Bon Jovi

Not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Eligible since: 2008 (The 2009 Induction Ceremony)

Nominated in: 2011   

Previously Considered? Yes  what's this?


Inducted into Rock Hall Projected in 2022 (ranked #254) .


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Slippery When Wet (1986)

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Livin' On A Prayer (1986)
You Give Love A Bad Name (1986)
Wanted Dead or Alive (1987)
It's My Life (2000)

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Will Bon Jovi be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
"Musical excellence is the essential qualification for induction."
   

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THEYRE ONE OF THE BEST, MOST INFLUENTIAL ROCK BANDS IN HISTORY, SO THEY ABSOLUTELY DESERVE TO GO IN.

Posted by BRIAN on Monday, 09.25.06 @ 16:16pm


This is the most loved band across the WORLD!After all this time, are still selling out concerts! Bon Jovi with out any doubt deserve to be inducted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Kim on Tuesday, 10.17.06 @ 15:10pm


I wouldn't call Bon Jovi an all-time great band, but they've been around too long and had too many hits to be ignored. They get in.

Posted by A-Killa on Thursday, 10.19.06 @ 23:05pm


Most Influential ? Who did they influence exactly ? They are a hit making pop machine however , but under that critiera they will get in. Too many big hits , too many big grossing tours to ignore.

Posted by Ken on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 09:31am


I saw these guys when they were a small town garage band back in the late 70's. Played at pier 7 in jersey at the beach, these boys paid their dues like anyone else.the last time I saw them was in 86 slippery when wet and from there they only went up and reached superband status.

Doc mcgee screwed them but the boys took the trash out on him and have been better ever since. Yes....they will get in.

Posted by mel on Wednesday, 11.1.06 @ 18:58pm


You know how many rock bands today sight Bon Jovi as an influence?!

Posted by brian on Sunday, 11.5.06 @ 23:49pm


No, Brian, how many rock bands do site Bon Jovi as an influence? One? Four?

Posted by c.w. on Monday, 11.6.06 @ 13:37pm


I agree with CW. There might be some bands out there claiming influence, but somehow I doubt there are that many. Def Leppard probably has many more than them. If you want to talk about influence though, let's talk about Alice Cooper. Without the groups innovation the Rock scene would probably be drastically different. But, by the way things go in that place B.J. will probably get in first, and that's a shame.

Posted by Judy on Saturday, 11.11.06 @ 00:49am


A shame? Alice Cooper is a huge influence, but don't make Bon Jovi out to be some sort of one hit wonder.
Oh and CW:
Nikelback
All American Rejects
Bowling for Soup
The Goo Goo Dolls
Just to name a few.

Anyway, what's your problem with them, if you don't mind me asking?

Posted by BRIAN on Sunday, 11.19.06 @ 01:09am


they deserve to get in. they are the best m.f. band on god's earth

Posted by ivana on Friday, 12.1.06 @ 04:06am


Four of five original members, number one hits spanning almost 20 years, sell-out every where they go.

Their biggest accomplishment? Finding success even though people LOVE to HATE them.
I mean, c'mon, an '80's Hair band??? That's like a plague.

But these guys, in the year 2006, still manage to compete with the trendiest pop, rap, and r & b on the charts, and outdraw them by a LONG shot on the live front.

Unless you are one of the big names in rock, like U2, Stones, etc., that kind of thing doesnt happen.

Thats why these guys deserve to be talked about right up there with the rest of them.

Posted by tommy on Sunday, 12.3.06 @ 04:30am


yes its a no brainer

Posted by curt on Sunday, 12.10.06 @ 10:14am


They have tons of hits, are great musicians and popular world wide. I think they are hard to ignore for the hall of fame. Sure they aren't the most influential band and there may be more deserving (I see mentions of Alice Coopers), but you simply can't ignore Bon Jovi.

Posted by Justin on Tuesday, 12.12.06 @ 20:14pm


Obviously we know all there hit songs. They also discovered other bands that made it such as Skid Row & Cinderella. Both bands posted Top 40 hits in the late 80's. There sound is distinct. They were not just a "hair" band like Winger or Warrant. There's something to be said about a band that can produce hits through 3 decades and keep that Bon Jovi sound.

Posted by Eric Fortunato on Sunday, 12.24.06 @ 06:59am


YES!

Posted by Alice on Monday, 01.1.07 @ 22:32pm


Metal-lite chick bands like Bon Jovi and Def Leppard will not make it into the Rock Hall of Fame. If they did, the whole thing would lose respect and degenerate into a big joke.

Posted by Sneak on Tuesday, 01.2.07 @ 21:39pm


I think a lot of musicians around the age of 25 -30 would admit to at one stage being Bon Jovi fans, with probably "Slippery When Wet" their first record. But as far as influence is concerned, you don't see too many bands coming and saying they were influenced by them - even though I was as a musician.

But if integrity is a criteria, then they should get in - because their records contain great musicianship and songwriting.

As for Alice Cooper - he will get in at some stage, he is too well respected not be inducted, and his influence and impact was almost instant. But we will see, I guess.

Posted by Ace on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 20:11pm


Why the hell is a punk from Jersey singing about cowboys?

Posted by Kit on Monday, 01.8.07 @ 22:12pm


Its a metaphor. Before you go slinging insults, get an education.

Yes to Jovi. 25 years of hits, and they never had to resort to adolescent behavior self proclaiming their badassedness.

"We are hardcore because we are druggies, alcohalics, and trash hotel rooms"

--Thats the ticket many other acts use as their claim to being hard. Just sounds like trash to me.


Bon Jovi has always let the music do the talking, and never needed to put on a front like that. Its even MORE commendable that they keep drama like that, that other bands would exploit, under wraps.

Posted by Jeff on Wednesday, 01.10.07 @ 07:21am


It's a stupid metaphor. By a stupid band.

Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 01.10.07 @ 15:17pm


Chick Band?
Yeah, ok....

Posted by BRIAN on Wednesday, 01.10.07 @ 20:39pm


Anyone ever see Triumph the Insult Comic Dog go to the Bon Jovi concert on Conan O'Brien?

"As you can see, quite the turnout. The Press has come from as far away as exit 12."

"So, you're going to be in a vampire movie? Finally, a role that REQUIRES you to suck!"

No way will Bon Jovi get nominated by the current regime, and rightfully so.

A few years ago, my dad asked for a Bon Jovi CD for Christmas. I laughed in his face.


Then I kicked him in the face.

He got no music for Christmas.

Posted by Matt on Thursday, 01.11.07 @ 14:32pm


Bon Jovi undenaibly gets in.

In '09, it will be 25 years, same lineup save for the bass player. By then they will have sold 110 to 115 million albums, and have top hits in 3 decades.

Aside from that, Sambora is a great guitarist, and Bryan is about the best out there as well.

That, and the humanitarian work these guys do is astounding.

They are in, easy.

Posted by Paul on Monday, 01.15.07 @ 03:21am


Now if only they could write some halfway-decent songs...

Posted by William on Monday, 01.15.07 @ 05:24am


are u kidding me? pop-metal fluff for girls with no musical taste? god help us if these punks get in...i'm from jersey and i realllllllyyyyy hate them

Posted by diggles on Monday, 01.15.07 @ 23:43pm


I was wrong. I said by then they will have sold 110-115 million albums. Acording to the only statistics I could find, they have already sold 120.


You guys should check out some of their stuff thats NOT played on the radio.

Here you are posting comments like you know what you are talking about, and Ill bet you've never even heard the bands best work;


Last Man Standing- lyrical gem

My guitar lies bleeding in my arms
something to believe in
Undivided
just older
dry county


Look, im not trying to get bashed here. Im just pointing out that while I agree 90% of their songs that get radio play are bubble gum pop songs, there are more to these guys than that.

Please, please dont flame me here, Im just trying to have a civilized conversation here.

Posted by Paul on Tuesday, 01.16.07 @ 03:34am


Of Course, Bon Jovi was one of the biggest bands in the 80's. Besides there already in the UK Music Hall of Fame.

Posted by Doc on Saturday, 01.20.07 @ 19:42pm


If they do not get in then the hall is more of a joke than it already is. Considering that Bon Jovie continues to evolve musically (from hair metal to pure rock and some country) there is no reason to keep this band from the hall.

Posted by AR on Friday, 02.2.07 @ 01:15am


Has Bon Jovi EVER put out a decent, memorable song? No, they haven't. Keep them out. This is a hair band, pure and simple.

Posted by mark on Friday, 03.2.07 @ 00:03am


Fluff crap. No KISS then no Bon Jovi.

Posted by Matt on Sunday, 03.4.07 @ 10:25am


ok so what 's the problem with some people here...hell if you guys don't like bon jovi,at least don't come out here and saying crap about them...it just portrays your mentality towards great musicians and also the music that you listen to(god it must be shitty that it forces you to take your anger out on legends).
there are many bands that i don't like but that doesn't mean i go on their webpage/message board or any of their web related page and start bashing them and their music because i know that it's my choice and there might be some other people out there who might be offended(a typical mentality of a bon jovi fan and also a sane person).
so whether you like the band or hate them.THEY WOULD BE INDUCTED IN THE HALL OF FAME sooner or later..they've sold 120 million albums despite various attempts by a** h***s(like you morons) to criticise the band and to put them down...did it happen...no! cause the band just don't care about mad barking dogs.

and mark YES bon jovi has a bunch of decent songs out there.you just can't accept the fact that this band is far more successful as compared to whatever crap that you're into.

i rest my case here.don't like the band?don't comment no one gives a s**t about you.GET A LIFE.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 03.10.07 @ 09:34am


Terrible logic. Bon Jovi will never outsell ABBA. Obviously whoever sells the most records wins at music, right?

No.

By the way, this is a page for discussion, not a circle jerk. Expect some amount of dissent.

Bon Jovi has not contributed a single thing to music. There is no originality and minimal influence.

Posted by William on Saturday, 03.10.07 @ 17:01pm


william,dude
of all the things the only thing that you read was about album sales...it was an example.
abba was a great band,but that wasn't my point.

and also bon jovi has contributed a lot to music...
take MTV UNPLUGGED for an example.

Posted by jaskaran on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 00:01am


And one more thing William,
expect some dissent...you say
well

"Fluff crap"

"are u kidding me? pop-metal fluff for girls with no musical taste? god help us if these punks get in...i'm from jersey and i realllllllyyyyy hate them"

"It's a stupid metaphor. By a stupid band."

this ain't dissent,it's plain chirlish and stupid behaviour and it's taking cheapshots towards the artist.

I am not a Bon Jovi fan but i'll agree to some of the guys here and say that they deserve to be in the hall of fame and especially with Jaskaran

"there are many bands that i don't like but that doesn't mean i go on their webpage/message board or any of their web related page and start bashing them and their music because i know that it's my choice and there might be some other people out there who might be offended."

Posted by andrew on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 00:10am


Bon Jovi has been around so long they have to get into the hall of fame. Not only that, but look beyond the singles released and they have great music on offer to. These guy's can produce great records! Okay it's not to everybody's taste - so what?! I don't like certain bands, but thats expected. If we all liked the same stuff then how boring would that be!!!

They started up MTV unplugged.

They do loads of work to help the poor etc.

I know loads of "want to be" guitarists and keyboard players who are influenced by Richie and Bryan and the band! Thats influence. And thats an influence that can't be seen by many... But it sure as hell means the most!

Posted by Stu on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 04:26am


To Ken: In addition to several other artists, they not only "influenced," but created MTV Unplugged. This band DEFINITELY deserves to get in.

Posted by Lauren on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 05:58am


Being the first artist on the first episode of MTV Unplugged does not mean they "created" MTV Unplugged, it just means they happened to be the first band the network chose to have. Their schedule was probably clear at the time, so that was probably it...

Look, to those peple who bristle at the hint of dissent about a particular band in this forum, remember the purpose here. We are talking about the merits / downside of whatever band or artist we are discussing, and whether or not they deserve to be inducted into the RRHOF. It would be a very boring discussion if everyone who came here loved the band. What kind of conversation is that?

As for Bon Jovi, they should not get in. I like some of their tunes, good 80's hits, but they are not important enough for induction.

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 10:08am


Dezmond that's where you're DEAD WRONG
The band was supposed to do a live performance at the mtv music awards in 1989 when the Jon and Richie decided that they should do an acoustic performance instead of the regular electric one.It was nowhere near being the network's idea.

The guys went out there and performed the acoustic sets of two of their hit songs i.e Livin' on a prayer and Wanted dead or alive.

Later that night,the guys were awarded with a best live performance award for their brilliant acoustic performance,thereby igniting the idea for the series MTV UNPLUGGED in which various artists performed and also had more success than jon and richie THE ORIGINAL CREATORS.

Posted by Nathan on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 10:16am


And you Bon jovi haters talk about a boring discussion,well son get your facts straight before even starting a discussion.

Posted by Nathan on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 10:20am


Over Jann Wenner's dead body do Bon Jovi get in. And mine. I won't allow it. It's not happening. A snowball's chance in hell.

Posted by Matt. on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 12:19pm


Hey Dezmond - There was NO MTV Unplugged when Jon and Richie did a short, impomptu accoustic set. It was a hit. It was THEN that MTV created the show MTV Unplugged based on Jon and Richie's performance. Hence, them creating it.

You have to keep in mind that the Hall of Fame recognizes achievement, not opinion or taste. Achievement in music can come from various places but usually starts with widespread success. No one can deny that Bon Jovi has had 25 years of widespread success. They've sold over 100 million albums. The Hall of Fame's purpose is to recognize artists who've left a profound impact on the course of rock 'n' roll itself. Bon Jovi fits the bill. I predict they'll be nominated and make it in the first year they're eligible.


Posted by Ashley on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 15:52pm


I never realized that Bon Jovi was the first artist in the history of the world to do an impromptu acoustic set.

Posted by Kit on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 17:32pm


I stand corrected, then. Perhaps they did give MTV the idea for a show of acoustic campfire sessions. Fine.

Ashley, you are right, the Hall of Fame is supposed to reward achievement. Now the reality is that often artists are inducted precisely because of the personal tastes of the power players on the committee, such as Wenner and Landau. But that's another discussion. Bon Jovi has achieved great record sales, but so did The Monkees and Barry Manilow. So, sure sales are a factor to consider, but far from the strongest argument to make for a band's induction. They just have not achieved a level of creativity and moving the music forward in some way to warrant induction. They were a solid pop hair band from the 80's who have managed to survive the backlash and now can sell out some nostalgia drenched shows. I doubt the band of "Little Runaway" (or whatever the song is called) will be inducted in the Hall. If they are, it will be because it was a very slow year and they were running out of eligible artists still waiting to get in.

Posted by Dezmond on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 17:45pm


Put down the pipe Dezmond. Commercial success is meaningful because, like it or not, music is a BUSINESS. An artist who has sold over 100,000,000 albums and still sells out stadiums has a accomplished significant achievements. But the Hall of Fame voters each have their own agenda, so we'll see what happens in two years. Peace.

Posted by Ashely on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 20:02pm


Hey Matt
when's the funeral?
R.I.P

Posted by Kyle on Sunday, 03.11.07 @ 21:35pm


I think Bon Jovi should make it in, easy. They have been one of the most greatest bands ever. They also have came up with alot of amazing songs, and there still coming up with more. Bon Jovi Rocks!

Posted by Rebecca on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 00:04am


Well Ashley if sales are so important why do I not see you making a stand on the Justin Timberlake page?

Posted by Kiti on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 00:21am


I agree that sales can be a factor to consider, but like I said, it is only one of several factors, and not the most important one. It can cut either way, so it is not determinative.

For instance, The Velvet Underground, a RRHOF inductee and acknowledged as one of the most important and influential bands in rock history, didn't sell many records at all when they were together. They often didn't even fill clubs, much less arenas or stadiums. Yet there they are, and nobody could seriously argue that they don't belong there just because they didn't sell a lot of records. On the flip side, The Monkees sold a crapload of records in their day, but they should not be inducted.

I pick extreme examples, but you see my point, I hope. I am not denying that commercial success is not a factor, but when other factors are against you, it cannot save you.

Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 06:39am


I meant to say I am not denying that commercial success is a factor. Double negative. Sorry.

Posted by Dezmond on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 06:42am


bon jovi is the best band eva!! i first started listening to them wen i was 9 yrs old in 2000.. i am now 15 almost 16 and the music i heard and when they play alive is just so awesome. jon is just the best singa ever. richie is the best guitarist ever tico is the best drummer and david is just so good with the keyboard. BON JOVI IS THE BEST BAND EVA!!! I LOVE THEM THEY ROCK!!! bon jovi should be in 100%.

Posted by kerriann on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 10:02am


They should be they are a huge band with a huge following having been around for over 20 years, not many bands mange that these days, They have influnced lots of other acts and there music has been used in countless films and tv shows... bon jovi rock!!!!

Posted by therresa powell on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 10:13am


They are one of the biggest bands out there, they desreve this more than anyone. Every time i see them they are sold out, they are the band every one loves to hate but i love them and 1000,000,000 plus fans cant be wrong!!

Posted by theresa powell on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 10:16am


This entire debate is futile nonsense and a place for anger management-challenged boys to vent their verbal diarrhea.
Bon Jovi is simply not respected as they should be.
Not by critics.
Not by 'music fans' who think they have a club about what is 'legitimate' or 'important' music
Not by even lamer music fans who have such low self esteem that they find their identities bolster when they align their own personal music tastes with those deemed acceptable by the so-called arbitors and gatekeepers of what is good music. Please, make stamps of Bruce and Bono so these sycophants can like their ass even more.
It's all bullshit.

It's no secret that KISS is not getting in because some of those on the board have a hard on and have publicly stated they will not allow them in. What kind of idiocy is that? I'm not a huge KISS fan and I think they're a joke now - milking a one-note career (brilliantly) but chasing the dollars only now... do I think they belong in the Hall of Fame? Absofreakinlutely!!!!
I understand the argument if Kiss can't get in, then Bon Jovi shouldn't -- in theory you might not be wrong, but this isn't theoretical. KISS has a personal battle with some people on the board -- why is that Bon Jovi's fault? You'd deny Bon Jovi something because Kiss is being denied it? It's not Jon Bon Jovi keeping KISS from the Hall of Fame. Bon Jovi opened for Kiss -- pretty sure the band would vote unanimously for Kiss to be in the Hall of Fame. But I suppose its easier to toss around some pedantic and tired attempts at insults (hair band, chick band, unoriginal, blah, blah, blah) than accept they too deserve a place in the Hall of Fame.
Want to make a statement? Publicize the vocal board members who have made it a life's crusade to keep KISS out? It's a playground where the bullies are music industry "experts?" C'mon... what a load of moose dung.
Personal TASTE versus a clear vision of the overall industry is getting fuzzier and fuzzier.
MY opinion as a fan of music is just as legitimate as a corner-office, grey-haired suit still talking about the salad days when they did the marketing for Bruce's Born In The USA album...
Bon Jovi have alot of detractors. Many unwarranted.
Facts are facts... something like 120 million albums sold worldwide..
A 20+ career and they're selling out bigger stadiums now than in what the head-up-their-ass garden variety of critics mistakenly dub with the misnomer their 'heyday.'
They were not the first to play acoustic but Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora's acoustic performance on the 89 MTV Awards changed TV and music... Ray Davies, Jules Holland -- all great but until the MTV execs saw that the audience reacted well to the idea, they didn't jump to create the UnPlugged series, albums and subsequent movement...
And, if you want any proof that they aren't a hairband and nothing but fluff, those two singers/songwriters sat on two bar stools with nothing but two guitars and played two giants hit songs in stripped down versions -- they way they wrote them.

If you don't like Bon Jovi, fine.
If you don't think they belong in the hall of fame, fine.
But if you think YOUR opinion matters any more than anyone elses, that you have some sure handle on the truth, you're delusional and frustrated.
There are lots of artists that deserve to be in the hall of fame -- some that got in too early, some that shouldn't have to fight again and again for the nomination and then the induction... yeah, that sucks. But that's not Bon Jovi's fault.
It's the fault of the self-appointed judges who think themselves superior to the artists and the public. Take your bile and anger out towards them or, better yet, push for who you want in...
But take your schoolyard taunts and pedestrians jabs elsewhere -- somewhere, a second-grade classroom is missing the petulant kid in the last row.

Posted by CJ on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 10:27am


Can we discuss a band that isn't painfully mediocre? Just once? Just as a change of pace?

Posted by Kit on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 10:42am


Simple.....BON JOVI ROCKS!!!

Posted by jen on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 11:58am


This band rocks and keeps on rocking. They have reached more fans worldwide than any other artist. They touch people with their lyrics, and let's just say their live shows are somewhat of a religious experience. We have been blessed with great song writers, singers, and performers with Bon Jovi.
The first time I ever heard Runaway I said this guy is going to be a huge star. 26 years later they still move me with their art and expression of love for humanity.
These guys so deserve to be put into the Rock and Roll hall of fame, it would be quite an injustice if they weren't put into it.
Thank you Bon Jovi for 20+ years of Rock and Roll.
Here's to another 20.

Posted by SARA GLAUSER on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 12:12pm


The other artists were great in there time but, other than the Red Hot Chili Peppers what have they done in the last 10-15 years? Cindy Lauper has made a small comeback as of late but, Bon Jovi is the only one that has stayed in the spotlights since the group formed.
With that being said they not only should be in the Rock&Roll Hall Of Fame but they deserve it!!!!

Posted by Nina Kovacich on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 12:16pm


BonJovi is filling arenas,and selling big numbers of albums. They are still experimenting, growing, and evolving. Plus, all the social and economic contributions that have become important to them makes, them Hall of Famers in my book!!! They are truely images for positive role models. Young musicians should take note.

Posted by jane on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 15:26pm


You can call them a hair band, glam band or whatever else you want but they must be doing something right if they are still around today making music and selling out concerts. So I Say HELL YES

Posted by D on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 15:33pm


Talented songwriters, gifted musicians. Maybe if they were ugly they'd have more street-cred. It doesn't matter, they should get in. Very few bands endure for 25 years and they have evolved with the times and continue to show the world some great music. How many of today's 'artists' (because few are actually musicians) do you think will be around come 2030? Very few, I'd wager.

Posted by carolina on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 21:36pm


I agree with the idea that everyone has an opinion. However, before you can formulate an "intelligent opinion" you should know all the facts.

Most of Bon Jovi's released singles haven't always (in my opinion) been the best choices to reflect the band's talent. But how can anyone judge a band's entire career based solely on their single releases?!

Listen to their entire catalog with an unbiased ear and I promise you will find a lot more talent than you bargained for. Most of their jewels are hidden in the unreleased singles, ie:

"Save a Prayer" from Keep the Faith
"Just Older" from Crush
"Miss Fourth of July" from Box Set
"Unbreakable" and "Last Man Standing" from their latest Have a Nice Day album...

Not to mention the amazing work that did get released as singles but didn't receive much attention... Like:

Dry County
Someday I'll be Saturday Night
Something to Believe in
Good Guys don't Always Wear White

I am willing to bet that most of the people that have said something negative about the band's imminent induction into the Hall of Fame have never heard any of these songs, much less the entire catalog. Make up your own minds based on the material that the band put forth, not what everyone else says... And you can't do that if you're not hearing the songs.

Most of the music critics have never been kind to the band... because of their good looks and commercial appeal or maybe their choice of singles, who knows why really?! Personally, I feel that they've always received a pretty bad wrap from the industry, not the respect that they need.

It's not "cool" to like Bon Jovi and most musicians are unwilling to give the band credit as one of their influences... maybe for fear of being ridiculed. However, their impact on the music scene is very apparent and it's a real shame that they are not more recognized for that achievement.

Bon Jovi have meant a great deal to me throught my life. Their music has been of great solice in my times of need. They have impacted my life with their work and that alone makes them more than deserving of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!!!

Posted by Marta on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 23:02pm


i have been a fan of bon jovi since 1994 and i will always be a fan of the band. i love the music, i love the chemisrty between ane guys and i definatly think they should be inducted. i think its a shame when only bon jovi fans understand the greatness of this band and how they have influenced so many people over the years, both musicians and the public, and contintue to do so. even now while i am writing this my boyfriend is taking the mick out of bon jovi. but you know what i have learnt over the years that it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks about the band/bands you love at the end of the day if they say something that touches you then who is anyone else to say they dont matter, there has beens, there rubbish etc. now i just smile say i love them and thats all that matters to me....have a nice day.

bon jovi, in my opinion is a definate to be inducted....

Posted by jackie on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 10:05am


Bon Jovi is one of the greatest bands that ever lived! Im surprised they are not in the hall of fame already! They really deserve to be in there. The have sold millions of records, had many hits, and have sold out shows all over the world for over 20 years. I have always been a fan and i love them and their music. Bon Jovi's music is music that many people can relate to. They will be around for a long, long time and continue to sell millions of albums and keep making hits. Here's to another 20 years of great music!!!

Posted by Gina on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 12:02pm


I appreciate the heartfelt sentiments from Marta and others. I've got some favorite bands too that have meant a lot to me. Some are in the Hall of Fame already, some will probably get in eventually, and some I am fairly certain will never make it. Unfortunately, the fact that you really dig the band and they are one of your favorites is not part of the criteria for induction. I could discuss at length why I think Men At Work was a great band and how Colin Hay is not as respected as he should be, but at the same time I would not try and argue that they should be in the Hall of Fame. The fact that I really like them a lot is irrelevant to the conversation.

Posted by Dezmond on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 17:04pm


When I think of Bon Jovi, I think of Journey with a cuter lead singer. In effect, if they influenced anyone, they were heavily influenced themselves. They probably will eventually be inducted, but I don't think on merit.

Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 03.13.07 @ 17:45pm


YES, YES, YES!!! Bon Jovi should be in!! They have achieved a lot of success!!

Posted by Lindaloulou on Wednesday, 03.14.07 @ 10:24am


Ok..Bon Jovi is an AMAZING band. after being in the buisness for over 20 years, and selling over 100,000,000 records these guys deserve more than ANYBODY...to be included into the Hall of Fame. Plus...these guys are STILL goin strong! And not to mention..they're incredibly tallented!

Posted by Natalie on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 06:54am


Bon Jovi is a damn good band that has stood the test of time, but they can't go in before they finish inducting all of the deserving bands from the 70's. To name a few: Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Genesis, Steve Miller Band, Yes, Alice Cooper, Chicago, Grand Funk, Supertramp, the Doobie Brothers, Styx, ELO, Rush, Bad Company, Kansas, Kiss, Journey and Heart.

Posted by Stan on Friday, 03.16.07 @ 19:09pm


I LOVE BON JOVI......THESE GUYS ROCK MY LIFE....AND I LOVE JOHN MORE THAN MY OWN LIFE !!!!!

BON JOVI IS THE BEST ROCKBAND ALL OVER THE WORLD!!!

Posted by joviwife on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 04:59am


bon jovi will make it is for sure. they have my vote 100%. i been a fan since these days and they are just the best band eva!!! they have so many hit singles that they should be inducted. bon jovi best band eva!!!

Posted by katie on Monday, 03.19.07 @ 09:57am


Posted by CJ on Monday, 03.12.07 @ 10:27am

That post, right there, is the most intelligent post in this thread. Honestly. A discussion board is not going to sway any opinions, nor does any single post here denote superior knowledge or intelligence over any other. When the Hall inducts its people, they use criteria. If those critera are met or surpassed, the nominee gets in, If not, they don't. We, as fans of music, have limited influence over that criteria, the influence being in the areas of sales, marketing and the like: if we buy albums, the band gets sales. If we buy merchandise and splatter the band logo everywhere, they get credit for being commercially acceptable. But induction in to the Hall is comprised of more than just sales: it is influenced by longevity in the business (which Bon Jovi has, whether anyone likes it or not), quality of music (which is subjective and only matters to those on the election commite) and other intangible factors.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/rockhall/2006/voting.jsp
What it REALLY boils down to is this: if the election committe can make a case that the nominee deserves to get in, then they will. SInce nobody on the committe appears to have a grudge against Bon Jovi, and Bon Jovi is currently in a favorable light in the media, I'd say they are a shoe-in.
First rock band to go number one on the...COUNTRY chart? Definite influence there.
A hundred milion tickets sold around the globe? Bon Jovi brings rock to Russia.
Bon Jovi is the impetus for the creation of the Unplugged series.

You don't always have to be the FIRST to do something: you just have to be recognized as the one who made it POPULAR. Basic marketing there, and this band is a marketing wet dream. :)

Just my two cents.

Posted by rock queen on Wednesday, 03.21.07 @ 09:30am


This band has made so much good music it almost hurts to hear their new stuff. One should look at the postive sides of their career, and if one do they should definately be inducted for albums like Slippery When Wet and Keep The Faith.

Posted by Old Jovi Fan on Thursday, 03.22.07 @ 04:15am


I agree with Stan, who states that Bon Jovi shouldn't get in until several 70s bands get in. I don't agree that those bands should be in; rather, Bon Jovi is, and always has been, the 80s equivalent of the Steve Miller Band, Grand Funk, Styx, et al. They're all perfectly workmanlike arena bands but, like a decent utility infielder, you can't really call them Hall of Famers. Sorry, Bon Jovi, but you don't belong.

Also, the reviewer who states that Bon Jovi has remained on top of the charts for 20+ years apparently missed the mid-90s when Jon and the boys couldn't see the charts for the curvature of the earth.

Posted by Evan on Friday, 03.23.07 @ 15:02pm


Evan... the US is not the only country that buys albums. These Days and Keep the Faith sold extremely well overseas (These Days is claimed to have sold over 20 million), but were only lower level hits in the US. (hell, just look at Iron Maiden, there success is due to the world market, not the US market... 80 million worldwide)

Bon Jovi is one of the few groups that continues to evolve and try new things. Much like Metallica, they are not afraid to go in a completely different direction with an album (a Bon Jovi Country album forthcoming?). And can any of you honestly sit there and say that the Beatles and Rolling Stones "classier" song writers. "Start Me Up" is a fairly crass song, but it seems that they are still Hall of Famers. People don't look at the "intellectual" value of a song all the time, some just look for fun songs. And Bon Jovi has some of the greatest "fun" songs (You Give Love a Bad Name).

It is pathetic that Bon Jovi is stereotyped and dismissed because they started in and were the poster boys of the 80's glam metal scene. And that doesn't make sense anyway you think about it. Every one remembers the songs from that scene and has come free of that "guilty pleasure" monicker forced on it during the horribly overrated grundge era. Just play Cherry Pie and see how many know it. Bon Jovie just happened to have two major albums come out in that period. And millions of people of worldwide would pay quite a hefty sum to hear those songs live in concert (but unlike the Rolling Stones, Bon Jovi doesn't stab you in the heart, kick you to the ground and steal all your money before they give you tickets).

If they are not in, it is not a stain on Bon Jovi, it is a stain on the hall.

Posted by Al on Saturday, 03.31.07 @ 00:30am


Good god no! They were formed when a big record company needed a bunch of gay posers who could look like they could play an instrument when they couldn't

Posted by frodijr on Wednesday, 04.4.07 @ 13:18pm


Posted by Evan on Friday, 03.23.07 @ 15:02pm

"Also, the reviewer who states that Bon Jovi has remained on top of the charts for 20+ years apparently missed the mid-90s when Jon and the boys couldn't see the charts for the curvature of the earth."


Evan, were you under a rock when Bed of Roses drove Keep the Faith past the platinum status? Where were you when Always took off like a rocket, and Crossroad sold what, 8....10....12 million copies?

With only 2 band albums released with all new material in the '90's, (Keep the Faith-'92; These Days-'95) the band had 7 singles chart in the US.

All three of the albums they released in the 90's (the 2 mentioned above, plus hits package Crossroad) made the top 10 in the charts.

Posted by Me on Sunday, 04.8.07 @ 23:14pm


Fuck what the haters say. Bon Jovi should be as should all the other hair metal greats

Posted by Creepozoid on Tuesday, 04.10.07 @ 02:52am


I don't understand how anyone hear can argue against the band's merits. Musically, fine. That's personal taste. There are several bands in the hall I don't enjoy, but I won't argue the merits of them. I mean Bon Jovi has 120,000,000 records sold, has massive success any time they tour, has had something like 15 US top 40 singles, and are evn more successful in Europe. They clearly have longevity and staying power, as well as a huge amount of commercial appeal. They have 6 worldwide diamond (10,000,000+) albums, and every other of they're relases is double platinum or higher. You want to sit here and say their music sucks, fine. But don't deny that they are in the pantheon of greats, and deserve to be in the hall.

Posted by BRIAN on Tuesday, 04.10.07 @ 11:54am


Commerically successful band? No doubt.

Influential? No....


Different? No.....


HOF Material No....


Sorry, the way it is...

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.2.07 @ 05:46am


As for record sales, half of the sales are from woman who think he is "hot." Being "hot" should not qualify you for the HOF.

Personally, a few of his songs are catchy, but for the most part he stinks...

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.2.07 @ 05:48am


Anonymous,quit smoking pot.
the woman who think that he's "hot" can get their satisfaction from the internet itself.

The booklets accompanying the records don't contain "softcore" pictures of Jon for the girls.
GROW UP..that's the age old excuse for "whiners" to get dirt on Bon Jovi.

The band is different,hell yes.

They had the balls to diversify from the whole glam rock scene and start making some really good rock music when artists similar to them were struggling like shit.MOTLEY CRUE,they suffered throughout the 90's...DEF LEPPARD went downhill..there are various others who just "disappeared" or are "barely" in the "scene".

Even in the 2000's,they came back with a bang.
They certainly fiddled with their music...Crush(pop-rockish material)..Bounce(back on the hard rock track)..This Left Feels Right(artistic genius)..Have A Nice Day(a loud, feel good rock record..keeping rock alive),Lost Highway(half rock,half country influenced record).But nonetheless,they have succeeded.

Even Metallica hired Bon Jovi's video director(Wayne Isham),their producer(Bob Rock) to benefit themselves.
call them "sell-outs" but they are still undoubtedly on top of their game.

Influential,yes
Many artists praise Bon Jovi for their longevity in the business,certainly it's not because of Jon's hotness,the guy has himself admitted that.


Hall Of Fame material
I'll be damned if they don't make it in..sooner or later,they're coming in.


And get your facts straight,"He"..this is a Bon Jovi page not a Jon Bon Jovi thread.

clearly you're just here to show your mentality.
HAVE A VERY NICE "CLINT EASTWOOD" DAY

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.10.07 @ 02:58am


No, I was here merely to give my opinion. It does not mean that I am right....it is just my opinion

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 05.13.07 @ 21:35pm


That's ok Anonymous,i respect your opinion,but i couldn't tolerate the "records sold due to jon's hotness" comment,this band has made some great music and the still continue to do so,we all have out individual choices and opinion.

Posted by Geoffrey on Monday, 05.14.07 @ 02:59am


I don't think his music was "great", just average, to me at least...

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 05.15.07 @ 17:50pm


Once again,you've shown your mentality.
HIS music might not be great,of course,the guy has only released 2 solo albums till date,but the band is legendary.
You might not agree with me,big deal,there are many people who won't but then again there are many people who would.

Posted by Geoffrey on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 03:58am


And, your point is....???

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 19:53pm


There are so many bands that are better than Bon Jovi. They are just your average boring rock band.

Posted by PJ on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 20:29pm


"There are so many bands that are better than Bon Jovi. They are just your average boring rock band."


Thank you...

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 22:08pm


pj,since when did bon jovi started saying that they were the best?
they are indeed one of the greatest rock bands..there's no denying in it.

Posted by jaskaran on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 22:09pm


anonymous,let's name at least 5 bands who started in the of the 80's,better than jovi.

Posted by jaskaran on Wednesday, 05.16.07 @ 22:10pm


Five better '80s bands? That's a tough one, but let me give it a shot:

Bad Brains
Big Black
Dinosaur Jr.
Fugazi
Gun Club
Husker Du
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Killing Joke
The Melvins
Metallica
Minutemen
Mission of Burma
Mudhoney
My Bloody Valentine
Naked Raygun
Nick Cave
The Pixies
The Pogues
The Replacements
Slint
The Smiths
Sonic Youth
Soul Asylum
U2
Voivod

Nevermind. That wasn't hard at all.

Posted by William on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 00:03am


William, you forgot R.E.M.

Remember that we need to keep shoving the fact that R.E.M. were a seminal 80's act, if not the greatest, down the throats of those uninformed posters here that go on about how they were "cheesy" and "had a few big songs in the 90s".....*sigh*

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 00:29am


Simply better than B.J.?
You forgot Wham! and Men Without Hats, William!

Posted by shawn on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 00:49am


I "forgot" a lot of things because typing every single '80s band better than Bon Jovi would take too long. If you honestly can't think of at least five better bands from the '80s, I pity you.

Posted by William on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 01:44am


No, I can For Reals think of at least 5 bands from the 80's I believe are superior to Bon Jovi; I was just concurring with the point your long list made that there are so many, and BJ is so bad, that even kitschy acts could be considered their better.
You know, this can get rally dry and void of fun when we have to be so cold sober and austere.

Posted by shawn on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 09:20am


I was using "you" in the general sense, not specifically directed at anyone except maybe the girl who made the challenge in the first place.

Posted by William on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 11:49am


But hey, BJ have at least got us discussing their relevance. And doesn't that make them Hall worthy?

No.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 05.17.07 @ 19:18pm


William,except for Metallica and U2,where are the rest of your bands?playing in local bars or selling blowjobs for food?

Posted by Jacob on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 01:32am


Shawn wrote:
Simply better than B.J.?
You forgot Wham! and Men Without Hats, William!

wham!!..all right,now i know whose comments are as worthless as his musical choice.

Posted by jaskaran on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 01:49am


William wrote:
I "forgot" a lot of things because typing every single '80s band better than Bon Jovi would take too long. If you honestly can't think of at least five better bands from the '80s, I pity you.

not BETTER but as good as:
def leppard
motley crue
skid row
poison
cinderella
there's 5 bands for you,there are more..but i said 5...oh and that's a pretty long list of YOUR favorite bands.

and dude,if you honestly think all the rubbish that you type,is true,i feel sorry for you man.

and oh,here's a reply for your previous "comment":

"Terrible logic. Bon Jovi will never outsell ABBA. Obviously whoever sells the most records wins at music, right?"
who say's they can't..(except for a few of people like you jovi haters),bon jovi has reached the 120 mil. mark...just wait and see,and when they do,i'll know where to find you.

Posted by jaskaran on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 01:59am


AYYYEEE!! Run for your lives! The Bon Jovi Army has been awakened and they are displeased! On a steel horse they ride and they have Aqua Net! Save yourselves!!

Posted by shawn on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 11:25am


"William,except for Metallica and U2,where are the rest of your bands?playing in local bars or selling blowjobs for food?"-Jacob

And yet the tragic irony is that they've all innovated and influenced more than Bon Jovi ever will. Imagine that.

"who say's they can't..(except for a few of people like you jovi haters),bon jovi has reached the 120 mil. mark...just wait and see,and when they do,i'll know where to find you."-jaskaran

Quit trying to co-opt their success. Liking a successful band does not make you a successful person. Making bullshit arguments about record sales in defense of boring-as-fuck third-rate Bruce Springsteen wannabe with one half-decent album to his name doesn't help either.

Posted by William on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 13:37pm


"William,except for Metallica and U2,where are the rest of your bands?playing in local bars or selling blowjobs for food?"

Because those are the only two extremes of success, right? Right.

ps: Sonic Youth had probably the best album of last year, amazing for a band that's been producing full-throttle for almost 25 years, and Dinosaur Jr released a heavily acclaimed album released this very month. Maybe if you weren't so busy looking at what you had for dinner last night, you'd pull your head out your ass and open up to the huge world of music that surrounds you.

Posted by Kit on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 18:29pm


William,apparently you seem to hate every other mainstream rock act,i've seen your whiner ass comments in Metallica and Green Day threads too.
And I'll be saying what other's told ya...
You and your alternate loving friends can go to hell.
Have A Nice Day

Posted by Jacob on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 21:20pm


I hate Metallica so much I voted FOR their induction.

Nice try.

Posted by William on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 22:29pm


for fucks sake...Not liking mainstream artists is a sign of social deviation now?

I like a ton of things that are/were/will be mainstream...it's not an either/or proposition and there's no reason for it to be. People who say "I hate all underground" or "I hate all mainstream" miss the point entirely and should be kicked in the face with a loaded boot.

Posted by Kit on Friday, 05.18.07 @ 22:36pm


Quit trying to co-opt their success. Liking a successful band does not make you a successful person. Making bullshit arguments about record sales in defense of boring-as-fuck third-rate Bruce Springsteen wannabe with one half-decent album to his name doesn't help either.-William

okay when did i say liking a successful band makes me successful,that's truly your opinion..maybe you're the one who might be thinking like that,except in your case,we'll replace the word "like" with "hate".

i made a bullshit comment,you replied to it with some artist who happen to have the higher sales mark..ain't that bullshit?

dude..i can go on saying that some of your artists ain't exactly the most entertaining and blah blah...you find THEM boring..it's your problem,deal with it..i have respect for an artists work enough,not to call them "all those metaphors that once sounded(hip)in the 80's but got as stale as the person using them".

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 00:33am


Respect is not freely given, it is earned. If William (or anyone else on this board) feels an artist has not earned his respect, then he's free to disrespect that artist in front of God, the congregation, and everyone.

Posted by Kit on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 02:29am


ok i have come to the conclusion that you either love or hate bon jovi, there is no inbetween. and thats fine cause the lovers will never convince the haters and the haters will never convice the lovers. we all have different tastes in music....film....food...sports...everything but thats what makes this world what it is, wouldnt it be borning if we all liked the same things. but it does make for an intersting read on this borad lol

BON JOVI FOREVER

Posted by jackie on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 04:20am


No, I'm being entirely objective when I say that his innovation is nonexistant and his influence relatively small. If you want to argue against that as opposed to this touchy-feely "everyone has an opinion and opinions can't be wrong" garbage, then list some things Bon Jovi did that no band or artist before him accomplished, and then list some bands that he inspired. I can think of a couple of the latter (not enough, I think, for induction), but of the former...nothing.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 12:17pm


William,get your "he" and "they" facts straing,then maybe we can argue.
who are you talking about here jon bon jovi or the band itself?..
okay let me start the first point:

01. when i said 5 bands better than jovi,i MEANT 5 bands of their own genre(glam/hard rock)..not some punk/alternate/REGGAE!!(bad brains)or a metal(metallica)band.

02 when you compare the bands similar to jovi,most of them went downhill in the 90's,whereas this band were still making some GREAT music and YES,SELLING MILLIONS OF RECORDS,they still do,where's your talk talk now,huh?..10 years and vanished.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 12:27pm


and talking about inspiration,here are a few artist's who claim to have bon jovi as one of their inspiration:

SALIVA
NICKELBACK
HOOBASTANK
COLDPLAY
BOWLING FOR SOUP
THE ALL AMERICAN REJECTS
THE GOO GOO DOLLS
MIKE SHINODA&BRAD DELSON(LINKIN PARK)....

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 12:37pm


Bon Jovi definitely deserves to be in the HOF. Not only have they had commercial success for 3 decades, they have also sold out many arenas and stadiums in many continents, and they did create the MTV Unplugged series. Sure, Bon Jovi isn't the most influential band of all-time, and they didn't create a genre of music. But what they have done is change genres (from "glam-rock" (SWW, NJ) to "grunge" (TD) to contemporary rock (Crush, Bounce, HAND) and now to "country" (Lost Highway)) They have reinvented themselves over three decades to stay relevant, and many people on these boards are going to say that they've done that to "sell-out." And the flaw in that belief is that many bands have changed their genre to stay relevant, U2 comes to mind. And to the person who compared Bon Jovi to a utility infielder in Baseball, that is incorrect. Bon Jovi would be like someone who hit for a career average of .300 and over 500 homeruns. So yes, Bon Jovi does deserve to be in the HOF, and I know people will disagree with this, and I'm sure there are some bands that I disagree with their induction into the Hall. But for surviving through the eightees, and staying relevant in Rock music today, Bon Jovi is completely deserving of being inducted into the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Eric on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 12:45pm


Eric,damn right!
but the new album ain't country...if ya listen to it,it's rock with a pinch of country...just like the band said..bon jovi record with a nashville influence to it.
but well said!

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 12:47pm


bon jovi is the best band eva!!! they automatcally belong in the hall of fame. jon is just the greatest singer eva!!! i first started like bon jovi back in 2000 when i waz 9 years old, i wanna thank my mom because she got me into bon jovi and since then they been my favorite band and jon bon jovi been my favorite singer. so i say 100% yes bon jovi should be in the hall of fame

Posted by kerriann on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:03pm


"01. when i said 5 bands better than jovi,i MEANT 5 bands of their own genre(glam/hard rock)..not some punk/alternate/REGGAE!!(bad brains)or a metal(metallica)band."

The maybe you should try SAYING what you mean instead of getting pissy because people can't read your mind. You said '80s, not glam, and if you want just glam, then try looking about 10 years before Bon Jovi appeared. Glam was old news by the time they came around. It had been done and done better.

"02 when you compare the bands similar to jovi,most of them went downhill in the 90's,whereas this band were still making some GREAT music and YES,SELLING MILLIONS OF RECORDS,they still do,where's your talk talk now,huh?..10 years and vanished."

First off, I never mentioned Talk Talk. Second, the Hall's two primary qualifiers are "influence and innovation." Selling records and touring for X years isn't a part of that. The Rolling Stones are still around, but no one really cares about anything they've done lately compared to their early work. Similarly, the Beatles weren't around for very long at all, but they accomplished more than talentles shits like Bon Jovi could ever hope for.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:17pm


hah now will's down to slangs eh...
influence and innovation,right...jovi has done it,you just happen to hate them..oh and i included talk talk,cause you happen to like them...

and isn't longevity a part of influence,many bands(included the artist mentioned above,they praise bands like jovi,aerosmith,stones for such longevity..23 years in the brute music business ain't no walk in the park..1984-still going strong..which once again talk talk could never achieve)and watch your mouth.."talentless",richie sambora can play the guitar just fine,there's a reason why guys..legends like eric clapton and bob dylan have something good to say about BON JOVI.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:31pm


I've already asked you how he innovated. Explain it.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:34pm


He, they, whatever.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:34pm


INNOVATION:
"they",inspired the concept of the whole unplugged series,sure many artist had done acoustic shows before,but when richie and jon came to the stage,they blew everyone away with their CLASSIC stripped down,acoustic performance,thereby inspiring mtv unplugged,which has later been graced by the presence of various artists.

the guys were not the first band in this world?...what do you expect them to innovate anything else,rock music??

they were amongst the first rock group to play in once before soviet union,russia.

they bagged a great comeback after a five year hiatus,with crush,grabbing a whole new generation of fans.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:41pm


He, they, whatever.-William

this statement of your's,my friend proves that you're just arguing for sheer nonsense,you lack the facts to argue about a certain artist,and yet,you take cheap shots,cause you don't happen to like them.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:43pm


Creating a TV show based on doing something that people had been doing since the dawn of music is not innovation. Their sound and approach was formulaic in the extreme. Nothing they did musically hadn't been done before. That's why they're 0 for nothing when it comes to innovation. And influence-wise, the only bands they influenced are also formulaic, and they're not really being inspired by Bon Jovi's sound so much as their approach which dates back the '60s.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:47pm


"He, they, whatever.-William

this statement of your's,my friend proves that you're just arguing for sheer nonsense,you lack the facts to argue about a certain artist,and yet,you take cheap shots,cause you don't happen to like them."

I was making fun of you throwing a shitfit because I said "he" when I meant "they." And you're doing it again.

Posted by Wo;;oa, on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:48pm


oh i'm sorry,i forgot innovation and influence include a song by a synth pop group covered by a pop band.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:51pm


so will,you have the habit of posting under various user names to prove your point,nice.
hey that;'s count as innovation..maybe they'll consider that for talk talk too...

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:52pm


I hit the wrong buttons and didn't notice.

Does it matter?

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:53pm


hey buddy,just a "shitfit"...
and you didn't answer to my bob dylan and eric clapton comment...

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:55pm


I don't know what your obsession with Talk Talk is considering I never mentioned them.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:55pm


it goes both ways my friend..you take a cheap shot towards one of my favorite band,so will i..
and please..don't reply with a "copycat" tag...that'll just make this conversation even more boring.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:57pm


"hey buddy,just a "shitfit"...
and you didn't answer to my bob dylan and eric clapton comment..."

