Bobby Byrd

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FINALLY, FAMOUS FLAMES founder BOBBY BYRD, the man who discovered JAMES BROWN , F I N A L L Y gets his OWN SITE !!! THANK YOU, FUTURE ROCK LEGENDS !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 06.17.10 @ 20:48pm


Let BOBBY receieve in death, the credit he never got in life ....because JAMES took all the glory...and all the MONEY !!! induct BOBBY BYRD and THE FAMOUS FLAMES into the Hall !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 04.6.11 @ 15:05pm


I would rather see THE FAMOUS FLAMES get inducted as a GROUP than only Bobby inducted....but, if that's not possible, then yes...Bobby surely deserves induction as a sideman, if for no other reason than the fact that HE WAS THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED JAMES BROWN...that ALONE should get him recognized.And , since THE FAMOUS FLAMES was originally BOBBY'S group in the FIRST PLACE (before James took over leadership of them), then YES, Bobby's singing, songwriting,musicianship, and importance as one of the unsung pioneers of Funk, definitely qualifies him for RRHOF induction. James Brown shouldn't have been the ONLY person in this group that should have recieved RRHOF recognition .In the motion picture/DVD release The T A M I Show, Bobby is with The other Famous Flames,(bobby Bennett and Lloyd Stallworth), standing right next to James Brown , in that devastating performance where the group upstaged The Rolling Stones. That performance has been called by music critics and historians "The single greatest Rock and Roll performance ever captured on film" Bobby and The Flames were part of that , and they should be inducted.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nybY647F0

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.13.11 @ 04:26am


After The Famous Flames diabanded in 1968, Bobby remained with James... that is HIS VOICE you hear (sadly uncredited),with James on hits such as SEX MACHINE, SOUL POWER, MAKE IT FUNKY, GET ON UP, GET INTO IT, GET INVOLVED,Bobby has ALWAYS BEEN THERE,it's just that never got the recognition...and the CREDIT,that James Brown got.He also had his own string of hits...like I KNOW YOU GOT SOUL,I NEED HELP (I Can't Do It Alone),I FOUND OUT, HOW YOU GONNA GET RESPECT, YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND, FUNKY SOUL, and more. Yes to Bobby !!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2bz6Msyo3w

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 07.13.11 @ 04:40am


If The FLAMES don't get in , at least the late great BOBBY BYRD should get in as a sideman. As the man who actually DISCOVERED James Brown, and co- wrote many of James' hits , as well as singing with him on many more (after The Flames disbanded) , like SEX MACHINE , SOUL POWER, MAKE IT FUNKY, GET INVOLVED, and others , as well as playing keyboards in the band ,and recording his own solo hits apart from James,like I KNOW YOU GOT SOUL, Bobby certainly deserves to make it in. But, I'd really rather see THE FAMOUS FLAMES get in as a GROUP. (By the way, The Famous Flames also appeared with Brown in the Frankie Avalon movie "SKI PARTY" in 1965).

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 07.28.11 @ 08:31am


Bobby just got inducted as a member of THE FAMOUS FLAMES, so the chances of him getting inducted solo are now unlikely. But since he had his own self-written solo hits, like "I KNOW YOU GOT SOUL","I NEED HELP (I CANT DO IT ALONE)"."YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND", "I'M NOT TO BLAME" "WE'RE IN LOVE", "BACK FROM THE DEAD","HANG-UPS WE DON'T NEED", and others ,plus his invaluable contributions to the JB's after the Flames disbanded,plus the fact the he was the man who DISCOVERED James Brown, he probably deserves to be.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 02.11.12 @ 14:02pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajzpd-ONOdo

Here is Famous Flames founder Bobby Byrd with James Brown singing the smash hit "SEX MACHINE" on The Mike Douglas Show in 1970...one of several duet hits the two made together after The Flames disbanded.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 02.11.12 @ 14:12pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb5XpM2Tzvg

Here are JAMES BROWN and THE FAMOUS FLAMES singing "PRISONER OF LOVE" on the T.A.M.I. SHOW (1964) BOBBY BYRD is on the far right, closest to James.

