and live

Posted by gkhf.kjg;jhh on Tuesday, 05.26.09 @ 12:02pm

Hell yes!!!!!!

Posted by dean on Thursday, 05.28.09 @ 01:54am

I'm a big fan of pre american idiot green day. They should totally get in. They reinvented punk, then came along bands like good charlotte, sum 41, blink 182, and so on. The list goes on. Bottom line, if it wasen't for green day, we wouldn't have the modern punk we have today. I can't credit Green Day for single handily inventing it, but they played a major part (as did the offspring).

Posted by Justin on Monday, 06.29.09 @ 15:55pm

Green Day are locks are for the Hall. Thanks to their last two albums they'll probably get in first ballot come 2014

Posted by questKenneth on Friday, 07.3.09 @ 11:47am

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Posted by sonny on Thursday, 07.23.09 @ 00:39am

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Posted by sonny on Thursday, 07.23.09 @ 00:40am

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Posted by sonny on Thursday, 07.23.09 @ 00:40am

Although I am not in any way a fan of their music post-2000, I have to say that they will get voted in. I hate the ungodly noise coming out of the radio that is Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, All American Rejects, or basically any post-2000 pop-punk trash. However, they were inspired by Green Day and the skate punk they recorded in the 90s was boss.

Posted by YoEefs on Monday, 08.3.09 @ 08:14am

Quite simply the best band in the world.

Posted by Reality on Monday, 08.3.09 @ 17:34pm

They've had worldwide domination since Dookie.

Yes, they'll be in there.

Posted by Foxy on Wednesday, 08.19.09 @ 02:45am

Green Day had a rough patch through American Idiot, but I have to admit, Dookie was a phenomenal album full of songs any rock fan could get along with. A couple of years during which they weren't doing as well (but didn't Zeppelin during Zeppelin III?), but they pulled through and released some of the most relevant albums of the times, American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown. They have preserved rock while fusing the perfect blend of punk and mainstream popularity. Even when not compared to other modern bands, they deserve the best. They may be a far cry, stylistically, from Springsteen, but so is Springsteen from BB King

Posted by Grant F. on Friday, 08.28.09 @ 20:25pm

Green Day will get in. Why? Because commercialized poster boys always get in.

Posted by Breaker on Friday, 09.11.09 @ 08:56am

Those 'commercialized poster boys' can rock too! They'll get in some day, count on it.

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 09.11.09 @ 13:14pm

I just saw them at the Forum in LA what show.. !
They make the Bealtes seem like a garage band!

Posted by rockinsue on Saturday, 09.12.09 @ 12:09pm

I'm a Green Day fan, so yes, I'm going to say they should be inducted. But that's the fan in me.

From a critical standpoint, Green Day has been an influnence, they pretty much created the modern new-punk. (Yes, I call them this; I come from a Sex Pistols stand-point [I don't think the Hall is a piss stain though,] they are NOT true punk.)They have, however, inspired their own way of going at the music(Rock and Roll.) Nobody else has done what they do, be it their stage shows, or their music. They are their own thing, so really, I guess they shouldn't have a genre (that people create.)

People shouldn't just be looking at their recent work (American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown,) but also at the fast, upbeat young music, like Dookie or Warning.

Most people didn't start listening to Green Day until much after American Idiot (I will admit I dislike these people,) but they are basing opinions off of recent work, when the original stuff needs to be looked at. Back in the 90s was when they really developed their influence and their style. (And for anyone reading, Dookie was my first album.)

Green Day needs to be given credit where it's due and, yeah, they've performed live with U2 (Beasts. So amazing,) but they've also played acoustic songs, and made them popular, not just "that one slow song that I always skip." Good Riddance (Time of Your Lives) is the greatest example of slowing down their up-beat style, but still making it Green day, and inspiring regular people, not just musicians.

So yes, from a fan standpoint, and a technical one, Green Day should be inducted. It's a given really. There are other bands and groups that have done so much less, or barely exist, that have been inducted, so I highly doubt Green Day will be declined.

Posted by Zoii on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 09:06am

And to clarify, I don't think Green Day, if inducted, should specifically be stuck under Punk rock. They are not original punk rock (Bands like The Sex Pistols, the Ramones... You know what I mean.) They're everything punk is against- so no, they're not punk... They're like punk's rebellious step-son; just trying to do something new. But, they are rock, and that's what the hall is about. It's the ROCK and ROLL hall of fame, not the Punk Rock Hall of Fame.

So please, stop simmering this down to whether they're punk or not, because that isn't AT ALL relevant to their induction.

Induction is based upon 25 years of existance since their first album release, and how influential they are, not only to rock music, but the music industry in general, because let us not forget the Run DMC is in the ROCK and ROLL Hall of Fame, which is useless, annoying, and cliche at best.

And I say again:

They are rock, and that's what the hall is about. It's the ROCK and ROLL hall of fame, not the Punk Rock Hall of Fame.

Posted by Zoii on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 09:20am

A great band..!!! Heck the Drummer even uses Leedy Drums now that is to cool... They rock!!

Posted by mrxyz on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 09:35am

Green Day = inevitable

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 13:15pm

I would say either them or NIN are the lock for class of '15.

Posted by Dude Man on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 19:13pm

Zoii, that was a nice writeup about the band's merits, but they aren't eligible until 2014.

Rest assured, they will be inducted at some point.

Posted by Paul in KY on Monday, 11.2.09 @ 06:15am

go mike. its aidan is that you

Posted by aidan on Friday, 11.27.09 @ 21:54pm

hell yea...green day is king of the punk right now and they will...

Posted by xerxes on Saturday, 12.12.09 @ 02:05am

Some how ripping off countless of other artists (Kinks Picture Book and Chicago 25 or 6 to 4)is original?

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 12.26.09 @ 21:42pm

evryones keeps saying Green Day arn't punk anymore (which is only true for some of there songs) but they are stil punk just s diffrent idea of punk, there own punk, and thats the point of punk to do things your own way, so all you people saying they need to go back to being punk think in through!!! if they did go back, thats not going with there own thing! is doing someone elses! WHICH GOES AGENST THE POINT OF PUNK U TWATES!!! GO GREEN DAY!!!

Posted by MT on Sunday, 12.27.09 @ 10:30am

PRobably my least favorite band ever.

Posted by Shiton Green on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 08:42am

Hey "Shiton" nice 1st name. Your parents must love you huh?

Posted by The Drummer on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 11:39am

LOOOOOOOOL How do they say your name at school. Shiton HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GREEN DAY OWNS YOU

Posted by WTF kind of name is Shiton on Wednesday, 01.13.10 @ 18:10pm