My respect for Dylan doesn't make every word that comes out of his mouth gold-plated truth. I've already explained why musically, they were not innovative at all. They were over a decade too late to be innovative.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:58pm


Talk Talk is not one of my favorite bands. Nice try.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 13:59pm


so finally you admit,they did the best they could at that time and succeeded at doing what was available(inspiring a hit tv show included).
as i said they are not the one of the first rock band in this world..or of the 80's..def leppard and crue,they already started(with a bang),the glam rock scene before jovi's debut..bon jovi blended in perfectly,and were able to survive,and are still around to talk about it.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:02pm


Def Leppard and Motley Crue were also late to glam. Try T. Rex or Bowie.

And no, there were other band in the '80s actually innovating, as in doing things that hadn't quite been done before. Bon Jovi was never trying to do these things because they just wanted stardom.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:05pm


Bon Jovi was never trying to do these things because they just wanted stardom.- which artist doesn't want stardom?...they'll be fool to say "oh stardom sucks,i'll do it for the fans"...it's a damn music business not some social service or charity,if an artist doesn't gain stardom,from where will the masses around the world will be able to listen to that respective artist.think about it,stardom=money(no doubt) BUT also massive promotion,isn't that good?...you're being promoted around the world..attracting new audiences who like and respect your work.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:09pm


If you want to turn art into business, maybe. But no, not every band cares about fame first. If you do a little research, you'd see how few "famous" bands actually become rich. Most of them just make their labels rich and then get thrown away.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:12pm


and william,for the record,bon jovi,during their recent world tour(in many of the places),let the local(unsigned)artist open for them..to give them an opportunity to make it big someday...

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:13pm


And? I don't really care if a band is signed or not. I don't care if they've "made it" or not. I like bands on both sides of this because it's not important. What is important is the sound, its innovation, and the band's influence on music as a whole. While Bon Jovi was busy playing decade-old glam rock, Talk Talk and friends were busy inventing a genre that's becoming fairly widespread today.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:17pm


William said:Most of them just make their labels rich and then get thrown away

exactly,bon jovi made polygram loads of money,but they knew when not to "sell-out" to the label,hell they even fired their manager doc mcghee,cause he was turning the band into a money making machine...mcghee,in early 90's,sent bon jovi for a mtv lifetime achievement award(clearly for money+ratings),from which the band was very displeased,they fired him and took control of their own management...def leppard on the other hand,they were under the management who was managing RHCP simultaneously,as a result,the leps were not doing as well as they should be,while RHCP was tasting a fair amount of success..on the other hand,jovi,the controllers of their own management,achieved tremendous amount of success with keep the faith and their later 90's album did pretty well.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:20pm


And? I don't really care if a band is signed or not. I don't care if they've "made it" or not. I like bands on both sides of this because it's not important. What is important is the sound, its innovation, and the band's influence on music as a whole. While Bon Jovi was busy playing decade-old glam rock, Talk Talk and friends were busy inventing a genre that's becoming fairly widespread today.-william

so,i ask you again,where the fuck is talk talk now,why don't they come back and re-invent some new cool synth style genre??as it's so famous...maybe they should come back and "re-invent"music again,yeah right.
and a pretty good job there ignoring the "let unsigned bands open for jovi part"...your talk talk's could never ever do that...

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:23pm


The only reason I used Talk Talk in my example was because you kept hammering on about them. Maybe I should have used the Melvins, or Sonic Youth, or Dinosaur Jr., or any of the other bands on my above list that are still around. Not that that matters by itself. As I said, the Stones have been around for a while, but they stopped innovating a long time ago. Same with Metallica. Those three, however, do continue to innovate and "stay relevant." Letting small bands open for you doesn't matter. It's good for publicity, but that's it.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:38pm


publicity,yeah right...they are sharing some of their hard earned stardom with these new kids...seriously,where will you see an audience of 50,000+ people for a new unsigned band?

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:44pm


And that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR MUSIC. Maybe it's a nice gesture. Maybe they're swell guys for doing it. That has no effect on their sound.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:51pm


innovation,you started it.

of course they're constantly experimenting with their sound since 2000's they have regularly experimented with their music,some were good,other's were okay...the band is evolving.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:54pm


How is letting other bands open for you innovation? Explain it to me.

I just think it's funny when you say they're "evolving." Yeah, they change their sounds, but they never actually experiment. They're going down the checklist of tried-and-true sounds. The Beatles, on the other hand, at least had the courage to look at what the lesser-known experimental groups of their time were doing and try a little of it themselves. They didn't wait until ten years later when it was safe.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 14:59pm


the hell are you talking about,keep the faith,released in 92 was totally different from their usual 80's sound...and at that time,either it was up or down for them...it was a big experiment,which was successful

these days,released in 95,blues influenced album,95..experiment,successful album!

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 15:02pm


innovation: let the newer unsigned bands open for you,they get spotted,and one day become excellent musicians and actually help the industry.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 15:05pm


Blues-rock is something that's been done since the '50s. Hardly cutting-edge. They tried something different FOR THEM, but not something new. That's why they're not innovative. They never tried something new or experimental.

And letting bands open for you is not innovation. Innovation refers to thing you do with your own sound. You're sort of thinking of influence, but even that isn't right.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 15:10pm


so...what do they do..start making hip-hop?,blues was certainly not invented by the beatles either...

jeez..man,you're really here to make jovi look bad..no matter what..but anyways..with the amount of comments that i've mentioned here,they fortify my final verdict:BON JOVI,AMONGST THE GREAT.

so long.

Posted by jaskaran on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 15:14pm


"so...what do they do..start making hip-hop?"

They could have experimented and actually tried something new. Instead they did more of what they'd already done: Take a sound that was made popular decades before and imitate it.

The Beatles didn't invent a lot of stuff, but most of the things they did were fairly new. If they'd come along around 1985 and done the exact same thing, however, it wouldn't have been experimental at that point.

I'm not trying to make Bon Jovi look bad. Lots of bands made enjoyable music that wasn't innovative or influential. But get this: I'm not trying to argue that they should be in the hall because being "enjoyable" has nothing to do with it. Selling records has nothing to do with it. Innovating and influencing have everything to do with it.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.19.07 @ 16:36pm


William is on target...Bon Jovi innovated nothing....it was more of the same "glam rock." Sure some of it was listenable and certainly popular, but it lacked substance....it was certainly a breath of fresh air when bands like Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana "took over" in the early 90's to provide something with a bit more substance (Yes, that got old too, but I liked much more). I was never a big fan of Leppard, Jovi, Crue, etc. It was just too cheesy for me...gimmicky. That part is only my opinion.

However, the part that is essentially a fact is that Bon Jovi was not very different at all and was influential minimally. That does not mean that they were not popular and lacked talent, it just means that they were "more of the same"...thus, not really HOF material....

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, 05.20.07 @ 15:07pm


GEEEEEZZZZZZZ, jaskaran .......why is it now matter where you go, you have a habit of starting shit !!!!!! What A LOSER........

BTW, WHO CARES WEATHER THEY GET IN OR NOT, DO YOU REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA CHANGE THEIR WORLD.....I THNIK NOT........H.A.N.D

Posted by OBFGBA on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 03:50am


how am i supposed to react to this comment by some immature grown up woman(apparently who was supposed to get banned)from the boards(message boards)who doesn't even have the guts to post HER own name..

"BTW, WHO CARES WEATHER THEY GET IN OR NOT, DO YOU REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA CHANGE THEIR WORLD.....I THNIK NOT"-La..oh i mean OBFGBA...then why the hell did you vote for bon jovi?(and that too "yes")..the counters can be seen on this site's homepage..smartass..nice try..next time,stick to your hello's and nothing else.

Posted by jaskaran on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 05:52am


Well, I was one of the first to comment before this turned into a longwinded debate. My opinion remains essentially unchanged. Bon Jovi will get in because very few bands can match their enduring worldwide popularity. That's pretty much the end of the story. Whether they deserve to be so popular, that's a tougher question. I enjoy some of their tunes ("Wanted Dead or Alive" - doesn't everyone like that one?), but I find many of them to be cheesy and derivative ("Always" - ugh!). Also, I find the oft-cited (on this thread) claim that BJ invented Unplugged to be dubious at best. Nonetheless, staying on the charts and selling out arenas for nearly a quarter-century is no small feat, and can't be just because of teenage girls. Inducting Bon Jovi will certainly bring the Hall more attention than inducting a more influential but less famous band, i.e. The Stooges. So in conclusion, BJ is a step behind the great bands of their era (REM, U2, Chili Peppers), but they're good enough to get in the Hall.

Posted by A-Killa on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 08:40am


Big Bon Jovi fan here...Do i care if they get in the hall of fame or not...No! As long as they carrying on making new material thats fresh and reliable as it always has been with Bon Jovi and carrying on touring, providing thier many, many fans with amazing nights thats all that matters to me...as long as they continue doing this i could'nt give 2 s#*ts if they get in the music hall of fame. some of you say that mainstream influance shouldnt be a factor, but isnt creating a hall of fame in the 1st a bit mainstream anyway???

Posted by Rhys on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 09:07am


"making new material thats fresh and reliable"

...why start now?

Posted by Kit on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 15:31pm


They DESERVE this!!!

Posted by Debbie on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 15:31pm


Bon Jovi is by far deserving to be in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame!!! They are INCREDIBLY TALENTED!!! Don't let Jon's gorgeous face make you think for one second that he is not one of the most talented entertainers, song writer, singer that ever walked the planet!!! ..and THAT IS A FACT!! Bon Jovi is positive!!! they aren't whacked out on drugs, and are REAL!!!! Bon Jovi 4 freakin' ever!

Posted by Jonnie33 on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 15:39pm


I am not going to get into a pi**ing match . If you like them great if you don't fine.We should let facts and statistics speak for themselves.
I just want to know where the person that said Slippery When Wet was the first album got that information from. LOL come on . Can we say NOT !! Did we forget a couple of albums before that ? hmmmmmm

Posted by B on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 16:06pm


Bon Jovi has always been an underdog in the critics eyes as far as i'm concerned. Unfortunately so, for their music since day one IMO, for the most part has been uplifting, inspiring, and undeniablly well written, well played, and just honestly a well-rounded force to be reckoned with in the music world. Richie Sambora, in the minds of fellow guitarists is unquestionalably a well respected musician, and David on the keys, well...seriously, go listen to some of their unreleased material such as Dry County(sheer, and utter brilliance)....Tico, phenominal percussionist, and Jon, oh Jon.....let's for a moment try to take the superficial, shallow factor out of this debate , and forget Jon is easy on the eyes, his pipes are amazing, his stage presence, and the way he works, and posseses his crowd is simply spectacular. The band should get in the RRHOF just for their LIVE performance abilities alone. Hmmmmm.....how many artists out there have mentioned they aspire to command their LIVE audience as Jovi does? For those of you here who have actually taken in one of their concerts, seriously....have you ever experienced a more rockin' concert? One that you leave out of there feeling good, wanting more, and like you've had the best workout ever? I had always heard about the finale JOVI show at the Giants Stadium was magical....there has to be something said about one guy, a little guy at that(Jon) on a stage, and getting I'd say 95% of the crowds hands up in the air clapping at the same time well into 2 hours of the show.The energy was indescribable, and believe me, i've been to many a RocknRoll show through my 20plus years of appreciating LIVE musical performances. Like I said before, the LIVE performance factor alone is enough to warrant them in.... As someone else said though,
I honestly could care less whether or not they are invited in....as long as they keep writing, composing, perorming their music LIVE, that's all i care about. It would be a nice nod for the guys though, i think...

Posted by LaLaLa on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 16:16pm


How can they not be? They have 3 generations of fans who know the love their songs. Some critics are still stuck in the 80's, but THE PEOPLE have spoken by their actions. Bon Jovi sells out stores to stadiums.
"Wanted" IS the ballad of Rock & Roll.

Posted by Gia on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 16:40pm


They are the best Rock Band!! They stood the test of time!!! Rock on Bon Jovi!!

Posted by Gloria on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 18:58pm


Fans spanning 3 generations
concerts still selling out worldwide
already considered influential enough to be inducted into the British HOF
sold over 100million albums
very few bands with a greater world wide fan base

how can people say they haven't been influential?
Most of the negative tripe I've read here has been posted by those who obviously don't like BJ but that has little to do with the facts. Listing other bands considered more influential is just personal opinion, saying BJ don't change/try new things is wrong: unplugged, This Left feels Right, now country influenced. They are a band who have successfully navigated their way through the changes in the music scene and have managed to not only keep their fan base but have it grow. I can't think of another band who would deserve induction into the HOF more.

Posted by Dmister on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 19:19pm


I am probably going to regret this but Do you get a free gram of crack when you buy a Bon Jovi album? I have never seen anything like it. Enough already! Okay Bon Jovi fans I give up and I was totally wrong about the average boring remark. Bon Jovi should be in the Hall along with Boston, Kansas, Journey, Skid Row and Def Leppard. They are a great innovative bands and I am a complete dumb**s for thinking otherwise.

Posted by PJ on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 19:48pm


I forgot to include Foreigner and Poison in my list. They are also great artists just like Bon Jovi!

Posted by PJ on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 20:04pm


"how can people say they haven't been influential?"-Dmister

Because selling a lot of records to people does not necessarily mean you're influencing other bands (which is what "influence" means in this context)to imitate or draw upon your sound. The public is made up of a lot of people who aren't musicians, and the two groups do not always coincide. Only a handful of bands were cited above that claim to be influenced by Bon Jovi, but for most of them, there isn't even a hint of the sound.

"saying BJ don't change/try new things is wrong: unplugged, This Left feels Right, now country influenced."-Dmister

I've already explained this. Trying something "new" for you is not the same as innovation, which is trying something that has never been done before. Other bands do acoustic work. Other bands play country. It's not "innovation" to do something that has already been done.

Fanboys are nuts.

Posted by William on Monday, 05.21.07 @ 23:03pm


I thought I was bad with with Rush....there is nothing innovative about BJ. Playing acoustic guitar you think is innovative???? For that statement alone it demonstrates what the phrase "biased" means and to lack objectivity with regards to your favorite band. There is nothing new about that at all...

Selling a gazillion records is not the criteria for hall induction. I recently saw that the band "A-ha" has sold 75 million albums worldwide (shocking to me too) - I guess all of these BJ fans would want them in too since they sold so many freakin albums....In any case, No to BJ...

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 06:28am


I strongly oppose BJ going to HOF. They are far from inspirational. Some catchy pop hits sure, but that's just about all.

Record sales. Sure, they keep on selling. Even if they release total crap (as they do) their loyal fanbase who grew up with them buys it all.

Posted by SD on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 07:27am


BTW, Country influences and crap like that: they're just desperately trying to find new audience (or in fact new people who would buy them.) Bubble has bursted among rockfans, BJ has been cosidered as a joke for years. So since they're not gaining new audience from rock oriented people, they go country. Who knows what next.

Posted by SD on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 07:33am


"they're just desperately trying to find new audience"-SD..btw are you amongst the jackasses who have been a WHORE fan of some of their stuff(or the 80's) and now you think that jovi sold out just cause they couldn't cater to your taste..

Posted by jaskaran on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 08:26am


jaskaran, look whos talking about whoring. Im am a rockfan. I aint whoring my taste in music to adore has-beens like BJ who simple can't cook up a decent rock song anymore. I bet if they'd release an album full of hiphop, u'd adore them because it is BJ and it must be great.

Posted by SD on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 08:31am


"I bet if they'd release an album full of hiphop, u'd adore them because it is BJ and it must be great."-SD
BEEP!!....wrong answer chump...i'd hate it if they ever release a hip-hop cd...and the only reason i'm defending this band is cause i've listen to almost the entire new album..and it is pretty good...

joke?..wtf..they've been making some pretty decent music..are you a rolling stone magazine reader?

and look at def leppard..they totally switched to pop(not popular..BUT POP)with song's long long way to go...what do you expect a SWW 2 from bon jovi every time?...i'm glad that they don't do that..it would be so stale and boring to hear the same old stuff in every record..
you don't listen to them anymore..good..your choice man..btw what else do you listen to?

Posted by jaskaran on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 08:35am


"Country... they're just desperately trying to find new audience...Bubble has bursted among rockfans.."

No Shit!! How irritating is it to see a rock/pop act make some bullshit, cheesey just "Country" flavored enough piece of bromide turd of a song so thatt they can stripmine the gullibles in the country buying world? Wooo! Impressive! Now BJ and the others like them can boast that they are so universally lovable that they cannot be contained in the pop-rock world - their charm knows no bounds! They have a "crossover" hit; even the country knuckleheds love 'em!

What a crock of shit.

The BJ church will always praise whatever Jon and Co. squeeze out of their poop chutes.

Posted by shawn mc on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 09:20am


Def Leppard huh? Quite approppriate pick, just about only band that has screwed up their rock status worse that ur precious BJ.

U find new album quite good huh? Yeah, if u like meaningless boring pop it could be all good.

And what do I listen to? Just about everything. From classical to darkest of metal, and everything inbetween. But what does that have got to do with new BJ being crap? :-p

Posted by SD on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 09:25am


well SD actually i was just trying to be friendly..but with your reply..pfft

dude you find them boring..your fucking problem...
by the way,you'll love the new album..they're repressing SWW new jersey 7800 and bon jovi every other day...so go have fun.

Posted by jaskaran on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 10:15am


No Shit!! How irritating is it to see a rock/pop act make some bullshit, cheesey just "Country" flavored enough piece of bromide turd of a song so thatt they can stripmine the gullibles in the country buying world? Wooo! Impressive! Now BJ and the others like them can boast that they are so universally lovable that they cannot be contained in the pop-rock world - their charm knows no bounds! They have a "crossover" hit; even the country knuckleheds love 'em!

What a crock of shit.

The BJ church will always praise whatever Jon and Co. squeeze out of their poop chutes.-shawn mc

I dont know what is more useless.This comment or the very person who posted it.

Since when did this thread turned into mr. shawn mc's likes and dislikes.You hate them.Give a valuable opinion instead of just posting your mentality.

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 10:56am


There is no doubt that Bon Jovi deserve to be inducted.IMO: any band that can continously sell out stadiums after 20+ years together desrves some kind of reward, don't they? The fan base alone is in the millions, and I'm certain that they can produce a strong and organized outcry if they want to.

Posted by Kathy on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 11:51am


Again, those arguments are just cop-outs when "innovation and influence" are nowhere to be found.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 12:20pm


William:
Again, those arguments are just cop-outs when "innovation and influence" are nowhere to be found.
Absolutely true William.Just look at Shawn mc's comment.Dull and uncreative criticism are all part of his comment.

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 12:38pm


you know, whether or not a band 'deserves' to be indicted into the RRHOF, does'nt really matter does it, from what i've seen, read, and heard it's ALL a political, fore-play party leading up getting in anyway is'nt it? Jon and Co. are'nt use to kissing ass, and I'm sure they know what "IT" takes to be inducted in-If it were soley on a band's merits, quite a few would've already been inducted in,IMO- Who cares, Bon Jovi does'nt, it's hard to argue success when you have the hard, cold facts, and figures to look at- Bon Jovi does'nt need an induction to prove their success at what they do-

Posted by LaLaLa on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 13:45pm


jovi are one of the most loved bands around the owrl they appeal to everybody of all ages. Nobody that can say they still sell out stadiums like they have done for 25 years

Posted by Lisa on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 13:49pm


Absolutely - I've grown up with this band. What they play through their music is what we all felt growing as individuals. Their music has inspired a generation and as they still rock new generations to come! They are so deserving of this honor!

Posted by Marsha Gruberman on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 14:02pm


130,000,000 millions records, albums or CD's SOLD and still counting? I WOULD SAY YES THEY SHOULD BE THERE!!! BONJOVI FOREVER!!

Posted by Nina on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 14:30pm


bon jovi is my favorite band. there music has brought me out of depression and made me have faith. i love their music with such a strong passion. and i love all of the bandmates [especally JON] ;D

they MUST be in the Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame.
they defanitly deserve it.

Posted by Cassie on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 14:53pm


I don't have flukes as favorite, I have been a fan of this band for 20 years, and yes I have certainly been fickle enough with my "crushes" or heroes for that matter but I never steered away from Jovi. I loved the songs I heard on the radio back in 86 I had NO CLUE who they were, what they looked like etc...when I actually saw a pic of them I thought they looked "freaky". After listening to the songs hit number one etc over (Prayer and Bad Name took turns who was in the #1 spot for 16 weeks in our chartc in Norway back then)and then finally got to listen to the SWW album. It took some time but it grew on me and never let go..at the end of that month I bought the album (November 86) it was the first thing I listened to in the morning and the last one I listened to at night. Jovi music as been a companion of mine ever since, image changes, looks, style changes whatever, to listen to these boys is like having a long time friend. THAT is what Jovi is to me, and I think over 100 000 000 album's sold worldwide..I am certainly NOT alone feeling this way (new and old fans probably feel this way too) THIS is why I vote for them to be in the future Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame. They fully deserve it.

Posted by Maryann on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 15:32pm


Hasbeens? Their last tour was their most successful ever.
Desperately trying to attract fans by going country? they decided to do the country flavored album after the (surprise) success of Who Says. They did not/are not chasing success in the country market it came to them.

Posted by DLK on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 15:34pm


Whoever is using other peoples names just to insult or intimidate them is a sorry person. This is to post/and or discuss people views on who should be inducted into the RRHOF. Just because somebody disagrees with your choices does not give you the right to falsely use their posting names and pretend you are them. It's sick and twisted or the work of a small child who can't beyond see their own limited views. People are going to disagree and it would be a pretty boring site if everybody had the exact same opinion. You ruin it for everybody. If you don't like something use your own name and state your point. Some will agree, some will disagree, some will make snide remarks but that is how ADULTS discuss different opinions. GROW UP!

Posted by PJ on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 16:26pm


They are one of the classic, greatest rock bands of all time. Over 100,000,000 Albums sold. Still selling out arena's and stadiums around the globe. After all these years-not many bands can claim that. Their longevity and ability to transcend various musical genres-speaks for itself.

Posted by Carole on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 17:07pm


They definitely deserve to be inducted. They are one of the classic, greatest rock bands of all time. Over 100,000,000 albums sold. Still selling out arena's and stadiums around the globe. They've successfully been able to transcend various musical genre's. Their longevity speaks for itself. Not many bands can claim that.

Posted by Carole on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 17:37pm


"They did not/are not chasing success in the country market it came to them."

Sorry DLK, but I just don't buy that. Country is enjoying a wave of hipness right now, corny and melodramatic and goofy as it is, and I just think Bon Jovi is trying to capatilize on that fad.

Posted by Shawn Mc on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 20:10pm


"I dont know what is more useless.This comment or the very person who posted it.
Since when did this thread turned into mr. shawn mc's likes and dislikes.You hate them.Give a valuable opinion instead of just posting your mentality."

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 10:56am

Hey Anon,

This wasn't really you, was it? It was whatever juvenile is impersonating others, yes?

Posted by Shawn Mc on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 20:16pm


First I must say any musician that writes there own songs and play the instruments and have been around for 20+ yrs and Selling over 120 Million Albums deserve to be inducted. There are obvously people out there buying there albums. Next The Band Has already been inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame In Europe.Last Yr. They were The second or third largest grossing tour. and they only played half of the shows they normally do. Who says you can't go home was #1 on The rock and country charts. They were the first rock band to ever win a country award. They also Won a Grammy. I can guarantee this. They are no where near done showing the world what they have to offer. I predict in the next 10 yrs. they will reach 200million albums sold. if not close to it. Also. there new single want to make a memory. Has sold over 530,000 copies in less than a week on i tunes. The album hasn't even been released. I wont bash any other artists. Because Its not easy to get where they are today. They've worked very hard. They Deserve it. Last but not least there concerts speak for it all..

Posted by Ryan on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 20:24pm


Bon Jovi is one of the most successful bands of all time. The will take their rightful place int the Hall of Fame!

Posted by Jersey Girl on Tuesday, 05.22.07 @ 22:05pm


"First I must say any musician that writes there own songs and play the instruments and have been around for 20+ yrs and Selling over 120 Million Albums deserve to be inducted."-Ryan

How many bands write their own songs and play instruments? That's almost unheard of!

The 20+ years arguments is stupid and arbitrary. If anything, it only enhances the fact that they never innovated. Again, taking your band in a "new direction" that countless other bands have already tried and made safe is not innovation. Similarly, selling tons of albums to people who aren't musicians doesn't prove influence. Most of the people who buy Bon Jovi albums aren't starting bands. What they listen to could not matter any less.

I love the comment about the Grammy Awards, as if anyone takes that seriously.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 00:18am


I think it is funny how people are "stealing" others names and posting with that....I am Anon, whatever the fuck that means. I am the Rush fan Anon. Anyway, these BJ fans can't figure out the difference between commercial success and influence / innovation....YES, BJ HAS SOLD A GAZILLION ALBUMS. HOWEVER,, THEY ARE NOT VERY INFLUENTIAL AT ALL IN SHAPING ROCK MUSIC. THEY ARE ALSO NOT VERY ORIGINAL...PLAYING POP COUNTRY MUSIC IS INNOVATIVE....YOU EVER HEAR OF GARTH BROOKS....no to BJ for the hall.

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 01:34am


They are one of the best band ever,example how many bands today are seling biggest stadiums,not many aaaaaaa.And song are real songs,not some diprasure songs.If u2 desrve then BON JOVI should must deserve it 10 years ago:)..

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 01:45am


And how many rock band from 80s sold more than 120 mil albums!!!!!they very deserve it!!!!

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 01:59am


What the hell does "diprasure" mean?

The difference between U2 and Bon Jovi is astronomical. Even though I can't stand any album past Achtung Baby (in addition to my almost pure hatred for Bono), they're much more influential than Bon Jovi will ever be. Once again, the fact that you can pack a stadium full of people WHO ARE NOT MUSICIANS does not prove influence AMONG MUSICIANS, which is what the Rock Hall cares about. If they're not influencing other musicians to copy their sound, then they are not influential. If they're not doing something that has never been done before, they're not innovative. Get over it.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 02:40am


It's about time they got recognised for their great amaaaaaaaazingly talentedness!!! Saying that, they did make it into our hall of fame over here in the UK but still, they deserve tonnes more recognition!! Go Jovi!!!

Posted by Dayna on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 03:31am


William, you dont have a clue what music is all about!!!!!!!!!!!Go to a concert and you will see who
rocks.u2 have sold 150 mil and bon jovi 120 mil.i dont see any difference.i saw u2 and bon jovi and i could tell you that bon jovi have better show!I also like u2.Just for information HAND tour was third tour last year,u2 was 4:).Read little bit more what is going on around the world.

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 05:23am


.............And peoples know BONO just becouse he is some kind a "peacemaker" or "preacher",almost politican!!!!!20 year same preacher stuff and i start to hate it!!!!Thats why u2 are so influence!!!!!!!!!

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 05:31am


"PLAYING POP COUNTRY MUSIC IS INNOVATIVE"-Anonymous
pop country?...yea right.

Posted by jaskaran on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 07:25am


kleman,
You a love the Bon Jovi there in Europe - understood. But do you think you could manage to proffer an argument more substantial than just wearing this grimy, sweat stained t-shirt for the hundredth time?:

"u2 have sold 150 mil and bon jovi 120 mil.i dont see any difference."

You see, just repeating the same montra over and over again does not a discussion make. It makes you seem thick and witless and unwilling to understand William's (and other's) persistent, unvarying, very clear point that "SOLD ---- MILLION" IS NOT PERTINENT TO HALL OF FAME INDUCTION"!!! Innovation and influence are the hallmarks.

You are saying, "This goes to Eleven!"
William is saying, "That is silly. Why not just make Ten louder?"
You keep saying, "Well, this goes to Eleven."

Stop it.

Posted by Shawn Mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 08:54am


jaskaran say:
"the 80's..def leppard and crue,they already started...bon jovi blended in perfectly.."

bon jovi blended in perfectly
bon jovi blended in perfectly
bon jovi blended in perfectly
bon jovi blended in
bon jovi blended in
bon jovi blended in
blended in
blended in
blended in perfectly
blended in perfectly

Precisely.

Posted by Shawn Mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 09:03am


ok!i dont think that def leppard and crue started!!!it is not the same music!BJ have 15 top ten hits.......soooooo it is not the same!!!!!Today it is a lot of bands influence by BJ.Bon jovi songs mean something.I am not just bon jovi fan,i like all kind of rock music.
artist's who claim to have bon jovi as inspiration
-NICKELBACK
-MATCHBOX 20
-COLDPLAY
-GOO GOO DOLLS

iF BON JOVI DOES NOT DESERVE HALL OF FAME, I DONT KNOW WHO DOES!!!!

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 09:18am


don't worry kleman..just a whiner..he noticed my blended in post..but forgot this "they did the best they could at that time"...seriously shawn mc..what could have they invented then..music?..using guitars in music..pfft

Posted by jaskaran on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 09:26am


OK jaskaran,

I'm going to throw you a bone, you ragged dog, and actually help your cause by playing the Devil's advocate and showing you a way you might make a case for your feather haired boys in BJ.
This is from the R&R Hall of Fame's website, under "Induction Ceremony and Process":

"-Criteria include the influence and significance of the artist’s contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll.-"

Perhaps another poster can show you an additional citation that stresses a more stringent set of requirements, but that one I gave you above has always seemd pretty broad, pretty inclusive. Words like "significance" and "the perpetuation of rock and roll" can mean, subjectively, just about anything.

You COULD make the argument that Bon Jovi did sufficiently contribute to the perpetuation of rock by virtue of their longevity and the love of their fanbase - of which you certainly are a model. Hell, an argument could be made for Kiss and Def Lepard by that wildly lenient bouncer.

You could argue that, by the standards noted above, the two "I's" - Influence and Innovation are being given too much weight by your adversaries.
You could.... if you weren't such a myopic chunk of styrofoam.

*Note: I personally reserve my own judgment on the worthiness of Bon Jovi. May the music gods forgive me.

Posted by Shawn Mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 10:10am


shawn mc..that's quite heartfelt from you..i ain't gonna waste my time replying to you..just scroll upwards.

Posted by jaskaran on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 10:14am


"i ain't gonna waste my time replying to you.."

That's too bad jaskaran - you could help your cause for Bon Jovi by taking the position that they have earned the reward of a Hall pass by fortifying American Rock worldwide, and thereby "contributing to (its) perpetuation". This, regardless of how groundbreaking musically their critics scoff.

You could.... if you weren't more concerned with gnashing your teeth at me. :)

Posted by shawn mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 10:33am


DUDE! WTF? You could also help your credibility by laying off of the maniacal ballot box stuffing you keep toiling at with the Bon Jovi vote.
It's right there to our left to behold.
What is wrong with you?

Posted by shawn mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 11:20am


"Yes".

Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 11:35am


DUDE! WTF? You could also help your credibility by laying off of the maniacal ballot box stuffing you keep toiling at with the Bon Jovi vote.
It's right there to our left to behold.
What is wrong with you?


THANK YOU! THANK YOU! It's been irritating me for days.

Posted by PJ on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 11:56am


There are people who are actually voting for Bon Jovi.
No need to get surprised.

Posted by Geoffrey on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 12:19pm


Actually did anyone ever think those votes might be real.Word went out on the net about voting for Bon Jovi at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.That is why I am here.i vote yes they deserve to be in.


Bon Jovi took a genre of music polished it up made the choruses bigger. This music exploded worldwide.No one knew it would ever be this big.
Bon Jovi commercialized rock and roll and made it okay for mainstream radio stations to play rock of any genre.

~Moscow Music Peace first concert of its kind in the U.S.S.R
~Bon Jovi one of first bands to refuse to lip sync on live talk shows.
~MTV 's Unplugged was influenced by Jon and Richie
~Bon Jovi first artist to close Times Square for perfomance on Letterman
~First artist to perform on the rooftop of Ed Sullivan's theater too.
~ First Rock Band to debut number 1 on the country charts.


Posted by jovifan on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 12:26pm


About Bon Jovi, jovifan wrote:
Actually did anyone ever think those votes might be real.

No, not in my worst nighmare!

Posted by PJ on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 12:43pm


PJ:
"No, not in my worst nighmare!"

"They are a great innovative bands and I am a complete dumb**s for thinking otherwise."

Hey PJ looks like you've recently had a change of opinion towards Bon Jovi.

Why so if I may ask?(not trying to intimidate you or anything.just a general question)

Posted by Geoffrey on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 12:49pm


"PLAYING POP COUNTRY MUSIC IS INNOVATIVE"-Anonymous
pop country?...yea right.


Yes, that is my point...BJ incorporating "country" into his music is no big innovation...like, who cares

Posted by Anon on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:04pm


About Bon Jovi, jovifan wrote:
"Actually did anyone ever think those votes might be real.Word went out on the net about voting for Bon Jovi at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."
PJ wrote: "No, not in my worst nighmare!"

1) HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!! Nice, PJ.
2) Holy spandex pant! You mean to tell me the Givin Love A Bad Name Bat Signal went out and your dedicated Jovi army ants has promptly answered the call to arms? That's incredible! If you and the KISS Army ever joined forces, you could change the world.... WITH ROCK, MAN!!!

3) You do understand this site is not afiiliated with the actual R&R Hall, right? Your avalanche of votes are not actually rocking the walls at the Hall.

Posted by shawm mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:07pm


"They are a great innovative bands and I am a complete dumb**s for thinking otherwise."

Hey PJ looks like you've recently had a change of opinion towards Bon Jovi.

Why so if I may ask?(not trying to intimidate you or anything.just a general question)


Actually I regret that now. I am not a fan of Bon Jovi. I was tired of all the yes hits over on the left. It was like an insane Bon Jovi army was on attack. I really haven't seen many good arguments of them being deserving of the Hall. However, there were plenty of good ones on why they whouldn't go in. I personally don't think they have done anything that distinguishes them as an innovative and influential band. Please don't write back and say they still sell out stadiums and have sold over 100,000.000. That argument is old,boring and average just like Bon Jovi.

Posted by PJ on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:08pm


"Yes, that is my point...BJ incorporating "country" into his music is no big innovation...like, who cares"-anon or anony..whatever

dude,why'd you have to use two names to make your point?

and yes..there are people who care..you just don't seem to like jovi..i don't like metallica.and i don't care whatever they do..

and i never labeled it as innovation?!..i just quoted a stupid response.

Posted by jaskaran on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:08pm


Anon says: "Yes, that is my point...BJ incorporating "country" into his music is no big innovation...like, who cares"

Exactly. (Anon & I agree - is this a sign of the apocolypse?)
The Stones and The Eagles, to name but two of dozens, already did that like 35 years ago.
It's OK for you to consider it neat-O for BJ to be dressing up in their Walker, Texas Ranger hats, just don't think it's innovative (that's the operative word here, m'kay?

Posted by shawn Mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:12pm


Hi Shaun Thanks for letting me know that.This is my first time here.After reading a little more through these posts I saw you spent a lot of time here.Is this your sight or do are you just entertained by hanging out With Jovi fans???
G2G things to do.Have A Nice Day

Posted by jovifan on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:12pm


I meant to say shouldn't instead of whouldn't in my last post. I realize it is not a real word.

Posted by PJ on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:14pm


jovifan: "G2G things to do."

Yes! Like gettin back to the bunker at Jovi master control. Monitoring the Ant-Jovi's of the global BJ net is demanding. Carry on.

Posted by shawn Mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:21pm


jovifan: "Bon Jovi commercialized rock and roll and made it okay for mainstream radio stations to play rock of any genre."

(spontaneously reacting with classic beer/milk/water spewing out in disbelief).
P-P-F-F-F-T!!!!
What? What did you just say? Shall I start with Elvis or The Beatles or... oh my god.

"First artist to perform on the rooftop of Ed Sullivan's theater too."
You're serious with this.
You've never seen footage of The Beatles on the roof of Apple records in 1969 doing "Get Back"?
You've never seen U2's video "Where The Streets Have No Name"?
My drunken neighbor also clambered onto his roof last Summer naked and farted into an amplifier for the rest of the street.

Posted by shawn mc on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:40pm


The only part about this that's funny to me is that I'm sure a good percentage of you guys who are calling Bon Jovi's music poppy and soulless have never listened to anyhing except radio singles.

Posted by Brian on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 13:58pm


"Bon Jovi took a genre of music polished it up made the choruses bigger."

Pop music has ALWAYS been about the choruses. This shows a ridiculous amount of ignorance that I find alarming.

"Bon Jovi commercialized rock and roll and made it okay for mainstream radio stations to play rock of any genre."

Rock has ALWAYS been commercial. The Beatles, The Stones, Elvis, rock was commercial from the minute it was created.Bon Jovi are just another cog in the wheel, easily forgotten when the next movement comes along.

Can we please find another mediocre band to talk about endlessly?

Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 14:04pm


This vote-bombing crap is just retarded. Your favorite band does not have to be innovative or influential for you to like them, but liking them isn't enough to qualify them for the Hall.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 16:59pm


Yes, Shawn we agree - whats the deal with the mc thing? There is abolutely nothing innovative about BJ. Great example of the Eagles being country - a lot of people do not realize that. The fact is BJ is follower, not a leader. And, again, the fact that he sold a gazillion album makes him huge and successful, but not necessarily HOF material.

And, somone above makes the reference to me not liking BJ. That is totally irrelevant. I do not like the Velvet Underground, but can readily admit their influence and need to be in the HOF.

You know, this stuff is pretty straightforward...try not to make it so complicated. Stop letting your love for BJ cloud your judgment - just for a moment - please

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 17:50pm


So what's the criteria for getting into the British Hall of Fame? They were inducted last year so if the criteria is the same then they have met that criteria according to the BHOF voters, who I assume are members of the musical community.

Posted by BJ OK on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 20:53pm


So perhaps they could just be wrong? If your main qualifiers are (I hate having to repeat this again) innovation and influence, nothing else really matters at all. Prove they have either of those things and you might have a case.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 20:59pm


"So what's the criteria for getting into the British Hall of Fame"

No clue..but it is not at all relevant since we are talking about the US HOF...stay focused now

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 21:04pm


I don't know - I think it is relevant if the criteria is the same. I know it's the same in that a panel of judges votes so if they are looking at the same criteria to vote a band in or not then it doesn't matter what country they do it from the same standards have to be met in their eyes.
William, are you saying that the panel of the British HOF is wrong and you are right! That's a big call!

Posted by BJ OK on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 21:20pm


Whether they are innovative or not is not something that varies by location. I don't know what the criteria are in the U.K. If they are the same, then yes, they would be wrong to induct a band with nonexistent innovation and minimal influence on other musicians.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 21:34pm


William wrote
"If they are the same, then yes, they would be wrong to induct a band with nonexistent innovation and minimal influence on other musicians."

So by saying this,you're proving your point that the UKHOF committee is wrong,and YOUR decision is right.

William,didn't you just posted that Bon Jovi did the best they could have done in that era,and that they were 10 years late.

Hence,there are tons of artists who happen to start their career during the "wrong" time.

So that doesn't mean one ignores them and just limit the respective HOF with a fewer artists.

Posted by Geoffrey on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 21:43pm


You guys this is ridiculous!! How does one "insignificant and boring" band get people sooo hot headed??!! Apparently, they're not so insignificant after all... But that's not even the point, is it?

Influence and innovation are important and that is the requirement for HOF. However, the bigger question is what makes the HOF panel such experts?! It is very cool to hate Bon Jovi ... critics haven't given them any respect since Slippery made it big back in '87...

The reality is that commercially successful bands are automatically rejected in the critics eyes... All critics want is to be part of this small, snobby music know-it-alls. Once the masses latch on to something it's no longer "COOL". And how many of you take a critic's review as the gospel?! Unfortunately, many people see those album reviews in Rolling Stone magazine or other publications and accept them as the ultimate judge. Many are swayed by what critics have to say about Bon Jovi and don't allow their music to speak for itself.

Just like Brian pointed out... Most people that love BOn jovi know ALL their stuff, not just Wanted, Livin' On A Prayer or Bad Name. Listening to radio singles alone doesn't tell you very much about a band. Radio singles are the most marketable songs on the album for a record company... Most of the time radio singles are not a band's best work.

Bon Jovi fans are fans because they know the good stuff. Ask any Bon Jovi fan what their favorite Jovi tune is and they'll name a song almost no one else has heard. And that's the problem, in my opinion.

Yes, albums sold and sold-out concerts don't exactly equal critical acclaim or innovation... Take N'SYNC and New Kids On The Block for heaven's sake.... no great innovation or influence there. But you can hardly put Bon Jovi in that category, no matter how much you may dislike them.

Many bands look at Bon Jovi as the be all of musical success because of their longevity and amazing live shows. Very few bands can command an audience they way Bon Jovi can.

The HOF is a crap shoot as far as Bon Jovi is concerned. If the panel is unbiased, maybe they'll have a chance at being inducted... If not, that's ok... Critical praise or lack there of won't change my opinion of this band. Their albums, not just the radio singles, are the soundtrack to my life and no critic or HOF panel is going to change that.

Posted by Marta on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:04pm


If they're not innovative, then...well, they're not innovative. It speaks for itself.

"The reality is that commercially successful bands are automatically rejected in the critics eyes"-Marta

Yeah, when will the Beatles, Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin, U2, Elvis Presley, Hank Williams, Aretha Franklin, The Who, Johnny Cash, and Jimi Hendrix get their due!

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:07pm


Hey I agree with that... Those bands should get their due... Absolutely! But why are you so steadfast in the idea that Bon Jovi deserves any less?!

Posted by Marta on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:11pm


I was being facetious. All of those bands are inducted because they are all highly influential, innovative, or both. Bon Jovi is neither. They're just popular.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:13pm


Look I am not here to argue other artist's influence and innovation... I'm not going to disagree with any of that.

But I will ask this... What albums and/or Bon Jovi songs have you personally listened to? I have a feeling that I named most of them in my earlier post and THAT was my point. Listen to some of the unreleased stuff and maybe just maybe you'll understand why Bon Jovi fans, like myself, believe in this band.

I really believe that bands like Creed, Nickelback, and others would not have their BIG sound without Bon Jovi as an influence.
Do you have any idea how many bands came out of wood work back in the late 80's copying Bon Jovi's sound??!! They had an impact on music history whether you want to admit it or not!

Posted by Marta on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:24pm


Look I am not here to argue other artist's influence and innovation... I'm not going to disagree with any of that.

But I will ask this... What albums and/or Bon Jovi songs have you personally listened to? I have a feeling that I named most of them in my earlier post and THAT was my point. Listen to some of the unreleased stuff and maybe just maybe you'll understand why Bon Jovi fans, like myself, believe in this band.

I really believe that bands like Creed, Nickelback, and others would not have their BIG sound without Bon Jovi as an influence.
Do you have any idea how many bands came out of wood work back in the late 80's copying Bon Jovi's sound??!! They had an impact on music history whether you want to admit it or not!

Posted by Marta on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:24pm


Creed and Nickelback owe more to Pearl Jam (which incidentally is just an outgrowth of Mother Love Bone) than anything else. I don't think I've ever really heard Bon Jovi listed among their influences, really.

And I have heard it, especially the first five. I actually even like Slippery When Wet a little today. But it's not original in the slightest, and aside from the paltry list offered above, I can't think of hardly any bands who cite them as an influence.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:28pm


The British rock hall is voted on by fans. There are no set criteria whatsoever.

Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:32pm


Of course ... you're the guy that arrogantly disagreed with the British HOF criteria. They inducted Bon Jovi... they MUST be WRONG... What were they thinking??!! Save it! Here I thought I could have an intelligent argument... What was I thinking, right?!

The idea that a band that you don't like or respect has been around for as long as it has is unexplicable to you, isn't it?! Maybe we're all idiots for loving this band... If the "critics" say they're unoriginal then they must be... They did not spawn a list of bands in the 80's copying their sound... they didn't influence anyone, right? How is that humanly possible?!!

When you grow up listening to a certain kind of music you can't help but to be influenced by it. And bands like Nickelback, Creed, Hinder, Coldpaly all have stated having listened to Bon Jovi growing up. But I'm sure you'll come back and tell me that you've never "heard Bon Jovi listed among their influences", won't you? Predictable....

Posted by Marta on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:43pm


As Kit's already explained, the British Hall is open to fan voting. I'd be willing to bet they have more than their share of glaring omissions, as well.

So you've named four bands that admitted to listening to them. Ignoring that four bands is hardly a huge following, listening to something and being influenced by it are very different. What aspects of Bon Jovi's music are visible in those bands? Now what do you suppose the chances are that those aspects could also be influenced by something else?

The influence field is really all you have to make a case with, and it isn't strong. But innovation is nonexistent.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:49pm


And with the exception of Coldplay, all of those are post-grunge bands, and almost all post-grunge bands are direct descendants of Pearl Jam. Those three in particular are glaringly similar in almost every way.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 22:52pm


The British HOF is not soley voted on by fans. I read that it is voted on by a panel of 60 respected artists, music industry execs and journos. Damned if I can find the actual criteria though.

Posted by BJ OK on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 23:34pm


william, do you post on all the sites where you disagree with the nominated band or only this one? You just seem very passionate about it that's all and I find it hard to believe that Bon Jovi are the only band nominated that you would believe don't fit the criteria. Not razing you, just interested to know. :)

Posted by BJ OK on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 23:39pm


The boys should definately be inducted into the hall of fame! They are the rock band of the millenium! These guys rock my world and without them my life would be very dull and boring! As they say 120 000 000 fans can't be wrong or can they! GO BON JOVI...

Posted by sonja on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 23:46pm


I wouldn't say passionate, but I just don't think they fit the established criteria, and I've done my research.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.23.07 @ 23:48pm


but surely you can look at the list and see others that have been inducted or coming up for nomination that in your opinion would not meet the criteria. Why so down on Bon Jovi?

Posted by BJ OK on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 00:10am


I've spoken up about several bands here.

Posted by William on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 00:42am


BJ OK,
I don't think William has an axe to grind with Bon Jovi - he's just trying to get a point across that seems to bounce off of some pretty thick skulls that BJ is not that innovative, and that millions in records sold does not write them - or anyone - a ticket into the Hall. The ham fisted whoo-hoo-ing and outright enmity those views are met with by many BJ fans has lead to a truckload of volleying posts.
There seems to be little to no reasoning with many who have Jovi Fever; perhaps the question should be asked of those like jaskaran why they are so fervent.

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 01:27am


You know what - nevermind my last comment -- please - I don't wanna hear the answer to that question again and again!!

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 01:29am


"point across that seems to bounce off of some pretty thick skulls that BJ is not that innovative, and that millions in records sold does not write them - or anyone - a ticket into the Hall"-shawn mc


"There seems to be little to no reasoning with many who have Jovi Fever; perhaps the question should be asked of those like jaskaran why they are so fervent."-shawn mc

okay,and here's the "wise guy" shawn's comment on one of his favorite artist(steve miller band):"If for no other eason, these 6 songs should earn this guy an induction"

dude,it's you who has the fever..you come here so often and passionately write dirt about bon jovi..get a life.

and nevermind this comment too..i don't wanna argue..especially not with you..." :) "

Posted by jaskaran on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 02:06am


Thanks jaskaran!!!!!!
Hey boys and girls please dont argue,it is no need to do that!!!!!!!Those who not like BJ please leave this site and those who like it please vote:)!!!!Bon Jovi will still sell many many records and still playing at the bigest stadiums and it will be inducted in to a hall of fame,so dont need to argue ok!Please respect artists!!!!!!!

Posted by kleman on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 02:24am


Bon Jovi es el mejor grupo de rock, y sobretodo en directo.
Gracias!!
Bon jovi forever!!

Posted by Angel Cediel Carrio on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 05:33am


Bon Jovi est l'un des plus grands groupes de rock du monde et OUI à leur intronisation au Hall of Fame Américain... c'est très largement mérité !!
ce groupe est absolument UNIQUE...

Bon Jovi: THANK YOU

Posted by Fab on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 06:17am


"Those who not like BJ please leave this site and those who like it please vote"-kleman

That's stupid. If we did that, every band would have 100% Yes votes whether they deserved it or not.

You don't get how this objectivity thing works. It has nothing to do with liking, disliking, or "respecting" (I almost hate this word). I've tried to be patient with people who clearly aren't music literate, but if you honestly believe that Bon Jovi deserves a spot in the hall and you can't explain why in the context of innovation (meaning things they did musicaly that nobody before them did) and influence (meaning they inspired bands to copy or integrate their sound, not just that they listened to them as a kid), then you're an idiot.