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 02.11.12 @ 14:31pm


Bobby just got inducted as a member of THE FAMOUS FLAMES, so the chances of him getting inducted solo are now unlikely. But since he had his own self-written solo hits, like "I KNOW YOU GOT SOUL","I NEED HELP (I CANT DO IT ALONE)"."YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND", "I'M NOT TO BLAME" "WE'RE IN LOVE", "BACK FROM THE DEAD","HANG-UPS WE DON'T NEED", and others ,plus his invaluable contributions to the JB's after the Flames disbanded,plus the fact the he was the man who DISCOVERED James Brown, he probably deserves to be.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 02.28.12 @ 16:57pm


Bobby just got inducted as a member of THE FAMOUS FLAMES, so the chances of him getting inducted solo are now unlikely. But since he had his own self-written solo hits, like "I KNOW YOU GOT SOUL","I NEED HELP (I CANT DO IT ALONE)"."YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND", "I'M NOT TO BLAME" "WE'RE IN LOVE", "BACK FROM THE DEAD","HANG-UPS WE DON'T NEED", and others ,plus his invaluable contributions to the JB's after the Flames disbanded,plus the fact the he was the man who DISCOVERED James Brown,in the FIRST place, he probably deserves to be.I don't rule him out in the future, as he could become a member of THE CLYDE McPHATTER CLUB with a second induction as a sideman, or as a member of THE JAMES BROWN BAND or The JB's

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 03.5.12 @ 22:40pm


"Not in the Hall of Fame"

...OH YES HE IS..with The FAMOUS FLAMES (2012)

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05.22.12 @ 02:06am


****BOBBY BYRD 1934-2007****

Bobby just got inducted as a member of THE FAMOUS FLAMES, so the chances of him getting inducted solo are now unlikely.

But since he had his own self-written solo hits, like "I KNOW YOU GOT SOUL","I NEED HELP (I CANT DO IT ALONE)"."YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND", "I'M NOT TO BLAME" "WE'RE IN LOVE", "BACK FROM THE DEAD","HANG-UPS WE DON'T NEED", and others ,plus his invaluable contributions to the JB's after the Flames disbanded,plus the fact the he was the man who DISCOVERED James Brown,in the FIRST place, he probably deserves to be.I don't rule him out in the future, as he could become a member of THE CLYDE McPHATTER CLUB with a second induction as a sideman, or as a member of The JB's

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 08.20.12 @ 12:15pm


Bobby just got inducted as a member of THE FAMOUS FLAMES, so the chances of him getting inducted solo are now unlikely.

But since he had his own self-written solo hits, like "I KNOW YOU GOT SOUL","I NEED HELP (I CANT DO IT ALONE)"."YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND", "I'M NOT TO BLAME" "WE'RE IN LOVE", "BACK FROM THE DEAD","HANG-UPS WE DON'T NEED", and others ,plus his invaluable contributions to the JB's after the Flames disbanded,plus the fact the he was the man who DISCOVERED James Brown,in the FIRST place, he probably deserves to be.I don't rule him out in the future, as he could become a member of THE CLYDE McPHATTER CLUB with a second induction as a sideman, or as a member of The JB's.

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 12.7.12 @ 14:21pm


Inducted with The Famous Flames. Should also go in solo. Bobby was one of the unsung pioneers of Funk. Much of the credit that goes to James Brown should have gone to Bobby,because he wrote many of the songs that were credited solely to Brown.Singer,songwriter, arranger,bandleader,talent scout...Bobby did it ALL. Every time that Bobby left, James always requested that he come back. Once Bobby left for good, James' career went into a freefall from which it never recovered...

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 04.13.13 @ 19:57pm


****BOBBY BYRD****

Already inducted as a main performer with The Famous Flames . Could go in again later, solo, or in the "Musical Excellence" category with The J.B.'s .

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 07.9.13 @ 15:28pm


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelsan_Ellis

In the upcoming James Brown bioflick, "Get On Up", 2012 Rock Hall Inductee and Famous Flames founder BOBBY BYRD will be played by actor Nelsan Ellis. This film will be in theatres on 8/1/14 .

Posted by Bill G on Monday, 02.24.14 @ 14:47pm


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Byrd

Robert Howard Byrd (August 15, 1934 September 12, 2007), better known as Bobby Byrd, was an American R&B/soul singer, songwriter, bandleader, talent scout, record producer, and musician, who played an integral and important part in the development of soul and funk music in association with James Brown. Byrd began his career in 1952 as member of the gospel group the Gospel Starlighters, who later changed their name to the Avons in 1953 and the Five Royals in 1954, before settling with the name the Flames in 1955 prior to Brown joining the group with their agent later changing it to The Famous Flames. Byrd was the actual founder of The Flames, and is the man credited with the discovery of James Brown. As one of the longest-serving members of the group, he was inducted to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame posthumously in 2012. Byrd was also a 1998 recipient of the Rhythm and Blues Foundation's Pioneer Award. Throughout, Byrd helped to inspire the musical aspirations of James Brown, who launched his career with Byrd.