Posted by William on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 08:07am


William, HOW OLD ARE YOU ,15 I THINK!!!!!!GO AWAY MORON!!!!!!

Posted by kleman on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 08:48am


kleman: "William, HOW OLD ARE YOU ,15 I THINK!!!!!!GO AWAY MORON!!!!!!..Those who not like BJ please leave this site and those who like it please vote:)!!!! "

jaskaran & kleman,

The grand irony is that you two's very behavior and junior high rhetoric here in Bon Jovi land casts a shadow of embarrassment over your band's fanbase and does more damage to taking Bon Jovi seriously than any cogent points that William or I or Anonymous or SD or PJ could make.

These pages are here FOR debate - not just for ass kissing. The "Just get out and shut up, man!! This page is for rockin BJ fans only!" defense is so lame it's comical.

jaskaran - it's so obvious you have actually resorted to impersonating others? - GAY-AY!
And you persist in the round-the-clock vote carpet bombing for BJ, as if you're fixing a home coming king election? Good Lord - NERD ALERT!!

This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen on this site. You guys are like monkeys with guns.

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:15am


I have no doubt about it... Bon Jovi is the best band ever!!! They kicked ass, they kick, and they will be still standing for the next 100 years!!!

Posted by L_BJ on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:21am


Sureeeeeee!Bon Jovi rocks our world, babe!They're the best band forever!


*Bon Jovi today, tomorrow and ALWAYS!!!!

Posted by Paulabonjovi on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:29am


shawn,yes jackass that's what you would think..and it's nearly impossible to vote for more that once every few hours..where the fuck are you getting your facts from?...
i've never told anyone to stop posting here,why include me?..and actually,you accusing me without any solid proof's..solidify you more as a damn second grader rather than calling me a "junior high whatever"...
and seriously..you need to quit kissing ass.
Shawn..shawn mc...whatever name you post under...
and please,feel free to comment on me and thereby help boost your own self esteem...

Posted by jaskaran on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:40am


WOOOOO!!! All these BJ haters are Bad Medicine, man!! BJ are Gods!! All others bow before their most-excellence!! Led Zeppelin would SUCK royal without Jon and the boys. I know that makes no sense, 'cause Sambora was like 5 when Zep was around, but who cares - I'm on a roll!! WOO-HOOO!!! I can't seperate my own identity from Bon Jovi! Jovi haters are butt puppets dude!! Bj WAS innovative - they wore cowboy hats in a video once and "I'll Be There For You" is my ringtone and makes me cry every incoming call.
And this is not a fictional poster who is secretly me... uh, I mean not jaskaran.

Posted by IamNotjaskaranBeinglame-O on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:45am


I'm writing from Chile, south america.
Bon Jovi must be into Rock & Roll Hall of Fame because they create unplugged style and for their succesful career. They are part of our lives.
The best band of the world!!!!!!

Posted by Rommy on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:53am


Is it possible that someone set up a ballot=stuffing program to automatically vote? Because really, there is no reason for the Bon Jovi votes to be in the proportion they are to all the other artists. Look at this, it's ridiculous.

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:56am


What the hell?.
you two,grow up.

Posted by Geofrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:56am


WOOOOO!!! All these BJ haters are Bad Medicine, man!! BJ are Gods!! All others bow before their most-excellence!! Led Zeppelin would SUCK royal without Jon and the boys.

UMM.. That is interesting since Led Zeppelin started in the late 60s and Bon Jovi is an 80s band. This just confirms that the BJ fans are not only insane but stupid as well!

Posted by PJ on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:56am


Kit wrote:
"Is it possible that someone set up a ballot=stuffing program to automatically vote? Because really, there is no reason for the Bon Jovi votes to be in the proportion they are to all the other artists. Look at this, it's ridiculous."

Some of the fans have posted about this site on various forums and fan sites.
That might be generating the traffic.

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 10:58am


PJ wrote:
"Led Zeppelin would SUCK royal without Jon and the boys. "

PJ who told you that.
Bon Jovi claim Led Zeppelin as an influence.
It would be stupid to think it that way otherwise that Bon Jovi makes Led Zeppelin entertaining.

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:01am


jaskaran: "i've never told anyone to stop posting here,why include me?.."

3/10: "hell if you guys don't like bon jovi,at least don't come out here and saying crap about them..."

3/10: "don't like the band?don't comment no one gives a s**t about you.GET A LIFE."


Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:06am


To all the Jovi fans:
Please put in valuable comments instead of the "best band ever".This just gives the rest of us a bad reputation.

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:06am


Kit wrote:
"Is it possible that someone set up a ballot=stuffing program to automatically vote? Because really, there is no reason for the Bon Jovi votes to be in the proportion they are to all the other artists. Look at this, it's ridiculous."

Some of the fans have posted about this site on various forums and fan sites.
That might be generating the traffic.

This could be true! I believe the word is out at all high schools, mental institutions and prisons to vote for Bon Jovi.




Posted by PJ on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:11am


PJ wrote this before:
"Okay Bon Jovi fans I give up and I was totally wrong about the average boring remark. Bon Jovi should be in the Hall"

Now PJ writes this:
"I believe the word is out at all high schools, mental institutions and prisons to vote for Bon Jovi. "

Mental institutions,that must be like a second home to you.

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:14am


i'm a french fan, and this band is amazing... he was THE revelation for me, in 1988, with New Jersey album !! merçi à vous les guys

WE LOVE BON JOVI, ALL AROUND THE WORLD

Posted by Pierre on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:17am


"Is it possible that someone set up a ballot=stuffing program to automatically vote?"
"Some of the fans have posted about this site on various forums and fan sites.
That might be generating the traffic."

Anything is possible; the Bon Jovi Commission is a powerful global jihad that has now been mobilized; the "word" on "the net" has "gone out". Nothing will stand in their way when The Bon has been dissed.
Just witness their frightening impact: the induction chances for BJ has gone from 61% to 62%. Also, Tici Torres standing as a drummer has been elevated from "suck-ass" to "Scooby-Doo band bad" status.
Stay alert people.

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:19am


shawn mc wrote:
"Anything is possible; the Bon Jovi Commission is a powerful global jihad that has now been mobilized; the "word" on "the net" has "gone out". Nothing will stand in their way when The Bon has been dissed.
Just witness their frightening impact: the induction chances for BJ has gone from 61% to 62%. Also, Tici Torres standing as a drummer has been elevated from "suck-ass" to "Scooby-Doo band bad" status.
Stay alert people."

You and that other guy who argues with you,both are really irritating.
Why can't you make some decent comments(for or against)?

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:22am


"i'm a french fan,.."
Posted by Pierre

Oh my God, jaskaran... I am tearing up, I am laughing so hard. dude, you are priceless! This insanity is awesome to behold!
Who's next? Hans from Belgium? Klaus from Germany? Pablo from Mexico loves El Jovi too!

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:25am


I give up.
I come here to see some creative criticism to argue with but all i get is a bunch of churlish comments and personal attacks.

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:27am


"You and that other guy who argues with you,both are really irritating.
Why can't you make some decent comments(for or against)?"

Because, Geoffrey, I've already read 270+ other comments trying to "discuss" Bon Jovi seriously. It's a goddamn lost cause and a farce at this point, and all I can tolerate anymore is making fun of it all.
And also: "Serious" and "Bon Jovi" are incompatible. They mix together like peanut butter and horseradish.

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:32am


Finally some serious reply.
So come on Shawn,show your maturity here,if someone acts like a jerk here at least you could be the one posting a decent comment.
And where's your "try" to post a decent comment,all i can see is your's anti-jovi useless and abusive posts.

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:39am


oui, je m'appelle bien Pierre, et je suis un fan français, et je t'emmerde shawn mc

aujourd'hui, sur pas mal de forums liés à BJ, en France, en Espagne, en Belgique et dans d'autres pays, un lien nous est parvenu, pour que nous puissions voter pour Bon Jovi et une éventuelle intronisation au Hall Of Fame, mais ça doit surment t'emboucher un coin, de voir intervenir tant de fans en si peut de temps, d'un seul coup d'un seul, pour dire qu'ils aiment BJ et qu'ils votent pour eux !! ça te fait terriblement chier, et forcément ça te rend méchant... alors va te faire foutre (ou fuck you, si tu veux)

Posted by Pierre on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:39am


"I give up.
I come here to see some creative criticism to argue with but all i get is a bunch of churlish comments and personal attacks."
Posted by Geoffrey

Dude, adopt some perspective and unclench.
This is Bon-freakin-Jovi on the table here. Do I need to repeat that? Is this a think tank on global warming or Rwandan genocide?

Scroll up a few inches if you want to review the place where sincere dialogue was attempted and we ran into Scarface.
Seriously, have you anyting fresh or insightful to ADD to the "discussion" on Bon Jovi?

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:40am


Then why can't we just stop.
If you find all the new posts useless,it's best that you stop,like I did and be the higher being there.
Instead,you reply to them and thereby,deteriorating your own self.

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:43am


"And where's your "try" to post a decent comment,all i can see is your's anti-jovi useless and abusive posts."

Then look a little closer Geoffrey, goddammit.
I tried very hard, AS DID OTHERS, for a while to make some "real" arguments. Perhpas mine tend to be peppered with sarcasm, but they were sincere.

If you look, you'll see at one point I even offered jaskaran a respectable argument FOR Bon Jovi that he could take up and intelligently use to contribute with; he pissed on it. Don't scold me for trying to bring some sardonic levity to this food fight now. Your BJ cohorts are the ones ushering in the gang violence.
It's all "BJ is the best!" and "You guys don't know shit!" in response to all of the acute and thoughtful offerings by the likes of Kit and Willim and Dezmond and Anon and SD and PJ, no matter how sharp edged they were. They got bumper sticker reponses or Fanboy venom back mostly.
It BECAME funny (to me, anyway)by virtue of its ludicrousness.
It got boring and trite and farcical; it's over.
So quit lecturing ME.

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 11:54am


Oh God,never thought that i'd be doing that but,that guy,Jaskaran did mention this "i ain't gonna waste my time replying to you..just scroll upwards."
And if you do scroll upwards,He had a lengthy discussion with William about the same fact that you were about to offer to him.

So sorry.
I'll be quitting from here it seems.

Posted by Geoffrey on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 12:00pm


I don't get the attraction to BJ in terms of discussing his induction to the US RRHOF. Major criteria for induction include influence and innovation. So, here it goes:

BON JOVI RESUME:

1) Hugely popular - Check

2) Sold a gazzillion records - Check

3) Sold out concerts - Check

4) Listenable - Check

5) Influence - None / Minimal

6) Innovation - None / Minimal

Unfortunately, only having 1-4 does not qualify BJ for the HOF. You need to nave 5 and / or 6. It is that simple. Not sure why you are attacking me, William, etc. I have nothing against BJ, but he does not have points 5 and 6 above - end of story.

And, the fact that you "love" the band and think they are the "greatest ever" - is not relevant to the HOF induction criteria.

Posted by Anon on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 12:04pm


cool guys !! it's only rock & roll...

i'm a fan, and i say YES

Posted by jack on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 12:08pm


They are still one of the greatest, if not, the greatest live band on earth, besides that Jon and Richie are still writing and composing their own songs (which I can't say of 80 % of the other so called artists or bands).
What influences they've got ; the whole worldwide music scene became unplugged after the boys did there MTV unplugged show as the first band ever.
This band deserves it

Posted by Chris on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 12:11pm


"What influences they've got; the whole worldwide music scene became unplugged after the boys did there MTV unplugged show"

Yeah, because no one ever played acoustic guitar before that...very weak argument

Posted by Anon on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 12:28pm


To all you guys who keep harping on the innovation and influence criteria... Well, let's just say that those are important factors for some of the inductees, but certainly not all. Selling a ton of records definitely helps, and if you don't think those record executives who made a ton of money off of Bon Jovi aren't going to want to help them into the Hall, then you're crazy. There's a place for good, clean, popular rock and roll in the Hall of Fame. Just ask Billy Joel or The Eagles.

You can argue until you're blue in the face that they don't deserve it because they didn't change the course of rock history, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be recognized for the long and fruitful career.

Posted by c.w. on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 12:44pm


PJ wrote this before:
"Okay Bon Jovi fans I give up and I was totally wrong about the average boring remark. Bon Jovi should be in the Hall"

Now PJ writes this:
"I believe the word is out at all high schools, mental institutions and prisons to vote for Bon Jovi. "

Mental institutions,that must be like a second home to you.

Did I not explain this yesterday. I was being sarcastic!!!! I don't think any of the bands in my original post are worthy of the RRHOF. It is my opinion and quit using the same reply everyday to prove your pathetic point. Come up with a valid arguement. I made one statement 5 or 6 six days ago that stated Bon Jovi was an average band. I never posted again until you bunch of crazy, retarded monkeys started acting like a bunch of little children. There are a lot of people that have given intelligent, thoughful answers on why they should not be in the Hall and you and your group of 10 year olds shot them down on every turn. It makes you look stupid and I refuse to get into anymore pi**ing contests with you. Have a Nice Day (wow that is one hell of a song) Again that is sarcasm...you stupid moron.

Posted by PJ on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 12:51pm


"You can argue until you're blue in the face that they don't deserve it because they didn't change the course of rock history, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be recognized for the long and fruitful career."

Thank you c.w.; now THAT is what a competent argument looks like. Nice.

Putting my own musical tastes aside , I actually am one who tends to agree with your point of view. I think that the two I's: Innovation & Influence, are too stringent as criteria when they stand alone or as the paramount standards. I think that filter is too fine.

I think the Hall would very quickly either run out of indisputably I&I candidates, or it would swing too far to an "in-the-know" extreme that only deeply musically educated scholars would comprehend and value it.

While this would not be a bad thing necessarily, the Hall has to keep itself on the populist side to remain interesting to a large audience.

I'd suggest a somewhat departmentalization of the inductee process now. They've got to deliberatly make a spot for artists like The Replacements, King Crimson, Dinosaur Jr, The Jam, Tom Waits.. (hell even The Stooges have been on the ballot for like what.. 6 times?, and have yet to be voted in), or their very worthy like will never see the Hall - at least not until their band members are all dead.

I've done the math, and it's gonna take 8 or more inductees a year for the next 10 to get in all of the golden deserving innovators (Sonic Youth, Husker Du, Big Star..)as well as the radio friendly icons (Doobie Brothers, Cat Stevens, Steve Miller Band..) AND the forsaken legends like Rush and Genesis and Billy Preston and Jeff Beck. There is too big a glut of all categories to completely leave it up to the whimsy of voters choosing 5 a year. Many will be LOST.

And to get back to Bon Jovi--- I believe they have a legitimate place in a Rock museum that I describe. Their longevity and monumental popularity SHOULD carry weight. A Hall scorecard ought to take in points for all aspects and award points from like 1-10 for any category an artist hits a YES with - innovation/influence, originality, historical significance, staying power, concert performance, sales over history, and the wild card: the "Phenomenon" variable.

Like it or not, bands like Bon Jovi and KISS have it. They've been so culturally ubiquitous that it's kind of ridiculous to dismiss it. They have earned something.

An artist may score low to mediocre on the sales score but very high on the influence and originality score and merit induction, and the converse could be true. The rarer ones score high on almost all counts (The Police, Led Zeppelin). A total score of some amount gets you serious consideration.

Personally, I don't really want a Hall that completely ignores a Bon Jovi, because it seems too exclusive to me.
But I realize I am somewhat isolated in my more inclusive politics here!

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 13:27pm


la banda que cambio el stylo del heavy metal,la que llene todos los estadios y no se murio como muchas bandas glam de los 80 ,son el ave fenix saiempre renacen bon jovi for ever

Posted by bonjo on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 14:00pm


Reading these arguements is definitely an amusing usage of my time...but I really wish people would stop posting messages in the Bon Jovi section. I like to come here and read the comments for various artists and see why/why not someone thinks they're worthy of inclusion....unfortunately, for the last week or so, all I see are BON JOVI comments....*yawn*

Everyone outside of their hardcore fan base agrees that they had minimal innovation or influence. It's for that reason that the comittee will never, ever place them on the ballot. End of discussion.

Posted by Casper on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 14:08pm


About Bon Jovi, bonjo wrote:
"la banda que cambio....

BONJO??? HAAAA-hahahaha!!!
I love you, jaskaran! You are a hoot!! Keep 'em comin! You even keep using the same tagline - "Bon Jovi Forever!" with these It's A Small World pledges of BJ allegience, albeit in each language. If only you could also speak Japanese, you'd have a hat trick of languages representin'.
I've truly not seen anything like this. It's wonderful madness!
But we see your feet there behind that curtain great OZ!

Can you do an Aussie accented one next, mate? Please!

Seriously though - can our webmaster intercede and cease the robot voting machine? It's gotten really creepy. I feel like The Borg are blasting Little Runaway on their ship and voting.

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 14:39pm


of course !! YES for BJ

Posted by Cort on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 14:44pm


BON JOVI must be inducted into the rock & roll hall of fame. This BAND is one of the best bands in the world. Tickets sold out, full stadiums wherever they go...maybe you dont like their music, its ok, everyone has different preferences, but we have to recognize this band could survive the 80's era, and still keep rocking...

Posted by ROMINA on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 14:45pm


About Bon Jovi, bonjo wrote:
"la banda que cambio....

BONJO??? HAAAA-hahahaha!!!
I love you, jaskaran! You are a hoot!! Keep 'em comin! You even keep using the same tagline - "Bon Jovi Forever!" with these It's A Small World pledges of BJ allegience, albeit in each language. If only you could also speak Japanese, you'd have a hat trick of languages representin'.
I've truly not seen anything like this. It's wonderful madness!
But we see your feet there behind that curtain great OZ!

Can you do an Aussie accented one next, mate? Please!

Seriously though - can our webmaster intercede and cease the robot voting machine? It's gotten really creepy. I feel like The Borg are blasting Little Runaway on their ship and voting.

shawn mc, you're very stupid... il est pour toi inconcevable que des fans du monde entier puissent venir s'exprimer sur ce site ?? tu crois que Jaskaran se fait passer pour d'autres fans ? oh my God...
very, very stupid, it's amazing !!


Posted by Pierre on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 14:56pm


For me bon Jovi deserve to be inducted for many reasons. Here's a few:
- With their chemistry between rock and melody (hard FM) they open the doors of charts around the world for many rock band in the 80's
- They inspired MTV & unplugged wave with their acoustic performance on the Mtv music award in 1989.
- They were the first band to be legally published in Russia
- They are one of the only five international artist to have 3 n°1 album in japan
- they sold more than 120 million albums all over the world and have an impressionnable list of sold out tours in these past 25 years...
- They worked with a lot of different kind of artists: Aerosmith, Bruce Springsteen (on many charity gigs), Alice cooper, Skid Row, Cher, Eric clapton, Elton john, Pink, Johnny hallyday (in France,...), Keith Urban,Southside Johnny, Sam Cooke, Willie Nelson,...
- after 25 years: they still make sold out tour, still sell albums by million, and still hit the charts with singles ("Livin' on a prayer"(86), "bad medecine"(89), "Blaze of glory" (90), "always"(94), "it's my life"(2000), "who says you can't go home" (2006)for example)
Like them or not,they made music since 25 years and still do with success...All around the world

Posted by Anthony on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 15:41pm


Anon, I don't know where you got the idea that I was attacking you in here.

On to some points:

"- With their chemistry between rock and melody (hard FM) they open the doors of charts around the world for many rock band in the 80's"-Anthony

Which '80s bands? Name some.

"- They inspired MTV & unplugged wave with their acoustic performance on the Mtv music award in 1989."-Anthony

Again, does not count as an influence or innovation. Bands have been playing acoustic forever.

The rest of your points are just more the "They're very popular" argument. That's great and all, but the Hall recognizes contributions to music and popular culture, meaning bands that make a big wave among other bands, not just the public.

Posted by William on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 16:19pm


They deserve to be inducted more than RHCP or Pet Shop Boys!!! They have influenced thousands of new rock bands, and surely I agree with all the reasons listed above...
Bon Jovi deserve to be honored as one of the greatest rock bands in history!

Posted by Slask on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 16:20pm


for Anon:

the criteria you posted are pure rubbish, these are the right ones:

BON JOVI RESUME:

1) Hugely popular - Yes

2) Sold a gazzillion records - Yes

3) Sold out concerts - Yes

4) Listenable - Yes

5) Influence - Absolutely yes

6) Innovation - glam rock wasn't the same anymore after BJ went on top!

Posted by sebach on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 16:26pm


Absolutely YES!There is no other Rock band that compares to the on going success of Bon Jovi. Four original members,brothers and fri-ENDS to the very end from Jersey made more than their dreams come true.Their career is everlasting.Their lyrics and music have touched the hearts of millions around the world and we don't see any slowing down.Their a band that has alot to say and we listen."25" years of great music says it all!

Posted by Gail on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 16:28pm


William - you misread the e-mail - I meant why are these people attacking me, you, etc (anyone saying something"negative" about BJ). Sorry for confusion...

Sebach: Name bands that BJ has influenced and how you know it to be true

Innovative - that is a fuckin laugh...they were more of the same cheesy, glam rock - not innovative at all.

Once again, having points 1-4 is not good enough. So, get over it....

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 17:37pm


Like it or not, bands like Bon Jovi and KISS have it. They've been so culturally ubiquitous that it's kind of ridiculous to dismiss it. They have earned something."

Yeah, a shit load of fuckin money :-)

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 17:42pm


THEY ARE THE BEST....

Posted by MARIA DELIA on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 18:20pm


shawn mc, you're very stupid... il est pour toi inconcevable que des fans du monde entier....

Posted by Pierre on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 14:56pm

jaskaran, you are categorically out of your freakin mind, buddy.
Tell me, how is it that "Pierre" here reads and understands English perfectly, with all the subtlties and innuendos, and yet he insists on typing in Frenchy?
The internet, with its online translators are a wonder of our modern world, aren't they?

This has got to be the stupidest, most lunatic way I've seen to try to support fan boy love; fake a global uprising.
You are in orbit, son.

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 19:29pm


"- With their chemistry between rock and melody (hard FM) they open the doors of charts around the world for many rock band in the 80's"-Anthony

Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. The charts have never been closed to rock. This isn't an argument, it's your own ridiculous revisionist history.

Posted by Kit on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 19:41pm


aguante Bon Jovi!!!!! Bon Jovi the best

Posted by SAMY on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 20:25pm


If ANYONE deserve this recognition that's our guys from BON JOVI!!! Im 100% possitive theyll make it to the rock n roll hall of fame!!!

Posted by Renata from Chile on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 22:11pm


la cosa es bien facil 100 millones de fans no pueden estar equivocados ....

tours por todo el mundo....... que mas se necesita se han mantenido durante 25 años y ademas han tocado para 3 generaciones q aun lo escucha y siguen a un grupo q aun llena estadios por todo el mundo

Posted by juanito on Thursday, 05.24.07 @ 23:25pm


They were never critical favorite, but they really deserve to be in RnR Hall of Fame. There are no many bands who play over 20 years and are able to sell out stadium all over the world.

Posted by Andro on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 02:15am


yeah sell big time,like in Japan!!!!In Japan there is no band who able to sell stadiums like Bon Jovi!!!They rules in Japan:)

Posted by kleman on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 03:44am


They have rocked for so many years and have so many great albums they deserve to be there !
Gilly

Posted by gilly on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 04:00am


They rock and kick ass !
The greatest rock band alive
Gilly

Posted by gilly on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 04:42am


they have best live shows ever!!!!!i think that is A good Influence to other bands!!!there is no band who is able to do so good live show, maybe STONES!!!!!

Posted by kleman on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 04:52am


hola doy mu voto por bon jovi q es el mejor cantante .incomparable pienso q es el mejor de todos y debe ganar

Posted by javier on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 05:58am


Bon Jovi is one of the most influential bands of all time, there are not many bands that came out the same time as them that have actually been able to keep changing the music and being able to keep up with the ever changing times in music. they definatly be up there with the best.

after 20 years there still sellin out stadiums and records, each time a new album comes out a whole new wave on bon jovi fans are born. Their music appeals to not only the older generations but the younger generations too. They can even beat the hell out of current music!

Bon Jovi Rock!

Posted by Kayleigh on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 06:08am


La mejor banda de Rock & Roll del mundo!!! una banda con ya 3 generaciones de fans, una banda que sobrevivio en el tiempo y que siempre nos sorprendio ya sea con un tema de puro rock o una balada o como hoy en dia que nos sorprendieron con una cancion a dueto al mejor estilo country recibiendo muchas nominaciones y premios, dando a conocer el poder de composicion que tienen richie a jon, y hoy faltando pocos dias para la salida del esperado disco de influencias country con su toque de rock bonjoviano se podria decir...
Bon Jovi Forever!!! My dreams is Bon Jovi In Argentina... ojala algun dia vuelvan y no duden que sere el primero en estar ahi jeje

Posted by Luis Muller on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 07:06am


bon jovi i love you soys los mejores y los que mas durais os kiere desde españa




miriam!!

Posted by miriambonjovi on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 08:47am


"Bon Jovi is one of the most influential bands of all time, there are not many bands that came out the same time as them that have actually been able to keep changing the music and being able to keep up with the ever changing times in music. they definatly be up there with the best."-Kayleigh

Most influential to who? WHO?! You can't just say that without backing it up. Who are they influencing? Name some bands, because I'm almost certain you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

It's idiots like you that ruin music for the rest of us.

Posted by William on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 09:07am


Bon Jovi deserves to be included into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. I have been a fan since the start of Bon Jovi when I was 14 now Im going on 37. Let me remind yu all who are not familar with Bon Jovi....

They have sold over 130 million albums world wide, Performed over 10,000 shows world wide to an audience of 100 million fans and STILL GROWING!! Young and old. Bon Jovi DO NOT follow trends they stay true to who they are and where they came from and still write their OWN LYRICS!!! If you don't know what the song Wanted, Dead or Alive is about then you shouldn't be commenting on why some boy from Jersey is writting about a cowboy!!!! Listen to the lyrics and you might learn something, if you still don't know what they mean feel free to contact me and I will fill you in!!!
I don't know many performers today who write their own material.... Usually it is written for them by another artist!!!
If you have NEVER seen Bon Jovi in concert or haven't seen them since 1986..... then I suggest you take in a show for the 2008 tour coming and see for yourself HOW BON JOVI ROCKS THE HOUSE!!! After you see Bon Jovi LIVE then come talk to me about ONE OF THE GREATEST BANDS STILL ROCKIN THE WORLD!!! Don't knock them if you have never experienced them!!!

Posted by Robin on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 09:29am


"Let me remind yu all who are not familar with Bon Jovi.."
--No God, please - no more. Please make this stop. Suddenly the concept of Kilroy Was here seems very attractive.

"100 million fans and STILL GROWING!"
--I am frightened. Resistence is futile.

"Bon Jovi DO NOT follow trends.."
--Noooo; glam/pop rock was truly cutting edge stuff.

"..they stay true to who they are.."
--Bland to the end! Takin that stand, fuckin aye!

"..and still write their OWN LYRICS!!"
--WHAT?! That is unheard of!! Really??!!!

"I don't know many performers today who write their own material.... Usually it is written for them by another artist!!!"
-- You don't? Then maybe you should expand your cd collection past The Monkees, The Partridge Family and Pussycat Dolls. This is just a shockingly stu-fucking-pid statement.

"Don't knock them if you have never experienced them!!!"
You know, I've never experienced a moggat sandwich or being sodomized by a donkey either, but I think I'll pass on more Bon Jovi as well.

You know, forget the generous and inclusive attitude I had yesterday about prefering to see Bon Jovi in the R&R Hall; fuck that, fuck that, fuck that. They have all the lifetime payoff they deserve already with this blind and bobble-headed devotion from their sea of dumbfuck fans.
That is enough for them. Fuck Bon Jovi and keep them away from the Hall.

You people are lunatics.

Posted by shawn mc on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 09:59am


No sé por qué pelean tanto...Todos sabemos que Bon Jovi va entrar al salón de la fama...eso es un hecho, les guste o no. Y eso nos deja contentos a los fans...y a los que no....que se caguen!. Pueden dar todos los argumentos que quieran, decir que Bon Jovi no merece estar, pero nosotros estaremos con Bon Jovi en el salón y eso es lo que queremos.....y a los que no les guste...mala suerte no más. Las cosas son así, ellos van a estar y más de 120 millones de personas estaran felices !!!!!!

Posted by kapitan kid on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 10:23am


About Bon Jovi, kapitan kid wrote:
No sé por qué pelean tanto...

jaskaran, you are a schizophrenic dement.
You are like some twisted villain character out of a superhero movie who, being on the edge of madness, torments himself into evil. In your case, this has manifested in your adoption of these Spanish & French speaking alter egos.

Your Spanish is broken and bad, and you are so transparent -- do you realize you keep imbedding the same basic message in all of these fuzzy foreigner missives? "120 million fans can't be wrong... sold out stadiums across the world.. blah-dee-blah".
The irony is that all you are accomplishing is coloring Bon Jovi as a magnet for bufoons like you.
Please stop it and stop the vote napalming. You are stinking up this site. The fight is over... go home.

Posted by shawn mc on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 11:01am


"jaskaran, you are a schizophrenic dement."-shawn mc

what the hell are you talking about...i don't need to type in some other foreign language..
and seriously..i would rather vote for "yes" instead of typing in some alien language which makes no sense to almost 99% of the voters around here.
quit acting like a jerk.
maybe you're the one who's posting in different languages and trying to make a point out of yourself...possible since you have already changed your user name from Shawn to shawn mc.

and leave that to the webmaster...the ip addresses are recorded..so is mine and your's...i'm not that stupid to go around posting like that...
and what would i get if i had to post here anyways?..nothing..

so you stop all this crap..and yea the fight is over..i opted out yesterday..but you're the one who keeps commenting back like a moron without any solid proofs.

Posted by jaskaran on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 11:15am


A ver...a ver...a ver, cuantas bandas venden 120.000.000 millones de discos? cuantas bandas son conocidas en los 5 continentes? Cuantas bandas crean hits durantes 25 años? muy pocas no? se me vienen un par a la mente: The Rolling Stones, U2, Metallica, alguna mas??? si, si, si Bon Jovi, una banda de señores musicos que sobrevivieron a las modas musicales, a la estitica, a las maliciosas criticas (En mi pais Argentina es muy "Cool" criticar a Bon Jovi, catalogandolos como banda para minitas y esas boludeces...y lo mas lamentable es que vienen de pseudo periodistas que despues escriben maravillas cuando high musical school llena River plate con 50.000 fanaticos!!!) Como sea existen muy pocas bandas que pueden alcanzar el status de megabandas y les guste o no BON JOVI es una de ellas....I've seen a million faces an I've rocked them all. (BON JOVI, WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE, SLIPPERY WHEN WET, 1986)

Posted by Gonzalo on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 11:16am


yep..that explains it...now just wait for that smart ass to put this ^^ on me.

Posted by jaskaran on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 11:18am


habla el verdadero kapitan kid, desde Chile, país en donde se habla español como lengua nativa. Para los que no lo crean. Me gustaría saber cuánta de la gente que opina que BJ no son influencia sabe que el movimiento unplugged de MTV surgió de la presentación de Jon y Richie en los MTV movie awards, ¡si hasta el video aparece en esta misma página!. Se creen críticos musicales o algo así?, dejemos que la gente que realmente sabe tome la decisión. Por lo pronto, muéranse los que dicen que no deben estar..POR QUE ELLOS SÍ VAN A ESTAR EN EL SALÓN, somos millones de personas votando, aunque digan lo que quieran...estoy seguro que muchos de los que consideran que BJ no deberían estar en el salon de la fama les gustaría ser fan de una banda tan grande como BJ, con tantos fans incondicionales, alrededor de todo el mundo, pero bandas como BJ sólo una...y lo mejor de todo es que aunque digan que BJ no vale nada, a nosotros nos da lo mismo, y eso es lo que más le molesta....
Saludos desde Chile, Kapitan kid

Posted by kapitan kid on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 11:53am


Les Stones, U2 et Bon Jovi sont les plus grands groupes de rock actuels, ils font les tournées mondiale les plus imposante au monde ! elles sont celles qui rapportent le plus d'argent, attirent le plus grand nombre de gens, et sont les plus spectaculaires... ils ont vendu énormément de disques, ce qui est loin d'être le cas de tous les Motley Crue (shit), Journey (shit), Europe (big shit), Poison (big big shit, beurk) ! ces groupes ont disparus, ne sont plus rien, PAS Bon Jovi, alors ne comparont pas ces groupes avec BJ, s'ils vous plait
, car ils ne sont pas comparables du tout ! BJ sont toujours dans les charts, ils classent toujours des singles et leurs albums dans ces charts, et chaque sortie d'un album de BJ est toujours un évènement mondial !! les guys sont tout, sauf has been ! 120 millions de disques vendus, des concerts sold out dans les plus grands stades et plus grandes salles du monde, des tubes à la pelle, dont le dernier remonte à It's my life, en 2000, et qui a cartonné dans le monde entier !! est-ce le cas de Kiss ? de Motley Crue ? de Def Leppard ? NO, NO, NO, NO, et NOOOOOOOOOO !!!! BJ est UNIQUE !! la preuve, si ça n'était pas le cas, ils n'existeraient plus, ou alors ne feraient que tourner sur le territoire américain, et tout le monde s'en balancerait royalement ! mais c'est tout le contraire, tout le monde connait BJ, tous les fans les réclament encore et encore, dans tous les pays du monde !! et n'oubliez pas non plus qu'ils ont été les premiers à être publiés en Russie, BEFORE les Stones et les Beatles !! leur musique est la "première" à avoir touché et pénétré le coeur des Russes durant l'URSS...
bref, vous dites n'importe quoi, certains ici sont stupides, bêtes, méchants, et totalement illogiques... soyez plus objectifs... enfin, j'espere que certains comprennent un peu ce que je dis

Cédric, Bordeaux, France

Posted by Cédric on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 14:32pm


et je rajoute que Slippery When Wet est l'un des disques de rock les plus vendus de tous les temps, que These Days a été une sacrée réponse à toute la vague grunge et Brit Pop du milieu des années 90, et que Crush a définitivement installé BJ au premier plan de la scène musicale des années 2000, et les anglais les ont intronisés au UK Hall of Fame en novembre dernier, et en 2010, ça sera aux USA, c'est sure, car parfaitement logique !!

Posted by Cédric on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 14:44pm


lo mejor del rock o no va ser viva bon jovi carajp jajaja

Posted by wili on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 15:37pm


I took French for a few years. Who knew this would be how I'd have to apply it?

A waste.

Posted by William on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 15:48pm


they are completely in!like them or not that's not the question.being critizied for so many years and still kicking.they make rock'n'roll so shut up guys!

Posted by bonjovi_forever on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 16:09pm


The best band

Posted by Bua on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 19:09pm


Please, lets end this dumb conversation about a fairly non-signficant band - everyond just stop!

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 20:31pm


If ya don't like Bon Jovi then don't vote for them then!!!
Personally in my opinion the majority of you who are knocking Bon Jovi probably listen to their songs anyways.

Posted by Robin on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 21:46pm


"If ya don't like Bon Jovi then don't vote for them then!!!"-Robin

Did you miss where there's a "no" option? Meaning people who disagree can also vote?

Again, it's not about liking or disliking, and you're an idiot for saying that.

Posted by William on Friday, 05.25.07 @ 23:35pm


The best band of rock in the world.

Posted by Stefanie on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 08:28am


Are you kidding!!!! if they do not get in i will be floored!! they are one the most influential bands out there. They even started the who "Unplugged" movement. BON JOVI ROCKS!!!!!!!

Posted by jennifer on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 08:41am


I am a great fan of BJ. I do have a favourite song of all time and that is Blood on Blood. It was not a single, and it came out in the 80's. I am also one of the lucky one's going to the SOLD OUT concert at the O2 Centre in June. If this does not prove that they should be induced in the HOF, I don't know what is.

Another thing, Nickelback was support last year for BJ in the HAND tour, so Nickelback were influenced by BJ all those years ago.

So for those musically challenged people, don't mock what you don't know about.

Posted by Michelle on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 09:09am


"I do have a favourite song of all time and that is Blood on Blood. It was not a single, and it came out in the 80's. I am also one of the lucky one's going to the SOLD OUT concert at the O2 Centre in June.
If this does not prove that they should be induced in the HOF, I don't know what is.
So for those musically challenged people, don't mock what you don't know about."

Our bad. If I had realized that Michelle had a favorite song AND was going to a concert in June.... well-- that changes everything.

Posted by shawn mc on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 09:33am


**********BON JOVI IS A REALLY STAR************WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, WHEN THE STARS COME HERE...THIS LIGHT ILUMINATE ALL THE WORLD, PUT YOUR BJ´VOTES, FOR ALL FANS, BJ IS THE ELEGIBLE, BJOVI FOR EVER...I LOVE TO BON JOVI, Í WANT THAT COME HERE TO MEXICO CITY, I´M FROM MOTERREY, N.L., MEX....I´M STEEL WAITING FOR YOU BON....WITH ALL MY LOVE, ELENA REYES M...FROM MONTERREY FOR ALL WORLD...HURRA HURRA BON JOVI EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!**************************

Posted by HeLeNa on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 09:48am


"BJOVI FOR EVER...I LOVE TO BON JOVI, Í WANT THAT COME HERE...HURRA HURRA BON JOVI EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!**************************"

These are your minions, jaskaran. Congratulations.

BTW, I was not aware that Bon Jovi is also a verb. Do you people get together and "Bon Jovi" one another? Ugh.

Posted by shawn mc on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 11:01am


the best rock band of the world!
a part of me!BON JOVI/FOREVER!
Brasil loves you!

Posted by Anderson Lins on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 11:36am


Bon Jovi es la mejor banda del mundo y del universo, es una banda que influencio demasiado en el heavy metal.

Posted by Efrain on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 18:17pm


Yo conozco Bon Jovi desde el primer disco y me volví fanático cuando me dí cuenta que no había un solo tema que no me guste. Son para mi lo mejor de lo mejor!!!

Posted by Gabriel Marian on Saturday, 05.26.07 @ 23:07pm


YES for BJ

Posted by Eric on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 08:53am


Bon Jovi es actualmente la mejor banda de rock, no tiene rivales ademas de U2.
Sin duda merecen entrar al salon de la fama por meritos propios.

Posted by Roko on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 13:04pm


of course!bon jovi is the best band around the world, they adapted ther music according the time we areliving, the music of the 80s was amazing, of the 90s too and the actual music is so great! bon joci has the most amazing guitarist, MR. SAMBORA! omg! this guy isincredible, and tico torres? he is the best!, and dave bryan is so good!,yes, of curse they will get it!

Posted by cloe on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 18:50pm


"they adapted ther music according the time we areliving"-cloe

That's not actually a plus for them. That's just admitting that they're the opposite of innovative.

Posted by William on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 20:24pm


Bon Jovi are undoubtably RRHOF material! I fail to understand the mentality of people who claim that they are a "nostalgia act" or no longer relevant! This band is STILL SELLING OUT STADIUMS some 20 years after their "heyday".Reinventing their sound and songwriting skills, staying current. I have literally grown-up on them. Bon Jovi has legions of loyal fans! 100,000,000 albums sold... enough said!

Posted by Amie Morales on Sunday, 05.27.07 @ 23:38pm


No one's calling them a "nostalgia act." They're calling them unoriginal, and rightly so.

Posted by William on Monday, 05.28.07 @ 00:17am


Over 20 years in the music industry bringing constant joy to their fans. Everyone knows their songs ... and the fact that they can still draw a crowd, and sell cd's at the rate they do ... they must be inducted. A great tribute to a wonderful band.

Posted by Denny on Monday, 05.28.07 @ 17:05pm


None of that actually matters because it does not have anything to do with actually impacting the musical world. If you completely removed Bon Jovi from history, music as we know it today would be almost entirely unchanged. They are insignificant.

Posted by William on Monday, 05.28.07 @ 20:10pm


William, you make me smile... YOU are insignificant

Nirvana is dead, the grunge is dead and is INSIGNIFICANT, but NOT Bon Jovi, NOT their music

Posted by Ronald on Monday, 05.28.07 @ 22:46pm


Actually, there are still many, many bands trying to imitate Pearl Jam (who just happen to be grunge). How many Bon Jovi copycats can you think of today or ever?

Posted by William on Monday, 05.28.07 @ 23:12pm



How many ? The Calling, Nickelback, Hoobastank, My Chemical Romance are influenced by Bon Jovi, and in 80's, when BJ is born, many many band are make like BJ, the same style of music: Poison, Cinderella, Skid Row, even Alice Cooper or Aerosmith are influenced in the 80's ! and they say ! because they (Bon Jovi) are reinvented the US Rock at the end of the 80's: with Wanted Dead or Alive, the acoustique guitare is back to the radio in 1986, and the sound of Slippery album or New Jersey album was very modern in the 80's, and much better that the other band of their generation...

William, how many Nirvana copycats can you think of today or ever ? who ? poor bands, sure ! Pearl Jam are the best, but it's all... the other are bad, and inpopular

Posted by Ronald on Tuesday, 05.29.07 @ 04:11am


sorry for my anglish not terrible, but i'm european...

Posted by Ronald on Tuesday, 05.29.07 @ 04:18am


Yeah Even Aerosmith rode on the Jovi wave.
Here's one of the Blender magazine articles:
http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=1984

Posted by David on Tuesday, 05.29.07 @ 05:06am


nice man!!!!!!it is true!!!!!!William now you are speachless,you cant nothing to say aaaaaaaa!!!!they are just the best!!!!!!

Posted by kleman on Tuesday, 05.29.07 @ 05:29am


thank you David !

Posted by Ronald on Tuesday, 05.29.07 @ 06:39am


So why are you talking about Nirvana since I clearly wasn't. I could pull a random band out of my ass, too, but it wouldn't have anything to do with anything.

It's funny that you list Nickelback since they're actually one of the Pearl Jam clones I was talking about. There are no Bon Jovi clones because nothing Bon Jovi did had not already been done before. You also list some hair metal acts, but BJ was a tiny cog in the greater hair metal scene. You cannot honestly point to them and say they had any significant input on a scene that was already in strength when they formed and did not seriously change because of them. Again, minimal influence. Much, much less than is needed.

MCR? Well, since we seem to be so fond of AMG, check their page. See that list of artists under Influences? You know what the difference is between BJ and most of those listed? MCR actually sound like those artists. The Cure, The Smiths, Smashing Pumpkins, you can actually hear those influences in their music. That is to say, their actual influences kind of INFLUENCED their sound. Fancy that. Now on the rare, rare occasions that I run across MCR, I do not hear any Bon Jovi in their music. Similarly, anything I might hear in Motley Crue or Poison, even if they did take it from BJ, could not be attributed to BJ at all. Nothing. There is not one thing you can point to that no other band before or at that time was doing. Hell, look at Bon Jovi's list of arena rock influences. They sound more like their influences than any band you named sounds like them. That's a sign of unoriginality. No points.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 05.29.07 @ 08:33am


ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE
ALL YOU NEED TO SURVIVE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF SOUL... AND GOOD FRIENDS

THIS LOVE, THIS SOUL, AND THIS FRIENDS, IT'S... BON JOVI
THANKS FOR ALL GUYS...

PEACE

[IMG]http://i12.tinypic.com/4l8eqag.jpg[/IMG]

Posted by Caroline on Tuesday, 05.29.07 @ 13:54pm


William,since you brought up AMG again

Followers

* Damn Yankees
* Skid Row
* Slaughter
* Ugly Kid Joe
* Sutra
* Atello
* Vending Machine
* Damone
* Roses Are Red
* Bo Bice
* Sunrise Avenue
* Lovex
* The Benjamins
And if you check out their page,it says Bon Jovi as one of the influences.

Posted by David on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 04:19am


THANKS AGAIN DAVID!!!!!I KNOW IN MY COUNTRY FIVE BAND WHO WERE INFLUENCED BY BON JOVI AND THEY SAD BON JOVI,NOT GROUPS LIKE KISS,MONTLY CRUE OR SCORPIONS!!!!THEIR SONGS ARE ENIUQE!!!!

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 04:40am


To be to our side with its songs and so that they give it everything to his.I publish and are the motor that moves my world I want greetings to you from Spain.
Sorry for my english is a little bad.Kisses for all.

Posted by rebeca on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 05:14am


"William,since you brought up AMG"-David

Well actually I didn't bring it up, and certainly not "again." I was using it explicitly because it had already been brought up.

Okay, I see that list. I saw it the first time. I have eyes. Now tell me something about those bands. In what way exactly are they influenced by them? And do you really think that list is substantial enough? Most every artist on AMG has a comparable list. Once again, Bon Jovi already has zero innovation, so to qualify, they'll need influence out the ass, and they don't have it. None of their "followers" carry a distinctly Bon Jovi sound (in part because there is no distinctly Bon Jovi sound). They mostly sound like a product of their times.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 09:57am


hey William, "BJ already has zero innovation" ? and the Rolling Stones ? no more, and WE DON'T CARE !!!!!!

Posted by Rob on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 11:55am


You could start listing the bands influenced by the Stones (and that actually show that influence in their music) and keep going for hours. The same cannot be said for Bon Jovi.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 13:22pm


They influenced Damn Yankees and that's your arguement? That might be more relevant in a war crimes tribunal.

Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 13:35pm


the Stones play blues ! the blues of Chicago, the blues of Muddy Waters (the idol of the Stones), the rock & roll of Chuck Berry, Willie Dixon and other ! in 70's, the Stones play country, like Johnny Cash or Bob Dylan, they play the disco music (Emotional Rescue, Miss You), and in the 80's, the Stones play FM Rock...

and Mike Jagger say, at the end of the 80's: "Bon Jovi are the new Rolling Stones..."

Posted by Rob on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 14:37pm


"They influenced Damn Yankees and that's your arguement? That might be more relevant in a war crimes tribunal."

Indeed. Akin to me boasting that the stench of my bowel movement influenced you to vomit.

Posted by shawn mc on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 15:49pm


So your arguement is that the Stones had no influence? I mean, that's what you think? Seriously? You've done all the research, sat in a nice quiet room, thought about it, evaluated all the information, and that's what you came up with? Really? That's what you think?

The Stones played the blues, they played them with a swagger and an oozing low-class style that was unmatched. They were the edgiest act on Ed Sullivan, they were the boys in black hats to counter-balance The Beatles' fresh-faced good little boys image. Mick had a swagger and an oozing sexuality that has been palely imitated by everyone from Iggy Pop to Steven Tyler.

The Stones played country at a time when country was a bad word. Dylan set the scene for country rock with Nashville Skyline, but it wasn't exactly well-recieved. When the Stones made their first country-tinged song (the eponymous song on Let It Bleed, 1969) there was a very severe divide between country fans and rock fans. It was The Stones, The Band, and Stones associate Gram Parsons who bridged that gap. Also, Gram was present and a contributor to Exile on Main Street, considered their masterpiece. But no, yeah, they had no influence or innovation, right?

Posted by Kit on Wednesday, 05.30.07 @ 17:38pm


I will put as much money as you like, with anyone who thinks Jovi won't make the HOF. Like em or hate em, they WILL get in. They are one of the greatest bands ever! Maybe not influencial, but an amazingly successful band and I guarantee they will get in.

Posted by Ryan hammond on Thursday, 05.31.07 @ 00:01am


Saying they will get in is very different from saying they should get in, which they shouldn't. I won't bother arguing the definition of greatness with you because it's a waste of my time, but if you're admitting they have no influence, and it's obvious that they lack innovation, how exactly are they qualified to get in at all?

Simply put, they aren't.

Posted by William on Thursday, 05.31.07 @ 01:06am


"Mick had a swagger and an oozing sexuality that has been palely imitated by everyone from Iggy Pop to Steven Tyler." Kit



woooooo, GREAT ARGUMENT Kit !! it's amazing !! yeah!! congratulation !!
ha ha ha ha ha ha... ok William, Kit and Shawn mc on you're funny guys, bye bye now, you're the best critics of all the time !!

ha ha ha ha...

Posted by Rob on Thursday, 05.31.07 @ 06:20am


BON JOVI THE BEST!!!!
POR SUPUESTO DEBEN SER INCLUIDOS!!!!
GRACIAS BON JOVI X EXISTIR! SOS LO MEJOR Q ME PASO EN LA VIDA!!!

SALUDOS DESDE BUENOS AIRES!

Posted by FAITH WILD on Thursday, 05.31.07 @ 10:46am


Bon Jovi is a legend and they should be included in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame...

They sold more than 120 million records...

Posted by Joe on Thursday, 05.31.07 @ 13:20pm


They have more No.1 songs than a lot of bands, and they still make great music, just hear this songs:

"It's My Life"
"Living On A Prayer"
"Always"

Posted by Juan on Thursday, 05.31.07 @ 13:24pm


Bon Jovi won a Grammy because their Country song "Who Says You Can't Go Home", and how many bands could been success with a song of other genre.....???

Just Bon Jovi....¡¡¡

Posted by Sandra on Thursday, 05.31.07 @ 13:29pm


Kit, you made a good argument, but saying Mick Jagger has "oozing sexuality" is scary. That guy is like a freak. Do you not recall the Eddie Murphy bit on that one - where he says the mere fact that one is a singer, you can get laid because "Mick Jagger isan ugly mother fucker." Sorry but, if you are going to talk about sexuality, I would have to give the edge to BJ - at least that is what the women say.

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 06.1.07 @ 05:55am


Thanks Anonymous!!!!It is true.I think that JON BON JOVI should must be an idol for other artists!!!!He has one wife for 20 years and 4 kids,without any divorce!!!Thats amazing for rock star!!!!

Posted by kleman on Friday, 06.1.07 @ 06:53am


Anon, I certainly wasn't stating my own preference for people who look like Mick. The phrase oozing sexuality was tying back into the swagger. Mick may be an ugly motherfucker, but it's his charisma that got him the girls. He also fit the mold of the dangerous type, which also made him more attractive in the eyes of the gals. John Bon Jovi is not within three bus stops of the dangerous type. He is the safe cooke cutter "heartthrob" with minimal natural charisma.

ps: My mom thinks Mick was cute, but perhaps there should be a huge emphasis put on "was".

Posted by Kit on Friday, 06.1.07 @ 14:21pm


" (Jon Bon Jovi) is the safe cooke cutter "heartthrob" with minimal natural charisma."

Keith Partridge with a soar throat.

Posted by shawn mc on Friday, 06.1.07 @ 15:51pm


GO TO BON JOVI CONCERT AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT CHARISMA IS!!!!!!

Posted by kleman on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 02:51am


Yeah, it's being able to sell those tickets with a straight face and clear conscience.

Posted by Kit on Saturday, 06.2.07 @ 10:18am


They are very special.
They embrace every kind of styme (metal, rock, blues, country and ballads).

With more than 20 years they're still on road to make Big Show.
Their songs couldbe national anthem but they make my life more beautifull...

I've never seen them because i'm living in the middle of nowhere. But i'll very soon...

Posted by Julien on Sunday, 06.3.07 @ 04:39am


I don't know why, but I'm stunned by the venom and anger on this thread. The "innovation and influence" argument can debated for a LOT of bands--especially innovation. Seriously, with few exceptions, how many bands can be called "innovative" without someone else making an argument that another band did the same thing before? Bon Jovi, for better or worse, played an instrumental role in the music of the 80's. "Slippery When Wet" was a monumental album and I've heard dozens of musicians cite it and the band as an influence. Was it totally original? No. Was it influential? Yes. It opened the flood gates for countless other copy-cat bands, most of whom are now no where to be found.

Richard Rodgers once said, "Too many people still believe that there are only two kinds of women and two kinds of music--one too popular to be good, the other too good to be popular." Bon Jovi has never gotten the credit they deserve, partly due to people who are bothered by the subsequent formulaic success and others who seemed to believe that only unattractive people can be legitimate musicians.

I agree that many of the posters here probably know nothing more than the band's radio hits; but who among us knows a band's full catalog if we're NOT a fan? That said, JBJ and Richie Sambora have produced some great songs, both musically and lyrically. "Keep the Faith" and "These Days" contain some amazing songs that the mainstream never heard. Although I'll give an argument for "Keep the Faith" itself, a song that WAS played on the radio and still gives me chills when I hear it. It's not formula Bon Jovi, took a big turn from their prior releases, and lyrically was more thoughtful than they'd done previously.
Do I think the band will be inducted? Maybe someday but I wouldn't be surprised if they're not. I DO think their career speaks for itself, whether you detractors think so or not. It makes me laugh that they are getting criticized for evolving, rather than staying stuck in the 80's with the big hair and same old songs. This band IS still relevant, to a lot of people. The fact that they are still selling albums to the extent that they are and selling out stadiums is not small feat. I don't love everything they do, but I respect that they have remained true to who they are and have chosen to take risks at times. "This Left Feels Right" was a commercial flop but actually VERY innovative--they took their own songs and reworked them into something totally different. Some of it I liked, some of it I didn't, but I give them props for trying. I challenge anyone to find a band who is better live, and a front man who can hold the audience in the palm of his hand the way JBJ does. (Steven Tyler has basically said the same thing.)
Finally, the band's philanthropic endeavors shouldn't be ignored; neither should their loyalty towards one another. Hell, the lack of scandal and bad behavior might in and of itself be called innovative...

Posted by Nancy on Sunday, 06.3.07 @ 08:49am


Boys and girls thats the speak!!!!!Thanks Nancy!!!!!!

Posted by kleman on Sunday, 06.3.07 @ 09:34am


"The "innovation and influence" argument can debated for a LOT of bands--especially innovation. Seriously, with few exceptions, how many bands can be called "innovative" without someone else making an argument that another band did the same thing before?"-Nancy

If it can be argued, then argue it. Back up your accusation.

"It opened the flood gates for countless other copy-cat bands, most of whom are now no where to be found."-Nancy

Name a few.

"Bon Jovi has never gotten the credit they deserve, partly due to people who are bothered by the subsequent formulaic success and others who seemed to believe that only unattractive people can be legitimate musicians."-Nancy

If I cared about success or looks, I wouldn't support the Beatles or David Bowie. That's entirely irrelevant.

"t makes me laugh that they are getting criticized for evolving, rather than staying stuck in the 80's with the big hair and same old songs."-Nancy

Except it's not really an evolution. It's the equivalent of going from one miniature golf course to another and claiming to be a pro golfer. They might be goofing around and trying things that are sort of new for them, but nothing they've done could be considered "new" by any stretch.

Posted by William on Sunday, 06.3.07 @ 11:53am


"This band IS still relevant, to a lot of people."

Nancy, regardless of whether I can get on board with Bon Jovi's significance, I have to tell you I enthusiastically respect your thoughtful and intelligent arguments for them. Thank you for being the rare rational and well formed voice in support of this band. You almost convince me.

Posted by shawn mc on Sunday, 06.3.07 @ 13:36pm


Bon Jovi is the best rock band in the world. Forever.

Posted by Javier on Sunday, 06.3.07 @ 17:32pm


Just an average band that managed to stay in light for many years

Posted by roméo on Monday, 06.4.07 @ 04:04am


If Bon Jovi don´t deserve being inducted into the RnR Hall of Fame, who does?
They´ve been successfull for so many years, sold millions of records and their concerts simply rock.
They truly are the best rock band ever!

Posted by Kissy on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 00:55am


"If Bon Jovi don´t deserve being inducted into the RnR Hall of Fame, who does? "-Kissy

I don't know. People who have actually impacted music in a permanent and significant way? People who create entirely new sounds or influence others to copy or incorporate those sounds into their own music? People who are at the forefront of entire genres and without whom those genres might not exist?

People like you honestly disgust me. You don't care at all about music, you just want to put on some background noise for your boring life. You have no interest in educating yourself, you just co-opt your opinions from VH1 and whatever trash music magazines you might run across. You're not a businessman, but you argue in terms of sales data because it's the only way you can think of to justify success. Congratulations, you bought an album that millions of others also bought. Don't you feel special.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 10:30am


F You dude.
I love music, and you know what I love Bon Jovi.

Posted by Brian on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 15:46pm


Neither of those precludes the other. There's shit in my CD collection that isn't exactly earth-shattering material, but there's a time for being entertained and a time to actually put a little effort into it. People don't read Albert Camus because they're bored, they read it because they appreciate the art of literature. I don't think I'm off the mark in saying that most (indeed, the vast majority) of Bon Jovi's fans just like the sound and like being part of something. They're not interested in learning about music beyond the bare minimum.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.5.07 @ 20:01pm


ou're not a businessman, but you argue in terms of sales data because it's the only way you can think of to justify success. Congratulations, you bought an album that millions of others also bought. Don't you feel special.-william

Then tell me you Green Day fan what is the difference beetwen green day albums and BJ albums!Green day albums also bought a million others.Do you feel very special, smart guy?

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 06.6.07 @ 03:30am


Absolutely without a doubt. They should be in .

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Posted by Garret on Friday, 06.8.07 @ 07:06am


>1989_MTV UNPLUGGED = innovation and influence
>In 1989, the band headlined the Moscow Music Peace Festival.=innovation and influence
> the first Rock & Roll Band to have a #1 hit on Billboard's Hot Country Chart.=innovation
40 million albums in the United States and over 120 million albums worldwide.
On November 14, 2006, Bon Jovi were inducted into the UK Music Hall of Fame alongside James Brown and Led Zeppelin, joining music legends such as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, U2, Madonna and Elvis Presley.

Posted by max brazil on Sunday, 06.10.07 @ 10:10am


"..Bon Jovi were inducted into the UK Music Hall of Fame alongside James Brown and Led Zeppelin, joining music legends such as The Beatles.."


EGAD! Come right this way to my study, let me show you my collection of valuables - there is my Heisman Trophy, there is my 15th century Ming Dynasty vase, there is my Moon rock from the first Apollo landing, and here is some poop on a stick alongside.

Posted by shawn mc on Sunday, 06.10.07 @ 14:07pm


Apparently someone didn't get the memo. We're talking about MUSICAL innovation, as in doing things with your sound that have not been done before. Hitting #1 on the Country charts is in no way "innovation" as the Hall defines it, nor is allegedly starting a TV show where bands play acoustic sets.

Posted by William on Sunday, 06.10.07 @ 18:15pm


shawn mc on, william... stupid puppet, oh la la !!

hey, BJ fans, i'm french, and i have (since today, yes !!) the new BJ album, Lost Highway, and he's "pure", very "pure", the best album since These Days !!!! really... my heart beat like a drum, LH is wonderfull... he make cried, because he's so beautifull...

Richie, we love you, you're the best... PEACE AND LOVE

Posted by fred on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 13:50pm


A) William and I have been called stupid puppets (oh la la). I'm actually more of a Muppet.

B) "really... my heart beat like a drum.."
If you remove the gerbil from your ass I'm guessing the heart rate will slow.

C) Did somebody'd French parents actually name them "Fred"? Isn't that like being named "Booger" over here?

Posted by shawn mc on Monday, 06.11.07 @ 14:01pm


I have to agree with William here. Bon Jovi changed, but did not evolve. I mean him doing a country / rock sound was not innovative at all, it was just copying others long before him...

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, 06.15.07 @ 20:41pm


I am a Bon Jovi fan, and I do hope that they get into the HOF because I truly believe they deserve it - they definitely are one of the most successful rock bands of recent time.

120 million records sold. Sellout tours. Surviving 24 years so far in this business is monumental success in itself. They have crossed three generations worth of fans. I know ten/eleven year olds who cite them as their "favourite band" and know their songs right back to their self-titled debut album. They know lyrics to most of the SWW songs. They beg their parents for the next Bon Jovi album, and also their old ones. One of them even asked for a guitar for is birthday so he could be like Richie Sambora. David Bryan has inspired me to return to keyboard playing - a once huge passion of mine - and I learned a deeper appreciation for the art and skill that goes into what he does. The power of their collective sound is incredible.

I know, I know... all this may not 'qualify' BJ for HOF because it may seem insignificant and unimportant. But how can one say that they haven't been influential, when I see little children who were only born a decade ago, saying that they want to be just like Jon Bon Jovi and be real musicians when they want to grow up, with Bon Jovi's music inspiring the dreams of a whole new generation? Influence is more than just for influencing other musicians and the industry. Its for society - contributing to society, and influencing public perceptions and acceptance of music.

I define influence in how a person's or group's actions can impact someone in seemingly the smallest, and yet most meaningful way. In my opinion, Bon Jovi has inspired an appreciation for music that had been dying in recent years, and their appeal to today's generation is greatly important and hard to miss. Their ability to trascend the traditional problems facing musicians in the notoriously difficult music business and reach new generations of fans shows how they adapt to new trends in the music industry.

My point is... whether BJ get into the HOF or not, I don't think they particularly care. They've stated that such accolades are not why they are in the business. But to me, they have been so influential in getting younger generations to appreciate music they would never have otherwise given a chance, and shown that great music does not need to be so reliant on digital technology to reach people.

Innovation is a rarity these days - all the impacting, most meaningul and lasting musical achievements have been achieved in one way or another. But just because something's been done before, doesn't mean it is any less good or inspiring... as new generations of fans get inspired by music that has been done before, and newer bands find inspiration to follow in the footsteps of those who have achieved before them.

Bon Jovi have survived this long in a difficult business. That has to say something for the band's abilities.

Posted by Lizzie on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 08:37am


"nfluence is more than just for influencing other musicians and the industry."-Lizzie

No, it isn't. That's the definition the hall uses because as far as music is concerned, that's the definition that matters.

"Innovation is a rarity these days"-Lizzie

No it isn't.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 10:44am


I agree with much of what you say here William. Except for the innovation comment. I think there are much less unique sounds today (not that it does not exist). Just by the mere time factor, virtually everything has been done already. I am not saying that bands cannot be influential or innovative today (i.e. in 2007), it is just much harder now since so much of it has been done. How many bands do you hear today, and say, that sounds just like_______ (fill in the blank). It is not necessarily a bad thing, just inevitable with the passage of time...

Note: this point really does not even apply to Jovi because he has been around since the 1980's and when given the chance to be innovative, he was really not...so there I would agree...

Posted by Anon on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 12:39pm


Yes so what,but they are still third most payed artist(touring) in the world behind Rolling Stones and Madona that is also inovative that only band from 80s servive all kinds of rock era!!!Tell me one band from 80s who is more succesfull of BJ?There is no band!!!They are normal guys who doing rock n roll,they are not some drunk peoples or on drug,that is something inovative aaaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted by kleman on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 13:51pm


Concert tickets are not innovative, there are tons of bands who survived the 80s unscathed, there are plenty of sober musicians, you're an idiot.

Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 13:57pm


Anon, I see your point but I kind of disagree. THere are tons of bands out there doing new and strange things with the rock/pop format. The problem is that almost all of them take it somewhere both different and difficult, making the scene in general very fragmented and ensuring that none of these things are heard by a mass audience. Because none of the new innovations has been able to hit a mass nerve, the mainstream rock charts are now in their thirteenth year of limp shitty post-grunge. But for the people who have the time and know where to look, music has never been better.

Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 14:01pm


hahahahahaha yeah,tell me one who sold 130 mil record(only u2)!

Posted by kleman on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 14:05pm


there are tons of bands who survived the 80s unscathed, there are plenty of sober musicians, you're an idiot.- kit

I dont think survived,i mean succesfull!!Not just sell tickets,sell out stadiums!!!

Posted by kleman on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 14:08pm


Kit and William you wont win and you guys cant win in this argue!!!!!
Sory

There is toooo many Bon Jovi fans!!!!!

Posted by kleman on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 14:12pm


But what if one of you loses the one brain cell you all share? Then where will you be?

Posted by Kit on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 14:22pm


Aw, but I weawwy wanted to win this argue.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 18:51pm


Kit, I agree with what you are saying, but my point is that it was a lot easier to be innovative and influential in the 60's and early 70's when rock was essentially in its infancy...yes it can still be done now, but I think it is much harder to do now....thats really all I was trying to say...the main point though since this is a Jovi blog, he DID have the chance to be innovative and he was not, despite how many tickets he sold

And, Kleman, you say you "can't win" to WIlliam and Kit - guess what?? They have won - last time I checked Jovi is NOT in the hall. I think that makes it 2-0 - idiot! So, until Jovi gets in, you're a loser, as in not a winner!

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 19:12pm


the main point though since this is a Jovi blog, he DID have the chance to be innovative and he was not, despite how many tickets he sold-Anonymous

Wtf are you saying,why inovative,they werent and they were still one of the best bands in 80s,their song living in a prayer was best song in 80s peoples sad on VH1(2007),so wtf.......These guys are who they are, they do not pretend to be someone else.Thats the point,they are not so inovative,but the are still one of best band in rock history and relevant 25 years.

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 06.20.07 @ 01:18am


VH1 said it?! Holy crap, that changes everything!

Posted by William on Wednesday, 06.20.07 @ 09:16am


No you ass peoples sad that,it was published on vh1!!!!

Posted by kleman on Wednesday, 06.20.07 @ 10:09am


That doesn't really help. I don't know if you've seen VH1 lately, but it's essentially MTV for 30-year-olds.

Always question the objectivity of an entertainment media. That also includes trash magazines like Rolling Stone.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 06.20.07 @ 12:25pm


"There is toooo many Bon Jovi fans!!!!!"

They are the walking undead. They roam the earth in search of brains to eat....
right after they purchase the latest awesome Bon Jovi release, Lost Highway... IN STORES NOW!!!!

Verrree rock uhnt roll, kleman; YAW!!! Bon Jovis are da greatest in za verld; they are almost as rock uhnt roll vunderful as David Hasselhoff, no?

Posted by shawn mc on Thursday, 06.21.07 @ 19:02pm


The shop in my town has to give away a Bon Jovi guitar pick and magnet with every CD sold.

Maybe the magnet will "accidentally" erase the CD a couple times.

Posted by William on Thursday, 06.21.07 @ 20:32pm


Anyone who needs a list of how BJ has been innovative and relevant in the industry could check out this page. http://www.musicbizadvice.com/case_study_why_bon_jovi_is_music_business_101.htm

Posted by DK on Thursday, 07.5.07 @ 02:47am


eles merecem, são os maiores do mundo...

Posted by Christiano on Thursday, 07.12.07 @ 15:11pm


Bon Jovi will absolutly get into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame! They have had hits in the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. Bon Jovi has influenced many people. They are my favorite bad!!!! Bon Jovi Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Emily on Monday, 07.16.07 @ 14:32pm


Bon Jovi ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE BON JOVI!!!!!!!!!!11

Posted by Em on Monday, 07.16.07 @ 14:40pm


If a band were to write a cliche hit would they get into the HOF? What if they wrote a bunch of cliche hits? What if these cliche hits inspired more cliche bands like them? Quality over quantity, BJ doesn't deserve the HOF.

Posted by someone important on Wednesday, 08.1.07 @ 15:59pm


hey matt....it's such a shame u didn't get ur dad a present (that bonJovi cd)...that would have made him happy and feel loved....u know u should do things to people u care about even against ur will for the sake of making them happy coz u wouldn't know if u will have the chance in the future....i feel bad for your dad...
btw, bon jovi should go in...they're good examples to everyone and with music...they're the best!

Posted by AndreaDora on Thursday, 08.2.07 @ 18:58pm


Hey look at all of the music fascists out there! I couldn't care less if Jovi got in to the hall or not, it is not going to change the fact that they are one of the very few bands or artists (Stones aside) who have sold over 100 million records and played to over 100 million people, not bad for a hair band!!!!!!

Posted by Gaz on Tuesday, 08.7.07 @ 05:23am


They have been around for over 20 years and they aren't just playing their "oldies" but making new songs which are awesome. They have got staying power too which is not what I can say about alot of other bands (i.e. Motley Cruz, Poison, Cinderella, all the other hair bands of the 80's) That was the 80's is 2007 and Bon Jovi is still rocking the house!!!! Hall of Fame??? Hell Yea!!!

Posted by IreneBonJovi on Thursday, 08.9.07 @ 11:47am


You'd be surprised at the number of '80s holdovers who stuck around into the aughts, so BJ isn't unique in that respect (or any).

Posted by William on Thursday, 08.9.07 @ 18:28pm


"I couldn't care less if Jovi got in to the hall or not, it is not going to change the fact that they are one of the very few bands or artists (Stones aside) who have sold over 100 million records and played to over 100 million people, not bad for a hair band!!!!!!"-Gaz

If by "very few" you mean "about eighty," then yeah. Aside from Bon Jovi, only a scant few seventy-nine or so bands have ever sold that much. That's clearly a small number and not a very large one.

Sorry, I'm about to choke on all this sarcasm.

Posted by William on Thursday, 08.9.07 @ 18:31pm


Pointless argument. BJ is going to Hall of Fame no matter what. Damn right.

You American don't know how much BJ have influenced outside USA. I see how the band rock our music charts dramatically. Many local bands have been influenced. Many people are drawn to Rock genre because of BJ. This band is influencial and successful enough. The band has known by many across world-wide. Yeah, their songs and lyrics may sound too simple and unintellectual (i totally disagree with this) to you poseur taste who pretend to be artistic superior. Mind you. Say as you like. But many people can relate to their songs. It's that simple. Get a life. People can get surprisingly stupid when they have learned too much (or haven't learned at all but pretend to be all cool and smart) and finally build a wall of bias full of their so-called professionalism and critism. You can no longer accept a good pleasant rock that simply sounds good. You need something that sounds strange and unpleasant that can make your ears deaf and can beat your brain to dead. All you can do is to spoil good things that doesn't fit your so-called standard. Shame on you. I feel sorry for you. Debating a no-brainer question over the internet seems to me you don't have anything better to do. Go get a job and contribute something better to society and maybe I will appreciate you more. You know who I'm talking about.

At least JBJ has a unique voice that I will recognize immediately when listening to any new BJ song through radio, even though I don't see their faces. I think this factor is important because not many artists sound so uniquely these days. Surely JBJ has some uniqueness which I appreciate. They produce songs to make a statement they want to say to the world, not following a mainstream R&B hiphop bullshit (Thank you so much). BJ have some magic and power to stay in music industry nowadays not being washed away by other newer generation. Such strength shouldn't be gone unnoticed. They need to have some good things to survive this long. Bon Jovi also bring Rock genre to mainstream, make a non-rock music fans have a chance to get a glimpse at Rock and may want to go further and deeper into the genre. They do have some influence. Admit the fact.

----------------
Aw, but I weawwy wanted to win this argue.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 06.19.07 @ 18:51pm
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This is the most stupid, childish statement I've ever seen. Look like there are some kids who want to win his pathetic game here. Grow up kids. There are many other things you can do for the world and society apart from bashing BJ. Maybe you can do some charity to the poor like Jon Bon Jovi has done, but I doubt you can do anything useful at all.

Posted by Rash on Friday, 08.10.07 @ 17:17pm


Do you just have a problem with satire or something? I get that the idea of non-literal meaning might confuse some lower primates, but I expect better from my fellow humans.

Look, influence is a matter of scale, and innovation is a no-brainer. Either you are or you aren't, and Bon Jovi certainly is not. So lacking innovation, they're dependent on influence, and they don't have it either. Get over it.

Posted by William on Friday, 08.10.07 @ 18:03pm


You guys are still arguing?

I think the poll result says it all. :)

Posted by Doby on Saturday, 08.11.07 @ 14:32pm


Yeah, 36%, which roughly equates to "No."

Posted by William on Saturday, 08.11.07 @ 16:55pm


É A MAIOR BANDA DE HARD ROCK DO PLANETA!!!!!!
LIVIN ON A PRAYER ...BAD NAME.....THE BEST SONGS
OF DE DECADE 80........SLIPPERY RULESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Posted by RODRIGO FRANÇA on Monday, 08.13.07 @ 14:13pm


fuck off. CHARISMA?

yeah, i mean, if you find teenage angst ridden soppy love tunes to be charismatic.

lyrically, its shit.
musically, its pitiful.
business wise, jon bon jovi deserves a medal.

'oooo-oh, we're halfway there/oooo-oh we're livin on a prayer' livin on a prayer - bon jovi

which is crap when compared to;

'i cast a shorter shadow with every passin day/no time to think im just fadin away' Tears - the Stone Roses (which in my opinion is one of the greatest lyrical achievements on one of the most obver looked albums of all time)

and

'and in a darkened underpass i thought "my god, my chance has comme at last"/but then a strange fear gripped me and i just couldnt ask' There is a Light that never goes out - The Smiths

Posted by liam on Tuesday, 08.28.07 @ 08:14am


bon jovi, 25 años haciendo musika!, son lo mejor, a pesar de todas las distancias siguen unidos!,
x algo el disco se llama: 1 millon de fan club bon jovi no pueden estar ekivokados

BON JOVI 4EVER

Posted by Jere on Sunday, 09.2.07 @ 16:12pm


it's so easy liam !! you take just Prayer !

(...)staring out the window, it's such a long way down
i'd like to jump, but i'm afraid to hit the ground(...)

or

i lost all faith in my god, in his religion too
i told the angels they could sing their songs to someone new...

or

walking in the footsteps
of society's lies
i don't like what i see no more
sometimes i wish that i was blind
sometimes i wait forever
to stand out in the rain
so no one sees me cryin'
trying to wash away the pain...

or

(...)their songs were more than music, they pictures from the soul, so keep your pseudo-punk, hip pop, pop rock junk and your digital downloads(...)

or

i've tried to need someone, like they needed me
i opened up my heart but all i did was bleed
i don't need a lover, just to get screwed
they don't make a bandage that's going to cover my bruise

or

across the border they turn water into wine
some say it's the devil's blood
they're squeezing from the vine
some say it's a saviour
in these hard and desperate times
for me it helps me to forget
that we're just born to die

or

in a bar, breathing smoke
snorting whiskey, drinking coke
it was a time when no one would die
and there wasn't a care...
just a boy, not a man
sent to war, in a land
they said we'd fight for their freedom
bit i felt like a hired hand...

or

(...)jilted lovers are like fireflies, each one with a spark, trying to fill the hole where once there was a heart(...)

or the fucking "i've seen a million faces, and i've rocked them all"

and other !!!! not just livin' on a prayer, you undertand in your little head ?? Prayer is a great rock song, very popular all around the world, a mythic song ! with optimist lyrics.. the lyrics from BJ songs are bad ? and The Beatles ? "love love me do, you know i love you", "ob-la-di-ob-la-da", "i want to hold your hand", "she love you yeah, yeah, yeah"... hum hum... this is a pop song ! like "satisfaction", or "hungry heart", or... "livin' on a prayer", ok ?

Posted by samuel (austria) on Sunday, 09.9.07 @ 13:31pm


sorry, but this is all coming from a fella who built his career around his 'looks'.

I didnt bother reading most of that 'comment', much like i didnt bother listening to most of bon jovi's 'music'.

Beatles will always be better and more respected than those twats

Posted by liam on Sunday, 09.9.07 @ 14:56pm


yes Liam becouse Beatles are Legends and they are dead:(,thats why they are more respected,it sound wird but thats it.And Beatles were living in 60s,back there wasnt so many artist as today and there was no computers so peoples were buying cd-s.Today is all about concerts AND THERE ARE BON JOVI FIRST CLASS,THEY ARE THE BEST,go to their concert and then you will see whats the real concert!!

Posted by kleman on Monday, 09.10.07 @ 05:27am


"yes Liam becouse Beatles are Legends and they are dead:(,thats why they are more respected,it sound wird but thats it"-kleman

Okay, I call BS.

1) I hope by "dead" you mean "disbanded," because only two of them (or three, depending on who you ask) are deceased.

2) Speaking as a person who is not a big Beatles fan at all, there is just reason for much of their success. They might get credit for a few things that they didn't do first (usually some studio trick George Martin found from other bands), they are undoubtedly among the most influential bands ever, and I don't toss superlatives like that around lightly.

"And Beatles were living in 60s,back there wasnt so many artist as today"-kleman

What does this have to do with anything?

"and there was no computers so peoples were buying cd-s."-kleman

1) Records, not CDs.

2) You've bought into the myth that downloading hurts record sales. It does not.

You don't need anyone's permission to like Bon Jovi, but until you can explain how they are in any way INNOVATIVE and/or INFLUENTIAL enough to qualify for induction, they don't get in.

Posted by William on Monday, 09.10.07 @ 05:49am



I don't see one single musical innovation on there. I see a bunch of things that have already been beaten half to death (once again, inspiring a TV show where people play a style of music that was the norm before electric and at no point was ever unpopular does not count), but how does that make up for a complete lack of original ideas within the music itself, where it matters?

Maybe they should start inducting agents and managers since apparently MUSIC isn't high on the list of priorities anymore.

Posted by William on Monday, 09.10.07 @ 07:42am


It is no use to argu with you William,you got always right..........(you think)!When BJ will come to HOF will you hang on a tree or what!!

BJ are innovative but you dont want to believe it

Posted by kleman on Monday, 09.10.07 @ 07:59am


"BJ are innovative but you dont want to believe it"

Well if it were true, i'd say to do as the just-above-mediocre Oasis album title states; Don't Believe the Truth.

But its not. And that fucking list shows no impact on music, just business.

William, you must show me how to press my views upon people by using links.

Posted by liam on Monday, 09.10.07 @ 11:59am


MOST INFLUENTIAL ROCK BANDS IN HISTORY????lol!!nirvana are more influential than bon jovi!bon jovi hav only a one good song!!that's:it's my life

Posted by marcel on Tuesday, 09.11.07 @ 15:49pm


marcel, thats one good song more than they ever had.

Posted by liam on Wednesday, 09.12.07 @ 14:02pm


BON JOVI IS THE BEST!!!!!!

I LOVE BON JOVI!!!
BON JOVI IT'S MY LIFE

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Posted by BafJexeasefs on Sunday, 09.16.07 @ 12:51pm


haha essential album, as if its actualy worth BUYING

Posted by liam on Saturday, 09.22.07 @ 12:19pm


Great band that's been around forever & still going strong - should have been nominated this time around - what happened here?????

Posted by Barb on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 20:51pm


"should have been nominated this time around - what happened here?????"-Barb

Eligible in 2008 (try reading), but I will piss blood if they get nominated during their first year, let alone inducted.

Sonic Youth '08!

Posted by William on Sunday, 09.30.07 @ 21:02pm


YES YES YES!

They really should be in!!




Greets from Argentina

Posted by Romina on Saturday, 10.20.07 @ 12:18pm


Bon Jovi is a LAME!!!!!!! 80's hair band who along with such other bands as Cinderella and Poison are the main reason I listened to Punk and "Undrground metal" instead of mainstream rock until Metallica finally achieved mainstream popularity in 88 and brought some respectability back to rock n roll

Posted by karl on Sunday, 10.28.07 @ 03:16am


HAHAHAHAHAHA,COME ON KARL GET REAL!!!!

Posted by kleman on Sunday, 10.28.07 @ 03:29am


There's no reason why Bon Jovi has not been inducted in the hall of fame yet. I also think Genesis should be in the Hall of Fame. Two very deserving bands that really need to get the recognition.

Posted by Jenny on Monday, 11.12.07 @ 11:36am


"There's no reason why Bon Jovi has not been inducted in the hall of fame yet"

Quite a few really:

1. Not eligible until 08
2. They are not innovative (Springsteen) or influential (Goo Goo Dolls...any others?)
3. They have a strong set of challenges in their eligibility, namely the Smiths, SRV, Run DMC and Pantera



and Bananarama could give them a run for their money

Posted by liam on Monday, 11.12.07 @ 12:28pm


I could write a book about the greats of Bon Jovi, but any real fan of music will already know: If anyone deserves to be in the rock hall, Bon Jovi is that anyone!

~Ashley Smith
from
Mansfield, OH

Posted by Ashley on Wednesday, 11.14.07 @ 19:40pm


"I could write a book about the greats of Bon Jovi, but any real fan of music will already know"-Ashley

Ah, the spurious insult mixed with circular logic! If we were "real fans of music," we'd agree with you. Since we don't, we must be fake fans of music.

What grade are you in, exactly, because I definitely remember this stuff being taught when I was in school.

Posted by William on Wednesday, 11.14.07 @ 19:48pm


Bon Jovi got inducted into the UK Music Hall of Fame in 2006.

I think Bon Jovi are possible of getting nominated and inducted to the RRHOF next year.

They are still around making new music 25 years later.

Posted by David on Wednesday, 11.14.07 @ 21:15pm


I start this by saying that I am not a Bon Jovi fan. In fact, I detest them. Their sound today sounds like the Backstreet Boys with guitars. However, having said that, there is no doubt that they belong. Using the basic criteria: They enjoy immense commercial success, both in sales and live shows to this day. They had one album that was off the bloody charts!! The question as to whether you liked those that they influenced is not material. Bands picked up on what they were doing and followed their formula. They found Cinderella and Skid Row and brought to the attention of the public. They have been around a very long time and have done quite a bit of chariatable work. Many of their songs will become what is known in the industry as "standards" and possibly be rerecorded by other artists for years to come. As for everyone calling them a chick-band; what the hell is wrong with that? Are you saying that women have no taste in music? Are you saying that if a chick goes to their shows that they are not redeemable in your eyes? I don't want to break the news to any of you manly rockers, but one of the main reasons we all went to Rock Clubs was to meet and pick-up "Rock" chicks. And you cannot deny that. Bon Jovi belongs in the RRHoF, but I still don't like them. Then I believe the RRHoF is a sham as is Wenner.

Posted by Frankie on Saturday, 11.24.07 @ 08:53am


Terrible, terrible music written by egually inadequate musicians. Completely lame. Bon Jovi is the most vile, ignorant and repetious hybrid of hair metal and Bruce Sprongsteen (the former being 'good' for about 5 minutes, the latter definitely deserving of induction).

Posted by micheal on Tuesday, 11.27.07 @ 10:22am


Bon Jovi deserves to be honored. Their aswesome and they just won a grammy last year! They are still touring and have amazing hits! Eighties rock!

Posted by Jennifer on Tuesday, 11.27.07 @ 12:43pm


I'd be less reluctant to est dog shit than pick up a grammy.

Posted by micheal on Tuesday, 11.27.07 @ 12:53pm


YES!!!!! BON JOVI YES!!!!!!!
THE BEST BAND!!!!!!
IT´S SO!!!!!!

Posted by karen on Sunday, 12.2.07 @ 12:00pm


bon jovi rocks!!!!i have loved this band sense i was 16.they keep on giving us great music and deserve to be in!!!!!!

Posted by renee on Wednesday, 12.5.07 @ 14:39pm


Bon Jovi definitely has enjoyed its share of commercial success- but, it's never been a critical fave, or an act who has been regarded as one of the greatest or most important of our time. But, having said that, the band absolutely would be considered before someone like Britney Spears.

Posted by JR on Friday, 12.7.07 @ 10:36am


Ele e o maximo!
Por isso merece ganhar!
Ok!

Posted by Laura de Souza on Monday, 12.17.07 @ 13:51pm


I think Bon Jovi themselves have said that they were heavily influenced by Journe (as fi it wasn't obvious). Having siad that, I believe they should eventually be inducted--but not before their major influence.

Posted by Joe on Sunday, 12.23.07 @ 22:11pm


BON JOVi!!!

The GOD's Hard ROCk !

remember 80's... bon jovi was the big band... now is sooo good too, but less than in 80's

bruno torquato,
Betim Minas Gerais -Brazil

Posted by Bruno Torquato on Saturday, 12.29.07 @ 10:21am


They must have had some some impact because they got 500 comments!

Posted by Metalsmith on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 12:14pm


Not really. I shouldn't have to explain why you're wrong

Again, I know...poor thing.

Posted by liam on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 12:25pm


What?

Posted by Metalsmith on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 12:42pm


Just 'cos a group gets a load of f*cking comments, it makes no difference to how deserving they are.

Which, in this case, is not at all.

Not even slightly.

And don't bother with the "lots of hits, lots of sales" arguments, because I do not go for it.

Posted by liam on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 12:47pm


because I do not go for it.


That settles this issue for me.


Posted by Eric on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 13:24pm


Me too. A convincing orator is this liam. By the way, this is comment #484. Pretty impressive, huh?

Posted by Metalsmith on Wednesday, 01.16.08 @ 13:42pm


"By the way, this is comment #484. Pretty impressive, huh?"

That count does not filter out the illiterate comments. Nor does it count the number of comments against Bon Jovi's induction.

Posted by liam on Thursday, 01.17.08 @ 12:45pm


please, when you going to for brazil?

Posted by Guilherme on Sunday, 01.20.08 @ 08:49am


bon jovi over the years has been able to compete and still be the best against a society today that is mainly made up of r&b and rap, techno, all that crap. Over the years, songs like It's my Life, Livin on a Prayer, Have a Nice day, You give love a bad name, Wanted Dead or Alive, Bad Medicine, Bed of Roses, makes them truly one of the greats and very deserving of the 2008 inductee

Posted by ethan on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 01:09am


William - I hope you have a good urologist.

The regulars on this site are underestimating Bon Jovi.

Bon Jovi has received every noteworthy accolade by the music industry and then some. I can post a list if requested.

Bon Jovi has better odds of getting nominated and inducted to the RRHOF then the majority of the artists that people constantly complain are not on the RRHOF radar.

Posted by David on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 09:34am


"The regulars on this site are underestimating Bon Jovi."

The fact that they estimate Bon Jovi at all shows that they are overestimating them.

"Bon Jovi has received every noteworthy accolade by the music industry and then some. I can post a list if requested."

Yeah, right. I don't even think Pitchfork gave them a review. Most likely all the accolades Bon Jovi recieved are through (fan) voting.

Posted by Liam on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 12:27pm


"William - I hope you have a good urologist."-David

They say a joke doesn't work if you have to explain it.

"
Bon Jovi has better odds of getting nominated and inducted to the RRHOF then the majority of the artists that people constantly complain are not on the RRHOF radar."-David

That says more about the crappy standards of the hall than Bon Jovi's minimal scrap of talent.

I will repeat, there is NOTHING original about this band. Anything they did, someone had already done earlier and better.

Posted by William on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 14:15pm


Aww man, I'm just waiting 'til another "I dare you to find X better bands from the 80s" comment comes along.

William, you forgot to mention that there is nothing "good" about his band.

Nothing. At. All.

Posted by Liam on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 15:05pm


David never said Bon Jovi SHOULD be inducted, just that they probably will be. And he's right.

They're in the Billy Joel category of Hall of Famer -- relatively inoffensive, massively popular, and a nice long career.

Not my cup of tea really either, but you can't really argue that they don't have a shot to get in (as the Hall is currently constituted).

Posted by mel on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 15:30pm


William - I said the urologist comment because you said that you will piss blood if Bon Jovi get nominated or inducted.
If your personal criteria is influence then shouldn't Classical artists be inducted? Since they really started it all.

Liam - Pitchfork is irrelevant.
Like it or not - Rolling Stone is relevant. Jann Wenner is the chairman of the RRHOF's Board of Directors.
Jon Bon Jovi has been the cover of Rolling Stone twice (including Issue #500).

Mel is right. I didn't give my personal opinion. I am just stating facts.

I have many more facts why Bon Jovi is likely to get nominated and inducted by the end of this year.

By the way - I am not the David who posted in the beginning of this thread.
I am the David who usually posts in the comments section in the news area and who posted the Final Ballot, etc first.

Posted by David on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 16:43pm


To me they were just another hair band...theres a lot of other bands I'd rather listen to from that era. The word "influential" seems to be the most misunderstood word on record when it comes to musicianship. They kind of sounded like a bunch of other bands. Can't say they influenced much of anything.

Posted by Terry on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 17:42pm


Objectivity seems to be lost in all this, which is why fans will never get a vote in the HOF. Being a guitarist for a long time, I think Eric Johnson is the best player I've ever seen, followed closely by Al DiMeola. Neither one of them are my favorite, though.

When it comes to bands, deserving to be in the hall of fame has to be more than just your "favorite". Seriously, what have they contributed? Are people going to be talking about them 50 years from now?













Posted by Terry on Monday, 02.4.08 @ 18:00pm


"If your personal criteria is influence then shouldn't Classical artists be inducted? Since they really started it all."-David

How so? The Classical period was far from the earliest music, and rock and roll borrows very, very little from its conventions. Even if you're referring to the entirety of the Western music canon (most people who say "Classical" aren't specifically referring to the Classical period), that's still not right.

Anyway, it's a non sequitur. It has nothing to do with Bon Jovi not even remotely deserving induction.

Posted by William on Tuesday, 02.5.08 @ 06:29am


"Liam - Pitchfork is irrelevant.
Like it or not - Rolling Stone is relevant. Jann Wenner is the chairman of the RRHOF's Board of Directors."

Fine, if you want to look at it that way, and resign yourself to the sh*t that will eventually get in (Bon Jovi) instead of looking at things objectively, then fine.

And besides, Rolling Stone is only just above the depths of Kerrang!, the only differnece being that Rolling Stone isn't total "RAAAAWK" sh*t.





P.S. Influence is not our "personal" criteria. It is what the Hall should be looking at, and something Bon Jovi have literally none of.

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 02.5.08 @ 09:45am


This comment is just here so we can get closer to having five hundred.

Posted by Metalsmith on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 13:28pm


^^Shows how useful the average Jovi fan is.

Posted by Liam on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 13:41pm


YES! Comment #500! Thanks, Liam.

Posted by Metalsmith on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 14:23pm


Oh, I'll do anything for a lameass, no-talent, hairmetal-tripe band!

Especially if it's for one of the worst groups of the 80s!

Posted by Liam on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 14:28pm


Ok,let's go then!
Almost everyone is complaining about how bad Bon Jovi is but do you feel really good writing things that can HURT other people? This band saved my life and I don't put statistics how many albums They've sold,how many people heard Them live or how many awards They received.
If you criticise this band just because you don't like Them-fine! but that doesn't give you right to say they are mediocre band that they shoud be ignored by music business, people who are really interested in music and potential fans.If they are so unattractive, mean nothing in the world so why to the hell they reach the top???just because of Jon's pretty face?I am interested in music since I was a child and I can say that nobody has so characteristic voice like Jon Bon Jovi(I'm not included Freddie Mercury).If they didn't discover something new, different why the "Slippery When Wet" became cult album and written in the Guiness Record Book as the best selling hard rock album of the 80's?Did you listen all Bon Jovi records? Bon Jovi,7800 degrees Fahrenheit,Slippery When Wet,New Jersey, Keep The Faith,These Days- the most ambitious album,Crossroad(Greatest hits), Crush, Bounce,These Left Feels Right,Have A Nice Day and the last one Lost Highway? If yes then do whatever you want, if not then stop insulting one of the greatest bands in the world

Posted by BJ fan on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 15:09pm


Bon Jovi sounded like everybody else in that era...quit trying to make them into the second coming of Led Zeppelin!! If you're a fan, thats cool, but do you really believe they shook the industry enough to be considered for the HOF? Maybe they can be in the same wing with Jann Wenner...I think its called "Legends In Their Own Minds".

Posted by Terry on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 15:18pm


Don't bring Led Zeppelin into this, that's nothing but a cry for attention.

Posted by Metalsmith on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 15:45pm


"then stop insulting one of the greatest bands in the world"

I don't remember insulting The Cure, Pixies, Soundgarden, The Smiths, Supergrass, Led Zeppelin, Roxy Music, Echo & the Bunnymen, My Bloody Valentine, Cocteau Twins, Flaming Lips, King Crimson, The Stooges, The Buzzcocks, Slowdive, Lush, New Order, Joy Division, XTC, The Cars, Arcade Fire or any of the numerous "great" groups.

I do, however, remember slamming a certain crap-hair metal band

Posted by Liam on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 15:48pm


You don't like Led Zeppelin, admit it.

Posted by punk sucks on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 15:57pm


No, I can like Zep and The Buzzcocks at the same time.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by Punk doesn't always suck, hairmetal always sucks on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 16:02pm


Yes, they should be inducted- not as "legend in their owm minds"What's wrong with you guys?Are you music experts who can put a band which you like in and a band you don't like ban them to be honored?Relax!

Posted by BJ fan on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 16:04pm


Blojob fan, are you even slightly aware of how MINUTE Bon Jovi's influence on music is?

Or how dire their records are?





As for innovation, I won't even go there....because there's nothing there.

Posted by Liam on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 16:07pm


Nothing wrong with me...I don't like, dislike, or think much of them. Being a player, I'm around a lot of people who don't think much of them either. Like I said...there are a lot of bands and individuals in the HOF that I'm not crazy about, but they made significant contributions...you can feel their presence, like them or not. Like I said, if you're a fan, thats cool...but thinking "they rock" isn't criteria for the HOF...sorry!

Posted by Terry on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 16:23pm


Are you aware of how INCONSEQUENTIAL the work of the Pixies, Echo & the Bunnymen, Joy Division, Arcade Fire, Roxy Music, Cocteau Twins and Supergrass is?

Posted by punk always sucks I have proof on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 16:24pm


On the contrary, whether they rock is exactly what we should be going off of here.

Posted by Metalsmith on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 16:27pm


Trust me, attention I DON'T need. Besides, I'm not the one that thinks this band should be in the HOF...they sold a lot of records, and what else? Are there a lot of little BJ's running around? Who have they influenced? My gosh, The Bay City Rollers sold a lot of records too! They at least tried to dress different (UGH!!!)

Posted by Terry on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 16:32pm


OK, Mr Smith, do you want me to walk you through the importnace of the groups you called "incosequential"? Sure, I don't mind, as long as you admit you're a moron.

Pixies: Second-most important U.S. alternative group below R.E.M..

Echo & The Bunnymen: Opened the gates to Neo-Psychedelia. Without them, there'd be a difference in anyone post-1980 to dapple in psych., most notably The Flaming Lips (who covered Echo btw)

Joy Division: Before R.E.M. and after Bowie, one of the first and most influential Alternative groups, and that's considering the fact that they only recorded two albums.

Arcade Fire: One of the best groups today.

Roxy Music: Glam Pioneers (no, not shitty 80s glam metal). That's not even mentioning Eno's solo stuff.

Cocteau Twins: Opened the gates to Shoe-Gaze. Highly important.

Supergrass: Outlived almost all their Britpop contemporaries. Survived the Fall of Britpop. "Alright" is one of THE most brilliant pop tunes you will EVER come across.

There, you happy now?

Posted by Punk > Glam Metal on Sunday, 02.10.08 @ 16:44pm


It is my last post here so don't ask me if Bon Jovi is influential or not.In your eyes they don't deserve any honor and I slightly disagree with that. I won't argue with people who thinks that they know so much about music and decide in their own criteria that one band should be in HOF and the other not. If you don't pay much attention to this band then stop talking about this band.This is all what I have to say.Goodbye!and yes I am a devoted fan who will with Their music,defend this band to the end

Posted by BJ fan on Monday, 02.11.08 @ 03:09am


Well, gee...you didn't have a good argument for your "favorite band" being in the HOF anyway so all I can say is...BYE!!!

Posted by Terry on Monday, 02.11.08 @ 06:22am


course they will be on the hall of fame they're the best band ever whit the best guitar player sambora(also wonderful voice)the best rock singer bon jovi best batery player tico tores and best pianist david bryan and don't forget alec that is not longer in the band

Posted by SAMBORA on Tuesday, 02.12.08 @ 17:26pm


Spoken like a TRUE Bon Jovi fan....

Posted by Terry on Tuesday, 02.12.08 @ 18:51pm


Is there another one you can vote on besides yes or no...like "OH HELL NO!!!!!"?

Posted by Terry on Sunday, 02.17.08 @ 09:44am


Definitivamente Bon Jovi debe estar en el Rock and Roll Hall of Fame de USA del 2009.

Byee

http://b0nj0vi.blogspot.com/



Posted by Valebj on Sunday, 02.24.08 @ 13:37pm


Bon jovi is the best band of all time!
Have years of experience and are kept until this day exciting to fans and helping people.
They are the maximum and deserve a place in the hall

Posted by duky on Monday, 02.25.08 @ 13:03pm


Bon jovi is the best band of all time! Definitivamente Bon Jovi debe estar en el Rock and Roll Hall of Fame de USA del 2009 son lo mejor y se reinventaron son como el vino mejoran con el tiempo

Posted by vinnjovi on Monday, 02.25.08 @ 19:16pm


"Bon jovi is the best band of all time!"-vinnjovi

Oh, brother! Here we go with that "fan is short for fanatic" thing again! No objectivity or explaination on why they are the "above mentioned". There are artists that I have really liked that for one reason or another will never bear mention into the HOF...at least I admit it!