Byrd was born in Toccoa, Georgia to a religiously devout family, where they were respected members of the church congregation and active in their neighborhood there.[1] Byrd started being active in his local church choir with the group, the Zioneers, later making a name for himself as member of the Gospel Starlighters, which included his sister Sarah. At a time when church elders disapproved of secular singing, the band members would leave state and perform in South Carolina as the R&B group the Avons, eventually they left gospel behind and went on as the Avons. The original group consisted of Byrd, who played piano, organ and sung lead vocals; and Nafloyd Scott, Fred Pulliam and Doyle Oglesby.

Meeting James Brown and the formation of The Famous Flames

In 1952 Bobby Byrd was playing baseball against the inmates of the Alto Reformatory prison team and met James Brown who was serving time there on armed robbery charges. Byrd befriended him and arranged for Byrd's family to oversee Brown's parole.[2] It began a personal and professional association that lasted until 1973 and although Byrd had twenty years plus as a solo performer it is his association with Brown for which he is chiefly remembered. Contrary to belief, the group had already changed its name to the Flames when Brown, who had brief careers as a boxer and a player in a semi-professional baseball team after his parole, asked Byrd for a spot in the group, with Brown first settling as a drummer. Eventually Brown was driven to perform as lead singer as he felt lead vocalists got more attention from women. Byrd recognized early that Brown was unique and that it would be impossible to control him: "I didn't need him in competition, I needed him with me, that's why I worked so hard to get him over to my group.".[3] In 1956, Clint Brantley signed on as the group's manager. With Johnny Terry and Nash Knox on board, the group became "The Famous Flames" under Brantley's suggestion and won them a deal with Ralph Bass' Federal label, which was a subsidiary of Syd Nathan's King label, in February 1956. Their first record, "Please, Please, Please", which Byrd said he wrote with Johnny Terry, featured a lead vocal by James Brown and was issued with the billing, "James Brown and the Famous Flames", which did not go well with the rest of the group. After three sessions, the original Flames broke up. At the final session Byrd and Brown wrote the rhythm and blues dancer "Can't Be the Same," which was one of many collaborations with Brown for which Byrd failed to gain credit.

The Flames without Brown changed their name to Byrd's Drops of Joy but found the going tough so that when Brown approached them to reform the Flames they agreed. The power within the group was now with James Brown. At this point The Famous Flames became a straight vocal group, since Brown had began to employ the old J.C. Davis outfit as his road band. Original Flames members Bobby Byrd and Johnny Terry returned, and new Flames members Bobby Bennett and Baby Lloyd Stallworth were added. Along with Brown, these four men comprised the longest-lasting lineup of The Famous Flames. Original Flames guitarist Nafloyd Scott also returned and was added to the band.The rest of the original Flames faded into obscurity.
With this lineup the group would have a series of hits between 1959 and 1964 and participated on many of the albums that helped to bring R&B to a crossover audience, including the landmark million-selling 1963 live album, Live at the Apollo. Byrd and the Famous Flames also appeared together on a couple of appearances on The Ed Sullivan Show, made a brief appearance in the film, Ski Party and upstaged headliners The Rolling Stones on the landmark 1964 rock concert/motion picture, The T.A.M.I. Show. Byrd (and fellow Famous Flame Lloyd Stallworth) was credited as a songwriter on the Flames hit, "Lost Someone", though Brown was the only member who sung on the recording. Its success led Brown to record more songs on his own but the majority of his early hits were as a member of the Famous Flames including songs such as "Try Me", "I'll Go Crazy", "Bewildered", Think " , Baby, You're Right", "I Don't Mind", "Shout and Shimmy", and "Oh Baby, Don't You Weep". As was the case with some recordings, the Famous Flames were often not credited on album covers though ironically enough on recordings in which Brown appeared by himself, the group was credited, leaving fans to erroneously believe the Famous Flames was actually Brown's backing band, instead of the singing group that they actually were. The group continued performing together until 1968 when they left over monetary issues. The last Flames-associated recording to be released was the pre-funk soul hit, "Licking Stick - Licking Stick", which Byrd contributed vocals to, without the other members, who had departed before Byrd did that summer.

Solo career and continual work with Brown

After two years away, Byrd reunited with Brown in 1970, hiring Bootsy Collins and his brother Catfish and their band to fill in for Brown's former band after they left him before a gig with Byrd hiring them on the spot without rehearsal. After that performance, Byrd and Brown brought the band to a studio session where they recorded the seminal funk hit, "Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine" to which Brown and Byrd shared lead vocals and co-wrote, though the recording was issued as a James Brown solo recording.
When the Famous Flames were still together, Byrd and Brown co-formed the production company, Fair Deal, to distribute the Famous Flames recordings and Brown's own solo recordings to mainstream markets after years solely on the rhythm and blues circuit. This led to both Byrd and Brown signing solo deals with Smash Records. In 1964, Byrd recorded his first solo hit, "Baby, Baby, Baby" with Anna King. A year later he had a bigger R&B hit with "We Are in Love", which reached #14. Later in the late 1960s, as Byrd and Brown together began working under the yet-named genre of funk, Byrd had a hit with "I Need Help (I Can't Do It Alone)", a refrain later repeated in some of Brown's later hits.
In 1971, when Brown signed with Polydor Records, he and Byrd formed the label, People issuing several records by other artists, including Byrd himself, who recorded the funk hit, "I Know You Got Soul". Byrd appeared onstage with Brown from 1970 until leaving his band again in 1973 due to a combination of issues including uncredited compositions on some Brown hits, Brown's issues with singer Vicki Anderson, with whom Byrd eventually married and remained so until his death, and wanting to start a family with Anderson. Though he remained in good contact with Brown following this final split, this ended Byrd's 21-year professional association with Brown, who had now gone by the nickname, "Godfather of Soul" after composing the soundtrack to the film, Black Caesar. Without Byrd's help, however, Brown began struggling with production of the music on People and soon went into financial troubles and without Byrd's help, his own recording success started dwindling as Brown's other group-mates left for better opportunities.

In 1993, Byrd recorded a solo album, On the Move on the German record Label, Soulciety Records. After a few more live performances into 1996, Byrd decided to retire though he occasionally re-emerged sometimes by the assistance of Brown: following his parole from drug and weapons charges in 1991, Brown hired Byrd to join him on stage for his pay-per-view 1992 concert. Byrd would occasionally perform for Brown in some venues. At his funeral in December 2006, Byrd sung "Sex Machine" with Brown's other band mates paying homage to his late estranged friend and former performing partner.
In 2003, a few years prior to his death, Bobby, his wife Vicki, and Famous Flames Bobby Bennett and Lloyd Stallworth, sued lead singer James Brown and Universal Music for non-payment of royalties stating that monies that rightfully belong to them for Byrd's hit "I Know You Got Soul", which was sampled by numerous rappers, including Eric B. & Rakim, were sent by Universal to James Brown instead, who allegedly subsequently kept them.[4][5] The suit was dismissed to the statute of limitations having run out. However, rapper Jay-Z, who sampled Byrd's song "I'm Not to Blame" for his recording, "You Don't Know", off his 2001 multi million-selling The Blueprint, paid Byrd 65% of the royalties for the song, allowing Byrd and his family to secure a mortgage for their home, which was worth about $250,000.

Personal life[edit]

After splitting from Brown in 1973, Byrd and Vicki Anderson, who left Brown's band at the same time as Byrd, married. Byrd raised Anderson's daughter Carleen. The couple remained married throughout Byrd's lifetime. Though he had moved to Cincinnati after the Famous Flames signed with Federal/King, Byrd retained residences in Georgia and after leaving Brown, settled at Loganville for the remainder of his life.

Death

On September 12, 2007, Byrd, 73, died from complications of cancer in Loganville.