Posted by Terry on Monday, 02.25.08 @ 19:26pm


BON JOVI EN EL ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME DE USAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by GabyBj on Tuesday, 02.26.08 @ 17:18pm


Whats noteworthy about this debate is who they will have beaten to eventually be inducted. They simple were the biggest hair band outside of Motley Crue and Def Leppard. But other more influential metal bands will be overlooked when they receive their invitation to join this elite club already enshrined. It's really embarrasing to think, Kiss, Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden will have to play second fiddle to Bon Jovi.

Posted by JasonP on Thursday, 02.28.08 @ 08:19am


They simple were the biggest hair band outside of Motley Crue and Def Leppard.

Def Leppard was not a Hair Band - they were a band with hair. The Hair Band titled genre was originally created to label the LA scene. This scene was headed by The Crue and Ratt.

Yes, I know everyone wants to blame them for the pop influence in Hard Rock. Damn that Def Leppard, if it wasn't for them, the 80's would have been great.

Bon Jovi may get in. But as it has been explained to me a hundred times before - Def Leppard has no right to be even mentioned in the discussion. But I am still going to play all their albums prior to Steve Clark's death. There was some great music.

Don't really care about Bon Jovi!

Alice should be in!

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 02.28.08 @ 09:25am


Dameon, you really don't think Def Leppard embraced the hair metal thing with Hysteria? They sure didn't shy away from that label when it was selling them millions of albums. Pour Some Sugar on Me is every bit as vapid as Poison's Unskinny Bop.

Posted by mel on Thursday, 02.28.08 @ 10:11am


Not at all. And if I am not mistaken, we didn't really start hearing the term "Hair Bands" until 1989. Bands like Poison and the Crue were being labeled as "Glam Rock".

You cannot breakdown three chord Rock and Roll into something new everytime. Personally, "Pour Some Sugar On Me" is probably my least favorite song on that album. If you notice, "PSSOM" was the 3rd or 4th single released from the album. If they thought to embrace that scene as you suggest, then why not have that as their first single? I believe Woman and Animal were the first 2 singles released. Listen to Rocket - nothing about that song is similiar to what the LA bands were doing - I have had discussions on this site about D.L. and I know they are not everyone's cup of tea. I will admit to D.L. being the precursor to the Hair Band Scene, but not part of it. As far as I am concerned, up until the death of Steve Clark, Def Leppard was an excellent band who put out well recorded music. They knew the importance of harmonies, both vocal and musical as well as song structure. And you know what, chicks dug their music as well, and as a guy who loves chicks, I was very happy for that.

I think the band lost its soul when Clark died.

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 02.28.08 @ 11:18am


HELLO TO ALL AND ALL HELLO,IF JOHN BON JOVI GETS INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME I DAN BARCAN WILL DRESS LIKE BELLA ABZUG IN FULL DRAG AT HIS CEREMONY AND CLAP IN THE FRONT ROW...(SOMETHING NEVER HAVE DONE OR WILL DO AGAIN)JOHN YOU MAY BE A GIFTED GENTILE(GIFTED AS IN SPECIAL AS IN MUSICALLY AND ARTISTICALLY RETARTED(ON OFFENSE TO RETARTED PEOPLE)BUT ITS THE WORLD WE ALL LIVE IN,ITS A GENTILE INVASION IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME AND I STILL HAVE TO SIT IN A CORNER LIKE LITTLE JACK CORNER..STAY TUNED FOR MY REAL FEELINGS ABOUT THE POSSIBLY FUTURE JOHN BON JOVI FIASCO A-SAP...P.S. JOHN WAS YOUR MOM REALLY A PLAYBOY MODEL BACK IN THE DAY??--DUDE YOUR AWESOME IF YOUR PART SCANDANAVIAN??OR SOMETHING PART NORMAL...CHEERS ALL..PEACE..DB...

Posted by DAN BARCAN on Sunday, 03.2.08 @ 09:38am


Bon Jovi- influential? To whom? I guess if this is a popularity contest they make it but as far as being placed along side Elvis, Chuck Berry, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Eagles....no way!

Posted by mario on Tuesday, 03.11.08 @ 10:18am


They will get in on popularity and they deserve to be. Come on, everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. These guys wrote hit songs, performed them well and helped form stadium rock as it should be.
They are surely not the most interesting musicians out there, I agree, but they certainly do have the skill to be good and to keep their popularity afloat.
RNRHF is great because it's so diverse. And all music snobs and elitist morons should really shut their collective mouth. I don't even like Bon Jovi, I like bands that you can call fairly elitist. But those guys 100% deserve it if you are objective.

Posted by FNT on Saturday, 03.15.08 @ 00:46am


"But those guys 100% deserve it if you are objective"

Yeah, so long as we ignore their minimal influence and non-existent innovation, they 100% deserve in.

However, if we do take them into account, Bon Jovi don't deserve it at all.

Posted by Liam on Saturday, 03.15.08 @ 08:47am


"They are surely not the most interesting musicians out there, I agree, but they certainly do have the skill to be good and to keep their popularity afloat."

Well, gee...I wasn't aware that the HoF was about just being "good". Being "objective" would suggest they don't stand a chance!! The HoF should be about being one of the absolute BEST, most influentail and/or innovative bands/artists in history...period!! My feeling is the HoF is already saturated with mediocrity, and a lot of you people out there would just love to fill it with more.

Bon Jovi sold a lot of records...big deal! I mentioned ABBA before and they sold probably 3 TIMES as many records, and the way the "draw a name out of a hat" criteria stands, they should be in, too!! Plus the fact that their core audience is probably the same as it was in the 80's...I really don't hear of them making new fans. A lot of the original rockers continue to garner fans of all age groups to this day. Why?? Because of their influence!!

My feeling is and always has been that there should only be about 30-40 inductees...and some of them aren't even in yet. The HoF isn't really a bad idea, but it's such a mess now that I'd tear it down and start from scratch. In the meantime, I wish people would really look into rock history, find out over the years who really is deserving of that type of honor. Just because they're your "favorite" means very little!! The people who suggest putting "average" or "good" or worse yet, "mediocrity " in should be the ones to keep their collective mouths shut!!!

Posted by Terry on Saturday, 03.15.08 @ 08:59am


they deserve to get in - they are still selling out huge arenas- what other 80's hair band can say that - they stood the test of time ... vote em in

Posted by brandi on Wednesday, 03.19.08 @ 18:36pm


Of course there are 80s bands that are selling out huge arenas but bon jovi is not an example.
You must agree that the band that passed the time test better than anyone else is the SCORPIONS 750000 in poland.

Posted by tassos on Thursday, 03.27.08 @ 09:50am


You'll never hear me dispute that SCORPIONS are the greatest band in the world, but you're wrong. Bon Jovi are still out there and they're just as popular as ever.

Posted by Metalsmith on Tuesday, 04.1.08 @ 14:44pm


So according to some posters (Liam and William) the HOF is all about influence and innovation. Nothing about billboard hits, albums sold, and massive sold out concerts. So this is an opinion of theirs not the HOF. Am I a juge BJ fan. Not really but I do believe they should get very stong consideration and will evenutally get in. They have a lot of hits that made a lot of people happy. You two smoos do not like the "hair" metal genre and your opinions are not really wanted anymore on any of those bands. But those early grugne f0cing bands are so cool aren't they!!!

Posted by moterfly on Sunday, 04.6.08 @ 06:56am


"So according to some posters (Liam and William) the HOF is all about influence and innovation. Nothing about billboard hits, albums sold, and massive sold out concerts. So this is an opinion of theirs not the HOF."-moterfly

No it isn't. Please read the words at the top of EVERY artist page:

"Criteria include the influence and significance of the artist's contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll."

Even if it tragically fails at meeting its own standards, the point is that the Hall is intended to promote those artists who made a definitive stamp on rock history, not people's pocketbooks. There is a (small) correlation between sales and influence, but it's not causal either way. You're just pissy that someone would suggest that a band you like isn't important. And again, there's nothing wrong with liking historically unimportant bands. Cowboy up and deal with it.

"your opinions are not really wanted"-moterfly

But yours are, you think. Or else you wouldn't give them, right?

"But those early grugne f0cing bands are so cool aren't they!!!"-moterfly

What a broken record. You're more obsessed with grunge than anyone else here. Keep trying, though. You'll make a decent point eventually, maybe.

Posted by William on Sunday, 04.6.08 @ 07:16am


heah dog dogs

Posted by dog on Wednesday, 04.9.08 @ 08:17am


Oh, hell yeah.

One of the great bands that have stood the test of time. I think they oughta be in.

Posted by K-Money on Sunday, 04.13.08 @ 09:35am


20 year career (there abouts) does not equal "stadning the test of time."

And where's the greatness?

Posted by Liam on Sunday, 04.13.08 @ 11:09am


Reasons why Shawn does not have to worry about the Hall letting in Bon Jovi, at least in my opinion.

Yes, they have sold more albums than most, but it is not like they were on the ground floor of 80's pop metal scene. They are at best, a third tier band of that genre. Since everyone blames Def Leppard for the 80's scene, Bon Jovi cannot be considered an influential band within this genre. They certainly were never considered the best (musically) of the genre, just one of the cheesiest. They did not perpetuate this genre because there were many bands who sold very well between 85 - 91. In fact, I dare say that Bon Jovi was one of the bands who started turning the music of this genre into pablum. There music did bring hot chicks into the clubs, so that is one plus for them. About the only thing I liked about this band is that they discovered a very good blues-based Hard Rock band (Cinderella). Unfortunately, Cinderella spent way too much time in the hair spray aisle of Wal-Mart and forgot that they actually had some musical chops. My one concern is that Bon Jovi might be cited as an early influence to the the Back Street Boys and N'Sync. Because when you think about it, Bon Jovi was a boy band who played their instruments. Now I am not saying Bon Jovi doesn't have their place in the history of RnR, it's just that I don't believe they will seem as important 25 years from now as many think they will.

Wanted : DEAD OR ALIVE - Do you really want me to answer that? I am not a hater - I'm just expressing my humble opinion. And believe me, it hurts me to have to say this about a fellow Italian-American.

Anyone who wears fringes on their M/C Jacket needs to go away. Sorry Jon.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 04.29.08 @ 07:16am


I can tell Dameon is not a lawyer.

You left out that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is an accolade in the music industry.

Bon Jovi have accomplished every major accolade in the music industry leading up to RRHOF (not including sales).

I have evidence that Bon Jovi is linked to the politics of this too, I can prove it but I am not posting it NOW because Roger Friedman probably read this site.

We will not know the answer until late September.

To be continued.

Posted by David on Tuesday, 04.29.08 @ 08:52am


You are correct David, I am not a lawyer. You can tell that by the logic and reason I used in my comment.

You are correct, the HoF is an accolade. One does not accomplish an accolade, one earns it. And we all know that accolades are sometimes given when not deserved. But you are correct, Bon Jovi has received numerous awards and I am not here to diminish that.

As for Politics and the Hall; for that I cannot answer. If the politics of tha Hall do lead to their induction in the next year, then so be it. I certainly won't lose any sleep over it. Shawn and Liam may become somewhat ill. Again, I am not saying that Bon Jovi is some horrible thing; I just don't think their contribution to their genre of RnR is any greater than a lot of other bands from that era. And their are still way too many bands from earlier years that have yet to be inducted.(Deep Purple, King Crimson, ELP, Alice Cooper, Cheap Trick - you get my drift) I will leave the post-punk era for Liam to explain.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 04.29.08 @ 09:27am


I love you now Dameon. Really I do.

Posted by shawn on Tuesday, 04.29.08 @ 09:53am


Believe it or not Shawn - my opinions on the Hall and the subject in general are pretty much lined up with yours. Yes, I freely admit that I enjoyed a number of the 80's bands. They were fun and sleazy and that suited me just fine. I don't see any of the bands from that era ever being inducted nor would I argue for it. Except maybe, Queensryche and you know who. In fact, the only thing we really disagree on is that band who will remain nameless for now. I don't want to upset you.

FYI - although Metallica, Megadeath, Slayer and Anthrax all come from the 80's, I am not placing them into the same genre as Bon Jovi.

Last item - I forgot to mention the Stooges and the NY Dolls. Love those bands!

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 04.29.08 @ 10:05am


Bon Jovi rules.

Musically: Greatness
Lyrically: Greatness

Bon Jovi = Greatness

'Nuff said.

Posted by K-Money on Tuesday, 04.29.08 @ 10:34am


'Nuff said - K-Money

If you like that music, I suggest you give a try to Enuff z'nuff. They were a lot more fun.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 04.29.08 @ 19:09pm


jeeeeeeeeeesus....bon jovi ..how bout the stooges or motorhead you know,somebody who wrote good music

Posted by jacko on Wednesday, 04.30.08 @ 11:06am


jeeeeeeeeeesus....bon jovi ..how bout the stooges or motorhead you know,somebody who wrote good music

Posted by jacko on Wednesday, 04.30.08 @ 11:07am


jeeeeeeeeeesus....bon jovi ..how bout the stooges or motorhead you know,somebody who wrote good music

Posted by jacko on Wednesday, 04.30.08 @ 11:08am


bonjovi was hit is a hit and always be a hit

Posted by dd on Tuesday, 05.6.08 @ 18:25pm


Just put an 's' on the beginning of "hit," dd, and you'll have my total support.

Posted by Liam on Wednesday, 05.7.08 @ 11:15am


Hey Liam -

You are literally LIVIN' ON A PRAYER with 98% of the artists you want inducted.

Posted by Reality Check on Wednesday, 05.7.08 @ 17:50pm


"Just because they're your "favorite" means very little!! The people who suggest putting "average" or "good" or worse yet, "mediocrity " in should be the ones to keep their collective mouths shut!!"

Now how is average, good or mediocre any kind of objective criteria? They are also not my favorite, which I stated clearly. I suggest you learn how to read.

They helped form stadium rock, yay or nay? Yay.

Do they have young people as their fans? Yay or nay? Yay.

They are not my favorite. I think their art sucks. SUCKS, got it? They still are one of the most visible bands out there though. Did the whole hair thing start because of them? No. Did they give it an awesome push? Yes.
These are their merits. Good or mediocre - that's all opinions that are really not what the HoF is about.

Take me. I will never even download their record in my life, but I somehow know about this band. I know that they were really big, that they came back about 6 (was it 5?) years ago with that It's My Life song. I KNOW them. Dream Theater did a cover of them some time ago live, I've heard some nu-metal cover of You Give Love a Bad Name.
I'm not a fan so I'm sure there are more. Come on, be logical. They did those covers so they should've liked those songs somewhere along the way. If you throw that together with their obvious popularity, you get a band that deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

Posted by FNT on Saturday, 05.10.08 @ 20:47pm


They will be in anyway, so this matter is pretty pointless. Now I will head down to The Cure page and shout HOW COME THEY NOT IN!?!?!?

Posted by FNT on Saturday, 05.10.08 @ 20:59pm


"They helped form stadium rock, yay or nay?"-FNT

Nay, actually.

Posted by William on Saturday, 05.10.08 @ 22:41pm


soy fan de jon bon jovi a muerte lo amo es mi vida

Posted by marielagriccelda on Tuesday, 05.13.08 @ 17:23pm


por favor jon veni a la argentina por lo que mas quiera por favorrrrrrrrrrrrr

Posted by marielagriccelda on Tuesday, 05.13.08 @ 17:27pm


Watch how complimentary Steven Van Zandt is of Bon Jovi in their UK MUSIC HALL OF FAME montage.

Expect them on the ballot.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lXFmgcwMm-c

Posted by David on Monday, 05.19.08 @ 14:28pm


Personally, I could not justify Bon Jovi being inducted before Journey (whom Jon Bon Jovi himself cites as an influence). But since there seems to be two cynical questions as to whether an act is inducted, they have too much of a chance.

Those two questions:

1.) Would they reunite (if necessary) or come to (and play at) an induction?

2) Would anyone pay big bucks to see them at said induction?

Think about it. Obviously, the Beatles (if they weren't already inducted) or Tupac Shakur would not be able to make it if they were inducted. Similarly, ABBA was reportedly offered one billion (yes, with a B) for a 100-city tour; as they declined, it seems unlikely that they would reunite for induction. On the other hand, Cheap Trick would probably be all too happy to perform for well-deserved induction, but who would pay to see them? They've been playing the state fair free concert circuit for the last two decades.

Bon Jovi, on the other hand, is still a headliner, and like Madonna last year, would bring a paying crowd to see them. Their chances are better than average of getting in.

Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 07.1.08 @ 20:36pm


bon jovi is an amazing band. i remember seeing them back in 1985!! they rocked then and they still rock now!!!

Posted by diana on Friday, 07.18.08 @ 16:06pm


No way Bon Jovi should be in before, Kiss, Judas Priest, Journey, REO Speedwagon, Deep Purple, Yes, Heart, Cheap Trick, Pat Benatar, Joan Jett, Rush, Iron Maiden or Judas Priest.......NO F****** WAY!

Posted by Darry on Wednesday, 07.30.08 @ 13:22pm


Bon Jovi is the best band of hard rock I was grow up listening his songs.This guys across generations of fans and received the respect of them. The best choice the best music Bon Jovi

Posted by Fernando Neves Lima on Wednesday, 07.30.08 @ 15:23pm


Put it this way. Bon Jovi deserve it much more than Madonna and didn't she get inducted? :P

Some Bon Jovi fans do overrate them but by the same token, non-fans and critics tend to underrate them. Sure they've never been the hardest rocking band around but they weren't trying to be. 25 years later you can find 3 generations of fans at their concerts and buying their albums... they don't try to relive past glories like some of their 80s counterparts because they don't have to.

Posted by lee on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 02:03am


they've been on the spotlight since the 80s.They started the unplugged phenomenon.they influenced many rock bands.they played all over the world (only the moon is still missing).they've been able to reinvent themselves,to take a twist and a turn.they are outstanding songwriters and excellent interpreters.they made 100,000,000 people dream.what more do you want from a rock band? Valentina298

Posted by valentina on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 03:12am


They started the unplugged phenomenon.they influenced many rock bands. (Valentina)

Please make sure you get your facts correct. The unplugged mania is credited to Tesla. And I am not quite sure why playing accoustically earns anyone any special praise. I am not quite sure how they reinvented themselves. They have actually moved towards Pop music in an even more dramatic way. I will give them their due - what they did, they did well. But if the 80's Hard Rock scene is going to be recognized which I don't think it will, Def Leppard and Motley Crue would have to come first. And I don't see that happening.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 03:27am


Okay so some don't like Bon Jovi - the Critics never have - but it hasn't stopped then selling out world tour concerts, including the just finished tour which is one of the highest grossing concerts of the year!

For me their music has influenced me greatly and their philosophy has helped me change my life for the better, and for that I owe them a very big thank you.

For me the bands induction in to the Hall of Fame is a must.

Posted by Maria on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 03:56am




I will have to admit I really liked Bon Jovi's music up to the album crush. Have a nice day was so so and this last album was a freaking countryfied one. I am with Dameon if the HOF EVER recognized the 80's the Crue and Def Leppard must go first. IMO Bon Jovi should also go. I personally have all their albums but the most recent one. Good music and it makes me happy. (not quite like Danger Danger but we'll save that for another day!)

Posted by dano on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 04:48am


Perfect way for Bon Jovi to get into Hall:

I read that in the 70's Wenner organized a Rolling Stone softball team to play the Eagles in a charity game. I am aware that the Eagles had some issues w/ RS at the time.

Now, 30 yrs. down the line, it's time for Wenner to unleash his inner Vince Lombardi on us all and organize a football team to challenge this yrs. arena football champions, the Philadelphia Soul! Bon Jovi's playing a free concert to celebrate the team's win, so why not have them play another game for Hall bragging rights? If the Soul win, Jon still plays afterwards, but Wenner has to introduce him as part of the next Hall class. If Wenner's team wins, he gets Bon Jovi's arena bowl trophy.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 05:41am


For me their music has influenced me greatly and their philosophy has helped me change my life for the better, and for that I owe them a very big thank you. (Maria)

I always like to read that a band helped their fans out, either with messages in music or deeds. Music is inspirational to the fans. Although I am curious as to what you think Bon Jovi's philosophy is?

Here are the facts about Bon Jovi. They sold more records that any of the HardRock/Power Pop bands of the 80's and they are still going strong. Def Leppard is always blamed for the Hair Band Scene, but I think the credit goes to B.J. Let's face it, only Poison could challenge them when it came to the battle of the hair and aquanet. And I would bet top dollar that they did cause a lot of Jersey Boys boys to pick up the guitar for the first time.

Personally, I cannot see Bon Jovi ever being inducted, which means they probably will. But I am not a hater or critic, I just thought their music was pablum to the ears. I do admit that I hated B.J.'s fringed biker jacket. That was pretty sissy!

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 05:48am


I started to write this long comment and then realized that all that needs to be pointed out is the fact they these guys still create albums that PEOPLE WALK THROUGH LIFE WITH. From they very beginning, they have touched people in so many different ways and their music lives on - from the days of Runaway to the most recent Make a Memory. They should DEFINITELY be voted in!

Posted by Jackie on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 06:11am


This must be a slow morning for me.

No one is saying that they did not write music for their fans. They are loved; no one can question that. But what I am asking is how does that merit them induction into a Hall of Fame which states specifically that a band must show innovation, influence and perpetuation of the artform? Just because we may love a band doesn't mean that they deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. I love Mott The Hoople and actually think that they do meet some of the stated criteria, but I know they are never going to be voted in.

Love from the fans is not a criteria. Perhaps it should be, I don't know. I mean when you look at the word "Fame", it implies a certain amount of fan adoration. You can't be famous unless people love what you do.

Personally, I think it is a bunch of bullsh*t to begin with and is just a way to take more money out of the consumers pocket.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 06:24am


Oh God, if bon jovi, doesnt make it in their first eligible year, then there is no doubt in my mind, that the world is going downhill and fast. This is by far the most amazing band i have ever seen live! i have never seen five,forty-somethings so damn active and hyped up for an entire two and a half hours. And what other band cares that much about their fans that they make a box set composed of over fourty never before heard songs before? in celebration of ONE HUNDRED MILLION albums sold!!!! oh man its no question in my head these boys deserve this more than anything!!!

Posted by Jessie on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 08:13am


The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will not be complete or true without the New Jersey Rockers, Bon Jovi, sitting in the rightful place in history, They made it, they earned it and rightfully deserve it. They listening base demand it and will get it!

Posted by RockerFever on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 08:15am


Their sold out concerts and sale of CD's speaks for itself. ...25 years of success in this biz? Come one, that's rare. There should be no question of them getting into the fame. IT SHOULD JUST BE A GIVEN..PERIOD!

Posted by Kim on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 12:02pm


"Their sold out concerts and sale of CD's speaks for itself."
It only says Bon Jovi has a large and loyal fanbase. It says nothing about historical importance. Ticket and record sales are not criteria for induction. And neither does longetivity.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 13:00pm


Ok, Dameon...let's talk criteria (which I still believe, if not in so many words, has something to do with longevity, success, fame, and fan base). But....
Innovation - I'm sure you can come back with someone who has used the voice box before Richie, but it definitively became a more popular/well-known tool after his use on Slippery When Wet. Let's face it, when you think of the voice box, you think Richie Sambora and Livin' on a Prayer.. Not to mention his use of the double neck guitar. Again, I'm sure he wasn't the first, but his use of it was innovative and remembered.
Next, influence..how about the fact that they were the first band to perform "unplugged" at the MTV music awards which sparked an entire series of Unplugged shows, featuring hundreds of bands following in their footsteps. Isn't that a most influential act?
Perpetuation. By definition, it means: per·pet·u·at·ed, per·pet·u·at·ing, per·pet·u·ates
1. To cause to continue indefinitely; make perpetual.
2. To prolong the existence of; cause to be remembered:
Songs of theirs being considered for the state song of NJ; everyone and their mother's knowing at least one Bon Jovi song (but probably more like a dozen); and the simple fact that when you think New Jersey, you think 2 things...Bruce and Bon Jovi. Their existence is perpetuated.
Can you honestly argue that?

Posted by Jackie on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 13:47pm


It is a good question. Yes, they've sold 120+ million albums, but I believe on 30+ in the US. The HoF seems to focus more on the US music scene.
Bon Jovi has stood the test of time, but in no way are they an influential band. They took a formula from other bands and repeated it. One of the big things I have to point out is that they not only sell out (not the good way), but they only became relevent again when they began receiving help writing their music. Look at the top hits...

All that being said, they will get in, but not on the first ballot.

Posted by evhwolf on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 13:54pm


Bon Jovi is a band that reaches out to at least 3 generations of fans. The lyrics can be related to by anyone who has ever loved, looked for better things to come their way or just want to let go and party... Anyone can relate and appreciate. And they spill out their blood and sweat for their fans at their concerts from Jon dancing with one lucky fan to all of the audience participation, it really keeps the show entertaining.

Debbie

Posted by Debbie on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 13:57pm


"Innovation - I'm sure you can come back with someone who has used the voice box before Richie, but it definitively became a more popular/well-known tool after his use on Slippery When Wet. Let's face it, when you think of the voice box, you think Richie Sambora and Livin' on a Prayer.."

Innovation means you're the first, not the one who popularizes it. If you popularize it, you might be called influential, but certainly not innovative. And to be honest, his use of the talk box was neither innovative or influential. It was already quite famous in the seventies. If you don't believe me, you at least have to believe Richie Sambora himself. Here's a quote I found on wikipedia, in which Sambora honours the two guitarists generally seen as the ones who popularized the voice box:

"When I was a teenager, Frampton Comes Alive was such a huge record. I liked that it was a live album and I loved to see bands live. Joe Walsh of The Eagles also used talk box amazingly. Those were the main guys."

Joe Walsh & Peter Frampton. They are the ones who popularized the voice box, not Richie Sambora.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 14:59pm


"let's talk criteria (which I still believe, if not in so many words, has something to do with longevity, success, fame, and fan base)."

Not at all.

"Innovation - I'm sure you can come back with someone who has used the voice box before Richie, but it definitively became a more popular/well-known tool after his use on Slippery When Wet."

Yeah, so basically he didn't innovate the use of the talk box. My dictionary doesn't define "innovative" or "innovate" with anything to do with increasing something's popularity.

"Let's face it, when you think of the voice box, you think Richie Sambora and Livin' on a Prayer.."

No, I don't, dumbass. I listen to good music.

"Not to mention his use of the double neck guitar. Again, I'm sure he wasn't the first, but his use of it was innovative and remembered."

Nice one for contradiciting yourself. If he wasn't the first (he wasn't anywhere near), he didn't innovate the use.

"Next, influence..how about the fact that they were the first band to perform "unplugged" at the MTV music awards which sparked an entire series of Unplugged shows, featuring hundreds of bands following in their footsteps."

Holy shit!! I never realised Bon Jovi were the first to perform an acoustic set! Oh wait, they weren't.

"Isn't that a most influential act?"

No, it's a popular one.

"Songs of theirs being considered for the state song of NJ; everyone and their mother's knowing at least one Bon Jovi song (but probably more like a dozen); and the simple fact that when you think New Jersey, you think 2 things...Bruce and Bon Jovi. Their existence is perpetuated.
Can you honestly argue that?"

I think I might scribble this quotation under the word "grasp" in my dictionary right now; it's very appropriate.

Posted by Liam on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 15:04pm


OK Jackie - here we go. I start by saying once again that I am not a hater. In fact, I actually like party RnR which was prevelent in the 80's.

1)I'm sure you can come back with someone who has used the voice box before Richie, but it definitively became a more popular/well-known tool after his use on Slippery When Wet.

Let's start with Joe Perry in Sweet Emotion and then move to Peter Frampton and his live album. His use of the voice box basically caused an upswing in sales in the late 70's. And really, using the voice box requires very little talent. I used one for three years.

2)..how about the fact that they were the first band to perform "unplugged" at the MTV music awards which sparked an entire series of Unplugged shows, featuring hundreds of bands following in their footsteps. Isn't that a most influential act?

No! In fact, the whole unplugged scene can be dated to the release of the CD and concert videos from Tesla's " Five Man Acoustical Jam". We can trace this back even farther to Queen and Led Zeppelin when they would do acoustical breaks during their concerts.
So no, they did nothing influential with that performance. And remember, that was just BJ and Sambora playing; it was not the whole band.

3)Perpetuation.

Now on this subject, there seems to be varying opinions on the subject. Runaway was released in 1984. By that time Def Leppard had already released 3 albums with Pyromania completely dominating the growing scene, Motley Crue had released two (I believe), Quiet Riot's album had already gone #1, Ratt's "Round and Round" was heard every 30 minutes and of course Van Halen's "1984" ruled the radio. So as you can see, it is highly unlikely that BJ can be credited with perpetuating the scene. Let's remember, Def Leppard was getting radio play before MTV aired and had already toured the States opening for AC/DC and Billy Squier. And of course, on the harder side, you have Judas Priest and Iron Maiden.

As for this decade, I have to be honest, "It's My Life" sounds like the Backstreet Boys and that is not good as far as I am concerned. As I stated, Bon Jovi is quite smart in seeing the state of music and staying on top of the trends. They are astute musicians and businessmen. As for longevity - if that is a criteria, then the Hall better open their doors wide, because there are many bands and artists that can claim that.

I agree that in the late 80's BJ was a dominant force in music, but only a year after SWW was released (1986), the scene already was starting to hear rumblings. The Hysteria Album (1987), not counting Pour Some Sugar On Me was a bit of a departure from the Power Chord dominant song and GnR's debut album, also 1987 showed a less slick, more nastier version of the scene. So again, even though they were a dominant band, I don't believe they ever ruled the roost. Of all the bands from the "Hair Metal" generation, Bon Jovi and Poison did corner the under 16 market better than anyone. And look at the drop off in sales from SWW to New Jersey. That says something as well. I do credit BJ for finding Cinderella; IMO, a far superior band musically and lyrically. Unfortunately they were swayed by the hairspray asile at Walmarts.

Personally, I actually think Bon Jovi will get more consideration than any other band from that scene, but I have a feeling this Hall Committee doesn't really care about that whole genre in general, at least right now.

Wow - this hs been a very slow day for me. Jackie and the rest of the BJ fans; I do enjoy these conversations and I am certainly not trying to change your mind about the band you so love. Enjoy them always. All I am trying to do is be somewhat objective regarding this Hall of Shame nonsense.




Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 15:48pm


It's pretty simple. Bon Jovi is the best band ever, all categories. Of course they get in.

Posted by Frida on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 17:46pm


Dameon, grand slam home run!

You have provided a concise summary of why this particular band (or any band that fits this general description) is not qualified to be elevated to "Hall Of Fame " status. Every fact you state is 100% true and can't possibly be refuted. You also are awarded bonus points for not being rude and calling fans names.

Posted by Arrow Man on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 18:08pm


I am actually thankful that I wasn't really hung up on one or more bands in particular (unless you want to count the Beatles when I was about 9 years old). I was more interested in the music...if it was good, it didn't matter who performed it. That being said, I didn't find myself drawn to Bon Jovi's music very much...nothing about it really jumped out at me.

People on here just seem to get crazy!! Someone made the ridiculous statement that Sambora was one of the top 5 guitarists ever, I believe!!! All I can say is "no way". They were in no way that I can think of influential or innovative, and as far as perpetuation goes, that whole "hair band" thing did kind of fade away, didn't it? I know there are groups still kicking around out there, but it certainly doesn't dominate the airwaves anymore. Perry soon we're going to start hearing about subliminal messages in their music

If you're a fan of theirs, more power to ya, but don't go overboard! They were an okay band in an era with a lot of okay bands but we're talking about the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, here.

From where I sit, I'd say "no chance".

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 18:26pm


About Bon Jovi, Arrow Man wrote:
Dameon, grand slam home run!

Let me second that Dameon...well done!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 18:30pm


The 80's Hair Band Scene: It was certainly not the most innovative genre, that cannot be argued.

But like you Gitarzan, my introduction to RnR dates back to the Beatles. I had the pleasure of being a teenager in those special years when you could go see Led Zep, Aerosmith, The Who, The Kinks, Bowie, Queen, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple, The Eagles, and so many other bands turn Madison Square Garden into a fantasy world and then go into the Bowery after the concert and sneak into places that had the NY Dolls bashing away and completely blowing my mind. I had the pleasure of seeing The Ramones and Blondie at CBGB's and realizing there was another scene happening out there. I relished the punk and new wave/post punk scene even before these genres were actually named. And when the 80's hit, I enjoyed the noise from Judas Priest, Motorhead and Iron Maiden. But I also dived into the party music of Van Halen and Def Leppard. And by the time Grunge hit, I was in a position to sit back and just enjoy what they were doing.

I cannot support Def Leppard's induction anymore because of their appearance on some horrible reality show. But I will say that prior to Steve Clarks death, D.L. kicked some serious ass. He hung that guitar way too low and it caused such a different noise that it was great even though it was not technically perfect. Like I mentioned somewhere else, if you have the equipment that will allow you to break a recording down, listen to the music of Hysteria. In particular, Gods of War and the track Hysteria. Great work! They were fun and so was the scene.

I know it may not mean much to music afficianados or feminists, but if beautiful women in tight leather mini-skirts is not RnR, then I don't know what is.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 19:17pm


This band has not only been together for 25 years, they still produce # 1 hits, they continue to have sell out tours, what does it take to be inducted in the hall of fame? They certainly deserve it.

Posted by dransom on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 19:27pm


bon jovi should def get in. and beside all u dumb asses out their that like
pantera
slipknot
maralond mansin

and all that other shit band metal it all sucks.. and bon jovi songs actually mean something

and i cant stand them being called a stupid hair band. they had 4 awesome songs in the 80's and in the 90's and to the present they have had over 4x as much

every one who oposes them getting in suck hahaha

Posted by Sambor#1 on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 19:48pm


Oh, gee!! We'll definitely look forward to Sambor#1's next syllable with great enthusiasm.

Posted by Gitarzan on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 20:41pm


Bon jovi fans(myself included) do yourselves a favor and stop trying to win these dumbasses over. sorry to be so blunt, but all the things these"bon jovi critics" are saying just goes to show how ignorant people are capable of being. who cares if you dont like one of the greatest(THE GREATEST) all american bands who no matter what have stayed true to who they are and where they came from and, have stayed loyal and true to us fans. It doesnt matter what yall think, bon jovi, these boys are a shoe in. bottom line

Posted by jessie on Tuesday, 08.5.08 @ 21:27pm


Cmawwwwwwwn Jovi !!!!!!!!!!

Lads yer the best,u rock the world !!!!!!

Gettem in there...SEXELENT !!! :D

Posted by Marie on Wednesday, 08.6.08 @ 04:07am


Bon Jovi will definitely deserve to be included. But this is just a list, and they influence goes beyond that. The group is one of the greatest in the history of Rock & Roll. What other group lasted that long and maintaining good quality?. Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, who else? and Bon Jovi has many more years of success to come. BON JOVI is one of the greatests, even when they play country music. Yes who cares, it's BON JOVI!

Posted by FER on Friday, 08.22.08 @ 22:11pm


Hmm... on the surface, you wouldn't think BJ could be inducted. Always been a very commercial band, never really went against the grain of what a commercial rock band does. Not exactly one of the biggest critical successes (kinda like the pop-rock Mariah Carey/Celine Dion). But, like someone said, the band can fill those seats on concert tours, and is friendly with Wenner- so, who knows. Bon Jovi, def Leppard, Journey, Foreigner- all very commercial bands that played it safe, for the most part.

Iit's just that if BJ gets in, should a band like Nickelback be considered? I'd hope not.

Posted by JR on Saturday, 08.30.08 @ 10:11am


CAnt Get away with lame rock anymore so lets try lame country give it up jon 2 me you dont deserve it if there was a poser or pop hall of fame i would vote yes hell i would even induct you in myself you will never be as bad as slayer

Posted by ryan guinn on Tuesday, 09.2.08 @ 19:43pm


Bon Jovi deserves to be in the hall of fame. They are one of the best all time bands ever. To date they are still selling out concerts so what does that tell you??

Posted by Jovi Lover on Thursday, 09.4.08 @ 12:59pm


You don't really want me to answer that, do you?

Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 09.4.08 @ 13:01pm


If you feel the need to, go right ahead.

Posted by Jovi Lover on Thursday, 09.4.08 @ 13:50pm


I am going to be somewhat lazy with my answer:

Runaway was released in 1984. By that time Def Leppard had already released 3 albums with Pyromania completely dominating the growing scene. Photograph laid the groundwork for everything that came after. Motley Crue had released two (I believe), Quiet Riot's album had already gone #1, Ratt's "Round and Round" was heard every 30 minutes and of course Van Halen's "1984" ruled the radio. Dokken had a couple of well received albums as well. So as you can see, it is highly unlikely that BJ can be credited with perpetuating the scene. Let's remember, Def Leppard was getting radio play before MTV aired and had already toured the States opening for AC/DC and Billy Squier. And of course, on the harder side, you have Judas Priest, Motorhead and Iron Maiden.

Yes, they have sold more albums than most, but it is not like they were on the ground floor of 80's pop metal scene. They are at best, a third tier band of that genre. Since everyone blames Def Leppard for the 80's scene, Bon Jovi cannot be considered an influential band within this genre. They certainly were never considered the best (musically) of the genre, just one of the cheesiest. They did not perpetuate this genre because there were many bands who sold very well between 85 - 91. In fact, I dare say that Bon Jovi was one of the bands who started turning the music of this genre into pablum.

Okay - that is my answer. Please do not come back at me with the fact that they still sell out their concerts. You win that point, but that is not a criteria for the HoF. Perhaps it should be, but for now it is not. Do not tell me that they have sold million of albums; so has ABBA and Mariah Carey, yet I don't see you screaming for their induction. KISS is not in either.

Personally, I think they will be inducted, but they shouldn't be. At least not before a hundred other bands. And if that decade/genre is to be included, then Def Leppard and Motley Crue must go in before them.

But let's finish off the 60's & 70's first:

Alice Cooper
Deep Purple
King Crimson
ELP
NY Dolls
Cheap Trick
The Stooges

and all the great and influential indie/punk/post-punk bands which came out 6-8 years before Bon Jovi.


Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 09.4.08 @ 16:52pm


Oi...

Bon Jovi é a melhor banda do mundo! ;0)

Ai gente eu amo eles ... e sou do Brasil!

ele torna meus dias mais lindos! ;0)

Posted by Nathália on Friday, 09.5.08 @ 12:07pm


Please. How bj can be inducted in the fame. If you see the bands that remain out of the fame those megalegends you wont have a doupt that bj cant get in.
some of those bands:
Scorpions
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Kiss
Def Leapard
Guns n Roses
UFO

Posted by lakis on Monday, 09.8.08 @ 02:24am


I don't think they should be inducted until they give me credit for my baseball anthem that I wrote. "I Love This Town" is an advertisement for TBS & MLB. This is a fact!!! This ad was passed off as art that they claim they wrote!!!
Have A Nice Day ;)

To read more goto:
www.myspace.com/chelseacitycouncil

Posted by Bart Steele on Monday, 09.8.08 @ 15:17pm


120 million albums sold and counting; and still going strong! Bon Jovi is not "One of the Best" bands, they are "THE BEST" band, hands down!

Jon, you are My Hero, My God and you deserve to be inducted. Congratulations for 25 years of success and I am looking forward to many, many more years. Love you, Baby!

Posted by Debbi on Monday, 09.15.08 @ 00:03am


Although some would say Bon Jovi is good, not great, I would have to disagree. Sure, they were not as influential or had as many hits as some bands, but they were just great and talented. I don't know if they will get in right away, but they definately should soon after if not.

Posted by RKSO on Saturday, 09.20.08 @ 20:02pm


Unfortunately they were overlooked this year....just like they're always over looked, just like theyr'e always critisized, just like they're always hated by every critic out there! I cant believe that people can see some of the gems of the band, and i cant believe some think that they arent worthy.

Not only have they influenced countless artists, they have influenced a whole brand of music and proven that an 80's hairband can be successful if they work hard enough. And, they not only had an influence on musicians, they've had an influence on all working class people, whatever the profession to work hard, and do what you love because anything is possible.

Bon Jovi dont need the rock hall to tell them they're great...they had 2 million people this past tour telling them that, they have 120 million albums sold to tell them that, they have over 35 million concert goers throughout their careers to tell them that. But, it would be nice if critics recognized them for who they are every once and a while.

Keep rocking boys.

Posted by Nizar Masri on Monday, 09.22.08 @ 14:30pm


Not only have they influenced countless artists, they have influenced a whole brand of music and proven that an 80's hairband can be successful if they work hard enough. And, they not only had an influence on musicians, they've had an influence on all working class people, whatever the profession to work hard, and do what you love because anything is possible. - Nizar

What artists exactly did Bon Jovi influence? What genre of music did they influence?

I think it is well acknowledged that the biggest influences on the 80's Hard Rock/Pop Metal/Hair Band scene were Van Halen, Def Leppard and Motley Crue. And those bands were influenced by the early 70's hard rock bands. And let's not forget the influence Cheap Trick had on the whole decade. Bon Jovi didn't hit until the middle of the decade, long after these three bands started dominating the radio and MTV. The only thing Bon Jovi did was sell more albums and that is not a major benchmark for the Hall of Fame. If Bon Jovi influenced anything, it was bands like Warrant and Nelson which in turn signaled the end of the scene as the dominant genre out there at the time.

I think this snub was well deserved. They don't deserve to be in, at least not for a very long time.

Posted by blah-blah-blah on Monday, 09.22.08 @ 14:40pm


And just one more thing...if anyone doesnt believe that the boys are rock royalty, take a look at this performance of Keep the faith....still gives me chills everytime i watch it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSGaJTNLii4

It has everything u need...RICHIE IS A GUITAR GOD!

Posted by Nizar Masri on Monday, 09.22.08 @ 14:42pm


Bon Jovi have to get in! come on,they started the unplugged movement for crying out loud! Remember that awesome presentation at the MTV Music Awards, living on a prayer...wanted dead or alive?! They have so many hits, and in 2008 they're still kicking some serious A$% and selling out arenas! THEY GET IN! PERIOD!

Posted by Fernando on Monday, 09.22.08 @ 19:46pm


One of these years, YES, Bon Jovi WILL get in to the Rock Hall of Fame. Why? Any Bon Jovi fan can tell you why. The more albums they make the better the get, the more the fans love them, and more and more fans they get each year. It's the truth too. I have been a Bon Jovi fan since the first Album and will continue until the day I die. BON JOVI IS #1 in my book, to me the ABSOLUTE BEST EVER. Maybe not to everyone, but I will guarentee that they make it IN!

Posted by Sue on Monday, 09.22.08 @ 22:04pm


I'm convinced that Bon Jovi fans must not listen to anything else, therefore have nothing else to compare it to. Saying you'll be a Bon Jovi fan "until I die"...my only hope is that your horizons broaden a little before then.

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 09.22.08 @ 22:14pm


When I first heard "Wanted Dead Of Alive" it reminded me of "Desperado"-era Eagles. I looked up the song on Wikipedia and found out BJ originally planned to make a concept album about the Old West, which is exactly what the "Desperado" album is about. Later BJ decided to scrap the idea. Three Christmases ago, someone asked me to play "Wanted Dead Or Alive" on the guitar. I did and then I followed it with David Blue's "Outlaw Man" which was included on the "Desperado" album. Both songs use the wanted cowboy as a metaphor for a rock star. (The preceding song on "Desperado" "Certain Kind Of Fool" alson uses this metaphor)

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 01:15am


I admit that I am NOT a Bon Jovi fan.
I was forced to listen to them ad nauseum many times a day for a period of 2 years- often, the same songs...roughly 20 times...in a row.

While Bon Jovi have indeed made an impact on Society with their influence, it has been mainly due to their "pretty boy" looks, 3 hairstyles (which in 3 decades is no easy feat), and songwriting ability, which limited as it is, is a factor. They also tend to play more to women, which dominate the planet, population-wise. Smart marketing on their part.

I feel that they have not yet achieved the proper status for Hall OF Fame consideration, but as someone said so plebianistically, "no one gives a s**t" what I think.

So, let's face it: they'll get in, or the Judging Committee won't get laid. End of story.
We're going to get force-fed their influence until they're 80, and can't hold their water anymore. Let them get in- it just confirms what I, and many other honest musicians think....that Rock & Roll Truth Is Dead.

Posted by Midnight Rocker on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 02:32am


Bon Jovi haters: how many bands can still sell-out 60,000 and 70,000 night in and night out. their last 5 or 6 tours have sold out. and they have up to 100 shows, so thats close to 7,000,000 fans. and how many bands currently in the hall have sold 120 million+ albums? not many. the biggest joke in the hall are the sex pistols. they had what one album maybe two. end of story bon jovi in hall of fame period.

Posted by mike on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 13:55pm


one more thing, its the rock n roll hall of fame. hair metal is considered a genre of rock n roll. run dmc isnt a rock band no matter what anyone says bon jovi should be in before run dmc who should never be in cause they arent a rock band. now im done

Posted by mike on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 14:03pm


I appreciate your need to vent about Bon Jovi Mike, but they are a third generation Hair Metal Band. They wouldn't even register a blip on the radar if it wasn't for Cheap Trick, Def Leppard, Motley Crue, Dokken, Scorpions, and even Quiet Riot. Those bands succeeded long before Bon Jovi ever hit a stage. Yes, they sold more records that the bands I listed, but that does not guarantee induction. Just ask KISS. And the music they are releasing now sounds like the Boy Bands, only with guitars.

Posted by blah-blah-blah on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 14:15pm


well shouldnt some of those bands you listed be in the hall? its the rock n roll hall of fame and glam/ hair metal is a form or rock in roll. if def leppard or motley crue or any of those bands you named got in i think bon jovi should get in. def leppard belongs in the i think kiss does too but it should be like all other hall of fames they should go with the best and only the best by going by album sells or something like that. and to me the scorpions arent hair metal. have you heard their latest album? its more hard rock then hair

Posted by mike on Tuesday, 09.23.08 @ 19:44pm


Blah - I agree with your sentiments on this subject.

Mike - The criteria for the HoF is clearly stated: Innovation, influence and perpetuation of the music. Although I believe sales should have a little bit to say about it, I don't think it should account for all that much. And BJ has very little if nothing of the first three

My personal opinion is BJ getting in before many of the bands that have been named and it would be a shame. But I know that BJ knows how to play the game as well as anyone and Wenner will probably let them in first. But that is still awhile away.

Scorpions certainly should be named here because their peak was at the same time as the rest of these bands. They were not a Hair Band and neither was Def Leppard, but they are all closely associated with them. I prefer listing them both as precursors to the scene.

Okay - time for work. Let's keep the Coven conversation to a minimum today.

Posted by Dameon on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 03:08am


i think bon jovi should be in but there is wayy many more bands who should get in before they do. if they get in let it be years down the road after the ones who should be in before them. i dont care if they get in in 30 years as long as they get in and the others who deserve it get in

Posted by mike on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 07:32am


Pleased that Bon Jovi wasn't considered this year- it's not like the band is on the level of a U2 or R.E.M., who were kinda no-braners. BJ isn't anywhere near as acclaimed or important as those bands.

Foreigner and Journey have never been cosidered thus far- why hsould Bon Jovi? Because they sold more records than those bands? Doesn't matter.

Posted by JR on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 12:37pm


Bon Jovi has been around for many years. Have written their own songs and still have the original members. They have sell out concerts to this day and #1 hits. They deserve Hall of Fame.

Posted by Kim on Wednesday, 09.24.08 @ 13:37pm


Two words for Bon Jovi: The Tubes.

Posted by Midnight Rocker on Thursday, 09.25.08 @ 00:43am


They were one of the first groups to play in the USSR because the Russians knew they were HARMLESS.

Posted by denyo on Friday, 09.26.08 @ 09:54am


Perhaps Bon Jovi deserves to get in...but not quite yet. Yes, he has the requisite 25 years after his first recording, and his string of hits are impossible to ignore. But among other things, he is still relatively new to the rock scene, and there are a lot of others that clearly influenced Bon Jovi that are not yet in the Hall (Journey is a clear example). Mostly, though, induction into the Hall should be the top of a career, and Jon Bon Jovi is still in his forties, and except for his hairstyle, doesn't look much different than when he started. Inducting him now would be a lot like the People's Choice awards (or whoever did it) when they gave Whitney Houston a Lifetime Achievement award when she was in her twenties or thirties. Which they did.

Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 09.30.08 @ 20:04pm


I'm just a wee bit confused on that last Bon Jovi quote:

Perhaps Bon Jovi deserves to get in...but not quite yet. Yes, he has the requisite 25 years after his first recording, and his string of hits are impossible to ignore. But among other things, he is still relatively new to the rock scene, and there are a lot of others that clearly influenced Bon Jovi that are not yet in the Hall (Journey is a clear example).

Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 09.30.08 @ 20:04pm
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He's been around 25 yrs., is eligible for the Hall, yet is still relatively new? If he was still (relatively) new, he wouldn't be eligible here!

Later on you commented about his hairstyle changing now that he's in his 40's. Amongst others, McCartney, Jagger, Bono, & many others did the same thing over time. Unless this is the haircut Hall of Fame, I'm not so sure that's quite relevant (though if you asked Haircut 100 they'd probably champion this quite vigorously).

I know what your getting at here, o.k. You want the older acts first. I will not re-iterate my "quit punishing eligible acts cause of others not in before them" spiel. I just wish I knew where that logic was coming from.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10.1.08 @ 05:23am


Good questions, Cheesecrop, and I will do my best to explain: Any "hall of fame" award is, at least to me, sort of a lifetime achievement award, a crowning achievement of a great career. Bon Jovi's music still is making the Top 40, at least as of last year. I have no doubt that he will have many more hits in his career.

Induction also kind of smacks of a group ready for retirement. I realize that there are exceptions--U2 and Aerosmith both had several very recent hits when they were inducted--but look at either of those acts (then or now), look at any of the acts that are currently eligible...and look at Bon Jovi. Which one doesn't look like AARP members?

Make no mistake, I like Bon Jovi. I have seen two of his concerts, and he puts on a hell of a show. But they seem fairly out of place in the Hall...at least now.

Oh yeah, the hair thing...I mentioned that aside from the hair, he looks pretty much like he did 25 years ago. Can you say that aout any other HOF member, in ANY Hall of Fame (sports, etc.)?

Posted by Joe on Thursday, 10.2.08 @ 17:35pm


Oh yeah, the hair thing...I mentioned that aside from the hair, he looks pretty much like he did 25 years ago. Can you say that aout any other HOF member, in ANY Hall of Fame (sports, etc.)?

Posted by Joe on Thursday, 10.2.08 @ 17:35pm
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Let's try on a new name or two for him, then:

Count Jovi?

Count Bon-ula?

Count Jov-ula?

Does this mean Heather Locklear is the bride of Jovi? A jovi-al bride? This does answer 2 questions though.

1. Why did Melrose Place go off the air? Answer: she finished off the cast - literally
2. Is there more to the name of that arena football team (the Phila. Soul) than meets the eye? Perhaps.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10.2.08 @ 19:18pm


Perhaps Bon Jovi should get in, but not before Journey--whom the members (and the music) agree influenced them. Influence is still one of the criteria, right?

Posted by Joe on Saturday, 10.11.08 @ 08:38am


wow! i thought it's a rock'n'roll hall of fame, not freakin country...Bon Jovi is the worst sell out on Earth right after Shitallica....let the MANOWAR get in! the TRUE METAL!

Posted by Metalhead on Monday, 11.10.08 @ 23:23pm


Metalhead, You don't have much of an argument. Whenever people dislike a particular band, and can't provide a good reason why they dislike the band they use the terms "sellout" (which doesn't mean anything) or "corporate rock" (which could apply to any band). And Bon Jovi aren't country Metalhead. That alone disqualifies your argument.

And I'd like to hear a reason why you don't think Metallica are good other than calling them "Shitallica." I'm not a Metallica fan but I would like to see a more thought out argument next time.

Posted by Keebord on Tuesday, 11.11.08 @ 10:41am


Bon Jovi is about as relevant as the Backstreet Boys.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Monday, 12.8.08 @ 06:00am


Bon Jovi should one day get in, but definetly not before one of their biggest influences, Journey. Journey paved the way for Bon Jovi to do stadium rock. To say that Bon Jovi changed music or invented arena rock is wrong. Journey started arena rock and the power ballad and Bon Jovi took off from that.

Posted by Nate on Thursday, 12.11.08 @ 10:56am


Nate you are also very anal and a litte too sweet. Go back to Steve Perry page.

Posted by Worm on Thursday, 12.11.08 @ 11:11am


By the way, for those who say that Bon Jovi are one of the most loved bands in the world : please get a reality check. Most rock fans see them for what they ae which is sellouts, they shouldnt go to the Hall of Fame.

Posted by Paddy N on Friday, 12.12.08 @ 14:04pm


Worm go back to your hole and get a reality check too while your in there.

Posted by Nate on Monday, 12.15.08 @ 10:54am


Keep eating shit, people. One billion flies can't be wrong.

Posted by denyo on Thursday, 12.18.08 @ 19:50pm


I have been a fan since slippery. Being around the age of the band members, I have grown up with them. Most people move from different bands during their lives as their lives change. Bon Jovi has allowed us to grow with them. Trust me, if you are in your 40s you feel the lyrics of Lost Highway. I see every age group at Bon Jovi shows. Any band that can keep my attention for 20 plus years deserves the hall of fame. thanks for the songs and memories. I hope to have many more.

Posted by moldee on Friday, 12.19.08 @ 23:53pm


HolyCrap, I Don't Even Realy Like These Guys, But How Are They Not In?!?

Posted by Tyson on Tuesday, 12.23.08 @ 09:17am


Because they only became eligible this year.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 12.23.08 @ 11:12am


And because they don't deserve to be in.

Nate...........How do you figure Journey should be credited with Arena Rock (Is that even a genre) when it was bands like Led Zep, The Who, The Stones, Queen and Aerosmith were years ahead of them. And here is one for you. A little band sold out Shea Stadium back in 1965. Maybe you can remember them.

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Friday, 12.26.08 @ 12:59pm


I still see some citing number of hits- that alone is npt going to get an act into the HOF. As many have stated, Bon Jovi is more akin to Journey and Foreigner than U2 and R.E.M.- meaning the band isn't in any way a no-brainer for the HOF. In essence, BJ is harmless rock, and the band commands a great concert-tour following, no doubt. But HOF material?

Well, if John Mellencamp eventually got in, then maybe BJ could. I don't mind Mellencmap (I'd say he'sa stronger act than BJ), but he's sort of the poor man's Bruce Springsteen in a way.

Posted by JR on Monday, 01.12.09 @ 21:32pm


The fact that Bon Jovi IS NOT ALREADY in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is despicable....really makes me think that those responsible for inductions really don't know what they are doing. I have lived through ALL of rock & roll, beginning with Elvis and recognize the millions of lives that Bon Jovi have touched. When I read some of the bands that are in the Hall of Fame...Dave Clark Five? are you kidding !?*!? That makes me feel "Bad All Over" - what did they have? - three or four total songs??? Did they ever put on a concert? Bon Jovi was the top grossing tour of 2008 because hundreds of millions of fans enjoyed their concerts last year. Jon Bon Jovi was voted number 3 Top Rock God of all Time recently...only Freddy Mercury and Elvis came before him. Bon Jovi are also one of the top selling rock bands of all time. Are the people on this nominating committee asleeep?, drunk? stroke victims?, or just plain idiots? BON JOVI IS A DEFINITE YES, and frankly, if they don't get in the Hall of Fame, I'll never visit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - and I have toured much of the United States. I am truly questioning the integrity of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the US and those who sit on their committees. Again, I came to the internet tonight to see if the rockin boys from New Jersey received the honor what they so well deserve, and when I found they were not nominated, I am completely, thoroughly disgusted with the nominating committee. To the members of Bon Jovi.....we tip our hats to you and thanks for all the wonderful music you've given us to groove to....To the Nominating Committee of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.....may you go down in total shame!

Posted by Barb on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 00:01am


Barb,

Most of us agree with you that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame doesn't have a clue. They have snubbed many bands. One thing that a lot of us agree with the Hall is the exclusion of Bon Jovi, at least for now. Your points of record and concert sales is certainly valid. The problem is that those are not part of the criteria for induction into the Hall. Here is where BJ has not earned the right into the Hall:

Innovation: None

Influence: minimal at best

Perpetuation: They are a 2nd generation 80's band who took the blueprint set forth by Def Leppard, Motley Crue and a few others and added pretty faces to it. If Bon Jovi never existed, the 80's would pretty much have remained the same musically.

Yes - they have made many people happy. No one can deny that. All respect to them for that. And most likely they will be inducted because they play the game so well. But not yet - not before a few other bands of that genre are inducted first.

By the way - although I am not the biggest DC 5 fan, trust me, DC 5 are just as important to RnR as BJ

If you want to bitch about the Hall - then ask this question. Why weren't The Stooges inducted the other day?

Posted by Blah-blah-blah on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 06:30am


If you've been around as long as R&R, and you make those kind of statements about the Dave Clark 5, then you must've been livivg in a cave during the early 60's...!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 07:22am


I am surprised that Bon Jovi is not in the hall. I am a fan but do agree with many of the points brought up. Good and bad. But 25 years.. 120 million sold... still hottest ticket anywhere in the country.. How come no one killed Bruce when he went country or even dixie? The band tried something new and it was not bad at all. Also for those who say they have no talent.. take a look at the performance at the HALL OF FAME concert out doors a few years ago.. they had the WHOLE crowd into it. They do deserve to get in but do I think they are on the level of the Stones? NO... but REM??? YES!!! REM OPENED for Springsteen for crying out loud and they are in? Some one tell me that REM is a bigger or better band then Bon Jovi and I will just rest because that person is out of their minds!!

Posted by BJFan on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 12:27pm


BJ Fan - rest your mind. Bon Jovi may have a larger fanbase, but when it comes to importance, they lag way behind REM. REM is one of a handful of bands that changed the Alternative scene. They are sited by many bands that came after them. Radio Free Europe was a groundbreaking record.

All Bon Jovi did was add prettier faces and more love songs to a genre that had already been redefined by Def Leppard in 1981 with the release of "High and Dry". D.L., Quiet Riot, Motley Crue, Dokken, Ratt, Autograph and many other bands whom are part of the same genre as BJ released records and scored hits and radio play before BJ released Runaway.

Record sales are not a make or break item when it comes to induction into the Hall.

Blah has is right - sorry! And by the way, I am more of a fan of the Hard Rock scene than I am of the Alternative scene, so don't think I am being prejudice.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 14:28pm


I am getting a huge kick out of some of these comments.... From Blah Blah Blah....Bon Jovi has had "Minimal Influence". How many bands, (or corporate heads, or politicians, or salesmen, dictators, commercials, you get the idea) have "influenced" hundreds of millions of people to do anything? VERY FEW. Yet millions of people have purchased the music of Bon Jovi, purchased tickets for their concerts, driven hundreds of miles to get to the concerts, waited in line to see them, purchased their t shirts & calendars. Oh yeah, that's right, CD and concert ticket sales "aren't the criteria for nomination and induction" ABSURD! How many bands have a fan base ranging from age 15 to over age 60 - oh yeah, that's right FAN BASE DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING - ABSURD!! If that isn't "influence" I don't know what is! The definition of any "musical influence" is the number of people who have been moved by it. Music is written for the pure enjoyment and entertainment of the listening ear. I don't think the 120 million Bon Jovi Cd's sold were purchased as coasters! I also want to comment on them being a "hairband". They just happened to be a talented group of kids working in rock and roll at a time when long hair was "in". And for those who commented about them being just another "pretty face" - Well, you got it! THAT'S the issue. The men of Bon Jovi are so gorgeous and the critics are so insanely jealous of them, they refuse to give them the recognition they deserve. I hope the guys of Bon Jovi make their "musical influence" by thumbing their noses at the RnR Hall of Fame and telling them to kiss their beautiful butts!

Posted by Barb on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 20:48pm





Posted by Barb on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 20:48pm

I hope the guys of Bon Jovi make their "musical influence" by thumbing their noses at the RnR Hall of Fame and telling them to kiss their beautiful butts!


Well Babs
They are a great band... Better than most oodles of fans ... I like them much better than U2 or Madonna.. The band seem likre great guys{That is a PLUS} but...................

4 ME {SMILE}... The band /artist needs to have made an impact then just selling record$$$$$..

Something "new "in what is now getting to be an old game...

I just don't see it.. Heck they out sell Chuck Berry or even Patsy Cline.. I bet.. and they ain't Chuck or Cline... I hope U see what I mean...

Posted by mrxyz on Friday, 01.16.09 @ 22:20pm


To Gitarzan:

I must have been "livin in a cave in the early 60's" because I don't like the Dave Clark 5?

Well, actually I was in Pittsburgh at a Beatles Concert at the (then) Civic Arena listening to some real rock and roll, and listening to WLS in Chicago (radio) with my favorite DJ, Ron Riley.

The Dave Clark Five are mundane, monotone and pretty much have the "look and feel" of most teenage garage bands that pepper the cities and small towns of the US. If Ed Sullivan hadn't had the DC5 on his "really big shu", they would never have had the commercial success they did in the States....and Ed Sullivan had them on his "shu" several times, because they "behaved"....unlike the Rolling Stones, who refused to behave on the "shu" and were not invited back.

The DC5 are about as good as some local teens I know that do karaoke.

So as far as induction into the RnR Hall of Fame.. it should be DC5 OUT and Bon Jovi IN.

Posted by Barb on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 00:28am


Barb, why must Rock'n'Roll be about image? Most of your beef with the DC5 is that they were clean cut. There's nothing wrong with that at all.

And if you think that the DC5 are as good as karaoke teens, then you missed the tribute that Joan Jett did for the DC5. *SHE*, a professional musician (regardless of whatever your opinion of her skill may be, that's what she is) had trouble staying in tune with "Bits And Pieces." And the all-star tribute with "Glad All Over" wasn't too great either, as far as keeping in key.

And your Rolling Stones comparison is baloney for two reasons: one, the alleged misbehaving didn't happen until 1967, by which time the DC5 had already made most, if not all, their appearances on the Ed Sullivan show; two, it's still debated whether or not the Stones complied or not. Sullivan's people said that they did change "Let's Spend The Night Together" to "Let's Spend Some Time Together," while Mick claims he just kind of slurred his way through those two syllables, saying "The Night" incoherently so no one could tell. You're thinking of the Doors, who wouldn't change to appease Sullivan, and thus were never asked back.

I'm not saying Bon Jovi doesn't belong in. I'm all for it. I think both Bon Jovi and the Dave Clark Five belong, and thankfully, the DC5 are there. I like the quote by Alex Van Halen, who said that when he saw the DC5 on the Ed Sullivan Show, he decided to stop playing classical and start playing rock'n'roll. That says a lot, imo. Especially when you consider Van Halen paved the way for acts like Bon Jovi.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 02:08am


"I hope the guys of Bon Jovi make their "musical influence" by thumbing their noses at the RnR Hall of Fame and telling them to kiss their beautiful butts!"-barb

Now there's a statement for you...has everything to do with their music, doesn't it? When I try to look at these guys objectively, to me they were just a part of that "hair metal" era or whatever you want to call it. They really didn't stand head & shoulders above the rest of them. There really wasn't anything unique about them. I'm surprised anyone who's "been around as long as Rock & Roll" would think so, especially after witnessing everything that came before them.

By the way, "barb"...If you were fortunate enough to play the Ed Sullivan Show, it was because of your "commercial success", not because Ed was trying to get you some...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 13:23pm


To Gitarzan:

You are a hoot!

You write sarcastically .... "Now there's a statement for you...has everything to do with their music, doesn't it?"

Well, DUH?!$#? YES, IT DOES!!! It IS about the music, and Bon Jovi is ONE ROCKIN' BAND! and they do stand head and shoulders above the rest - they are still actively writing, producing and performing musically, which many other groups from the 80's are not. Bon Jovi is not just "a group from the 80s". They are as relevant, powerful and popular now as they were then, packing arenas across the globe. If you haven't been to their concert recently, make certain you make it the next tour. You will leave the concert convinced that this is one of the greatest rock bands in the history of rock and roll.

They deserve to be IN the HOF!

And au contraire - Ed Sullivan, Johnny Carson and others brought young up-and-coming acts to their show to market them -- to give them TV air time. Of course Ed Sullivan brought rock groups purposefully to his show to provide entertainment for all age groups and these rock groups won him the teenage market and increased the viewing numbers for his own ratings.

Bon Jovi IN

Posted by Barb on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 14:17pm


Barb - I suggest you check out the RnR Hall of Fame site and see exactly what they regard as the criteria for induction. Sales means very little to the nominating committee and voting bloc.

Posted by Dameon on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 15:41pm


Dameon - That makes perfect sense - I'll just manufacture a huge bunch of useless widgets, and when no one wants to buy them, I'll just sit back and relish in my own astounding "success". Then I will create a website and "museum" for others to visit so they can learn how to make useless widgets, and learn about my personal "influence" in the business world.

If the Hall does not use sales and how many people the musician "makes happy" as part of measuring their "influence" then I have a remarkable chance of getting in the RnR HOF myself! I have an "unusual" style that very few can duplicate as well. No one buys my stuff either - I'M A SHOE IN!!!

The Nominating Committee needs to wake up to what the American public embrace as their "Rock" and maybe we'd pay our hard-earned money to visit their Hall of Fame. Thank god I have my CD's and IPod! - Barb

Posted by Barb on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 17:35pm


Regarding the commercial vs influence & innovation angle -

The Hall may claim to worship at the hallowed feet of artistic integrity, but the Stooges inability to get in puts that into question; although I'm not a fan, the lack of SRV support also does bring this into a clearer picture. Bon Jovi WOULD actually be the kind of band that the Hall might try to induct, knowing all to well that fans would overwhelm the dissenters.

That being said, in terms of I & I there's really nothing to stand on. They have written a slew of great rock tunes, and in a way that does count for something. It was only recently that I realized few on this site have defended the body of rock as a whole entity. In that regard they could be seen as playing a small part in keeping rock rolling along, so to speak. There's not much beyong that, however. No re-invention of the wheel in anyway.

I'll just say this... if they were put in, I wouldn't scream about it, because I do like a lot of their stuff. It wouldn't necessarily lower the stature of the place, ala' Britney or the Jonas Bros. or something. I could certainly live with it.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 18:04pm


"Dameon - That makes perfect sense - I'll just manufacture a huge bunch of useless widgets, and when no one wants to buy them, I'll just sit back and relish in my own astounding "success". Then I will create a website and "museum" for others to visit so they can learn how to make useless widgets, and learn about my personal "influence" in the business world."--Barb

So, "art" = "useless widgets" to you? Astounding.

"If the Hall does not use sales and how many people the musician "makes happy" as part of measuring their "influence" then I have a remarkable chance of getting in the RnR HOF myself! I have an "unusual" style that very few can duplicate as well. No one buys my stuff either - I'M A SHOE IN!!!"--Barb

Influence is measured by how many relevant musicians (and I'm not going to argue that definition with you, you know damn well what constitutes "relevant") cite them as an influence upon their music. To use an example that was used on another thread... if both Paul McCartney and I say Little Richard had an influence and impact on our lives, whose statement do you think will have more weight, more credence, more relevance?

"The Nominating Committee needs to wake up to what the American public embrace as their "Rock" and maybe we'd pay our hard-earned money to visit their Hall of Fame. Thank god I have my CD's and IPod!"

First off, "American" is a myopic view. Accurate as to how the HoF people operate, but myopic nonetheless. Second, you really want to put this to the American populace as a whole? A population that can't find a country on a map until we invade it? The same population that made Paris Hilton a household name? The same population that keeps "Survivor" on television seasons after season? Surely you're not so dense as to not see the point of having actual experts in the field of rock'n'roll having the final say of what goes in and what doesn't.

Now, Cheesecrop brings excellent points to the table. And for the most part, I agree with him. I actually support Bon Jovi's induction. And I do think sales should play a part, because they measure Impact (which I argue is/should be the third "I" pillar) upon a culture, but it DOES need to be heavily filtered. And it is to a degree, with the 25 year rule, but Impact applies to bad things too (like the Holocaust, McCarthyism, the Backstreet Boys), so you've got to handle that with care. Too bad politics of the Nom. Committee factor in too heavily.

Posted by Philip on Saturday, 01.17.09 @ 22:38pm


My arguement regarding Bon Jovi is based only on the criteria that the Hall has set forth. I never said once that I agree with it. In fact, I don't! I think that sales should come into play. When your music falls into the public conciousness, then that has to count for something. But let's look at some of the real snubs so far:

The Stooges, T-Rex and the NY Dolls: They are clearly cited by many bands, musicians, and writers to be major indfluences on the music scene. By not inducting them, the Hall has seemed to ignore their own stated credo, I & I. They are the foundations for Punk, Alternative and Glam.

Alice Cooper and Deep Purple: I still have no idea what the Hall is thinking with both these bands. I think their being shunned makes the Hall completely hypocritical.

KISS: Musically, they mean nothing, yet I doubt you can name many bands that have caused more kids to pick up a guitar for the first time.

King Crimson, ELP, Genesis, Yes: Once again, these bands are all over I & I and some sales, yet the Hall refuses to acknowledge Prog Rock/Art Rock or whatever you want to call it. These boys can play and changed the landscape of music in the late 60's. What is wrong with bringing a little technique to RnR

Cheap Trick: They melded different genres and made some of the most kick a** RnR we have ever heard.

Post-punk: Joy Division, New Order, The Smiths, and The Cure. Definitely I & I all over the place with some commercial success.

Alternative: Pixies, Husker-Du, Guided by Voices - why aren't they in. Nirvana will be inducted as soon as they are eligible and yet I paraphrase Cobain when discussing Teen Spirit "I just wanted to make a record that sounded like the Pixies"

Motorhead: without them, you probably do not have Metallica and Megadeath.

Def Leppard: They took aspects of the NWoBHM and added a bit of pop sensibilty to it. The fact is that there is no market for Bon Jovi and many of the other mid-80's bands without D.L. Several writers and music critics have called Pyromania and Photograph as the defining record and song of that time period. And they are still headlining tours and recording new music. And BJ cannot touch D.L. musically.

If Bon Jovi was to be inducted one day, I would certainly not be completely against it just as long as the bands that truly defined that era or others have been put in before them.

Why does RnR even need a Hall of Fame? It goes against everything that Rock is supposed to be about.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 01.18.09 @ 06:34am


Dameon...As I've stated before, in my opinion, if there HAS to be a HOF it would have a whole lot less inductees than it has now. If you really think about it, there are only a handful of artists who would be consensus picks for such an honor...no argument whatsoever. It has become so saturated now that it doesn't really mean much. If you throw in the names of the blatant ommissions, then the whole concept becomes questionable at best.

From my point of view, I really don't know who is even qualified to make such decisions...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 01.18.09 @ 07:26am


I always thought that having a Hall of Fame was stupid to begin with. The point of my diatribe was the uselessness of it all. As for the bands I mentioned, if you are going to have a Hall, then you need to be on point with your inductees.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 01.18.09 @ 08:10am


Would you agree that being as subjective as it is, that everyone has a different Hall of Fame? How does the old saying go..."one man's medicene is another man's poison"? I don't think your "HOF" would differ a great deal from mine, but we would think other people's are a conundrum...LOL!!! That's why I try to stay away from "who deserves to be inducted" conversations...even though sometimes I end up right in the middle of them...LOL!!!!

Take the Beatles, for instance...I've heard people call them the greatest rock band ever, but in the beginning a lot of people thought of them as a "pop" band or a glorified "cover" band. In recent weeks, I've heard comparisons of Wanda Jackson to Patsy Cline. Patsy, in my estimation, was never a "rockabilly" singer...just straight forward country. Comparing "apples and oranges", if you will...

That's why I like giving my overview of a band instead of why they should be "inducted"...it makes for more interesting conversations.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 01.18.09 @ 10:50am


Perhaps you are right Gitar. I guess I become so heated at times here is because of my love for the artform that is Rock and Roll. We all canot love the same music, but we can at least appreciate those artists that had a helping hand in creating it. And I don't mean every band; I mean the ones that were at the start of something, good or bad.

Posted by Dameon on Sunday, 01.18.09 @ 12:12pm


I agree...I have times on here that I've hesitated responding to a ridiculous post because I don't want to get drug into a totally useless and counter-productive conversation. I try to lean toward more civil and learned conversations because I, too love the artform. Sometimes I feel like I have to say something, though.

There are always going to be the "so & so sucks" and the "beautiful butts" posts, but when someone outright insults an artist that I really appreciate, it does get my dander up a bit. SRV has been a target lately, which I totally don't understand. Of course, I don't raise or lower the bar on good or bad taste, either. Like I said, "one man's medicene...."

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 01.18.09 @ 12:39pm


Suck Shit

Posted by L Efant on Thursday, 02.12.09 @ 19:09pm


With L Efant on this one.

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 02.14.09 @ 12:22pm


They suck major balls.

Posted by S.R on Wednesday, 03.11.09 @ 16:41pm


Top grossing world tour of 2008

Already been inducted into Great Britain's Rock Hall and New Jersey Hall of Fame

Major influence to many people for over 25 years

Sold over 120,000,000 records

They have won many awards, including--Grammy, American Music Award, Golden Globe...

Their latest album debuted at #1 on the Billboard Charts.

The band continues to be relevant.

Are known for their Humanitarian efforts to charitable causes.

Posted by Serpephone on Thursday, 04.2.09 @ 12:34pm


freakin amazing definatly should be in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by tarquell mathis on Thursday, 04.9.09 @ 07:40am


bon jovi is definately getting in. just look at serpephone's comment. it says it all.

Posted by k-sizzle on Thursday, 04.9.09 @ 07:42am


Bon Jovi has had so many hits. they deffenetly diserve to be in the hall no question

Posted by J-Dogg on Thursday, 04.9.09 @ 07:43am


Bon Jovi's definitely getting in. They racked up many rock hits in the 80s and 90s and were great live in concert. If they don't get in, the Hall of Fame should be embarassed

Posted by alex on Monday, 04.13.09 @ 16:39pm


Bon Jovi is hardly a noi-brainer like a U2 or R.E.M. Having hits should not- andis not- enough to get into the HOF. Before Bon Jovi, there were arean-rcok bands like Foreigner and Journey, and that's the kind of band BJ should be lumped with before ones like U2 and R.E.M. Of today's bands, Nickelback would fit in with them as well- safe, mainstream rock acts. Not that I don't like some BJ songs, but I don't think BJ is an automatic inductee by any means.

Posted by JR on Friday, 04.17.09 @ 10:20am


Bon Jovi's one of the best rock bands in the world! It they don't deserve to be in then no one else does. They rock and stood the test of time. Not so many bands can do as much as they can.

Posted by GH on Friday, 05.8.09 @ 02:02am


http://www.songhall.org/news/entry/757

BON JOVI is being inducted into The Songwriters Hall of Fame Thursday, June 18 at the Marriott Marquis Hotel in New York City.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 05.11.09 @ 18:37pm


Hey Matt, Come a little closer so I can kick your sorry azz. Don't diss my band like that.
Of course Bon Jovi needs to get in. They are still kickin butt after 25 yrs. Bet in 25 yrs. you can say that about any band from this decade.

Posted by sambora4me on Thursday, 06.11.09 @ 20:21pm


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Posted by inceniafoexqwabiop on Friday, 07.24.09 @ 00:28am


They'll probably get in but i don't like them that much.
A band like G'N'R was/remains much better and epic, like they are a class over BJ, but some of their songs I reckon are very good

Posted by Gervag on Saturday, 09.5.09 @ 16:10pm


I voted NO, I like Axl much better, he was so much more charismatic, also Slash is 10 levels over BJ's guitarist Sombora or whatever his name is
About their induction into the The Songwriters Hall of Fame, come on, they're probably left with no people to induct anymore and they do that

Posted by Gervag on Saturday, 09.5.09 @ 16:17pm


I didn't realize Slash was "10 levels" above Richie Sambora as a guitarist! I've played for a long time, and I didn't realize there are "levels" to guitar playing...please elaborate!!

Even though I'm not a Bon Jovi fan at all, I will avknowledge that Sambora is a pretty good player...probably not "10 levels" below anybody.

It's okay to express an opinion, but talk sense...or at least don't form opinions about things you know nothing about...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 09.5.09 @ 17:51pm


I'm not a Bon Jovi fan but show Richie Sambora some respect, I'd like to see how good you play in comparison to him

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 09.5.09 @ 18:29pm


Bon Jovi is a joke but I'm sure they will get in. They should induct Desmond Child with Bon Jovi since he wrote of the songs that they are known for. They have minimal talent but have mangaged to keep all the posers happy out there. Next Stop for Jon, the male stripper wannabe hall of fame.

Posted by Really? on Friday, 09.25.09 @ 18:22pm


They SUCK! Chick band. Any male who likes them is a db.

Posted by on Saturday, 09.26.09 @ 14:50pm


I've come back to reiterate and highlight my talking points, and to add:

Inducted into Songwriters Hall of Fame

Top grossing world tour of 2008

Already been inducted into Great Britain's Rock Hall and New Jersey Hall of Fame

Major influence to many people for over 25 years

Sold over 120,000,000 records

They have won many awards, including--Grammy, American Music Award, Golden Globe...

Their latest album debuted at #1 on the Billboard Charts.

The band continues to be relevant.

Are known for their Humanitarian efforts to charitable causes.

(Originally Posted by Serpephone on Thursday, 04.2.09 @ 12:34pm)

Posted by Serpephone on Sunday, 10.11.09 @ 01:09am


And yet they still suck.... Safe, balls-less music made for housewives

Posted by Ken on Sunday, 10.11.09 @ 16:40pm


all 80's metal and rock sould get in there its when muisc was good and did it for fun and love of it

Posted by 80's on Wednesday, 10.21.09 @ 02:42am


all 80's metal and rock sould get in there its when muisc was good and did it for fun and love of it

Posted by 80's on Wednesday, 10.21.09 @ 02:42am
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and for money as well.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 10.21.09 @ 06:05am


Recently I was talking w/a friend about Bon Jovi. He said that they always reminded him of nothing more than a straight rock act that dressed themselves up as metal just to sell, though they didn't need to. I bring this up because so much of Bon Jovi's work has the Springsteen vibe to it (and yes, I do know the reason why).

I thought about this in regards to the notions of innovation & influence. You can say he swiped from Springsteen, Seger, Mellencamp, etc., but my question is, just how innovative were those guys, from the standpoint of the Rock Hall's perspective? None of them necessarily reinvented the wheel themselves, yet the platitudes heaped on them are quite substantial. The criteria talks about the "perpetuation" of rock. Could you not argue that Bon Jovi was helping to perpetuate this bar band style by dressing it up in a hair-metal trapping for the 80's?

Just something that crossed my meager brain yesterday.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Saturday, 10.31.09 @ 05:57am


If people would just get over the hair band thing, Bon Jovi would be taken seriously. You have to dig a bit deeper into their catalog to understnad what they're really about.

And even if you think they're just pop fluff, so are plenty of other bands in the Hall of Fame. Bon Jovi is too big to ignore. ;)

Posted by Katy on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 07:03am


I have to dig deeper into their catalog...???? Uh, no thanks!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 11.1.09 @ 08:13am


Screw influence (for those who say they aren't influential...), they are one of if not the most popular rock band since the eighties, they are as popular as ever now, 20 plus years later, they HAVE to be in.

Posted by Chris on Saturday, 11.14.09 @ 13:02pm


"Screw influence" - Chris

Your attitude towards influence won't change the fact that influence is major criteria for induction

Posted by Keebord on Saturday, 11.14.09 @ 13:59pm


^Exactly. Not sure why people aren't undersanding that commercial success/popularity alone will not do it.

Posted by JR on Saturday, 11.14.09 @ 18:21pm


To me Bon Jovi is like Def Leppard Lite, and they would have gotten nowhere if it wasn't for MTV and Jon Bon Jovi's looks

Seriously who have they influenced, Daughtry? that's really an accomplishment

Posted by Greg on Tuesday, 11.17.09 @ 14:22pm


Looks like Jon is as disillusioned as some fans, as far as commercial success goes.

"We've sold a lot of records and influenced another generation of fans, and the music has got staying power." he also saus he *intends* to be in, so look out for a major campaign. ha

Posted by JR on Sunday, 11.22.09 @ 12:54pm


I dont what your problems are 120 MILLION records sold most DOUBLE platnum they can do any genre

Posted by TheCheif on Sunday, 11.29.09 @ 13:40pm


I understand that influence has to be a major reason, the major reason, for induction. But to what extent can success be ignored? I'm not too big a fan of Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, or any hair bands outside of a few songs here and there (unless you consider GNR to be a hair band), but I guarantee you almost all of the truly influential artists that no one with half a brain will argue against being in, like Jeff Beck (whom I love), would gladly give their left nut to have been even close to as successful as Bon Jovi.

And by the way, if they influenced Daughtry, George, and you don't like Daughtry (me neither), it doesn't mean they don't deserve credit for influencing a successful artist. I hate grunge and everything it influenced but I know damn well that Nirvana deserves to get in.

Posted by Chris on Monday, 12.14.09 @ 15:33pm


Good morning
I loose control!

Posted by Big bonus on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 12:28pm


Bon Jovi was the embodiment of "radio-friendly metal" in the 80s, having mixed Springsteen-esque themes with pure rock, making them more deserving of induction than other acts like ABBA

Posted by Alex on Tuesday, 12.15.09 @ 16:56pm


INFLUENCE - you mean when the Beatles's song "Helter Skelter" influenced Charles Manson...or when Bon Jovi's song
"Living On A Prayer" influenced and gave
hope to millions. That's one of three reasons to vote them into HOF.

INNOVATION - the last innovation was when someone stuck an electric cord into a guitar, melodies are as wonderful as ever..the lyrics are still memorable, only they play the music unbearably loud. Bon Jovi plays acoustic guitar every chance he gets. Thats two.

The Bon Jovi band members are healthy wealthy ladykillers. Thats influence and innovation...drug free, money wisely spent and Jon can convince every women in the audience with "Hi Mamma" that he is talking only to her.
We like it that way. Thats three.

Posted by Mary Hadnot on Sunday, 12.27.09 @ 21:37pm


It'll happen eventually, they've had the longevity and the hits, and if the Rock Hall keeps nominating weak classes (like another 2008 or 2010) or they nominate acts that the voters hate (like KISS) they could benefit like many other bands in the hall have from weak induction years.

Posted by Jim on Saturday, 01.16.10 @ 23:04pm


Thanks Jim, your comment is a great point of view.

Posted by Mary on Sunday, 01.24.10 @ 23:41pm


Hi, I'm new around here, but I'm stunned by some of the stuff that people are trying to use. "living on a prayer was best song of 80's according to VH1" or something like that. That was a fan vote. However, they were ranked #76 on VH1's 100 Greatest Hard Rock Artists in 2000.
"Moscow Music Peace first concert of its kind in the U.S.S.R" That was just as much thanks to the presence of Ozzy, Motley Crue (BJ signed with the Crue's manager, Doc McGhee) and Scorpions (the latter were huge worldwide.
"after being in the buisness for over 20 years, and selling over 100,000,000 records these guys deserve more than ANYBODY" The Hall doesn't look at sales. We can argue about whether they should, but it's irrelevant.
"In my opinion, Bon Jovi has inspired an appreciation for music that had been dying in recent years, and their appeal to today's generation is greatly important and hard to miss. Their ability to trascend the traditional problems facing musicians in the notoriously difficult music business and reach new generations of fans shows how they adapt to new trends in the music industry." Oh... my... God. Yes they should be respected for surviving in the industry, but the first bit sounds like one of those "rock is dead" statements, when that isn't even close to true.
"oh man its no question in my head these boys deserve this more than anything!!!" There are plenty of artists who deserve it more. If you want to know who, just ask.
"INFLUENCE - you mean when the Beatles's song "Helter Skelter" influenced Charles Manson...or when Bon Jovi's song
"Living On A Prayer" influenced and gave
hope to millions. That's one of three reasons to vote them into HOF.

INNOVATION - the last innovation was when someone stuck an electric cord into a guitar, melodies are as wonderful as ever..the lyrics are still memorable, only they play the music unbearably loud. Bon Jovi plays acoustic guitar every chance he gets. Thats two.

The Bon Jovi band members are healthy wealthy ladykillers. Thats influence and innovation...drug free, money wisely spent and Jon can convince every women in the audience with "Hi Mamma" that he is talking only to her.
We like it that way. Thats three." Pathetic. When we say influence we mean did anyone try and imitate them? How many people listened to Ritchie and decided they wanted to play guitar. The "Helter Skelter" thing wasn't the Beatles fault, and is a much better song than "Prayer." Oh, and Ted Nugent was the first on record drug-free musician (or Ronnie James Dio), and I'm pretty sure the boys liked to drink back in the day.
"course they will be on the hall of fame they're the best band ever whit the best guitar player sambora(also wonderful voice)the best rock singer bon jovi best batery player tico tores and best pianist david bryan and don't forget alec that is not longer in the band" They're not even close to being the best band of the 80's, let alone all-time, and Jon is the only one who could come close to "best" at what he does.
"The DC5 are about as good as some local teens I know that do karaoke." I will let you think that, "Barb", having not really listened to them, but: Joan Jett, someone who I really respect and think should be in, performed a tribute to them at their induction, as did Billy Joel, so forgive me if I hold their opinion in higher regard than yours. So anyone who doesn't sell "sucks" in your mind? How bogus.

Okay, here's the deal: Dameon perfectly summed up their significance in the 80's (though he forgot that they opened for Ratt, Scorpions and KISS, and signed with Motley Crue's management, and adopted the hairband look, which Jon now considers embarassing.) I'll enjoy some of Jovi's stuff when the mood is right, and I won't kill the Committee if they get inducted. Having said that, as William, Kit, Liam, Dameon, Terry and various others have been trying to explain, they were not particularly groundbreaking or influential, and in the 80's fit nicely into the pop metal scene, and weren't the best of the bunch. Someone mentioned Coldplay, Nickelback, Goo Goo Dolls, All-American Rejects as influences. I checked and couldn't find any mention of any of them citing BJ as an influence. Coldplay's sound is rooted in U2, Radiohead and the Smiths. Nickelback is post-grunge, meaning that their sound is rooted in Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains (especially the latter.) They may very well be inducted, but it should be at the very least after Alice Cooper, KISS, Crue, Def Leppard and the Scorpions (oh, and maybe Ratt and Quiet Riot.) Don't forget the New York Dolls either. There are many others waiting who deserve it more as well (just ask who), so if they were on the ballot next year and someone asked me to vote, I would have to vote no. Go ahead and enjoy them though.





Posted by Sam on Thursday, 02.4.10 @ 18:04pm


To me Bon Jovi is a poor man's Def Leppard. Def Leppard started way before Bon Jovi, influenced Bon Jovi's sound tremendously, rocked harder than Bon Jovi, and simply wrote more interesting melodic rock songs.

Posted by Ken on Thursday, 02.4.10 @ 19:36pm


I agree, Def Leppard should be in first, as should the Crue, but before them T.Rex, Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, KISS, Judas Priest, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, NY Dolls, Thin Lizzy and Motorhead should all be there. Then Def Lep and the Crue can go in with Venom, Slayer, Anthrax and Megadeth. That's how it should go in terms of 70's and 80's hard rock and metal, but the best we can hope for with that is KISS, Ozzy, Bon Jovi, Leppard, the Dolls or Alice, Priest, Maiden or Motorhead, Megadeth, and Slayer or Anthrax get in. The window of opportunity has closed for T.Rex, Deep Purple and Thin Lizzy, Venom's too obscure to be noticed, and the Crue will never make it because critics don't think kindly of the hair bands.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 02.5.10 @ 11:20am


INFLUENCE - you mean when the Beatles's song "Helter Skelter" influenced Charles Manson...or when Bon Jovi's song
"Living On A Prayer" influenced and gave
hope to millions. That's one of three reasons to vote them into HOF. (Mary)

Well, I nominate this comment as being the dumbest ever on this forum.

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 02.5.10 @ 18:35pm


Yep. "Helter Skelter" has been covered by U2, Aerosmith, Oasis and Motley Crue. There are probably many more. Try and find how many bands have covered "Prayer" and see how far you get.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 02.6.10 @ 16:03pm


Okay, fanboys and girls, serious question: If for some reason this happened (Jon's friends with Wenner and Little Steven loves them, so it certainly could happen), do you think Alec John Such should be inducted with them? Just something I've had on my mind, since he would be being honored as a Rock legend, despite the fact that he isn't that good a bass player, didn't write anything for BJ, and hasn't done jack in the industry post-BJ (since 1994.) If Ronnie James Dio can be not inducted with Black Sabbath despite ressurecting (spelling?) their career, singing on three albums (four if you count The Devil You Know) and writing plenty, then surely they can not induct someone who was completely unimportant to the band. What do you think?

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 02.20.10 @ 11:42am


The action taken to local and national disasters is noble but it's a damn shame that so many citizens take advantage of the negative situations.

I mean everytime there is an earthquake, a flood, an oil spill - there's always a group of heartless people who rip off tax payers.

This is in response to reading that 4 of Oprah Winfreys "angels" got busted ripping off the system. Shame on them!
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/19/crimesider/entry5251471.shtml

Posted by Shavearyperge on Saturday, 02.27.10 @ 15:54pm


Okay, it looks like everybody's left me stranded here. Well then, I'll do a Keltner analysis to settle the discussion while I rock out to Ted Nugent:

1. Were Bon Jovi ever regarded as the best artist in rock (Did anyone seriously suggest this)? No, not that I know of. However, they're not as critically hated as you might think: Classic Rock Magazine ranked New Jersey #57 and SWW #9 on their 100 Greatest Rock Albums. They then collaborated with Metal Hammer for the 100 Greatest Hard Rock Albums and SWW made #23. They then made a 200 Greatest Albums of the 80's, and both albums appeared there, then they made two more appearances in the 200 Greatest Albums of the 90's (as did one of Jon's solo albums.)

2. Were BJ ever the best artist in rock music in their genre? The narrator for VH1's 100 Greatest Hard Rock songs said that they were head+shoulders above the rest in 1986 pop-metal, but how much that means is debatable. On Classic Rock's Album list, they were the highest charting pop-metal/glam-metal band (unless you count G'N'R.) In terms of that sub-genre, I happen to hold Motley Crue, Ratt, Quiet Riot and Def Leppard all in higher regard, and DL is generally considered to be the better band, though BJ could very well be ranked the best by some as they were among the most popular. In terms of Hard Rock, no way are they the best in my mind, though I still have to listen to a full BJ album.

3. Were BJ ever considered the best at their instruments? Generally not. Sambora would come closest (and Jon, if you count the voice as an instrument), and Jon came in at #12 on Planet Rock's 40 Greatest Rock Singers, a list that was compiled by industry people. However, I've never seen any of them outside of that ranked anywhere near the best at what they do, and I share that sentiment, though Jon could come close.

4. Did BJ have an impact on a # of other bands? Maybe. Jon did discover Cinderella in a club and get them signed to Mercury, and Skid Row was signed to Atlantic thanks to Jon and Snake Sabo being childhood friends (both are good bands.) All-Music Guide lists as followers: Damn Yankees (though everyone in that band was working professionally before BJ showed up, and Nugent was apparently trying to fit into the pop-metal crowd while BJ was still an opening act), Skid Row (though any BJ sound in the 1st album isn't clear, and they moved away from pop-metal after that), Slaughter (again, not too much BJ sound). The rest listed I've never heard of.

5. Were BJ good enough that they could play after their prime? Yes, and still popular.

6. Are BJ the very best artist in history not in the HOF? Subjective, but right now I think not.

7. Are most bands who have a comparable recording history and impact in the HOF? There are actually plenty of bands waiting that made more of an impact.

8. Is there any evidence to suggest that BJ were significantly better or worse than is suggested by stats? No, but Jon has said that their 80's look was embarassing, making it sound like they were trying to cash in on the hair band craze rather than being themselves.

9. Are BJ the best artist in it's genre eligible for the HOF? Not to me, but millions would disagree.

10. How many #1 singles/gold records? Any Grammy wins or nominations? 4 #1's in the U.S. Lots of chart success in other countries. 2 Gold albums here so far, 4 platinum and 6 multi-plat. 8 nominations (plus one for Jon solo), no wins.

11. How many Grammy-level songs/albums did BJ have? How long did they dominate the music scene? How many Rolling Stone cover apperances? Did most of the bands with this type of impact go into the HOF? I have a lot to hear but I hear some great songs right now. One of the biggest bands in the world in the late 80's and though their popularity has slipped slightly in the U.S. they've still found great success, are still playing stadiums and have also found success at the very least in the U.K. Canada and Australia. No RS covers that I know of, but Jon did alone. Many bands still waiting have had more impact.

12. If BJ were the best band at a concert, would it be likely that the concert would rock? Jon sings in lower registers now so I'm not sure if it would be as good as before (less single, scantily clad chicks) but I know I'd have some fun.

13. What impact did BJ have on rock history? Any stylistic changes? New equipment? Did BJ change history? One of the most popular pop-metal bands, and you could maybe say that they mixed that w/Springsteen type themes. Their Moscow Peace Fest. show with Ozzy, Motley, Scorps and Skid Row was the first rock show in Russia. No new equipment, and few new styles. Possibly the Moscow show changed history, but otherwise no.

14. Did BJ uphold the standards of sportsmanship + Character that the HOF in it's written guidelines instructs us to consider? Sambora had his personal problems, but Jon's kept a stable family together, and does charity work (I think.)

Posted by Sam on Monday, 03.1.10 @ 20:26pm


A bit rushed there to fit it all in; my apologies. So looking at that, you could maybe make a case for them getting in the Hall, but they should get in a long line. They're not even the first in the pop-metal line; that would be Def Leppard or the Crue, and KISS would be first if you consider them to be part of that group. I certainly won't go on daily rants or firebomb the Hall if they make it in ahead of the other snubs I can think of, but considering that Jon is friends with Wenner it would certainly look like to many people (not really to me) one of those favoritism things the Hall's been accused of before (this mainly has to do with rumors of prejudice, and the large number of Atlantic Records artists that have gone in) and though the Hall would gain a big money boost from inducting BJ instantly it would also be an even bigger loss of credibility in the eyes of many other people.

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I mean everytime there is an earthquake, a flood, an oil spill - there's always a group of heartless people who rip off tax payers.

This is in response to reading that 4 of Oprah Winfreys "angels" got busted ripping off the system. Shame on them!
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/19/crimesider/entry5251471.shtml

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Hi Gitar. I had pretty much taken possession of this page. You're right though. Jann Wenner hates prog, thus prog bands will not get in, even if they're worthy of getting in (yes, Genesis and Pink Floyd got in, but Genesis were an easy choice because of their massive popularity under Phil Collins which had nothing to do with prog, and they had to wait a long time. Similarly, Floyd were too big to ignore, and they actually do like PF, which means they probably don't think of them as prog due to their lack of classical elements.) Dave Marsh doesn't believe Deep Purple has enough good music to deserve getting in (Dameon e-mailed him), and therefore they'll never get in. KISS is a questionable one (you know the thing with him and KISS), but I believe their massive influence makes them deserving. The elephant in the room was gotten rid of (that being them being kept off the ballot), so maybe they'll get in. Even though I don't think the late 70's/early 80's arena "corporate rock" acts (Journey, Foreigner, Boston) deserve to get in, they'll be kept out because they haven't gotten the seal of approval (rightfully so, but still...) You may have noticed people claiming Bon Jovi were the first rock act to play in Russia (alongside Scorpions, Ozzy, Motley Crue and Skid Row, but they forgot to mention that...), but that's actually incorrect. I am currently watching the BBC performances shown on BBC Four's "Heavy Metal Brittania" program (I'll try and find the actual show later), and it flashed up on the screen during a Uriah Heep performance that THEY were the first rock band to play Soviet Russia. So much for all the posturing on this page. I read through all that mess before I posted my first comment, and I read through it all again to see what your opinion was. You and I have almost the same opinion on the subject. They broke no new ground (mind you, I have much more of their stuff to listen to), their influence seems to be limited and their impact/perpetuation is limited, as I doubt pop-metal/hair-metal would've been that much different if they hadn't come along (unless you think Cinderella and Skid Row changed things.) I'm in the same mind as Shawn actually: When you're creating music stardom is usually in your mind (not always, such as The Smiths, but usually.) Therefore, sales and chart success should take a back seat to the three I's (Innovation, Influence and Impact), but I do think popularity should somewhat be taken into account, but it only applies if you fit at least one of the I's (which is why Britney, Backstreet Boys, N'SYNC and Celine Dion may become worthy of the Hall someday if they put in some serious work [Celine's got 5 years before she's eligible], but they're not right now.) As for Bon Jovi: Jon is a great singer IMO, they have produced some good music, I do love all the charity work they do (apparently Jon builds houses for Habitat for Humanity; I spent two weeks doing that in New Jersey and Pennsylvania), and they do deserve respect for being savvy businessman and for still being able to top the charts and fill stadiums after 27 years. They definitely know the business. Is there a place in rock history for that? Certainly, but that place is not in the Hall. End of discussion. If they do deserve to get in, it is only after the major Hard Rock/Metal acts get in, after the major players in Pop-Metal get in, and only after the worthy acts in other genres are dealt with. In other words, after a lot of other artists. Nonetheless, the Hall has made a lot of screw-ups with both critics bands and popular bands, and BJ does have the popularity and the connections to be noticed by the committee, which is why I'm resigned to them getting in at some point, and probably ahead of the bands that paved the way for their success (seems to be a trend of doing that with the Hall.)