Legacy

Numerous songs in rap music over the years used Byrd-associated songs such as "I Know You Got Soul", "Think About It" (his screaming voice in the song he's the one saying "yeah!" followed by Brown's "woo!" and his words in the song "you bet it ain't" were sampled), "Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine", "Soul Power", "Make It Funky" and "I'm Not to Blame" amongst others. Byrd's music has had a lasting influence on numerous soul, R&B, rap, and hip-hop artists.
For years following his departure from Brown, several history revisionists[who?] have sometimes neglected to mention Byrd's impact in Brown's career even suggesting that Brown had started out as a solo artist when the record, "Please, Please, Please" was released in 1956 but in truth, it was actually a recording by the Famous Flames. It was, in fact, Bobby Byrd and The Famous Flames that launched Brown's career, not the other way around. In fact, the majority of Brown's early recordings between 1956 and 1964 were not solo recordings, but as a member of the Famous Flames, which made Brown's 1986 SOLO induction to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame controversial, as his first official solo recording was the cover of the instrumental R&B standard, "Night Train". Though the late 1961 recording, "Lost Someone", was sung by Brown alone, the song was credited as a Famous Flames recording and featured Byrd and fellow member Lloyd Stallworth as co-writers, and Byrd also played organ on the recording.
In addition, claims made by uninformed individuals such as pop music writers and critics that the Famous Flames were a "band" or were backup musicians are also INCORRECT. The Famous Flames were a SINGING GROUP. The "band" was the James Brown Orchestra; a totally separate entity from The Famous Flames.
The early songs, most of which Byrd participated with the exception of "Try Me", featured Byrd and contributed a great deal to establishing his career before he finally became a full-fledged solo artist with the release of "Papa's Got a Brand New Bag" in 1965. Though Brown asserted himself as the full-fledged leader, he was still just a member of the Flames until that group left him in 1968. In addition, it was Byrd, who later saved Brown's career numerous times, starting with him returning to the Famous Flames at Brown's request after the group's initial breakup in 1957, helping him to coach the re-formed group, and also re-joining them at that point, and later hiring Bootsy and Phelps Collins to back Brown up in 1970 and co-produced the hit recording, "Sex Machine", later helping with other artists[who?] on People Records. In the Famous Flames' Rock & Roll Hall of Fame page, Byrd is regarded as "one of the more important auxiliary figures in the career of a major artist in music history."
In October 2004 Bobby Byrd's songs "I Know You Got Soul" and "Hot Pants" were featured on the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas soundtrack, playing on fictional radio station Master Sounds 98.3. In September 2005 his song "Try It Again" appeared on the soundtrack of Indigo Prophecy.

Induction to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and initial controversy

In 1986, the first committee of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame announced that Brown, the Famous Flames' lead singer, would be inducted among nine other legendary musicians. However, the committee failed to include the other original Famous Flames, including Byrd, Johnny Terry, Bobby Bennett and Lloyd Stallworth, leading to a controversy that lasted more than 25 years and puzzled longtime fans of the group. In late 2011, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame formed a special committee to discuss several pioneering groups who they felt deserved to be inducted that were not inducted with their front men. This committee's decision led to them automatically inducting the Famous Flames, including group founder Byrd, into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame without a need for nomination or voting, under the premise that they should have been inducted with Brown back in 1986, since, according to Rock Hall CEO Terry Stewart, Brown's first solo recording missed the 25-year criteria that was taken to induct performing musicians. Byrd, Stallworth (c. 2001) and Terry had long been deceased by this point and Bobby Bennett, the group's only surviving member, accepted the honor on behalf of the group.[10][11][12] Sadly,less than one year after The Famous Flames' induction, Bobby Bennett, the last of the Famous Flames, died on January 18, 2013.[13] Bobby Byrd, founder of The Famous Flames, died on September 12, 2007 of cancer at the age of 73, 9 months after the death of Famous Flames lead singer James Brown.





Posted by Bill G on Monday, 02.24.14 @ 15:04pm


Why did you post the entire Wikipedia article about Byrd? I would think if people really wanted to read all of this they would, I don't know, look him up on Wikipedia?

Posted by dezmond on Monday, 02.24.14 @ 20:10pm


Well, Dez, the reason why I posted it is because of the fact that most people posting on this site DON'T use the link here to look up things on Wikipedia. (unless the article is of one of their favorites) .That is the only explanation for comments I've heard in the past couple of years, such as why do I think that artists like Ashford & Simpson, Barrett Strong, and Bobby Womack deserve induction ?
Why am I hearing this ? because not enough people actually DO look up the histories of these artists before making these statements . If they DID , we wouldn't see so many of these uninformed statements, questions, and comments.

Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 02.26.14 @ 16:06pm


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