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 03.21.10 @ 20:04pm


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Posted by Accetscap on Wednesday, 03.24.10 @ 19:11pm


"Well Babs
They are a great band... Better than most oodles of fans ... I like them much better than U2 or Madonna.. The band seem likre great guys{That is a PLUS} but..................." mrxyz

It doesn't matter what you think about U2, their induction was a no-brainer

You'll never hear me dispute that SCORPIONS are the greatest band in the world, but you're wrong. Bon Jovi are still out there and they're just as popular as ever.

Posted by Metalsmith on Tuesday, 04.1.08 @ 14:44pm

Nope. Iron Maiden and Deep Purple>Scorpions

"who cares if you dont like one of the greatest(THE GREATEST) all american bands who no matter what have stayed true to who they are and where they came from and, have stayed loyal and true to us fans. It doesnt matter what yall think, bon jovi, these boys are a shoe in. bottom line"-Jessie

They're still really popular after all these years and are friendly with Wenner, Springsteen and Little Steven, so I do think they have a good chance. I won't lose any sleep over it if they do, it'll just be overestimating their importance (which is not much.) However, they're not the greatest American band. Not even close.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 03.27.10 @ 15:46pm


JON BON JOVI rocks hard!He has to be in the rock legends!His songs are very hard core!Are some of you people saying that keep the faith isn't insperational?!Ofcourse he's insperational.I guess people that are not fans at all don't have a heart.That song is saying to keep faith!Hellow!Anyways,people that love bon jovi like me...EPIC!

Posted by FranciscaTrevino on Sunday, 03.28.10 @ 10:50am


Bon Jovi is hardcore...and so is Daffy Duck!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 03.28.10 @ 12:16pm


No BJ is not hardcore. Motorhead make them look like Celine Dion. "Keep the Faith" is a great song but try to put together a proper argument then we'll talk.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 03.28.10 @ 14:53pm


I feel that The Smiths and New Order may make it in soon, Gitar. The idea of one of them (or both) making it in before BJ (or even being nominated first) is very exciting; my God, I'd love to see what some of these people will say about it, shooting themselves in the foot in the process. (Imagines "Barb" returning to the page: "The Smiths? New Order? Who in God's name are they? They sold, what, twenty records between them? As opposed to Bon Jovi's 120 million records sold? TURN THE VOTING OVER TO THE FANS NOW!")

Posted by Sam on Monday, 03.29.10 @ 19:38pm


The Smiths and New Order are both of a much higher quality then Bon Jovi, that makes all the difference.

Posted by Greg on Monday, 03.29.10 @ 20:18pm


I'm not that big a fan of The Smiths, but keeping them out just because they did very little in the US is foolish. After all, they only wrote the rule-book for British indie, with Morrisey and Marr having complete control of the songs, and they ONLY influenced almost every indie act that followed. New Order ONLY fused together indie, synth-pop and dance music, and they pretty much got the Hacienda going (and their royalties kept it alive until the late 90's.) On the other hand, I can't see pop-metal being all that different without Bon Jovi.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 03.30.10 @ 16:43pm


Okay I'll throw the BJ fans a bone. If they really did incorporate working-class themes into their music in the 80's (Springsteen meets Def Leppard), couldn't that be considered innovative? And weren't they one of the only bands using keyboards in pop-metal/hair-metal? I'll listen to the whole of the first four albums and give you an answer. Tough call on the latter, however, as Whitesnake had "Here I Go Again" written in 1982. I'm listening to the original right now, and though it's not as heavy as the original and has more of a soul emphasis it still has the keyboards on it (Jon Lord, actually), and Coverdale had the hair-band look down right there (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmdoP8wHUJw&feature=related). Also, turns out Def Leppard were using keyboards on Pyromania.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 04.7.10 @ 19:43pm


I AM PROTECTING BON JOVI! WAT IF I TALKED BAD ABOUT YOUR BANDS? HOW WOULD U FEEL?!I'M SORRY THAT BON JOVI FANS HAVE 2 HEAR THIS CRAP!4 THE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THE 80s AND 90s....EPIC! I AGREE,WAT U GUYS LOVE FROM 80s AND 90s, I LOVE!WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.PLEASE DON'T HATE ON BON JOVI!REMEMBER HE'S FROM THOSE TIMES AND HE ROCKS!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 15:13pm


I AM PROTECTING BON JOVI! WAT IF I TALKED BAD ABOUT YOUR BANDS? HOW WOULD U FEEL?!I'M SORRY THAT BON JOVI FANS HAVE 2 HEAR THIS CRAP!4 THE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THE 80s AND 90s....EPIC! I AGREE,WAT U GUYS LOVE FROM 80s AND 90s, I LOVE!WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.PLEASE DON'T HATE ON BON JOVI!REMEMBER HE'S FROM THOSE TIMES AND HE ROCKS!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 15:19pm


Hey "FRANCISCA" do you know a "Karen?"

Posted by Joker on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 18:45pm


I think the two might be mutually exclusive, Joker. I'm not "hating" on BJ; I actually like some of their music, as I like a great deal of other 80's and 90's music. But, this is how it stacks up for BJ:

-Innovation: Little to none
-Influence: I'm sure there's some, as there is with almost every popular band, but certainly not a lot that I can find
-Perpetuation/Impact: None.

They do have a good chance to make it in, and nothing the Hall could do would surprise me at this point. Logically, however, BJ is behind a long line of artists.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 04.11.10 @ 19:01pm


No,i don't know a karen.Anyways,bon jovi deserves 2 be in the hall of fame!What's up with the freak singers now?!MILEY CYRUS...VOMIT!SELENA GOMEZ IS A MEXICAN AMERICAN LIKE ME!SHE GIVES US A BAD NAME!THERE ARE MORE BON JOVI FANS THAN MILEY AND SELENA FANS!I REALLY WISH I WERE BORN IN THE 80s!I ALWAYS HANG OUT WITH 80s FRIENDS.WE HEAR BON JOVI,OFCOURSE,ACDC,ROLLING STONES,SURVIVOR,DURAN DURAN,a little elvis,michael jackson,and more...

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Wednesday, 04.14.10 @ 16:37pm


I was born in the 80's. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but I'll join you in taking down Disney Channel.

Support Deep Purple and Judas Priest in 2010!

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 19:17pm


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Make a long story short Gulf Coast Western -an oil corporation- was contacting me to approve my job application - apparently I got the job!

I think I'm soooo fired!!!!!!!

Posted by tokBrorNkar on Thursday, 04.15.10 @ 21:51pm


One thing we agree on is 80s and 90s were great! And that disney channel SUCKS! Like i said,you tell me something from the 80s,and i'm opened 2 it! BON JOVI,anybody. OFCOURSE,BON JOVI WILL ALWAYS BE MY ALL TIME FAVE SINGER,THAT WON'T CHANGE AT ALL,BUT I STILL LOVE OTHER SINGERS FROM 80s and 90s.EXEPT 4 BRITNEY SPEARS! I FORGOT 2 MENTION HEWY LEWIS AND THE NEWS,KENNY LOGINS,QUEEN,and MORE ARE REALLY AWESOME!ANYBODY ELSE GOT A 80s BAND OR SINGER THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT? SO I CAN HEAR THEM OUT.

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Saturday, 04.17.10 @ 06:55am


80's? The Smiths, New Order, Joy Division, Motley Crue, Quiet Riot, Sade, Def Leppard (if you like Jon Bon Jovi, as I do, you'll love Joe Elliott's voice), Skid Row, Ratt (Bon Jovi's contemporaries, just like Motley Crue and Def Leppard and Skid Row)... That'll do for now.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 04.18.10 @ 18:03pm


THANKS SAM.I THINK I'VE HEARD OF SKID ROW?I'll CHECK OUT JOE ELLIOTT.

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 15:41pm


You're welcome. Joe Elliott is the singer of the band Def Leppard, who are very similar to 80's era Bon Jovi.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 04.21.10 @ 16:34pm


CHECKED HIM OUT.VERY WICKED KEWL!SAM DO U KNOW SIMPLE MINDS?AND SONG:DON'T U (FORGET ABOUT ME)FROM THE BREAKFAST CLUB?BY THE WAY MOVIE IS EPIC!

Posted by Francisca Trevino on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 15:34pm


I know the song; Billy Idol and Bryan Ferry were both almost tapped to sing that. I haven't seen the movie.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04.22.10 @ 15:46pm


The movie is about 5 teens who find out that there's more than just fitting in school.The song suits the movie perfectly!You can't be worried wat people think.The movie sends the perfect message!They don't make great 80s and 90s movies anymore.I wish they'd bring back the 80s and start all over.Wat i'm saying is;i wish i were born in 1970.I would have seen the 80s and 90s!EPIC!!!!!!! Wat do u think?

Posted by FranciscaTrevino on Friday, 04.23.10 @ 16:44pm


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
Hair metal rubbish they suck

Posted by Craig on Saturday, 04.24.10 @ 05:02am


WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!CRAIG.ANYWAYS,ANYBODY HEARD OF A SHOW CALLED SUPERNATURAL?IT'S EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MY FAVE ALL TIME SHOW EVER!IT HAS 80s 2 IT.ALOT OF 80s SONGS!!!!!! BON JOVI:WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE,OZZY OSBOURNE:NO MORE TEARS,ACDC:BACK IN BLACK,AND MUCH MUCH MORE EPIC SONGS!THE ACTORS PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!4 GIRLS; HOT SEXY GUYS!4 GUYS TOTAL BAD ASSES!!!!!!!!!THERE ARE THREE REGULARS ON THE SHOW.JENSEN ACKLES:DEAN WINCHESTER,JARED PADALECKI:SAM WINCHESTER,MISHA COLINS:CASTIAL(ANGEL).THEY'RE IN SEASON 5 NOW.IN THE APOCOLIPSE!THE ENDING EPISODE WHO KNOWS!!IT SHOWS AT 8:00 IN TEXAS WHERE I LIVE.ON THURSDAYS.WHERE YOU LIVE AT 7:00 OR 9:00.ALWAYS ON THURSDAYS!IT'S EPIC!CHECK IT OUT!PLZ!I SWEAR YOU'll LOVE IT!CHECK ALL 3 TIMES 7,8,AND 9.IT'S ON THE CW CHANNEL.

Posted by Francisca Trevino on Saturday, 04.24.10 @ 09:28am


I did see the 90's... kind of.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 04.24.10 @ 11:11am


Have u ever seen supernatural or boy meets world? They HARD ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SUPERNATURAL IS ON THIS 2000s!THE ONLY PURE SHOW LEFT FROM 80s AND 90s! IT COVERS EVERYTHING FROM THOSE TIMES!AND BOY MEETS WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!! PURE COMEDY!!!!!!!!!! DISNEY SUCKS 4 TAKING IT OFF AIR!!!!!!!!!! ABC FAMILY SHOWS IT AT 7:00 WHERE I LIVE.SUPERNATURAL IS MY FAVE SHOW EVER!!!! THAN BOY MEETS WORLD(FROM 90s),MOONLIGHT,CHARMED AND BLOOD TIES!TOP 5!TWO R VAMPIRE SHOWS.THEY ROCK 2.WATCH THESE SHOWS!!!!!!!!! U WON't REGRET IT!!!!! TRUST ME!

Posted by Francisca Trevino on Monday, 05.3.10 @ 17:50pm


Speaking of vampire shows... I like True Blood.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 05.4.10 @ 12:03pm


No it's on HBO.I don't have that channel,but i've heard of it.I read a book about it.From wat i've heard from the show,the book's better.I forgot the name of the book.....dead something.Have u ever seen any of my top 5 shows?

Posted by Francisca Trevino on Tuesday, 05.4.10 @ 17:29pm


No.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 05.6.10 @ 20:49pm


A succinct but correct assessment.

Posted by Chalkie on Thursday, 05.6.10 @ 20:56pm


You mean about the idea of Bon Jovi getting in? Because I'd fully agree if that's what you're saying.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 05.7.10 @ 20:23pm


About bon jovi? HE totaly rox! Come on give him a chance!plz people?

Posted by Francisca Trevino on Friday, 05.7.10 @ 20:47pm


Sorry, I thought you were saying "no" to Bon Jovi in the Hall.

Posted by Chalkie on Friday, 05.7.10 @ 21:05pm


I was. Read above; there were at least 300 comments above where Dameon, Shawn, William, Kit, Liam, Anon and Dezmond all tried to explain why, yet they either fell on deaf ears or were met with verbal mudslinging. Would you agree with our opinion on the matter?

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 05.9.10 @ 21:44pm


It is my firm belief that Bon Jovi does not belong in the R&R HOF.

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 05.9.10 @ 22:03pm


Right. Innovation; none to minimal. Influence; minimal. Perpetuation; Dameon explained that better than I ever could. If the Hall ever decides to address pop-metal BJ will be standing behind a few other bands.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 05.10.10 @ 21:33pm


"As Kit's already explained, the British Hall is open to fan voting. I'd be willing to bet they have more than their share of glaring omissions, as well." - William

Yep. Some major mistakes there. Thankfully it closed in 2007.

"Bon Jovi DO NOT follow trends they stay true to who they are and where they came from and still write their OWN LYRICS!!!"

They don't follow trends? I saw an interview in People in December where Jon admitted their 80's look was embarassing. Rather than being themselves they became a pop-metal band (though that might've been what Jon had in mind all along), adopted the "cool" look and made themselves look like Def Leppard and Motley Crue wannabes. Not to mention that country was the cool thing in '07. Yes, they do mostly write their own lyrics, but they've been relying on Dezmond Child since '86 for some writing, and they originally called him in to write "Livin' On a Prayer" (if they hadn't broken out there they would've been dropped from their label.)

"What other group lasted that long and maintaining good quality?. Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, who else?" I haven't cared for the post-70's stuff I've heard from Aerosmith; they definitely lost all their edge after that period. And there are plenty of people who don't care about any new material the Stones have released since the 70's or early 80's; the fact that they still sell out shows is based on nostalgia and the fact that they're a legendary band. May I also draw you to, for longevity and still selling out shows: Deep Purple, Scorpions, AC/DC, U2, R.E.M. Springsteen, The Who, KISS, Iron Maiden, Rush... just a shortlist.

"REM OPENED for Springsteen for crying out loud and they are in? Some one tell me that REM is a bigger or better band then Bon Jovi and I will just rest because that person is out of their minds!!" First of all, bigger? Yes. But that's where it ends for me. As Dameon said, Bon Jovi has nothing on R.E.M. in terms of importance, and to say otherwise reeks of ignorance. Second, why is it a big deal if a band that's had success is opening for someone? (See the Rush page for further discussion.) R.E.M. were one of the biggest bands in the world in the early to mid 90's (and were a vital band long before that), and I believe can still play arenas, but if they did open for Springsteen as you say then that means they got to play stadiums with a legendary artist who puts on great live shows (seriously, he and the E Street Band still go non-stop for 3 hours.) If Bruce asked me if I wanted to open for him (no, I'm not a musician) I'd say yes in a heartbest.

Okay, that's all on Bon Jovi for now.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 05.11.10 @ 18:51pm


U PEOPLE DON'T HAVE GOOD TASTE IN MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!! LET ME GUESS U PREFER A DISNEY CHANNEL SINGER IN THERE RIGHT?! OR A STUPID EMO BAND THAT MIGHT CAUGHT THEMSELVES RIGHT?!WAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH U PEOPLE!U'RE SO CONSITED!BON JOVI ROCKS AND U KNOW IT!DON'T B JEALOUS!I HATE THAT!!!! GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!!!I'M SERIOUS WAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE,I WANT TO KNOW!BON JOVI HAS SANG SONGS THAT HAVE TOUCHED BILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S HEARTS!!!! EVEN MINE!I LOVE DRY COUNTY! I KNOW HE'LL BE IN THE HALL OF FAME 4 SURE!AND U KNOW IT'S TRUE! 4 THE TRUE FANS(LIKE ME)OF BON JOVI,PRAY THAT HE DOESN'T READ WAT THESE IDIOTS WROTE!HARSH BUT TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP ON ROCKIN'!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.16.10 @ 17:11pm


WHO THE HELL IS R.E.M.?! BON JOVI IS A HUGE LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIGGER THAN THAT BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES,BIG IN THE 90s,WHERE R THEY NOW!? HAS BEENS! R.E.M. CAN'T TOUCH BON JOVI! PEOPLE BARELY KNOW OR REMEMBER THEM!BON JOVI NUMBER ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! 4EVER!!!!!! ROCK ON BON JOVI!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Tuesday, 05.18.10 @ 18:10pm


bon jovi may have not influenced the bands but sure as hell influenced the people.Lots of people have been influence by this band and no one can denie that.

Posted by icebox on Tuesday, 05.18.10 @ 21:09pm


"Lots of people have been influence by this band and no one can denie that." - icebox

You've got me there. I won't deny that.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 05.18.10 @ 21:37pm


THAT'S WAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY!BILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY WAT HE DOES!LIVIN' ON A PRAYER,BLAZE OF GLORY,DRY COUNTY,KEEP THE FAITH,I BELIEVE,HEY GOD,BULLET,IT'S MY LIFE,AND MUCH MUCH MORE LEGENDARY HIT SONGS!BON JOVI 4EVER!KEEP THE FAITH PEOPLE!BON JOVI HAS FAITH 4 U.Y DON'T U REPAY HIM WITH THAT FEELING.

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Wednesday, 05.19.10 @ 15:13pm


By what "they" do. Don't forget Ritchie helped write most of those songs.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 05.19.10 @ 20:14pm


SORRY TYPO.OFCOURSE!RICHIE(4 me)IS THE BEST GUITARIST EVER!!!!!!!!!HE'S WICKED EPIC!!!!!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Thursday, 05.20.10 @ 15:04pm


Sambora is the best guitarist...in his whole house...maybe...!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 05.20.10 @ 19:40pm


I'm with Gitar on this one. Great guitarist, but... Ritchie Blackmore, Gary Moore, Brian Robertson/Scott Gorham, Steve Howe, Alex Lifeson, Ted Nugent, Dave Mustaine, Dave Murray/Adrian Smith, Dimebag Darrell, Vivian Campbell... all these guys would blow him off the stage IMO. Stevie Ray Vaughan wasn't technically better but would destroy him in terms of soulfulness. And that's without getting into guys already in the Hall, and without getting into guys who aren't technically brilliant but play well within the song. The Edge, Andy Summers, Bernard Sumner, Johnny Marr, Andy Gill... I know Gitarzan will second most of these.

Ah, just a couple weeks then Joy Division and Gang of Four will be eligible in Rock Hall Revisited. Now, if I could convince the masses...

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 05.20.10 @ 21:34pm


Sam...as with other artists that I've given plugs to, the best way to get J.D. and GOF into peoples heads is to post performances from youtube here. It really would behoove people to take a look at whatever is posted...might learn something and/or become a new fan...

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 05.20.10 @ 21:55pm


Sam...check this out. It kinda shows how technically gifted Stevie Ray was. That aspect of his playing is often overlooked because of how effortless he played and how emotional it was. Sambora couldn't touch him...technically or otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MENbFDUEsn8

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 05.20.10 @ 22:10pm


You're right...I DO like the players you mentioned besides SRV, too...

Posted by Gitarzan on Thursday, 05.20.10 @ 22:20pm


IF U'VE HEARD OF THE GREATEST BAND THAT EVER LIVED(2 ME)BON JOVI!U'LL LOVE JOAN JETT AND THE BLACKHEARTS!THEY'RE EPIC 2!I HAVE GREAT TASTE IN MUSIC(IN MY OPINION).IF U'VE HEARD OF THEM THAN U MUST LOVE:I LOVE ROCK N'ROLL,BAD REPUTATION,CHERRY BOMB,NEW ORLEANS,CRIMSON AND CLOVER,DO U WANT 2 TOUCH ME,AND I THINK THERE ARE MORE GREAT SONGS THAT WERE HITS.THESE R THE SONGS I LOVE!EPIC!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Friday, 05.21.10 @ 15:32pm


Yes, Joan Jett's awesome. I don't know about the Blackhearts, but she should be in with The Runaways. "I love Rock 'n' Roll", "Crimson and Clover" and "New Orleans" are all covers, albeit well-done covers. She had me fooled.

And yes, Stevie was phenomenal, undoubtably one of the greatest. At some point my friend and I might wear out "In Step". He actually was discovered by Bowie at some Jazz Festival and played on the Let's Dance album ("Let's Dance" good, "China Girl" bad), which was more than enough money to make Texas Flood. He was offered a spot in Bowie's touring band which would've made a LOT of money but he turned it down to continue with Double Trouble.

Speaking of JD, I'm a bad person. Tuesday was the 30th anniversary of Ian hanging himself and I forgot about it. I'm too busy watching "Closer" right now to give a proper lesson, so in memory of him and to enlighten the masses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZwMs2fLoVE

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 05.22.10 @ 14:12pm


They played that particular BBC Session track on the "New Order Story" (available very rarely on VHS; from 1993), and at one point they stopped the track and had the camera on Bono and he said: "The holy voice of Ian Curtis." Enough said. Plus, listen to the studio version of "Transmission" and "I Will Follow" back to back; an uncanny resemblance in style and structure. That's not to say U2 ripped off JD, just that the influence is very clear.

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 05.22.10 @ 14:14pm


OK.SO......U'VE ALL HEARD OF BON JOVI,JOAN JETT AND THE BLACKHEARTS.EPIC AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!HOW ABOUT THE SONGS HUNGRY LIKE THE WOLF?I LOVE THAT SONG!!!!!!!GREAT BEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!LYRICS R WICKED!!!!!!!!!I GREW UP WITH THAT SONG AND WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE BY BON JOVI,BEAT IT,EVERY BREATH U TAKE BY THE POLICE.THESE SONGS ALWAYS SHOW ON TV AND MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAVE U HEARD OF THEM?IF U HAVE WICKED AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.23.10 @ 07:22am


I have The Police' Greatest Hits at home; definitely a worthwile listen. I also appreciate some of Sting's solo work. I don't think I'm supposed to like Sting or New Order because I'm at my core a rockist, and I'm not "supposed" to like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard and Motley Crue because I listen to hardcore metal. It's called a "rockist" attitude. I'll let the Franz Ferdinand frontman explain it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/may/26/wholelottamorley?showallcomments=true#start-of-comments

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 05.23.10 @ 16:53pm


I LOVE DEF LEPPARD!ONE OF THEIR SONGS SHOWED ON SUPERNATURAL!!!!!!!!!!!MY FAVE SHOW THAT EVER EXISTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THE SONG WAS ROCK OF AGES!!!!IT ROCKED!!IT SET THE MOOD 4 THE SEASON FINALE OF SEASON 5!!!!!JUST LIKE WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE SET THE MOOD 4 SEASON 3 FINALE!!!!!!!I CRIED IN THOSE FINALES!!!!!ALOT!!!!!THEY REALLY SET THE MOOD!!!!!!I LOVE THAT SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THE BEST SHOW EVER MADE!!!!IN MY OPINION.SUPERNATURAL 4EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK THAT ROCK OF AGES IS THE BEST SONG THEY'VE EVER DONE IN HISTORY.I HAVE IT ON MY IPOD NOW.I ALSO HAVE MY TOP 100 OF BON JOVI SONGS IN THERE 2!!!!!!THEY R HEROS 2 ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!BON JOVI FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JENSEN ACKLES IS MY FIRST HERO!!!!!!!!!!!FROM SUPERNATURAL,HE PLAYS DEAN WINCHESTER!EPIC!!!!!!BON JOVI(THE BAND)R MY 2ND HEROS!!!!!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.23.10 @ 17:21pm


BUT MOSTLY JON BON JOVI!!!!!!!!!!HE'S SO DEEP!!!!EVERYBODY HAS A FAVORITE!!!ME,JON BON JOVI!!!!!!!THEN RICHIE SAMBORA,DAVID BRYAN AND TICO TORRES!!!!!!!!!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.23.10 @ 17:26pm


"Bon Jovi brings rock to Russia."

Somebody up there forgot how to spell "Uriah Heep" because they were actually the first Western rock band to play Russia.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 05.28.10 @ 17:19pm


Oh,YEA!I REMEMBER!AN HONOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY R ONE OF THE BIGGEST BANDS THAT EVER WALKED THIS EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TO ME,NO OFFENCE,BUT BETTER THAN THE ROLLING STONES!!!!!!!!SORRY,BUT THAT'S MY OPINION!!!AND PROUD OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BON JOVI,4EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I KNOW U'LL THINK I'M WIERD,BUT I DON'T LIKE THE BEATLES!!!!!!!!!!!THE ONLY SONG I LOVE FROM THEM IS TWIST AND SHOUT CAUSE IT SHOWED IN FERRIS BUELLAR.IF IT HADN'T I WOULD NOT HAVE LOVED THAT SONG.WHO KNOWS.TO ME THEIR ONLY GOOD HIT!!!!!!SORRY!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Friday, 05.28.10 @ 17:57pm


BON JOVI,THAT BAND MAKES ME FEEL SO PUMPED UP!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M IN KARATE(TAE KWAN DO).EVERYTIME I HEAR THEIR MUSIC FOR A TOURNAMENT,I ALWAYS WIN SOMETHING!!!!EITHER FIRST,SECOND,THIRD!!!!!! THEY ALWAYS GIVE ME LUCK!!THEY'RE SO DEEP!!! WHEN I HEAR JON SING THE HEAVENS OPEN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RICHIE'S GUITAR!!!NO WORDS!!!!!!!!!WITH THE BEATLES AND ROLLING STONES U DON'T GET THAT!!!!!!IN MY OPINION.

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 11:38am


BON JOVI,THAT BAND MAKES ME FEEL SO PUMPED UP!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M IN KARATE(TAE KWAN DO).EVERYTIME I HEAR THEIR MUSIC FOR A TOURNAMENT,I ALWAYS WIN SOMETHING!!!!EITHER FIRST,SECOND,THIRD!!!!!! THEY ALWAYS GIVE ME LUCK!!THEY'RE SO DEEP!!! WHEN I HEAR JON SING THE HEAVENS OPEN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!RICHIE'S GUITAR!!!NO WORDS!!!!!!!!!WITH THE BEATLES AND ROLLING STONES U DON'T GET THAT!!!!!!IN MY OPINION.

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 11:41am


Well, that explains FRANCISCA TREVINO's fetish with Bon Jovi...too many blows to the head!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 12:38pm


Terrible, terrible music written by egually inadequate musicians. Completely lame!

Posted by Bobby on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 12:57pm


Ritchie Sambora is not the best player in the world, but I certainly wouldn't call him an "inadeqaute" guitarist. I might consult my brother, who is a punk and metal guitarist. I know Gitarzan will agree with me on that one. From September 5 2009:
"Even though I'm not a Bon Jovi fan at all, I will avknowledge that Sambora is a pretty good player...probably not "10 levels" below anybody."

Posted by Sam on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 13:26pm


Absolutely...Sambora is a very good player. I consider myself a "very good player". However, there are players out there who are on a whole other plane. It's hard to explain, but you sure know it when you hear them...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 14:51pm


OH,YEA GITARZAN AND BOBBY,WAT DID U DRINK!!!!!!!OH,AND F U GITARZAN!!!! LIKE U DESERVE THAT NICKNAME!!!!!!!! U WOULDN'T KNOW A GUITAR PLAYER IF IT KISSED UR ASS TWICE!!!!!! DUMB ASS!!!!!!AND BOBBY,NO COMMENT,U HAVE UR OWN OPINION!!!THAT'S KEWL WITH ME.EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL!!!!!!!!!LOL!BUT IT'S KEWL.I'M SO PIST AT THAT DOOD!!!!! SAYING THAT I'VE HAD BLOWS IN MY HEAD OR WATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!! AND UR MR.PERFECT!!! WAT BANDS DO U LIKE!!!! I'D LOVE 2 MAKE FUN OF THOSE DIC..........OH,BOBBY DON'T TALK THAT WAY ABOUT MY BAND!!!!!!!THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!!2 HARSH!!!!! LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!!!!PLZ!!!!!AND WAT I SAID WAS 2 GITARZAN!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 18:40pm


Awwww....what happened? Did big, bad Gitarzan strike a nerve and hurt your itty bitty feelings??? Doesn't Bon Jovi have a fan website you can go worship them on (or better yet an altar...preferably one made of porcelain)? Also if you think Sambora is more than just a "servicable" player, then you need to get out of your mom's basement more...

Posted by Gitarzan on Saturday, 05.29.10 @ 19:14pm


U DIDN'T HURT MY FEELINGS DUMB ASS.I DON'T WORSHIP BON JOVI.THAT'S GOING 2 FAR RETART!!I ONLY WORSHIP GOD!!!! HE CREATED US,WE WORSHIP,GET IT MOMMA'S BOY!!!!!WHO DO U WORSHIP MOMMA'S BOY?LET ME GUESS UR LOOKS RIGHT!!!! U MUST B PLASTIC.UR SAYING THAT I LIVE IN A BASEMENT,HOW DO I KNOW THAT U DON'T LIVE IN A BASEMENT?LISTEN SCREW HEAD GO BACK 2 UR SHIT HOLE AND F OFF!WAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH LOVIN BON JOVI?THEY HARD ROCK!LIKE U WOULD KNOW ROCK!!!!BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME!!!!!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 07:41am


Your problem is you're a half-assed fanboy who can't really talk about anything else on this site! Funny thing is, if you're so engrossed into "martial arts", you sure let things get under your skin real easy. Add that to the fact that name calling doesn't bother me much (I just consider the lame source), and you don't have a leg to stand on.

Why don't you tell us everything you know about rock music...I've got a minute or so to kill...!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 08:06am


Better yet...since you're so into using CAPITAL LETTERS, EXCLAIMATION POINTS (!!!!!!), and overall talking like a 5th grader who just learned his first curse words, why don't you and karenjames hook up, get a room, and mentally stimulate each other?

That would be a real riot...!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 08:16am


Better yet...since you're so into using CAPITAL LETTERS, EXCLAIMATION POINTS (!!!!!!), and overall talking like a 5th grader who just learned his first curse words, why don't you and karenjames hook up, get a room, and mentally stimulate each other?

That would be a real riot...!!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 08:17am


WHY R GUYS LIKE U EVEN BORN.GIRLS LIKE ME HAVE BETTER CONTROL!WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH U?!DIDN'T UR MOM TEACH U MANNERS BASKET CASE.I'M DONE.LEARN MANNERS OR ONE DAY A GUY OR GIRL WILL BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF U DUMB ASS.GET OVER IT!U HAVE 2 BE A LOSER TO KEEP THIS GOING.GET A LIFE AND STOP TALKING ABOUT MY FAVE BAND!I'VE MET BETTER GUYS THAN U!TURN UR ACT AROUND!AND I KNOW ALL MY CURSE WORDS,SMART ASS.AND I'M IN 8th GRADE.U MUST B A SIXTH GRADER.IF U AREN'T GO BACK AND LEARN SOMETHING.I'M TOP 10 IN MY 8TH GRADE.AND U CALL ME A FIFTH GRADER.U MUST B REALLY STUPID!LOL!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 11:19am


Well, try talking about something other than some cut-rate 80's band...this isn't a fan site! No one here wants to hear or read how you drool at the thought of them! It's for people to have learned and informed conversation about Rock & Roll...which kinda leaves you out! You know all your curse words...really??? The fact that you'd make a sailor blush gives me a clue (and it's really nothing to be proud of). Now, off you go...hopefully never to return...

As far as "getting my ass kicked", hasn't happened for a long time, probably won't either.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 11:47am


What language r u speaking? It doesn't matter.You're not worth it. You know rock n'roll,that makes me laugh!I've known the 80s for years! These r my faves from the 80s.BON JOVI,JOAN JETT AND THE BLACKHEARTS,SURVIVOR,QUEEN,AEROSMITH,STEPPENWOLF,JOE ESPOSITO,DOKKEN,KANSAS,SIMPLE MINDS,SCORPIONS,KARLA DEVITO,TIM CAPPELLO,WANG CHUNG,ECHO AND THE BUNNYMEN,LOU GRAMM,CYNDI LAUPER,DEF LEPPARD,DURAN DURAN,WHITESNAKE,ALICE COOPER,LED ZEPPELIN,TWISTED SISTER,STEVIE NICKS,KENNY LOGINS,GERARD MCMANN,AND MUCH MORE!So don't tell me that I don't know rock n' roll or the 80s!I LOVE THE 80s!NOT JUST ROCK ALL OF IT!THE ROCK U KNOW CAME FROM THE 80s.So STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE.

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 12:43pm


And ofcourse the beautiful 70s 2!

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 13:29pm


Hmmm....you're obviously bilingual...(limited) English and fluent profanity. It's also (still) obvious that you couldn't carry on an intelligent conversation about rock music (or anything else) to save your life! You've never made any attempt to. You have no idea what makes a band or artist great...what innovation and influence means. All you do is get on here and spout about how great Bon Jovi is, and how every other band pales in comparison, with nothing intelligent to add beyond that. You're just a loud-mouthed kid who really needs your mouth washed out with about a gallon of detergent, and quite frankly I'm bored with you, so why don't you go to another site where no one minds you spouting your mindless drivel...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 13:42pm


It's a free country.If you want me to leave,it won't happen.So why don't you leave.I'm sure other people will love your crap.I don't break,so if you think that I'm giving up just like that,you're wrong.You think you're so tough with the words you say,who cares.I love what i love, and you can go back to your own plastic world.

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 13:59pm


...whatever THAT means (my "own plastic world"???)! Anyway, you're obviously too stupid to leave, so if you're such a glutton for punishment...hang around!!!

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 14:07pm


Yeah, Francisca knows rock... the 70s and 80s. Oh man, I'm fighting the urge to laugh.

I'd give the nod to Bon Jovi myself, but Francisca, if you can't foment a more coherent argument, you're Livin' On A Prayer, you'll Always be laughed at, and though you've sworn to Never Say Goodbye and keep fighting Gitarzan, I can tell you right now, you'll go down, and not in a Blaze Of Glory.

If you'll excuse me now, I've got to perform a christening for a hell-raising little baby named Love. Someone sure gave Love a bad name.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 14:14pm


Funny,philip.How would u know that.You lost to him,Rght?I'm not chicken shit.Oh,and gitarzan,plastic means that you're concited.Look it up.And thanks for the advice phil,but I don't need it.Oh,I'm so scared!Punishment,oh,no!(TEAR)!The 70s and 80s rocked,now it's all disney shit!And emo Whiney rock!oh,boo hoo,go caught yourselves!Gitarzan,so what punishment are u going to give me? I'm so excited to know!Let me guess,you're gonna tell me names,hurt my feelings,in that case.....I'd like to see you try!LOL!Like I said I don't break.I don't cry.So forget about that.

Posted by FRANCISCA TREVINO on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 14:45pm


No rock was more "whiney" than Bon Jovi in his heyday, and most of these disney groups probably *love* him and cite him as an influence.

P.S. Is there a reason you don't space after commas and periods?

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 14:50pm


"and most of these disney groups probably *love* him and cite him as an influence"

Or them I guess, not "him".

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 14:51pm


Because that's my style. They are an influence,but disney and other emo rock bands are not good.They don't fit in with the world,sorry but they're for concited girls who still use barbies.Little girls and teen plastics.

Posted by FRANCISCA on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 15:07pm


Look,gitarzan,why in the hell are we fighting?! Nobody's going to win. I love my own music,nobody can take that away from me. You like your own music,nobody's going to take that away. I get it you don't like bon jovi,but I love bon jovi. We have our own tastes in music.Let's get over it.Let's just talk about rock n' roll. The thing that we both love.That will never die! The only reason why I got in this website was to talk about bon jovi and other hard rock/heavy metal artists.All I want to know from you is who's your fave band/solo artist? I can't believe it got this far. We're both tough.Since,we're both tough,nobody wins.So what do say?

Posted by Francisca on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 16:47pm


So what do you say?

Posted by Francisca on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 16:49pm


"concited"...is that a new word you made up? You say you're in the "top 10" in your class...out of how many, 10? Alas, still no intelligent conversation coming from you about rock music...does your ignorance have no boundaries? you're too stupid to realize you're getting schooled from all angles here...everyone thinks you're a joke! There's an old saying you need to learn;

"Keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid...instead of opening it and removing all doubt!"

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 16:50pm


I don't really have "favorite artists", but I'm aware of who really made the big impact on rock, and who were just "cultural phenomenon". There's also styles of music I like better than others...but I can find something good in just about any genre...

Does that answer your question...?

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 16:56pm


I don't care what you just said.But what I did care about was your fave whatever. Who are they?

Posted by Francisca on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 17:06pm


Since I am a guitar player, the artists I generally pay the most attention to are also players...I really don't have a favorite because the really great ones are all unique, you usually know it's them when you hear them.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 17:13pm


Concited is a word. I told you to look it up,remember? And I'm not stupid,nobody thinks that.That you made up. And I am top 10 of my 8th grade. And the joke thing was come on. Where did you even get that from? And nobody's schooling me.Only my teachers.And that's not a saying. That was only said by you. And I'm not ignorant.Anyway,what other styles of rock do you listen to?

Posted by Francisca on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 17:18pm


I'm a guitar player to? do you have your own band?

Posted by Francisca on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 17:21pm


I'm a guitar player to.Do you have a band?

Posted by Francisca on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 17:25pm


The word is "conceited"...which most players I know are, to some degree. I played in bands a few years ago, but now just play by myself or I get with people I used to be in bands with and jam occasionally. that could be anything from doing songs to "Give me some 12 bar blues in F# and let's see what happens"...

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 17:50pm


Cool.I've been trying to make a band,but there's no talent in my school! It bites! I need a lead singer,keyboard.........You know. I can't sing.Well I've never tried it,but I don't want to.I really want to make a hard rock or heavy metal band. It's hard to find talent.So how's your rock life?

Posted by Francisca on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 18:00pm


I never stop learning or finding stuff new to enjoy. If you really want to be in a band, just play your tail off and don't worry about forming a band...they'll find you.

Posted by Gitarzan on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 19:32pm


Thanks.So, what do you think of the 80s? Have you heard of Joan jett and the blackhearts?

Posted by Francisca on Sunday, 05.30.10 @ 20:00pm


"BON JOVI,JOAN JETT AND THE BLACKHEARTS,SURVIVOR,QUEEN,AEROSMITH,STEPPENWOLF,JOE ESPOSITO,DOKKEN,KANSAS,SIMPLE MINDS,SCORPIONS,KARLA DEVITO,TIM CAPPELLO,WANG CHUNG,ECHO AND THE BUNNYMEN,LOU GRAMM,CYNDI LAUPER,DEF LEPPARD,DURAN DURAN,WHITESNAKE,ALICE COOPER,LED ZEPPELIN,TWISTED SISTER,STEVIE NICKS,KENNY LOGINS,GERARD MCMANN,AND MUCH MORE"

Well... that got out of hand quickly. You know Echo and the Bunnymen who are VERY obscure, so I've been one-upped there (only people who know way more than me like Liam and William and Kit discover those kinds of bands.) If you like JJ & the Blackhearts try the Runaways, Joan Jett's first band. Alas, a female version of Aerosmith or the Stones was not something the US was prepared for. Because Kim Fowley had so much control they're looked at these days as the Spice Girls with instruments and are still struggling with being respected, though they actually did some solid original stuff themselves. They opened for Rush back in the day... not quite as odd as the AC/DC, KISS and Rush bill that happened back in the 70's but still.

Posted by Sam on Monday, 05.31.10 @ 19:21pm


Actually, songs like "Lips Like Sugar" and "Killing Moon", amongst others by Echo & the Bunnymen got a bit of airplay around here in the mid 80's...

Posted by Gitarzan on Monday, 05.31.10 @ 19:37pm


I know the runaways.They just did an interview. They did it because of corey haim(LOVED HIS MOVIES TO DEATH!).They said that corey (who died of drug over dose)should have asked for help.They were going through that themselves.Although,they asked for help(smart).Alice cooper is miss- understood.Just because he wasn't liked in the 70s(most of the time)doesn't make him a bad person.He was still loved alot. School's out was his biggest hit!Joan jett (you're right,was not liked at all)but by the record companys not by the people. Then later when she bacame a huge hit,they wanted her,makes me so mad! They don't know talent! I've heard so many stuff about her.Mostly these quotes,"She's the queen of rock."I'm not a fan of ACDC at all.And lips like sugar(you're right gitarzan)it did get alot of fame!And so did killing the moon.

Posted by Francisca on Tuesday, 06.1.10 @ 16:54pm


That's true, she was rejected by 20 labels, so Blackheart Records was started... the rest is history. There are two Alice Coopers: One is the original and very influential band often credited with starting shock rock. Though they didn't, they did bring to a whole new audience. The other is Alice sobering up after the break-up and coming back on his own.

I know Echo and The Bunnymen are one of those cult-favorite post-punk bands (I'm actually listening to The Cult right now), so I'll check them out tomorrow or Friday when I'm not so busy.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 06.2.10 @ 19:59pm


I really dislike kristen stewart! In the movie runaways she plays joan jett. She almost looks just like her,but not in her spirit! She makes me laugh so hard,because she's trying to be something that she's not! Those movies (twilight saga)make me vomit,laugh of how stupid it is,romance is to desperate for attention,no action,and needs desperately to be rewritten! Don't get me wrong,romance is cool,but this is too,too much! What's up with that! For those die hard fans,I'm so sorry for you all.You need help!

Posted by Francisca on Thursday, 06.3.10 @ 17:10pm


I have to run out right now but I'll adress that bone of contention tomorrow.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 06.3.10 @ 18:21pm


Right, so as promised... I will see the movie when it comes out on DVD, but it's gotten good reviews so far... and Dakota Fanning as Cherie Currie is getting good reviews as well. The more that can be done to get the band name out there the better if you ask me.

NP: ELP, "From the Beginning" Coming up: Sweet, "Love Is Like Oxygen"

Posted by Sam on Friday, 06.4.10 @ 21:10pm


I will check out those movies. I also need to re-focus myself on True Blood as I've lost touch with it. I'll get on that soon. I suppose it's just something that appeals to the teen audience. Let them be, and eventually they may find that stuff, just as 15-year olds new to horror movies will watch "Disturbia" and then find their way to "Halloween" (the Rob Zombie version is the one I'm talking about.) I'd love to make space in my house for both Anna Paquin and Kristen Stewart to move in (if you know what I mean), but it would hurt me dearly to steal from my fellow Englishmen.

Posted by Sam on Sunday, 06.6.10 @ 15:37pm


If one is objective with Influence and Innovation then there is no way Bon Jovi should be inducted.

That being said whether anybody likes it or not they're going in. I mean just look at the fine print, they haven't even been eligible for 2 years and they've already been considered. The committee love to induct big name bands like RHCP, Guns n Roses or Bon Jovi, names that will generate media coverage, or as mrxyz would brilliantly say "Hollywood hype."

Whatever, I say THANK GOD for Rock Hall Revisited.


Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 07.2.10 @ 08:01am


Thank you Tahvo for some sanity. You make an excellent point, except you forgot about Perpetuation which BJ don't have. Yes, they were a good band and popular, but then so are lots of other bands. I'll grant you, it's phenomenal how they've managed to keep their success going for 26 years... very good businessmen. However, that's where it ends. Repeated for Truth:

-Innovation: Zero
-Influence: Minimal
-Perpetuation: Let me reiterate Dameon's post, as he said it better than I ever could

To reiterate: By the time "Runaway" was released, Scorpions, Def Leppard, Van Halen, Quiet Riot (who would soon burn out) and KISS were all packing stadiums (BJ even opened for KISS, Scorpions and Ratt, who already had a huge hit with "Round and Round" and a commercially succesful first album.) Ozzy was going pop-metal, and was selling out arenas and was well received by Hard Rock and Metal critics. Motley Crue opened for him in 1984 with 2 well-received albums (by die-hard rock critics) under their belt, and that opening slot put the Crue into the national conscience, while BJ was still an opening act in '85 (BJ were even signed by the Crue's management, probably about the time "Shout at the Devil" came out.) Dokken came first as well, so that scene was already thriving by the time Bon Jovi came along, so they cannot be credited with doing much for the scene. In fact, many fans of that scene now look negatively upon BJ, as they feel they were partially responsible for the scene losing it's edge. It's true they were responsible for the success of Skid Row and Cinderella, two very good bands, but how different would things have really been without those bands?

So no they shouldn't be inducted based on the criteria. Will they be inducted? I wouldn't be surprised if they were. For one thing, Jon's friends with Wenner. Plus, even a nomination for them would be a huge publicity boost for the Hall (an induction even more so; since they're still so popular, their induction would draw a bigger crowd than more worthy bands. Sad, but that's how it is.) Not to mention they are the kind of band the Hall wouldn't have a problem with inducting; long career, inoffensive, unlikely to cause problems or misbehave (ala the Sex Pistols.) So to reiterate: I don't think they should be, but I'd guess they will eventually. Honestly, the Hall's turning into such a joke that it wouldn't bother me if they were inducted. If you still care about the criteria for the 2008 class, Anthrax, Slayer, Stevie Ray Vaughan, The Smiths and Pantera could use some support. Stay tuned.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 07.2.10 @ 13:14pm


Sam, Since you are new - you could use better manners...

dameon, There is no hope for you because apparently you don't have an original thought - you must play off the comments of others. I realize you won't respond when there are better things to do than read dumb comments.

Posted by mary on Monday, 07.5.10 @ 22:23pm


I Vote no. Everything I've heard from them I've hated.

Posted by Zach on Tuesday, 07.6.10 @ 00:43am


I know when to be PC, Mary. Sorry if I offended anyone (well, most of the time I'm sorry about it), but some comments just rub me the wrong way. Dameon's not really around anymore, but I welcome feedback to what I write.

Posted by Sam on Tuesday, 07.6.10 @ 12:57pm


i would love for bon jovi to get in but i know it will be for the wrong reasons because the truth be told jovi fans,the hall of fame will only induct them because of all the money they will get from the band,so i rather bon jovi never get in at all then them getting in just to boost up that piece of shit hall of fame.

Posted by icebox on Thursday, 07.8.10 @ 20:20pm


You know, it's entirely possible that the Committee thinks they're not worthy (though you never know since Wenner's friends with Jon), and could induct them anyhow because it would be a huge publicity boost. Good thinking dude.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 07.9.10 @ 16:27pm


Nope pop rock rubbish all the songs sound the same !

Posted by Anna-Lee on Saturday, 07.10.10 @ 14:02pm


I feel Bon Jovi should and eventually will be inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am bias, as I am a devoted fan. I have almost all their albums/CDs and have attended at least one show during most of their tours. I also read many articles written about the band. I hope the voters are truly qualified and not bias. If so, I believe Bon Jovi will be inducted as a truly deserving band. Bon Jovi trashers most likely are not familiar with most of the bands accomplishments. Thank goodness they are not voters.

Posted by justolder56 on Sunday, 07.18.10 @ 18:50pm


I believe those "trashers" are aware of their accomplishments, but recognize that they just don't cut it as far as the Hall's inducted. I like some of Bon Jovi's stuff, but I don't think they should get in. I've already explained why I don't think they're important enough, and the claim that they invented the unplugged is the most misinformed thing thrown around: "And then someone said, 'Hey, let's unplug.' Thanks Tesla!" (Thanks for your help Dee Snider.) Nonetheless, as someone else said, it's a rare and commendable accomplishment to still be packing stadiums and still getting #1's 20 years after the peak of your popularity, and they're in rarified air (and some very good company) in that regard. They've certainly done well to keep up with the trends. So, I wouldn't put them among the all-time greats (and definitely not among the musical A-listers of the 80's and 90's, and probably not among the musical A-listers of the 2000's, though all of that's partially subjective), but they're popular enough that they'll probably get in (though in warning to the BJ faithful, it could take awhile to see your dreams fulfilled. Perhaps this year; some of the newly eligibles from this year are very deserving, but in a rare feat none of them are locks.)

Posted by Sam on Monday, 07.19.10 @ 20:26pm


I agree with Sam for the most part..

Posted by mrxyzomg & mrxyz on Monday, 07.19.10 @ 20:31pm


They Will Get in sooner or later. induct them already!

Posted by James on Wednesday, 07.21.10 @ 17:26pm


I reckon they will get in they don't deserve it but they will. These guys only really got popular because of the fan girls liking his looks nothing to do with the music IMO

Posted by RockinJoe on Wednesday, 07.28.10 @ 05:35am


I still cannot believe that Bon Jovi have not been inducted. I think the lack of equality in many of the inductions definitely calls for a revisit of the nomination process!

Posted by MJ on Friday, 07.30.10 @ 11:27am


Actually, Little Steven is a big supporter of BJ. I think a revisit is required but for other reasons (an ignorance of the third wave of punk/first wave hardcore, post-punk, metal and a bias towards prog.) They are ignoring most of pop-metal, but BJ is way back in line as far as that's concerned.

Posted by Sam on Friday, 07.30.10 @ 15:08pm


BJ is way back in line as far as that's concerned.sam
The sad thing about it as much as i don't want bon jovi to get in(coming from a bon jovi fan)bon jovi has the best shot out of all the pop metal(hair bands)to get in.they will probably be the only one out of the genre to get in.
i am thinking, no i am betting, bon jovi gets in 2012 with GNR.Think of all the money and publicy the hall will get

Posted by icebox on Tuesday, 08.3.10 @ 21:02pm


Or they could get in this year, which is their best shot (and Def Leppard's best shot, as the Committee could give them a second look now that KISS has received a nomination.) After this year it'll be much tougher for them. The Hall will receive plenty of money this year by inducting the Chili Peppers, more so next year by inducting GNR (and possibly some whenever they induct Soundgarden), more so in 2013 from the publicity of inducting Nirvana (can you imagine how much more money it would be if they were still around and agreed to perform?), and even more in 2014 from inducting Green Day (Armstrong inducted The Stooges last year, so I'm sure they'll go.) It's possible KISS and Def Leppard could get in as well as BJ (if BJ get in, which isn't a guarantee.)

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 08.4.10 @ 17:48pm


True,the band should just accept the fact they will never get into the RnR hall of fame,which is ok.
BTW can u help me with this question is hall nominating committee is a international panal?

Posted by icebox on Wednesday, 08.4.10 @ 20:48pm


I think they have a better chance than you're letting on. Jon is friends with Jann Wenner, who is pretty much in charge of the process (yes, he's the Rolling Stone founder), and the band is friendly with Little Steven, who is on the nominating committee. They've been seriously considered already, and since they're a big name, it's not absurd to think they'd make it onto the ballot (if they can get enough votes.) To see the Committee members: http://www.futurerocklegends.com/Nominating_Committee.php

Posted by Sam on Friday, 08.6.10 @ 17:39pm


thanks sam,but i never knew jann and jon are friends because rolling stones mag.stills hates this band,they can't even give bon jovi a proper concert review let lone a CD review.steve known jon since his days in atlantic city express days

Posted by icebox on Tuesday, 08.10.10 @ 14:05pm


i dont understsnd why bon jovi havent been inducted. they have sold 130 million world wide and they still rocking thier new album The CIRCLE is great

Posted by abhi on Wednesday, 08.11.10 @ 06:05am


abhi, a popular misconception is tat commercial success is an important part of HOF consideration- it isn't. Bon Jovi ,on the whole, is kinda light- so I definitely can see why the HOF didn't rush to induct the band upon its eligibility a couple of years back.

The commercial-success-as-important-criteria is as popular a misconception as rock music being theo only genre of music considered for the HOF. :-)

Posted by JR on Wednesday, 08.11.10 @ 06:36am


I don't think Wenner can control what the writers think, icebox, as he's just the publisher and the editor; he only writes occasionally. Since Rolling Stone is big on free speech and all that, it would be hypocritical of him to censor a review just because he didn't agree with it (on the other hand, I hope the guy who reviewed the last BJ album was fired, because his reviews are short and lack real substance.) Yes, I'm aware that Jon and Steve go way back, dating back to when Jon was writing demos and working at the Power Station studio. Oh, and JR: Truth well spoken :)

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 08.11.10 @ 20:01pm


Well said RockinJoe I agree completely I believe that their famdom is based mainly on looks !

Posted by Anna-Lee on Friday, 09.10.10 @ 14:42pm


Jethro Tull were actually the first band to perform on MTV acoustically in 1987, but they didnt really make people take notice of the potential of an acoustic concert like Bon Jovi did.

While Tesla's Five Man Acoustical Jam gets the credit for "starting" the Unplugged craze of the 90s, but Bon Jovi's acoustic appearance at the '89 VMAS preceded them by about a year, and most likely put the acoustic idea in MTV's head,so I'd consider them to be the beginning of Unplugged.

Posted by Jimbo on Tuesday, 09.14.10 @ 17:48pm


Talented songwriters, gifted musicians. Maybe if they were ugly they'd have more street-cred. It doesn't matter, they should get in. Very few bands endure for 25 years and they have evolved with the times and continue to show the world some great music. How many of today's 'artists' (because few are actually musicians) do you think will be around come 2030? Very few, I'd wager.

Posted by carolina on Monday, 09.20.10 @ 07:30am


Hell No!

Posted by DDD on Friday, 09.24.10 @ 07:10am


bon jovi has just been nominated!!!!

Posted by sandy on Tuesday, 09.28.10 @ 08:37am


bon jovi has just been nominated!!!!

Posted by sandy on Tuesday, 09.28.10 @ 08:37am


Are you kidding me, Bon Jovi should have been inducted a long time ago. Bon Jovi rocks... No questions asked they must be inducted. I went to their concert this past summer, amazing! They deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, they have inspired me. They are why I started with music. Excellent band!

Posted by Tjp on Tuesday, 09.28.10 @ 14:31pm


Anyone else really disgusted about Bon Jovi being nominated?

Posted by Ken on Wednesday, 09.29.10 @ 19:13pm


Anyone else really disgusted about Bon Jovi being nominated?

Posted by Ken on Wednesday, 09.29.10 @ 19:13pm

I'm more apathetic about it that anything. It's just a really bland, safe pick. There are far better 80s chices that have been waiting longer, so I guess I'm a bit annoyed to see them jump the line, but I wouldn't have a huge problem with them getting in 5-10 years from now.

I also don't take for granted that they're a slam dunk this year. I think that there are probably an awful lot of people on the voting committee whose feelings range somewhere between yours and mine.

Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 09.29.10 @ 19:27pm


"No questions asked they must be inducted."

I'm going to ask you to defend that statement and give it some substance.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 09.30.10 @ 13:27pm


From Rock Hall

Hard-working musicians and prolific songwriters from blue-collar backgrounds in New Jersey, Jon Bon Jovi, Richie Sambora, David Bryan, Tico Torres and Alec John Such created a dedicated global following that spans every continent. Along the way, they have carved out a place on the charts with their most familiar songs – “You Give Love a Bad Name,” “Livin’ on a Prayer,” “Bad Medicine” and “I’ll Be There for You” in the 80s; “Blaze of Glory,” “Bed of Roses” and “Always” in the ’90s; “It’s My Life,” “Have A Nice Day,” the Grammy-winning “Who Says You Can’t Go Home” and “We Weren’t Born to Follow” in the 2000s. Beyond the numbers – over 120 million albums sold (more than 34 platinum titles cumulative in the U.S. alone), more than 2,600 concerts performed in over 50 countries for more than 34 million fans, including The Lost Highway World Tour, ranked as 2008’s #1 top-selling tour, and 2010’s 30-country, 135-show The Circle World Tour – there is also Bon Jovi’s enormous influence on innumerable young bands seeking to follow in their footsteps. Bon Jovi steadfastly follows their own instincts, ignoring obvious trends and providing a model for other bands and musicians just starting out on their careers.

From Digital Dream Door

Bon Jovi

Each decade has a style that is wildly popular and helps define the times, yet which is seen by many critics as excessive in its image and shallow in its content. In the 1980's that style was hair metal, a form of rock that took what had been a largely niche facet of rock that appealed outside the mainstream singles oriented audience and put a sheen on it that got it massive airplay. Bon Jovi typified this approach, with their succession of power ballads and dramatic working class anthems that made them staples of Top Forty radio. For the latter half of the 80's, when hair metal was at its zenith, few artists were as successful as Bon Jovi, who scored five #1 hits and multiple platinum albums while selling out arenas regularly. Yet as hair metal's dominance dissipated by the early 90's with the advent of harder edged speed metal, gangsta rap and alternative, Bon Jovi expanded their approach and gained more critical respect, even as their popularity fell off among listeners. It would've been hard to fathom that they'd ever have the staying power to be given a nomination, let alone the respect of those who decide such things, but their work has proven to not be reliant on short-lived stylistic trends and so their appearance on the ballot is not as surprising as it once would've seemed.

Qualifications: 7 - Solid Choice

Posted by Roy on Friday, 10.1.10 @ 21:36pm


BON JOVI will join ABBA as the second group from Rolling Stone Magazine's Guilty Pleasures List to be inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

1. Rush
2. E.L.O.
3. Journey
4. ABBA
5. Chicago
6. Boston
7. Foreigner
8. Bread
9. Bon Jovi
10. New Edition
11. The Monkees
12. Motley Crue
13. STYX
14. Eddie Money
15. Simply Red
16. Kelly Clarkson
17. America
18. Wham
19. R.E.O. Speedwagon
20. Poison
21. Lionel Richie
22. Kansas
23. Air Supply
24. Hall & Oates
25. Britney Spears

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.4.10 @ 19:39pm


BON JOVI will join ABBA as the second group from Rolling Stone Magazine's Guilty Pleasures List to be inducted into The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 10.4.10 @ 19:39pm

what's next, wham and air supply?

Posted by akeem on Monday, 10.4.10 @ 22:38pm


Terrible, terrible music written by egually inadequate musicians. Completely lame. Bon Jovi is the most vile, ignorant and repetious hybrid of hair metal and Bruce Springsteen (the former being 'good' for about 5 minutes, the latter definitely deserving of induction).

Posted by michael on Sunday, 10.10.10 @ 19:28pm


This is for Matt, that made the comment that Jon getting the role as a vampire and sucking.... what in the hell does his acting have to do with the groups talent for being the musicians that they are? Hmmmm... nothing!! And when your dad asks you for a BJ CD and you laugh in his face and then kick him in the face? I feel sorry for you, and you didn't even get it for him. That is so childish and dis respectfull it's sick. You may not like them but they definatley deserve it after all these yrs, they just keep coming with hits and and selling out concerts and they do it there way not how anyone else wants them to do it. That is commendible!! So Matt.. Grow up!! Bon Jovi rocks and always will!! Good luck guys!!

Posted by Kristine on Tuesday, 10.12.10 @ 08:56am


Bon Jovi deserves to get in...eventually. Too soon now, let Journey--and maybe Def Leppard--in before, both of which clearly influenced Jon and the boys.

Posted by Joe on Thursday, 11.4.10 @ 19:14pm


"Bon Jovi considers his peers to be 'Bob Dylan, Jimmy Page, Bruce Springsteen, Bono' http://bit.ly/cGJG03"

Wow... what an ego. He's nowhere close to any of them. Wake up and smell the coffee Jon.

Posted by Chalkie on Monday, 11.8.10 @ 17:07pm


Rolling stone is so full of shit. Who do they think they are, releasing a "guilty pleasures" list?

1. Rush... not my cup of tea but a good enough 2nd-wave prog band
2. E.L.O... excellent Beatles-esque, proggish pop/rock
4. ABBA... catchy and listenable pure dance-pop.
5. Chicago... at least EARLY Chicago wasn't bad at all
11. The Monkees... sure they didn't write or play their own music, but they didn't claim to be brilliant songwriters and/or musicians.
15. Simply Red... Mick Hucknall's a wanker but I actually have no problem with this group
24. Hall & Oates... top shelf blue-eyed soul/pop

Posted by Chalkie on Tuesday, 11.9.10 @ 15:23pm


"1. Rush... not my cup of tea but a good enough 2nd-wave prog band"

3rd-wave in my opinion (see the Yes page for more.) I do think they should be in the Hall.

"15. Simply Red... Mick Hucknall's a wanker"

Well he could be because he donates to Labour but he donated to the Australian bushfires, so who knows? Picture Book is an excellent album.

As far as The Monkees go, many people WISH they'd written "Daily Nightly".

"Wow... what an ego. He's nowhere close to any of them. Wake up and smell the coffee Jon."

Ummm... yeah.

Posted by Sam on Wednesday, 11.10.10 @ 13:35pm


Bon Jovi should be in the "RRHOF"; Richie and David Bryan are amazing talented musician's and vocalists. Richie and Jon are all ready in the Song Writer's Hall of Fame and David Bryan composed a Tony Award winning musical. With others that I see in the Hall; if Bon Jovi doesn't get in it would be a shame. They are the music of a generation like them or not (that is personal) the fans that are still buying tickets and CD's speak for the love the the US has for the boys from New Jersey.


Posted by CJay on Saturday, 11.13.10 @ 14:44pm


You have to keep in mind that the Hall of Fame recognizes achievement, not opinion or taste. Achievement in music can come from various places but usually starts with widespread success. No one can deny that Bon Jovi has had 25 years of widespread success. They've sold over 100 million albums. The Hall of Fame's purpose is to recognize artists who've left a profound impact on the course of rock 'n' roll itself. Bon Jovi fits the bill.

Posted by Ashley on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 12:28pm


Why does the Rock Hall like Bon Jovi but not Journey?

Posted by Qaz on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 16:13pm


Because Jann Wenner is friends with Bon Jovi and Steve Perry isn't.

Posted by Jim on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 16:19pm


What do Bon Jovi and Three Dog Night have in common? They both had songs with the same titles as Christmas carols. Bon Jovi had a song called "Silent Night" on their album 7800 Fahrenheit, while Three Dog Night had their biggest hit with "Joy to the World."

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Wednesday, 11.17.10 @ 22:27pm


Even if it doesn´t matter how many millions of albums they sold, or hits they
have, or number one selling tours, or sold out shows... etc., or what good guys they are, giving of their time, work and money trying to make life a little bit better for people not so talented and fortunate as they are; you surely can count the millions of people worldwide who find encouragement and inspiration in their music. And THAT´s a huge
influence. In a Jovi show, you can see teenagers with their parents and grandparents... three generations, and in a little while you´ll see four! How many bands can get that? Only the really big ones, the ones who make a difference in people´s lives. They are all amazing musicians, I can´t figure out why they are the most hated by critics while being the most loved by people.
If there is such a thing as a "hall of fame", of course they deserve to be in there. By the way, their Greatest Hits is Nº 1 in european charts and other countries for second consecutive week

Posted by Lu on Sunday, 11.21.10 @ 14:24pm


But what you're forgetting, Lu, is that Bon Jovi sucks.

Posted by Chalkie on Sunday, 11.21.10 @ 16:05pm


CHalkie probably U. Bon Jovi are one of the best rock band in the world. Like Stones they in 3 years twice has the best tour in the world. This band is legen -wait for it- dary!!

Posted by KondZik on Saturday, 12.11.10 @ 16:57pm


Bon jovi is shitty hair - wait for it - Metal.

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 01.2.11 @ 13:25pm


"Rolling stone is so full of shit. Who do they think they are, releasing a "guilty pleasures" list?" - Chalkie

I completely agree

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Wednesday, 01.12.11 @ 06:21am


I can't believe they are not already in it!!

Posted by Mirror on Sunday, 01.23.11 @ 12:15pm


Over Jann Wenner's dead body do Bon Jovi get in. And mine. I won't allow it. It's not happening. A snowball's chance in hell.

Posted by Matt on Thursday, 01.27.11 @ 15:30pm


Matt, Jann's the reason they were on the ballot this past year.

Posted by Philip on Thursday, 01.27.11 @ 16:19pm


bon jovi deserved well,they are phenomenal band. in terms record sell out they are good, most of the album hit maker on the market, then on touring they became as a no.1 hit maker on all tour among other artist in the world, they have more no.1 chart in different countries. and many huge fans have seen live on tour. if an artist can having a tour on 50 countries i will say have a nice day coz only few artist can make this kind of act such a bon jovi. coz bon jovi influence all masses of people even little kids know the song of bon jovi. whether you are politician, artist,carpenter, businessman, girl or boy, from bad boys to good boy, kids or old man love BON JOVI.

Posted by engilbert atay on Tuesday, 02.8.11 @ 02:20am


Inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2009.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02.8.11 @ 06:25am


Jon Bon Jovi is taking Steve Jobs down in a blaze of glory. During a recent interview with the Sunday Times Magazine, the singer claimed that the Apple CEO is "personally responsible for killing the music business." Bon Jovi, whose band earned more money than any touring outfit last year, went on to explain that digital consumers are missing out on the experience of entering a store, buying a physical product, and spending time with the liner notes and cover art.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 03.15.11 @ 22:05pm


If the music business is dead (unlikely considering the mass of corporate pop crap out there; more likely dying), then we're all the better for it. No more shoving record company-created artists down our throat. No more greedy companies screwing over artists. I do agree with him about the physical product, but if that's the only price to be paid for doing things properly and fairly then I'll take it. Artists can make plenty of money from touring anyway.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.17.11 @ 10:27am


I do agree with him about the physical product, but if that's the only price to be paid for doing things properly and fairly then I'll take it. Artists can make plenty of money from touring anyway.

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 03.17.11 @ 10:27am


--------------------------------------------------
Yeah, but it's a terrible price to pay. Perhaps the worst of all.

The great thing about going into a record store was that all around you were like-minded peers. Rock & roll, especially young rock & roll, needs a human connection, not a bunch of isolated folks sitting behind their computers downloading 99 cent singles. It's the same thing w/Radio. Losing radio was terrible. Radio, record stores, concerts, are all communal; when everything's aligned right, they can help spread a certain kind of energy & make it last almost in perpetuity.

There's nothing like hearing a great song on the radio & knowing that millions of others have heard it. Then buying a physical album at a store, seeing people you don't even know, but you know they're thinking just like you, & then seeing this same group multiplied by 20,000 or so at a concert.

I might almost trade a little extra record company power back if I could see the universe I described come back. The question is how to get it back w/out sacrificing too much.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 03.17.11 @ 17:40pm


Jeez, reading through this entire thread makes my brain hurt. Bon Jovi do deserve it, but their fanbase is doing 0 favors for them with their arguments. As someone who does not consider himself a "fanatic", I'll try and explain what these people mean as intelligently as possible, and discredit the many false claims that have been made.

First off:

- BJ did not invent country rock. Look about 40 years earlier with Gram Parsons.

-BJ aren't innovative, unless you consider mixing Springsteen's working class sheen with pop metal hooks innovative.

-If one looks at said formula, it can be said that Slippery When Wet did help open up pop-metal to a working class audience that may have been turned off by the excesses of earlier pop metal bands.

-Through their performance in the 1989 VMAS, they put the idea in MTV's head of reworking classic hits in acoustic form, later known as MTV Unplugged. And yes, it was the bands idea to perform acoustically.

With that being said, is there not a place in the HOF for the consistent hit-makers? When looking at the criteria, BJ strike out on Innovation and their batting average is bad on influence, but I'll be damned if they haven't been a consistent home run hitter on the perpetuation of rock and roll. I think it says something that a band thats nearly 30 years old and that has been typecast as a guilty pleasure for the longest time has also been one of the few bands never to be taken out by a musical wave and headlined the top grossing tour of last year. The induction of artists like the Lovin Spoonful and Billy Joel have proven that there is a place for clean pop rock in the hall. They may not make it into the I & I hall but the word fame is in the title and I think anyone would have a hard time proving they haven't achieved that.


Posted by Jim on Thursday, 03.31.11 @ 00:20am


lol I just looked at my failed baseball analogy, (Having a bad batting average and being a home run hitter, hah!) disregard that, I meant that their influence is weak.

Posted by Jim on Thursday, 03.31.11 @ 00:24am


"'and in a darkened underpass i thought "my god, my chance has comme at last"/but then a strange fear gripped me and i just couldnt ask' There is a Light that never goes out - The Smiths" - Liam

Oh yes... I'm actually not a huge Smiths fan but I love that song... as usual I don't know what Morrissey's writing about but it still sounds gorgeous, as does the music.

Jim: a couple of points.

1. Unplugged: Well, possibly, but I believe Tesla did an Unplugged album first (see the VH1 documentary Heavy: The Story Of Metal where Dee Snider blames them for the unplugged power ballads phenomenon).

2. Perpetuation. By definition, it means: per·pet·u·at·ed, per·pet·u·at·ing, per·pet·u·ates
1. To cause to continue indefinitely; make perpetual.
2. To prolong the existence of; cause to be remembered.

When it comes to pop-metal/hair metal, it seems unlikely that they can be credited with doing much for it. I found a comment about this somewhere in the thread:

"Now on this subject, there seems to be varying opinions on the subject. Runaway was released in 1984. By that time Def Leppard had already released 3 albums with Pyromania completely dominating the growing scene, Motley Crue had released two (I believe), Quiet Riot's album had already gone #1, Ratt's 'Round and Round' was heard every 30 minutes and of course Van Halen's '1984' ruled the radio. So as you can see, it is highly unlikely that BJ can be credited with perpetuating the scene. Let's remember, Def Leppard was getting radio play before MTV aired and had already toured the States opening for AC/DC and Billy Squier. And of course, on the harder side, you have Judas Priest and Iron Maiden."

However, as to your point of making it more accessible... Def Leppard were fairly accessible and Motley became more pop with Theatre Of Pain, but by being quite clean-cut and even more pop BJ may have made it more accessible, for better or worse. Cause it to continue indefinitely no, but it's possible they did help it to be remembered, as Slippery When Wet and Hysteria were the two best-selling albums of the movement unless you count Appetite For Destruction.

3. I still think that sales are at best the third or fourth most important criteria, but continuing to sell out stadiums and still having huge tours and chart-topping albums long after your original heyday has mostly only been done by the all-time greats (calm down people, I'm not putting BJ in that category). It's not an easy-feat that they've done it, and it can't just be because of lonely teenage girls or housewives; surely there must be something more substantial to it than that.

4. Yes they have recorded some solid stuff, and have some songs that will still be industry standards for quite some time. Plus the Hall hasn't always just looked at the I&I with their inductees, though I'm not necessarily excusing that.

I could go either way on this one but they'll be inducted regardless, and I don't think I'll lose too much sleep over it if/when they are. In fact, I think they could get it this year, as it's the 25th anniversary of Slippery When Wet; agree or disagree?

Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04.7.11 @ 11:18am


"In fact, I think they could get it this year, as it's the 25th anniversary of Slippery When Wet; agree or disagree?"

They would benefit for that, as would The Beastie Boys with License to Ill.

"1. Unplugged: Well, possibly, but I believe Tesla did an Unplugged album first (see the VH1 documentary Heavy: The Story Of Metal where Dee Snider blames them for the unplugged power ballads phenomenon)."

That was released a year after. Not to get all nitpicky with the dates. I'm a big Tesla fan though.

"However, as to your point of making it more accessible... Def Leppard were fairly accessible and Motley became more pop with Theatre Of Pain, but by being quite clean-cut and even more pop BJ may have made it more accessible, for better or worse. Cause it to continue indefinitely no, but it's possible they did help it to be remembered, as Slippery When Wet and Hysteria were the two best-selling albums of the movement unless you count Appetite For Destruction."

Most of that is true, but you have to consider the date here, it was 1986: Def Leppard had been out of the spotlight for sometime due to Rick Allens injury/the making of Hysteria, and Motley weren't exactly the band the industry wanted to lead the hair metal charge. (The most notable incident of this was when Billboard denied Girls, Girls, Girls the number one spot on the albums chart and let Whitney Houston continue her reign.) Bon Jovi came in with SWW and allowed for a more clean-cut angle on pop-metal. Hair metal existed before them, but it was fighting New Wave
and the last remnants of AOR for the mainstream. After the SWW/Hysteria/Appetite combo Hair metal began a path of dominance that lasted till 1991, and had firmly established itself as THE mainstream genre of rock and roll. Thats what I meant by BJ helping open up pop-metal to a wider audience.

Posted by Jim on Thursday, 06.9.11 @ 21:06pm


Bon Jovi NEEDS to be added!

Posted by Ginny on Wednesday, 09.28.11 @ 00:28am


Bon jovi has giving us 30 years of music, they are the most loved by people all around the world, sold out concerts, they give back, they deserve to be in the hall of rock and roll; like what more do they want, the band has giving us the joy and pleasure of there music, They are loved by young and old,they are so dedicated to there music but to the fans, Jon and the band help people with housing, the soul foundation, they gave when New orlands was hit with hurricain. As a loyal fan, and the fact is they have work so hard, they have sold 125 million copies of there music. So as a loyal fan Jon Bon jovi should be added to the hall of fame.

Posted by storm on Sunday, 10.16.11 @ 00:18am


"They were not the first to play acoustic but Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora's acoustic performance on the 89 MTV Awards changed TV and music."

Maybe TV, but didn't Springsteen do this with a lot more artistic and critical merit back in 1982? Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but didn't the Nebraska album hit the Top 3? That was groundbreaking.

Neil Young had been doing it since 1970, so what makes Bon Jovi's acoustic set in 1989 so unique? It wasn't innovative.

Posted by Tommy on Wednesday, 12.28.11 @ 15:12pm


"I thought about this in regards to the notions of innovation & influence. You can say he swiped from Springsteen, Seger, Mellencamp, etc., but my question is, just how innovative were those guys, from the standpoint of the Rock Hall's perspective?"

Springsteen's a no brainer. Still the only artist to be featured on the covers of both Time and Newsweek at the same time, and Born to Run is a consensus pick as one of the greatest albums in the history of RnR. The lyrics to the song are in the National Archives.

Influential- yes.

Innovative- yes. Nebraska was an all acoustic album recorded on a 4 track tape recorder in his bedroom. Streets of Philadelphia- A rock star of his stature writing from the point of view of a gay AIDS patient during the height of AIDS phobia... all to a synthesized loop? Check.

Uber-stardom- yes.

Seger, to a lesser extent, matches the criterium as well, without the innovation, but I have no qualms about Seger, as he is a pretty massive influence on a lot of the Alt.Country movement.

Mellencamp is what people try to label Springsteen as- the working class stiff made good. Whereas Bruce was a poet, Mellencamp was more of putting the thoughts of the common man down and relating to the everyday downtrodden.

Oh by the way, Mellencamp was releasing rock/country albums when Bon Jovi was still wearing spandex and hairspray. BJ and the crew actually sound like they've been influenced a lot by Johnny Cougar in the recent rock/country persona since "It's My Life."

Mellencamp also released an acoustic album of his own material long before "This Left Feels Right."

Posted by Tommy on Wednesday, 12.28.11 @ 16:11pm


Bon Jovi did help bring really good looking ladies to the rock clubs in larger numbers, as did Poison and a few other of the pretty boy bands. That is about it as far as I see it.

Game chagers in the 80's in the genre of Hard Rock: (Metallica and GnR' are both in now)

Def Leppard - Pyromania brought Hard Rock back to FM radio and opened the MTV doors wide for Hard Rock bands. Not to mention that their Hard Rock/Pop hybrid really changed the thought process for many bands.

Motley Crue - they along with a couple of others really jumped started the LA Scene which Van Halen kicked back into gear a few years earlier.

Megadeth - To me, they are just as important as Metallica

Although Iron Maiden got their start in the late 70's, I am adding them as well to this list. Bruce joined in the 80's and changed the game for them.

If you were to take Bon Jovi, Warrant and many other big selling bands out of the 80's altogether, I don't think the decade changes all that much musically.

Take the bands I just mentioned out of the game and the decade is completely different.



Posted by Dameon on Thursday, 12.29.11 @ 13:09pm


Throw Slayer, Anthrax and Motorhead into the mix and Dameon has it completely right. Perhaps Septultura as well. I'd throw Soundgarden in there as well but their peak was in the 90's so...

Posted by Sam on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 18:03pm


I agree with both of you. I've never been enthusiastic about Motley Crue, but I'll give 'em credit.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Friday, 12.30.11 @ 18:10pm


They've influenced so many bands. Like it or not, today's pop rock, hard rock, and even country music scenes were massively influenced by Bon Jovi. Countless bands have proudly listed Bon Jovi as one of their main influences. You want examples? Nickelback, Daughtry, Train, The Goo-Goo Dolls, Shinedown, Every Avenue, My Chemical Romance, Kid Rock, The All-American Rejects, Hinder, All Time Low, Big & Rich, OneRepublic, and many, many others. It doesn't matter what you think of these bands, the fact is, they ARE the current music scene, and they WERE influenced by Bon Jovi.

I find that the people who have such a problem with Bon Jovi are critics, wannabe musicians, and people who are desperate to be "cool." True musicians always speak very highly of Bon Jovi.

They deserve to get in.

Posted by Jem on Tuesday, 01.3.12 @ 05:40am


Jem, your first paragraph was very good, but in your second paragraph you went a bit overboard. There is no need to speculate on any allegedly "negative" characteristics of those who might be opposed to Bon Jovi's induction. Furthermore, the "they (the critics) don't like (Insert band/artist) because they're (the critics are) failed musicians and are jealous, etc" statement is a standard ad hominem used predominantly by fans and essentially negates any potential for a rational argument.

Posted by Tahvo Parvianen on Tuesday, 01.3.12 @ 06:06am


They probably do deserve in but there are bigger snubs.

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 01.3.12 @ 07:58am


Sam - I didn't mention Motorhead because as I see it, they stand completely on their own and their HoF induction should be a no brainer. If Leonard Cohen is in, so should Motorhead. And being from NYC, Anthrax is gold in my book.

Jem - I do not mean to be disrespectful to BJ fans as a whole or to put the band down. They are one of the biggest selling bands of the last 30 years and I am sure that they caused many a teenage boy to pick up a guitar for the first time. I am also of the opinion that sales should account for something with both the nominating committee's and then voting group.

That being said, the way this HoF works right now, sales doesn't have any say in the process. Although, to be honest, I have no idea what some of them are thinking. You named quite a few bands who you claim wee influenced by BJ - do you have an actual stated link to this? I have read and heard reports of some of the bands you mentioned talking about their influences; All-American Rejects, Daughtery, etc and have never heard them mention BJ. I have heard them mention Def Leppard.

My point is this - Bon Jovi is a guitar driven pop/rock hybrid band who understood the importance of "hooks" in their songs. This is something that musicians have done for years dating back to the beginning of Rock and Roll. As the 70's progressed, a lot of the hard rock moved away from that simple verse (hook), chorus (hook), lead break (hook). It was not Bon Jovi who reintroduced it. It was Def leppard. I would dare say that Bon Jovi is the perfect hybrid of Bruce Springsteen and Def Leppard.

BJ at its prime was SWW and then followed it up with New Jersey. They did not grow from one to the next and if you were to just use sales as a book mark, you would see this to be true. New jersey was a terrible album. Def Leppard released what many claim to be one of the most essential 80's albums in Pyromania. Their follow up, Hysteria, saw a change and progression and watched it almost double Pyromania in sales. And that was with a 4 year hiatus due to all the RnR trappings that the band found themselves in.

One day, BJ will be inducted, I am sure. But if this induction were to be before any of the bands I had listed in my earlier comment, then that would be a travesty and black mark on the 80's genre of Hard Rock.

As Def Leppard said, "I have no reason to be cool." The truth is, that ability expired on old folks like me by the mid 90's.

Jem - enjoy Bon Jovi - they many not be important to me; but they are important to you and that I can respect.

Posted by Dameon on Tuesday, 01.3.12 @ 15:52pm


If GNR is a "first ballot" inductee despite paint by numbers music (albeit very commercially successful music), what is the rationale again in keeping Bon Jovi out. Personally I not fan, but then again I don't much of GNR either.

Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 01.12.12 @ 23:34pm


The editor version:) (sleep deprivation)-

If GNR is a "first ballot" inductee despite paint by numbers music (albeit very commercially successful music), what is the rationale again in keeping Bon Jovi out? Personally I am not a fan, but then again I don't think much of GNR either.

Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 01.12.12 @ 23:37pm


Astrodog,
While I am not necessarily a GnR fan, I would hardly consider anything they did after 'Appetite' to be paint by numbers rock. Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 were two varied, wildly unpredictable albums.

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Posted by disc on Sunday, 02.12.12 @ 23:29pm


you know im ashamed at who owns the ballots and who decides they said bon jovi 2012 inductee yet he's not gonna be inducted WHY they been long overdue stop holding them back same with Kiss and Def Leppard anyhow joan jett was due for 2012 along with j geils wth man. bon jovi should be inducted i smell a conspiracy

Posted by DefleppardFan2012 on Wednesday, 03.14.12 @ 17:20pm


Seeing that GNR was a first ballot entry pisses me off. They were a hair band. They had a whiney sound w/ some nice guitar by Slash. I love some of their songs but seeing Bon Jovi on the outside and GNR in really makes me wonder WTF are the voters thinking. Axl can't sing sh** now and barely could sing then. The criteria to get in to the Hall is all about originality but that needs to change. Being original doesn't always mean you were the best.

Posted by Eric on Sunday, 06.10.12 @ 01:11am


Let Haters Hate..hate makes anything bad.
Bon jovi is loved worldwide for 30 years!!
he needs to be in it!!

Posted by Medz on Monday, 06.18.12 @ 16:58pm


Jon Bon Jovi may be a swell guy. The band is obviously popular and has been for a long time. No disrespect to their (mostly female) fanbase, Bon Jovi are not rock and roll immortals. They have more criteria against rather than for induction. This is simple real truth.
Bon Jovi is not an all time great band or artist.

Posted by The Real Truth on Friday, 12.28.12 @ 00:32am


If they get in does Jon invite with them up on stage all the songwriters who have provided the hits for them?

Please.


JJM

Posted by Jim on Friday, 02.1.13 @ 13:59pm


I think they should be in, 100%, BUT, there are others that need to get in before them.

Their album sales and popularity over 30 years are almost second to none.

They've got the 80's stadium rock thing from the 80's and early 90's going for them, their radio friendly stuff from all their releases, but what MOST wanna be know it alls overlook is their songwriting has improved over the years. Most people with an opinion are only really familiar with the first 4 albums and what they hear on the radio......when what really makes this band shine are tracks like dry county, last man standing, something to believe in, my guitar lies bleeding in my arms, brokenpromiseland, when we were beautiful, and so on....most of which very few who voice their "opinion" have actually heard.

Like I said, there are many that should get in first, but Bon jovi should certainly get in.

Posted by Tom on Saturday, 02.16.13 @ 00:44am


I can't believe you have snubbed Bon Jovi. They are the most influential bands of all time. Jon himself is the biggest humanitarian. They have been going strong for the last 30 years. INDUCT, INDUCT,

Posted by Cathy on Friday, 03.1.13 @ 21:31pm


"the most influential bands of all time"
"Jon himself is the biggest humanitarian"

Posted by GFW on Saturday, 03.2.13 @ 08:57am


Bon Jovi should be in no question, unless your criteria are not based in facts and you are on a soapbox about "80s hair bands" or "chick bands". Many others posted about influence or not, which is not a criterion alone. You could be influential and have had few hits, does that make you a HOFer? I don't think so. The facts are these.....many hits, many CDs/albums/longevity with enormous success, larges sales. I would add that anyone who knows music cannot deny the talent in the band. To me that is often what is missing from these types of discussions. Too many talented people don't get breaks or become famous and here we have a band that had it all. So, get off your soapboxes, it isn't about what music you like or don't like nor whether you like the band members, it is about their abilities even more so. Bon Jovi is often very hard to copy because of his vocal range and the guitar playing as well.

Posted by Bob on Tuesday, 05.14.13 @ 09:50am


Well, Jon Bon Jovi's singing is pretty awful, he couldn't even do the chorus of "living on a prayer" live. Richie's guitar skill is average. Most of their songs sound the same. I understand that they have commercial success, but in terms of music they didn't contribute much. Compare them to bands that have already been inducted such as Queen, Led Zeppelin, R.E.M, U2, The Who, Pink Floyd, Lynyrd Skynyrd etc. I just don't see how Bon Jovi can compare to any of the bands above.

Posted by Lee on Thursday, 09.5.13 @ 02:29am


Well, Jon Bon Jovi's singing is pretty awful, he couldn't even do the chorus of "living on a prayer" live. Richie's guitar skill is average. Most of their songs sound the same. I understand that they have commercial success, but in terms of music they didn't contribute much. Compare them to bands that have already been inducted such as Queen, Led Zeppelin, R.E.M, U2, The Who, Pink Floyd, Lynyrd Skynyrd etc. I just don't see how Bon Jovi can compare to any of the bands above.

Posted by Lee on Thursday, 09.5.13 @ 02:34am


"Countless bands have proudly listed Bon Jovi as one of their main influences. You want examples? Nickelback, Daughtry, Train, The Goo-Goo Dolls, Shinedown, Every Avenue, My Chemical Romance, Kid Rock, The All-American Rejects, Hinder, All Time Low, Big & Rich, OneRepublic, and many, many others."

I lol'd.

Shinedown, Nickelback, Daughtry, Hinder, OneRepublic?????????????????????????

I lol'd.

That's like a who's who of generic jock rock.

Posted by TO on Friday, 11.1.13 @ 11:27am


I'd say let Bon Jovi in. Rock and roll was made for fans, and for audiences, and not exclusively for musicians. I think it is curious that any musician with a largely female fan base isn't considered "rock and roll" or is snubbed on "artistic merits" -- so no Journey, no Bon Jovi, no Chicago. Elitist nonsense, and hipster pretension. Bon Jovi deserves to be in the hall.

Posted by PopeCharming on Monday, 11.11.13 @ 02:02am


Have you seen how little alternative stuff is in the hall? I wish it were more hipster!

Posted by GFW on Monday, 11.11.13 @ 11:20am


I can't take any post by anybody seriously if it uses the vague, cliche, lazy, crutch word "hipter".

That post read to me as 'Bon Jovi blah, blah, blah, blah, elitist, ignore my whole post, I'm not even trying, blah, blah, blah.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 11.11.13 @ 17:34pm


Bon Jovi is one step above teenybopper rock.

Posted by D. Stroy on Thursday, 01.23.14 @ 12:19pm


Bon Jovi might be nominated in the 2015 or 2016 year. They had a supersmash CD Slippery When Wet yielding Classics Wanted Dead or Alive,Livin' On A Prayer,& You Give Love A Bad Name.

For a time during the Slippery When Wet tour,they were the hottest band in the rock/metal scene & the New Jersey CD was a solid follow up with the hit Bad Medicine.They have sold over 100 million CD's worldwide & crossed over with success among all kinds of fans:Black,white,old,young,rich,poor etc.

Bon Jovi suffers from some of the same problems as Duran Duran & Def Leppard does:That they were good looking guys who benefited from this & their music was good but not great. All of these bands have survived over 30 years & continue to make music & tour.

I can't think of many bands who are eligible that deserve induction more than Bon Jovi. Hits,Popularity,Longevity,Success.

Posted by KING on Sunday, 02.2.14 @ 15:44pm


I think Bon Jovi suffers because they put out horrendous, watered down RnR. In fact, they pretty much ripped Def Leppard's formula off.

Def Leppard - Yes

BJ - no

Duran Duran - a guilty pleasure for sure

Posted by Dameon on Friday, 02.7.14 @ 12:34pm


yes I am posting again. Especially in response to the comment about Jon's vocals. Have you tried to sing "Livin on a Prayer"? I have seen many bands try to copy it and in its original key it is almost impossible. If Jon did not hit it when you saw him, does that mean he can't or never did? I know many people who have seen them and he hits it. As he continues to get older he will not be able to, just like anyone else. So, based upon that one experience you somehow magically come up with "his vocals are awful"? My point is, you are stating something idiotic and furthermore just wrong. His vocals are extremely difficult to copy and I am not sure how you don't know that. It is because of his range and control. There is very good talent in the band. By the way, if Sambora is average, which I am not sure I agree with, then many others in the Hall shouldn't be there either and there are many others who should. The Hall is not exactly loaded with all the best guitar players, especially considering that the best guitarists in terms of technical skill are in classical and jazz, not rock. Any jazz guitarists, even those in high school or the local community college music programs can copy most if not all rock guitarist riffs...it isn't rocket science...just a lot of tricks, sound effects and speed....often without the ability to play things cleanly.

Posted by Bob on Sunday, 03.9.14 @ 12:50pm


Bon Jovi has rocked us all,over and over again! I must say, it has been sweeeeeeet! They have earned their spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Steven Tyler, man, help us out here!!!!
From a speech pathologist who loves rock and roll more than speech therapy!!
Lita

Posted by Lita on Tuesday, 06.10.14 @ 22:11pm


I don't like them, but eventually, they should get in, the whole band.

Posted by BulmaPunkRocker on Sunday, 07.6.14 @ 22:33pm


there's a lot of band older than bon jovi but never be competed the distance of records sell out, concert tickets sell out for the past 30 yrs, if there is any band or group can make a big hit but there are just few yrs spent there time to do that, unlike bon jovi can make it really good for such a long long time, imagine 30 yrs,can any band can compete any genre of music as what bon jovi did for last 30 yrs? i dont think so.

Posted by engilbert S. Atay on Friday, 08.1.14 @ 23:56pm


Are you people high? We are talking about one of the worst bands in the history of music and you want a talentless band as Bon Jovi to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Thank God they haven't been considered. A band that started a tidal wave of hair bands that practically destroyed music until thankfully was saved by the entrance of Nirvana, Sonic Youth and Alice in Chains. Inducting Bon Jovi or Def Leppard would be like deciding to induct Wham or The Backstreet Boys. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR GARBAGE LIKE BON JOVI AND DEF LEPPARD AS WELL AS THE BANDS THAT UNFORTUNATELY FOLLOWED IN THEIR TALENTLESS SHOES! NEXT THING YOU PEOPLE WILL ASK THE HALL TO INDUCT MOTLEY CRUE OR POISON. BON JOVI BELONGS IN THE HALL OF HAIR BANDS. NOT THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. THEY ARE NOT RUSH OR METALLICA WHO ACTUALLY EARNED THEIR PLACE IN THE HALL. THEY ARE LEGENDARY AND EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO MUSIC. NO BON JOVI IN THE HALL! !!!

Posted by Michele on Sunday, 02.1.15 @ 18:10pm


I'm going to defend a band that I actively dislike here. Regardless of how much I dislike Bon Jovi's music, they've had wayyyyyy too much success to ignore.

US:
17 top 40 songs
10 top 10 songs
4 #1 songs

Slippery When Wet - 12x platinum
New Jersey - 7x platinum

Still doing $100 million tours.

I don't like them, I don't have to. Clearly many many people love this band and their music. Any HOF should have a spot for the most successful artists alongside the innovators.

Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 02.2.15 @ 12:02pm


Bon Jovi should have a song written about them called
"You Give Rock A Bad Name!"

Posted by Phuk Yu on Monday, 02.9.15 @ 03:41am


I'm praying they put them in for induction for 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Otis Mack on Friday, 04.24.15 @ 23:13pm


I think Bon Jovi will be nominated in 2016. They really energized the rock/metal scene 1986 Slippery When Wet blazed on the scene. Nobody can deny the strength of Livin On A Prayer,You Give Love A Bad Name, Wanted Dead or Alive etc. Bad Medicine was a solid song on the strong follow-up New Jersey. It gets down to influence and innovation...Were they strong in these areas? Some posters brought up the acoustic Wanted Dead or Alive award show helped bring about the Unplugged Series. Don't know about Bon Jovi & that much innovation.They played straight up hard rock/metal early & drifted to more pop sound and soft rock. Bon Jovi will be elected on their totality of work and Bon Jovi's great songwriting talent especially his great vocals The first two albums were excellent that tips the balance. KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 05.3.15 @ 01:17am


Just went to the hall this week for the 1st time. BonJovi not being in there is ridiculous! Jon is the ultimate performer, writer and is a true story teller. They have sold more concert tickets than any other group ever! We need to unite to do something about this huge wrong doing. As fans we must pull together. I wonder if his political views or battles against the record companies are playing a role here? They are too good and have accomplished so much to not be voted in is a crime.

Posted by Rich on Sunday, 06.21.15 @ 14:02pm


Richie Sambora Songs With Lyrics By Bernie Taupin

01. 2012 - Weathering The Storm
02. 2013 - Engine 19

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 01.14.16 @ 15:30pm


Bon Jovi is a sure fire 2016 Nominee and possible Inductee. The Deep Purple Induction breaks the logjam for the hard rock and heavy metal slots. Bon Jovi & Judas Priest could be Nominees from this Genre. Jon Bon Jovi has crossed into this Legend category that few musicians reach. Bono, the late David Bowie & Michael Jackson, Bruce, Madonna, Prince,Sting,Dylan to name a few. Classic Songs Livin' On A Prayer, Wanted Dead Or Alive, You Give Love A Bad Name should help put Bon Jovi over the top. Sorry to hear about Glenn Frey's passing. I'm glad that The Eagles were inducted to RRHOF years ago and he lived long enough to see how loved Eagles were and revered by their fans. I guess Don Henley will honor his friend Mr. Frey with some stripped down acoustic shows at some smaller venues down the road. RIP GLENN FREY KING

Posted by KING on Wednesday, 01.20.16 @ 21:49pm


Bon Jovi is the most over rated band in music history!! They are the equivalent of a "wedding band"! John Bon Jovi and his melodramatic vocals is a mediocre singer at best. One of the worst song writers ever! Richie Sambora is decent guitar player but nothing special. If not for MTV exploiting their effeminate looks and exploits they would be playing the local bowling alley on weekends. They belong with the Partridge family, The Osmond brothers, and the Back street Boys. Once those bands are in the HOF, Bon Jovi has my vote.

Posted by Tom NJ on Thursday, 05.5.16 @ 13:35pm


bon jovi wont kiss knowbodys ass.includeing the writers of the rolling stone mag.thats why they are not in yet.its ok though they are in the uk hall of fame which is a whole lot more legit than the us hall of fame.

Posted by gene sensing on Thursday, 10.6.16 @ 18:18pm


I'm hoping Bon Jovi receives another nomination and induction in a few years. They were a force during the Slippery When Wet and New Jersey albums. Bruce & Bon Jovi really put New Jersey on the map as they became famous musicians. I'd like to see Def Leppard, Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,and Megadeth inducted first. Metallica's Black Album put Metallica over the top for RRHOF although Megadeth had a more consistent output. Slippery When Wet like Metallica's Black Album and Appetite For Destruction GNR were classic albums that helped the rock metal bands receive more respect and chances for signing and discovery. KING

Posted by KING on Friday, 03.10.17 @ 20:01pm


In past years, I have been and avid consumer of all that is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I've brought groups of people to the Hall to admire and honor all that is Rock and Roll. This f*ing snub to Bon Jovi is getting old. 30+ years of rock and roll and hit after hit after hit; this band has influenced thousands of musicians! This band has challenged and altered the landscape of rock and roll. This band continues to evolve and pump out rock and roll year after year after year. Come on induction committee, put your big girl and boy pants on and get over whatever personal vendetta you have against Bon Jovi. It is glaringly apparent and you should be absolutely embarrassed by your juvenile behavior. Bring some professionalism to the table!! You have lost this supporter. The next time I will be visiting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is when Bon Jovi is admitted. Until then have a nice day.

Posted by Carole Touchinski on Sunday, 04.9.17 @ 06:09am


He deserves to be in the rock hall of fame for his inspiration towards many people I am Hunter Lee Dulaney at the age of 13

Posted by KingCamo on Tuesday, 04.25.17 @ 12:15pm


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